Bishops’ complaint an all-out war on contraception
I think it’s important to understand just what the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops is demanding in its war against contraception coverage. Here’s USA Today on the matter:
The White House is “all talk, no action” on moving toward compromise, said Anthony Picarello, general counsel for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. “There has been a lot of talk in the last couple days about compromise, but it sounds to us like a way to turn down the heat, to placate people without doing anything in particular,” Picarello said. “We’re not going to do anything until this is fixed.”
That means removing the provision from the health care law altogether, he said, not simply changing it for Catholic employers and their insurers. He cited the problem that would create for “good Catholic business people who can’t in good conscience cooperate with this.”
“If I quit this job and opened a Taco Bell, I’d be covered by the mandate,” Picarello said.
In other words, the bishops are not merely demanding that church-affiliated organizations be exempted from the requirement that contraception be covered in health insurance. They are insisting that the contraception requirement be abolished altogether.
The proposed legislative fix endorsed by the bishops, HR 1179, makes that explicitly clear. It states that no insurer or employer can be required to provide coverage if paying for such coverage “is contrary to the religious beliefs or moral convictions of the sponsor, issuer, or other entity offering the plan; or (if) such coverage (in the case of individual coverage) is contrary to the religious beliefs or moral convictions of the purchaser or beneficiary of the coverage.”
Again, that is not a fix limited to churches or church-affliated organizations. It would prohibit the contraception requirement across the board, for every employer and insurer.
If you had any doubts about how political this all is, that ought to resolve them. Twenty-eight states, including conservative Georgia, have had laws on the books for years that require contraceptives be covered, with not a squeak of protest or complaint.
And yet now it becomes a threat to religious liberty?
– Jay Bookman
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F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
6:34 pm
Are any of you lib ilks claiming this Id (short for) idiot?
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
6:34 pm
Jay! Can you hear me, Jay?
Sue
February 9th, 2012
6:35 pm
I remember how Bookman told us that the increase in the minimum wage would have no effect on the employablity of younger, especially minority workers. The AJC has piece today about the extremely high rates of unemployment of young minority workers.
Bookman has no credilbity. He is just a parrot for his masters.
This particular column is particularly shameful as he is lying about the real issue which is freedom of conscience and has a long pattern of lying about the reality of the overreaching health care reform act.
LIberty is draining away at the hands of Obama and the left. More and more we are being controlled and dictated to by the government in every domain of life.
Obama = Corruption
February 9th, 2012
6:35 pm
What about Rolan Martin being thrown under the leftest media bus from CNN?
josef
February 9th, 2012
6:37 pm
ld
@ 6:30
That’s one is funny! Them Muslims immigrants sound an awful lot like them Jews of the 1880s!
And Mexicans answering to the Pope? Have you any idea of just HOW secular the Mexican constitiution IS? AND how enforced it is?
Johnny Five
February 9th, 2012
6:39 pm
From the level of conservative poutrage and whining on here, you would think that Obama’s evail Socialist Youth Corp henchmen will be forcing everyone to wear condoms, personally inserting that diaphragm into uteri, or shoving that birth control pills down everyone’s throats…
Recon 2533 1811
February 9th, 2012
6:40 pm
“The “potential consequence” you speak of is a matter of indidivual choice and has little impact on the “health care perspective.”
Irrelevant? Bingo on the above and thanks for helping to make my point.
BTW…your reply to my view of the Scalia ruling proves that you’re not a lawyer either. You should at least know that the law is all about precedent and it’s interpretation. That ruling can be interpreted to go against the mandate argument and its constitutional legality.
ld
February 9th, 2012
6:41 pm
The next US president is likely to appoint at least two Supreme Court judges.
This independent voter has no great affection for our current inept inglorious leader, and I would prefer to vote for someone w/a more libertarian bent on social issues (and on guns and drug issues) and a more reasoned and moderate view on economic issues as well as a more pragmatic view on international issues. But, I also expect Georgia to again follow its “bible belt” leanings toward the GOP.
However,
Any woman that wants any of the top-tier GOP candidates to appoint those judges is either being very short-sighted with regard to the rights of their female children, grandchildren, etc. — or she is of the “M” ilk of an S&M bent of mind.
