Good economic news continues to pour in

UPDATE at 11:52: CNN adds a fourth important component to the good economic news:

“NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — New home construction got off to a strong start for the year, with housing starts and building permits rising in January on a monthly and annual basis — another sign that the U.S. housing market and broader economy are headed in the right direction.

The Census Bureau reported that housing starts rose to an annual rate of 699,000, up 1.5% from December. Compared to a year ago, housing starts were almost 10% higher.”

———————

Three stories, all from the AP, all reporting significantly improved economic performance:

“DETROIT — General Motors earned its largest profit ever in 2011, two years after it nearly collapsed into financial ruin.

Strong sales in the U.S. and China helped the 103-year-old carmaker turn a profit of $7.6 billion, beating its old record of $6.7 billion in 1997 during the pickup truck and SUV boom.”

And:

“WASHINGTON — U.S. factories boosted output last month and December ended up being their best month of growth in five years.

Strong auto sales and growing business investment in machinery and other equipment are keeping factories busy and helping the economy grow.

The Federal Reserve said Wednesday that manufacturing production increased 0.7 percent in January. And output soared 1.5 percent in December, according to an upward revision. That’s the biggest one-month gain since December 2006.”

And:

“WASHINGTON — The number of people seeking unemployment benefits fell to the lowest point in almost four years last week, the latest signal that the job market is steadily improving.

Weekly applications for unemployment benefits dropped 13,000 to a seasonally adjusted 348,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. It was the fourth drop in five weeks and the fewest number of claims since March 2008 — six months before Lehman Brothers collapsed and only a few months into the Great Recession.

The four-week average, which smooths out fluctuations in the weekly data, fell for the fifth straight week to 365,250. The average has fallen nearly 13 percent in the past year.

The consistent decline indicates that companies are laying off fewer workers, and hiring is likely picking up further. When applications drop consistently below 375,000, it usually signals that hiring is strong enough to lower the unemployment rate.

Jeremy Lawson, a senior economist at BNP Paribas, said the report points to solid hiring this month, similar to the average net gain of about 200,000 in the past three months.

“Most indicators are pointing in the same direction: a healthy job market,” Lawson said. The additional jobs will provide more income for consumers and support greater spending, an importance source of growth.

To review:

– GM — “Government Motors”, as its detractors like to call it — posts its highest profit ever.

– Manufacturing scores its biggest one-month jump since December 2006.

– Weekly jobless numbers fall to lowest in almost four years.

As always, it’s important to note that we still have a long way to go, with millions of our fellow Americans still wanting to work and still unable to find it. But a corner does seem to have been turned.

– Jay Bookman

1,164 comments Add your comment

Guy Incognito

February 16th, 2012
10:46 am

Sunshine and gumdrops for all…………..on me:-)

ZoSo

February 16th, 2012
10:47 am

One reason the unemployment rate has fallen for five straight months is that many people have stopped looking for work. The government counts people as unemployed only if they are actively looking for a job.

just to be fair and balanced

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

February 16th, 2012
10:47 am

Long way to go and it wont happen overnight but this is a step (two steps?) in the right direction.

TaxPayer

February 16th, 2012
10:51 am

One reason the unemployment rate has fallen for five straight months is that many people have stopped looking for work.

I’ve also heard that once people find work, especially work that is fulfilling financially and otherwise, they tend to quit looking too. That’s just a rumor though.

TaxPayer

February 16th, 2012
10:51 am

One reason the unemployment rate has fallen for five straight months is that many people have stopped looking for work.

I’ve also heard that once people find work, especially work that is fulfilling financially and otherwise, they tend to quit looking too. That’s just a rumor though.

TaxPayer

February 16th, 2012
10:52 am

Okay,

How’d I do that. I’m seeing double Jay.

getalife

February 16th, 2012
10:52 am

Keep em coming Jay :)

Good news defeats the cons.

ProgressivePeach

February 16th, 2012
10:54 am

It’s all Obama’s fault!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

February 16th, 2012
10:55 am

ZoSo — “One reason the unemployment rate has fallen for five straight months is that many people have stopped looking for work. The government counts people as unemployed only if they are actively looking for a job. just to be fair and balanced”

To be fair and balanced, you should also mention that the same thing happened for several years under President Bush, and yet y’all saw nothing whatsoever wrong with it.

