Even Rasmussen now has Obama surging
It may prove to be an aberration, but I see that even Rasmussen now has Barack Obama polling in positive numbers, with 51 percent of Americans approving of his performance as president and 48 percent disapproving.
That three-point approval margin is the largest reported by Rasmussen since October of 2009.
Gallup doesn’t show quite that amount of approval. In fact, Obama remains barely “underwater” in that poll, with 47 percent disapproval and 46 percent approval. But that’s a significant improvement over the 38 percent Gallup approval rating as recently as October 2011.
You can attribute that improvement to a variety of factors, among them a slowly improving economy, a new willingness by Obama to confront congressional Republicans, the fratricide of the Republican presidential primary and his commitment to a more populist economic message.
Of course, none of that guarantees re-election, although futures traders at Intrade also have Obama’s prospects brightening recently, with the probability of another four years now at 54 percent. And whatever happens in November, the polling data cast an interesting light on claims posted here often by conservatives that “everybody hates Obama” and “even Mickey Mouse could beat” him.
Well, no they don’t and no he couldn’t.
It’s easy to talk yourself into that kind of belief, particularly if you live in deeply red areas of a pretty red state such as Georgia, where everyone that you see and know agrees with you and those who don’t agree just stay silent. That tendency can be compounded if you set up virtual residence within the right-wing echo chamber, where the anti-Obama drumbeat sounds 24 hours a day.
But as even Rasmussen tells you, if you’re going to beat Obama, it’s not going to be easy. (They have Obama defeating Mitt Romney 47-41, and defeating Gingrich 52-35). Because the basic notion that broad segments of the American people have rejected Obama and his politics is simply incorrect.
– Jay Bookman
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Ibin Yirkinoff
January 31st, 2012
12:05 pm
So, Tom, military experience should preclude one voting for Obama?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 31st, 2012
12:05 pm
JKL2 — “His numbers may not be accurate but his theory is.”
And in support of your claim to truthfulness and factual analysis, you cite . . . an opinion column.
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:06 pm
reb,
What case?
You lost.
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:06 pm
butch,
boehner has admitted both only the difference is you libs want to take more money from the masses to gain revenue, while conservatives want the revenue to come from the private sector actually growing……….an argument radical hussein will lose this fall….enjoy
ByteMe
January 31st, 2012
12:07 pm
Kamchak, you could send them here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late-2000s_financial_crisis
But that would involve reading and processing of “facts”, which they need someone else to do for them.
JOE Cool (I'm Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
January 31st, 2012
12:07 pm
“He is still worse than Jimmy. Just look at the stats.”
You mean the 2 plus millions jobs added in the last 14 months?
Are you comparing that to the almost 4 million lost under Bush the last 6 months of his term?
Stevie Ray
January 31st, 2012
12:08 pm
ITSALLBUSHESFAULT,
If so, will BO go down as the only president in history to accomplish nothing because he was dealt such an awful hand? That’s quite a legacy…he still has time to get a spine…other presidents have successfully got things done with divided congress….leadership is what I think it’s called..
Butch Cassidy
January 31st, 2012
12:08 pm
md – “Depends on which CBO report one wants to look at. The latest suggests fed workers (at least on the lower end) make more than their private sector counterparts………and it is that private sector that has to generate the salaries for both positions………overspending?
I was referring to the CBO report that came out in the last hour in the AJC. Didn’t see anything about government workers in the analysis below:
“The CBO report shows that the deficit dilemma would largely be solved if the tax cuts enacted in 2001 and 2003 — and renewed in 2010 through the end of this year — were allowed to lapse. Under that scenario, the deficit would drop to $585 billion in 2013 and to $220 billion in 2017.”
Kamchak
January 31st, 2012
12:09 pm
JAY,
Perhaps someone already posted this but:
Yes, and the conclusion:
Our guess is that Jones’ latter hypothesis is the right one — that we are simply living in an era in which Democrats dislike a Republican president (and Republicans dislike a Democratic one) even before the commander in chief has taken a single official action.
It doesn’t say what the headline implies.
Open Lib
January 31st, 2012
12:09 pm
Johnny Reb – I’ll read your’s if you read mine: http://www.amazon.com/What-Liberal-Media-Truth-About/dp/0465001769
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:10 pm
stevie,
Our President accomplished many things in three years.