Midori
February 9th, 2012
6:41 pm
Attention Pro Obama Forces
We are now planning to attack American values with Marshmallow cannons
designed by grade schoolers.
Sgt. Midori reporting for duty!!!
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
6:42 pm
“Socialist Youth Corp henchmen”
That’s about the funniest thing I’ve heard on this blog!
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
6:43 pm
Midori, you need to dump that boyfriend of yours and come to your senses!
Tealiban Party
February 9th, 2012
6:43 pm
I am convinced President Obama is actually a Republican!
First, he introduces Romneycare to the nation, and now he is using the same Contraception Coverage rules as the Georgia General Assembly!!!
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
6:46 pm
What’s important to remember about this whole brou-ha-ha is that it was law under King Dumbass the First’s reign.
You cain’t be serious about that, Sooth! Oh, no? Look it up!
josef
February 9th, 2012
6:47 pm
Obama = Corruption
Jay kicks off people who are personally abusive. He doesn’t kick off people who simply disagree with him. I disagree with him regularly on certain points and he’s not one to back down even when presented with a counter argument puncturing holes in his own sometimes disturbingly orthodox conservative perceptions…but, you just don’t like him out of hand…a limited viewpoint from a limited mind…and if I were YOU, I’d be a bit more judicious in the use of the second person pronoun…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
I see we have Scout confessing that the only thing that was keeping him from wearing dresses when he grew up was some shop teacher who had no training in psychology or in sexual issues and thankfully that primitive abuse kept him in the closet. Why by the time he joined the Marines, he almost never wore dresses! Did I guess that right Scout? I mean that is what you are suggesting from your own experience right? You wouldn’t be imposing your own phobias on others?
Aquagirl
February 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
I am convinced President Obama is actually a Republican!
His father was Republican, it’s on the Kenyan birth certificate.
0311/1811
February 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
Obama = Corruption :
Ginsburg has debased the very Constitution she was sworn to uphold.
She has vacated her right to sit on the court in my opinion.
ld
February 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
josef
I was only acknowledging that more of the illegals from south of the border are Catholic than the current, (Protestant) “evangelical” political right.
My point is that in this globalized world w/immigration policy in the US like an unlocked if not open door, so the “majority” could, potentially, change.
It comes under the heading of, “be careful what you wish for”.
Protestant evangelicals would likely not want their offspring to be forced to abide by laws from Catholic or Islamic dogma.
The Cloud-Jm
February 9th, 2012
6:48 pm
So what did getalife say on page 1?
josef
February 9th, 2012
6:49 pm
midori
Don’t listen to Sooth…keep that boyfriend! He’s got good sense! (Not to mention good taste in women!)
Fred (on the short bus)
February 9th, 2012
6:50 pm
Obama = Corruption
February 9th, 2012
6:35 pm
What about Rolan Martin being thrown under the leftest media bus from CNN?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
That was pretty shirty and I can say I for one am tired of the LGBTB (or whatever it is) Mafia severing people from their jobs over “slights” real or perceived. What the hell is ISH anyway?
F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
6:52 pm
More libroolery:
LOS ANGELES (CBS) — When you head down to the beach for a little fun this summer, county officials want you to leave the pigskin at home.
The Board of Supervisors this week agreed to raise fines for anyone who throws a football or a Frisbee on any beach in Los Angeles County.
The Cloud-Jm
February 9th, 2012
6:52 pm
Fred is a bigot
middle of the road
February 9th, 2012
6:53 pm
Good news is that with less contraception out there, there will be more abortions. You see, I am pro-abortion!
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
6:54 pm
josef:
You disagree with everyone!
Fred (on the short bus)
February 9th, 2012
6:54 pm
Obama = Corruption
February 9th, 2012
6:31 pm
josef, No Jay will kick you off his blogg if you prove him wrong and blogg the truth. Isn’t that so TruthBe. But Jay will never kick any of you liberal progressive democrat obamajuice drinkers off no matter how wrong or hateful you are. Just ask getalife today when she was soooooooooo ugly to the Catholic Church. Well Jay what about that???????
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http://www.imagepoop.com/image/1889/I-See-Stupid-People.html
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
6:56 pm
“Socialist Youth Corp henchmen”
Pinkshirts! (or is that mauve?)
