In Florida primary, the margin will matter
With the voting booths scheduled to open tomorrow in Florida, pollsters are all over the place in their predictions about the outcome.
Everybody has Mitt Romney winning. The discrepancy is in the predicted margin, which matters in a primary.
A Suffolk University poll has Romney up by 20, 47 percent to 27 percent. A Quinnipiac poll puts Romney up by 14, 43 percent to 29 percent, up from a nine-point margin a week ago.
But Georgia-based InsiderAdvantage claims the Romney-Gingrich race is tightening, with Romney up by five percentage points, 36-31 percent. Matt Towery, InsiderAdvantage’s founder and owner, has ties to Gingrich, which might be cause for caution. But Public Policy Polling, a Democratic-leaning firm, has it 39-32.
That’s a fairly wide spread this close to an election, which means somebody is going to have egg on their face when this is over. If the tighter projections prove valid, Gingrich has some justification for continuing to fight, perhaps all the way to the convention as he promises.
A margin of 20 points or more, on the other hand, would pretty much spell the end of the race. That’s particularly true if exit polls show Romney beating Gingrich even among conservative Republicans.
Of course, such a defeat doesn’t necessarily mean that an increasingly bitter Gingrich would withdraw from the race. He feels abused and ill-used by his party’s establishment, and he may decide to stick in the race just to be obstinate. Back in the Iowa days, you may remember, Gingrich was trying to convince everyone that he had really changed and was no longer the angry, combative politician he used to be.
That Grandpa Gingrich act didn’t last very long.
– Jay Bookman
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barking frog
January 30th, 2012
4:59 pm
Newt will stay as long as he has money. Paul will stay.
Santorum may be out of money.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
5:00 pm
Its too bad Newt could not maintain that Grandpa Gringrich persona for a few more states……….It would have been fun to watch him sucker in a few more of the conned. But no matter, so of the conned want the anger and the anti-establishment rants.
JohnnyReb
January 30th, 2012
5:00 pm
I’m not sure what a “conservative Republican” is; I thought we are all Conservative. That aside, the base is pi$$ed. The elites of the party want Romney, but the base does not. Romney and his superpac are spening enough in FL to buy the outcome. Romney and Newt are compromised. I want Santorum.
Jm
January 30th, 2012
5:02 pm
Go mitt!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
5:03 pm
I want Santorum.
Must…….. not………… laugh………. bite tongue……… no laughter….. frothy….arrrggggghhhhhhhh!
Josef
January 30th, 2012
5:04 pm
“He feels abused and ill-used by his party’s establishment”
Sorta like his ex-wives?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
5:04 pm
KUTGF — I know, right?
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
5:04 pm
Intrade has Obama winning the presidential election at 54.7%, Romney at 40.8, Gingrich at 2.1%.
I think it’s crying time for the Newterator.
Josef
January 30th, 2012
5:05 pm
Say what you will about Santorum, and L-rd knows I’m no fan, but what you see is what you get.
They BOTH sucked
January 30th, 2012
5:06 pm
If Romney wins tomorrow (he will); he should take Obama’s line when he told McCain during the campaign that “he was out of touch, out of ideas and about out of time”
He can be 1st to say it this year, but it probably wont be him who says it last
barking frog
January 30th, 2012
5:06 pm
The Republican Party establishment was responsible for
kicking him out of Congress and taking a sizable chunk of
change from his pocket. No wonder he feels hard at them.
They BOTH sucked
January 30th, 2012
5:08 pm
Newts actions kicked Newt out of Congress……… The “establishment” just facilitated the move
harvey
January 30th, 2012
5:10 pm
Romney has made lots of money for himself. He is truly the only one who doesn’t need the job. So, I got to figure he is in it to actually try to do for the country a little bit of what he has done for himself. We need somebody with a good business sense and he is the guy. I get the impression from Gingrich that he is just a little bit dirty. If anything, Romney is almost too squeaky clean for this country. I mean, after all, it is a country where people still laugh at ignorant stuff like My Redneck Vacation.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
5:13 pm
Say what you will about Santorum, … but what you see is what you get
JHM, this is killing me.
Josef
January 30th, 2012
5:13 pm
Harvey
A “little bit dirty?” That man makes a pig pen look like an operating room…
Josef
January 30th, 2012
5:14 pm
Good fight…
Why so?
TaxPayer
January 30th, 2012
5:15 pm
The Republicans just need to get down and dirty. Give us some good reality teevee. After all, with all that money freed up to legally go to the candidate of choice, they can afford to really get cutthroat. Make Kerry look back on this primary and think that those swiftboaters were child’s play in comparison. We gotta get those ratings up. This is a Marathon, Man.
Jm
January 30th, 2012
5:18 pm
Mitt for a brighter future for America!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 30th, 2012
5:18 pm
Well, good to be home to Fox News and what I need to think (sure makes it easier on the brain) after a hard day of hauling, lugging, and humping.
It looks like the upstate FL rednecks are going to get run over like a possum when the polls open down there tomorrow. Mr. Morman Underpants done bought the election. And I see the women have all ganged up against old Newt. Run around with two or three different wifes and they’ll hold it against you forever. I tell you, make one little mistake with a woman and she’ll throw it in your face for the next 70 years. Even at your funeral. My Daddy was right. It was a big mistake to give them the vote.
Anyhow, old Newt will be OK in time. He’ll be dumping this third wife in a year or two. She just plain costs too much. I can’t hardly beleive he let the Catholic Church make his kids b—tards to marry her.
And one question: when did josef start putting the big J in front of his name?
Have a good night everybody.
Jm
January 30th, 2012
5:20 pm
Harvey bingo
He doesn’t need the job
That’s they guy you want as President
josef
January 30th, 2012
5:22 pm
Duk-sha-nee
There. Happy now?
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
5:23 pm
“Son, you’re gonna drive me to drinkin’,
if you don’t stop drivin’ that Hot Rod Lincoln.”
– Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson
January 30th, 2012
5:31 pm
The GOP just want catch phases and sayings, their record is dismal. Why should anyone belive they have changed from the borrow and spend they did last time they were in power. They have not changed, they just lost.
saywhat?
January 30th, 2012
5:33 pm
“Say what you will about Santorum, and L-rd knows I’m no fan, but what you see is what you get.”
Thats why I try not to ever look at it.
josef
January 30th, 2012
5:35 pm
saywhat….
Pretty much my approach, too.
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
5:37 pm
It doesn’t appear from polls and Romney’s momentum from the Florida debates that Gingrich will pull out a win or even come close. Even if he comes close he doesn’t have the organization or Republican establishment supporting him also his primary funding source Sheldon Adelman may not put up sufficient money for his continuance in the race.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
5:38 pm
“A margin of 20 points or more, on the other hand, would pretty much spell the end of the race. ”
Less than 10% of the states will have voted after Florida votes. Why the rush in trying to declare a nominee?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
5:40 pm
Military Grade Screen cleaner!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
5:40 pm
saywhat — “Thats why I try not to ever look at it.”
Look at it? I don’t even want to *hear* about it.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
5:42 pm
“I want Santorum.”
Head to Cheshire Bridge.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
5:46 pm
Head to Cheshire Bridge.
And the jokes just keep “coming.”
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
5:46 pm
jcb, the bill’s in the mail for a new monitor.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
5:50 pm
Kamchak,
“And the jokes just keep “coming.””
Santorum: the frothy mix that keeps on giving.
josef
January 30th, 2012
5:50 pm
okay…what’s the inside joke here?
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
5:50 pm
josef
Just Google Santorum.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
5:51 pm
Joe Hussein Mama,
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/19-inch-LCD-Monitor-Protector-Screen-Shield/3164003/product.html
“Can be cleaned with water and used repeatedly “
josef
January 30th, 2012
5:53 pm
K’chak
I did. I still don’t get it…
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
5:53 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight! @ 5.40,
That scared the bejeezus out of me!
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
5:54 pm
Romney will be great. Has governed and worked with Dems in one of the bluest states out there. Has real world private sector experience so he understands things about the golden goose- the private economy, which Obama will never be able to fathom since he was just a “community organizer”.
But then hell as I said I would take Elmer Fudd over Obama. Could Elmer Fudd possibly have done any worse than the community organizer? Ummm! Nope!!!
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
5:55 pm
“I still don’t get it…”
Well, I’m not explaining it.
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
5:56 pm
1.7% economic growth for 2011. Nuff said.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
5:57 pm
josef
This is first on the list when you google santorum”
It seems that RS upset someone and a coordinated web attack was born.
Not saying it’s right.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
5:58 pm
jcb — “Can be cleaned with water and used repeatedly “
Well, that’ll come in handy with this crowd.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 30th, 2012
5:58 pm
Josef – try this for an explanation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPLavXwfglE
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
5:59 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“Romney will be great.”
Plus he knows how to effectively tie a dog to the roof of a car for a 12-hour road trip to Canada. That should prove handy somehow.
josef
January 30th, 2012
5:59 pm
K’chak
Thanks! NOW I get it!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
6:00 pm
a campaign stop in Florida today, Newt Gingrich said that if he wins the GOP nomination, he will refuse to debate President Obama if a reporter serves as moderator. Gingrich has prided himself on his debating prowess and his intellect, and virtually every presidential debate is moderated by members of the press, but Gingrich thinks all reporters are secretly Obama shills and he is apparently uncomfortable dealing with them
Well those frothing at the mouth for a Newt/Obama debate may never see one….
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:00 pm
jewcowboy,
And that’s relevant to understanding the private economy how? Please tell me ya got better than that?
ty webb
January 30th, 2012
6:01 pm
sad(in a funny way) to see the voracious Newt reduced to crying victimhood at the hands of the Romney campaign…in Newt, I think the occusquatters have found their new face…”so he’s got that goin’ for him…which is nice”.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:03 pm
Kamchak,
“Not saying it’s right.”
“In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing. And when you destroy that you have a dramatic impact on the quality”
“If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything.”
These were the quotes that Santorum uttered to get Dan Savage started on his website.
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:04 pm
In an airtight kennel. Good grief. I had this image that Romney literally tied down his dog, exposed to the elements, to the top of the car. So what’s the difference in putting your dog in an airtight kennel on the roof of the car as opposed to the kennel being inside the car? Exactly. There is no difference.
josef
January 30th, 2012
6:05 pm
K’chak
I googled his first name with it…that’s how I missed it…this one IS fun…
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:06 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“And that’s relevant to understanding the private economy how?”