You cons ignore this fact.
Williebkind
January 31st, 2012
12:10 pm
Nprmal and GG are an embarrasement for their relatives! Gad, they would vote for scum if it had a liberal tag.
ByteMe
January 31st, 2012
12:11 pm
I was referring to the CBO report that came out in the last hour in the AJC. Didn’t see anything about government workers in the analysis below:
Interestingly, the Bush FY 2008 budget submitted to Congress also said the same thing: that if the tax cuts were allowed to expire, the deficit would go away within 4 years and we’d be rolling in surpluses after that. Funny about that.
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:11 pm
joe,
he’s down 2 million jobs, the univers of jobs is down another 2 million and he’s added 5 trillion in debt……..he pushes class warfare and division which is all community organizers know so, please run on that record…..PLEASE
Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
January 31st, 2012
12:12 pm
BO go down as the only president in history to accomplish nothing
umm, let’s see:
1) passed health care legislation
2) removed the middle man from the student loan programs
3) ended DADT
4) got OBL
5) ended the Iraq war on the date it was supposed to end
to name a few…
Stevie Ray
January 31st, 2012
12:12 pm
ITSBUSHESFAULT,
Regarding telecom, do you realize BO promised (up to DEM filibuster) to bring criminal action against these folks then got telecom cash and shut down DEM filibuster all the same? Check out Gleenn Greenwalds “Libery and Justice for Some”.
Butch Cassidy
January 31st, 2012
12:12 pm
Billybob – “the difference is you libs want to take more money from the masses to gain revenue, while conservatives want the revenue to come from the private sector actually growing”
Actually the difference is that I’m neither a “lib” or a “con”. I pretty much hold both parties in the same regard as I do stepping in dog shizz while walking around my neighborhood. However, thank you for further proving the point that if you disagree with the Right you must automatically be from the Left…..Enjoy
The Blatant Lie That Can Be Heard All Over The World (that “everybody hates Obama” and “even Mickey Mouse could beat” him)
January 31st, 2012
12:13 pm
@Tom(Independent)
January 31st, 2012
11:58 am
Just a question, any of you liberal Obama supporters ever serve in the military? Serious response only, please?
***************************************************
Any of you (Independent) supporters’ families ever served in the CIVIL WAR?
On what side?
Serious response only, please?
Kamchak
January 31st, 2012
12:13 pm
But that would involve reading and processing of “facts”, which they need someone else to do for them.
ByteMe
These Econ 101ers generally show up on the evening shift and drunk/drinking so that even if they had someone to read it to them, that processing thingie would be even more difficult.
Butch Cassidy
January 31st, 2012
12:13 pm
Billybob – “……..he pushes class warfare and division which is all community organizers know
Exactly how many community organizers do you know?
willie lynch
January 31st, 2012
12:14 pm
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:06 pm
Wasn’t it the unregulated private sector that caused the collapse we’re trying to recover from?
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:14 pm
You may not want to admit whose side you are on, but that doesn’t change the fact of what my point was……..answer to that not something trivial
JOE Cool (I'm Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
January 31st, 2012
12:14 pm
Bottom Line CONs: The Economy is doing better. Is it doing as good as we would like it to? No, but denying the the economy is doing better shows how much of a partisan hack you are.
FACTS: 15 straight months of job growth.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth
williebkind
January 31st, 2012
12:15 pm
You can say all liberals are democrat but not all republicans are conservative. There is really no democrat party it is a liberal party. Their ideology creates chaos, ignores rules of law, and easily takes life. You want to vote for more of that?
Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
January 31st, 2012
12:15 pm
Just the act of passing health care legislation is enough for 4 years.
Next 4 years gonna be tearful to conservatives as Obama continues to correct the horrendous path we went down during the W years (the President who let the planes fly into the World Trade Center).
Stevie Ray
January 31st, 2012
12:16 pm
FINN,
Not much if you ask me…healthcare thingy will crash and burn due to his impetuous jamming of a crappy bill…OBL was more ceremony that security…it took 10 years of intelligence infrastructure rebuilding to find his arse. I completely support DODT, student loans accomplishments (hopefully we won’t end up on the hook for these as well), and keeping to previous administrations timetable to get out of IRAQ…Not much audacity IMO.