Fred (on the short bus)
February 9th, 2012
6:57 pm
josef
February 9th, 2012
6:49 pm
midori
Don’t listen to Sooth…keep that boyfriend! He’s got good sense! (Not to mention good taste in women!)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Midori has a new boyfriend? Oh my………..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyXzwtIlZyg
Fred (on the short bus)
February 9th, 2012
6:58 pm
middle of the road
February 9th, 2012
6:53 pm
Good news is that with less contraception out there, there will be more abortions. You see, I am pro-abortion!
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Unfortunately your mom wasn’t.
LOL sorry. I couldn’t resist. YOU teed it up. I merely drove it down range.
getalife
February 9th, 2012
6:58 pm
fred,
My bad
ld
February 9th, 2012
6:58 pm
Fsinkwich (6:34 pm)
I disagree w/”libs” on a number of issues–economic and guns– but am certainly more progressive than the right-wing-nuts that want to teach creationism in school as fact and omit the theory of evolution entirely.
I’ve been listening to Ron Paul as an alternative to our current, inept leader; however, he seems a bit shrill on some issues, and perhaps even obtuse on foreign policy–he has not indicated how he intends to create policy w/regard to the defense treaties we now have. If we can bring home most troops from overseas and maintain our defense partnerships by other means, this could be a good thing. On the other hand, if all our troops are in the US, we can expect the next world war to be fought here, too?
I don’t want to be claimed by anyone; believe everyone should think for themselves.
Some of you, however, seem unable to function outside a pack mentality.
josef
February 9th, 2012
6:59 pm
JM
“Fred is a bigot”
Why would you say that?
Can’t he be “tired of it…?”
Personally, I’ll be glad to see Martin go…not over this insult, slip of the lip, or what have you, but because I find him an arrogant little jerk so full of himself I automatically flip the switch when he’s on air…Pavlovian reaction…if the LBGT Mafia gets the job done, good…
ld
February 9th, 2012
7:00 pm
Fred (6:58)
ironic humor;
lol
snicker, snicker, chuckle snort
barking frog
February 9th, 2012
7:02 pm
Obama = Corruption
February 9th, 2012
6:31 pm
Jay will kick you off his blogg if you prove him wrong and blogg the truth.
——————-
Guess you’re lucky to be unable to prove him wrong and blog untruth.
josef
February 9th, 2012
7:03 pm
SOOTH
“You disagree with everyone”
Nyanh. They disagree with ME! :-
They BOTH suck
February 9th, 2012
7:03 pm
josef @ 6:59
I would have to agree……. Martin’s little act is tired
Recon 2533 1811
February 9th, 2012
7:04 pm
josef,
Now you know that there are those on the left who blog here that get a pass for their abusive comments. You’re not among them and neither are other left wing posters who display class in their comments. I could name names but of course I won’t as you know who they are.
Aquagirl
February 9th, 2012
7:05 pm
Some of you, however, seem unable to function outside a pack mentality.
What do you expect? We’re ilk.
ld
February 9th, 2012
7:07 pm
F.Sinkwich
ld = L D
granny godzilla
February 9th, 2012
7:09 pm
Midori
How are you! Hope the world looks better to you everyday.
Is it just me but is there a wee hint of testosterone in the air?
Tundra Dude
February 9th, 2012
7:09 pm
I am convinced President Obama is actually a Republican!
Even this ultra-liberal economist/historian agrees.
http://goo.gl/r0z6M
Obama’s New Populist Fakery
Michael Hudson, October 2011
former Wall Street economist. A Distinguished Research Professor at UMKC
(snipped)
President Obama’s policies have not been the voice of reason. They are even further to the right than George W. Bush could have achieved. At least a Republican president would have confronted a Democratic Congress blocking the kind of program that Obama has rammed through. But the Democrats seem stymied when it comes to standing up to a president who ran as a Democrat rather than the Tea Partier he seems to be so close to in his ideology.
F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
7:10 pm
“What do you expect? We’re ilk.”
Kinda sad you are.
The vast majority of people here used to love America and all it stands for.
