What biology teaches about the GOP predicament

The biggest unanswered question revolving around the 2012 GOP presidential campaign is why?

Why is the field so lackluster? Why does it consist of Mitt Romney, a mediocre candidate whom much of the party continues to reject, running against a variety of unacceptable alternatives? I mean, when a man with as much baggage as Newt Gingrich remains viable this late in the process, it suggests a major leadership vacuum in the party.

As Democratic consultant Paul Begala writes today in the Daily Beast, “When I look at the economy, I think Obama can’t win, but when I look at the Republicans, I think he can’t lose.”

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So what’s the explanation? Why, at a moment of great opportunity, has the party fielded such weak candidates?

To answer that question, it may be useful to import a concept from biology called “genetic diversity.” According to science, species that boast a wide range of genetic diversity, with a lot of variation, are generally healthier and more robust than species in which genetic diversity is restricted. In the field and in the lab, researchers have found that genetically diverse populations can fend off illnesses more easily and can adapt quickly to changing conditions; genetically similar populations find it much more difficult to respond to such challenges.

Genetic diversity explains why mongrels claimed from the humane society tend to be more hardy than their purebred cousins. It’s also why monoculture agriculture, in which vast swaths of farmland are planted in one genetically identical crop, is extremely vulnerable to pests and disease.

I would argue that by rejecting ideological variation and pursuing purity, the Republican Party has turned itself into a political monoculture that is unable to respond well to changed conditions. And as we’ve seen, by insisting that the most important test of a leader is his or her willingness to abide by a pre-ordained orthodoxy, they tend to produce a leadership class that shies away from creativity, imagination and innovation.

We’ve all seen that process at work. Any scent of heretical thought or deviation among Republicans is quickly sniffed out, its source ostracized as a RINO, or Republican In Name Only. The conservative media serves to enforce that orthodoxy, its power and profitability depending on its ability to punish those who might stray. Over time, the strain of acceptable conservative thought has become more and more pure, to the point that today Ronald Reagan himself would be dismissed as a RINO.

In stark contrast, the Democrats have no real counterpart to the concept of RINO, and they do not consider the term “moderate” to be a deadly epithet, as it is among Republicans. Depending on the state or district, it can in fact be a label to be embraced. They lack a sternly enforced party discipline and orthodoxy, and the truth is that their “squishiness” has significant drawbacks.

For example, Democrats in Congress rarely produce the unanimous party-line votes that allow Republicans to get maximum leverage from their numbers. And while Democrats tend to speak in a jumbled cacophony, their GOP opponents speak one clear message to the voters from many voices. The result is that “Republican” is a sharply defined brand, while “Democrat” is much more amorphous.

According to biologists, a lack of genetic diversity becomes a particular problem in times of great change, when adaptability is at a premium. And I would argue that in politics, this is one of those times. What we thought we knew about this world and this country no longer applies. The environment has changed dramatically, and those quickest to adapt and experiment are those most likely to succeed.

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The Republican Party, however, cannot bring itself to admit that capitalism unbound can lead to dangerous excesses; its ideology insists that capitalism has no faults whatsoever, and that any or all failings of the system can be attributed to imperfections imposed on capitalism by government.

Likewise, it cannot acknowledge that the ever-increasing share of wealth accruing to the richest of Americans poses economic, moral and social challenges to this country. And if they cannot admit the existence of a problem, they certainly cannot propose conservative approaches to address it.

Those beliefs have become increasingly difficult to defend in light of the events of the past five years. Yet the GOP is unable to bring itself to adapt to this changed environment.

Earlier in the primary season, Jon Huntsman tried to challenge the Republican orthodoxy head-on and was predictably brushed aside as a RINO. In his own unique fashion, the ever-rebellious Gingrich is trying to do the same, but through a more guerrilla-type approach.

With his attacks on Romney as a symbol of capitalism run amok, Newt is attempting to inject a needed degree of ideological variation into the intra-party debate. Sure, he’s doing so purely out of self-interest — he’s Newt Gingrich, after all — but that’s how the process works. Like any opportunistic predator, he sees weakness and is trying to attack it.