Yes, because the only reason anyone votes for President is because the private economy. you all voted for Bush II because of his mastery of the private economy, right?
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
6:06 pm
Doom, if the kennel was airtight, then how’d the dog pewp get out of the kennel and run down the windows of the car?
I think the dog knew what the difference was, even if you don’t.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
6:07 pm
These were the quotes that Santorum uttered to get Dan Savage started on his website.
Yes jewcowboy, I’m familiar with why Savage created the website. Santorum crossed a line with his rhetoric and so did Savage with his website.
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:07 pm
Potential debates?
Obama vs Newt= total slaughter by Newt
Obama vs Mitt= Romney beating down the community organizer
Obam vs Elmer Fudd= Elmer annihalates the organizer with more brain power.
ty webb
January 30th, 2012
6:07 pm
Quick, what color was the dog?…the democrats just may have an opening on that issue.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:08 pm
Thulsa DoomI,
“an airtight kennel.”
And that is ok? You do understand what airtight means, right?
And as Joe Hussein Mama questioned, if it was airtight, “then how’d the dog pewp get out of the kennel and run down the windows of the car?”
This one falls into the evidence of poor judgement category.
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:09 pm
“you all voted for Bush II because of his mastery of the private economy, right?”
For the middle 6 years of his presidency we had vastly lower unemployment and better economic growth than in any of the 3 years under the community organizer. Just the facts sir. Just the facts please.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
6:10 pm
So what’s the difference in putting your dog in an airtight kennel on the roof of the car as opposed to the kennel being inside the car? Exactly. There is no difference.
Perhaps it might be worth taking a minute, using your “google” to look up the full story about the entire trip so you don’t post your diatribe in ignorance of facts and actual knowledge. I know that might actually be a step into a new frontier for you…but I imagine you can do it if you try and don’t expect everyone to spoon feed you the facts.
josef
January 30th, 2012
6:11 pm
jewcowboy
Those quotes from Santorum on gays, that’s why I said what you see is what you get. He’s a jerk wad for sure, but he said what he said has kept saying it and hasn’t p’footed around like the rest of that lot, the Fierce Advocate included. At least you don’t have to second guess him…
estúpido
January 30th, 2012
6:11 pm
Newt’s got my vote. And failing that, I’m sure I’ll come around to Raw Money.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
6:11 pm
Doomy dun bin annihilated with facts. Doomy hates him some facts, yes he does.
(laughing, pointing)
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:13 pm
Kamchak,
” I’m familiar with why Savage created the website. Santorum crossed a line with his rhetoric and so did Savage with his website.”
Sorry…I disagree. People are responsible for their words. If you utter crap, someone may call you out on it in a not so pleasant way.
And by the way, it’s Santorum’s incompetence that perpetuates it: http://searchengineland.com/how-rick-santorum-is-making-his-google-problem-worse-106665
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
6:13 pm
http://www.dogsagainstromney.com/
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:14 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“For the middle 6 years of his presidency we had vastly lower unemployment and better economic growth than in any of the 3 years under the community organizer. Just the facts sir. Just the facts please.”
Why 6 years?
TaxPayer
January 30th, 2012
6:15 pm
An airtight kennel! GASP!
HDB
January 30th, 2012
6:16 pm
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:09 pm
“For the middle 6 years of his presidency we had vastly lower unemployment and better economic growth than in any of the 3 years under the community organizer.”
Doom….there were massive job losses immediately after 9/11……and job losses after the financial collapse. Those two periods counteract the “gains” of the middle….and when an economy is losing over 700K jobs monthly, there’s no way that that Presidency can be deemed a success!! Those ARE THE FACTS…..
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:16 pm
“Doom, if the kennel was airtight, then how’d the dog pewp get out of the kennel and run down the windows of the car?”
I just looked it up and saw that was what Romney said about this incident that occurred 28 freaking years ago. Jeez. Regardless he thought his dawg would be fine. It was in a kennel and he thought it would be fine. If its poor judgment its poor judgement made 28 years ago.
If all you guys got is to criticize Romney about putting his dogs kennel on the car roof 28 years ago then that speaks volumes about how weak your ammo is.
Lemme ask one more time. Is that all you got??? Seriously??? Really??? If that’s your best then your best aint good enough.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:17 pm
josef,
“the Fierce Advocate included.”
Explain to me how Obama has pussyfooted around on gay rights issues.
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
6:17 pm
jcb — “Why 6 years?”
Because that’s the cherrypicked period that the Heritage Foundation uses. It likes to ignore the fact that more jobs were LOST in the next two years AFTER that period than were created in that ENTIRE six-year period.
Doom and I have clashed on that data before; he admits that Heritage cherry-picked their data, but he continues to use it. Remarkably, as part of that selfsame discussion, Doom lambasted Nancy Pelosi for . . . wait for it . . . cherry-picking data to make a point.
The *exact same thing* that Heritage did and Doom continues to rely on. :eyeroll:
Doom, get some new figures. We’re on to you here.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:18 pm
josef,
“the Fierce Advocate included.”
Explain to me how Obama has p+ssyfooted around on gay rights issues.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
6:18 pm
jewcowboy
I think the Savage campaign is funny as hell, and I’ve even used the frothy mix line here a time or three, but neither one of them, Savage or Santorum, can claim the high road here.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:19 pm
Whoops…sorry for the double post. It said it was in moderation, and I assumed it wasn’t going to let a certain word through. Guess which word
TaxPayer
January 30th, 2012
6:19 pm
If all you guys got is to criticize Romney about putting his dogs kennel on the car roof 28 years ago then that speaks volumes about how weak your ammo is.
I know what you mean. The next thing you know, they’ll be bringing up who he once saw in church or even his birth certificate! Where will it end!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
6:20 pm
If its poor judgment its poor judgement made 28 years ago.
Funny that Newt should bring that up then….. and seems that the same people whining about this being in the past are the same ones that are demanding Obama’s grade school report cards.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:21 pm
Kamchak,
“but neither one of them, Savage or Santorum, can claim the high road here.”
Certainly not, but I think that is the point of Savage’s website.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
6:21 pm
Dang it Taxpayer….stop that!!!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
6:21 pm
TaxPayer — “I know what you mean. The next thing you know, they’ll be bringing up who he once saw in church or even his birth certificate! Where will it end!”
You win at playing Internet.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:22 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“If its poor judgment its poor judgement made 28 years ago.”
Then all that business judgement from back then doesn’t mean anything either I guess.
Midori
January 30th, 2012
6:23 pm
Thulsa reminds me of RW.
A lot.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:23 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“Is that all you got?”
You seem rather defensive. Of course it’s not all I have. But Newt seems to be the more prominent voice on all the other things. I’ll let him just expound on Mitt’s problems.
josef
January 30th, 2012
6:26 pm
jewcowboy
If that’s what you call Fierce Advocacy…remember Prop 8? Preacher Warren? Not coming out guns blazing on DADT? Yep, he signed it…and I give him credit there…but he’s p’footed from the get-go…still is, but right now, I’m glad…about the last thing I want coming up for the campaign…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
January 30th, 2012
6:27 pm
Well, I sure wish I never clicked on that link to explain the Santorum thing. Supper never tasted good at all after that. And then the missus had to go and ask if I wanted a nice frothy hot cocoa.
josef
January 30th, 2012
6:28 pm
jewcowboy
Ain’t that a good one for moderation? Can’t even quote the venrable Mrs. Slocumb without sending the blue-nosed b*tch into a dither…
Paul Felix Schott
January 30th, 2012
6:29 pm
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES HAVE BEEN PROMISING THE MOON FOR YEARS. How many of them have come to NASA be for they put their hat in to run for President, in support of the Space Program or Space Exploration and all that have Worked there for Years. Many men and woman and their families have Worked and Volunteered for NASA from day one of the Program to put things in Outer Space. Not just in Florida at Cape Canaveral all over the United States jobs are lost every time they cut. Most from day one at NASA Have been from the United States Military. The same can be said about our Brave men and woman that are serving in the Military. How many Candidates do you see on Military Bases before they run for a office. i have spent more then half my life on them mostly as a Volunteer.
You can only cut so much and there will be no more to cut. All on Earth need good jobs not more Taxes and WARS. If the Leaders of all Nations really wanted to have more growth in Jobs they would be taking cuts in their pay all that work for the government and cutting taxes that they have been giving to all, on their land and pay.
You want growth cut Taxes on everything. Oh i am sorry that would slow down the government and give more back to the people, or to put it correctly take less from them. Most would say steal. Smaller Government by the will of the People for the People By The People.
United We Stand In GOD We Trust
not the wicked.
This is not the Roman Empire or Persian Empire. This is Home of the FREE and the Land of the Brave that Will Always Stand United that all on Earth should be Free to Carry a Bible and be able to read it with out some one trying to kill you for doing so, and the Power will always belong to the People and our Father in Heaven our Lord GOD.
Part of the NASA Family of over 20 years.
Land of the Brave from Birth.
The Lord’s Little Helper
Paul Felix Schott
ld
January 30th, 2012
6:30 pm
Santorum would like to outlaw birth control–not a snowball’s chance in a hot place he could win the general election. Female voters–especially the young–would turn out in droves to defeat him. I’m convinced that even the FEMALE “values voters” who are anti-abortion (including MANY Catholics) would make a point of voting againt him (no matter what right-wing drival they’d say in public).
ld
January 30th, 2012
6:31 pm
The moon is an EXCELLENT place for the 1% to spend THEIR $–NOT taxpayer $–to build the ultimate gated community.
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:32 pm
HDB,
W inherited a weak economy from Clinton. Remember the .com bust? And then as you mentioned 9/11 hit and W had yet another blow go against him. Yet the economy recovered and the middle 6 years were moderate growth with low unemployment. As a matter of fact unemployment didn’t begin to rise and the recession wasn’t realized until after the Dems took over Congress. Coincidence? Nope.
The reality is that the middle years of the W economy were simply better than the Obama years. Facts are facts.
Some more facts. The recession hit in 07 and I believe it ended either right before or right after Obama came into office Jan. 09. We do know from Jay’s little jobs losses chart from several months ago that jobs losses had bottomed already in Jan of 09 when Obama came into office- I believe it officially ended in March 09 just after O came in. So things were already bottomed out and getting better as Obama was entering office. Nevertheless lets give Obama a mulligan for his first year 2009. Now what’s his excuse for 2010? What’s his excuse for 2011. Wait. Lemme guess. Its still W’s fault 3 years later?
