Missives from the land of the birthers

I’m in the courtroom of Judge Michael Malihi, awaiting arguments in a case attempting to remove Barack Obama from the 2012 Georgia presidential ballot.

Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans. The conversations are thick with various birthed theories being bandied about.

Dressed tastefully in black and wearing a pearl choker, The redoubtable Orly Taitz swept in a few minutes ago, making a star’s entrance amid whispers of “look, there she is!”

A bailiff has summoned attorneys for the plaintiffs and defendants into chambers for a pre-hearing conference. Since the Obama camp has decided to boycott the hearing, only the four plaintiffs’ attorneys, including Taitz, are in the session.

The plaintiffs have queued up a number of exhibits, including CBS and ABC videos reporting on Obama’s time in Indonesia. No sign of whether such exhibits will be allowed.

Can you clean up and post the below on my blog on an entry headlined “Missives ….?”

I’m in the courtroom of Judge Michael Malihi, awaiting arguments in a case attempting to remove Barack Obama from the 2012 Georgia presidential ballot.

Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans. The conversations are thick with various birthed theories being bandied about.

Dressed tastefully in black and wearing a pearl choker, The redoubtable Orly Taitz swept in a few minutes ago, making a star’s entrance amid whispers of “look, there she is!”

A bailiff has summoned attorneys for the plaintiffs and defendants into chambers for a pre-hearing conference. Since the Obama camp has decided to boycott the hearing, only the four plaintiffs’ attorneys, including Taitz, are in the session.

The plaintiffs have queued up a number of exhibits, including CBS and ABC videos reporting on Obama’s time in Indonesia. No sign of whether such exhibits will be allowed.

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Quotemeister

January 26th, 2012
10:32 am

“HAHAHAHAHAHA! This is gonna be great.” Quotemeister

N-GA

January 26th, 2012
10:32 am

Georgians should be proud!

Jerome Horwitz

January 26th, 2012
10:33 am

Is my brother Moe there too? And Larry? If so I’m on my way. This court could use some real stooges!

Midori

January 26th, 2012
10:33 am

Oily, Oily, Oily

that woman truly needs a life

SOUTHERN ATL

January 26th, 2012
10:35 am

This is an embarrassing day for the state of Georgia!

Midori

January 26th, 2012
10:36 am

Southern ATL – At least we now know how Arizona feels :lol:

Normal

January 26th, 2012
10:37 am

I wonder if Georgia left the Union now, would anyone care… :roll:

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
10:37 am

GA: the laughingstock of the nation for various reasons.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
10:37 am

most of them older white Americans.

RACIST! BOOKMAN U R A RACIST FOR NOTICING!!!!11!!

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
10:38 am

Jay, if any of these good folks have any insight on where this uppity black intruder came from and what his intentions are in seeking to lead the free world, let us know!

I just hope we don’t have to offer up any first born in sacrifice to get him to go back to where came from.

It’s just terrible. To live to see this day come.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
10:39 am

Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans.

So you checked their birth certificates?

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
10:40 am

jewcowboy: “GA: the laughingstock of the nation for various reasons.”

Yeah can you just imagine if we had a state government led by a flaming socialist like New Jersey or something. They’d show em! They’d quash this nonsense in the blink of an eye!

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
10:41 am

Golly I’d love to be there……

Paul Brounshirt

January 26th, 2012
10:42 am

ByteMe: “Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans.

So you checked their birth certificates”

Racial profiling alive and well at the AJC, a paper that has sent one of its minions to slur this honest example of democracy and freedom at work.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
10:42 am

Welcome to Georgia. Laughingstock of the Republic!

And damn proud of it!

Mr. Snarky

January 26th, 2012
10:43 am

What a bunch of dummies!

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
10:44 am

Racial profiling alive and well at the AJC

Does your wee-wee hurt as well?

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
10:44 am

And there to the left is Scout and who’s the old white guy dressed up like Paul Revere next to him and aren’t those the North Georgia terrorists over there? Are they on trial today. — Scenes from ToonTown.

RB from Gwinnett

January 26th, 2012
10:44 am

I wasn’t aware Americans had the option of ignoring court subpoenas? I think I’ll try that approach too if ever needed since the precedent has been set.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
10:44 am

Paul, obviously common sense is not one of your strengths!

What do you think they are?

Kenyans?

LOL…

Jay

January 26th, 2012
10:44 am

Ms. Taitz is now going through her witness list. She has alleged so far that Obama’s name is not Obama but Soetero, and thus cannot be listed as Obama on the ballot. Her evidence is a school log from Indonesia listing a Barack Soetero.

She further alleges that his SSI number is fraudulent, stolen from somebody in Connecticut.

Frankly, she’s easily the worst lawyer I have ever seen in a courtroom. The judge has had to repeatedly admonish her for failing the most basic of courtroom procedures. Early in her presentation, she turned her back on the judge to address the audience instead. The judge told her to speak to the bench, not her crowd of admirers.

We are now being treated to “expert” testimony and “evidence” that the Hawaii birth certificate is a fraud.

Surreal.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
10:45 am

There are days (ok, nights, usually) when I pop in here and see Jay’s stuck baby-sitting some poor, misguided, likely early-onset Alzheimer’s cases who post here and I think I wouldn’t take that gig if you paid me triple his salary.

And then there are days like this when I think he’s probably got the coolest job inside the Perimeter and I might do it for free. So there ya go.

Anyhow, do they sell popcorn at this Oily Taintathon, Jay?

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
10:45 am

Jay – did you bring popcorn???

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
10:46 am

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
10:46 am

“she’s easily the worst lawyer I have ever seen in a courtroom”

But how is she as a Dentist and Real Estate Agent?

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
10:47 am

did you bring popcorn???

what an undignified question to ask.

godless heathen

January 26th, 2012
10:47 am

Must be something to it since the AJC has dispatched their ace columnist to the proceedings. Nothing lends cred like newspaper coverage.

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
10:47 am

“She further alleges that his SSI number is fraudulent, stolen from somebody in Connecticut.”

don’t let him near a deck of cards!!!

he’s the Indo-manchurian-muslim-sociamalist Candidate!

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
10:48 am

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
10:48 am

Frankly, she’s easily the worst lawyer I have ever seen in a courtroom. The judge has had to repeatedly admonish her for failing the most basic of courtroom procedures

If it were night we could play a drinking game based on who can guess how many minutes before the thing gets thrown out.

Wait a minute, where’s Sinkwich? Where’s JKL2? Maybe we can play that drinking game yet.

Ivan Cohen

January 26th, 2012
10:49 am

Gomer Pyle said it best “shazam”! Someone cue up Vicki Lawrence’s song because obviously the “lights” are still out in Georgia. “100 points of light” in a courtroom.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
10:49 am

barking frog

January 26th, 2012
10:49 am

I think it is a mistake for Obama’s attorneys to boycott. My
experience is don’t mess with the judges.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
10:50 am

Wow, Jay, if the zoolike atmosphere down here is any indication, it must be bedlam over by the courtroom. How does it look? Any bloody noses yet among all the cameramen?

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
10:51 am

RB

Well President Obama is certainly not the first…..see both Washington and Jefferson.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
10:53 am

Well Frog, this is an ALJ hearing not a state or superior court. The decision is completely reviewable de novo.

DBCOOPER

January 26th, 2012
10:53 am

More distractions from the left leaning media. LOOK at my right hand while in my left America sinks further into the Abyss.

Lets look at the numbers people. Does someone’s ideology come before the health of our nation? Is the color of Obama’s skin matter more than the fact black people are struggling more than almost anytime in modern history..Cities like Detriot and Jackson MS are withering away under unemployment, lack of anyway out etc.

It begs the question? If Obama was white and Republican or just white? And the country was sinking like it has in the past three years. Would all this support and Left vitrial and accusations of racism? I think not.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
10:53 am

So, wait… somehow the birth certificate and newspaper advertising from 1961 is a fake, but a school log from Indonesia in the latter ’60’s is legit?

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
10:53 am

Actually, Obama does have a fierce defense representative there…Jay Bookman.

carlosgvv

January 26th, 2012
10:53 am

It looks as though certain State of Georgia officials have a sworn duty to keep us the laughing stock of the Nation. Is it any wonder that so many Americans have nothing but contempt for us when this foolish racist behavior takes center stage?

getalife

January 26th, 2012
10:54 am

Where are your papers oily?

Halftrack

January 26th, 2012
10:54 am

We have a fundamental problem here. The President should not be allowed to abandon a court order. He could send his lawyer, or other representatives. To ignore this order is a slap in the face of justice and civility. He is not above the law. The Constitution says that the President is to be a natural born citizen. Either the Supreme Court or Congress: ie Senate should be responsible to certify all candidates for President as being legitimate. The lack of accountability is over the top.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
10:56 am

Are there any real attorneys in that courtroom? They better have some “real” experts to challenge a birth certificate certified by the State of Hawaii. Have they never heard of the 10th Amendment? How about issue preclusion?

mm

January 26th, 2012
10:56 am

” wasn’t aware Americans had the option of ignoring court subpoenas?”

So you are giving Bush and his cronies a free pass on that one? What a surprise.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
10:57 am

Anybody recognize you yet Jay? If you someone jumps up, points at you and shouts “antic-christ” you better run for the door! :)

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
10:57 am

“Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans. ”

JAY, Im Curious………How many other people in the courtroom that’s NOT staff/employees are minorities??

Any bets anyone? :-)

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
10:57 am

dB – I believe this is your opportunity to post the Kenyan birth certificate link again …

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
10:57 am

DBCOOPER,

“More distractions from the left leaning media.”

It’s the media’s fault that some nutjobs are filing frivolous lawsuits? Way to shift the blame.

“Does someone’s ideology come before the health of our nation?”
Ask the nutjobs that file these frivolous suits.

I love how you blame the left for what the stupid crap the right is doing. What it must me like to live in your world.

Jay

January 26th, 2012
10:58 am

Attorneys for two previous plaintiffs argued the “natural citizenship” angle, introducing Obama’s books as evidence that his father was not a citizen. The theory is that you cannot be a natural-born citizen unless you were born here and BOTH parents were citizens.

One of the attorneys was state Rep. Mark Hatfield, Republican from Waycross. He asked the judge tobuild Obama and his attorneys in contempt for refusing to appear. Another attorney accused Obama of contempt “not just for this court but for the whole judicial branch.”

The judge cut short that rant.

Judging from his body language, Malihi is not happy to be here. But maybe that’s just me.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
10:58 am

We have a fundamental problem here. The President should not be allowed to abandon a court order.

Only “fundamental problem” I see is your understanding of how the Constitution made the three branches of government equals. The court has no standing to subpeona the President, because to force him to comply would imply that the court is greater than the executive… and it’s not.

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
10:58 am

I need to see your long-form birth certificate, Ms. Orly, before we can proceed because new Georgia law prohibits any illegal aliens from working for any government agency. Now, which Georgia county were you born in, for the record? — The Judge

Duper

January 26th, 2012
10:59 am

what’s not to discredit/validate?
Twistin’ the day away

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
10:59 am

Americans had the option of ignoring court subpoenas?

It is not a COURT subpoena. It is a hearing agency subpoena and different rules apply. These are often the nuances that are not understood by the general public reading from newspaper accounts without the complete details and training. But if you want to be fully informed….OSAH is your friend. It even has videos for the reading disinclined.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:00 am

Deport oily today Judge.

JimR

January 26th, 2012
11:00 am

Why did you not report on the cases of the first two plaintiffs? They are not arguing BHO’s citizenship status, they are arguing that he was not eligible to be POTUS due to not being a natural born citizen, as both of his parents were not citizens.

That said. the documentation questions that Orly Taitz’s witnesses are bringing up certainly are interesting. Why haven’t we heard about these documentation problems much from the AJC?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
11:00 am

Halftrack,

“To ignore this order is a slap in the face of justice and civility.”

For the admin judge to not dismiss this as completely frivolous and admonish those who filed the case is a slap in the face of justice and civility.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:02 am

jimr,

birthers should be deported.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:02 am

They can try to hang their hats on the natural born question. That is the only colorable argument that has viability.

Contempt for the GA hearing? Hmmm a whine by the people who have contempt for the federal executive branch. :lol:

Me

January 26th, 2012
11:02 am

Maybe the US constitution will finally be followed!! At least all the great service men who died and fought for this great country have another state to be proud of!! All the socialist/communist that are Georgia haters, you can always move to China and renounce your citizenship! If you LIKE Obama you will LOVE them!!! Oh and this isn’t just happening in GA. There are MANY of these same ballot challenges already filed in DOZENS of states!!! Long live the the true Americans who actually love this country and the freedoms that it offers!!

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:03 am

Goodness. What does the race of people in the courtroom matter? Are “white people” now going to be dismissed as merely biased? What kind of a country has this turned into?

I love this response to Obama’s laywer’s complaint:

“In following the procedures set forth in the Georgia Election Code, I expect the administrative law judge to report his findings to me after his full consideration of the evidence and law. Upon receipt of the report, I will fully and fairly review the entire record and initial decision of the administrative law judge.

Anything you and your client place in the record in response to the challenge will be beneficial to my review of the initial decision; however, if you and your client [Obama] choose to suspend your participation in the OSAH proceedings, please understand that you do so at your own peril.”

From the GA Secretary of State’s office.

LOL. Pwnd.

Jay

January 26th, 2012
11:03 am

Her current witness is laying out the grounds upon which Barack Obama could be arrested and deported for falsely claiming US citizenship.

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
11:03 am

Jay
January 26th, 2012
10:58 am

What does make Obama and his lawyers different than everyday citizens? Why isn’t he held in contempt or something? What would happen if I was defendant in a case and refused to show up?

BTW, this whole thing a crock of shyte and embarrasses GA even more…just wondering.

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
11:04 am

“most of them older white Americans” – Just curious as to why this matters?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:04 am

JimR–You are wrong they are arguing it all. And the deserve to look silly for not chosing their best arguments and leaving out the silliness of Tates.

Jeff Young

January 26th, 2012
11:04 am

http://www.art2superpac.com/ is where you can watch Orly Taitz make her case. There are a few funny moments in the proceedings, but this is a serious case that can influence the future of our great nation.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:05 am

Perhaps the President’s new power to lock up Americans can come into play here for oily and her gop friends.

Send them to gitmo.

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:05 am

Byteme wrote: “Only “fundamental problem” I see is your understanding of how the Constitution made the three branches of government equals. The court has no standing to subpeona the President, because to force him to comply would imply that the court is greater than the executive… and it’s not.”

The court is subpoenaing *candidate* Obama. Does a President get a free pass as to ballot rules? I think not.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
11:06 am

Really?,

“We as tax paying citizens have the right to know who this man in the White House is.”
The State of HI told you who he is, as had the Clinton political machine, John McCain and the GOP. Sorry if you choose not to listen, but the courts are not supposed to be there to help the willfully ignorant.

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
11:06 am

jewcowboy

BRAVO!

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:06 am

Just curious as to why this matters?

I think Jay is playing up the senility angle.

Embarrased for GA

January 26th, 2012
11:07 am

Goodbye Tea Party. Hello Moonshine Caucus. Perhaps Orly could do something more useful – like start a Foundation to Stop Neo-Nazis from Sodomizing Farm Animals.

Midori

January 26th, 2012
11:07 am

“most of them older white Americans” – Just curious as to why this matters?

it would be a waste of keystrokes to try to explain it to you.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:08 am

Does a President get a free pass as to ballot rules?

No, but the Parties are responsible for determining who gets on the ballot, not the states and not the Secretary of State’s office. That’s the law here in Georgia. But I’m guessing you didn’t know that, so I’ll give you a pass for now. Read up!

JF McNamara

January 26th, 2012
11:08 am

Jay,

Is Kyle there. If so, is he sitting with the birthers cheering on Orly and her mad band.

Midori

January 26th, 2012
11:08 am

who were you yesterday Jane?

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
11:09 am

Really?

January 26th, 2012
11:02 am

You sound ridiculously stoooooooop!d.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:10 am

wow, the ALJ is letting them testify as to deportation? Does he believe he has immigration powers?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
11:10 am

“Long live the the true Americans who actually love this country and the freedoms that it offers!!”

The irony drips intensely from that statement.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
11:10 am

Really? – ““We as tax paying citizens have the right to know who this man in the White House is.”

Well perhaps you and the rest of the GOP machine should have asked in the 2 year run up to Obama being elected President. Or, is it your contention that Obama was allowed to win as part of some grand Republican plan?

Adam

January 26th, 2012
11:11 am

You know, I wish I was there. Can’t wait to see how this turns out.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:11 am

There should be consequences for lying about our President.

I hope this judge locks oily and the gop up for this treason..

Adam

January 26th, 2012
11:12 am

Butch: Well perhaps you and the rest of the GOP machine should have asked in the 2 year run up to Obama being elected President

They did and he released his birth certificate. The short form that is accepted by everyone except a small minority of the American public for ONLY ONE GUY in the entire history of people who take any office.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:12 am

The court is subpoenaing *candidate* Obama.

No, they are subpoenaing President Obama. He is the President, the head of the Executive branch, the branch that would be responsible for enforcing the subpoena, which means it can’t be enforced without his consent.

And if you go with the tortured “logic” that it’s only about his 2012 ballot qualifications, then you are ignoring that if the ballot qualifications are found wanting that would invalidate his position as President, so it’s really all about the latter.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
11:13 am

getalife – “I hope this judge locks oily and the gop up for this treason..”

I’d be satisifed if he just stuck them with the bill. :)

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:13 am

ByteMe,

I have a question for you, though. Don’t the parties have to certify that the candidate is eligible? (I think I saw forms signed by the Democrat party to that effect. Nancy Pelosi changed the form — it’s different in HI from the lower 48, so that the DNC didn’t have to state that Obama was eligible according to election laws but according to party laws.)

If, for example, the Georgia Republican Party put up, for the sake of argument, a native Cuban, wouldn’t there be some legal ability to stop it?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
11:13 am

Peadawg,

“Just curious as to why this matters?”

Perhaps to illustrate the setting for the scene in the courtroom.

Paulo977

January 26th, 2012
11:14 am

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
10:46 am
____________________
Thank you for at least trying to educate RB!!!

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:14 am

We as tax paying citizens have the right to know who this man in the White House is.

So you’re saying that FOX News and the entire rightwing blogosphere really sucks at their job of investigative reporting. Right?

Jay

January 26th, 2012
11:14 am

Excellent. The judge asked Taitz to give her closing argument. In the middle of doing so, she decided to turn into her own witness and sat in the witness chair to give testimony

The judge finally stopped her.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
11:16 am

Jane – “I have a question for you, though. Don’t the parties have to certify that the candidate is eligible?”

I have another question. Why didn’t someone on the Republican side come up with the brilliant strategy to contest his eligibilty prior to Obama winning the Whitehouse?

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:16 am

Butch,

I think they should be charged with treason and then they would have to pay lawyers to fight it.

I hope the President’s lawyers are working on charges.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:16 am

Don’t the parties have to certify that the candidate is eligible?

Yes, that is correct. And they did certify it. And — by law — the State of Georgia is not in a position to question it.

And as for your “I think I saw where someone changed the form…” nonsense, I’ll just let you relive the glory that was McCain’s defeat at the hands of the Marxist-in-Chief.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:16 am

Make them pay judge.

jconservative

January 26th, 2012
11:17 am

“The Constitution says that the President is to be a natural born citizen. Either the Supreme Court or Congress: ie Senate should be responsible to certify all candidates for President as being legitimate.”

Halftrack, the Supreme Court has ruled 3 times that Obama is a natural born US citizen and meets the constitutional requirements to hold the office of President of the US.

Also, in the one case it hads they ruled that John McCain was a natural born US citizen and met the requirements ffor the presidency.

And if this case reaches the Supreme Court they will rule the same way again.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:17 am

The judge finally stopped her.

Not before more brain cells died and were not replaced.

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
11:17 am

@N-GA
January 26th, 2012
10:32 am
Georgians should be proud!
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Proud?

Proverbs 16:5
Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord; be assured, he will not go unpunished.

Proverbs 29:23
One’s pride will bring him low, but he who is lowly in spirit will obtain honor.

Galatians 6:3
For if anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself.

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
11:18 am

“The judge asked Taitz to give her closing argument. In the middle of doing so, she decided to turn into her own witness and sat in the witness chair to give testimony”

:lol:

seeeeeeeeeeend in the cloooooooowns …

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
11:19 am

Gotta go with jay on this one, what a waste of courtroom time.

Mavis Rooster

January 26th, 2012
11:19 am

Whenever someone doesn’t just automatically believe that the Emperor is well dressed all the mental midgets starts talking about how embarassing it is.

USMC

January 26th, 2012
11:20 am

What a waste of taxpayers’ money and a complete farce! :-)

WOODSTOCK MIKE

January 26th, 2012
11:20 am

The main issue you hear about from Democrats is the tax issue, the 1% vs the 99%.

I was out with some friends last night, a close friend of mine who is a Democrat made roughly 38K in 2011. He just did his taxes and after his deductions he paid virtually zero federal income tax, he received a refund of over $4000. He asked why there is so much talk about the rich not paying enough taxes? He asked how is the system unfair if he paid almost nothing in federal income tax?

The whole Democrat stategy of making people think the tax system is unfair to the 99% is a pathetic joke.