Given all that, the ferociousness of the counterattack against Gingrich is hardly surprising. He portrays himself as a threat to the GOP establishment, and the establishment sees him that way as well. And if the Republican Party goes on to do poorly in this election cycle, I suspect that Gingrich will get a lot of the blame, at least initially, from his fellow Republicans.

But in the end, he’s doing his party a favor.

– Jay Bookman

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St Simons - codewords are the new black

January 30th, 2012
12:00 pm

you could also argue that the Republicans are picking Mittens,
the ultimate evolutionary chameleon, ’cause they potentially see their
own extinction.

anything, anything to make the commercials stop
they will stop tomorrow, won’t they?

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 30th, 2012
12:00 pm

There is no question that the Democratic Party has fringe elements to it.

The much more pressing question being, is the entire GOP a fringe element?

Fedup

January 30th, 2012
12:01 pm

Romney reminds me that exgovernor who ran against Bush 1. He was also always shifting his position on everything and got clobbered by Bush. All Romney has to do is put on a helmet and ride around in a tank. Boy that will be a sight.

Eric

January 30th, 2012
12:01 pm

Roger Goodell, last night on 60 Minutes, said that the revenue-sharing model that the NFL is built on is partly Socialist, partly Capitalist. It was also said that the only two entities in the USA that have a license to print money are the Federal Reserve and the NFL. Further, it was stated that the 32 owners of an NFL franchise are the cream of the crop of intellectual giants in this country. OK, so, if the smartest most money-desiring folks in the whole country are embracing a socialism/capitalism model for their PROFITS, what in the HELL is so wrong with the idea?

Doggone/GA

January 30th, 2012
12:03 pm

“if the smartest most money-desiring folks in the whole country are embracing a socialism/capitalism model for their PROFITS, what in the HELL is so wrong with the idea?”

There doesn’t really have to be anything wrong with it. It’s just that “communist” has lost it’s sting and they’re still searching for something, ANYthing to replace it.

mm

January 30th, 2012
12:05 pm

“Didn’t know you were in the OWS…”

Why do you righties continue to put these protestors down, yet continually obsess about them?

getalife

January 30th, 2012
12:06 pm

The cons lied and said the OWS movement was over.

The cons have never been right about anything.

Yet, they come here to get ridiculed everyday.

(ir)Rational

January 30th, 2012
12:07 pm

Adam – I’m not arguing that it is best solution, having virtually all of our circuit boards built in China. I’m just saying there isn’t really, or rather shouldn’t be, anything the government can do about it. The companies producing these products typically aren’t producing them for government work, so they shouldn’t fall under any regulations from the government about where they can procure their parts. I have several friends that work in the electronics and defense type sectors that all produce everything either in house, or go to labs/factories in the US. They have no choice as the products they’re working with are typically secretive in nature. Also, they tell me they have to tell certain people if they plan to travel to countries whose names end in “stan” or “ina.” I realize that is a little off topic, but it is related in my mind. Companies that produce goods being bought/used by the federal government are rightfully under strict restrictions about where the products they’re producing/providing come from. Companies that are producing goods for the American (and in most cases worldwide) consumer, should only be restricted by what people will buy, not by the government or a people who feel they have a “duty” to bring jobs to their country.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 30th, 2012
12:07 pm

Hi Fred!

That guy is fantastic! Haven’t seen him since shortly after the Obama election. He’s got Obama down to a T, nobody else I’ve seen even comes close.

Doggone/GA

January 30th, 2012
12:07 pm

“Yet, they come here to get ridiculed everyday”

And the best part is that they THINK they’re here to ridicule others

Peadawg

January 30th, 2012
12:07 pm

“Why do you righties continue to put these protestors down, yet continually obsess about them?”

Same thing could be said about lefties and the Tea Party, sport.

Fred

January 30th, 2012
12:09 pm

Paul: I’m very well acquainted with Mormons thank you for your concern though.

Paul

January 30th, 2012
12:09 pm

getalife

“The cons lied and said the OWS movement was over.”

That was before Newt made OWS talking points part of his campaign -

Eric

January 30th, 2012
12:09 pm

For those of you who don’t get it, it’s the TV money that grows the NFL. Creating parity in the league is paramount to keep you watching (betting)! If NY always beat Arizona, why would Arizona keep fielding a team? A: Revenue sharing. The owners understand which side their bread is buttered on. Why does the Republican base insist that a mixture of socialism to reign in the excesses of capitalism is bad, when the very model of success that they bow toward every Sunday lead us to believe the opposite. Could it be intellectual dishonesty?