He is now the most devisive WH occupant in history…
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:16 pm
stevie,
All the gop voted with Senator Obama on that issue.
It was a disgusting debate.
Did you watch it on C-Span?
Kamchak
January 31st, 2012
12:17 pm
You can say all liberals are democrat but not all republicans are conservative.
You could also say that unicorns crap Skittles.
But neither of our statements are close to reality.
JOE Cool (I'm Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
January 31st, 2012
12:17 pm
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:11 pm
Please give me a breakdown of that 5 trillion in debt. thanks
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:18 pm
all i need to know is one community organizer……it was some in the private sector that were facilitated by the unregulated gov’t intrustion into the free market….you are half right
Joe Hussein Mama
January 31st, 2012
12:18 pm
williebkind — “Their ideology creates chaos, ignores rules of law, and easily takes life. You want to vote for more of that?”
No, which is why I vote Democratic now.
Chaos = demonstrations against the war
Ignores Rules of Law = Bush’s signing statements indicating that he would ignore Congressional legislation he didn’t like
Easily Takes Life = Attacked Iraq when OBL was known to be in Afghanistan
Stevie Ray
January 31st, 2012
12:18 pm
FINN,
It’s not your money daddio..
williebkind
January 31st, 2012
12:19 pm
JOE Cool (I’m Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
That goes to show you what a great country this is when a community organizer has a very difficult time in supressing its economy. Do you drive a car? Do you use electricity? Do you eat? Shucks JOE COOL I bet you are a green energy type of person. How many carbon units do you use?
MiltonMan
January 31st, 2012
12:19 pm
Oh! How cute! A liberal who does not quite understand how to properly use the word “Surge” which implies movement in an abnormal manner.
Libs Obama goes from 49 to 51% approval = surge.
Hilarious.
Butch Cassidy
January 31st, 2012
12:20 pm
Billybob – “You may not want to admit whose side you are on, but that doesn’t change the fact of what my point was……..answer to that not something trivial”
Why don’t you focus on my original post. IF we let the tax cuts expire, we immediately drop the deficit. However, it would have a negative impact on economic growth. Since Romney is running on the standard GOP platform of lower taxes, my qyestion is how can he attempt to achieve economic growth AND lower the defecit? It wasn’t a partisan question.
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:20 pm
joe,
do your own research….it’s easy to find
Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
January 31st, 2012
12:20 pm
healthcare thingy will crash and burn due to his impetuous jamming of a crappy bill
Not likely. They’ve been quietly implementing it since the day it was signed. At this point, it would cost us MORE to stop it than to see it through.
Georgia, The " New Mississippi "
January 31st, 2012
12:20 pm
This will surely change when the Super PAC’s start spending . The republiCons can always find some southern dimwits to take the GOP bait.
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:21 pm
Who will you cons blame for this loss?
The newt?
Gator Joe
January 31st, 2012
12:21 pm
Tom(Independent)January 31st, 2012@11:58 am:
First, my serious answer to your query, and a question for you, I am a lifelong Democrat, a Liberal and a Marine who served from 1965-1969. While I served honorably, I didn’t serve in combat.
Now a question for you, do you care about the poor in this country, the degradation of the environment, the education of our children, the well-being of our elderly, the uninsured who cannot afford health care, do you condone bigotry and racism?
williebkind
January 31st, 2012
12:21 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 31st, 2012
12:18 pm
You sure are funny! Every thing you wrote is a typical drive by liberal rant.
MiltonMan
January 31st, 2012
12:21 pm
Libs all excited about Obama passing Obamacare??? The same law that your wicked beast Pelosi said pass it to know what is in it.
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:22 pm
billybob,
Google “President Obama’s accomplishments” and spin that.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 31st, 2012
12:22 pm
MiltonMan — “Libs Obama goes from 49 to 51% approval = surge. Hilarious.”
What’s hilarious is acting as if your man President Bush was operating with a “mandate” when the *aggregate* approval rating for President Bush AND VP Cheney didn’t even equal Obama’s approval figure.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 31st, 2012
12:23 pm
williebkind — “You sure are funny! Every thing you wrote is a typical drive by liberal rant.”