I do wonder what Democrats think will be different when a guy like Mitt Romney pays 5-10% higher in taxes, do they really think that’s going to change their lives?? For this issue to generate so many headlines you would think it would actually have an impact on the 99%. Why do Democrats waste their time?

detritusUSA

January 26th, 2012
11:20 am

I don’t know who are more frightening, the idiots who brought this to court, or the idiots who comment here in support of it. The state song should be changed from Georgia on my mind to Georgia out of its mind!

jconservative

January 26th, 2012
11:20 am

“The theory is that you cannot be a natural-born citizen unless you were born here and BOTH parents were citizens.”

Jay, John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone not in the US, yet the Supreme Court ruled in his favor.

Remember everyone, the Constitution says what the Supreme Court says it says.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
11:20 am

Be careful of what you wish for….President Joe Biden……Yikes.

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
11:21 am

“Perhaps to illustrate the setting for the scene in the courtroom.”

Jay could have done that without bringing race into this. Just sayin…

Normal

January 26th, 2012
11:21 am

What I want to know is what kind of ‘merican name is Orly Taitz?

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:21 am

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
11:21 am

“What a waste of taxpayers’ money and a complete farce!”

Amen!

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:22 am

jconservative,

I never heard that the Supreme Court took up any eligibility case for either candidate in 2008. Do you have a link to that?

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:22 am

He asked how is the system unfair if he paid almost nothing in federal income tax?

Because there’s a sizeable contingent of millionaires who paid nothing as well because of loopholes written especially for millionaires.

Normal

January 26th, 2012
11:22 am

…now if she’d have been named Earl Tate…Then she’s me ‘merican….

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:23 am

jconservative,

I am pretty sure it was the Congress, not the Supreme Court.

And McCain was considered a NBC because his parents were U.S. Citizens.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:23 am

Jay could have done that without bringing race into this.

And here I thought he was doing ageism, not racism. And I still want him to check to make sure they were all “Americans”. Seems fitting.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
11:24 am

RB — “I wasn’t aware Americans had the option of ignoring court subpoenas? I think I’ll try that approach too if ever needed since the precedent has been set.”

Indeed, and Karl Rove was the one who set it.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
11:25 am

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:23 am

Is Marco Rubio a NBC in your eyes?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:25 am

No Jane there was not a Supreme Court case in 2008 on the issue. Jcon is slightly wrong. The Constitution is interpreted by the entire judicial branch, however the Supreme Court is the ultimate decided. However you are aware that we have had Presidents who’s parents where not born in the US before? And Mitt’s father was born in Mexico, is Mitt natural born?

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:26 am

“But I’m sad to say, I’m on my way
Won’t be back for many a day
My heart is down, my head is turning around
I had to leave a little girl in Kingston town”
–Thomas Jefferson

Jason

January 26th, 2012
11:26 am

I saw the proceedings online. The testimonies were kept to a minimum. Perhaps much more evidence were submitted in writing. The Judge, in a few instances, intervened to speed along the witnesses and asked why evidence was relevant. Orly Taitz called herself as a witness at one point to tell of evidence she discovered personally.

Of course all this has political overtones and one wonders if the Judges and Politicians involved can truly separate themselves and rule according to law and nothing but the law.

Paulo977

January 26th, 2012
11:26 am

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:27 am

And McCain was considered a NBC because his parents were U.S. Citizens.

Got a case to support that Jane? Or just your hope that that is how natural born is interpreted?

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
11:27 am

“Jay could have done that without bringing race into this.”

He was just painting the scene for us, since we arent there.

JF McNamara

January 26th, 2012
11:27 am

The wild thing about it is that Orly is a Russian by birth, and migrated to Israel for college. She didn’t even become American (or live in America) until she married and moved here in 1987. Obama is more American than she is by any standard.

larry

January 26th, 2012
11:27 am

Is Ms. Taitz in this country legally ?

And i might add, this is making our Secretary of State look pretty damn foolish.

Maybe he should be recalled for letting this get as far as he did.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:27 am

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 26th, 2012
11:27 am

Only leftists care what the birthers are saying. I suppose, similarly, only conservatives worry about what crazed leftists (e.g., environmentalists, pro-abortionists, anti-military kooks) say.

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
11:29 am

“He was just painting the scene for us, since we arent there.”

Ohh ok ;) .

“I wasn’t aware Americans had the option of ignoring court subpoenas?”

Yeah I’m wondering the same thing on this one.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
11:29 am

Really? — “Hey OBOTS… ask yourself this….. “How would I react if this were Bush on trial instead of Obama?” There’s your answer…. you would hit the roof!”

Bush and his staff repeatedly refused to answer questions, to respond to subpoenas or to be placed under oath, and you and your ideological compatriots cheered him on.

So you can suck on it now.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
11:30 am

Better to be thought of as a bunch of backwoods, bumpkin rubes than to have a trial like this and remove all doubt!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:30 am

Only leftists care what the birthers are saying

Yes thats it Raggy…… Because leftists filed this complaint. :roll: And I bet Scout will launch something in your direction for calling him a leftist.

Drive By

January 26th, 2012
11:31 am

Mike in Woodstock, your friend did pay income taxes. He got a refund because he had overpaid $4000 from withholding income tax from his paycheck. Just because one gets a refund doesn’t necessarily mean one did not pay taxes.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:31 am

Yeah I’m wondering the same thing on this one.

Asked and answered.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:32 am

Yeah I’m wondering the same thing on this one.

You wouldn’t be wondering if you had read the comments here.

Just sayin’.

mm

January 26th, 2012
11:32 am

“Amazing how many look the other way but if this were a Republican, this would be on every channel live and in every newspaper.

Sorry dude, dems aren’t stupid enough to keep making fools of themselves in court.

Hey OBOTS… ask yourself this…..
“How would I react if this were Bush on trial instead of Obama?” There’s your answer…. you would hit the roof! Who’s the racists now?

So all lefties are black? You really are stupid.

Normal

January 26th, 2012
11:33 am

Don’t worry about those old white guys…they are just a group Tea Party members waiting for their Social Security checks…

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
11:33 am

“Better to be thought of as a bunch of backwoods, bumpkin rubes than to have a trial like this and remove all doubt!”

I think that ship sailed with the guy who had the 9/11 Conspiracy theory powerpoint presentation.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
11:33 am

“He was just painting the scene for us, since we arent there.”

“Ohh ok”

Well, he could have said, “they are only 4 minorities in the courtroom and they are all staff or employees” :-)

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:34 am

KeepUpTheGoodFight,

You mentioned Mitt’s father being born in Mexico. But he was a U.S. Citizen – otherwise, I don’t think he’d have been Governor of Michigan. Mr. Obama Sr. was never a U.S. Citizen.

The birther point is that an NBC has to have a U.S. Citizen for both parents. I don’t know the answer to this, but I do hope the Supreme Court does rule on it someday to clear it up.

There are other nit-picky legal issues, like Mr. Obama qualifying for aid as a foreign student. Some people suspect this as a reason he won’t release his college papers. His mother renamed him Soebarkah Soetoro when he was in Indonesia — there are just weird things.

This is all semantics, but some of the things look strange.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
11:35 am

sooth,

I was just pulling your leg. :)

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
11:35 am

Mavis Rooster,

“Whenever someone doesn’t just automatically believe that the Emperor is well dressed all the mental midgets starts talking about how embarassing it is”

Yeah…the fact the State of HI produced both a certified electronic copy and the original birht certificate means nothing, huh?

jconservative

January 26th, 2012
11:36 am

Jane

See – supremecourt.gov

Three separate cases sent to the court and the court refused to hear the cases.

The last one was 8/16/2010 as follows:

“10A56
TAITZ, ORLY V. MACDONALD, THOMAS D., ET AL.
The application for stay addressed to Justice Alito and
referred to the Court is denied.”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:37 am

Jane, again you are arguing the conclusion you desire. If the question is what does natural born mean, then sorry girl its all up for discussion and the nuances determined. Again, if you have a court decision, cite it.

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
11:37 am

I didn’t see anything, kam and keep, explaining why Obama isn’t being treated as a regular citizen. Why doesn’t Obama have to follow the same set of rules as everyone else? Is it b/c he has the title of “President”?

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:37 am

“It’s no fun being an illegal alien, I tell ya
It’s no fun being an illegal alien, no no no no no
It’s no fun being an illegal alien, I mean it when I tell ya that
It’s no fun being an illegal alien,
An illegal alien, O.K.”
–Thomas Jefferson

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
11:37 am

“I think that ship sailed with the guy who had the 9/11 Conspiracy theory powerpoint presentation.”

Only if you believe that a single airplane can turn a 110-story, 80,000-ton office tower into powder.

Jimmy62

January 26th, 2012
11:38 am

I’m not a birther, but it does make one wonder. What if someone came up with incontrovertible proof that a sitting President wasn’t born in the US? Does everything he/she did become null and void? Is he immediately out of office? What if we then find out Senators knew? Do they go to jail? Does the government completely collapse?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
11:39 am

I love the smell of wingnut in the morning.

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
11:39 am

““Whenever someone doesn’t just automatically believe that the Emperor is well dressed all the mental midgets starts talking about how embarassing it is””

yet, people still follow Orly Taitz … despite the fact she’s a nutty-nut-nut …

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
11:39 am

“like Mr. Obama qualifying for aid as a foreign student. Some people suspect this as a reason he won’t release his college papers. His mother renamed him Soebarkah Soetoro when he was in Indonesia — there are just weird things.”

WTF does any of this have to do with him being a NBC citizen? Not a dayum thing. You letting your conspiracy theorist show.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:39 am

And with a single lightbulb moment…. Jimmy stepped into the conspiracy net.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

January 26th, 2012
11:39 am

“Because there’s a sizeable contingent of millionaires who paid nothing as well because of loopholes written especially for millionaires.”

Oh, so you mean the people that pay nothing are mad about other people that paid nothing, and for the record, there is an extremely low amount of millionaires that paid no taxes so your information is incorrect. Classic case of worrying to much about other people, how about just worrying about yourself, getting angry at rich people won’t solve your problems.

But, getting mad at rich people is clearly the way Democrats have to get their votes so they need to push the class warfare hard to win an election.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
11:39 am

Sooth out — got work to do. You know, work?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:40 am

Hmmm…. If you look at the amended complaint Orly asked for 6 hours for direct and 4 hours for cross. Jay could be there awhile. :D

WOODSTOCK MIKE

January 26th, 2012
11:41 am

Here’s the Democrat strategy to make our economy thrive…

Give absolutely no incentives to make money and be successful.

Adam

January 26th, 2012
11:41 am

Peadawg: I do not have an answer for you, but I would guess it does have a lot to do with the fact that he is the President. I think it’s generally understood that you can’t just subpoena the President for any little thing, apparently including war crimes. Seriously though, as the head of the executive branch, who would enforce the subpoenas?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
11:41 am

Mik — “Classic case of worrying to much about other people”

I agree. Ms. Taitz really should have dropped this case a long time ago.

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:42 am

JOE Cool,

The point I was trying to make was asking whether he could legally be considered as a citizen of another country. There’s absolutely nothing conspiratorial about it.

From the NYT:

“In a paper written 20 years ago for the Yale Law Journal on the natural-born enigma, Jill Pryor, now a lawyer in Atlanta, said that any legal challenge to a presidential candidate born outside national boundaries would be “unpredictable and unsatisfactory.”

“If I were on the Supreme Court, I would decide for John McCain,” Ms. Pryor said in a recent interview. “But it is certainly not a frivolous issue.”

jim

January 26th, 2012
11:42 am

@Jimmy62 No. Congress would have to remove him from office by impeaching him, then Biden would become President. All spelled out in the constitution.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
11:42 am

KUTGF — “If you look at the amended complaint Orly asked for 6 hours for direct and 4 hours for cross.”

Sometimes Google takes a little while to bring back the search results you want. :D

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
11:42 am

WOODSTOCK MIKE – “But, getting mad at rich people is clearly the way Democrats have to get their votes so they need to push the class warfare hard to win an election”

Newt Gingrich is a Democrat? Did I miss a memo?

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
11:42 am

“Ms. Taitz really should have dropped this case a long time ago”

two words:

meal

ticket.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
11:43 am

rb

Did you mind much when karl rove just turned his nose up at a congressional subpoena? Well, DID YOU????

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:43 am

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
11:44 am

“Newt Gingrich is a Democrat? Did I miss a memo?”

ewwww … no thanks … do not want!!

(our tent isn’t THAT big)

Adam

January 26th, 2012
11:44 am

WOODSTOCK: Here’s the Democrat strategy to make our economy thrive…

Give absolutely no incentives to make money and be successful.

You mean like giving them tax breaks that make it possible for them to earn more? Removing tax breaks that encourage jobs overseas? “No incentives” like that?

Drive By

January 26th, 2012
11:44 am

Jane @ 11:34

From Wiki:
The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship “at birth” or “by birth,” including any child born “in” the United States (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.[1]

Mom’s a U.S. citizen, so according to current rules, President Obama is a natural-born citizen, regardless of his birthplace.

I’m finding it hard to believe this issue is still alive.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:45 am

USinUK… You’re right….and an extended 15 minutes. But she can get money on the lecture circuit…

Joe Mama, that must be it.

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:45 am

Keep Up the Good Fight,

I don’t have a court decision, but I would like to see one. As a lawyer wrote in the NYT, “this is not a frivolous issue.”

I think it would be a good idea to clarify this issue for the American people. We like to be considered a nation of laws.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:46 am

I’m finding it hard to believe this issue is still alive.

If it weren’t for the Internet, we wouldn’t realize how many people around us are really bug-fcking crazy.

Adam

January 26th, 2012
11:46 am

Obama is just another lying thug…. YES I SAID IT… so so HOLDER… nothing but lying THUGS… tell me where I am wrong…

You are wrong in all of that.

Hey, you asked.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
11:46 am

USinUK – “Newt Gingrich is a Democrat? Did I miss a memo?”

ewwww … no thanks … do not want!!”

Hey, talk to WOODSTOCK. He’s the one who just paraphrased Newts strategy against Mitt.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:46 am

Our President scolded jindal and brewer for disrespecting the President and deal is next.

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
11:46 am

“Give absolutely no incentives to make money and be successful.”

the stupid is strong with this one.

Jay

January 26th, 2012
11:47 am

The hearing has ended with closing arguments by Taitz. No rulings issued, no notice of when a decision or other action might be taken.

Adam

January 26th, 2012
11:47 am

Jane: We like to be considered a nation of laws.

Not all of us. Fundamentalist Libertarians want to eliminate practically all law.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
11:48 am

Drive By – “Mom’s a U.S. citizen, so according to current rules, President Obama is a natural-born citizen, regardless of his birthplace.

I’m finding it hard to believe this issue is still alive.”

Maybe the birthers aren’t aware that Hawaii is also a state even though it’s not attached to the Mainland. But then again, no one accused Sara Palin of being Canadian simply because Alaska borders the provinces.

mm

January 26th, 2012
11:48 am

Jane,

You have removed all doubt. Fool.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
11:48 am

“What if someone came up with incontrovertible proof that a sitting President wasn’t born in the US?”

Mental masturbation.

onpatroll

January 26th, 2012
11:48 am

So a natural born citizen needs both parents to be US citizens and yet I screamed anchor babies when I didn’t have too since neither parent is a US citizen. I am so confused now. I hope Newt sorts this out.

Bill Orvis White

January 26th, 2012
11:48 am

I thought I was on Dr. Taitz’s witness list. I would have jumped into the 150 and attended this important Hearing. I’m thrilled that there are a few patriots left who are willing to go against the grain to stand up for what’s right. I pray that the outcome of today’s session will make it compulsory for this installed-”president” to appear before these patriots and attempt to answer their solid, common-sense, tough questions.
Amen,
Bill

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:49 am

Give absolutely no incentives to make money and be successful.

Then why don’t you just “go Galt”?

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
11:50 am

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:42 am

Bottom Line Jane….If you born in America, you’re a citizen as it always has been for 100s of years.

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
11:50 am

Jay,

Rather than providing us with slanted commentary, concerning Ms. Taitz’ unprofessional behavior, could you please provide some objective feedback, with regard to the content of the testimony?

I myself downloaded the birth certificate off the white house website and extracted data from the .pdf, using a simple Python script. Furthermore, I also confirm that the .pdf was generated on a Mac and contains six layers which, as far as I am aware, would be impossible unless the image had been ‘Photoshopped’. In fact, all one has to do is zoom in on the image to see the distorted pixels underneath the central portion of the image.

I’m not saying that Obama is not a citizen, I’m saying that the .pdf has been doctored with almost absolute certainty. And that, in my mind, warrants investigation. Do you not agree?

Why are you so vehemently against setting the record straight, when credible doubt exists?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
11:50 am

Really? — “OBOTS in denial are the same ones wanting to know every sex partner of ever Republican candidate”

We don’t *want* to know. It’s just that all their illicit sex partners seem to come forward and TELL us about it.

“yet choose to ignore Larry Sinclair…”

Hey, when you’ve got something more than a whispering campaign from a discredited and proven liar, bring it on. But Sinclair is not credible just because you *want* to believe what he says.

“Obama is just another lying thug…. YES I SAID IT… so so HOLDER… nothing but lying THUGS… tell me where I am wrong…. OBOTS….”

I love it when they get so worked up that they can’t even type complete and proper sentences. :D

“What is that a brown ring around your lips??? Been kissing much behind lately?”

Your meltdown is complete. Thanks for playing! (laughing, pointing) :D

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:52 am

I think Bill was in the room…. just trying to throw Jay off his trail. :D

Adam

January 26th, 2012
11:52 am

Why are you so vehemently against setting the record straight, when credible doubt exists?

THERE IS NO CREDIBLE DOUBT

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:53 am

Thanks for the much needed laugh Bill.

Keep em coming.

Thanks Bill.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:53 am

Tick…tick…tick….

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
11:53 am

B. O’Rights — “Why are you so vehemently against setting the record straight, when credible doubt exists?”

When y’all start showing some concern about issues like senior government officials outing CIA agents during a shooting war, then we can talk about some concern being shown to your issues.

John

January 26th, 2012
11:53 am

So, what was the outcome of the hearing? What was Judge Malihi’s decision?

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:54 am

Really?

Get lost.

Really.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
11:54 am

“Why are you so vehemently against setting the record straight, when credible doubt exists?”

Because it doesn’t exist except in the minds of those who lean towards conspiracy theories and tin foil hats.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
11:54 am

“I think it would be a good idea to clarify this issue for the American people. We like to be considered a nation of laws.”

So that means we are gonna say that all the people who were ever born in America on US Soil, but parents are NOT or Were NOT citizens, those people are Illegals?

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
11:54 am

Bill O Rights – “Why are you so vehemently against setting the record straight, when credible doubt exists?”

Absolutely right! Quick Bill, you need to contact the GOP, RNC, FBI, CIA, Secret Service and INTERPOL and let them know that you’ve cracked the code! My God, it’s all so painfully simple, how could anyone have missed it? Wow, you’re just like Jeff Goldblum in Independence Day!

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:55 am

I’m not saying that Obama is not a citizen, I’m saying that the .pdf has been doctored with almost absolute certainty. And that, in my mind, warrants investigation. Do you not agree?

Nope.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
11:55 am

@ really: you are way out of line.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
11:55 am

John,

The stuff in blue is Jay’s report:

“The hearing has ended with closing arguments by Taitz. No rulings issued, no notice of when a decision or other action might be taken.”

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:55 am

barking frog

January 26th, 2012
11:55 am

jcb, mental masturbation, is that stroking your own ego?

Jane

January 26th, 2012
11:56 am

DriveBy @11:44

That was a good article, published in November 2011, so it’s a fairly new official source.

I don’t think that Obama has any foreign influences like the original framers were concerned about, which is why I also think it’s a fairly technical point for us today.The article states that “there is no Supreme Court case which has ruled specifically on the presidential eligibility requirements (although several cases have addressed the term natural born citizen), and this clause has been the subject of several legal and historical treatises over the years, as well as more recent litigation.”

All I am saying is that a ruling would be beneficial. I don’t know why that makes me a “fool” as per commenter mm, when smarter people than I who have written scholarly articles have said it’s not a frivolous issue.

The Elected One

January 26th, 2012
11:57 am

In the United States government, executive privilege is the power claimed by the President of the United States and other members of the executive branch to resist certain subpoenas and other interventions by the legislative and judicial branches of government. The concept of executive privilege is not mentioned explicitly in the United States Constitution, but the Supreme Court of the United States ruled it to be an element of the separation of powers doctrine, and/or derived from the supremacy of executive branch in its own area of Constitutional activity.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
11:57 am

Why are you so vehemently against setting the record straight, when credible doubt exists?

Credible? because you say it is? Sorry WND fanatic….but I am sure you can join Orly’s list of crazies with your “evidence” and can demonstrate your ability.

ralph

January 26th, 2012
11:58 am

Its crap like this that makes me want to deny being a native of Georgia. Now, if someone asks, I will say I am from Hawaii !! How about that hack Representative Hatfield in the court. Boy his constituents must be proud.

Bill Orvis White

January 26th, 2012
11:58 am

@Keep Up the Good Fight!
I only wish I was in the room, but I guess Liberal Jay will suffice. I’m smart enough to read through his far left liberal drivel. I’m praying for more hearings. For those who do not understand the rule of law like me and Mr. Boortz, let us school you: the honorable state Senator Hatfield is more than correct in asserting that both parents need to be law-abiding, decent citizens who adhere to the strict constructs of The Constitution of the United States of American. Hussein Obama’s father DOES NOT fulfill these solid, common-sense requirements. Thusly, Senator Hatfield and Dr. Taitz HAVE A CASE! That longform digital “record” was doctored up by a White House intern after much pressing from the honorable Donald Trump. Where is the REAL longform? Well, the real longform is a Kenyan birth certificate which I have a copy of and Dr. Taitz has the original
Amen,
Bill

Libertarian

January 26th, 2012
11:58 am

I don’t buy into the birther thing but can anyone on here answer the question about the social security number being issued in Connecticut?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
11:59 am

barking frog,

“is that stroking your own ego?”