The reality is that nearly 3 years after the recession ended we are still mired in terribly anemic economic growth numbers. There is no sugarcoating it ma’am. From what I’ve read this is the single worst recovery from a recession since the great Depression. Those are the facts. Just the facts ma’am. Now ya’ll git to work on your litany of excuses for this man’s abysmal failure.
I’ll be back in a few hours to examine your litany of excuses to see if any of them will hold a drop of water. Odds are none will but I’ll check anyway just to amuse myself. You got your homework. Now get to work!
ld
January 30th, 2012
6:33 pm
Read somewhere all US Senators are millionaires. I’ll believe the Senate is ready to cut spending when they begin w/their own wages and expense accounts.
I’ll only believe the House is seriously considering cutting spending when they quit taking calls, gifts, etc. from lobbyists.
ty webb
January 30th, 2012
6:35 pm
Thulsa Doom,
didn’t you get the memo?…democrats have copyrighted the word “inherited”, it’s only to be used in defense of obama.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:37 pm
josef,
You may disagree with the speed in which things are being accomplished, but this President has done more than any other for gay rights. You may be impatient, but you do know the fable of the Tortoise and the Hare?
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:37 pm
jewcowboy,
Nope. Not defensive. I’m just a little in shock that that’s all you guys can come up with. Your lead argument against Romney is that he tied his dogs kennel to the roof of the car 28 years ago thinking it would be fine? I simply cannot imagine a weaker argument against the man. I just can’t. I’m sure perhaps Midori can though. Maybe she can pull some obscure link crazy black woman who claims that Mitt, like W, had her kidnapped by local cops and brought to the governor’s mansion so that he could rape her. I still can’t decide what was funnier. That ridiculous link that Midori provided or the fact that she believed it.
Thulsa Doom
January 30th, 2012
6:39 pm
ty webb,
I forgot. They got more excuses for this man’s monumental failure than Jimmy Carter has peanuts. Doomy out!
Jay
January 30th, 2012
6:39 pm
Thulsa, that argument on unemployment is well-honed, factual, logical and most of all intellectually honest …
… in Opposite Land.
theyeshaveit
January 30th, 2012
6:39 pm
“Gingrich: I wouldn’t accept debate versus Obama moderated by reporters.”
Honestly, what’s he worried about? There is about as much chance that Gingrich will debate Obama as there is Astronaut Gingrich will lead the colonization of the moon.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
6:40 pm
Thulsa Doom,
“I’ll be back in a few hours to examine your litany of excuses to see if any of them will hold a drop of water”
Why bother? You are obviously not interested in reality If you write things like, “From what I’ve read this is the single worst recovery from a recession since the great Depression” without acknowledging this is also the single worst recession since the Great Depression.
Anywho…I’m out of here as well.
They BOTH sucked
January 30th, 2012
6:41 pm
TD
what is even crazier than that link about GWB is the Rev Fawell making a fake video (yes it took a few yrs for them to admit they couldn’t substantiate anything, but they did admit it) which basically said Clinton killed half of Arkansas and raped the other half
Joe Hussein Mama
January 30th, 2012
6:42 pm
Shorter Newt Gingrich Campaign Promise: MARS, B*TCH*S
TaxPayer
January 30th, 2012
6:44 pm
Scout has a worthy opponent in Thulsa for the creation of most notable rabbit holes. That 6:32 was a doozey. A rabbit hole that does not allow light to escape from it.
They BOTH sucked
January 30th, 2012
6:45 pm
TD
Check it out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Clinton_Chronicles
That Fawell, what a great guy he was……….
ld
January 30th, 2012
6:45 pm
Someone brakes your legs–makes it harder to win a race, even if you, supposedly, otherwise have a “fair” chance; and the US economy DID have broken legs when Obama took office. When Bush took office, there were ‘bruises’ but not ‘brakes’ and it was on the mend–not needing billions in fix-it fund to be given to PRIVATE, for mega-profit banks.
that said, ‘following’ the mistakes of Bush w/a second ‘bailout’ of FAILED banks was really STUPIDITY, not leadership
josef
January 30th, 2012
6:46 pm
jewcowboy
Nope. It’s not the speed, per se. It went a lot faster on DADT than I expected (but then the overwhelming majority of the American populace was for repeal), I just haven’t forgotten Prop 8 and Preacher Warren…HE hasn’t done much more than go with the flow, and the flow has been in our favor…I’ll give him a point or two in not being outspokenly opposed, but let’s not go giving him credit he’s not due…and, really, what has he done for gay rights other than sign DADT repeal and take a rather lukewarm stance on DOMA…? My objection was and is, don’t go calling yourself a Fierce Adovocate when you ain’t….
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
6:47 pm
I’ll be back in a few hours to examine your litany of excuses to see if any of them will hold a drop of water. Odds are none will but I’ll check anyway just to amuse myself.
Backing out the door while claiming victory.
josef
January 30th, 2012
6:47 pm
jewcowboy
And while gay rights is my issue, he’s also been tepid at best on human rights in general…
Midori
January 30th, 2012
6:47 pm
if I recall correctly Thulsa, I offered that link to show you that some of the same accusations made about Clinton were also made about Bush.
It’s your problem if you drew other conclusions.
Period.
My feelings were along the lines that it could be true. Unlike you and your firebreathing pomposity regarding Juanita B., et al.
Why all the “supposed” rapes you like to keep tossing out contain the gospel truth, and mine held to your hypocritical and expected scorn?
Your’e a legend in your own mind.
ld
January 30th, 2012
6:48 pm
Maybe Romney at least knows how to use actual ‘business’ math; Newt, we can expect, to have been corrupted by prior use of “Congressional Math” during his term as Speaker.
getalife
January 30th, 2012
6:48 pm
It is called la la land.
Midori,
doomy does write like RW but they all sound the same with their deflection to blame others and never take any blame.
And the rw talking points of course.
F. Sinkwich
January 30th, 2012
6:48 pm
Col. Allen West:
“Take your message of equality of achievement, take your message of economic dependency, take your message of enslaving the entrepreneurial will and spirit of the American people somewhere else. You can take it to Europe, you can take it to the bottom of the sea, you can take it to the North Pole, but get it the hell out of the United States of America”
Kinda says it all. Way to go Mr. Congessman!
ld
January 30th, 2012
6:49 pm
Hint: Congressional math believes SSA still has $ it ‘owes’ in benefits–as opposed to the IOU’s it actually has.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
6:51 pm
Col. Allen West:
Kinda late to the party with that particular ilkiness.
Midori
January 30th, 2012
6:51 pm
word, Getalife.
josef
January 30th, 2012
6:53 pm
Actually, imo, Allen West is something we can all be proud of as Americans. We have now reached a stage in our progress that black folks can contribute their own spectacular dip sh*t. Equality? Ain’t it grand!
Midori
January 30th, 2012
6:55 pm
TBS,
Yet, according to Loon Doom – it’s 100 percent, unvarnished truth, while I need to be committed for bringing up the things said about Bush.
See how his mind works. Rather, doesn’t?
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
6:55 pm
If a cow laughs hard enough, does ilk come out of it’s nose?
ty webb
January 30th, 2012
6:56 pm
“We have now reached a stage in our progress that black folks can contribute their own spectacular dip sh*t.”
tell me about it…some even get paid to “resist we much” on TV.
Jay
January 30th, 2012
6:56 pm
No Kam, it comes out its ose.
F. Sinkwich
January 30th, 2012
6:56 pm
“Kinda late to the party with that particular…”
Genius and truth bares repeating.
josef
January 30th, 2012
6:57 pm
K’chak
@ 6:55
Jay
January 30th, 2012
6:58 pm
But as a test, I propose we read Thulsa’s economic postings to the cow just to be sure.
kayaker 71
January 30th, 2012
6:58 pm
Allen West…. another out of the gang Republican that the establishment will have a little hard time dealing with unless they vote to abolish his district, which is on the books. He speaks his mind, has a lot to say and usually is spot on. He is the left’s worst nightmare when it comes to reality. Right on, Congressman West….. may your tenure on the Congressional Black Caucus be a short one.
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:00 pm
“Genius and truth bares repeating.”
They should keep their repeating covered…
JAY and K’Chak
That’s just udderly funny….
Midori
January 30th, 2012
7:00 pm
But as a test, I propose we read Thulsa’s economic postings to the cow just to be sure.
JAY!!!
The poor cow!!!!
Midori
January 30th, 2012
7:01 pm
moooove over, Josef
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
7:01 pm
But as a test, I propose we read Thulsa’s economic postings to the cow just to be sure.
http://www.theinterpretersfriend.org/misc/humr/laugh.gif
getalife
January 30th, 2012
7:02 pm
I propose to find the exact center of America and move government to this center and away from k street.
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:02 pm
JAY
Haven’t you already…?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c1/Vache_qui_rit.png
jconservative
January 30th, 2012
7:03 pm
Newt will stay in the race until the last minute. His goal is to keep Romney out of the White House.
Revenge! Revenge for the ad campaigns in Iowa and now Florida.
Newt is thin skinned and can’t stand the heat in the kitchen. He complains about how he is treated by the Romney ads. Wait till he sees the Obama ads. They will make the Romney ads look like a pat on the back.
Newt is all talk.
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:03 pm
midori
F. Sinkwich
January 30th, 2012
7:07 pm
Guffaw.
You libs ilks are a hoot.
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:10 pm
Sinkwich
“You libs ilks are a hoot.”
Gee, and I thought the GOP was the OWL Party…
“Out with Logic! On with Lunacy!”
F. Sinkwich
January 30th, 2012
7:13 pm
What does it say on the bottom of a lib ilk Coke bottle?
“Open other end”
Jm
January 30th, 2012
7:13 pm
Can we establish one thing.
There is no right wing conspiracy. There is no powerful group sitting in a smoke filled room. AND THERE IS NO “REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT”.
There. Now the decks are cleared on that.
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
7:13 pm
Why did Hillary quit last time when she was running for president and badmouthing Obama ?
F. Sinkwich
January 30th, 2012
7:15 pm
Why did the lib ilk cross the street?
To get to the welfare office.
getalife
January 30th, 2012
7:16 pm
There is a vast rw conspiracy and it started with a birth certificate against our President.
I have noticed the lack of scandals so this President can’t be smeared by the vast rw conspiracy.