And yet I’m not a drive-by, I’m a regular.
Refute it if you can, Cowboy. (laughing, pointing)
Stevie Ray
January 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
GETALIFE,
No but I should..the telecom folks buttered GOP and DEMS bread to remain above the law….it is sickening….The most disgusting is Goldman’s revolving door appointments who get appointed to DC posts, push financial legislation beneficial to Goldman, then return to Goldman for the new found wind falls…
Butch Cassidy
January 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
So I heard Gretchen Carlson say that the only reason Romney is winning in Florida is because he has more money to spend. Anyone have any thoughts as to what his strategy will be when he hits Obamas billion dollar war chest?
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:24 pm
lowering all taxes across the board spurs economic activity and will increase federal revenue……after bush’s tax cuts we had 52 straight months of job growth which was the longest streak on record…….libs try to bury that fact under the job losses that started with the housing collapse that was triggered by gov’t, private sector and GSE’s
JOE Cool (I'm Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
January 31st, 2012
12:25 pm
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:20 pm
i didnt think so…. only 1.5 or so of that is NEW! The rest rolled over from you know, things like WAR, Tax Cuts, etc.already enacted by GW.
md
January 31st, 2012
12:25 pm
“I was referring to the CBO report that came out in the last hour in the AJC. Didn’t see anything about government workers…….”
Well…..try some one stop shopping then:
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:25 pm
“Photos Of Osama Bin Laden’s Death May Be Released” Aol
October surprise.
Check mate.
williebkind
January 31st, 2012
12:26 pm
Jay:
“Because the basic notion that broad segments of the American people have rejected Obama and his politics is simply incorrect.”
Yeah Obama has all the Catholics voting for him.
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:26 pm
butch, now focus on my point
Stevie Ray
January 31st, 2012
12:26 pm
FINN,
Disagree. One thing the goverment doesnt understand is insurance…see Freddie
Fannie, see SS, medicare, medicaid, federal flood etcetera. Just met with a client yesterday with 45,000 employees..costs to add kids to 26 and pre-existing increased their costs $8 millon per year…really and truly…
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
January 31st, 2012
12:26 pm
Where was the Tea party when american soldiers were sent to battle without the proper equipment?
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:28 pm
joe,
it’s bush’s fault…..keep talking like that….PLEASE
ByteMe
January 31st, 2012
12:28 pm
after bush’s tax cuts we had 52 straight months of job growth which was the longest streak on record
average business cycle is 3-4 years. 52 months is … just over 4 years. I’d say that the trillion dollar deficits didn’t buy us enough.
Kamchak
January 31st, 2012
12:28 pm
lowering all taxes across the board spurs economic activity and will increase federal revenue…
Supply-side, laissez-faire, trickle-on phlogiston Econ 101 alchemy with an expiration date.
We’ve had thirty years of that in the refrigerator and it’s stinking up the house.
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
IABF,
your not helping yourself……..keep talking
ByteMe
January 31st, 2012
12:29 pm
costs to add kids to 26 and pre-existing increased their costs $8 millon per year
Only if they also cover kids as part of their coverage. Most companies don’t, but they let the employee pay for it.
As opposed to before, when some people couldn’t buy any at all because of “pre-existing conditions”.
Doggone/GA
January 31st, 2012
12:30 pm
“The same law that your wicked beast Pelosi said pass it to know what is in it.”
Nope, she never said that
AmVet
January 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
To Jay’s earlier point about the angle of the dangle and endless other childish excuses, given my writings, it is obviously cause for me to celebrate when neo-cons lose.
But where is it writen that they must always be such sore losers?
And come November we are going to see their losing ugliness go through the roof. Again.
Get some decent, reasonable candidates if you want to stop these ugly defeats…
Welcome to the Occupation
January 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
..lowering all taxes across the board spurs economic activity and will increase federal revenue…
One word: 2008
Two more words: Lehman Brothers
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
hussein spent a trillion and lost 2,000,000 more jobs and shrank the universe of jobs by 2,000,000 more…….you lose…….central gov’t planning from the white house is out the door in nov
Joe Hussein Mama
January 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
billybob — “your not helping yourself……..”
Actually, he is.
Let’s not forget who sent troops to the WRONG COUNTRY, who sent them in ill-equipped and who FAILED to get the architect of 9/11.