Among other things ;)

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:00 pm

“How about that hack Representative Hatfield in the court. Boy his constituents must be proud”

As sad as it seems, THEY probably are.

Merry J

January 26th, 2012
12:01 pm

Georgia has birther gloop all over it.

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
12:02 pm

I don’t buy into the birther thing but can anyone on here answer the question about the social security number being issued in Connecticut?

Snopes is only a few clicks away:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
12:02 pm

really, the clock is ticking on you being on this blog, best to go out with a bang huh?

mm

January 26th, 2012
12:02 pm

I believe REALLY just bought himself a permanent ban.

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
12:03 pm

Butch,

My point is that the evidence is so obvious and yet there is tremendous pushback from the Left. The news media has already determined that the case is closed, but they did so based upon a desperation to get the issue behind them, not to determine the truth.

And, with that in mind, I guess some things never change.

Drive By

January 26th, 2012
12:04 pm

@Jane 11:56

I agree. A ruling by the Supremes would be beneficial, but until one of those cases floats its way to the top of the pile, that’s the rule of law for right now.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:04 pm

really.

You will get banned.

Good riddance.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
12:05 pm

“Obama is a gay as they come… just check out his bike…”

Bikes turn people gay?

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:05 pm

“Obama is a gay as they come…”

You know this from personal experience Im guessing.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
12:05 pm

Why I do believe if Bill keeps it up, he can knock Newt out of the running…… Bill is polling at 20% already! :D

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
12:06 pm

“Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans.”

Were they German Americans? Irish Americans? Armenian Americans? Ukrainian Americans? South African Americans? How did you know they were even Americans?

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
12:07 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!…

Please help me understand what evidence you would consider credible.

Normal

January 26th, 2012
12:07 pm

President Obama was BORN in America, so he’s a U. S. Citizen…just like the childeren of illegals who were born here. THAT is what makes America great!

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:08 pm

“How did you know they were even Americans?”

I would like to see oily’s papers please.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
12:08 pm

Hey, hey bungalow bill what did you kill, bungalow bill?

The honorable consititution is not your strong suit, I think you need some more solitary time in your shed…

Bill Orvis White

January 26th, 2012
12:08 pm

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:08 pm

Normal

January 26th, 2012
12:07 pm

Anchor Baby Lover :-)

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

Kamchak
January 26th, 2012
11:43 am

Minus the smartass tone, thanks.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

Bikes turn people gay?

Absolutely. That’s why we are seeing this influx of man/bike marriages.

southern royalty

January 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

I have scenes from “Inherit the Wind” running through my head at this moment. I am shaking my head at this foolishness all on our hard earned tax dollar! And the comment of calling our President “uppity” is the most racist thing I’ve heard in years! A sad day for the state of Georgia and an even sadder day for America.

Normal

January 26th, 2012
12:09 pm

Joe Cool,

Yep! :D

JohnnyReb

January 26th, 2012
12:10 pm

As ridiculous as the scene Jay explained may be, it would serve Obama rightfully if his name was removed from the ballot. Whether he or you agree, our laws provide for a day in court. Obama may not need to be there, but his representation does. Their defense of no grounds should not be allowed to stand. Defense is made in court, not by letter. Ignoring the law with no consequence degrades the system. Obama took an oath to uphold our laws.

MiltonMan

January 26th, 2012
12:10 pm

Wow the AJC “sends” Jay to cover this??? I guess Jay gets to sit by the clowns from TMZ, National Enquirer and other select “newspapers”.

Big waste of time. Keep Obama on the ballot; he will not carry this state.

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
12:10 pm

Oh man – did Larry Sinclair go hire Gloria Allred?

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:11 pm

How much money is this joke costing Georgia’s taxpayers?

ProgressivePeach

January 26th, 2012
12:11 pm

Ah Georgia, now America sees you as Mississippi’s retarded cousin. Well done!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
12:11 pm

Bill O…. it’s your job to overcome the certification of the sovereign state of Hawaii which is entitled to full respect under the US Constitution. So far, in every single court hearing, the evidence presented as failed. If you have something, go to court.

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
12:12 pm

“just like the childeren of illegals who were born here. THAT is what makes America great!”

Oh wow……

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
12:12 pm

BOR – “My point is that the evidence is so obvious and yet there is tremendous pushback from the Left. The news media has already determined that the case is closed, but they did so based upon a desperation to get the issue behind them, not to determine the truth.”

Bill, your theory and that of the birthers hinges on the fact that the GOP, RNC, CIA, FBI, Secret Service etc… were completely incompetant and missed a basic requirement for Obama to even run for POTUS. So unless you are telling me that the aforementioned agencies are completely inept, your case has no merit. Hence the reason that no one has been able to offer credible proof of anything. If a Non- American were sitting in the Oval Office, and there was conclusive proof, there would be little the media could do to stop the truth.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:13 pm

MiltonMan

January 26th, 2012
12:10 pm

Wow the AJC “sends” Jay to cover this??? I guess Jay gets to sit by the clowns from TMZ, National Enquirer and other select “newspapers”.

Why you mad? TMZaJc ENVY?

Derek

January 26th, 2012
12:15 pm

No ruling in ‘birther’ challenge | ajc.com http://bit.ly/xQDbIW

RobinGrace

January 26th, 2012
12:16 pm

So..who is the racist? “Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans. The conversations are thick with various birthed theories being bandied about.” And it was important to mention they’re ‘white’? because. Also.”The redoubtable Orly Taitz swept in a few minutes ago, making a star’s entrance amid whispers of “look, there she is!” ? means what?

It seems to me , whatever the case is here, commentors on this thread are racist and anti white American. So how does that make you feel to be sucked into being used and becoming racist to boot? Sounds like you like it to me.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
12:16 pm

MiltonMan – “Wow the AJC “sends” Jay to cover this??? ”

It was my understanding that they were going to send Kyle, but he was too busy trying to figure out how to spin Gingrich and Romney for his next editorial.

al

January 26th, 2012
12:16 pm

Hmmm let me see we have a candidate for president that was adopted, we do not know who his father was, spent most of his young years in Europe, was a member of the Sierra Club, has a trophy wife(that what they do when they get to this level) and his name is Leroy. I think those dogs are barking up the wrong tree. Newt aka “Leroy” your new black president for 2012.

godless heathen

January 26th, 2012
12:17 pm

Sooth: “Only if you believe that a single airplane can turn a 110-story, 80,000-ton office tower into powder.”

Just to demonstrate that not all conspiracy nuts are right-wingers.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

He’s a citizen and a legitimate President…but after seeing him throw a baseball, I’m thinking his gender may need to be legally challenged..

Heisenberg

January 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

Jay, please tell us a “reporter” from The Daily Show was there. If not how about submittiing your report to them as Comedy Central is a more appropriate forum for this hearing.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
12:18 pm

Hmmmm, perhaps the wingnuts are beginning to understand code words? Nahhhhhh….. they don’t exist.

Proud to Vote

January 26th, 2012
12:19 pm

You have to be a ignorant attorney to put your name on such documents and to file them with the court, to even to allow for them to come forth with such a crazy challenge. Crazy Crazy Crazy. Georgians need to stand up for what is really wrong with our state.

willie lynch

January 26th, 2012
12:20 pm

George Bush and Dick Cheney refused to speak to the 9/11 Commission unless they were allowed to do so together. And you Georgians are upset that the President didn’t take time to entertain this nonsense?

The inability to see a difference in the importance of things is why Georgia consistently ranks in the bottom 5 in the nations education rankings. You people have never been taught to think critically.

Vote Newt!!!

Steve

January 26th, 2012
12:20 pm

Hey Jay –

Great blog for a hack…maybe you could address real topics such as:

1) 14,000,000,000,000 in debt (5,000,000,000,000 of these from Obama)
2) Solyndra (and other failed Green Projects)
3) Keystone Pipeline
4) 8.5% Unemployment
5) High Gas Prices
6) 60% of Americans are against Obamacare

For the record, I truly believe as most conservatives do that…Barack Obama was born in one of the 57 US States and this is a non-issue.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:20 pm

Play him in basketball ty.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:21 pm

steve,

Obama envy much?

Bobby

January 26th, 2012
12:21 pm

This judge is what makes us Southerners look so studpid and rednecked.

Boris Badnoff

January 26th, 2012
12:21 pm

Must be a strange feeling for Bookman to be in court and not represented by an ambulance chaser. Jay when the judge says “What do you plead” just break character and remain silent. Remember, if there’s no video tape or DNA there’s no case. The Messiah’s Birth Certificate would carry more validity if it weren’t issued by the American Kennel Club and printed by Kinkos.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
12:22 pm

…maybe you could address real topics such as:

Maybe you can start your own blog at blogspot.com.

Bobby

January 26th, 2012
12:22 pm

And yes I know I misspelled “stupid”.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
12:23 pm

getalife,
wouldn’t prove much…there are WNBA players that could beat me at basketball.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
12:24 pm

) 14,000,000,000,000 in debt (5,000,000,000,000 of these from Obama)
The lie that keeps on giving

2) Solyndra (and other failed Green Projects)
Started off in the bush admin

3) Keystone Pipeline
Reality check – only a couple of hundred jobs, which do you prefer oil or water?

4) 8.5% Unemployment
Yeah, that’s all his fault

5) High Gas Prices
Blame the futures market

6) 60% of Americans are against Obamacare
Then why were 72% for a public option?????

Try again…

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:25 pm

ty,

My point is he is good at basketball but horrible at baseball and bowling.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
12:25 pm

BB – “The Messiah’s Birth Certificate would carry more validity if it weren’t issued by the American Kennel Club and printed by Kinkos.”

Boris, have you contacted the authorities with your evidence? Perhaps you can put in a call to the local FBI office here in Atlanta to present your cold, hard facts. I’m sure they will be thrilled to listen to how they completely missed your evidence. Hey, they might even make you a Junior G-Man.

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
12:25 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!…

I agree. Ms. Taitz’ recent request in Hawaii was declined due to the state’s responsibility to protect individual privacy.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:27 pm

1) 14,000,000,000,000 in debt (5,000,000,000,000 of these from Obama)
How much of this is NEW Obama Debt, that DID NOT Roll over From Bushs Policies?
2) Solyndra (and other failed Green Projects)
They All arent gonna work…we all know that.
3) Keystone Pipeline
So? 6,500 temp jobs and all the oil being shipped to china.
4) 8.5% Unemployment
Down from nearly almost 10%
5) High Gas Prices
The Prez controls Oil prices? I didnt know that.
6) 60% of Americans are against Obamacare
Find me a recent poll..thanks.

Steve

January 26th, 2012
12:28 pm

Hey Mick,

Well thought out responses…under 25 characters and nothing to support…reminds me of my 8 year old son who is in 2nd grade.

Guy Incognito

January 26th, 2012
12:28 pm

geta’

“Play him in basketball ty”

Sorry, as a High School BB coach for over 20 years, I can tell you that he would be cut from any decent High school program. He’s very “basic” in his ability

godless heathen

January 26th, 2012
12:29 pm

“My point is he is good at basketball but horrible at baseball and bowling.”

And swimming.

jconservative

January 26th, 2012
12:29 pm

“… both parents need to be law-abiding, decent citizens who adhere to the strict constructs of The Constitution of the United States of American. Hussein Obama’s father DOES NOT fulfill these solid, common-sense requirements.”

The US Supreme Court has ruled 3 separate times that this is incorrect. When they say NO a 4th time will that make you happy?

Gator Joe

January 26th, 2012
12:30 pm

Jay:
The people who are pushing this effort are from that demographic which surfaced after President Obama’s election. The demographic of racist, delusional, ignorant and angry whites. Too bad they haven’t moved past the 15th Century. These pathetic people would be worthy of pity if they weren’t so dispicable. This effort will fail as other efforts to deligetimize his Presidency have failed. More evidence that racism, bigotry and ignorance is alive and well in America, especially here in Georgia.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:30 pm

Guy,

Have you watched him play in a game?

Vinny

January 26th, 2012
12:30 pm

Jay – Everyone knows that this lawsuit is a farce. The fact that you attended the hearing is quite fitting though since it proves that you are nothing but a two-bit tabloid “journalist” that reports on things only matter to low-life trash.

kenneth smith

January 26th, 2012
12:31 pm

These same OLD WHITE PEOPLE who would do anything to keep anyone other than whites from progressing in this country. The SOUTH is well and still alive in Georgia. These old a$$e$ should be put in a White only home for stupied people.

Steve

January 26th, 2012
12:31 pm

Obama’s National Debt Impact

Upon Inauguration: $10,626,877,048,913
As of Jan 24, 2012: $15,236,236,452,380
In 3.0 yrs Increased: $4,609,359,403,467
George Bush (8yrs): $4,899,100,310,609

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
12:31 pm

“now America sees you as Mississippi’s retarded cousin. Well done!”

Well, they are still fatter.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:31 pm

godless,

Knowing he was born in Hawaii, he probably swims well.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

“two-bit tabloid “journalist” that reports on things only matter to low-life trash.”

Thanks Vinny for acknowledging that all birthers and those who ? the Prez Citizenship are “low-life trash” as we all knew.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

steve

Is that the best you can do? Your second grader could come up with a more intelligent zinger…

RB from Gwinnett

January 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

Proud – “You have to be a ignorant attorney to put your name on such documents and to file them with the court, to even to allow for them to come forth with such a crazy challenge. Crazy Crazy Crazy. Georgians need to stand up for what is really wrong with our state.”

My guess is you think this case is an example of what’s wrong in our state, but would think it’s great for a person to sue a ladder manufacturer because they fell off one?

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

“And swimming.”

that’s not fair…why swim when you can walk on water?

Steve

January 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

Here ya go…

New Poll: Only 52 Percent of Democrats Support ObamaCare; Will the Networks Report?

By Ken Shepherd | October 28, 2011 | 10:42

A new Kaiser Family Foundation poll finds the support for ObamaCare has dipped yet again, with just 34 percent of Americans favoring the president’s signature health care overhaul.

What’s more, just 52 percent of Democrats support the law, a troubling sign for President Obama a year before Election Day. Thirty-one percent of Democrats view the law either “somewhat” or “very” unfavorably.

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

I’m sure Scout and Co. appreciate you taking the time to follow this case, Jay.

williebkind

January 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

Steve made some great points and the liberals attacked him immediately–”hey dude get your own blog!” LOL, liberals sure are funny! The birthers behave exactly like the liberals. The liberals initiated this type of behavior years ago–like yelling at the veterans coming home from Vietnam calling them babykillers. Well liberals YOUR chickens have come home to roost. After the election the next big fight will be to remove any form of liberal indoctrination in schools–especially colleges.

The food stamp President is a one termer. If it is proven he is not a citizen look at all the hangings that will occur–you liberals must be scared.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:34 pm

Steve

January 26th, 2012
12:31 pm

Still waiting on the breakdown of Obamas debt….thanks

Normal

January 26th, 2012
12:34 pm

why swim when you can walk on water?

Yeah, but he still gets his feet wet…

Normal

January 26th, 2012
12:34 pm

Joe Cool,
Trying a little side step?

Steve

January 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

Wave the white flag Mick…just wave the white flag….

(no racial references in the flag being white…just an fyi)

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

Steve

January 26th, 2012
12:33 pm

Link?? thanks

Mick

January 26th, 2012
12:35 pm

steve

Gee, wonder when we finally added in the cost of two wars, medicare part d and two irresposible tax cuts, not to mention all that interest compounding on the previous debt? Oh yeah, let’s not forget tarp. Keep fishing…

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:36 pm

You cons are getting more unhinged by the day.

Our President will win easily so pack your bags and leave my country. Take oily with ya.

Thanks and good riddance.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
12:36 pm

jcb, mental masturbation, is that stroking your own ego?

Alvy Singer: Hey, don’t knock masturbation. It’s sex with someone I love.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
12:37 pm

Everyone knows that this lawsuit is a farce.

Putting aside the fact that you haven’t been granted the authority to speak for “everyone”, some of the comments expressed here clearly proves that your assertion is false.

The fact that you attended the hearing is quite fitting though since it proves that you are nothing but a two-bit tabloid “journalist” that reports on things only matter to low-life trash.

And if Jay hadn’t attended this hearing, I wonder how many would be clamoring that Jay ignored something they thought was important.

Steve

January 26th, 2012
12:37 pm

JOE Cool…there is a thing on the right side of the ‘puter called a scroll bar…go up just a bit and voila!!!

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
12:37 pm

KUTGF — “Bill O…. it’s your job to overcome the certification of the sovereign state of Hawaii which is entitled to full respect under the US Constitution. So far, in every single court hearing, the evidence presented as failed. If you have something, go to court.”

Exactly this. During the 2008 campaign, the head of the Hawaii State Department of Vital Records and Governor Linda Lingle (a Republican, I might add) actually *reviewed* the physical “long form” that the birthers so agitate about and said two things about it:

1) It’s valid.

2) There’s nothing on it that would preclude Barack Obama from serving as President, if he were to be elected.

They said one more thing: they reiterated that the State of Hawaii does not, as a matter of LAW, release the “long form” to anyone.

Subsequent to that, the State of Hawaii passed legislation empowering the head of the State Department of Vital Records to ignore, at his or her convenience, any repeated or abusive requests for copies of records in her or her care. Previously, the head was obliged to respond (including with letters detailing why the sought-after records could not be legally released), but now he/she is allowed just to blow birthers off.

Governor Lingle has been succeeded by former Congressman Neil Abercrombie, but Lingle has announced as a candidate to succeed retiring U. S. Senator Daniel Akaka, the junior Senator from Hawaii.

Maybe if Lingle gets elected and goes to Washington, you birthers can go up there and she can tell you to your face that Obama’s birth certificate is valid and that she’s seen it.

If any birthers want to impeach the birth certificate or have it ruled invalid, they’re going to have to come up with conclusive evidence that accomplishes two things:

1) refutes the head of the Hawaii State Department of Vital Records

2) refutes former Governor — and possible future Senator — Linda Lingle.

Absent that kind of evidence, there’s nothing birthers have to say that interests me in the least.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2012
12:38 pm

Well, what I want to know is, if this judge rules Obama can’t be on the GA ballot, can we get him kicked out of the White House right now? I mean, seeing as how he’s illegal and all. We badly need a pearly white good old boy real President in there.

This Taitz woman sounds like a real Patriot. Too bad our Activist federal judges keep fining her and threatening to jail her.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
12:38 pm

williebkind

January 26th, 2012
12:39 pm

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:36 pm
Your country wont survive!

saywhat?

January 26th, 2012
12:39 pm

Just when you think the intellectual level and political discourse of Georgia Republicans can’t get any shallower, somebody has to go and drain a little more water out of the pool.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:39 pm

“Too bad our Activist federal judges keep fining her and threatening to jail her.”

She deserves it.

Karma.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
12:39 pm

steve

The truth of the matter is that you can only really tag obama with the stimulus and the continuation of wars he didn’t start. Wars that the previous guy kept off the books and president obama put on the books, get it?

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:40 pm

Upon Inauguration: $10,626,877,048,913
As of Jan 24, 2012: $15,236,236,452,380
In 3.0 yrs Increased: $4,609,359,403,467
George Bush (8yrs): $4,899,100,310,609

Steve, that is NOT a breakdown of what the debt went towards. Lets try this again, Can you give me a breakdown of WHAT the monies/debt came from. Thanks

BuckeyeinGa

January 26th, 2012
12:40 pm

REPOST:
The Obama records which have not been released include; 6th grade science test; 5th grade elementry social studies quiz. He should have no problem releasing these documents. We should demand he releases these documents

williebkind

January 26th, 2012
12:41 pm

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
12:38 pm
Now you guys make fun of birthers then put this out! What a joke!

Mick

January 26th, 2012
12:41 pm

steve

Right about now you should be thinking I’m sol or sos…

williebkind

January 26th, 2012
12:42 pm

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
12:40 pm
that is a good a consensus as liberals have made for green energy!

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:42 pm

steve,

Check the poll numbers on who is to blame for the great w recession.

Americans blame w of course.

Black and proud

January 26th, 2012
12:42 pm

This is a bunch of garbage and black people in the State of Georgia really need to stand up and say something. He is the President of the United States and just because he is up for re-election prejudice white folks are trying to block it. Well they didn’t challenge the birth of any of our former Presidents. When will black people wake and realize white folks will always and only see us as black no matter what position we hold and as long as they are here in this world they want us to stay behind them. Our young black people need to realize you will always be black and you need to really learn our history because if we are not careful they will have us back into slavery and take away our voting rights altogether if we let them.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
12:43 pm

Obama took a spelling test in the 3d grade! Why won’t they release the results?

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
12:43 pm

Is sfd in here throwing around the “n” word again today or did Forrest Gump beat him up at the Black Panther party? lol

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
12:43 pm

Kamchak,

“And if Jay hadn’t attended this hearing, I wonder how many would be clamoring that Jay ignored something they thought was important.”