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 30th, 2012
12:10 pm

You can listen to Boortz, Hannity, Limbaugh and the rest and never hear a divergent thought or opinion.

Precisely, willie!

Dissent is NOT tolerated. Differing opinions are squashed. (Just ask George “Go it alone” Bush.)

And these freeloaders and frauds on the monaural airwaves are among the most deified of the faux conservative oracles.

And that unvarying, immutable message is parroted here endlessly.

I would argue that JKL2 has an American right to be mad as hell. Take a good look around and see what the realities are now. The Thirty Year War on the Middle Class has been staggeringly successful. (Oops is that class warfare? LOL. Or is just a variation of Mission Accomplished?)

I would contend that he needs to look closer at who exactly has caused his dissatisfaction…

Jm

January 30th, 2012
12:10 pm

Jay 11

So now jay’s a biologist

Hilarious

Paul

January 30th, 2012
12:10 pm

Fred

No concern. You asked a question and I offered an answer.

ByteMe

January 30th, 2012
12:11 pm

I’m not arguing that it is best solution, having virtually all of our circuit boards built in China. I’m just saying there isn’t really, or rather shouldn’t be, anything the government can do about it.

Actually, there is. China, through its monentary policy of maintaining a relatively fixed relationship between the dollar and their currency, has engaged in a covert trade war. We can and should fight back until they agree to let their currency float. Yes, our stuff will cost more in the short-term, but that is a price we should be willing to pay to improve our own economic engine.

Paul

January 30th, 2012
12:11 pm

Fred

Didn’t mean that to sound snippy -

(ir)Rational

January 30th, 2012
12:13 pm

ByteMe – That may be so, but I don’t see government as the solution for everything. Actually, there is almost nothing I see the government as a solution to.

Citizen of the World

January 30th, 2012
12:14 pm

YES! WHAT JAY SAID!!!

(This is the first time in my life I’ve used more than one exclamation point at a time.)

Adam

January 30th, 2012
12:14 pm

Jm’s 11:10a rephrased:

LOOK AT ME JAY! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEEE!

JKL2

January 30th, 2012
12:14 pm

Fred- after losing to a very beatable President Bush that the Democrats managed to do a better job than the republicans of pushing the fanatics back into the closet, or to the back of the bus at least, not put them in the drivers seat…….

Pelosi, Reid, obama–I would tend to say the opposite. The wingnuts have taken over and now anyone on the right is “extreme” because the goal post has been moved so far left.

Adam

January 30th, 2012
12:14 pm

Rather 12:10 p, sorry Jm. Gotta get the time right.

sam

January 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

if there were a shift ‘rightward’ in the democrat party, woulndt that be led by or least benefit the ‘blue dogs’? how would that push them out?

Jefferson

January 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

Greedy vs Idealists.

(ir)Rational

January 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

Oh, and ByteMe, as far as China is concerned. With as much of our debt as they’re carrying, it may not be the smartest solution in the world to start a trade war with them. You know, kind of a “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” type thing.

Adam

January 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

JKL2: The wingnuts have taken over and now anyone on the right is “extreme” because the goal post has been moved so far left.

So much BS. The goal post has moved RIGHT and nearly everyone who was moderate is either in the Democratic Party or feels left out.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

Peadawg — “Same thing could be said about lefties and the Tea Party, sport.”

I’ve never once said that the Tea Partiers shouldn’t be allowed to assemble, nor have I made fun of their clothes, their hair or their personal hygiene. Yet our righty friends and associates criticize those things about OWS every day.

I don’t agree with the Tea Partiers, but that doesn’t mean that they have no right to assemble and complain. Maybe the righties need to be reminded that that applies to OWS, too.

Paul

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

This presents a factor to be considered: from the Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University.

“Frontrunner Mitt Romney is getting by far the most negative press of the GOP field, according to a new study of television news coverage by the Center for Media and Public Affairs at George Mason University. The study also found that the campaign horse race is getting over six times as much coverage as the candidates’ positions on policy issues. According to CMPA director and George Mason University professor Robert Lichter, “The media love a horse race and hate a frontrunner.””