They keep trying and they got nothing.
getalife
January 30th, 2012
7:18 pm
“Why did Hillary quit last time when she was running for president and badmouthing Obama ?”
Because he won.
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:19 pm
Why did the lib ilk cross the street?
To show the conservative possum it could be done….
estúpido
January 30th, 2012
7:20 pm
Die you shaggy haired lib ilkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!
getalife
January 30th, 2012
7:20 pm
“Why did the lib ilk cross the street?”
To get the con ilk out of the ditch.
F. Sinkwich
January 30th, 2012
7:21 pm
How many lib ilks does it take to change a light bulb?
None. They enjoy the dark.
kayaker 71
January 30th, 2012
7:22 pm
Liberals are a curious lot. They scream to high heaven when a conservative criticizes a black liberal but when we give praise to black Republicans, we are ignored. Jan Brewer is now being described as a racist on her tilt with Bozo. Hell, I don’t even like the half white part of him.
estúpido
January 30th, 2012
7:23 pm
Sarah Palin:
Annoy a lib ilk, vote Newt!
Jm
January 30th, 2012
7:25 pm
Josef 6:47
I get the importance of that issue to you. But at the end of the day, I imagine you’re not a single issue voter. I used to be, but that changed 5 or 6 years ago.
On the full spectrum of issues, jobs, fixing government, taking on the big challenges, Josef, perhaps you’d consider voting for a guy like mitt over Obama. Just a few thoughts there….
estúpido
January 30th, 2012
7:27 pm
Gradual progression in Newt Gingrich’s campaign rhetorical tactics:
Only a vote for me will stop our party from nominating a Massachusetts moderate.
Only a vote for me will stop our party from nominating a Massachusetts liberal.
Only a vote for me will stop our party from nominating a Massachusetts lib ilk.
At which point no more terrible epithet was possible.
Jm
January 30th, 2012
7:27 pm
Kayaker
That was funny
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
7:28 pm
Teaparty: In my day, we didn’t ask why the ilk crossed the road. Someone told us that the ilk had crossed the road, and that was good enough for us.
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
7:28 pm
getalife:
Why did she badmouth Obama ?
AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater
January 30th, 2012
7:29 pm
I’m not sure what a “conservative Republican” is; I thought we are all Conservative…
Woo Hoo!
Thanks, Reb. That is the biggest laugh I’ve had today!
Followed very closely by this: Gingrich was trying to convince everyone that he had really changed and was no longer the angry, combative politician he used to be.
Good times in Delusionville…
getalife
January 30th, 2012
7:29 pm
Scout hole,
Because she is a fighter.
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
7:30 pm
Healine (Washington Post): “Obama: The most polarizing president. Ever.”
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
7:30 pm
getalife:
Because she was telling the truth !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SazBzvQ0ZAM&feature=related
Jm
January 30th, 2012
7:31 pm
Newt: “you cant debate someone who isn’t honest”
Too funny
jays Brain
January 30th, 2012
7:31 pm
January 30, 2012 at 12:52 pm
Treasury ups auto bailout loss estimate
By David Shepardson Detroit News Washington Bureau
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120130/AUTO01/201300393/Treasury-ups-auto-bailout-loss-estimate?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|s
Hey Jay I keep reminding you to report on this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Lets not forget to report on how obama screwed the taxpayers.
And jay, remember to remind the readers that obama GAVE the
greedy auto workers half of GM. They had to pay NOTHING.
Just reminding you to report for once jay and stop being a waterboy
for the leftist.
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
7:34 pm
And you wonder about the slide into depravity of our major networks ?
Headline: “NBC drops donkey semen episode of ‘FEAR FACTOR’… ”
“Donkey semen will not be served on network TV tomorrow night — the”Fear Factor” episode featuring the stunt has been yanked … at least according to a website where NBC posts its media releases.
The controversial episode is entitled, “Hee Haw! Hee Haw!” An NBC media release teased it by saying the contestants will eat “the unimaginable.”
getalife
January 30th, 2012
7:34 pm
jm,
Why does willard have a problem with the truth?
He can’t remember his positions because of all the flip flops.
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:34 pm
Jm
That’s one of my major issues…I have about six or eight that determine my vote…
And NO a thousand times over I wouldn’t vote for a Mitt over Obama…he’s a Republican for the love of G-d! Granny’s grey ghost would rise and smite me if I ever voted for the Party of Diocletian of the Potomac
Seriously, though, the issue can be put on the back burner for those of y’all not directly and daily concerned with it…I don’t have that luxury…
jm
January 30th, 2012
7:36 pm
This Week: “the most recent debates were not your best, what went wrong?”
Newt: “I was amazed.”
Amazed with his failure? huh.
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
7:36 pm
More Global Warming News ……………..
Headline: “Severe cold snap kills 36 in eastern Europe”
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/30/severe-cold-snap-kills-32-in-eastern-europe/?test=latestnews
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:37 pm
SCOUT
“And you wonder about the slide into depravity of our major networks ?”
Yep, them and the good G-d fearing heretics and apostates of the family values party….
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
7:37 pm
“I fought the law and the law won.”
– Thomas Jefferson
getalife
January 30th, 2012
7:37 pm
Newt: “I was amazed.”
Finish the quote jm.
AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater
January 30th, 2012
7:37 pm
This great news brought to you by your moron “leaders” in the Bush administration and the Pentagon…
Reporting from Washington — After the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003, the George W. Bush administration flooded the conquered country with so much cash to pay for reconstruction and other projects in the first year that a new unit of measurement was born.
Pentagon officials determined that one giant C-130 Hercules cargo plane could carry $2.4 billion in shrink-wrapped bricks of $100 bills. They sent an initial full planeload of cash, followed by 20 other flights to Iraq by May 2004 in a $12-billion haul that U.S. officials believe to be the biggest international cash airlift of all time.
This month, the Pentagon and the Iraqi government are finally closing the books on the program that handled all those Benjamins. But despite years of audits and investigations, U.S. Defense officials still cannot say what happened to $6.6 billion in cash — enough to run the Los Angeles Unified School District or the Chicago Public Schools for a year, among many other things.
http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/13/world/la-fg-missing-billions-20110613
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
7:40 pm
Romney/West…look out Democrats the assault team will soon be staging.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
7:45 pm
“NBC drops donkey semen episode of ‘FEAR FACTOR’… ”
So?
This is supposed to be on my radar, why?
Orange12
January 30th, 2012
7:45 pm
It’s a winner take all state. We all know what close is good for and it isn’t this state. 2nd place means second place nothing more.
getalife
January 30th, 2012
7:48 pm
“Vice President Joe Biden confessed this weekend that he advised President Obama not to launch the mission that ultimately killed Osama bin Laden last spring.”
Could be an opening for a new V. P.
seabeau
January 30th, 2012
7:48 pm
Any man who would tell his wife,who was in the fight for her life with cancer,that he wanted a “Open Marriage” is a sorry scum , who doesn’t deserve to be dogcatcher much less President of the US.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
7:50 pm
Any man who would tell his wife,who was in the fight for her life with cancer,that he wanted a “Open Marriage” is a sorry scum…
Wrong marriage.
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:50 pm
seabeau
Putting it mildly….
AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater
January 30th, 2012
7:50 pm
In a perverse sort of way, I’m kind of hoping that Naughty Newtie takes Florida. Gawd knows that state is crawling with whack jobs, so it’s possible.
It would be rather fun to see the mass Gooper hysteria and widespread intra-tribu cannibalization.
Great fodder for bloggers and stand up comedians…
jm
January 30th, 2012
7:51 pm
getalife 7:34
very funny
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:52 pm
K’chak
Shoo-eee, why should we try to keep track of his marriages? Even he won’t try that without a teleprompter…
Midori
January 30th, 2012
7:52 pm
The Principled Pachyderm
http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/399912_371987292826788_108038612554992_1462683_1105090148_n.jpg
jm
January 30th, 2012
7:54 pm
josef 7:34 – understood. I put my number one issue on the back burner (the environment). None of that is relevant if people don’t have jobs, if people can’t make a decent living, and if people aren’t optimistic about the future. (and if our country goes down the fiscal toilet)
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
7:55 pm
josef
Newt’s a big enough sleaze-bucket without having to rewrite his personal history.
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
7:56 pm
“Vice President Joe Biden confessed this weekend that he advised President Obama not to launch the mission that ultimately killed Osama bin Laden last spring.”
“Could be an opening for a new V. P.”
Old Joe was only trying to tell the pres what he wanted to hear at that time and then along came Panetta, Hillary among others who told the pres that the word will leak out and if you don’t approve this opportunity to take OBL out the voters will take you out in November. Poor old Joe will now have to fall on his sword to avoid getting kicked out of the administration in disgrace.
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:56 pm
midori
@ 7:52
They does seem to have a sliding scale on they absolutes…apostates and heretics…
jm
January 30th, 2012
7:56 pm
getalife 7:37 – yeah, it was followed with a bunch of stuttering, incoherent blather about how Romney lies
Romney may dance, but he doesn’t outright lie, and to the extent one wants to say he does, he lies a lot less than the other pols
at least he’s not pandering to each constituency the way Newt is (and Obama does)
jm
January 30th, 2012
7:57 pm
this volunteer calling software thing is still in its infancy technologically…..
josef
January 30th, 2012
7:58 pm
K’chak
@ 7:55
Agreed…but you need a program just to keep up…
Jack
January 30th, 2012
7:58 pm
In spite of of all his liberal palaver, I don’t believe Bookman is going to vote for a man that wants him to pay for someone else’s health insurance.
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
7:59 pm
Moderated at 7:44pm really? Well double standards do exist on Jay’s left wing friendly blog.
ragnar danneskjold
January 30th, 2012
8:00 pm
Agree with the substance of the essay, disagree with the typical leftist slurs toward the end.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 30th, 2012
8:01 pm
In spite of of all his liberal palaver, I don’t believe Bookman is going to vote for a man that wants him to pay for someone else’s health insurance.
Because god knows paying into something that just goes right out to pay for someone else is so, so ….
so uninsurance-like!
josef
January 30th, 2012
8:02 pm
Jm
Plain and simple, Mitt and the rest of them have made it amply clear they don’t want my vote…
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:02 pm
Oh trotsky. Cheer up.
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
8:02 pm
Kammie:
Sorry, it’s not even depraved enough for the calilbrations on “your” radar which is why you missed it.