This is framed in my office: http://mychinaconnection.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Far-Side-Damned-if-You-Do-Dont_2.jpg

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
12:43 pm

Butch,

Your point is a good one, but it is my understanding that once individuals are elected to the Senate, they are granted secret clearance and a background check would not be performed. So, unless I am mistaken, any background check would have taken place prior to his having taken office as Senator.

The requirements for the Senate differ from those for the Presidency.

For expediency’ sake, I’ll quote Google:

“Article I, Section 3 of the Constitution sets three qualifications for senators: 1) each senator must be at least 30 years old, 2) must have been a citizen of the United States for at least the past nine years, and 3) must be (at the time of the election) an inhabitant of the state he or she seeks to represent.”

williebkind

January 26th, 2012
12:44 pm

Americans blame Obama for not fixing it with the trillions given to him to do it. Just take survey if you think I am wrong.

Rabbit

January 26th, 2012
12:44 pm

Gas is back on the rise. The average life expectancy of US persons is down for the first time in almost a century. The US income gap that was on par with the rest of the free world 30 years ago has broken out to about 40 times wider. Unemployment is persistent. Campaign finance has been rendered irrelevant because corporate interests can manipulate public opinion Madison Ave style.
In Georgia, some of our leaders (Hatfield, for example) seem to only be concerned with matters relating to “them” Bob Dylan once wrote a song about leaders like this. It was called, “Only a Pawn in their Game.”

BuckeyeinGa

January 26th, 2012
12:45 pm

Obama’s National Debt Impact

Upon Inauguration: $10,626,877,048,913
As of Jan 24, 2012: $15,236,236,452,380
In 3.0 yrs Increased: $4,609,359,403,467
George Bush (8yrs): $4,899,100,310,609

Was the dept 4,899,100,310,609 or
$10,626,877,048,913
both of these numbers are before President Obama took office officially.
What was the debt the when Bush was inaugurated?

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:45 pm

Black and proud,

It is a failed attempt to deligitimize his Presidency.

cons are horrible sore losers and horrible Americans.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
12:45 pm

“Our young black people need to realize you will always be black…”

michael jackson?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
12:46 pm

Bill O….. are you sure that is the real US Constitution you have quoted from? Did you quote it from the original after it was certified by a state or by the federal government? My sources tell me its all a fake and there is something on the back. So how do you know its real?

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
12:47 pm

black and proud, quit your crying and make something out of yourself and quit blaming everybody else for your failures. The only person that can hold you down in America is you. Statements like yours make all of us look bad. Man up.

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
12:47 pm

@Proud to Vote

January 26th, 2012
12:19 pm
Georgians need to stand up for what is really wrong with our state.
********************************************************************
Georgians are still trying to hold on to the old PLANTATION era where blacks
knew their place and stayed in their place.

Racism and hatred stains the streets and roads of Georgia like the red clay.

Just like the COLORED only signs have gone WITH THE WIND………so has the “stay in your place negros.”

We will not GO BACK THERE.

No, we will NEVER GO BACK THERE.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:47 pm

“Where is the beef?” Thomas Jefferson.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
12:48 pm

“realize white folks will always and only see us as black”

I see them as shades of brown. But then I also see white people as shades of pink. Unless they are Republican Speakers of the House…then I see them in shades of blaze orange.

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
12:48 pm

Orly makes me sweat under my wig.
– Thomas Jefferson

Normal

January 26th, 2012
12:51 pm

Completely off topic, but until Jay gets back with more laughs, there’s this…

Murdoch: Romney’s Tax Returns May ‘Kill’ Him

Rupert Murdoch, the conservative media mogul who owns Fox News, tweeted Wednesday that the release of Mitt Romney’s tax returns could “kill” his candidacy.

“Romney’s tax returns might kill his chances. See Republican establishment panic now!” Murdoch tweeted.

The former Massachusetts governor remains in a thorny political situation. He made more than $20 million income last year and paid only about 14 percent in income taxes.

But Romney’s own tax plan has called for all Americans to pay a minimum 25 percent tax.

Newt Gingrich’s plan, however, calls for a flat 15 percent income tax for all Americans. Gingrich has mocked Romney’s plan, saying that Romney wants Americans to pay more in tax than he himself does.

Romney’s campaign is reeling.

Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal reported this week that Romney’s posture suggests that his wealth embarrasses him.

The Journal reported that Romney is thinking of scrapping the so-called “carried interest” provision that has allowed Romney and other venture capitalists to invest and reap profits at the low capital gains tax rate of 15 percent.

If “carried interest” were scrapped, rates on venture investments could be taxed at normal income rates.

Gingrich, for his part, says Romney’s plan is folly. Gingrich has argued he would cut capital gains taxes across the board to zero to stimulate investment and create new jobs.

Romney appears in a box. Shamed by his low tax rates, he is calling for higher taxes for everyone else. As Politico put it, “Mr. Romney remains in a defensive crouch, as if he’s embarrassed by his wealth.”

© Newsmax. All rights reserved.

Editor’s Notes:

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
12:51 pm

“michael jackson?”

It was white by the end…

MiltonMan

January 26th, 2012
12:51 pm

Yes, yes this makes Georgia look terrible. Please tell all the people who want to move not to move here since this state is so terrible.

People just like Jay – A reject from PA.

godless heathen

January 26th, 2012
12:52 pm

“Knowing he was born in Hawaii, he probably swims well.”

You ever seen him swim?

Adam

January 26th, 2012
12:52 pm

Steve: Great blog for a hack…maybe you could address real topics such as:

Oh, there you are….

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
12:53 pm

If the late Steve Jobs’ Apple corporation, much beloved by liberals, represents the pinnacle of capitalism, can the collapse of the middle class in the US be stopped?

Hint: answer not encouraging.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:54 pm

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
12:54 pm

MiltonMan,

“Please tell all the people who want to move not to move here since this state is so terrible.”

I’ve been doing that since Sonny prayed for rain.

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
12:55 pm

NORM!

Carl Levin is calling for a couple more years of Romney tax returns.

Did Romney pay any tax in 2008?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
12:56 pm

I have finally found a photo to add to Redneck Convert’s corn dog collection: The barbeque

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
12:57 pm

Welcome to the Occupation,

“Apple corporation, much beloved by liberals”

Now, to be fair, liberals love Apple’s gadgets, not necessarily the actual company.

godless heathen

January 26th, 2012
12:57 pm

get:

Looks like he swims like he throws a baseball.

Mr Charlie

January 26th, 2012
12:57 pm

Yes, he 50% of the people who don’t pay any taxes really have a good point a out the other 50% who don’t pay their fair share.

Quotemeister

January 26th, 2012
12:58 pm

Newt’s Erratic: As speaker, Newt “was erratic, undisciplined.” Gingrich would propose one agenda, the Republican leadership would prepare for it, and several days later, he would have a completely different agenda. “We spent a lot of time working with Newt, if you will, to keep him focused and keep him online with the agenda we had promised the American people.”

Newt’s Not Conservative: Gingrich is “not really a conservative,” but someone who will “tell you what you want to hear.” Newt stepped down as Speaker because “conservative Republicans, wouldn’t vote for him again.”

Newt’s Not Principled: “I’m not disparaging him, I’m just telling you who he is. He doesn’t stand on principle.”

http://thinkprogress.org/

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
12:59 pm

I see that our host has sanitized this thread.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:59 pm

willard is a tax cheat.

The newt is moving left for the general.

The newt is your candidate cons.

Get ready for a reckoning by the American people cons.

mm

January 26th, 2012
12:59 pm

“that reports on things only matter to low-life trash.”

Well, the wingnuts certainly came out of the woodwork on this one.

Quotemeister

January 26th, 2012
1:00 pm

^ Tom Delay!

Guy Incognito

January 26th, 2012
1:00 pm

getalife

I’ve seen footage of him playing, on at least 4 different occasions. He has a nice set shot, with no defense on him, but his ‘handle” is questionable, and he can’t go right (proving that this is the case not JUST ideologically:)

I saw him beat Clark Kellogg in H.O.R.S.E., but that does not equate to game ability. At least he’s not a walking stereotype in that regard

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
1:00 pm

Kam

I reported the comment about 20 minutes ago.

Anybody else do it?

The Truth

January 26th, 2012
1:02 pm

Boy, the Republican’t must really want Obama to be re-elected. They choose losers like Gingrich and Romney and shun electable candidates like Ron Paul, Jon Huntsman and Gary Johnson. Then, they pull a stunt like this so everyone can really know how stupid and trailer-trash they really are… Just keep listening to kooks like Hannity and Rush and your party will end up in the sewer just like John Ensign, David Vitter, Larry Craig and Mark Foley.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
1:02 pm

jewcowboy: “Now, to be fair, liberals love Apple’s gadgets, not necessarily the actual company.”

Yes, and therein lies their naivete. :)

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:03 pm

Granny Godzilla

Then perhaps it wasn’t Jay that sprayed the Lysol. I suspect that a card will be issued anon.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:03 pm

Peadawg

“It was white by the end…”

PANTONE 11-0104 TPX

You should look up the name ;)

mm

January 26th, 2012
1:03 pm

Which genius predicted yesterday that the stock market would be down 200 points?

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
1:03 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

LOL! Maybe something I should consider…

But, in my mind, the conspiracy isn’t to forge the Constitution, just to ignore it.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2012
1:04 pm

I have finally found a photo to add to Redneck Convert’s corn dog collection: The barbeque

Well, up yours w/ a 2 x 4, Keep. This woman ain’t even worthy of being in the same collection w/ Michelle Bachmann. First, notice her eyes ain’t rolled back in her head. Second, look how kinda spavined her legs are. I’m sick and tired of seeing us rednecks made fun of.

JohnnyReb

January 26th, 2012
1:04 pm

There should be more interest in the fact that presently the Obama administration is spending 1.2 trillion more than revenues. And, it has been over 1000 days since Congress passed a budget due to the Democratically controlled Senate. Obama is on the stump hawking programs that spend even more money and grows government larger. He wants to enrich the current mortgage fix in a way that would be the biggest wealth transfer in our history. And, the loyal opposition are “wingnuts.” Really?

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:05 pm

Which genius predicted yesterday that the stock market would be down 200 points?

It was td, and it wasn’t yesterday, it was Tuesday night during the SOTU.

RB from Gwinnett

January 26th, 2012
1:05 pm

Black and P – “When will black people wake and realize white folks ….”

I’d bet good money the comments that come after that statement will almost always be racist and B&P doesn’t dissapoint.

B&P, until you can give white folks the same consideration you want for yourself, you’ll never escape racism because it dwells within you. A half black man is president; others have been secretary of state, secretary of defense; all within this evil white controlled world you see. How do you rationalize those facts against the world you’re stuck in?

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

January 26th, 2012
1:05 pm

So what if he is not a citizen he is stil light years better than all the A _- s clowns the Gobber party has ……

ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT

January 26th, 2012
1:06 pm

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
1:08 pm

Nobody but me reported the comment?

C’mon guys. Really.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:09 pm

One the best things I’ve read lately:

“President Bill Clinton would have eased the moment with a joke – handed her a scorpion paperweight, perhaps – and then pulled Arizona’s Medicaid funds when she wasn’t looking.”

“Did Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer disrespect President Obama?”
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2012/0126/Did-Arizona-Gov.-Jan-Brewer-disrespect-President-Obama-video

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
1:09 pm

@Black and proud

January 26th, 2012
12:42 pm
This is a bunch of garbage and black people in the State of Georgia really need to stand up and say something. If we are not careful they will have us back into slavery and take away our voting rights altogether if we let them.
****************************************************************************

You can’t get into a peeing match with a skunk.

A skunk will spew his stench on anyone he feels is a threat to him..

We will not be disrespected, belittled, or discriminated against.

Those days are GONE WITH THE WIND.

Our best weapon is our vote.

Newtpewt

January 26th, 2012
1:10 pm

She can be hereafter known as “Oily Taint.”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
1:12 pm

Bill O….. yes but truly how do you know that what you say is from the US Constitution is? Perhaps because the government represents it to be true and others compare to it. If you are challenging Hawaii’s certification of the birth certificate, then what records are true and what are not in the conspiracy. Did you know Bo was really a TRex? Its on video!

mm

January 26th, 2012
1:12 pm

“How do you rationalize those facts against the world you’re stuck in?”

Freudian slip there, huh RB?

Adam

January 26th, 2012
1:13 pm

Kamchak: It was td, and it wasn’t yesterday, it was Tuesday night during the SOTU.

I’m telling you man, this really messed up my plans to do a massive buy-in.

Z

January 26th, 2012
1:13 pm

The judge needs to fine Orly a million bucks for bringing about a frivolous hearing and wasting everyone’s time. This is the only way to do away with these ridiculous waste of time hearings. Obama is a natural born citizen and that is all there is to it. Enough!

HawaiiBorn

January 26th, 2012
1:15 pm

@ Jane “The birther point is that an NBC has to have a U.S. Citizen for both parents. I don’t know the answer to this, but I do hope the Supreme Court does rule on it someday to clear it up.”

The Supreme Court already has ruled on this. A little case known as US v Wong Kim Ark. An American born in San Francisco to two Chinese Nationals parents. At the time, Chinese could not become naturalized citizens (due the Chinese Exclusion Act). He was prevented from returning the US (from China) because the US claimed he was not a citizen. The Supreme Court went on to define what Natural Born Citizen was, and also ruled that Wong Kim Ark was a citizen because of his birth. that his parents citizenship was not a factor in his citizenship status.

This case has been cited more than a 1000 times in other cases on citizenship.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
1:15 pm

presently the Obama administration is spending 1.2 trillion more than revenues.

lesse. On one hand you have a bunch of people out of work even though there’s tons of stuff that needs fixing/building etc. On the other hand you have a bunch of people with more money than they know what to do with who see the USA as the only place they’ll trust to put it, and they’ll basically lend it to us for nothing.

yeah, obviously we gotta tell both of those groups of people to eff off, because “1.2 trillion” sounds all scary and stuff.

Wanna pull the other one? Got any other Highly Significant Factoids?

1000 days since Congress passed a budget

thanks!

Guy Incognito

January 26th, 2012
1:15 pm

Newtpewt

January 26th, 2012
1:10 pm

She can be hereafter known as “Oily Taint.”

That was worth a deep chortle:-))))))))))))

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:15 pm

Looks like Rand Paul was being a drama queen. I know, quelle surprise a GOP Senator is a drama queen.

http://youtu.be/36DVRmnKjAM

saywhat?

January 26th, 2012
1:17 pm

Now I am no constitutional scholar, but I am pretty sure that no where in the constitution does it say the President of the United States has to waste time talking to a bunch of stupid f–ksticks in Georgia just because they crapped their pants over not liking him. Am I right?

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:17 pm

I’m telling you man, this really messed up my plans to do a massive buy-in.

You can always sell, or short.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:18 pm

“She can be hereafter known as “Oily Taint.”

With a pearl necklace. Yikes!

Adam

January 26th, 2012
1:21 pm

sayhat? @ 1:17p :lol: :lol: :lol:

MrLiberty

January 26th, 2012
1:21 pm

I have to produce tons of documents for everything under the sun. Now they are talking in NY about having kids give a DNA sample before taking the SATs. There are serious questions about the legitimacy of the president’s qualifications for the office of president and nothing he has produced so far has aleviated those questions/concerns. His contempt and disdain for the constitution are evident from his behavior in office over the past 3 years. It is imperative that this question be answered once and for all and I applaud this judge for having the balls (even if a woman) to actually stick to principles and demand answers. Most of america doesn’t give a damn about the constitution, liberty, freedom, or the rule of law if the ends can justify the means. That is why the judicial branch was supposed to hold the politicians to the law. It is about time that is happening.

And by the way, I think that Bush was an unconstitutional war criminal too, so this is not about left/right, republican/democrat. I actually respect the constitution and want to see every past president tried and convicted for their crimes against it and all of the international laws they have violated (yes, virtually every one of them).

Adam

January 26th, 2012
1:22 pm

candide: While it remains unclear where Obama was born

That part is definitely NOT unclear.

Adam

January 26th, 2012
1:23 pm

MrLiberty: I have to produce tons of documents for everything under the sun.

So you had to submit your short form and your long form birth certificate to the entire American Public for scrutiny for every little thing you do? You must be pretty special!

willie lynch

January 26th, 2012
1:24 pm

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:18 pm

LMOA!!!

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:24 pm

saywhat?,

“but I am pretty sure that no where in the constitution does it say the President of the United States has to waste time talking to a bunch of stupid f–ksticks in Georgia just because they crapped their pants over not liking him.”

I think it was decided in the Supreme Court case of U.S. vs. the F-cktards. It can be directly applied to the f–ksticks as well.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
1:24 pm

There are serious questions about the legitimacy of the president’s qualifications for the office of president and nothing he has produced so far has aleviated those questions/concerns

Yes, but I am sure if he produced “something” that is all it would take…… :D Like before when the birthers demanded the long form after seeing the official form….. and now, well its “something else.” :roll:

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:25 pm

…it is more than clear that HIS VALUES ARE UN-AMERICAN.

This comedy sketch brought to you by the Un-American Activities Committee.

Oy!

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
1:25 pm

MrLiberty — “There are serious questions about the legitimacy of the president’s qualifications for the office of president”

No. There are not. The fact that you apparently *want* there to be some does not in any way actually *create* any.

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
1:26 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

I make no claims, with regard to Hawaii’s records. I merely stated that the copy of the birth certificate on the White House website is far from a photocopy and has been photoshopped on a Mac.

Why? I have absolutely no idea.

Is Obama a ‘Natural Born’ citizen? That is for the courts to decide.

Was Obama born in the United States? The burden of proof resides with the plaintiffs.

Is the document on the White House website heavily doctored up? Absolutely. And, concerning my original point, I can’t imagine for the life of me why anyone would doctor up a file of such huge importance.

I’m no ‘birther’, just an inherently curious person. So I checked out the birth certificate and wound up with more questions than answers.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:26 pm

Tick…tick…tick….

Again.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
1:26 pm

Kam…. throw a red card at 1:23 post (not Adam’s).

Adam

January 26th, 2012
1:27 pm

Keep: It’s gone.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
1:27 pm

Guy,

Yeah, he is left handed but governs from the center.

Adam

January 26th, 2012
1:28 pm

HDB

January 26th, 2012
1:28 pm

RB…….to take your statement one degree further:

RB, until Caucasians can give black foks the same consideration white people give to themselves, you’ll never escape racism because its denial is persistent. For the milestones that have been atttained, the preponderance of black people are still not considered to be on equal footing as their Caucasian counterparts. Note the denigration of minorities by conservatives…which has been a persistent theme since 1964. When admitted to by Lee Atwater, Michael Steele, and Ken Mehlman, conservatives STILL persist in remaining in denial.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
1:28 pm

No bill.

You are a birther.

RB from Gwinnett

January 26th, 2012
1:28 pm

mm – “Freudian slip there, huh RB?”

How so?

I’ll agree B&P is definately stuck in a world of racism, but I’d argue it’s a world he/she is responsible for and has the keys to escape, but has chosen not to. I have no idea what Freud would say about that.

BADA BING

January 26th, 2012
1:29 pm

Hey orly…..when you finish with that, see if you can get the kardashians deported.

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
1:29 pm

“Tick…tick…tick….”

You do this atleast once a day…what the hell does it mean?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:30 pm

“There are serious questions about the legitimacy of the president’s qualifications for the office of president and nothing he has produced so far has aleviated those questions/concerns.”

Not by rational people who paid attention the fact that the State of HI (R Gov.) has certified over and over his birth certificate. Only irrational people question his legitimacy. You can disagree with his policies if you care to, but if you choose to continue thinking he is not our legitimately elected President you simply make yourself look foolish and discredit anything further you write.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:30 pm

…what the hell does it mean?

Countdown.

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

“serious questions of legitiamacy?”

Yep, the birthers are legitimately whacked.

Seriously.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

Was Obama born in the United States? The burden of proof resides with the plaintiffs.

Ummm that would be Tate and Friends as plaintiffs.

I’m no ‘birther’, just an inherently curious person. So I checked out the birth certificate and wound up with more questions than answers.

well sure. I checked something out too online and I want all my questions answered. Everybody gets one question answered…its in the constitution (well now it is).

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

Was Obama born in the United States? The burden of proof resides with the plaintiffs.

Ummm that would be Tate and Friends as plaintiffs.

I’m no ‘birther’, just an inherently curious person. So I checked out the birth certificate and wound up with more questions than answers.

well sure. I checked something out too online and I want all my questions answered. Everybody gets one question answered…its in the constitution (well now it is).

getalife

January 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

bada,

They are the 1 % now,

Carry their water.

Bow down to the kardashians

willie lynch

January 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

MrLiberty

January 26th, 2012
1:21 pm

There is no legitimate doubt about where the president was born. The only doubt is in the mind of the foolish who think this garbage has any traction. Again, I would be much more concerned about what Bush and Cheney had to hide and why they refused to speak on record or outside of each others presence to the 9/11 Commission. These are the same two idiots who left office leaving the economy f***d and committing American lives to two wars, one of which was based on a lie.

You people really have the wrong thought process.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

bill o

Does it not matter one whit that the state of hawaii has validated his birth certification? Really, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin fer cryin out loud??

saywhat?

January 26th, 2012
1:31 pm

I thought the Birther thing had run its course. I guess these new folks must be the afterbirthers.

DBCOOPER

January 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

WE MUST PAY OUR FAIR SHARE!! .
.
.36 Obama aides owe $833,000 in back taxes

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

Bill O’Rights,

“So I checked out the birth certificate and wound up with more questions than answers.”