You want him to continue talking about things like that? Good. We are agreed. I want him to keep talking about things like that, too.
The GOP has a crap track record with the economy, the military and in plenty of other areas since the 2000 election. And now is an EXCELLENT time to start reminding Americans about it.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
January 31st, 2012
12:32 pm
client yesterday with 45,000 employees..costs to add kids to 26 and pre-existing increased their costs $8 millon per year
If they can’t run their business profitably, it’s time to close the doors. Managers need to step up and manage.
md
January 31st, 2012
12:33 pm
I don’t think skimming kids with student loans would be a wise choice for an accomplishment…….fed funds rate sitting @ .25% and the original loans “offered” at 7%? Granted, some are now down to the 3% range, but not for consolidation loans etc………
The good part may be that the kids for the most part are too oblivious to know they’ve been skimmed………….
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:33 pm
free market vs central gov’t planning and socialism people…….almost time to choose out in the open……can’t wait
Curious Observer
January 31st, 2012
12:33 pm
Just a question, any of you liberal Obama supporters ever serve in the military? Serious response only, please?
Yep. USMC. Four years of active duty. And I toted a rifle. It wasn’t a cushy USAF job. Any other questions?
Butch Cassidy
January 31st, 2012
12:33 pm
md – “Well…..try some one stop shopping then:”
Thanks for the link, interesting read.
Differences between the average compensation of employees of the federal government and that of private-sector employees varied significantly by level of education. As shown in the table below:
•Among people with a high school diploma or less education, or whose education culminated in a bachelor’s degree, the total cost of compensation, on average, was higher for federal workers than for similar workers in the private sector, after accounting for differences in demographic factors and in certain characteristics of their jobs.
•By contrast, among people with a professional degree or Ph.D., total compensation costs were lower for federal employees than for similar private-sector employees, on average.
•Differences between the government and the private sector in the average costs of benefits were much greater than the differences in the average wages.
However, even within groups of workers who have similar characteristics, the average differences in compensation between federal and private-sector employees do not indicate whether particular federal employees would receive more or less compensation in the private sector.
RB from Gwinnett
January 31st, 2012
12:35 pm
How far off were ALL of the polls in South Carolina last week? The ones I heard the day before the primary had Newt up 2-3 points. What was the actual margin again?
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:35 pm
JHM,
hussein is pres and has been for over 3 years…..seems to me trying to sweep his record under the rug and go back about 12 years and blame someone else for hussein’s failures will be a loser in the fall, but please try that
Peter
January 31st, 2012
12:35 pm
I guess this is the type of person a Religious Republican will vote for….. Newt Gingrich.
Dillard found a quiet spot along a sidewalk lined with tiny American flags and held up his sign. Little did he know, Newt Gingrich had chosen that very spot to make his first Primary Day campaign stop.
When Gingrich’s bus pulled up, Dillard stood silently holding his sign and watched the news-media horde swamp the candidate. Gingrich stepped down from the bus and made a beeline for Dillard. He stopped in front of Dillard and his sign and parked himself for a round of handshaking and pictures with voters. The placement couldn’t have been worse. There was Gingrich, standing with his wife Callista at their first event of the day, and a giant Ron Paul sign floated inches from their crowns.
Noticing the awkward optics, Gingrich aides and security personnel swarmed Dillard, trying to intimidate him into moving. One of Gingrich’s security agents stepped in front of him. When Dillard didn’t budge, the agent lifted his heeled shoe over Dillard’s bare foot and dug the back of it into his skin, twisting it side-to-side like he was stomping out a cigarette. Shocked, Dillard kept his ground and took a picture of the agent with his phone, which was quickly knocked out of his hand. Dillard slipped off his flip-flop to pick up the phone with his foot, and a Gingrich supporter kicked the sandal away.
The Truth
January 31st, 2012
12:35 pm
Just a question, any of you right-wing chickenhawk GOP supporters ever serve in the military? Serious response only, please?
JOE Cool (I'm Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
January 31st, 2012
12:37 pm
“after bush’s tax cuts we had 52 straight months of job growth which was the longest streak on record”
Not intended to be factual.