Doggone/GA
January 30th, 2012
8:03 pm
“In spite of of all his liberal palaver, I don’t believe Bookman is going to vote for a man that wants him to pay for someone else’s health insurance.”
Why not? We’re already doing that and have been since health insurance was invented.
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
8:03 pm
josef:
The last real “Son” ??
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/knoxnews/obituary.aspx?n=james-f-brown&pid=155672760&eid
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:05 pm
josef
you know Romney isn’t wildly anti gay rights….. (and as with all things Mitt, at one point he was for them)
Obama has explicitly said he isn’t for gay marriage.
TaxPayer
January 30th, 2012
8:05 pm
AmVet @ 7:37,
So, how many Solyndras does that add up to.
THE TRUTH
January 30th, 2012
8:06 pm
Geesh, get a life Jay, why don’t you just tell everyone how much you love Obozo and how you hate every one else, you write the same old rhetoric every day, two and three times a day, sure you have your loyal followers, but the rest of us are not swallowing your contant GOP bashing.
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:07 pm
josef
check it out, if only for entertainment value
http://www.logcabin.org/
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
8:11 pm
Someone has missed the point of Fear Factor, the commonality of foods in other cultures that would be “depraved” to other cultures, and of course that NBC does not make the content of most shows, it purchases them. But hey other than that, the rabbit hole is open for travel.
Or was the headline point that the donkey sperm is part of protecting the fetus?
Soothsayer
January 30th, 2012
8:15 pm
Well, I go away for couple of days and, my goodness! They’re dropping donkey semen out of C-130s and shrink wrapping $100 bills to pay off Iraqi insurgents.
And poor ol’ King Dumbass (’member him?) didn’t have nothing to do with no recession. It was them Democrats that snuck in there in 2006 what done it all. It was just a plot to get BO elected.
Not mention what a terrible idear it was to bail out them auto companies who are really just fronts for unions.
All this against a backdrop of Gnute having a jumping up and down temper tantrum ’cause them RepugNOwecan’ts just won’t come around to his way of thinking.
What a great Monday!
josef
January 30th, 2012
8:22 pm
Scout
@ 8:03
Neat…sounds like he may have been a liberal…
Jm
Wildly anti-gay? Well, that depends on your sliding scale, doesn’t it? It’s like that exchange with jewcowboy earlier, at least with the Santorum and his ilk
you know where you stand…and, yeah, it’s why I don’t join the all-hail-hosannah lot on Obama…Lukewarm Adovocate at best…not exactly back of the bus, but not the front either…know you place, you know…
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
8:23 pm
Missed all of this donkey stuff ,so I’m not sure about the donkey sperm posts. Could it be that the donkey, a symbol of democrats has undergone a vasectomy and therefore can no longer participate in the propagation of new little democrats. Maybe that’s what has jay’s minions upset with their skivvies stuffed up so tightly this evening where the sun doesn’t shine.
josef
January 30th, 2012
8:24 pm
THE TRUTH
It’s his job, Mahn…
Welcome to the Occupation
January 30th, 2012
8:25 pm
Evening jm!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
8:26 pm
Enter your comments here
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
8:28 pm
josef,
I can’t stay long, but I came back to check on your response.
“what has he done for gay rights other than sign DADT repeal and take a rather lukewarm stance on DOMA…?”
Ordered federal government to extend key benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees
Hosted first White House LGBT Pride Reception in history
Created a National Resource Center for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Elders
Signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr.Hate Crimes Prevention Act into law
Ended discrimination based on gender identity in the federal government
Lifted the ban that prohibited people with HIV/AIDS from entering the United States
Allowed trans Americans to receive true gender passports without surgery
Clarified the Family and Medical Leave Act ensuring family leave for LGBT employees
Ensured hospital visitation and medical decision-making rights for gay and lesbian patients
Released America’s first comprehensive plan to prevent and end homelessness, which includes homeless LGBT youth
Led a United Nations measure that restored “sexual orientation” to the definition of human rights
Signed the Repeal of and oversaw successful implementation of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”
Ensured that government housing programs are available to all eligible people, including LGBT community
Proposed more funding for LGBT priorities such as HIV/AIDS prevention and education, and bullying and teen suicide prevention
Declared the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional and announced the administration will no longer defend its constitutionality in court
Hosted a Conference on Bullying Prevention at the White House
Completed an Institute of Medicine study on LGBT health, the first of its kind
Clarified the meaning of “family” to include LGBT relationships, helping to protect bi-national families threatened by deportation
Supported lesbian widow Edith Windsor in her suit against DOMA
Issued guidance to foster safer working environment for transgender federal employees
Just because it is not splashed across the news, does not make it unimportant.
You say on one hand, “Not coming out guns blazing on DADT? Yep, he signed it…and I give him credit there…but he’s p’footed from the get-go” then say”It went a lot faster on DADT than I expected.” Perhaps the reason DADT is history, is because he took a slow, methodical approach, and actually ended up having the military advocate its repeal. What reaction do think would have come about if on the 1st day in office Obama signed a Presidential Order instead of the approach he took?
“I’ll give him a point or two in not being outspokenly opposed, but let’s not go giving him credit he’s not due”
You’re not even giving him the credit that is due him. If you thought for minute, that “fierce advocate” meant stripping down to a thong and dancing on a KY float down 5th Ave at Gay Pride you are going to be disappointed.
I look at his actual accomplishments and judge him by that…not my expectations. You judge him on a Rick Warren and Prop 8, when Obama has stated, “I personally believe that marriage is between a man and a woman. But I also agree with most Americans, including Vice President Cheney and over 2,000 religious leaders of all different beliefs, that decisions about marriage should be left to the states as they always have been.”
It seems you want so badly for Obama to embrace your views, that when he does not, you ignore or belittle all the other accomplishments he has done for gay people.
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:28 pm
Trotsky! that’s better…… if the Democrats aren’t going to confiscate wealth for you, care to poke them in the eye with a Republican vote?
I mean, I don’t think the commie party is going to win this election cycle…..
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:30 pm
krugman. a real dumb-arse
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-30/what-krugman-didn-t-say-about-the-u-k-s-austerity-plan-the-ticker.html
stands for decibels
January 30th, 2012
8:31 pm
Hea[d]line (Washington Post): “Obama: The most polarizing president. Ever.”
more evidence that Scouty McWhinypants suffers from early onset Alzheimers. Anyone who actually read the gallup.com piece knows that Obama’s so-called “polarization” is, in fact, a condition of modern politics.
But that’s more than your run-of-the-mill right wing troll can process.
stands for decibels
January 30th, 2012
8:31 pm
Anyway, since I really don’t give a sh-t about what the Goopers decide to do tomorrow, I’ll bid adieu.
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:32 pm
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-31/why-gingrich-is-right-on-food-stamp-program-commentary-by-ramesh-ponnuru.html
stands for decibels
January 30th, 2012
8:32 pm
…except I’ll add, that Krugthulu has more talent in what he leaves on the side of the toilet bowl than Jm’s collected Intertubes work.
BADA BING
January 30th, 2012
8:33 pm
Police have IDed the man that stole the $1800 puppy. They found his cell phone after the theft, his name is Romyo. Police want to know…..”Romyo, Romyo….Wherefor art thou Romyo?”
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
8:33 pm
josef,
And here is an interesting article about Obama’s approach: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/31/us/politics/on-gay-rights-obama-lets-surrogates-take-the-lead.html
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:33 pm
Able-bodied adults on the main welfare program (TANF again) have to abide by work requirements — they have to work, or look for work, or train to work to receive benefits. This seems like a reasonable condition to apply to the food-stamp program, as well. Some congressional Republicans have advocated this policy, but the Obama administration hasn’t been interested.
Gingrich’s hyperbole, and the reaction to it, shouldn’t obscure the need to reform the food-stamp program as the economy improves. The program ought to be focused on people in real need — not people who are taking no steps to find work, or who happen to have had minimal contact with the welfare bureaucracy. And changes to the program ought to be accompanied by reforms to programs that raise the price of food. We know that ethanol subsidies boost food prices significantly, for example, even if the exact amount is disputed. Federal dairy policies raise the price of milk: They are designed to do so.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 30th, 2012
8:34 pm
jm: “if the Democrats aren’t going to confiscate wealth for you, care to poke them in the eye with a Republican vote?”
Well since Obama, in a different era, is easily a mainstream Republican, you could argue that a vote for him is in effect a vote for a Republican!
No, no commies on the ballot here anytime soon. Not that I’d vote for them either. Hell, they make some of the best capitalists (see Russia, China, eastern Europe, etc.)!
Speaking of communists, did you know they really had a beachhead here in the South during the civil rights era? Specially in Bear Bryant’s own Alabama. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=123771194
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:35 pm
“Q: Define marriage. A: I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman… Q: Would you support a constitutional amendment with that definition? A: No I would not. Because historically we have defined marriage in our constitution, it’s been a matter of state law.”
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:35 pm
Candidate Obama
Checked NO in response a Human Rights Campaign questionaire asking if the candidate “Supports allowing civil marriage rights for same-sex couples.”
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
8:36 pm
“Anyway, since I really don’t give a sh-t about what the Goopers decide to do tomorrow, I’ll bid adieu.”
It appears that one of the esteemed blog ladies is extremely upset.
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:38 pm
Trotsky 8:34 yep. Racist democrats finally decided they were more scared of communism than racial equality. Talk about democrats being on the wrong side of history…………
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:40 pm
Recon, if mitt wins, he’s on the way but we won’t have sown it up
Newt’s not going away too quickly, I imagine. And as long as Newt’s in, Santorum is probably in. And Paul is never leaving.
I think this thing starts to wind down after Super Tuesday
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:42 pm
and GA will be in the mix
I could see either Newt or Romney winning GA. Newt has votes as a “local”. Open primary could favor either one. If Dems want a good choice, they could vote Romney. If they want to sabotage the nomination process (even more than voting for Romney), they might intentionally go vote for Newt. Who the hell knows…… (my guess is they go for Newt to screw things up)
Meaning GA goes to Newt…..
AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater
January 30th, 2012
8:43 pm
Anyway, since I really don’t give a sh-t about what the Goopers decide to do tomorrow…
It’s all just a reality TV show for the rubes easily entertained by frauds and charlatans.
But like watching a slow motion train wreck, it is strangely compelling!