Which were answered earlier, and you chose to ignore it. Which makes you either purposely ignorant or a birther. But I guess those are one in the same.

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

“Countdown.” – Ya no shyte Sherlock, figured that. But to what? Obama’s re-election?

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
1:33 pm

getalife,

What makes you that?

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
1:33 pm

getalife,

Meant to say…

What makes you say that?

American

January 26th, 2012
1:34 pm

Watching the birthers like Taitz and the crazy commenters on here is like watching a dog chase it’s own tail. Just plain ignorance brought to its highest form. I know our country gives every citizen freedom of speech, but geez, some people just need to keep their traps shut.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:34 pm

But I guess those are one in the same.

All birthers are ignorant, but not all who are ignorant are also birthers.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
1:34 pm

bill,

Read your posts.

mm

January 26th, 2012
1:35 pm

“it’s a world he/she is responsible for and has the keys to escape”

Have you lived in his shoes?

I lived in GA most of my life. I know what he is talking about. I spent Christmas weekend with my family in GA and I received a refresher course in racist rhetoric.

Common Sense

January 26th, 2012
1:36 pm

Times wasting?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:37 pm

saywhat?,

“I guess these new folks must be the afterbirthers.”

Ewww…

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
1:37 pm

jewcowboy,

If I missed something, I do apologize. Please inform me, what did I miss, with regard to the birth certificate posted on the White House website?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:38 pm

Kamchak,

“All birthers are ignorant, but not all who are ignorant are also birthers.”

Valid point.

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
1:39 pm

How long, will Georgia racists love being simple-minded?

And scoffers delight themselves in scoffing and fools hate knowledge?

How long will the stench of racism and the putrid odor of ignorance contaminate Atlanta?

How long will it take for the memory to fade of the old master who beat and kept his property in their place?

One problem that people have with President Obama is a man can’t ride you unless your back is bent.

Another problem that people have with President Obama is that he is Unbought & Unbossed.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
1:40 pm

Bill O’Rights,

“Please inform me, what did I miss, with regard to the birth certificate posted on the White House website?”

ByteMe

January 26th, 2012
11:55 am

I’m not saying that Obama is not a citizen, I’m saying that the .pdf has been doctored with almost absolute certainty. And that, in my mind, warrants investigation. Do you not agree?

Nope.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265767/pdf-layers-obamas-birth-certificate-nathan-goulding

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
1:41 pm

getalife

January 26th, 2012
12:31 pm
godless,

“Knowing he was born in Hawaii, he probably swims well.”

That’s very funny getalife. Funnier than you know.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
1:41 pm

B. O’Rights — “I make no claims, with regard to Hawaii’s records.”

Good, because Hawaii has declared their records valid, and under the Full Faith and Credit Clause, all other states and territories (and the Federal government) are therefore obliged to consider them valid.

In short, without conclusive *evidence* that they are invalid, then the legal presumption to be made — under the Constitution — is that they are, in fact, valid.

Unless you’d like to present your hard-and-fast EVIDENCE that they are not, then your concerns and suspicions are irrelevant.

willie lynch

January 26th, 2012
1:41 pm

DBCOOPER

January 26th, 2012
1:32 pm

And your point is? We should blame Jeb Bush for his daughters drug habit? Ronald Reagan for the way his children turned out? Lindsey Graham for not coming out?

If President Obama had personally filed all of their tax returns you might have an argument. To try to tie him to their failings in this area is weak.

Let’s get Newt to speak truthfully concerning his request for threesomes… Sinner.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
1:43 pm

Getalife,

Why would Obama need to swim well when he can just walk on water. Dang that was funny.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
1:43 pm

Actually, I hope that that this whole issue goes away, quietly, finally…. If Bozo were found to be foreign born, it would do more to upset the balance of this country than anything we can imagine. I really don’t think that he alone would be smart enough to pull off the greatest con in American political history. He could not have done it by himself, he would have to have had conspirators who agreed to help him and his wife do what many still believe that they re guilty of. He has really done this country a service far beyond what many presidents have done in the past…. he has shown us how really terrible an elected official can be and has scared the pants off much of the electorate who just want him to go back to Chicago. I just want him to disappear from public office where he cannot do any more harm to this country than he already has. If he does this, he will have served this country well.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:43 pm

kitty

January 26th, 2012
1:44 pm

This sort of thing makes me so very glad I am not a Southerner by birth or inclination. Only reason I am here is paradise costs and the stupidity of this place makes it cheaper than my home state. I visit often just to get a bit of sanity and just ask for iced tea and not UNsweet iced tea. :)

Mitzymy

January 26th, 2012
1:45 pm

The judge should throw this mess out. How many ways are people going to disrespect the President of the United States. We have the govenor of Arizona yesterday pointing her finger in his face, which is total disrespect. We had Joe Wilson yelling out “you lie” at his state of the union address last year, and we have Hannity, who hates Obama with a passion, calling him all kinds of names daily, and saying false things about him. How much more can this man take. I weep for him.

Attention Georgia Birthers

January 26th, 2012
1:46 pm

If your case is thrown out, and President Barack Obama’s name DOES appear on the ballot, what will be your next stupid strategy? Will you EAT CROW?

Attention Georgia Birthers

January 26th, 2012
1:47 pm

….or will you burn the confederate flag?

Obozonomics

January 26th, 2012
1:47 pm

I am posting this again because some lib took it down;

When I had to prove that I am a citizen and my wife and child to be covered by health care insurance the one form of ID they would NOT except, and they were VERY clear, “No certificate of live birth will be accepted, only a certified birth certificate”. Since I thought that was strange I called the insurance company and they said that it was a federal law, so don’t blame them. Well if is good enough for Obozo how come not me? If you have half a brain you would not vote for this lying hypocrite.

Stevie Ray

January 26th, 2012
1:48 pm

JAY,

Between this ridiculous crap, the fact that the candidates with most cash win most all elections, and all the cronyism, and wealth building legally carried out by our electorate at the expense of our tax dollars, at what point does it become patriotic NOT to vote?

I’m disgusted by LEFT and RIGHT and feel that any vote is a vote for the status quo of a system that has completely left the voters….

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
1:48 pm

“I really don’t think that he alone would be smart enough to pull off the greatest con in American political history.”

True dat.

However, he was smart enough to convince a lot of people that a man with ZERO executive experience running in his very 1st term as a senator was qualified to be potus.Then again considering the collective IQ of his voter base its not that hard to pull a fast one on those people.

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
1:49 pm

AGB @ 1:46

Great idea.

Ingredients
16 pieces of crow breast meat (no bones) (8 crows)
16 pieces of green pepper
16 cherry tomatoes
8 button mushrooms
8 ears of sweet corn
1 1/2 cups of Teriyaki sauce
1/2 cup melted butter
8 kabob skewers
Preparation
Cut each piece of crow in half and place in a covered bowl with the Teriyaki sauce over night. Clean and cut each ear of corn into 3 pieces. Cook in boiling salt water for 10 minutes. Alternately put corn (3 pieces), green peppers (3 pieces) and cherry tomatoes (3) along with 4 pieces of crow meat on each skewer. Use 1 mushroom to top each skewer. Brush with melted butter and place on preheated grill for about 4 minutes. Flip, butter again and place back on grill for another 4 minutes. Repeat one last time for a total of 12 minutes or until they appear done. Serves four adults.

RB from Gwinnett

January 26th, 2012
1:49 pm

“There are serious questions about the legitimacy of the president’s qualifications for the office of president and nothing he has produced so far has aleviated those questions/concerns.””

I agree with this statement 100% and it has nothing to do with Obama’s birth certificat. His job performance, divisivness, and childish nature suggest to me he’s definately not qualified.

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
1:50 pm

jewcowboy,

Now that’s just the kind of feedback I was looking for! Perfect.

While you might all think I”m a birther, I really just stated an observation. What’s more, you’ve won me over on this. I care little about the other issues in the case, just what I found on my own laptop, with a Python script.

I had some grave concerns, when I first ran the script, but I think I can safely say, case closed.

Thanks for the link!

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
1:51 pm

@Obozonomics

January 26th, 2012
1:47 pm
I am posting this again because some lib took it down;

. Well if is good enough for Obozo how come not me? If you have half a brain you would not vote for this lying hypocrite.
****************************************************

What is that smell?

Its the stench of racism and the putrid odor of ignorance.

That smell is YOU.

Stevie Ray

January 26th, 2012
1:52 pm

MITZYMY,

The trend of disrespect for electorate is correlated with the extremist who control the money on both sides. That being said, it is true that since BO and Bush before him showed us no respect and they work for us, why do they deserve to be above same. IMO the Arizona governor was correct to point these out…where exactly is BO’s global immigration reform bill? Seems to me he is afraid of losing the Mexican voter contingents just like Clinton, who denied the advice of counsel and wouldn’t agree to push legislation that cross referenced VISA expiration with state drivers license data….all for votes…guess that didn’t work out too well eh?

HawaiiBorn

January 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

@Obozo – “Well if is good enough for Obozo how come not me? If you have half a brain you would not vote for this lying hypocrite.”

You pretty much contradicted yourself in your post. A Certificate of Live birth is a certified birth certificate as long as it meets the standards of federal law

1) registered within 1 year of the person’s birth (the registration date)
2) has an embossed seal for the department that handles it (usually the Department of Health)
3) has a signature of the registrar or director who oversees these records
4) (Applies to getting an SSN Card) Has the birthplace of the parents.

If you got a hospital souvenir that says birth certificate, then those are not legal. Only documents issued by the authority in your state will be accepted.

Attention Georgia Birthers

January 26th, 2012
1:53 pm

Granny Godzilla@1:49 and don’t forget to give all servings to all legislators that refuse to create a legitimate “Ethics Committee”!

Scott

January 26th, 2012
1:54 pm

Is it true that Obama uses a bogus CT Social Security number when he has never lived in Conneticut?
Why isn’t this front page news?

JustStop

January 26th, 2012
1:54 pm

“I’m not saying that Obama is not a citizen, I’m saying that the .pdf has been doctored with almost absolute certainty. And that, in my mind, warrants investigation. Do you not agree?”

No. First, there has been plenty of discussion about why a scanned document may have layers. But please listen carefully: The scanned PDF was provided for the public. Any “analysis” of the PDF is completely irrelevant, because the paper document was provided for the campaign, before the 2008 election. The state of Hawaii, through various officials, has stated numerous times that he was born in Hawaii, and the original document exists. They even allowed President Obama to receive a copy of that “long-form” certificate onto security paper, at his request.

Tell me, since the state of Hawaii has certified that he was born there and provided two certified birth certificates, what would be the reason to forge the irrelevant online version? There is none.

Stevie Ray

January 26th, 2012
1:55 pm

STENCH,

I’m not clear who exactly is pulling the race card but it’s overplayed to be sure. Seems to me the last thing african american leaders (or so called) want is an end to racism….I don’t think such cheap debate points such as the race card have any merit on anything discussed on this forum…doesn’t take much thought to throw that around.

Scott

January 26th, 2012
1:55 pm

If the President has nothing to hide, then why is he hiding?

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
1:56 pm

I was watching replays of the sotu address and my jaw dropped when Obama said he was going to open up something like 75% of offshore drilling for new sources of oil exploration. Is this not the guy whose administration is blocking the keystone pipeline? This guy would make George Orwell proud.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
1:56 pm

Is it true that Obama uses a bogus CT Social Security number when he has never lived in Conneticut[sic]?

Is it true that you haven’t read through the comments where this has already been debunked?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
1:56 pm

Obozonomics — “I am posting this again because some lib took it down;”

Posters here do not have the ability to edit or remove others’ postings. If something you posted fails to appear or disappears a short time later, then either you got caught posting a forbidden word by the autocensor, or else Jay or another moderator deliberately removed your post for some reason.

Either way, it’s usually a signal that you should lighten up on your rhetoric. Jay doesn’t ban a lot of posters, but he can do it and he *does* do it sometimes.

jim

January 26th, 2012
1:57 pm

@Scott, because there is and never has been any proof Obama’s used anything but his own SSN. The Search that Oily continues to bring up was done with no controls, no testing and no verification. Any computer person can tell you general searches like that will bring you a whole bunch of garbage. That’s why it’s not front page news, but a running joke.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
1:57 pm

HawaiiBorn, lucky you live Hawai’i, brah! :D

I was Mililani side. Where were you?

RB from Gwinnett

January 26th, 2012
1:58 pm

kitty – “Only reason I am here is paradise costs and the stupidity of this place makes it cheaper than my home state.”

The road that brough you here will take you back.

You won’t be missed.

Quotemeister

January 26th, 2012
1:58 pm

“Thulsa does not understand the issues.” Everyone on this board

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
2:00 pm

JustStop,

Now you understand why I had more questions than answers. Since, until today, I had seen no discussion whatsoever on the document’s multiple layers, having only downloaded the birth certificate two days ago. I haven’t followed this issue. So, if the argument is that I have been ignorant, then I’m guilty as charged.

Little-Acorn

January 26th, 2012
2:01 pm

Did anyone record the audio/video feed from the hearing? I’d be interested in seeing it.

Dena

January 26th, 2012
2:02 pm

Scott.
False. http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/ssn.asp

It’s been long demonstrated to be another made-up ‘discovery’.

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
2:02 pm

Thulsa

Listening skills.

He very specifically said safely.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
2:03 pm

Now that’s just the kind of feedback I was looking for! Perfect. While you might all think I”m a birther, I really just stated an observation. What’s more, you’ve won me over on this. I care little about the other issues in the case, just what I found on my own laptop, with a Python script.
I had some grave concerns, when I first ran the script, but I think I can safely say, case closed.

Certaintly that is some standards there. So in your inexpert opinion you raise “questions” that need to be addressed despite state certification and a number of actual court cases but a link to another webpage that apparently has information from someone with more information about a computer program suffices to resolve all your serious questions and it gets an Emily Latella “nevermind”. Geniuses I tell ya! :roll:

Scott

January 26th, 2012
2:04 pm

I agree that Obama is a citizen. The question is whether he is a ‘natural born citizen’. Obama was born to a Kenyan father and American mother so that makes him a dual citizen – not a natural born citizen. You can’t be born both dual and natural born. A dual citizen has to decide what nationality they”ll be at age 23. Where are those records? Pretty obvious to anyone that he’s not eligible according to the Constitution. Never mind his Birth Certificate, which seems to be seriously Photoshopped.

So, what now?

David Gurney

January 26th, 2012
2:04 pm

The jig is up,and pretty soon he will be…………….gone!

Stevie Ray

January 26th, 2012
2:04 pm

HOUSE ETHICS UPDATE:

Gal named Jesse in Royston’s office is beginning the sigh with every call….you gotta love it.

HawaiiBorn

January 26th, 2012
2:05 pm

@Joe Hussein Mama “I was Mililani side. Where were you?”

Born in the big Pink Hospital on the Hill and lived in Honolulu for 30 years. I moved to the mainland a few years ago.

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
2:06 pm

If the President has nothing to hide, then why is he hiding?

He likes to entertain the birfer babies with a game of peek-a-boo.

I'm the same height as rapper "LiL Wayne".......Grover Norquist

January 26th, 2012
2:06 pm

“the courtroom was filled with mostly older white men”……….Is John McCain in town??

Quotemeister

January 26th, 2012
2:07 pm

“Scott needs more thorazine.” Dr. Bombay

Guy Incognito

January 26th, 2012
2:08 pm

Pea’

It’ his “Countdown” to getting banned by Jay

BADA BING

January 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

GA is at the bottom of the list for Education, Health, Economic Recovery, Traffic, Pollution. We rank high on the Rudeness scale. And this trial makes us look bad? Too late.

David Gurney

January 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

His fellow alum,Charles Van Doren,showed Obama how to pull off a multi-year hoax.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:09 pm

Quotemeister

January 26th, 2012
1:58 pm
“Thulsa clearly understands the issues.” Everyone on this board

Typo correction. Your welcome quotemeister!

RB from Gwinnett

January 26th, 2012
2:10 pm

Scott, you do realize you’re arguing with people who think Obama is doing a great job and believe him when he says Buffet’s secretary pays more in taxes than he does, don’t you?

jim

January 26th, 2012
2:10 pm

@Scott, where does it say you can’t be both? And why should we care about another country’s laws that made Obama a British citizen at birth? If China were to declare all American Citizens as citizens of China, would that mean nobody could run for President?

HawaiiBorn

January 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

@ Scott ” I agree that Obama is a citizen. The question is whether he is a ‘natural born citizen’. Obama was born to a Kenyan father and American mother so that makes him a dual citizen – not a natural born citizen. You can’t be born both dual and natural born. A dual citizen has to decide what nationality they”ll be at age 23. Where are those records? Pretty obvious to anyone that he’s not eligible according to the Constitution. Never mind his Birth Certificate, which seems to be seriously Photoshopped.

So, what now?”

1) So what if he was born to a Kenyan Father? Chester A Arthur was born to an Irish father.

2) nothing in the Constitution says what you can’t be to be the President. Only what you have to be. Dual citizens are not excluded from qualifying to be President. No law supports this claim. US v Wong Kim Ark already dealt with this.

4) Wrong. many dual citizens don’t even realize they are dual citizens. And many nations require that you submit an application to be RECOGNIZED as a citizen of that country (not apply for it). If you have an Irish born Grandfather, or a Italian born father, yet they are both citizens of the US, you are an Irish citizen or an Italian citizen.

5) No, its not pretty obvious, because 200 years of legal history has shown us that by being born on US soil makes you a natural born citizen (otherwise we woldn’t have the nutcases who hate illegal immigrants cry about anchor babies)

6) Hawaii disagrees since they provided Obama with a paper official document of his COLB. That would be used as evidence. Not an image on the net, studied by fake experts.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

“Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans. The conversations are thick with various birthed theories being bandied about”

I almost didn’t notice Jay’s not so subtle suggestion of racism. Libs do loves their racism card they do!

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

HawaiiBorn — “Born in the big Pink Hospital on the Hill”

Aha, Crippler, I mean Tripler! :D

“and lived in Honolulu for 30 years.”

You magnificently lucky B*ST*RD. :D

“I moved to the mainland a few years ago.”

Good grief, whatever for? To be close to family? Or for job opportunities?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
2:11 pm

Okay, I confess. Here is the real info:

YOUR/OUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS A SECURITY CERTIFICATE ON THE NEW YORK STOCK EXCHANGE. Order a new birth certificate should only cost you a few bucks and look at the bottom it will say “this is printed on security paper do not accept if not on full color security paper or something to that effect.”

Then look at the right/left hand lower corner you will see a series of imprinted numbers in RED these numbers are a securities stock exchange number on the world stock exchange goto any good stock office (or find an online company to look up your number) and ask them to look them up and see how much this stock is worth and they will check it on the New York Stock Exchange and find you your name because we are all worth money to the international bank that bought each and everyone of us…
If the name on the birth certificate were to represent the baby as a natural individual, it would be spelled with the appropriate upper and lower case lettering. For example, John Smith, not JOHN SMITH. The all-capitals spelling of the name creates a corporate fiction (the corporate Trust with the Trade Name), which the government can regulate and control under commercial rules / regulations and codes.

The human being assumes surety for this corporate Trust, and so when held liable under commercial code, the surety is held, unless disputed by a lawful Notice and Claim, and/or establishing your own lien on the corporate Trust (such as with a Security Agreement) and giving notice of the lien (as with a Financing Statement such as a UCC-1), though you first have to establish a lawful undisputed claim first to do this.

A little more detailed information

When a child is born, the hospital generally sends the original, not a copy, of this record of live birth to the State Bureau of Vital Statistics, sometimes called the Department of Health and Rehabilitative Services (HRS). Each STATE is required to supply the corporate UNITED STATES with birth, death, and health statistics. The STATE agency that receives the original record of live birth keeps it and then issues another Birth Certificate in a different form where the name of the baby is spelled in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. This creates a “legal person” as opposed to a natural individual.

The Birth Certificate issued by the State is then registered with the U.S. Department of Commerce – the Executive Office specifically through their own sub-agency, the U.S. Census Bureau, which is responsible to register vital statistics from all the states. Thus, the birth certificate is registered in international commerce. The word registered, as it is used in commercial law, does not mean that the ALL CAPITAL version of the name was �merely� noted or recorded in a book for future reference purposes. When a birth certificate is registered with the U.S. Department of Commerce, the Treasury will issue a bond on the value of the birth certification. That bond is then made available for purchase on a securities exchange and is bought by the Federal Reserve Bank. This purchase then become the authority or collateral to issue Federal Reserve Notes, which we use as a medium of exchange.

The bond is held in trust for the Federal Reserve at the Depository Trust Corporation at 55 Water Street in New York City, about two blocks down the street from the Federal Reserve.

This process creates a burden in that the ALL-CAPITAL legal person named on the birth certificate has become a surety, or guarantor, a condition and obligation that is automatically and unwittingly assumed unless you rebut the presumption by effectively noticing government.

Logan

January 26th, 2012
2:12 pm

Georgia,

Thank you for making us look a little less retarded today.

Sincerely,
Texas

P.S. Sadly, we will probably do something to take the spotlight back real soon.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:12 pm

“Obama was born to a Kenyan drunk and American mother”

Just a minor typo correction this time.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
2:13 pm

I almost didn’t notice Jay’s not so subtle suggestion of racism. Libs do loves their racism card they do!

False play of racism card…10 yds. Doom is ignorant of the real interpretation of the code words: TEA PARTY! Wonder how you could confuse a Tea Party shout out with a race issue?