“Mitt Romney was the only major candidate to receive a majority of negative evaluations by sources and reporters, on both the broadcast network nightly news and FOX “Special Report.”

“the various networks differed sharply from one another in their combined evaluations of the entire Republican field. A majority of all candidate evaluations aired on CBS and FOX were positive, while comments were 3 to 1 negative on NBC and 2 to 1 negative on ABC.

“CBS had the most positive portrayals — 57% positive vs. 43% negative, partly because of its highly favorable (89% positive) evaluations of Ron Paul. FOX had the most balanced overall coverage with 52% positive vs. 48% negative comments. NBC was the most negative overall with 27% positive vs. 73% negative coverage, followed closely by ABC with 32% positive vs. 68% negative coverage. Both NBC and ABC featured 85% negative comments on Romney. ”

Seems it’s not only the con talkshow guys who have a $$$ interest in manufacturing attitudes.

getalife

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

Paul,

Good point.

The cons think the newt is anti establishment but he is in the establishment like willard.

One man can’t change corrupt congress that is firmly in bed with the establishment.

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

anything, anything to make the commercials stop
they will stop tomorrow, won’t they?

St Simons, at least they should die down a bit after the GOP mud wrestling matches end.

BTW, love your new moniker. Funny and true.

pat

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

I forgot the whole occupy thing was still happening. I thought those loses finally went home. Personally, I’d much rather camp in the mountains.
How do you sustain so long with out working?? That is just amazing to me.

Aquagirl

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

So now jay’s a biologist

No, he just knows more about Biology than you do.

Considering the average science-phobic conservative, that’s not saying much. Teaching 2+2=4 does not require a degree in mathematics either.

Wild Eyes

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

(ir)Rational: “Companies that are producing goods for the American (and in most cases worldwide) consumer, should only be restricted by what people will buy, not by the government or a people who feel they have a “duty” to bring jobs to their country.” – So, the government should sit by and do nothing when a company imports and sells tainted to the US consumer because the items are not bought by the government?

ty webb

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

I simply come here to read columns and comments which give me an idea of what it would be like to go through life without a functioning brain…and I feel better about myself after I leave each day. It’s sorta like a daily affirmation, and for that, I’m so thankful.

Eric

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

Rosalind Capital—–get your Gold in ten (10) days or less! Where’s the capitalism in that? If I pay for my gold (which is the biggest scam in the history of scams (sorry Charles Barkley), you better bring it to me today! What a joke. BTW, where’s Glenn Beck when you need him?!

Paul

January 30th, 2012
12:16 pm

barking frog

January 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

If nothing changes Romney will win the Presidency in November,
if you believe the polls.

ragnar danneskjold

January 30th, 2012
12:17 pm

Certainly purity of policy-making would explain the great Congressional failures from 2007-2011. That consistent “Republicans can sit in the back seat” attitude would explain the wholesale failure of Obama since 2009. Maybe Jay is on to something here.

pat

January 30th, 2012
12:19 pm

We pretty much already know who the media is pulling for. If you put an atheistic mega-lib on a podium, they would practically crap themselves with joy.

Eric

January 30th, 2012
12:19 pm

Ragnar—you are fictional. Go away!

Adam

January 30th, 2012
12:20 pm

ty: I simply come here to read columns and comments which give me an idea of what it would be like to go through life without a functioning brain

Or you could just write your own opinion, reread it, and then come to the same result.

(ir)Rational

January 30th, 2012
12:20 pm

As far as the left vs right argument. I would say, with the past few elections, that the country has become more polarized. With more conservative democrats being pushed out of office in the 2010 elections by republicans that were either similar, or more likely far right in comparison. Leaving the majority of the Congress either far right or far left. Those on the far left were much less likely to lose their seat in the last election simply because they represent districts that were already farther to the left. The Blue Dogs/moderates in each party were likely pushed out as a reactionary public pushed back against bills they didn’t like. In my opinion, and it seems to make sense, this has caused the Congress to become polarized leaving very little in the middle.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 30th, 2012
12:20 pm

sam: “if there were a shift ‘rightward’ in the democrat party, woulndt that be led by or least benefit the ‘blue dogs’? how would that push them out?”