Just to keep you fair and balanced.

stands for decibels

February 16th, 2012
10:55 am

Like Steve said @ 10.47.

Good news defeats the cons.

Why, how shrill. Also too this.

They BOTH suck

February 16th, 2012
10:57 am

Let’s see the post on how the employment number equation has been changed or manipulated………….

It is implied each time JB has a post on the economy / employment……….. yet not one of those who believe this has ever posted credible evidence
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

TaxPayer

February 16th, 2012
10:58 am

Republicans are not very happy about these things either and they’re ready to do whatever it takes to “fix” it.

F. Sinkwich

February 16th, 2012
10:58 am

“GM — “Government Motors”, as its detractors like to call it — posts its highest profit ever.”

Oh, good!

When do I get my $14 billion back?

Also, can I stop paying $7,500 to every doofus that buys a POS Volt?

Thanks.

ZoSo

February 16th, 2012
10:59 am

Joe, it’s called perspective. And what is with this ya’ll?

getalife

February 16th, 2012
10:59 am

Poor filky.

Good news makes him angry.

Peadawg

February 16th, 2012
10:59 am

“The number of people seeking unemployment benefits fell to the lowest point in almost four years last week, the latest signal that the job market is steadily improving.”

How much does this have to do w/ people’s benefits running out/people stop seeking unemployment for whatever reason?

Other than that, good news.

They BOTH suck

February 16th, 2012
10:59 am

ZoSo

Has the way government tabulates unemployment, new people in or out of the workforce, etc changed since Obama took office or are the calculations still the same?

ZoSo

February 16th, 2012
11:01 am

Has the way government tabulates unemployment, new people in or out of the workforce, etc changed since Obama took office or are the calculations still the same?

not sure. anyone? anyone?

Road Scholar

February 16th, 2012
11:02 am

It can’t be! It just can’t be! President Obama couldn’t do it witout the Repubs stellar leadership! Now could he? Damn, we need to start another unfunded war! Kill Unions! No earmarks for anyone until these numbers turn around!

(ir)Rational

February 16th, 2012
11:02 am

I’ve heard they changed, but only in the fact that it was done at a state level and then combined before (?) and now is compiled at a national level and then calculated. But I could be way off on that.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

February 16th, 2012
11:03 am

Long way to go and it wont happen overnight but this is a step (two steps?) in the right direction.

Amen!!!! I’d rather have short steps in a solid recovery versus big steps on a bubble anyday.

Rebar

February 16th, 2012
11:03 am

The cons will come up with their same, lame tired and trite complaints; “people quit looking for work”, “these are only seasonal numbers”, “they’re manipulating the data” etc. I swear, the cons would rather see America fail rather than see President Obama reelected!

Jay

February 16th, 2012
11:03 am

Zoso, it has not changed.

Stronger Economy

February 16th, 2012
11:04 am

…..Things are looking brighter for the actions that President Obama chose to take…

Obama 2012

Fly-on-the-Wall

February 16th, 2012
11:04 am

But Obama is bad. He’s a Socialist-Marxist America hater.

Road Scholar

February 16th, 2012
11:04 am

Romney, during a campaign stop asked if there were any girlfriends in the crowd. His or Newt’s?

Aquagirl

February 16th, 2012
11:05 am

The government counts people as unemployed only if they are actively looking for a job. just to be fair and balanced

If you got input from anything besides Faux Newz, you’d realize the DOL counts people who have given up looking, they’re categorized as “discouraged” workers.

But don’t let reality, facts, or any of those other inconvenient things spoil your talking points. You seem happier playing with your imaginary hordes anyhow, probably because they never disagree with you.

Stonethrower

February 16th, 2012
11:08 am

Thanks goes to the GOP lead congress and those evil coporations sited below! Right Jim?