Quotemeister

January 26th, 2012
2:13 pm

“Chad Ochocinco for the win.” Every right thinking American out there.

HawaiiBorn

January 26th, 2012
2:13 pm

@Joe Hussein Mama “Aha, Crippler, I mean Tripler!”

hahaha. Yeah, its cripler for a reason (my friend was a subject to their “cripling” efforts)

“Or for job opportunities?”

Job of course. Pay is better up here. My job here, pays $30K more than what I would get in Hawaii for the same job. If I could get paid the same (or more because of the cost difference between living in Hawaii than the mainland) I’d move back in a heart beat.

Ernest T. Bass

January 26th, 2012
2:15 pm

Roughly 100 people are in the courtroom, most of them older white Americans.

Its racism pure and simple. Fortunately they are old and will be dead soon.

Then maybe we can all move on.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

I would libs love the birther issue and that they would hope it would drag on and on. Gives em ample opportunities to parlay their race card.

Jay

January 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

Stevie Ray, that’s a good sign on the ethics front. I’m getting similar reports elsewhere.

HawaiiBorn

January 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

@Keep Up the Good Fight!

More Sovereign Citizen/Freeman on the Land Conspiracy BS?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Freeman_on_the_land#Birth_certificates

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

Chief counsel for the Justice Dept just took the 5th when asked to testify in the Fast and Furious hearings. This thing just keeps getting better and better.

Ernest T. Bass

January 26th, 2012
2:16 pm

Its also a great day to be a Georgian

markie mark

January 26th, 2012
2:17 pm

as most posters on here know, I am no fan of the President. But this is the biggest cluster@#%% was of time and money that I have seen in a long time. As the godson of a Superior Court Judge here in GA, and the son of a lawyer and a court reporter, I can only shake my head at the stupidity of this whole issue. And also, another reason why I support a “loser pays” philosophy in an attempt to slow down some of these frivolous lawsuits, actions, etc.

markie mark

January 26th, 2012
2:18 pm

thats WASTE of time and money…..i know, proofreading is fundamental. too…..

Judy Brown

January 26th, 2012
2:18 pm

Orly Taiz is clearly off her meds. Has anyone checked if she has broken out of any mental health institutions?
When she swore herself in as a witness, sat down in the witness chair and started rattling off junk, hearsay she found on the internet, I knew she was looney-tunes. Even the judge had to stop her and ask for her testimony in writing as he was too embarrassed to let her continue. What cracker box did she get her law degree from?

Stevie Ray

January 26th, 2012
2:19 pm

JAY,

Gonna have my 16 and 13 year old girls call later as well. Civics lesson. Big fun and great column.

I’m still not sure NOT voting is more patriotic that the converse. Seems to be a vote for the BS status quo of a system that has no remote interest in anything other than re-election and cash……

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:20 pm

“interpretation of the code words: TEA PARTY!”

Aaaah. I see now. Its double super secret code for the dreaded tea party. You know, those crazy people who want the govt to live within its means and balance the budget. Hell if that aint a crazy philosophy then what is?

I wonder how many Congressman have that T beside their names? I see a lot of Rs and Ds and maybe even an L or an I but haven’t seen many Ts if any in there.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
2:20 pm

HawaiiBorn – “Job of course. Pay is better up here. My job here, pays $30K more than what I would get in Hawaii for the same job. If I could get paid the same (or more because of the cost difference between living in Hawaii than the mainland) I’d move back in a heart beat.”

That often seems to be the reason island folks come to the mainland; better pay and lower cost of living. Just bear in mind that you’re probably not going to find any place that knows how to prepare island specialties like saimin, spam musubi and manapua. No okazuyas around here. However, if you can find a good BBQ place with decent macaroni or potato salad, you can come up with a reasonable facsimile of a plate lunch.

I missed sweet tea the whole time I was living out there, but now I miss Hawaiian-grown pineapple. No other pineapple is as sweet, IMO.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
2:20 pm

HawaiiBorn…. well it has truthiness :D

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
2:20 pm

I almost didn’t notice Jay’s not so subtle suggestion of racism.

what is that now–five, six guys who’ve sounded the winger-whinge I’d parodied back @ 10.37?

I'm the same height as rapper "LiL Wayne".......Grover Norquist

January 26th, 2012
2:23 pm

I bet you most of the older white guys were in the courtroom because they thought georgia brought Bingo back

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
2:23 pm

Judy Brown — “What cracker box did she get her law degree from?”

I don’t recall the specifics, but I seem to recall that she followed some non-traditional means of being admitted to the bar; something that didn’t require a formal law school education, but which is very restricted in the US. Do we have any attorneys in here today who can speak knowledgeably on that topic?

Scott

January 26th, 2012
2:24 pm

What about Barack being adopted by his Indonesian step father and changing his name to Barry Soetoro. Wasn’t he adopted and change his name – I’ve seen the Indonesian school records with Barry Soetoro. When did he go back from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama? Don’t you have to go to court to legally change your name, there would be a record of that, right? Shouldn’t we know about that?

Guy Incognito

January 26th, 2012
2:24 pm

Doomy,

The chair is against the wall. John has a long mustache. St Moritz is beautiful in July

Now use your Lil Orphan Annie Decoder Ring to reveal the secret racist message

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
2:24 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

Why do you think I came to this blog? To rally up support for a cause or find answers my questions? Having not followed this case, the National Review article is the first I have seen, with regard to the .pdfs layers.

Furthermore, after reading the article, I scanned a document and converted it to .pdf, to test the assertion. To my surprise, multiple layers were created. Why surprise? Because I have written plenty of applications that convert the results of database queries into .pdfs, along with plenty of other applications that manipulate image data. I wouldn’t have, by any means, expected the result, which is why I performed the simple test.

Never claimed to be an expert. My area is data integration, not imaging. And, my questions have been answered.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
2:24 pm

what is that now–five, six guys who’ve sounded the winger-whinge I’d parodied back @ 10.37?

Parody or prescience?

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:25 pm

Speaking of the tea party. Are those kwazy tea party folks still having women raped at their tents, destroying public and private property, not paying permit fees, attacking police officers, defacating on their police cars,urinating and doing drugs in public, getting arrested by the thousands, and just plain stinking in public after days of not showering? Oops. Nevermind. I had them confused with those nice OWS folks. Doomy’s straight now.

Corey

January 26th, 2012
2:25 pm

This just in

The Dow Jones industrial average traded near its highest close since the 2008 financial crisis Thursday afternoon after solid news on factory orders and strong earnings from U.S. manufacturers highlighted the economy’s growing momentum.

Silly me, I forgot that our right leaning commenters on here don’t care for good news about the ecnomy because the Kenyan is in the White House. What was I thinking?

St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia

January 26th, 2012
2:25 pm

“Is it true that…blahh blahh ?” See how they do it? put a ?? after it
and you can say anything.
Then follow that with “it brings up more questions” duh- at least 1 more
And since its a question, it warrants investigating, don’t you agree?
(bonus question)

They learned that from Faux News & AM radio. Here, I’ll try it –

Does Newt get freaky with barnyard animals?
It brings up the question. (duh since i put a ?? on it)
And since its a question, doesn’t it warrant an investigation?

Does Mittens have cult animal sacrifices ?
It brings up the question. (duh since i put a ?? on it)
And since its a question, doesn’t it warrant an investigation?

Are most of the Ga Republican leaders on the sex offenders list?
It brings up the question. (duh since i put a ?? on it)
And since its a question, doesn’t it warrant an investigation?

They just can’t stand it. I’ve never seen racist derangement like
this breed of con has. But hatahs gon hate.
Whatcha gonna do?
It brings up the question…….
And since……..you know the rest…..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
2:26 pm

Joe Mama — here you go:

Taft Law School is a distance education, online-based law school based in Santa Ana, California. Taft Law School and William Howard Taft University comprise The Taft University System. The State Bar of California Committee of Bar Examiners has registered Taft Law School as an unaccredited correspondence law school. As a California State Bar registered school, graduates are allowed to sit for the California Bar exam. …. Since the inception of the law school, 279 Taft graduates have taken the California Bar Examination. Of this group, 194 have passed the examination resulting in a cumulative pass rate of 69.5%

Peadawg

January 26th, 2012
2:27 pm

“Gives em ample opportunities to parlay their race card.”

That and ample opportunities to point and laugh at the GOP.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:28 pm

Guy Incognito,

Naw. I’m not good at detecting the race card except when its obvious. I generally leave finding racism to the libs. They can find it everywhere. They find it hiding in every nook, cranny, and under every rock.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
2:29 pm

Why do you think I came to this blog? To rally up support for a cause or find answers my questions?

Well if you are coming to this blog for “answers”, you may want to stand in line to get your sign. Normally they are awarded quickly but todays topic has created a backlog.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
2:30 pm

P.S. Sadly, we will probably do something to take the spotlight back real soon.

LOL, Lone Star brother.

We feel your pain.

BTW, if you’re not familiar with our state motto, it is, “We put the fun back in fundamentalism!”

(Gawd help us!)

OustTheO's

January 26th, 2012
2:30 pm

Scott: Good try, man.

I’m sure that, on this site you have learned that “it’s difficult to have a battle of the wits when your opponents are un-armed”… No wonder they call them Georgia Crackers!

I'm the same height as rapper "LiL Wayne".......Grover Norquist

January 26th, 2012
2:30 pm

What happen to good ole seanile republicans that use to say things like

1. If you hate the President or you are against the war, you are unpatriotic
2. Freedom isn’t Free
3. Operation Iraqi freedom
4. Same sex marriage
5. WMD’s
6. Yellow cake
7. Shooting someone while drunk
8. Mission accomplished
9. Oil will fund the war
10. bush, a guy want to have a beer with

You guys have really falling off. Birth certificiate, is that the best you can do.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
2:32 pm

KUTGF — “The State Bar of California Committee of Bar Examiners has registered Taft Law School as an unaccredited correspondence law school.”

ZOMG online law degree! :eek:

Nohopeinobama

January 26th, 2012
2:33 pm

Obama’s entire presidency has been a waste of tax payers money. Why should a little court case in Georgia be such a big deal?

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:33 pm

Gotta go out and feed the neighbors mule. For politically correct blog reasons I’ve had to change his name to Barry.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
2:33 pm

AmVet — “BTW, if you’re not familiar with our state motto, it is, “We put the fun back in fundamentalism!”

As opposed to Kansas, which claims to have put the “dam” back in “fundamentalism.” :D

BADA BING

January 26th, 2012
2:34 pm

michelle’s Courtroom Exercise and FashionTips
Atlanta Edition

Orly, remember to bare those toned arms. They really help to emphasize your point when making big, sweeping gestures

Wear a purple cocktail dress in court for no reason. Just for the hell of it

Point to the empty table where the President should be sitting when you accuse him of something. See how many times everybody turns their head when you do it. It really works those neck muscles and provides comic relief

Stand up and object to every question. It really burns those quads, and shapes those calf muscles. You want to look good at the Press Conference

Bill O'Rights

January 26th, 2012
2:34 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

LOL.

Point taken.

St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia

January 26th, 2012
2:34 pm

AmV-”BTW, if you’re not familiar with our state motto, it is, “We put
the fun back in fundamentalism!”

And took the mental out

Commonscents

January 26th, 2012
2:35 pm

Sorry I missed this. It was probably like watching a train crash into a fireworks warehouse full of fireworks with bikini models standing outside.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
2:35 pm

doom

Please cool it with the stuffy embellishment. The way you describe it every protester was up to no good debauchery, when in fact it was a sordid few, and some of them were probably anarchists who needed to get their jollies off letting the others take the blame. The iced tea party people are just the remnants of the mccain/palin sore loser rallies. Where were they when the previous president was running up the debt with nary a peep? They could care less but put an african american in the white house and watch the water boil…

godless heathen

January 26th, 2012
2:35 pm

Bill O’Rights ,

Don’t be concerned. Keep up the Good Fight’s sole purpose for living is to lurk here and try to find where some conservative has slipped up or in Keep’s mind, been less than forthcoming. The other day I made a totally facetious statement about Warren Buffet paying less taxes than his secretary and Keep had a field day inferring that I wasn’t smart enough to know the difference between tax rate and taxes paid. Funny thing he didn’t call out Obama when Obama said the same thing in his SOTU speech last Tuesday.

Scott

January 26th, 2012
2:37 pm

Hawaiiborn – good try but you’re not seeing what the founders intended by using that term – natural born. The Constitution is very clear. Our founders required a “natural born citizen” so that there would not be dual allegiances of a Commander in Chief, head of our armed services. A dual citizen has dual allegiances.

A natural born citizen is a citizen by natural law. “The citizens are the members of the civil society, bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority; they equally participate in its advantages. The natives or natural-born citizens are those born in the country of parents who are citizens.”
Emerich de Vattel – The Law of Nations – 1758

Also, the “ONLY” U.S. Supreme Court case to comment on this subject directly is Minor v. Happersett (1874). The court said, “It was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” No other case nor Amendments apply here.

So what we’re seeing here is that this isn’t a frivilous case. WE THE PEOPLE need answers from our Courts and our President.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
2:38 pm

Oh how precious, the birthers are circling the prams.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
2:38 pm

Of all the ignoramuses out there, birthers really do take the (yellow?) cake.

These twits actually believe that the multiple intelligence agencies charged with doing so have overlooked critical information regarding BHO’s eligibility that they, the super sleuths, have found???

A ludicrous bunch…

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
2:39 pm

Mick “when in fact it was a sordid few”

Adam rejects that as an excuse when it comes to the cats being tortured by a right wing hate monger…but he’ll likely accept it as an excuse for OWS

JoeW

January 26th, 2012
2:41 pm

This guy is not a journalist. He carries the water for Obama and the Democrat part totally biased, no matter what, even at the risk of treason. So, why should I listen to his garbage when he blatantly lies (to me lies mean half truth or exaggerated facts) instead of reporting the facts. Jay Bookman, go back to under the rock where you came from, I do not predict a long journalistic career for you.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
2:42 pm

Welcome to the land of birthers..

He was born in Hawaii. Period.

Get over it sore losers.

You lost.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
2:42 pm

Funny thing he didn’t call out Obama when Obama said the same thing in his SOTU speech last Tuesday.

Funny thing….you don’t know that I did not send the Presidenta an email. :D But perhaps you’ll be precise so that there is no misunderstanding by those who may not have the real facts. If that is too much to ask from you, and you have to whine about it, it says more about your credibility than mine. And if you decide to become an attorney, you may want to pay attention in that class about credibility and clarity. :D

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
2:43 pm

So, why should I listen to his garbage when he blatantly lies (to me lies mean half truth or exaggerated facts) instead of reporting the facts.

JoeW, are you being held hostage against your will and forced to read and post here at gunpoint?

Do you need one of us to call 911 for you?

Scott

January 26th, 2012
2:43 pm

Uh-oh. Obama got punked…
Judge Malihi talked to the attorneys in chambers before the hearing this morning and told them that he was going to enter a DEFAULT JUDGMENT against Obama and recommend that Obama’s name not be on the Georgia ballot! All of the attorneys expressed a desire to put an abbreviated streamlined case on the record and the judge agreed.

The Georgia SOS has already indicated that he will follow the judge’s recommendation. That means that Obama will not get any popular vote or electors from the state of Georgia.

Next time this happens, he needs to fight back and not run.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
2:44 pm

joe,

Jay envy much?

No Kidding

January 26th, 2012
2:45 pm

“Thulsa is so full of -ish he needs exlax.” – Thomas Jefferson.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
2:46 pm

Joew — “even at the risk of treason.”

Fainting couch STAT! :D

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
2:47 pm

I don’t think JoeW can handle the truth. For one thing, Orly don’t love you. She just needs your money to continue her birfer wars.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
2:47 pm

Good one, JHM…

Even as a Jayhawker by birth, that’s funny.

But seriously, when it comes to the twisted cons and Westboro types in Kansas, I don’t.

I just shake my head…

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:47 pm

Living in the country is pretty cool. On top of feeding my neighbor’s mule he had 2 fattened up billy goats that I didn’t even know about. Both of them came up and I fed them some carrots too. I’m going to name those billy goats karl and kurt. Cool critters.

St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia

January 26th, 2012
2:48 pm

“Well, they SAY he was born in Hawaii, which is, as you can see
on the map, is right below Texas and beside Alaska.”

-Thomas Jefferson

Mick

January 26th, 2012
2:49 pm

doom

Try some of that goat milk, it’ll put hair on your back…

Jeff and the Camaros

January 26th, 2012
2:49 pm

I am embarrased to be from Georgia at this moment. We look like a bunch of idiots here.

Jm

January 26th, 2012
2:49 pm

Romney up 8 across the board over newt n 3 new polls

Eat it

Mitt is going to crush O

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:50 pm

No Kidding

January 26th, 2012
2:45 pm
“Thulsa is so full of -ish he needs exlax.” –

Personal insults directed at one blogger are strictly prohibited per Jay’s policy. Yellow card for you. In the name of the consistency that libs are of course not famous for I fully expect Jay to throw the yellow card out there. If he’s consistent of course.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
2:51 pm

I do not predict a long journalistic career for you.

You mean ANOTHER 30 years or so?

But the treason part was funny. (You rabid types make for great McCarthyites.)

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
2:51 pm

It just occurred to me that the Left is of times clamoring about their being disenfranchised by the Right. Today however, it might just happen as the result of the Left.

If you are ordered to appear in Court for a stupid case, and neither you or your attorney bother to show up to defend it, the Plaintiff in the stupid case usually gets everything he asks for in about 45 seconds. Mind you I don’t know much about the administrative process of the Sec. of State’s Court process, but you have to be extremely dumb or extremely arrogant to not appear or have someone appear on your behalf.

It will be interesting to see the result of this because the President himself might have pulled the rug from beneath his adoring followers.

HawaiiBorn

January 26th, 2012
2:53 pm

@Scott “What about Barack being adopted by his Indonesian step father and changing his name to Barry Soetoro. Wasn’t he adopted and change his name – I’ve seen the Indonesian school records with Barry Soetoro. When did he go back from Barry Soetoro to Barack Obama? Don’t you have to go to court to legally change your name, there would be a record of that, right? Shouldn’t we know about that?

No truth in that claim. Lolo Soetoro never adopted Barack Obama. There would be court records.
Lolo soetoro filled out the school form prior to the Obamas arrving in Indonesia. He put down Barry Soetoro, more than likely, hoping to get him into school quicly once he arrived. Indonesian law, didn’t allow fro Obama to be adopted anyway, as he was 6 years old (you have to be under 5 years of age)

HawaiiBorn

January 26th, 2012
2:53 pm

@Scott “Hawaiiborn – good try but you’re not seeing what the founders intended by using that term – natural born. The Constitution is very clear. Our founders required a “natural born citizen” so that there would not be dual allegiances of a Commander in Chief, head of our armed services. A dual citizen has dual allegiances.”

In a speech before the House of Representatives in May 1789, James Madison (the Father of our Constitution) said:

It is an established maxim, that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth, however, derives its force sometimes from place, and sometimes from parentage; but, in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States.

http://www.enotes.com/topic/Natural_born_citizen_of_the_United_States#James_Madison.2C_the_.22Father_of_the_U.S._Constitution.22

“Emerich de Vattel – The Law of Nations – 1758″

Emerich de Vattel had no influence on our citizenship law in the US. He was referenced for International Law (which is what he was famous for) citizenship laws are domestic law.

From Wong Kim Ark:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0169_0649_ZO.html

It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.

oh and Emerich de Vattel was such an influence that our 1st and 2nd Amendments to the US Constitution is in direct conflict of his beliefs. HE didn’t believe in the freedom of speech of the citizens and he was gainst anyone from owning guns, which would be only reserved for the rich and/or military

5-0

January 26th, 2012
2:54 pm

Yawn…Old people gotta do something. They might as well try to keep a sitting President off the ballot.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
2:55 pm

Mick,

Don’t know if the neighbor would take too well to me milking his goats. But I hear ya as far as it putting hair on a man’s back. Besides I already drink either almond milk or soy milk. Some liberal chick I dated once talked me into it. The almond milk sucks but darn if the regular soy milk doesn’t taste better than regular milk to me. You can get it flavored in chocolate or vanilla but the plain ole soy milk has a slight, very nice vanilla taste to it. If you haven’t tried it try it sometime. I don’t mind eating like one a them PETA people if its actually better for ya.

WOPRjr

January 26th, 2012
2:56 pm

One may deride Taitz for her accent, but NOBODY can impune her PATRIOTISM or tenacity.
If you think BO is a natural born citizen,it’s because you were deceived.:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/51843919/Rep-John-Bingham-Father-of-14th-Amendment-Defined-Natural-Born-Citizen
http://www.art2superpac.com/UserFiles/image/!Presidents-Eligibility-Grandfather-Clause-Natural-Born-Citizen-Clause-or-Seated-by-Fraud.pdf

RB from Gwinnett

January 26th, 2012
2:57 pm

mick – “The iced tea party people are just the remnants of the mccain/palin sore loser rallies. Where were they when the previous president was running up the debt with nary a peep?”

You’re not paying very close attention are you mick? The TP folks were never fans of McCain and most would call him a RINO. The previous president and the debt run up with the McCain’s of congress in charge were the reason the TP folks arose from the ranks of the R party and said “stop spending like democrats”.