TaxPayer
February 9th, 2012
7:11 pm
Well, we know what some Catholic men think about this issue but what about the Catholic women. Are they getting a headache just from listening to some of this. Perhaps they would just as soon abstain from any part of this issue.
getalife
February 9th, 2012
7:11 pm
“The vast majority of people here used to love America and all it stands for”
Then they lost their moral compass.
F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
7:12 pm
“F.Sinkwich
ld = L D”
Loser Democrat?
josef
February 9th, 2012
7:13 pm
DEL
Well, he does get in a snit from time to time with some who, imuo, have said nothing any worse than some on the “other side.” I never have been able to get a handle on it…
Midori
February 9th, 2012
7:15 pm
Josef – Sooth is just being a hata!!
Mrs. G – testosterone? Is that what that smell is?
F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
7:16 pm
My bad, getalife.
I meant most “here” referenced Ameica at large, not Jay’s blog.
Most here hate America, ’cause they’re lib ilks.
Aquagirl
February 9th, 2012
7:17 pm
The vast majority of people here used to love America and all it stands for.
Is there an app for that? I’m really busy and can’t multitask anymore.
They BOTH suck
February 9th, 2012
7:17 pm
F Sinkwich
“Most here hate America, ’cause they’re lib ilks.”
Really? Tell me you are just joking
getalife
February 9th, 2012
7:18 pm
They don’t hate America filky.
Oh the drama!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 9th, 2012
7:18 pm
The vast majority of people here used to love America and all it stands for.
Yes, we the progressive liberal ilk, used to love America but not for what you want to make it stand for
We are not proud of an America that would let people die because they could not afford preventative medical care
We are not proud of an America that forces many families to go bankrupt to provide medical care
We are not proud of an America that does not provide for its return servicemen and servicewomen, providing support for the sacrifices they made
We are not proud of an America where police officials pepper spray peaceful protestors or beats them while keeping the media out hiding their acts
We are not proud of an America that expects the middle class to pay for the care of those with lower income and to subsidize the rich and corporate america.
No we are not proud of an America that you would have us become and for what you would have it stand for.
I am sure I could add a lot more but the simple fact is….. Your vision for America makes me sick to my stomach and I will stand against you to fight for a better America each and every day.
Midori
February 9th, 2012
7:19 pm
can’t we just dislike you instead, Sinkwich?
josef
February 9th, 2012
7:20 pm
midori, granny
Well, speaking strictly from the biological viewpoint, the estrogen crowd do seem to have a certain, well, je ne sais quoi, when they smell it!
Fred (on the short bus)
February 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
josef
February 9th, 2012
6:59 pm
JM
“Fred is a bigot”
Why would you say that?
Can’t he be “tired of it…?”
Personally, I’ll be glad to see Martin go…not over this insult, slip of the lip, or what have you, but because I find him an arrogant little jerk so full of himself I automatically flip the switch when he’s on air…Pavlovian reaction…if the LBGT Mafia gets the job done, good…
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LOL josef. I wouldn’t know the guy if he came up and kicked me in the butt. But I read the same reaction as you expressed about him on the same blog I read about this. Sounds like he’s just an asshat and CNN is using this as an excuse.
BTW Can you tell me what ish means? I can’t noodle it out.
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
Keep @ 7:18: WELL SAID!
F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Really? Tell me you are just joking”
Nope.
Just read their posts for proof.
ld
February 9th, 2012
7:24 pm
Back to Jays article…
The Catholic church as been known to change rules–once priests could marry. The rules of the Catholic church are, like the rules of all religions, man-made rules.
If the Catholic church wants to operate hospitals and clinics and have them serve as a branch of their church, then, as long as it is not tax-payer supported, I have no problem with that, however
…it needs to be made clear to both the facilities and to all potential patients that no taxpayer $ will go to those facilities –including medicare or medicaid.
????? DO ANY OF YOU KNOW ?????
I’ve not seen the specific wording of the documents to which the Catholic Church is objecting. Do those documents/rules/regulations/laws require that to stay in business the Catholic hospitals/clinics must either provide birth control and/or perform abortions or is it just that to receive any funds from gov’t they must provide these services?
getalife
February 9th, 2012
7:24 pm
filky,
I was talking about you cons.
F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
7:26 pm
“We are not proud of an America”
Case closed.
Keep, like all lib ilks, hate America.