The shift rightward is occurring across the entire political “spectrum”. The spectrum itself is shifting – that’s the point.

As for the Blue Dog group’s shrinkage, one reason for it may be that the party as a whole is contracting. In almost every single case they were swept out by Republican Tea Party candidates. So the shift benefited the Republicans and the Dems lost seats. Time will tell what replaces them when the Dems regain some of its lost numbers. But it’s far from a given that future new Dems will be to the left of the departed Blue Dogs.

Eric

January 30th, 2012
12:20 pm

Pat-Qu’est que ce “mega-lib”? You dont sleep much, do you?

barking frog

January 30th, 2012
12:21 pm

Aquagirl, 12:16, Teaching 2+2=4 does not require a degree in mathematics either

Actually in most school systems it does.

Bill Orvis White

January 30th, 2012
12:21 pm

This is just another one of those hit pieces on an honorable candidate who has the ability to beat Barack Hussein Obama come this November. Willard “Mitt” Romney is an exciting candidate with hardscrabble beginnings rooted in a hard work ethic and a dedication to the Lord Almighty (in his honorable family’s own special way). Governor Romney made his dollar$ the old fashioned way by earning it all by himself. I, for one, am inspired and am in awe of a man of such fine moral integrity. WE THE PEOPLE will not be deterred by language that has been employed in “pieces” such as this on such a slanted lefty blog.
Amen,
Bill

Recon 2533 1811

January 30th, 2012
12:21 pm

Some on here are either in complete denial or need a history lesson. It was common knowledge that Nancy Pelosi as House Speaker was at odds with the Blue Dog coalition but succeeded in beating them into submission where they caved in and voted with her 80% of the time. That Blue Dog voting record got many of them creamed in the 010 national election. The Democrats shot themselves in the foot and lost the House. The takeover of the Democrat party by the far-left is an inconvenient truth that only the far-left denies.

carlosgvv

January 30th, 2012
12:22 pm

It’s clear that the days of FDR, Truman, Ike and JFK are long gone. I’m guessing there are two main reasons:

1. With every passing year, America becomes more and more dumbed down
2. Politics has become so dirt road brutal, most decent potential candidates want no part of it

I might add that if non-religious candidates are ever accepted by the people, the quality of our politicians will improve considerably.

ty webb

January 30th, 2012
12:22 pm

and one of my heartiest “thank you”’s goes out to “Adam”.

Fred

January 30th, 2012
12:22 pm

@Welcome to the Occupation: He may have fallen out of favor. He did some “off color” jokes at a Republican convention in New Orleans. I watch but I didn’t see anything I found offensive. Maybe I need to go to sensitivity training or something though…………

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/44/post/obama-impersonator-makes-racial-gay-jokes-at-gop-gathering/2011/06/18/AGVLAUaH_blog.html

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 30th, 2012
12:22 pm

Can someone here name the tiny few moderate Republicans in Washington?

I believe there are exactly six.

Six out of 242.

A whopping 2.5%.

Ergo, 97.5% of all of the cons in DC are immoderate.

And some wonder why nothing of substance ever gets done on behalf of we the people?

Adam

January 30th, 2012
12:22 pm

barking frog: Actually in most school systems it does.

This is true, most often a Master’s degree is required. And some people complain when a teacher makes a salary of 50k.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 30th, 2012
12:23 pm

JKL2 — “Pelosi, Reid, obama–I would tend to say the opposite. The wingnuts have taken over and now anyone on the right is “extreme” because the goal post has been moved so far left.”

Ridiculous. President Obama’s been *much* friendlier to business interests than to the left wing of his party; even his big-wet-kiss-to-health-insurers of a Health Care Act upset his base. The notion that lefties are in charge is nothing more than unsupported hyperbole for the uninformed and inattentive.

(ir)Rational

January 30th, 2012
12:23 pm

Wild Eyes – Well, considering we were talking about whether the government should be able to force private corporations to move manufacturing facilities into the US simply because Americans feel they have some sort of proprietary right to certain companies, your rebuttal makes practically no sense.

getalife

January 30th, 2012
12:23 pm

Bill,

Thanks for using his real name.

willard leads the rats.

sam

January 30th, 2012
12:23 pm

the thoughts of a rational, think for yourself, fully functioning brain that the rest of us could only be so lucky to attain to….