As many times as that has been posted here and you still don’t get it, I don’t suspect this time will help you any more than all the others.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
2:58 pm

If you are ordered to appear in Court for a stupid case, and neither you or your attorney bother to show up to defend it, the Plaintiff in the stupid case usually gets everything he asks for in about 45 seconds

Tommy seems confused about the requirement of proof in a case of default in a court case and then the requirements for a admninstrative hearing. And yet he made that post. Must be his coffee.

godless heathen

January 26th, 2012
2:58 pm

Keep,

If I become an attorney can I bill someone $300 an hour to blog all day?

Mick

January 26th, 2012
2:58 pm

doom

I’m down with that. Some conservative chick turned me onto soy milk years ago, she said it would make my mind right…

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
2:59 pm

As many times as that has been posted here and you still don’t get it…

Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true.

Just sayin’.

Obamamomma

January 26th, 2012
3:00 pm

Jay Bookman, you forgot to mention that you are a white person writing this story. The only facts are that Obama must qualify to be POTUS and Obama is refusing to do so.

You should have mentioned the eye color of those hundred people in the courtroom which is just as important as their skin, hair, or color of their clothes.

In my opinion, you are a racist Mr. Bookman!

Mick

January 26th, 2012
3:00 pm

rb

Nice try but they are basically the left over nasties who made up the palin rallies. All of them are a day late and a dollar short. Fakest movement I have ever witnessed and where are they now?

No Kidding

January 26th, 2012
3:01 pm

Not a personal insult, Doom. Just my perception given the content of your posts. However out of respect for Jay’s blog, my apologies to you for any offense taken.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
3:01 pm

WOPRjr — “but NOBODY can impune her PATRIOTISM or tenacity.”

A snapping turtle is tenacious, but not in a good way. And if PATRIOTISM is exhibited by pitching an effing fit and holding your breath until you turn blue, as Ms. Taitz has, then I want no further part of it.

Sometimes bad public behavior is just bad public behavior. Not everyone who defies authority has a point, an argument or a reason.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
3:02 pm

Jm,

Yep. Romney looks to be pulling away. Too much money and organization for Newt. But I would love to see Newt debate Obama one on one and just annihilate him. It would be a bloodbath but I don’t think we will get to see it. My feeling is that Romney beats Obama solidly in a general election. But I think Obama would maybe beat Newt. It wouldn’t be all that bad if Obama won re-election. He would continue to screw things up, people would eventually grow tired of the blame W crap after 8 years of Obama, and we wouldn’t suffer under another Dem president probably for 20 years or more. The monumental failure of Obama would be so seared into people’s memories after 8 years that we could reasonably count on not having another D for potus for a long, long time.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
3:02 pm

“So what we’re seeing here is that this isn’t a frivilous case. WE THE PEOPLE need answers from our Courts and our President.”

hmmm, so what questions do you need answered that hasnt been answered by the Prez.

5-0

January 26th, 2012
3:02 pm

Could it be that Kamchak’s perception of the TP is all wrong. It’s convenient to define you enemy based on your own terms…even though you have no idea what your talking about.

David Keith

January 26th, 2012
3:04 pm

“most of them older white Americans.” How do you know they are Americans? Because they are white?

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
3:05 pm

Keep – I guess you don’t go to Court too often.

As for an administrative hearing process, I guess you don’t read very well either – “Mind you I don’t know much about the administrative process of the Sec. of State’s Court process…”

gadem

January 26th, 2012
3:06 pm

Why do Republicans hate America so much? Why do they want America to fail just so that they can get someone elected?

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
3:07 pm

“The other day I made a totally facetious statement about Warren Buffett”

Godless heathen,

I don’t think he understands facetious statements or dry humor. I once made an outrageous statement that I just assumed people would know I wasn’t serious. He called me on it and when I told him I was just kidding and was shocked that he didn’t realize it he still didn’t get it. He thought I was backtracking when the reality is that he just didn’t get it. So now you gotta be careful making facetious, or tongue in cheek, or very dry humor statements around him. He won’t get it and instead will try to use it in a dishonest fashion to say that you are being dishonest. Direct facetious statements at others who will get it if you can.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
3:09 pm

doom@3:02

Nice dream but reality must snap you back…newt has done a fine job of deconstructing romney, at the same time shooting himself in the arse. They are the abbott and costello of the conned…

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
3:13 pm

No kidding,

You could insult me all you wanted to and it wouldn’t bother me. I actually thought your post was kinda funny. And you need not apologize to me either. I was really just testing Jay to see if he applies the same standards to liberals as to cons. I have my answer now. Anyway you can lob an insult at me and I’m cool with it. Just as long as its funny that is.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

“They are the abbott and costello of the conned”

Mick,

Well I have to admit it. I laughed out VERY LOUDLY on that one. Nice one Mick.

Scott

January 26th, 2012
3:15 pm

Taking everything in consideration, i.e: photoshopped digital copy of his birth certificate, Conneticut Social Security number used on his Selective Service registration and on his 2009 Income Tax return, the questions surrounding his adoption by his Indonesian step-father, the questions about him receiving a Fulbright scholarship to Occidental College (meant for only for non-Americans) and him using different names (Barry Soetoro and Barack Obama) – there is a need to air this out.

We need answers because the controversy isn’t going away and it’s gotten very serious. Obama will not be allowed on the GA ballot! All GA delegates will go to the Republicans.

The Democrats need to put an end to this and force the President to release his records proving once and for all he’s elegible.Quit playing games and stonewalling.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
3:17 pm

*BREAKING NEWS* only to those who didnt already know this:

-Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice-

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found.

http://news.yahoo.com/low-iq-conservative-beliefs-linked-prejudice-180403506.html

getalife

January 26th, 2012
3:17 pm

“In my opinion, you are a racist Mr. Bookman!”

Funniest comment this cycle.

Congrats.

Midori

January 26th, 2012
3:17 pm

Or about this Scott — get a effing life.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
3:19 pm

The Democrats need to put an end to this and force the President to release his records proving once and for all he’s elegible[sic].

The State of Hawaii has repeatedly stated that his birth certificate is valid.

As long as silly people continue to doubt this, it will be news and these people are subject to well deserved derisive scorn.

larry

January 26th, 2012
3:20 pm

Guess trying to take people’s right to vote wasnt good enough for the Repubs……………

Now they are trying to take a legitimate canidate , The President , of all people off the ballet.

They failed in several states but succeed in getting an adminstrative hearing here.

Georgia used to be the most progressive state in the South. Now its the most embarrassing.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:20 pm

Scott – “That means that Obama will not get any popular vote or electors from the state of Georgia.”

Oh no! You mean that something that was going to happen anyway is actually going to happen? Oh the Humanity!

Paul

January 26th, 2012
3:20 pm

Jay

So…. do ya’ think Georgia will start requiring drug testing of attorneys before they can appear in court?

Or psych exams?

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2012
3:22 pm

You mean, old Newt is loosing? Wahhhhhhhh. Mr. Mormon Underpants must of bought off a whole bunch of people.

But at least we got the Illegal Kenyan Usurper off of the GA ballot.

larry

January 26th, 2012
3:22 pm

I cant believe we are even discussing this.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
3:24 pm

Man, some people are just nucking futs. Seriously. I’ve always been in the camp that if there was any merit to the idea that he wasn’t born in America, Hilary would have found it out and used it against him. Since he survived the primaries without her doing so, I’ve been convinced that these people are crazy for a while.

Paul – I’m surprised she is coming back to Georgia. Last time she was here, she was fined $20,000 for something, can’t remember what exactly, but I strongly suspect it was because the judge thought she was bat crap crazy.

Robert Lee

January 26th, 2012
3:24 pm

The funny thing is that even if he is not allowed on the ballet in Georgia, he’s going to win another 4 years. Gotta love it!

saywhat?

January 26th, 2012
3:24 pm

“Jay

So…. do ya’ think Georgia will start requiring drug testing of attorneys before they can appear in court?

Or psych exams?”

Apparently they already do. If you pass, you aren’t allowed to appear in court. It explains today’s farce.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
3:24 pm

Paul,

Make them pee in a cup and call it freedom.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
3:25 pm

larry – There is still Mississippi to take that onus off of us.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:27 pm

Scott – “We need answers because the controversy isn’t going away and it’s gotten very serious.”

Here Scott, I’m sure they will welcome you with open arms and would appreciate you bringing your concerns to them:

FBI Atlanta
2635 Century Parkway N.E., Suite 400
Atlanta, GA 30345
Phone: (404) 679-9000
Fax: (404) 679-6289

Dena

January 26th, 2012
3:27 pm

irRational, funny thing – some Clinton supporters, back during the Dem Primaries, dug up old articles that claimed the same thing birthers are claiming now (the articles were from 2005, if I recall …)

Clinton’s campaign did their looksie and squashed the rumors internally. It never came up as an issue for them.

Jefferson

January 26th, 2012
3:28 pm

If I was the president there would be some IRS audit going on, not to mention federal funding slowed for GA. Good thing I’m not the president.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
3:29 pm

larry

January 26th, 2012
3:22 pm
“I cant believe we are even discussing this.”

Funniest post of the day award. In the great scheme of things the whole birther thing is just one big waste of time. But it is good for comedy.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
3:29 pm

Dena – That was kinda my point. If there had of been anything to it, Hilary would have used it to destroy him. I have no doubt in my mind of that.

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
3:29 pm

Is Scott’s last name Taitz.

Robert Lee

January 26th, 2012
3:30 pm

Scott 3:15
The Democrats need to put an end to this and force the President to release his records proving once and for all he’s elegible.Quit playing games and stonewalling.

Its already been done but the wackos keep bringing it up as they’ve got nothing else to grab onto. It is kind sad though that he’s been Prez for 3 years and still has to deal with this kind of idiocy.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:30 pm

(ir)Rational – ” If there had of been anything to it, Hilary would have used it to destroy him.”

Her and the entire GOP machine.

Jefferson

January 26th, 2012
3:31 pm

Fire with fire, screw with those who screw with you.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
3:32 pm

“The funny thing is that even if he is not allowed on the ballet in Georgia, he’s going to win another 4 years. Gotta love it!”

Only if you love high unemployment, high gas prices, crushing debt for our children and grandchildren to pay off, and slow to moderate at best economic growth.

Common Sense

January 26th, 2012
3:32 pm

The intelligence level of the elected officials and the appointed judges doesn’t add up to one. This is like hanging your dirty underwear out for all to see. What does it say when the best you can hope for is for your home state to look dimwitted? That would be an upgrade to the appearances we have presented ourselves to the world as of today. Idiots!

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:33 pm

Hey Scott, in case you think that the FBI are part of the cover up, here’s the contact for the CIA. Just tell them your story, and I’m sure thet’ll jump all over it.

Contact Information

By Web form:
Use our Web form to submit questions and comments online.

By postal mail:
Central Intelligence Agency
Office of Public Affairs
Washington, D.C. 20505

By phone:
(703) 482-0623
Open during normal business hours.

By fax:
(703) 482-1739

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
3:33 pm

Butch – True, but I don’t believe he would have ever made it to Iowa if there had of been anything to it. She would have come to him and shown him the evidence she had, and he would have disappeared back into obscurity.

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
3:34 pm

Nah Keep – I’ve only done a hundred or so Defaults in my time. Inquire as to whether the matter is in delicto or ex contractu – then that will determine whether your case lasts 45 seconds [if that] or six minutes.

Georgia Birther

January 26th, 2012
3:34 pm

We have no trouble keeping up with our birth certificates. The wife and I have all of our important documents in storage at our mom’s house.

getalife

January 26th, 2012
3:34 pm

Tar and feather birthers and put it on You Tube.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
3:34 pm

Robert Lee — “The Democrats need to put an end to this and force the President to release his records proving once and for all he’s elegible.Quit playing games and stonewalling.”

The State of Hawaii already validated his birth certificate. Under the Constitution, the State of Georgia is now obliged to consider it valid as well.

If anyone’s playing games, it’s the birthers.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
3:35 pm

(ir),

Though historically almost impossible to top, I really am starting to think that Georgia has “bested” Mississippi in the lunacy factor.

If for no other reason, than that there are so many more who live here.

Granted, at least we have Atlanta to offset the dipstick factor somewhat, but obviously it’s not nearly enough!

This state is a certifiable insane asylum. Hell, it took 92 years to finally begin the last stages of their little mini-Prohibition here. And mark my words, 92 years from now, there will still be places in this state where you can’t even buy a six pack of beer on Sunday.

And this stunt by the absurd Georgia birthers is just more icing on the cake…

JayT

January 26th, 2012
3:36 pm

It’s the birthers/truthers against the cognitive challenged libs/ Communists. The Communists know the truth about Obama. The libs are too stupid to know the truth and are dupes for the Commies to do their dirty work.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
3:36 pm

getalife — “Tar and feather birthers and put it on You Tube.”

They got a pepper bar! :D

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/ad_report_card/2004/02/the_creatures_from_the_sandwich_shop.html

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
3:36 pm

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

“We have no trouble keeping up with our birth certificates. The wife and I have all of our important documents in storage at our mom’s house.”

Okay AND what is your point?

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

Thulsa Doom – “Only if you love high unemployment, high gas prices, crushing debt for our children and grandchildren to pay off, and slow to moderate at best economic growth.

Hmmm…
High Unemployment – Retired, so no worries there.
HIgh Gas Prices – I live in NYC and keep my Prius in storage
Crushing debt for our children and grandchildren to pay off – Don’t have either, not my problem people chose to breed
Slow to moderate economic growth – No worries there.

Guess if I voted I’d have to vote for Obama.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

Tommy: then that will determine whether your case lasts 45 seconds [if that] or six minutes

And Tommy conceded the point, albeit reluctantly

old1

January 26th, 2012
3:37 pm

Azz deep in Obots here! Either this is a setup and your masters own Malihi and he some how throws this case out or this is the beginning of the end to this three year farce. How can you not understand what John Jay told George Washington? Obama is even a British Subject just the person John Jay wanted to be sure never became President! Remember we had a little war with those guys in the 1700s and they wanted the colonies back. Do you Obots worship Communism this deeply? Or, do you just hate America? What is your blind motivation?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
3:38 pm

Can I just making shyte up and then refuse to accept any facts that refute my made up assertions, like these birthers do?

In 1966, while at Stanford and secretly working as a security guard, Mitt Romney was known to fool around with goats.

In 1979, while at Bain & Co, Mitt Romney hired latino transexual hookers to snuff cigarettes out on his nipples.

Newt wasn’t born in PA. He was actually born in Canada when his teenage mother went there to have a late term abortion and accidentally went into labor.

Rick Santorum’s parents are actually brother and sister as is the custom in W. Virginia.

Rick Santorum’s sweater vest are made in Vietnamese sweatshops out of virgin human hair.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
3:38 pm

JayT McCarthy,

Excellent post.

St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia

January 26th, 2012
3:38 pm

The Teabagger came from Georgia, he was looking for a vote to steal.
He was in a bind ‘cos he was way behind & he was willin’ to make a deal
When he came ‘cross dis blackman runn’n the country & it made him hot
And the Teabagger fell out of his hoveround and said:
“Nearer, let me tell you what:
“I guess you didn’t know it, but I’m a TRUE citizen unlike you.
“And if you’d care to take a dare, I’ll make a bet with you.
“Now you show me yur birf certifikut, boy, but give the ‘merkan his due:
I bet a turd o Beck gold against your soul, ‘cos I think I’m better’n you
The boy said: “My name’s Barack and it might be a sin,
But I’ll take your bet, ur gonna regret, ‘cos I’m the best that’s ever been

Barry you fire up your law and play your birf certifikutt hard.
‘Cos hells broke loose in Georgia and those fat whiteys deal the cards.
And if you win you get this Ron Paul turd made of gold.
But if you lose, the Teabagger steals your vooootes….

needs more banjo, but you get the idear

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:38 pm

JayT – ” The libs are too stupid to know the truth and are dupes for the Commies to do their dirty work.”

Commie? Who let you out of 1953?

Robert Lee

January 26th, 2012
3:39 pm

Thulsa, I’ll take that anyday over sending soldiers into pointless wars, squealing on CIA agents because I did not like what their husband said, unfunded bribes to seniors for prescription drugs, complete and utter lack of leadership during national disasters, no bid contracts for billions to defense contractors, but to top it all off, failure to track down and bring to justice the man behind the 9/11 attacks because he wanted to send all the soldiers to Iraq to protect the oil fields so that the oil companies can continue making recond profits never before seen in the history of capitalism.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
3:40 pm

“Can I just making ”

That would, of course, be “make”. I’m not really trying to channel one of the Jersey Real Housewives.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
3:40 pm

old1, how many McCarthy pictures do you have hanging in your abode?

Damn, how many of you stuck in the 1950s boys are there????

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
3:41 pm

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
3:43 pm

Dupes for commies?

JayT

You haff found us out.

But we haff ways of making you disappear.

Ve vill be vatching you.

(O of O alert code 125-yy-magenta)

Minions to your stations.

Jay

January 26th, 2012
3:43 pm

The American id, on parade.

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:43 pm

jewcowboy – “In 1979, while at Bain & Co, Mitt Romney hired latino transexual hookers to snuff cigarettes out on his nipples.”

I thought you were going to make stuff up? :)

Jay

January 26th, 2012
3:43 pm

Sorry I can’t jump in, still wrestling with my Sunday AJC column.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
3:44 pm

“Damn, how many of you stuck in the 1950s boys are there????”

Its a lot of them….stuck in the 50’s and 60’s. Guess what ya’ll, this aint the 50’s or 60’s and America aint NEVER going back to then!!!! A PROGRESSIVE AMERICA

Robert Lee

January 26th, 2012
3:44 pm

Joe, I forgot the quotes, that first paragraph was what I was refuting……I’ll work on my puntuation for next time

Robert Lee

January 26th, 2012
3:45 pm

Jewcowboy and St Simons…I almost blew Diet coke out my nose at jewcowboy’s post and then actually did when i read St Simons. dang, I got to go change my pants

getalife

January 26th, 2012
3:46 pm

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:46 pm

“Damn, how many of you stuck in the 1950s boys are there????”

Maybe someone needs to explain to them that when they watch MASH, it’s only a t.v. show and that it’s been in syndication since the mid 70’s.

Disgusted

January 26th, 2012
3:48 pm

“We have no trouble keeping up with our birth certificates. The wife and I have all of our important documents in storage at our mom’s house.”

Okay AND what is your point?

Uh, they have the same mom, Joe Cool. It’s a joke. Brother and sister married to each other. Get it? Geez, some of you birthers are really slow.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

January 26th, 2012
3:48 pm

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
3:49 pm

Butch Cassidy,

“I thought you were going to make stuff up”

You have to mix some truth in with the lies to make the lies seem plausible.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
3:49 pm

AmVet – Well, in sheer lunacy, I think we’ll have to wait to see if that bill stating that life begins at conception passes or not before we become the clear winner (since they rejected it). However, on every other level, I think we win simply because of Atlanta. If you took out Atlanta, I say we slide lower on the scale because they have casinos.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

January 26th, 2012
3:50 pm

Obama’s staff owes nearly a million bucks in unpaid back taxes?? How can that be???

http://news.investors.com/Article/599002/201201260818/obama-white-house-staff-back-taxes.htm

sam

January 26th, 2012
3:54 pm

this whole episode makes Georgia look ridiculous…and we dont need any more help with that

Nohopeinobama

January 26th, 2012
3:55 pm

The judge called plaintiffs to chambers prior to hearing and stated a default judgement will be issued. Plaintiffs asked for their day in court to put the information they have on record. It will be recommended that Obama’s name is removed from Georgia ballots. Obama will need to sue Georgia and and the Secretary of State to be placed on the ballot. There is no appeal process to a higher court. It goes from OSAH to SOS

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
3:56 pm

Butch Cassidy,

I had no idea you were one of them heartless conservatives.

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
3:56 pm

lol – almost 600 posts by liberals punked by Orly Tiatz.

Just the mention of Orly Tiatz or Palin or Newt is enough to drive a liberal into a frothing, gibbering mess!

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
3:59 pm

Thulsa Doom – “Butch Cassidy,

I had no idea you were one of them heartless conservatives.”

No, just a selfish prick. Not my fault that I fit the conservative mold. :)

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
3:59 pm

betty, at the risk of riffing off of Aretha Franklin, who’s punking who?

St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia

January 26th, 2012
4:00 pm

what a birther belieeeves he sees
the wise man has the powah – to reason away
what seeeems – to be
is always bettah than nothing
and nothing at alll, keeps sending him
somewheah back in their long-ago…

pass the doobie, brother

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:01 pm

WOODSTOCK MIKE@3:50

Everyone on that list that doesn’t have a payment plan with the IRS should be fired immediately.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:02 pm

“because he wanted to send all the soldiers to Iraq to protect the oil fields so that the oil companies can continue making recond profits never before seen in the history of capitalism.”

Robert Lee,

I don’t have time to rebut all of your nonsense. That would take too long so I’ll just tackle once. News flash Robert. OPEC sets the price for oil- not U.S. oil companies. A second news flash Robert. How much free or cheap oil are our oil companies getting from Iraq since you are asserting we went there for oil and of course the beneficiaries are U.S. oil companies. Please provide a link showing all that free or reduced oil U.S. oil companies are profiteering off of in Iraq.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:03 pm

Butch Cassidy, Nice one. Even I have to laugh aloud at that.

reasonable

January 26th, 2012
4:03 pm

Enough already. Of course there is an appeal process to a higher court (either to the Fulton County Superior Court or the U.S. District Court) and, in fact, in Georgia, Georgia Supreme Court case law makes it plain that the Secretary of State does not have the power to remove an individual from the ballot. That power is reserved to the parties. Also, if there was a default judgment entered before the hearing in chambers, there would be serious questions about judicial misconduct prior to presentation of some evidence to back up claims. Since hearings in chambers are confidential, I would be interested in real actual factual sources for such information.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:03 pm

Moonbat Betty — “lol – almost 600 posts by liberals punked by Orly Tiatz. Just the mention of Orly Tiatz or Palin or Newt is enough to drive a liberal into a frothing, gibbering mess!”