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
7:26 pm
Now that’s the way I like it!
Recon 2533 1811
February 9th, 2012
7:26 pm
http://www.priestsforlife.org/index.aspx
Here’s another one that could be headed to the SCOTUS. Obama sure is racking them up.
0311/1811
February 9th, 2012
7:28 pm
Good Fight !
It was that wooden paddle (with holes in it for the air effect) he had !
By the way:
In the Marine Corps a tie is a “scarf” and your dress green jacket is a “blouse”.
Just sayin’ ……………………..
getalife
February 9th, 2012
7:28 pm
del,
He will probably use waivers.
granny godzilla
February 9th, 2012
7:28 pm
midori
yep.
all trying to decide one way or another what we women can and cannot do with our bits and pieces.
Fred (on the short bus)
February 9th, 2012
7:29 pm
LOL I haven’t been able to keep up all day. I THOUGHT I was going to now, but we were on line (me and the 9 yo daughter) looking at English Cream Doxies. Now after looking she is wound tighter than a republican at a democratic lynching party………..
F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
7:29 pm
“can’t we just dislike you instead, Sinkwich?”
Sure!
Aquagirl
February 9th, 2012
7:30 pm
can’t we just dislike you instead, Sinkwich?
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
7:31 pm
If only REDNECK CONVERT were here! Surely HE could sort this all out for us and make it make sense! If only he were here!
0311/1811
February 9th, 2012
7:31 pm
Good Fight:
http://www.militaryuniformexchange.com/exchange/viewad.asp?id=50000262566105510
Fred (on the short bus)
February 9th, 2012
7:32 pm
https://www.google.com/search?q=english+cream+dachshund+pics&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=HA0&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ZGU0T8G2IIOctwfwiZWnAg&ved=0CCQQsAQ&biw=1152&bih=697
josef
February 9th, 2012
7:33 pm
Sinkwich
Not every American is as narrow minded as you seem to be…
FRED
I’m not at all current on the internet acronyms…don’t know what ISH is…
Sammy
February 9th, 2012
7:34 pm
I read today that the Obama White House is trying to cast this issue as one of access to abortion and contraception, not religious liberty. Here is Bookman, right on cue doing his job, feeding us the party line. Why not cut out the middle man and just publish the talking points from Obama. Bookman is a wasted salary in the middle.
Recon 2533 1811
February 9th, 2012
7:36 pm
0311/811,
What’s a contract PFC in boot camp? I had a meritorious promotion but that was at the end of boot camp. Never heard that term before.
0311/1811
February 9th, 2012
7:36 pm
Sammy:
What’s next …………. forcing a Catholic Hosptial to PERFORM an abortion?
You bet !
F. Sinkwich
February 9th, 2012
7:36 pm
“Why not cut out the middle man and just publish the talking points from Obama. Bookman is a wasted salary in the middle.”
So is Granny.
She gets paid by the DNC per post.
Aquagirl
February 9th, 2012
7:37 pm
Bookman is a wasted salary in the middle.
Somebody needs an English Cream Dachshund to hug.
I really think that would help, Sammy.
0311/1811
February 9th, 2012
7:38 pm
Recon 2533 1811 :
I made PFC also but never heard of that. Where did you see it?
Could it be someone from a military ally going through the process ?
barking frog
February 9th, 2012
7:38 pm
Fred. check the urban dictionary for ISH, might help..
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 9th, 2012
7:38 pm
If only REDNECK CONVERT were here! Surely HE could sort this all out for us and make it make sense! If only he were here!
Well, Sooth, I been here and I made what seemed to me a sensible suggestion. Just have all the health insurance plans pay for fixing men and women. Then there’d be no need for birth control and this would be the nicest blog in the U.S. of A., what with nobody having all those hormones.
But nobody listens to me for some reason.
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
7:41 pm
“But nobody listens to me for some reason.”
I just don’t understand it. As I’ve said before, you’re our very own trailer park Voltaire!
Just ignorance, one can only guess!
Recon 2533 1811
February 9th, 2012
7:41 pm
0311/1811,
In your link@7:31.