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
8:43 pm
jm,
Yep. But you also left this one out, “It is my obligation, not only as an elected official in a pluralistic society but also as a Christian, to remain open to the possibility that my unwillingness to support gay marriage is misguided…and that in years hence I may be seen as someone who was on the wrong side of history.”
josef
January 30th, 2012
8:44 pm
jewcowboy
Unh-hunh…whatever…I’ll leave it to the straight folks here to respond point by point…like I said, lukewarm at best…but, hey, given the alternatives…
And again, Prop 8 and Preacher Warren…
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
8:45 pm
jm,
You’re right it won’t be sown up but if he wins tomorrow as it appears he will, it will none the less be all over but the shouting in my opinion. Prolonging the inevitable only hurts the conservative opposition to Obama.
jm
January 30th, 2012
8:46 pm
Obama gets credit for this….. good job (much of the rest, fail)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203920204577193444258923460.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
8:46 pm
krugman. a real dumb-arse
jm. a troll with Pulitzer envy.
Just sayin’.
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
8:51 pm
“Meaning GA goes to Newt…..”
jm, I wouldn’t take that to the bank. Gingrich was a carpetbagger from PA. and who now lives in Virginia. Not really a son of Georgia or the South.
josef
January 30th, 2012
8:52 pm
occupation
The Communists were always on the ballot in Mississippi as far back as I can remember…I won’t ever forget back in ‘76 when one of the electors on the ballot, a buddy of mine, was a staunch conservative Republican…when asked why, he said simply, because I was asked to be and I think every party should be on the ballot, just because it’s not my philosophy is no reason to want them off…
Welcome to the Occupation
January 30th, 2012
8:56 pm
jm, in all seriousness I have some doubts about Reuters’ reasoning in their slap at Krugman. It seems their main argument boils down to a comparison with France and Italy:
In other words, markets have lost much more faith in the creditworthiness of Italy and France than they have in Britain’s.
But the comparison with selected individual Euro zone countries is misleading because the fate of those countries is closely tied up with the fate of the Euro zone as a whole and the complicated problems of the Euro zone as a ‘transfer zone’.
Or, why not a comparison with Greece, another Euro zone country that has also implemented savage austerity?
0311/1811
January 30th, 2012
8:56 pm
stands for decibels :
Don’t agree with a polarizing president ?
Tell the liberal Washington Post ………… not me.
AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater
January 30th, 2012
8:57 pm
josef, now that was one enlightened Republican!
It makes me wonder what happened to them all…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
8:57 pm
A restaurant in Knoxville, Tennessee refused to serve state Sen. Stacey Campfield, the man who sponsored the state’s “don’t say gay” bill, compared homosexuality to bestiality, and most recently told Michelangelo Signorile that it’s virtually impossible to spread HIV/AIDS through heterosexual sex. “I hope that Stacy Campfield now knows what if feels like to be unfairly discriminated against,” the Bistro at the Bijou wrote on its Facebook wall on Sunday. The restaurant has received an overwhelmingly positive response.
No shirt, no shoes, no brain….no service.
TaxPayer
January 30th, 2012
8:58 pm
Newt will stay in as long as he has a billionaire sugar daddy propping him up.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
9:00 pm
josef,
“whatever…”
Such a cop out word.
“I’ll leave it to the straight folks here to respond point by point”
I’m not asking for a point-by-point rebuttal. A simple acknowledgement of the fact that Obama has done much more that DADT repeal and taking a “lukewarm stance on DOMA” might seem less jejune.
“And again, Prop 8 and Preacher Warren…”
Seems like more a grudge than an argument.
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
9:05 pm
Paul Krugman is an ideologue pretending to be an economist. He’s a darling of the poorly informed and irrational left wing, which has great representation on this blog.
Disgusted
January 30th, 2012
9:14 pm
Unh-hunh…whatever…I’ll leave it to the straight folks here to respond point by point…like I said, lukewarm at best…but, hey, given the alternatives…
I don’t think a president will have much say in the issue of gay rights, given the Congressional make-up. The bottom line is that any Republican president is about 100% certain to sign any anti-gay measure. Obama is iffy, but at least there’s a chance there. If I were gay, I certainly wouldn’t want to see any Republican, with the possible exception of Ron Paul, in the White House. And I don’t believe for a second that a Republican Senate would have any hesitation at all about discarding the filibuster rule if it suits a party purpose. We need to remember that the “nuclear option” was raised as a possibility in order to get two Republican-backed Supreme Court nominees through confirmation back when the Republicans controlled the Senate. In any case, Obama is the safer bet. While he’s not 100% certain to protect gay rights, he at least is not 100% certain to act against them.
AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater
January 30th, 2012
9:14 pm
OK, as a straight person, I’ll wade in here…(BTW, I absolutely loathe that adjective, more on that in a moment)
The list that jcb provided looks very substantial and compelling to me.
Granted, I do know the particulars, not the relevance or the degree to which those acts have made a difference.
Even so, I have to believe that it is much longer than that of any previous POTUS. (I’m sure that there is some info out there to compare it to.)
So, in my relatively uninformed position, I would give the argument to jcb. (Sorry, josef, I still luv ya!)
Now for that abominable word, first, who came up with that thing???
And does it mean that non-”straight” people are curved or bent or twisted? Maybe angular or circular?
And do not even get me started on the co-opting of the term gay, I’m still pissed about that one!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
9:15 pm
Someone didn’t love you enough when you were little, did they? — Thomas Jefferson
Polly Sigh
January 30th, 2012
9:16 pm
It’s a left wing blog. If you detest it so, jump on board Kyle’s train. There’s a lot fewer cars and a lot less substance, but you’ll be amongst friends, and we can rid ourselves of a whiny know it all who knows very little.
josef
January 30th, 2012
9:17 pm
Jewcowboy
I’m on iPad so I can’t really go off right now…too slow on the keypad…
Grudge? Well, yeah…sorta like your (and my) grudges against Newt, Santorum and company. You can pooh-pooh if you like…but, then, if you’re willing to accept his salvation/redemption, then you gotta give Newt the same break….and no, I’m not putting them in the same camp…but, tepid then tepid now…
And, I found that little swipe on the thong and parade an LOL one…channeling Scout, Del, kayaker, et al, ‘ere ye?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 30th, 2012
9:18 pm
josef: “The Communists were always on the ballot in Mississippi as far back as I can remember…I won’t ever forget back in ‘76 ”
Wow, what a testament to a changed country in 36 years.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
9:20 pm
“Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?”
– Thomas Jefferson
Paulo977
January 30th, 2012
9:22 pm
Midori
January 30th, 2012
7:52 pm
The Principled Pachyderm
_____________________
Well put …is ,after all, what they are all about
josef
January 30th, 2012
9:23 pm
ZamVwt
I’m not about to say he hasn’t signed off on more than all the rest combined…but note signed off on. He has gone with the flow and the flow has been pro gay, that’s not exactly Fierce, IMHO. like I said, not back of the bus, but not at the front either…
josef
January 30th, 2012
9:27 pm
Nope. I find the whole concept of gladiators repulsive and barbaric…be it the roman arena or the contemporary fight ring…
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
9:29 pm
josef,
“too slow on the keypad…”
Sheesh I know that one. You can tell when I’m on a mobile device when I economize my words
“Well, yeah…sorta like your (and my) grudges against Newt, Santorum and company.”
Obama was quite clear on his stance on marriage equality when he was elected. If I were to judge him solely on this one issue, I would not be very happy with his approach to gay rights. But c’mon, tell me, honestly, you expected this: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/apr/16/nation/la-na-gay-couples-hospitals16-2010apr16
Because I look at that as him being a realistic fierce advocate. Maybe that “realistic” part is not what he said, but I’ll take a President who looks outside the box for wins that positively affect gay rights over an idealist who loses any time.
“I found that little swipe on the thong and parade”
Just presenting an absurdity to temper the definition of “fierce advocate”
jm
January 30th, 2012
9:30 pm
Recon 8:51, yeah, that’s why I put “local” in quotes.
Trotsky 8:56 – Greece has not successfully implemented austerity or any of their fiscal plans. their government is dysfunctional. their revenues are flat because of corruption, despite higher taxes. they’re spending more because no one can reign in their budget.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 30th, 2012
9:31 pm
Recon: “Paul Krugman is an ideologue pretending to be an economist”
I’ll let you in on a little secret here, Recon.
ALL economists are ideologues who seek to find ways to carve up data to justify their world view.
If there is a discipline that lends itself to entirely opposite conclusions based on a person’s predetermined values, it’s economics.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
9:33 pm
AmVet,
“And does it mean that non-”straight” people are curved or bent or twisted? Maybe angular or circular?”
Straight more likely referring to the “straight and narrow.” Gay referring to flamboyant.
josef
January 30th, 2012
9:35 pm
Enter your comments here
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
9:35 pm
Kamchak,
“Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?”
I freakin love that movie. Ironically, the part that hooked me was the lady flashing her boobs when the plane is out of control.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
9:37 pm
jewcowboy
Possibly the only spoof movie that has stood the test of time. The rest are cheap knock-offs.
jm
January 30th, 2012
9:40 pm
“Enter your comments here” dern ipads
josef
January 30th, 2012
9:40 pm
Ooops…d’mned iPad
Disgusted
That pretty much sums it up….
Jewcowboy
Then call yourself a Realistic Advocate…THAT I have no problem with…
jm
January 30th, 2012
9:43 pm
“Investors were seized by fresh doubts about the economic health of Portugal. Concern that the EU would break a promise not to restructure Portugal’s debt pushed 10-year yields up by 2.17 percentage points to 17.39 percent yesterday as two-year yields surged to 21 percent, both euro-era records. ”
If Obama is re-elected, and this happens in the US, remember Republicans and fiscal conservatives said: “I told you so”
AmVet - “A lot of so-called conservatives don’t know what the word means." ~Barry Goldwater
January 30th, 2012
9:44 pm
Ah ha, jcb! Color me clueless.
When I become King, we’re gonna get us a new lexicon around here! (LOL)
For me Airplane was an instant classic. Sight gags, drug references, sexual peccadilloes and absurd dialogue. I loved it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=0A5t5_O8hdA
jm
January 30th, 2012
9:46 pm
Ponder this. If you’re unemployed and gay, are you more worried about a job, or the extent of your rights?
I mean, I’d be PO’d too if someone told me I couldn’t marry my wife. But if I didn’t have a job, I’d mainly be focused on that knowing full well my “wife” and I would figure out a way to work things out over time with each other. But that a future together wouldn’t mean a damn thing if we couldn’t put food on the table.