“I don’t recall Jay’s writing this when the dem’s put up plagiarizing crazy uncle, a lying race pimp, a Jr. Senator from illiinois, and a paranoid(vast right wing conspiracy?)wife of a serial philanderer, and a cheating ambulance chaser with nice hair…oh, and Dennis Kucinich, in 2008.

ByteMe

January 30th, 2012
12:24 pm

With as much of our debt as they’re carrying, it may not be the smartest solution in the world to start a trade war with them.

Last number I saw was that it was less than 7% of our outstanding debt, which isn’t much relatively speaking. It’s myth they own us.

Also, if you think about it, if someone owes you $20, it’s their problem, but if they owe you a million dollars, it’s your problem. Our relationship with China is similar.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 30th, 2012
12:24 pm

pat: “We pretty much already know who the media is pulling for. If you put an atheistic mega-lib on a podium, they would practically crap themselves with joy”

Of all the things that have been said so far today, that is the most blatantly false of all.

Just two words in rebuttal that ought to put that ridiculous assertion to bed for the duration:

Howard Dean

Adam

January 30th, 2012
12:24 pm

AmVet: Is Scott Brown counted in that number? He got the Tea Party insurgency vote, but has since been somewhat moderate voting wise and in what he has pushed.

Eric

January 30th, 2012
12:24 pm

RECON. Thank you for your service. We will give you further orders. Until then, please refrain from expressing drivel. That is all.

Quick

January 30th, 2012
12:25 pm

In other words they are the banjo picker from Deliverance.

ty webb

January 30th, 2012
12:27 pm

sam, so it’s your contention that the 2008 democrat field wasn’t lackluster?

mm

January 30th, 2012
12:27 pm

“Same thing could be said about lefties and the Tea Party, sport.”

Wrong. OWS does not have a bunch of “my way or the highway” jerks in elected office.

” I’m just saying there isn’t really, or rather shouldn’t be, anything the government can do about it.”

Sure there is. Slap tariffs on anything coming into this country.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 30th, 2012
12:27 pm

Pat@12:16 “I forgot the whole occupy thing was still happening. I thought those loses finally went home. Personally, I’d much rather camp in the mountains.
How do you sustain so long with out working?? That is just amazing to me.”

They currently are throwing rocks, bottles, graffiti and vandalizing Oakland.

Paul

January 30th, 2012
12:28 pm

“Can someone here name the tiny few moderate Republicans in Washington?”

Nice trick question, AmVet. Impossible to answer. Now, if you had instead asked, “Can someone here name the tiny few RINOs in Washington?” I maybe could play -

barking frog

January 30th, 2012
12:30 pm

Jay-’Genetic diversity explains why mongrels claimed from the humane society tend to be more hardy than their purebred cousins.’

Is this the ‘mongrel’ the President used to describe himself?
Does it explain his ability to win the Presidency against all odds?

Fred

January 30th, 2012
12:31 pm

(ir)Rational

January 30th, 2012
12:15 pm

Oh, and ByteMe, as far as China is concerned. With as much of our debt as they’re carrying, it may not be the smartest solution in the world to start a trade war with them. You know, kind of a “don’t bite the hand that feeds you” type thing.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Really? So we quit allowing them to import anything intothis country and what happens? They will flood the Worldwide market with consumer goods using patents and trademarks that they have ripped off from America? Oh wait, they already do that. They will NOT have the 300+ billion dollars of American money we give them to pay off the debts they incur because they buy products from other Countries while stiffing us?

I don’t really see a down side. We are only “over the barrel” as long as we let them pretend they have us their. Or as long as people like you think we are…………… the truth of the matter is that they need us and our money more than we need them and their cheap crap. You mean Apple might have to settle for a little less than 1 BILLION dollars a week profit? Oh the horror. Imagine having to actually employ some Americans………..

They BOTH sucked

January 30th, 2012
12:31 pm

McCain voted with the Party over 90% of the time and because he was whipped in the election he was dubbed a RINO……..

sam

January 30th, 2012
12:31 pm

Occupation, you could look at it that way i suppose. over the course of history this is the way it goes. no one party has control of all 3 for very long. its how we police them, the only way at this point. the blue dogs and the tea party to a degree are similiar. fiscally conservative, socially liberal. so its not that big of a stretch to go from one to the other, and back again. problem with tea party is too rigid, cant govern that way, as you see, nothing gets done. good for tee shirts and placards, bad for the country.