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
7:44 pm
Sorry, Jam-man! I’m just in one of those moods tonight!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
February 9th, 2012
7:45 pm
josef….try this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ish
n
February 9th, 2012
7:45 pm
Redneck Convert is correct, of course. Hormones will be the downfall of civilization.
Aquagirl
February 9th, 2012
7:46 pm
But nobody listens to me for some reason.
My uncle says that too. We keep telling him to put his teeth in.
Just a thought.
md
February 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
A little greed on the other end of the spectrum:
http://newsok.com/seiu-makes-play-for-dues-from-conn.-subsidy/article/feed/345852
“The SEIU achieved this goal in Michigan, with the result that even low-income families who receive a Medicaid subsidy to take care of their adult, disabled children are losing $30 a month to the union. “Our daughter is 34 and our son is 30,” retired police office Robert Haynes said of the Michigan unionization. “They have cerebral palsy. They are basically like 6-month-olds in adult bodies. They need to be fed and they wear diapers. We could sure use that $30 a month that’s being sent to the union.”"
3rd party unions are bleeders……….out for themselves. And folks only focus on the greed in places like Wall St.
Rachel from the Outside
February 9th, 2012
7:51 pm
Bookman and Obama beleive that Christains, both Catholic and protestant should no longer have freedom of conscience in this country. This issue is about liberty and the free exercise of religion, pure and simple. Obama thinks his health care reform is the most important thing and the Constitution be damned.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
February 9th, 2012
7:52 pm
My uncle says that too. We keep telling him to put his teeth in.
Just a thought.
Well, Aquagirl, I’m not too old to hunt you down. I recall I use to have to come back at you on Wooten’s blog. Come to think of it, you must be getting up there in years.
Soothsayer
February 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
Is it love? I’ll never forget the first time I ever heard this song!
JKL2
February 9th, 2012
7:54 pm
aquagirl- Seriously, your attitude is leaking out all over the place and it ain’t pretty
I know. Personal responsibility is pure evil. If only the government could step in to help protect all the stupid people from themselves…
Vote obama. Free money for everyone!
0311/1811
February 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
Recon:
You got me ……….. I just put that there to show Good Fight he could have been a Marine and worn a blouse ……………..
Bruno
February 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
Out of curiosity, have any of the Libs here explained how health insurance stopped being a benefit and became a right?? The afternoon crew drew a blank.
An oldie but goodie from Jigsaw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mudlXF3MA8Q
Jay
February 9th, 2012
7:55 pm
“Bookman is a wasted salary in the middle.”
I’ll have you know my salary is NOT wasted. I put it to very good use.
ld
February 9th, 2012
7:56 pm
Recon
Thanks for the link.
Solution is simple–just end all employee insurance. And
Find or have created an independent “credit union” for medical employees w/i a specific geographical area through which employees can buy their group insurance of choice covering what they want and/or don’t want via riders–and, of course, pay the employees enough that they can afford the insurance.
like that word “CHOICE”.
md
February 9th, 2012
7:56 pm
In case folks don’t read that link, this union says because a family gets Medicaid, they are in essence a gov’t employee and therefore should cough up dues to take care of their own family member………
Talking about stretching…………
ld
February 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
Jay, if you discover you have no good uses for your $alary, pass it on.
ld
February 9th, 2012
7:59 pm
If I were one to bet ( and if it were legal ), I’d bet many Catholics would want birth control and even abortions available to them as well.
Have a cousin that married a Catholic w/prior understanding of two children limit. They’re still happily married some fifty years–w/two grown children half dozen or so grandchildren.
0311/1811
February 9th, 2012
8:00 pm
Ooooops !!!
Headline: “More Dems unhappy with birth control rule”
“Support for the Obama administration’s requirements that some religious employers’ health plans cover contraceptives slipped further in the Senate on Thursday as more Democrats voiced objections, and Republicans consider attaching a measure that would strike the contentious requirement onto a highway funding bill now under consideration.”
Hey you libs. …………. better get those people in line !!!
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72704.html#ixzz1lw6wVerz
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72704.html
Aquagirl
February 9th, 2012
8:00 pm
you must be getting up there in years.
Yeah, but I still have my own teeth. Which is a miracle, considering I’ve said smart@$$ stuff like that since I could talk. I can probably even outrun a beer truck for short distances if I’m really terrified.