(ir)Rational

February 16th, 2012
11:09 am

Rebar – Ever thought that many people see those two things (Obama being re-elected and America failing) as a cause and effect thing? Not saying it would happen, but I do understand that many people see it that way. I’m not the sky is falling type, but I’m not sure we as a country can survive another 4 years of the divisiveness that has taken over the country. People don’t want to work together, don’t want to admit that anything the other side does is good. For me, it isn’t so much about whether the president is the right person to turn the economy around or not, but whether we can have someone who can truly unite the country again. I haven’t seen that person, but I’m looking, and hoping it isn’t too late.

ty webb

February 16th, 2012
11:09 am

so can we now reduce the number of weeks of unemployment benefits are paid out?

St Simons - we're on Island time

February 16th, 2012
11:09 am

only a hope-we-fail ‘merka-hatin terrrrist hatah would poopoo the
Great Obama Recovery over the Little Nero witha Cowboy Hat
Global Train Wreck.

This Obama fellow has got game.
Don’t be a playa hatah, cons.

Peadawg

February 16th, 2012
11:10 am

“I’ve also heard that once people find work, especially work that is fulfilling financially and otherwise, they tend to quit looking too. That’s just a rumor though.”

:lol:

Bazinga!

TDone

February 16th, 2012
11:11 am

The only reason why things are improving is that the Republicans were able to stifle some of the bovine skullduggery “Dear Leader” wanted to do.

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:11 am

Just imagine what would happen if Obama approved the Keystone pipeline. Unemployment would drop to zero as all those out of work flock to the Midwest for jobs, and gas would be free because there would be so much of it. :)

(ir)Rational

February 16th, 2012
11:13 am

Peadawg – Bazinga! Gotta love that show. :)

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:13 am

Taxpayer – “I’ve also heard that once people find work, especially work that is fulfilling financially and otherwise, they tend to quit looking too.”

I’ve heard that when they die, they are not counted as well.

TM

February 16th, 2012
11:13 am

It’s amazing how our economy improves when we have a divided goverment that does nothing.

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:14 am

That Black Guy: From downstairs

I do not believe I have sourced heritage or media matters lately, so I am not sure what you mean. The link I posted at 9:36 was something I wrote, which has BLS as a source. I created the graph you see from the numbers of BLS data, and my major point was that all metrics were declining. Is there a problem with that? If so, please let me know.

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:15 am

As always, it’s important to note that we still have a long way to go,

This is starting to feel like a “oh goodness, do we HAVE to say that again, just to avoid the dreaded ‘liberal media’ label, or being called liars?”

TBone

February 16th, 2012
11:15 am

Let’s pop the champagne corks, weeeeee. I guess Americans have just figured out that if we are on the Titanic we might as well go first class. Let’s leverage ourselves to the hilt and see what happens and then ask yourself, are you really any better off than you were four years ago?

getalife

February 16th, 2012
11:16 am

They key to finish our recovery is not to go back to the gop in the WH.

Easy choice this cycle.

RealityTime

February 16th, 2012
11:16 am

ADP, the biggest payroll company around, has also been reporting that they’ve been issuing significantly more whatcha call paychecks lately, fast approaching a record for them. I’m betting that those weren’t unemployment checks, much as the “oh, no – this can’t be true” crowd seems to want to believe.

F. Sinkwich

February 16th, 2012
11:16 am

The economy started to pick up once the Republicans took control of the House. Business leaders knew that at least some sort of brake would be applied to O’bozo’s job killing initiatives.

Once it becomes obvious that O’bozo and his merry Marxist band of euro-socialists will be heading back to Chicago the economy will really take off!

Normal

February 16th, 2012
11:16 am

Bad news for the GOP on this rainy day…maybe they should try to find some “rainy day women” to help them get by… :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIM03siHuaM

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:16 am

ZoCo: One reason the unemployment rate has fallen for five straight months is that many people have stopped looking for work. The government counts people as unemployed only if they are actively looking for a job.

just to be fair and balanced

Actually, every metric, including metrics that include those not actively looking for a job, has declined over the past five months.

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:17 am

TBone – “are you really any better off than you were four years ago?”

Judging from my investment portfolio, I would say yes.