JOE Cool (I'm Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
January 31st, 2012
12:39 pm
Billybob
January 31st, 2012
12:28 pm
How long does it take to start to recover from a deep recession?
md
January 31st, 2012
12:39 pm
“Not likely. They’ve been quietly implementing it since the day it was signed. At this point, it would cost us MORE to stop it than to see it through.”
may want to revisit that comment……the States are in stall mode, as they do not have the money to implement it……hence the court battle.
If it does go through, look for the States to have major problems…..especially those that require balanced budgets…….those unintended consequences may hurt more than the rising cost of hc.
Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)
January 31st, 2012
12:40 pm
How come you only see those “Bend Over Here Comes the Change” bumper stickers on macho redneck pickup trucks?
hmmmm…..
Joe Hussein Mama
January 31st, 2012
12:40 pm
billybob — “JHM, hussein is pres and has been for over 3 years…..seems to me trying to sweep his record under the rug”
I and many other posters here are more than happy to talk about the successes that President Obama has enjoyed. Would you like to have them posted again in this thread?
“and go back about 12 years and blame someone else for hussein’s failures”
Clearly you failed to read. Bush’s failures don’t reflect on Obama. Bush failed to get OBL, but Obama succeeded. Maybe you weren’t aware of that. Bush foolishly sent our troops to Iraq when OBL was actually in Afghanistan. Fortunately, Obama has gotten our brave men and women out of Iraq and got OBL as well. Also, we haven’t had any more large jetliners flown into skyscrapers since the Bush Administration.
Obama *succeeded* in many areas where Bush failed. And that’s a fact.
“will be a loser in the fall, but please try that”
I look forward to President Obama reminding voters of his successes and the GOPs failures, and I look forward to his second term.
AmVet
January 31st, 2012
12:40 pm
The Truth, by a HUGE percentage the answer is no.
They’re pretty much all good little Cheney clones who had “priorities other than military service.”
But they had zero problems cheering on the deadly dunces who got thousands of other people’s kids heads blown off needlessly.
In fact, they loved it. It assuaged their vicarious bloodlust for a few years…
Gary Donehoo
January 31st, 2012
12:42 pm
Bull hocky. I just checked Rasmussen and obama shows -13. If you can read a graph, or simply read, you’ll see this 51% is false. But when did facts matter to liberals?
Open Lib
January 31st, 2012
12:44 pm
So adding some children with pre-existing conditions and some post college aged kids added 8mm?
Liar.
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
Wheeee look at the cons spin it.
Jay just posts about our President and they flock here to lie.
Nice thread Jay.
Newt's divorce lawyer...........still working
January 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
JKL2
January 31st, 2012
12:02 pm
byte me- Let’s be completely honest here. You’re full of crap and can’t back up your statistics with links to real sources
His numbers may not be accurate but his theory is.
In theory, newborn babies are delivered by storks.
Tom(Independent)
January 31st, 2012
12:45 pm
getalife@12:04 – I personally would like to see elimination of state and federal taxes. Then we could raise the sales tax where everyone(even the 47-50% group) would have to pay something? Everyone should have to pay something, even if it is a small amount to live in the USA.
Stevie Ray
January 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
FINN & BYTEME,
The subject client is one of the leading senior care providers in the country and exceptionally well run…especially considering they get 65% of revenue from medicaid and the balance from Medicare and private pay. The big squeeze is on…the $8 plus million was direct cash expense and not related to how the business is run. Utilization is going thru the roof bc folks who haven’t had HC in the past will abuse it…these large employers are largely self insured so the dollars are real….I work with many, many fortune companies and not a one has not taken a 5-15% inncrease in self insured obligations as result of just these two diddies…
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:47 pm
tom,
Nice flip flop.
willard fan?
JOE Cool (I'm Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
January 31st, 2012
12:48 pm
client yesterday with 45,000 employees..costs to add kids to 26 and pre-existing increased their
costs $8 millon per year”
Soooooo, you telling me company with 45,000 employees cant afford an extra $177 per employee.
Kamchak
January 31st, 2012
12:49 pm
If you can read a graph, or simply read, you’ll see this 51% is false.
Did you happen to notice those bright blue words in Jay’s piece?
That is a link to the Ragamuffin site, and clearly, at the top of that long list in the total approve column is 51%.