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
9:48 pm
I don’t believe that those who’re homosexual should be denied civil rights but I don’t think they’ve been denied those rights. Further I don’t believe their right to civil rights should be at the expense of those who’re not homosexual. Should they have the right to marry? Well why marry when they can’t procreate? They do have the right to a civil union, which provides all of the legal rights associated with a union between two people including those who’re legally married. Should they have the right to adopt children? In my opinion no, but that’s a legal consideration, so mine is only a personal opinion. Do I agree with the repeal of DADT? no. Do I think that homosexuality is normal and should be taught as such to young children? no. Do I condemn homosexuals? No. I view practicing homosexual sex to be a sin, but I cannot condemn anyone who does practice it because we’re all sinners and unworthy of God’s salvation. There is no such thing as small sin versus greater sin. God views every sin as an equal abomination. That is where I come down on this issue for those who didn’t know. Taps
jm
January 30th, 2012
9:50 pm
Man (or woman), Nikki Haley will make a good VP or Presidential candidate one day……
First female president is my guess.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
9:50 pm
jm,
“If you’re unemployed and gay, are you more worried about a job, or the extent of your rights?”
Why do you have to choose one or the other?
josef
January 30th, 2012
9:51 pm
As much as I’d like to stay and continue the conversation, gotta busy one tomorrow and need my beauty rest….g’night
Fast and Furious Spending
January 30th, 2012
9:51 pm
Jay,
You need to read (and comment on, I think) the National Review article by Robert Novak concerning Joe Paterno: The Injustice Done to Joe Paterno.
As a Penn State grad (which I believe you are) I would very much like to know more. Did the Board of Trustees really hang him out to twist in the wind like this?
If they did, it’s shamless, and I’m wondering, if this is true, why the media went after JoePa like it did.
Your thoughts?
jm
January 30th, 2012
9:52 pm
Recon there are several things in your 9:48 I agree with. For a variety of reasons…..
getalife
January 30th, 2012
9:54 pm
Who are you to judge others cons?
You set a horrible example and are horrible Americans.
Get ready for discrimination against you.
Karma.
jm
January 30th, 2012
9:55 pm
jewcowboy 9:50 – you don’t. Since Mitt is running.
Obama will not foster the job creation environment America needs.
F&F Novak has a screw or two loose. JoePa got dumped because he didn’t do the most he could to stop a child molester. Of course, the whole BoT should be dumped too.
jm
January 30th, 2012
9:56 pm
getalife – we all judge, like it or not
some judge people based on their morals, some their skin color, some on their beliefs, some on their sexual orientation
you turkeys judge cons on their political beliefs all day long
so pipe down lil one
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 30th, 2012
9:59 pm
Well why marry when they can’t procreate?
Why oh why do these posters fail to comprehend that many people marry with no intent, desire or, for some, ability to procreate. Marriage has NOTHING to do with procreation.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
9:59 pm
Recon 2533 1811,
“I don’t think they’ve been denied those rights’
I’d suggest you read the 4th amendment.
“Well why marry when they can’t procreate? ”
I guess you should have asked the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, or perhaps ask Jay Leno and his wife, or even Pat Buchanan and his wife.
“They do have the right to a civil union, which provides all of the legal rights associated with a union between two people including those who’re legally married.”
Except they don’t. And even if they did, when did “separate but equal” become the motto of the US?
“Should they have the right to adopt children?”
Maybe if straight people stopped abandoning their obligations this wouldn’t be an issue. But so far straight people have proven they can’t be trusted.
“Do I agree with the repeal of DADT”
Doesn’t matter, it’s history.
“Do I think that homosexuality is normal and should be taught as such to young children? ”
You don’t have to. I knew I liked boys when I was very young, just the same as you knew you liked girls. We didn’t know all the particulars around, but you don’t have to teach nature.
“I view practicing homosexual sex to be a sin, but I cannot condemn anyone”
And luckily we live in a nation whose law preclude you from doing that…or at least that is the ideal.
getalife
January 30th, 2012
9:59 pm
jm,
In the end, you cons will admit you should have treated others with respect when you are discriminated against.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
10:00 pm
Oooh, it’s crass and frumious.
I thought you were too good for the likes of us, or as you put it, a waste of time.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:03 pm
jm,
“F&F Novak has a screw or two loose. JoePa got dumped because he didn’t do the most he could to stop a child molester. Of course, the whole BoT should be dumped too.”
You shouldn’t chug Listerine.
Jm
January 30th, 2012
10:04 pm
Getalife you earn respect
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:05 pm
“I’d suggest you read the 4th amendment.”
And by that I mean the 14th. Though protections against against unreasonable searches and seizures are very important as well. They just have little to do with marriage equality.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:07 pm
jewcowboy, apparently you haven’t heard of sodomy laws
getalife
January 30th, 2012
10:08 pm
jm,
Yup and cons deserve none.
Better think long term for the future because majorities do change.
TaxPayer
January 30th, 2012
10:09 pm
Why do you have to choose one or the other?
Because jm cannot multitask.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:09 pm
getalife,
“Get ready for discrimination against you.”
That would be the crux of many of the pundits on Fox News and the like. Fear of being treated as they’ve treated others. It would also be at the heart of the victimization rants of many christians.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:10 pm
getalife
if you think the future of the democratic party is premised solely upon the increase in minorities, you’re likely to be severely disappointed
intelligent reasonable people the world over want an intelligently run government, no matter their racial origin. they may not get it, but they want it.
Obama doesn’t run a tight ship.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:11 pm
jm,
“apparently you haven’t heard of sodomy laws”
And apparently you are like Rick Perry and haven’t heard of Lawrence v. Texas.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:12 pm
“intelligent reasonable people the world over want an intelligently run government”
Which really scares the GOP.
Martin Williams
January 30th, 2012
10:13 pm
I believe if Mitt continue to follow Newt’s Language which was an article in Sunday’s paper, he will clearly be the nominee before the GOP convention. In the 90s Newt used to tell his GOP colleagues how to attach their opponents with strong adjective words like; welfare, liberal, sick, pathetic, corruption, corrupt, disgrace, lie, waste, etc to gain GOP majority and he became speaker of the house. Now that Mitt is using the same words on him, he called him pathetic. Newts downfall came right after he was endorsed by Herman Cain. Sarah Palin did not even know if Africa was continent and she supports Newt, go figure the blind leading the blind. The GOP establishment may be stupid but not that stupid to make Newt the nominee. This time the folks in South Carolina are dead wrong.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:14 pm
jewcowboy
no I’m perfectly aware
keep in mind those laws were only recently ruled unconstitutional. point is, up until recently they existed, were passed in the past for one reason or another. even if they were rarely if ever enforced.
I was mentioning it as food for thought, that’s all.
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
10:15 pm
jewcowboy,
You come on this blog and seem to want to celebrate your sexual orientation that frankly I couldn’t care less about as I’m sure most people don’t. I posted because someone else commented referencing my name within their post and I wanted to document my position on the subject without someone else presuming to do so for me. Now you state that the law precludes me from condemning you or any other practicing homosexual. No it does not I’ve chosen not to do so on my own for the beliefs described in my previous post.
getalife
January 30th, 2012
10:15 pm
jewcowboy,
Yup they are scared of the karma but just can’t stop the hate.
It starts with their gop so called leadership and they use it on the gullible cons to get elected.
These “christians” should pray there is no hell.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
10:16 pm
“Be aware, the world needs more wares.”
– Thomas Jefferson
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:20 pm
jm,
“point is, up until recently they existed, were passed in the past for one reason or another. even if they were rarely if ever enforced.”
Not much of a point then. Miscegenation laws were passed for one reason or another. Until Loving v. VA that is.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:20 pm
jewcowboy
If the gay community wants to be treated with respect, some of its representatives should probably cease coming on here and joking and laughing hysterically about “santorum”
getalife
January 30th, 2012
10:24 pm
jm,
Nobody cares about showing you cons respect.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:27 pm
Recon,
“your sexual orientation that frankly I couldn’t care less about as I’m sure most people don’t. ”
Yet, you want laws to discriminate against gay people. Interesting.
“I wanted to document my position on the subject ”
Only you can?
“Now you state that the law precludes me from condemning you or any other practicing homosexual.”
Sorry…I should have been more clear. You can believe in whatever you choose. You just can’t use the laws of this nation to enforce your views on others. You don’t want a gay marriage, don’t get married to someone of the same sex.
Mick
January 30th, 2012
10:27 pm
drive by
Ho hum. flori-duh is up to bat and the polls are all over the place, why am I not surprised? Go newt, we love your anger and romney is going to feel the full wrath of the gingrinch….more debates please, it’s going to be a very good year….for president obama…
Recon 2533 1811
January 30th, 2012
10:28 pm
“Nobody cares about showing you cons respect.”
Not on here but you don’t really believe that conservative posters that post on this blog helping to keep jay employed and you entertained really care about your respect.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:30 pm
getalife
A (repeat), I’m not a “con”
B, I don’t give much of hoot. Any passing casual readers of Jay’s blog read the first page, the jokes, the filth, and first decide the blog is trash (not too far from the truth) and second probably pause to contemplate what kind of people would post:
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
5:42 pm
“I want Santorum.”
Head to Cheshire Bridge.
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Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
5:46 pm
Head to Cheshire Bridge.
And the jokes just keep “coming.”
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Of course its been much worse on here. I’m just saying, certain folks aren’t doing themselves any favors.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:31 pm
jm,
“If the gay community wants to be treated with respect, some of its representatives should probably cease coming on here and joking and laughing hysterically about “santorum”
Point of fact, most of the people on here that are “joking and laughing hysterically about “santorum” are straight (at least based on previous posts, but in reality who knows). And just curious, if someone was comparing your relationship to pedophilia and bestiality, how much respect would you show them?
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:31 pm
“but you don’t really believe that conservative posters that post on this blog …….. really care about your respect.”
getalife
January 30th, 2012
10:32 pm
You cons will get respect when you earn it.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:34 pm
jewcowboy
I don’t know what all Santorum has said. I’m not a fan of the guy and haven’t paid him much attention since pretty much the beginning.
You may not like the guy, but politics and civil rights are serious business (obviously). You don’t have to show him respect. There are plenty of opportunities to prove the guy isn’t worthy of the office of the presidency without resorting to jokes about “santorum”.
Geo
January 30th, 2012
10:34 pm
“Nobody cares about showing you cons respect.”