Normal

February 16th, 2012
11:17 am

TBone,

you ask…”are you really any better off than you were four years ago?”

… Well, I know I am…thanks.

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:18 am

When do I get my $14 billion back?

After you actually personally pay $14 billion. How about then?

ZoSo

February 16th, 2012
11:19 am

But don’t let reality, facts, or any of those other inconvenient things spoil your talking points. You seem happier playing with your imaginary hordes anyhow, probably because they never disagree with you.

Talking points? This is from the AJC article.

Union

February 16th, 2012
11:20 am

reading this blog is like watching the ed show on msnbc.

0311/1811

February 16th, 2012
11:20 am

JAY:

You conveniently left this one out:

Headline: “Obama’s popularity could take a hit if gas prices continue to spike”

“The day President Obama was inaugurated, the average price of a gallon of gasoline was $1.84. Today that average is $3.52, a spike of just over 90 percent.”

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/02/15/with-increasing-gas-prices-comes-presidential-blame/?test=latestnews#ixzz1mYvjBBeW

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:21 am

F.Sinkwich – “Once it becomes obvious that O’bozo and his merry Marxist band of euro-socialists will be heading back to Chicago the economy will really take off!”

Or, the “job creators” have seen the alternatives available in the current batch of candidates and have decided to to stay with the devil they know.

0311/1811

February 16th, 2012
11:22 am

“But a corner does seem to have been turned.”

The biggest “corner” we have turned is we are losing our freedom. If Obama gets in for four more years you ain’t seen nothing yet. The “dictator” in him will really come out.

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:22 am

0311/1811 – ” http://www.foxnews.com

What a shocker.

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:23 am

I love how people say “Chicago style politics” and “New York elites” with disdain and then turn around and say Obama is the one trying to divide our country….

They BOTH suck

February 16th, 2012
11:24 am

ZoSo

From my 10:57 post which fit YOU like a glove

“It is implied each time JB has a post on the economy / employment……….. yet not one of those who believe this has ever posted credible evidence”

Speaking of talking pts…. That is all you have…. No facts: nada, zilch, zero

Nothing but right wing punditry pabulum

But thanks for coming out to join us today

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:24 am

Headline: “Obama’s popularity could take a hit if gas prices continue to spike”

Headline: Cons grab at straws again.

OOOOO that’s a good one. I’m using it.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

February 16th, 2012
11:24 am

Imagine how popular Obama would be, especially with Fox, if he controlled gas prices and reduced them…. I am sure the gas price chicken little brigade would greatly support a nationalization of the entire industry!

Peadawg

February 16th, 2012
11:25 am

“0311/1811 – ” http://www.foxnews.com”

What a shocker.”

We should make 0311/1811 wash his mouth out with one of these:

http://news.yahoo.com/trinidad-moruga-scorpion-wins-hottest-pepper-title-015457622.html

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:26 am

They BOTH suck – ““It is implied each time JB has a post on the economy / employment……….. yet not one of those who believe this has ever posted credible evidence”

Hey, to be fair, 1311/1811 did post a link from Fox News regarding gas prices. How can that not be deemed credible evidence?

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:26 am

Keep Up @ 11:24a :D

TBone

February 16th, 2012
11:26 am

At the rate our currency is being devalued, you better hope your portfolios are keeping up. I cashed it all in four years ago for gold and have done quite well plus have an asset that is appreciating. It does not take a Harvard MBA to see what damage this administration has done to the free market.

Normal

February 16th, 2012
11:27 am

Scout,
You have just got to tell us all how that is President Obama’s fault? I’m waiting with bated breath….

Now if President Obama had somehow nationalized the oil industry, and we never noticed…then you might have a point….so, do you have one?

0311/1811

February 16th, 2012
11:28 am

Butch Cassidy:

But the liberal mainstream media is truthful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM&feature=related

Robert

February 16th, 2012
11:29 am

We live in a global society and the American People are the greatest innovators and job creators in the world. The American People have embraced this opportunity to show the entire world that hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality are not family values. The American People elected President Obama by a landslide victory in 2008 and his presidency will be remembered for cleaning up the mess left behind by the GOP and their extremist group(s) recking havoc on our society. The day’s of the bigots ( tea party -klansmen, skinheads, birthers, militias, etc.) and the dictator’s around the world are over and the whole world has been blessed. Thank you God.