Recon 2533 1811

January 30th, 2012
12:32 pm

I guess some on the blog believe that a moderate Republican is one who votes with the Democrats.

(ir)Rational

January 30th, 2012
12:32 pm

mm – That just doesn’t seem like a reasonable solution. Cause the price of everything in the US to rise, simply because you’re upset that companies are producing their goods in places other than the US? That’s what I mean by “shouldn’t” do anything about it. The jobs don’t belong to the government or the people of the United States. They belong to the companies.

Going to lunch. Y’all have fun.

sam

January 30th, 2012
12:33 pm

my contention is your statement was full of sh*t..

getalife

January 30th, 2012
12:33 pm

There are 99% of corrupt congress in bed with the establishment.

So, how can one man change this fact?

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 30th, 2012
12:34 pm

That is just amazing to me.

Willful ignorance often causes great amazement…

ty, are you going Charlie Sheen on us?

Adam, yes, along with Snowe, Collins, Murkowski, Kirk and Hoeven.

That’s all folks. The rest of the entire Republican congress is, to some major degree or another, rabid Bush-lites.

Perhaps pat and Steve will try to convince themselves that 97.5% of the protesters are engaged in violence.

They will write damn near anything to avoid the debating the merits and relevance of any given topic…

(ir)Rational

January 30th, 2012
12:35 pm

Fred – Like the 43,000 they already employ? The rest of your argument kinda makes no sense. Don’t start a trade war with China because they’re already producing cheap goods? I’m saying, what does the US do if we start a trade war with them, and they suddenly decide to call the debt we owe them due. Do we give them Hawaii and Alaska and hope they’re happy?

Goldie

January 30th, 2012
12:36 pm

“Yet the GOP is unable to bring itself to adapt to this changed environment.”

I think you hit that head-on, Jay — and the only change the GOP has supported for the past decade is “regime change” and their tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, which combined together has brought America into this economic abyss. Thank God we have President Obama to bring America back from the GOP brink of disaster! :)

Aquagirl

January 30th, 2012
12:37 pm

Six out of 242. A whopping 2.5%. Ergo, 97.5% of all of the cons in DC are immoderate.

Who knew AmVet had a degree in Mathematics? :)

ty webb

January 30th, 2012
12:37 pm

“my contention is your statement was full of sh*t..”

a mighty “thank you” for that one as well.

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 30th, 2012
12:37 pm

Del, I believe that a moderate Republican is one who is dentified by some reputable source as a being a moderate. (Silly me)

Perhaps you have some list of these many Republican moderates that I can’t find?

LOL…

St Simons - codewords are the new black

January 30th, 2012
12:37 pm

“The Republican Party, however, cannot bring itself to admit that capitalism unbound can lead to dangerous excesses; its ideology insists that capitalism has no faults whatsoever, and that any or all failings of the system can be attributed to imperfections imposed on capitalism by government.”

Ahhh, 1981
1) I was in college
2) ABBA was breaking up
3) and People believed that crap.

ty webb

January 30th, 2012
12:38 pm

Amvet,
Duh…winning!

Fred

January 30th, 2012
12:38 pm

JKL2: Pelosi, Reid, obama–I would tend to say the opposite. The wingnuts have taken over and now anyone on the right is “extreme” because the goal post has been moved so far left.

Reid and Pelosi were pushed, if not to the back then at least to the middle, after they orchestrated the amazing loss during the mid term elections. As for Obama? Seriously? Only someone severely mentally challenged or severely brain washed, or a fanatical Republican would call Obama
extreme.” He gets dogged all the time from the EXTREME left wingers for being too moderate.

Come on now. Think a little. Watch that humorous video I posted. There is more than a little grain of truth in it.

getalife

January 30th, 2012
12:39 pm

del is a partisan con talking about moderates.

Too funny.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 30th, 2012
12:40 pm

Completely forgot about that Fred. If I remember correctly, the Repubs who invited got more than they bargained for. :)

irrational:
“I’m not arguing that it is best solution, having virtually all of our circuit boards built in China. I’m just saying there isn’t really, or rather shouldn’t be, anything the government can do about it.”