November’s fast approaching girlfriend. Better get ready rather than flapping your jowls.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:35 pm
jm,
“Of course its been much worse on here. I’m just saying, certain folks aren’t doing themselves any favors.”
Yes, because I’m sure all the bigots in the world like Santorum would turn and embrace every gay person if they would just stop making fun of him. Seems to me, people like Santorum (and many on this blog) can dish it, but when it comes flinging back in their face they run like children, crying about victimization. Perhaps if zealots like that turned down their animus, then others wouldn’t have to return in kind.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:36 pm
“You cons will get respect when you earn it.”
Getalife will get respect when he learns to speak in something longer and more insightful than a twit.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:37 pm
jm,
“There are plenty of opportunities to prove the guy isn’t worthy of the office of the presidency without resorting to jokes about “santorum”.”
But then they wouldn’t be quite as funny.
getalife
January 30th, 2012
10:38 pm
Geo,
I am ready for four more years.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:39 pm
jewcowboy
MLK (and friends) didn’t win the civil rights battle they fought by calling whitey: “honkeys” and “crackers”
They won by raising the level of discourse and appealing to the good in us, not the crass and juvenile
Geo
January 30th, 2012
10:39 pm
Better get some Ensize on line.
Geo
January 30th, 2012
10:40 pm
And a map.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:42 pm
“I am ready for four more years”
of massive deficits, slow growth, more food stamps, more welfare, more crummy unemployment.
Not I.
getalife is an obama sycophant
Geo
January 30th, 2012
10:43 pm
Nope – he’s a vacuum.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:43 pm
jm,
“MLK (and friends) didn’t win the civil rights battle they fought by calling whitey: “honkeys” and “crackers”
Sorry, but you may need to revisit history. The civil rights battle of 60’s did not only involve MLK and friends.
getalife
January 30th, 2012
10:43 pm
cons deserve no respect and that is what you will get .
Got it “twits”?
Grow up jm.
Geo
January 30th, 2012
10:44 pm
Sorry – she’s a vacuum.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:44 pm
alrighty. enough. I’m out.
Go Mitt.
Believe in America.
jm
January 30th, 2012
10:45 pm
“The civil rights battle of 60’s did not only involve MLK and friends.”
I was using a very expansive definition of “friends”. No kidding. The national mall rally wasn’t an MLK and close friends pow-wow.
Kamchak
January 30th, 2012
10:47 pm
alrighty. enough. I’m out.
Available evidence proves otherwise.
Just sayin’.
yuzeyurbrane
January 30th, 2012
10:50 pm
Let’s split the difference and guess Romney wins by 14. Newt will stay in and will pick up a slew of delegates along the way. Not to mention his personality. Slash and burn has always been his style.
jewcowboy
January 30th, 2012
10:52 pm
jm,
“The national mall rally wasn’t an MLK and close friends pow-wow.”
My point was not quite so literal. You discount people like Malcolm X, and their roles in the civil rights movement. It all wasn’t quite so polite.
Travis McGee
January 30th, 2012
10:59 pm
I don’t care if you’re the most dedicated conservative on the planet and that you’ve voted Republican since Goldwater — you’ll have to admit that your party just can’t field a viable candidate. McCain, Gingrich, Santorum, Romney — Geeeez!
A weak Republican candidate will trump the bad economy and Obama will prevail!
Billybob
January 30th, 2012
11:11 pm
bookman,
you would love for newt to give up……don’t remember you asking hussein to give up after the 4th primary……….love when the libs and lib media try to pick the other party’s candidate………can’t wait until the the general when it will be all about hussein and his socialism/marxism(’fundamental change’)……….can’t wait until you are forced to finally support or not support the socialist……….
getalife
January 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
Speaking of respect, our pols could show some for the people.
Lie to our faces, waste our money, kill our children, corruption and they think they are above the law.
Yeah, enough is enough.
captguitarman
January 31st, 2012
2:48 am
Newt is mad, his ego is hurt, and his wife was put into a bad light by the ex-wife interview with the media making big news out of it. His status as the nice, friendly, and reasonable adult in the race is now long gone, and he didn’t like all the hard ball Romney played in Iowa, and is now playin in Florida. If Romney wins big tomorrow, what will Newt do . . . whatever will he do? Will he stand back and accept that his continued presence will only help Obama win a second term? Yes, he might do that, and monkeys might fly out my butt tomorrow morning. For all his talk about putting America back on track and getting rid of a guy who has shown no leadership and has been in way over his head from day one, Newt’s ego is far more important to him than that. I’m sure that he and his ego cannot believe or accept the fact that as a Con in the Pub party, a moderate Pub is beating him. And it makes him mad . . . mad enough to make sure that Romney doesn’t win election. Newt will not stop, and he may not stop even after the election. He has no prayer of beating Obama and winning a national election . . . only Romney has that chance, and his chances are being reduced every day by all this Pub in-fighting.
Believe me, Newt doesn’t care what happens if he doesn’t win, and Paul is a Libertarian, and Santorum is about 4 to 8 years too early. The Pub establishment must be made up of complete morons to have allowed all of these debates, and most of them with long gone nitwits lie Palin, Perry, and Bachmann. Newt’s continued presence, and the the continuing Pub debates could spell the end of any meaningful Pub chance at regaining the White House in November. Why is it that I know that, but the Pub party leaders have not figured it out yet? Obama is not much of a president and even less as a leader, perhaps one of the worst in history, but Obama is waking up now because it is time to campaign, his one and only talent. Hard to believe, but true.
Normal
January 31st, 2012
6:30 am
Grand Tuesday morning all y’all…
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/01/30/political-pictures-romney-gingrich-obama-gridiron-classic/
Normal
January 31st, 2012
6:31 am
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/01/30/political-pictures-eagle-barack-obama-secret-weapon/
Normal
January 31st, 2012
6:32 am
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/01/30/political-pictures-newt-gingrich-this-guy/
Granny Godzilla
January 31st, 2012
7:07 am
I would has a sad if Newt didn’t go all the way to the convention.
Newt 2012
Holy Crap that’s funny.
Mick
January 31st, 2012
7:47 am
Another reason why I’m an ex-catholic, that church has no shame. They should be more concerned with their predatory, pedofile priests – what a disgrace-
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57368259-503544/catholics-hear-anti-obama-letter-in-church/
GT
January 31st, 2012
8:03 am
I kind of hope we have a horse race in Florida. It is a sign of how unorganized the GOP really is. Romney looks like the school teacher who has lost control of his class as Newt flatten spitballs on the blackboard. It also shows this Republican electric is just too immature to rule a nation. They rather destroy a party than compromise, after they did great damage to our government. These boys need to be contain to a lab and not let out into the environment. A close election in Florida gets us one more step towards the Republican Party self destructing, and with it goes a lot of poison this country needs to purge. Our nation in every way in 2012 is improving, that is what a close election means in Florida.
tireofit
January 31st, 2012
8:07 am
If the republican based is so principled, why are they supporting Mitt the liberal?
williebkind
January 31st, 2012
8:35 am
BORING!!!
Joseph
January 31st, 2012
8:59 am
The margin will be 20+ points Jay so you and your far left ilk can continue your vitriole against Romney and forget all about the other candidates you’ve humerously tried to attack…..
Joseph
January 31st, 2012
9:02 am
The Today Show has already accelerated their attacks on Romney so obviously they think he’ll be the nominee… Bringing up his dog riding in a pet carrier on the roof of the family car 20 years ago while showing a pic of Obama’s dog riding in the tax payer funded limo…. Why didn’t they mention flying the dog all over the country using tax dollars??? They simply left that out……
Joseph
January 31st, 2012
9:05 am
tireofit:
I realize in the mind of a liberal its hard to understand but Romney was Governor of a bright blue state…. he had to govern in the middle. Now he will be President of a dull red country. He’ll be conservative becuase thats who he is…. By the way when a failed President like Obama is the alternative Mickey Mouse would be considered conservative…..
Jay
January 31st, 2012
9:07 am
Actually, Joseph, I’ve argued from the beginning that Romney is the only candidate in the Republican field who is even conceivable as president of the United States.
It’s just taken the conservatives a little while to accept the truth of that assessment, and even so they’re doing it grudgingly.
tireofit
January 31st, 2012
9:20 am
Joseph, great rationalization.
GT
January 31st, 2012
9:25 am
tireofit you got love the Republicans. They get beat by Obama so they dress a black man up, try mightily to cover up this poor character, and bring him out as a 2012 knock off to what they interpret as an answer to Obama. They test drive it and the wheels fall off. The fact that O has been married for decades to the same woman, apparently no affairs,has wonderful children, has his mother in law living with him, who was a very successful woman in her own right and they think any black body equals this man really puts us into the camp of these people’s thinking or lack of it. Seems somehow the far right should be more like O and the far left should be Cain, but the respect for woman is a Democratic thing so that wouldn’t work would it.
Then they pull out a guy who really matches their base, mean, arrogant, loose with the facts and a taste for the finer things in life including the ladies. The problem here is he was a family man that has been married three times, a Christian that was Roman Catholic and a character that had been fined for ethics violations by his own party. A party I might ad that brought us Nixon, so how high can that bar be. It is like one of the Hollywood parties where the bring a corps into the room, put it in a seat, have a cigarette hanging from it’s mouth and half the party doesn’t realize the guy is dead.
In the end they have found the only moderate in the entire party which in itself makes you wonder how many lies this guy has to tell just to make it though the primaries. He is like a gay guy in a straight world or even worse a hookytonk bar of rednecks.
Somewhere is all this I keep waiting for the church to disassociate themselves from these fools before they do irrefutable damage to what use to be a real light in the darkness. As people mutate for their own rewards, the church should be constant. Not only have these people done great damage to our country, they have bombed our churches for their own gain.
Don Abernethy
January 31st, 2012
9:45 am
Romney is nothing more than a liberal Democrat.
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
January 31st, 2012
9:55 am
Newt is like Tanya Harding and poor little Mitt is his Nancy Kerrigan.
Go Tanya!
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
January 31st, 2012
10:06 am
Hey Mitt is the economy better under OBAMA ? Yes
MITT says he wishs he was a latino so he could self deport, awesome….
Paulo977
January 31st, 2012
10:22 am
czpt guitarman :Obama is not much of a president and even less as a leader, perhaps one of the worst in history
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Ah!! ignorance speaks…what is it with you cons?