JohnnyReb

February 16th, 2012
11:29 am

See, a Republican House of Representatives who put a stop to Obama’s agenda, and the liklihood Obama will be defeated in November, is already working to turn the economy around!

Next thing you know, we will have a Senate and White House also under Republican control. Obamacare will be repealed. Businesses will again have confidence in the future, make those investments, hire those people, and we are off and running. A bonus will be drill baby drill and the Keysonte pipleline both driving down those ugly gas prices.

They BOTH suck

February 16th, 2012
11:29 am

Butch

Gas prices are not determined by Obama or Bush…… Bush was hammered too much for it and Obama is getting it now.

The right wants to cry about exploration, this and that… yet NEVER mentions (Guess Fox never tell them) that oil production in the US is increasing and we are a NET EXPORTER of oil and oil based products.

There is no effort by Big Oil to keep oil at home. Their choice, but many on the right think that Big Oil wants to keep oil in the US. The facts state a different story

0311/1811

February 16th, 2012
11:30 am

Peadawg:

“make” me?

Hummmm …………………

Aquagirl

February 16th, 2012
11:31 am

This is from the AJC article.

No, ZoSo, the AJC article does not say the unemployment rate is dropping because people have quit looking for work. That was your whiny talking point that got blown to smithereens. Now suck it up and admit that despite your bizarre, hateful hope, the unemployment rate is dropping because—gasp!—people are getting jobs.

I am not ignoring your faceplant because anyone who hopes for bad economic news is not worth one bit of compassion for the egg on their face. You richly deserve it.

Yip, yip, yippee

February 16th, 2012
11:31 am

All hail the chief. Long live President O. And may he be reelected in a landslide. I’m dreaming of it now: “Folks, I have earned some political capital. And I intend to spend it.” Makes me giddy!

They BOTH suck

February 16th, 2012
11:31 am

JohnnyReb

If Big Oil wanted to flood the US market because they like you so much, they could keep it here and the US would not be a NET EXPORTER

At least acknowledge the facts……………… It is one thing to say you do not like Obama and Obama policies but to keep that same tired OIL mantra LIE going……… well it makes a smart man like you look bad

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:32 am

0311/1811 – “But the liberal mainstream media is truthful.”

Wasn’t defending either one. However, a Fox report talking about a commodity that cannot be controlled by the President as being his downfall is pure Right Wing BS. Not to say that it won’t factor in with the masses, but I assure you that swapping Obama for the flavor of the month will do little to change the price of fuel.

Peadawg

February 16th, 2012
11:32 am

“Long live President O”

That what she said on Valentine’s Day.

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:32 am

See, a Republican House of Representatives who put a stop to Obama’s agenda, and the liklihood Obama will be defeated in November, is already working to turn the economy around!

I do wonder why the House Republicans are not making this case.

Normal

February 16th, 2012
11:32 am

JohnnyReb

February 16th, 2012
11:29 am

You have some rainy day women, don’t you?

Granny Godzilla

February 16th, 2012
11:33 am

This is marvelous news….really marvelous.

For those of you struggling to pooh-pooh this -

SHAME ON YOU

May God Bless America and damn the naysayers.

jconservative

February 16th, 2012
11:33 am

Chrysler will report a profit for the first time since 2009.

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:34 am

They BOTH suck – “Gas prices are not determined by Obama or Bush…… Bush was hammered too much for it and Obama is getting it now. ”

No argument from me.

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:35 am

JohnnyReb – “A bonus will be drill baby drill and the Keysonte pipleline both driving down those ugly gas prices.”

I see, and exactly how do you imagine that will happen?

Yip, yip, yippee

February 16th, 2012
11:37 am

Adam @ 11:32 – “I do wonder why the House Republicans are not making this case.”

Quite simply, because they can’t. They haven’t done anything to help improve the economy; all they’ve done since ‘taking power’ is do nothing. Oh, and capitulate to the Democrats, but that’s another story entirely.