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:50 pm
“Save the billionaires!” Thomas Jefferson.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 31st, 2012
12:50 pm
BillyBob: “free market vs central gov’t planning and socialism people…….almost time to choose out in the open……can’t wait”
If you think that’s what the choices are here, then you are truly misinformed my friend.
Adam
January 31st, 2012
12:51 pm
His numbers may not be accurate but his theory is.
This sounds like “He’s been consistent since he changed his mind.”
JOE Cool (I'm Voting 2x or 3x For MESSIAH OBAMA)
January 31st, 2012
12:52 pm
Kamchak
January 31st, 2012
12:49 pm
You know CONs and numbers dont go together.
blue_unicorn
January 31st, 2012
12:53 pm
“Nice thread Jay.”
Really? Title say Rasmussen, and he poots a Gallup poll? Cut/paste ‘journalism’ isn’t that hard. Obama is -13% today on Rasmussen.
YOUR party SUCKS! But MINE is GRRRRRREAT! (formerly That Black Guy)
January 31st, 2012
12:53 pm
Adam
January 31st, 2012
8:31 am
It won’t stop the nutballs from thinking people DO worship him, perhaps mostly because the deification of Presidents is in the conservative DNA and they just can’t fathom why other people don’t think like that.
Maybe, SOME do.
EVAN THOMAS: “I mean in a way Obama’s standing above the country, above above the world, he’s sort of God.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/06/05/newsweek_editor_evan_thomas_obama_is_sort_of_god.html
getalife
January 31st, 2012
12:54 pm
Told ya facts don’t matter this cycle because the cons decided to ignore them.
President Obama’s accomplishments ignored.
rasmussen poll ignored.
How is the weather in la la land today cons?
BeeJay
January 31st, 2012
12:54 pm
If this is what Jay Bookman calls a “surge,” I’d like to see what he calls a deluge. Obama’s approval rating hasn’t been as high as either of the Bush’s YET, or Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Ford…FORD! Obama is a loser. So is Jay Bookman.
Stevie Ray
January 31st, 2012
12:54 pm
JOE,
Not when 90% of revenue is Medicare and Medicaid which is subject to huge cuts….Remember also that this is current year number without escalator…not sure how many of you read SEC filings but they are worth a look see especially for the largest employers…risk factors are requirement an usually included on opening page…when the 117 dollars escalates, it will likely become evident that the less well run companies will opt simply to pay the penalty and not offer coverage…..that will be a debacle for your pal…
ByteMe
January 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
The subject client is one of the leading senior care providers in the country and exceptionally well run
I didn’t say they weren’t. I’m saying that the vast majority of company-provided plans do NOT include full coverage for kids unless the employee wishes to purchase that through the employer. You haven’t commented on whether that is the case in this situation or not. Or did you by saying this employer is “self-insured”, in which case, they should consider re-looking at the need to include kid coverage in compensation packages.
Obama is over
January 31st, 2012
12:55 pm
Obama’s recent surge in the Rasmussen polls is a result of negative opinion generated by the endless GOP debates and Obama taking credit for the rescue of kidnapped victims in Somalia by the Navy Seals.The Obama team learned from their last spike in popularity after the Bin Laden assasination that associating the administration with special ops missions generates a great deal of positive press. Of course, anyone with a sense of history is aware that it is illegal for military personel to discuss the classified activities of our special forces. To quote a decorated Navy Seal, Leif Babin, in today’s WSJ:” It is infuriating to see political gain put above the safety and security of brave warriors and our long term strategic goals. Loose lips sink ships.” Michael Barone from the Rasmussen site pointed out in his commentary that Obama’s main weakness became apparant in the State of the Union Address: issues. Once the Republican nominee is selected, Obama will have to defend his track record regarding the Fast and Furious scandal, the disastrous Energy Dept. loan programs,Keystone, and the inability to generate growth in the economy from anything other than Government spending. I respectfully disagree with your contention that Americans are accepting the Obama agenda. Americans want specific detailed solutions to solve the problems facing us. Waxing poetic about income inequality, evil corporate jet owners, and casting a blind eye towards the pending demographic tsunami coming to our entitltement programs simply will not cut it. Obama is going to have to eventually be held accountable for his track record and there is not much to support any meaningful argument.