As you would have learned had you done your homework and read Krugman last Friday (oh never mind), the most successful countries today economically are those with the best balance of trade numbers and those are ones that have maintained favorable SUPPLY CHAINS in their manufacturing, such as China (not a model for us to emulate) and Germany (perhaps an excellent model for us to emulate).

But today’s Ayn Rand-obsessed GOP is having nothing of it.

ByteMe

January 30th, 2012
12:40 pm

I’m saying, what does the US do if we start a trade war with them, and they suddenly decide to call the debt we owe them due.

Doesn’t work that way. They bought US Treasuries with a specific “call” date. This isn’t “on demand” debt, like money is “on demand” currency. It’s you hold it until the “call” date or sell it before that. So the worst they can do is sell it and flood the market with more treasuries (which the world wants even at ridiculously low rates). It’s not a loss to us.

sam

January 30th, 2012
12:40 pm

you’re very welcome , i’m off to play 18 with the dalai lama

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 30th, 2012
12:40 pm

Aquagirl, LOL!

I did great in the field of mathematics until college Calculus, and then went into moments of great self-doubt and despair. I talked to an engineer later and he said that was normal, lots of people never “get” Calc until several advanced classes later.

Thank gawd, I never had the opportunity to find out!

BeeJay

January 30th, 2012
12:42 pm

OMG, what a lame hypothesis. {{GROAN}}

Jm

January 30th, 2012
12:43 pm

Getalife

Occupy DC being ejected…

Paul

January 30th, 2012
12:43 pm

Recon

“I guess some on the blog believe that a moderate Republican is one who votes with the Democrats.”

Nope.

I’ll offer they don’t subscribe to Catholic doctrine regarding conception and abortion, nor do they make other social values the centerpiece of their platform.

They don’t demonstrate their allegiance by signing pledges.

They recognize that if the people want stuff they need to pay for it, so they’ll vote for tax increases to pay for what the people want.

They don’t believe we should pay 75% of NATO’s costs to defend European interests.

They look at science to evaluate a position that’s science-related. They don’t take a position and then state “there is no reliable data/”

They think people should, to the greatest extent possible, provide for themselves and their families. They aren’t keen on government telling them they don’t have to and Republicans will be happy for other citizens to keep paying their bills when they get sick.

That’s a start -

Welcome to the Occupation

January 30th, 2012
12:43 pm

irrational: “I’m saying, what does the US do if we start a trade war with them, and they suddenly decide to call the debt we owe them due.”

I think that misunderstands the nature of the power relationship that way. That relationship is not as asymmetrical as you suggest, the reason being the enormous power that accrues to the United States as long as it enjoys the privilege of having its currency also serve as the world’s reserve currency. As a result, China cannot do anything too drastic that would potentially undermine the stability of the dollar, as that would risk obliterating the value of their immense dollar reserve holdings.

Fred

January 30th, 2012
12:43 pm

pat

January 30th, 2012
12:19 pm

We pretty much already know who the media is pulling for. If you put an atheistic mega-lib on a podium, they would practically crap themselves with joy.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

FOX News craps themselves with joy over an atheistic mega-lib on a podium? Thanks for the update.

Or are youy trying to say that FOX news isn’t the largest most watched/listened too/read MEDIA outlet in the Nation? Or are you just too stupid to remember that FOX News IS media when you spout that insipid radio talk show line about the “biased media?”

Steve

January 30th, 2012
12:44 pm

How does Obama affect gas prices? Why are Americans so damn stupid?

getalife

January 30th, 2012
12:44 pm

jm,

Not yet.

You said it is over but wait until it gets warmer..

You ain’t seen nothing yet.

Jm

January 30th, 2012
12:45 pm

Occupy DC protester: don’t tase me bro!

Jm

January 30th, 2012
12:47 pm

Getalife

They can come out of the woodwork if they like

They will be arrested or ignored

getalife

January 30th, 2012
12:48 pm

jm,

I can count on you for always being dead wrong.

Goldie

January 30th, 2012
12:48 pm

getalife @ 12:39– also, we should go a little easy on the Neo-cons today, because remember they don’t really get “science”! :)