Paul

February 16th, 2012
11:37 am

Lots more happy families out there.

Thank heavens.

Taxpayer

That first post of your was worth a double.

Get Real

February 16th, 2012
11:38 am

Gosh I think I will go out and buy a Chevy Volt….Yippee

But I will renew my subscription to Media Matters first……..righto

Midori

February 16th, 2012
11:38 am

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:39 am

Quite simply, because they can’t. They haven’t done anything to help improve the economy; all they’ve done since ‘taking power’ is do nothing.

Yes, but they haven’t let things like that stop them from making outlandish claims before….

Adam

February 16th, 2012
11:39 am

Gosh I think I will go out and buy a Chevy Volt….Yippee

Right, because you only get to be number one by selling ONE model of car. :roll:

Oscar

February 16th, 2012
11:40 am

Good news is always good news. Tough to see people trying to turn it into bad news.

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:41 am

Get Real – “But I will renew my subscription to Media Matters first……..righto”

What is this obsession you guys have in Georgi with Media Matters? Geebus, I live in NYC which is ground zero for Fox News, and no one I know even gives a shizz about Media Matters outside of Fox. Hell, I had to ask Adam what they were yesterday just so I knew what you guys were talking about.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 16th, 2012
11:41 am

ZoSo — “Joe, it’s called perspective.”

It’s called dishonesty.

“And what is with this ya’ll?”

Don’t like it, don’t read it.

barking frog

February 16th, 2012
11:41 am

The President of the United States can control the price
of anything in the United States including Labor.

TBone

February 16th, 2012
11:41 am

Exactly how is Georgia being fourth nationally in foreclosures good economic news. The ability of homeowner to pay his/her mortgage should reflect how the regional economy is doing. Or does this assertion just include the rest of the country?

Get Real

February 16th, 2012
11:42 am

Grow up Adam…your mom is calling you downstairs for lunch…

JohnnyReb

February 16th, 2012
11:42 am

et, al – if somehow Iran manages to block oil tankers in the straight of hormuz, you will find yourself wishing that pipeline from Canada was in place and working. The pipeline would not only drive down gas prices, but enhance our national security.

As to the Left’s position on increasing US production of crude would not make a difference – what a defeatist attitude. Of course it would drive down prices. Crude oil pricing is a futuers market. If you produce more the price goes down. Otherwise, how do you think OPEC has been able to control prices?

Rick

February 16th, 2012
11:42 am

“I do wonder why the House Republicans are not making this case.”

Kind of hard to when most polls are putting Obama ahead of any of the GOP candidates.

Butch Cassidy

February 16th, 2012
11:43 am

barking frog – “The President of the United States can control the price
of anything in the United States including Labor.”

See, that’s what I don’t understand. Those people who think he should are the same people that bitch because they think he’s a dictator. Confuses the hell out of me.

barking frog

February 16th, 2012
11:44 am

The Keystone pipeline will be built with environmental
safeguards in place.

Joe Hussein Mama

February 16th, 2012
11:44 am

F. Sinkiewicz — “When do I get my $14 billion back?”

Show me the receipt that says it was yours to start with.

“Also, can I stop paying $7,500 to every doofus that buys a POS Volt?”

I think I’ll go buy one just so I can stick my hand in your pocket and take $7500 of ‘your money.’

They BOTH suck

February 16th, 2012
11:45 am

JohnnyReb

Please explain how Big Oil has the US being a NET Exporter of oil, yet you believe the pipeline is the answer

Big Oil could keep all oil here in the US markets, right?

barking frog

February 16th, 2012
11:45 am

Butch, 11:43, If you’re confused think how confused they are.

0311/1811

February 16th, 2012
11:45 am

Butch Cassidy :

Agree to disagree.

We need a “drill, drill, drill” president who will seek energy independence. He should have opened that pipeline project.

JohnnyReb

February 16th, 2012
11:46 am

Normal

February 16th, 2012
11:32 am

JohnnyReb

February 16th, 2012
11:29 am

You have some rainy day women, don’t you?

Nah, that’s in the past. But you must admit, it’s a pleasant reminisce.