What’s funnier is that there are MORE shrieking birfer posts than that (~800 now) over on Jim Galloway’s blog today. Looks like despite the claims of the GOP establishment that they were no longer concerned about this issue, nobody bothered to communicate that message to Nitwitticus of Borg and the rest of the GOP Collective. (laughing) :D

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
4:04 pm

moonbat betty

Inclement weather headed our way this evening.

Might be a good idea for you to watch out for a wayward Kansas house brought this way by a tornado. It wouldn’t bode well for you if that house was to drop upon you.

Just suggestin’.

sam

January 26th, 2012
4:05 pm

wasnt Romney’s father born in mexico? will he be removed from georgia ballot?

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
4:05 pm

Nohopeinobama

when pigs fly, son, when pigs fly.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:06 pm

Doom — “OPEC sets the price for oil- not U.S. oil companies.”

No. OPEC sets the price for crude (as well as capacity/quota limits) sold by OPEC member nations. And it is widely known that some OPEC member nations routinely violate those price and quota limits.

In any event, OPEC prices are not binding on non-OPEC member nations or corporations.

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:06 pm

ha ha Kamchak:

Newt on you!

Boo!

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
4:06 pm

“because he wanted to send all the soldiers to Iraq to protect the oil fields so that the oil companies can continue making recond profits never before seen in the history of capitalism.”

Doomy: please see my 12:38. I think you’ll find it interesting — especially if you read the linked article.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:06 pm

Moonbat Betty,

I didn’t even think about that but yep. It looks like Orly Tiatz is playing Jay and his minions like a fiddle. Orly feeding them raw meat from his hand he is. Got them all lathered up and frothing at the mouth he do.

Libs! Ya’ll done been played, punked, used and abused.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:08 pm

sam – Are you dense? It makes no difference where your father was born, only where you were born. Sheesh.

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:08 pm

TD, yeah, Jay and a hundred old white guys drove down there for the big event. ha ha!

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
4:09 pm

Not to worry about betty. I think the rain will get her long before the house does.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
4:09 pm

The war in Iraq was largely about the United States protected the reserve currency status of the dollar. Saddam Hussein was selling oil in other currencies than the U.S. dollar.

The same is true of our “humanitarian” takeover of Libya.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:09 pm

Kam @ 4:04 – Dam son, that was cold. Fricken hilarious though.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
4:09 pm

Steve,

“Everyone on that list that doesn’t have a payment plan with the IRS should be fired immediately.”

How about these folks?

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-officials-past-due-1183242.html

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
4:10 pm

TD, yeah, Jay and a hundred old white guys drove down there for the big event. ha ha!

I think they came via power-walker.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:11 pm

jewcowboy – If you owe the government money but purport to be a government servant, then you deserve to be fired immediately if you haven’t made arrangements to pay them what you owe. My personal opinion.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:13 pm

jewcowboy@4:09 “How about these folks?”

Same for those folks with the same exception, if they contacted the party the money they owe the money to and have worked out a payment plan.

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:15 pm

“I think they came via power-walker.”

Tax Payer, that’s not very nice to say of Jay…

Perhaps they wanted a chance to motor boat Orly Tiatz.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:16 pm

Doom — “Libs! Ya’ll done been played, punked, used and abused.”

Not even. The conservanuts over on Jim Galloway’s blog just about have themselves convinced that the judge rendered summary judgment in favor of Orly Taitz. Plus, they’re crowing about how Obama won’t be able to get any electoral votes out of Georgia now.

As if would have been able to get any electoral votes from GA anyhow. (laughing) :D

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:16 pm

Joe Mama,

Good grief sir. What the hell did you think I was talking about? Refined oil? Its kind of a given that I’m talking about crude. As for OPEC nations routinely cheating on their quotas I don’t think that’s news to anyone. Nor that Nigerians are probably still the worst offenders.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:16 pm

What a mess! I meant to say:

“Same for those folks with the same exception, if they contacted the party they owe the money to and have worked out a payment plan.”

Comments 101 – don’t type while you are on the phone! :)

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

Orly Tiatz, Newts and Palins!

OH MY!

Boris Badnoff

January 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

All of this is simply a ruse to cover up the Big Story of the Day: The World’s Leading Soft Drink Manufacturer is going to use Racist Bears in the Super Bowl. Yes. Not Black Bears. Not even Brown Bears. But Lily White Polar Bears. They aren’t even American Bears (Alaska doesn’t count). Even more insidious these racist bears are the symbol of the Global Warming kerfuffle. What is a Polar Bear to you? A cute, cuddly, symbol of places where black folks don’t live. What are you to a Polar Bear: Lunch. Boycott the Super Bowl until Black Bears, Brown Bears, and, in honor of The Messiah, Panda Bears are used in commercials. Moreover, Polar Bears are carnivorous. They don’t eat veggies. So this is racism, lookism, and meatism. Warning to all of you: I don’t brake for Polar Bears.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

Joe Mama,

Who in the hell is Jim Galloway?

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:17 pm

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:18 pm

Doom — “Who in the hell is Jim Galloway?”

He’s an AJC blogger, as you’d know if you did much reading, Doomie. :D

saywhat?

January 26th, 2012
4:19 pm

I would love for the “honorable” judge who decided to hear this case instead of dimiss it out of hand actually charge Obama with contempt of court. I dare him. I triple dog dare him.

Anyway, I hope the judge and our fearless secretary of state enjoyed the great big GFY they got from the Commander in Chief.

Michael

January 26th, 2012
4:19 pm

When you have that many idiots in one room at the same time it seems to me that you have the makings of a reality show.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

Afternoon friends, birthers, birchers, how everyone doing?

Little pop quiz question for you all:

How many times in his SOTU address did Obama use the word “poverty”?

Pop quiz answers down below. Now don’t cheat.

(Answ: zero)

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

Soothsayer,

Interesting article you posted. I enjoyed reading it. Thanks. I believe there is could be lot of truth in that article. Also the 2nd underlying theme is something I copied and posted below. The idea that our govt doesn’t mind running the country into the ground in terms of debt. We would watch the dollar crash and then just repay the old debt with cheaper, devalued dollars. That’s probably what concerns and ticks off our bankers the Chinese.

“That may not be a bad thing for the United States. The country’s gargantuan debts can never be repaid as long as the dollar maintains anything close to its current valuation. Given the state of the country, all that’s really left supporting the value in the dollar is its global reserve currency status. If that goes and the dollar slides, maybe the US will be able to repay its debts and start fresh. That new start would come without the privileges and ingrained subsidies to which Americans are so accustomed, but it’s amazing that the petrodollar system has lasted this long. It was only a matter of time before something would break it down”

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:21 pm

Galloway’s has over 800 comments.

Looks like maybe 2 birthers over there against 500 liberals. (pointing and giggling) :)

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:25 pm

Joe Mama,

Don’tcha know Doomy don’t read no fringe right, neocon, neanderthal, knuckle dragging, lying,teaba$gin, hate the poor, 1%er,anti-union,anti- civil liberties, neo-nazi, hate filled racist conservative media?

reasonable

January 26th, 2012
4:25 pm

On the issue of crude oil and OPEC setting the price. Their ability to set prices eroded during the 1990s due the emergence of the world oil market and oil’s position as a fungible commodity traded and retraded as futures. OPEC can try to control output but you get a better indication of world oil prices through the daily listings of the benchmarks for WTC (West Texas Crude) and the Brent indicator (based on North Sea oil). There is third one based in the middle east but the days of OPEC meeting and determining prices for world oil has ended. The global market, as it does in most things ,sets the prices traders are willing to pay through trades on the market..

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:26 pm

M. Betty — “Galloway’s has over 800 comments. Looks like maybe 2 birthers over there against 500 liberals. (pointing and giggling)”

I read several pages of the comments, and I’d say the numbers are closer to even. The individual birthers don’t seem to have a lot of staying power, though; they’re mostly just single-post drive-bys. The liberal posters are sticking with it and standing their ground.

We progressive guys have more stamina, Betty. Keep that in mind, won’t you? (giggle) :D

pogo

January 26th, 2012
4:27 pm

Why is the Military conducting manuevers in large American cities such as LA, Miami and Boston? Why exactly is that?

And Kyle did a severe smackdown on a frequenter of this blog yesterday. Actually, he b!+ch slapped he/she. One clue as to who it was; they usually very, very short posts that contain the letters “c, o, and n”. You know, the most predictable person on this blog.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:27 pm

Doom — “Don’tcha know Doomy don’t read no fringe right, neocon, neanderthal, knuckle dragging, lying,teaba$gin, hate the poor, 1%er,anti-union,anti- civil liberties, neo-nazi, hate filled racist conservative media?”

Well, he’s a blogger in the AJC. So I figgered Galloway would be moonbatty enough for ya. ;)

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:29 pm

pogo — “Why is the Military conducting manuevers in large American cities such as LA, Miami and Boston? Why exactly is that?”

Could be a MOUT or anti-terror exercise. Do you have a link to a news account of the exercise, please?

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:29 pm

jewcowboy,

What is your position on Government employee’s that don’t pay their taxes? :)

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:31 pm

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:08 pm
TD, yeah, Jay and a hundred old white guys drove down there for the big event. ha ha!

Probably just Jay and 100 other old elitist white liberals come to do a 60s style radical protest over these shenanigans. You’ll know these retreads because they all show up in limousines provided by Michael Moore and Al Gore.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:31 pm

pogo,

Is it the poster Kyle calls “getaclue”? :)

getalife

January 26th, 2012
4:31 pm

pogo,

He told me to get a life :)

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:32 pm

“We progressive guys have more stamina, Betty. Keep that in mind, won’t you? (giggle) ”

Yes, ya’ll do Joe.

Is that guy still renting a house next door to Palin so he can “write a book” about her?.

You’re not posting from Alaska are you? :)

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
4:32 pm

Hello friends, ready for question two of our pop quiz?

How many times in the SOTU address did the obviously socialist Barack Obama mention the Occupy Wall Street movement?

(Answ: zero)

Did you cheat?

BADA BING

January 26th, 2012
4:33 pm

What does the crowd in the Courthose look like during deportation hearings?

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
4:33 pm

Hey, I meant to ask. Did the 4 old guys that launched the terrorist plot get to attend? I’d hate for Orly to come to Georgia and not have all of her supporters there. :)

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:33 pm

lots of smilin’ going on in here today! :)

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:35 pm

Welcome,

Is OWS still around? Never hear anything about them.

YOUR party SUCKS! But MINE is GRRRRRREAT! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 26th, 2012
4:38 pm

Robert Lee
January 26th, 2012
3:39 pm

Robert, let’s take a look at what you posted

Thulsa, I’ll take that anyday over sending soldiers into pointless wars – I agree with you
squealing on CIA agents – so I’m sure you are equally poutraged about the dem aide that was just arrested for reveiling CIA secrets

unfunded bribes to seniors for prescription drugs – And the bribes for AHCA are ok?

complete and utter lack of leadership during national disasters – Like the midwest tornados or the oil spill, or the massive floods in the midwest.

no bid contracts for billions to defense contractors – that are STILL being awarded under THIS admin

but to top it all off, failure to track down and bring to justice the man behind the 9/11 attacks because he wanted to send all the soldiers to Iraq to protect the oil fields so that the oil companies can continue making recond profits never before seen in the history of capitalism – Like sending the carrier groups in to protect the shipping channels in the Straits of Hormuz(sp) to ensure the FLOW OF OIL?

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:39 pm

So, completely off topic, but just want to point out – this guy has a massive set of, well you know.

http://www.20min.ch/videotv/?channel_id=2&video_id=216466

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:39 pm

Oh, completely safe for work.

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
4:40 pm

“Is OWS still around? Never hear anything about them.”

Of course they are – they are the 99% ~ 297,000,000 of them.

Rabbit

January 26th, 2012
4:40 pm

Saywhat?
I doubt the civil hearing officer has contempt powers at all and I suspect the officer regrets not quashing the subpoena. The Motion to quash, which I have read, is complete and clearly shows why the lunatic fringe should fail.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:41 pm

Steve-USA,

All those 20 somethings OWS protesters? They’re either in jail or at home at their daddy’s mansion reading their little Mao red books. Or perhaps they got tired of reading their mao book, the communist manifesto and such and decided to just get stoned.

Cosby

January 26th, 2012
4:42 pm

Yawn…guess it is a non busy news day

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
4:42 pm

Here’s a little news tidbit you wont see Scout linking to:

A few nights ago, Jacob Burris, the campaign manager for Arkansas Democratic Congressional candidate Ken Aden, came home to find the family cat dead in front of his house, its skull crushed, its eyes hanging out of their sockets, with the word “LIBERAL” scrawled on its body. Mr. Burris’ four children were with him when he made the grisly discovery.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/media-violent-rhetoric_b_1225552.html

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
4:43 pm

“Soothsayer,

Interesting article you posted. I enjoyed reading it. Thanks. — Doomy”

Praise Jay-suss-ah! They’s actual signs of intelligent life on this here blog.

Doomy: Even though we have our differences your Sooth respect level just went off the scale. Thanks for reading. Something there’s too little of in this pablumized, pre-digested, get-from-the-talking-heads, world we live in.

josef

January 26th, 2012
4:44 pm

Looks like a good time well spent today! May be costing the taxpayers money, but looks like they’re getting a bang for the bucks.

So, what else is on the angst plate for a Thursday…who’s having a cat fight and about what…?

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:44 pm

Moonbat – Yeah right, funny one.

Thulsa – I kind of figured their devotion would change with the temps. They should have Occupied Miami Beach or San Diego if they had thought things through. :)

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:46 pm

I dost wonder if libs will ever make the fine distinction that while Buffets secretary pays a higher tax rate than Buffet that Buffet actually pays millions more in taxes than her. I think a lot of them are confused to the point of believing that she pays more taxes than Buffet does. That wouldn’t surprise me at all.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
4:46 pm

And Kyle did a severe smackdown on a frequenter of this blog yesterday. Actually, he b!+ch slapped he/she.

Really?

I can’t find any evidence at all that Kyle directed any comment to anyone yesterday.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
4:47 pm

Steve – USA,

“What is your position on Government employee’s that don’t pay their taxes?”

The same as any other person that doesn’t pay their taxes. An employer is an employer. What is the difference between an archives technician for the Dept. of the Interior vs. an archives technician for AT&T?

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:47 pm

josef,

Just don’t let Mr. Taitz punk you. Don’t let him.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
4:48 pm

In a speech pandering to Florida’s aerospace community ahead of the state’s primary, GOP contender Newt Gingrich made a bold pledge to establish a permanent U.S. base on the moon “by the end of my second term.”

Smaller government? Paid for by? And the arrogance of predicting a second term already..

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:48 pm

M. Betty — “Is that guy still renting a house next door to Palin so he can “write a book” about her?”

Don’t know. Is Murdoch still hacking people’s voice mail? :D

“You’re not posting from Alaska are you?”

I’ve only set foot in Alaska once, Betty, and I didn’t even leave the airport. I should have tried the reindeer sausage on a bun at the snack bar, but I was a little queasy from turbulence and decided against it.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:49 pm

Thulsa – I can see where your confusion comes from, cause she ain’t much to look at, but Taitz is a woman.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
4:49 pm

Steve – USA,

“Is OWS still around? Never hear anything about them.”

How about the Tea Party peeps? Opps…they are all called Republicans now.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:50 pm

JHM – You are definitely missing out if you didn’t try that. Mmmm mmmm good.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:50 pm

M. Betty — “lots of smilin’ going on in here today!”

Well, I think it’s kinda pleasant. Fortunately there’s aren’t any eff-you smileys; we’d be seeing those every day. :eek:

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:50 pm

Soothsayer,

I’ve read several of your links and all of them with an open mind. Some of them I just don’t find credible. Some of them make some credible points but the entirety of the article does not convince me, and some of them like this one I find quite outstanding.

Paulo977

January 26th, 2012
4:51 pm

To h*** with eye color anyway I like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qdmPKdd_Xc

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
4:52 pm

“Thulsa – I can see where your confusion comes from, cause she ain’t much to look at, but Taitz is a woman.”

ir(Rational), Shows you how much I really care about this topic- not much and a waste of time.

josef

January 26th, 2012
4:52 pm

THULSA

Who’s Mr. Taitz? Is he here?

Good fight

Why wouldn’t Newt want a base on the moon? Just goin’ back to his home turf….

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
4:52 pm

Thulsa Doom,

“They’re either in jail or at home at their daddy’s mansion reading their little Mao red books. ”

Or helping a church to avoid foreclosure.
“Five days later, thanks largely to a relentless grass roots campaign by Occupy activists, Johnson’s church was saved. BB&T, which had granted Higher Ground a substantial loan in 2007, agreed to sell the property back to the church at a reasonable price.”

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/occupy-atlanta-gains-traction-1312584.html

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:53 pm

Doom — “All those 20 somethings OWS protesters? They’re either in jail or at home at their daddy’s mansion reading their little Mao red books. Or perhaps they got tired of reading their mao book, the communist manifesto and such and decided to just get stoned.”

FWIW, I own copies of both (it’s actually called “Quotations of Chairman Mao” — ‘Little Red Book’ is the colloquial name for it) that I obtained when I was still voting on *your* side of the aisle. I figured it was worthwhile to know my enemy.

And I haven’t partaken of recreational pharmaceuticals once since I became a dirty unwashed Democrat. I had to be a cleanshaven, upstanding Republican in order to get high. :D

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
4:53 pm

Steve – USA :
Is OWS still around? Never hear anything about them.

I don’t know.

Things appear to be in abeyance.

But in the long run, OWS is the tip of the iceberg. With vast complexes of factories in Chinese cities where workers live in dormitories and work 12 hr shifts for $17 dollars a day so that western corporations like Apple can clear huge profits and sit on the cash here in the states, will gradually destroy the middle class as we know it here. And both parties are corrupt and compromised.

So the mayors got hot under the collar last October. Well that was just the tip. They haven’t seen anything yet.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:53 pm

“How about the Tea Party peeps?”

Jay says they are trying to get the Ethics bill passed in Georgia. I personally could care less where the tea party is.

Keep swinging though!

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:54 pm

KUTGF — “In a speech pandering to Florida’s aerospace community ahead of the state’s primary, GOP contender Newt Gingrich made a bold pledge to establish a permanent U.S. base on the moon “by the end of my second term.”

MARS, B*TCH*Z (laughing) :D

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
4:55 pm

josef,

“who’s having a cat fight and about what…?”

http://youtu.be/ELzjQ8F_2gE

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:55 pm

Thulsa – I only know because Mrs. (ir)Rational showed me a video of her the other night. Which we watched and had a good laugh about.

Doggone/GA

January 26th, 2012
4:55 pm

“You’re not posting from Alaska are you?”

Palin lives in Arizona now

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:55 pm

“What is the difference between an archives technician for the Dept. of the Interior vs. an archives technician for AT&T?”

Pretty easy. One is funded by tax revenue and one isn’t and the person collecting a paycheck based on tax revenue hasn’t paid their taxes.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:56 pm

JHM – How much money do you think we could save if we permanently sent all politicians to that colony? Hmmm…

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:57 pm

(ir)Rational — “JHM – You are definitely missing out if you didn’t try that. Mmmm mmmm good.”

I was on my way to Japan at the time, and I definitely had some good eats there. But I do kinda wish I had tried the reindeer. I like checking out different cultures, enjoying their food and their art and that kind of thing. Don’t know when or if I’ll ever get another chance to sample reindeer.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
4:58 pm

Steve – USA,

“One is funded by tax revenue and one isn’t and the person collecting a paycheck based on tax revenue hasn’t paid their taxes.”

Sorry, you might want to rethink that.

“Over the past three years, AT&T received $1.3 billion in funds to deploy phone lines to rural areas.”
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2010/07/att_verizon_get_most_federal_a.html

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
4:58 pm

Think I will go watch “The Five”, That Eric Bolling is so stupid that it is entertaining, plus they have some hot woman. See ya!

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
4:59 pm

(ir)Rational — “JHM – How much money do you think we could save if we permanently sent all politicians to that colony? Hmmm…”

How much would that be in food stamps and subsidized transit tokens? :D

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
4:59 pm

JHM – It’s good. My dad brought some back, along with some moose when he was doing some work in Alaska. And if you stopped in Alaska on your way to Japan, I would say you got the short end of the stick. Somehow my dad’s company always manages to have at least a 24 hour layover in Honolulu when they go to Japan, Guam or Korea.

pogo

January 26th, 2012
4:59 pm

Obama preaches the gospel of more taxes as a way to cure our ills yet Federal Workers under his very nose are proven tax evaders. Yes, it is the Mooney Times but the facts are real. Re-search them yourself on other outlets. I did.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/25/tax-cheats-on-the-federal-rolls/

Don’t think this one is going to go un-noticed in the upcoming election. It is going to be an interesting year.

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
4:59 pm

(ir), that 4;39 was so badass that I had to watch it twice.

Steve, you forgot the right wing meme about,” Does anybody even know what the OWS protesters are protesting?”.

LOL…

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
5:00 pm

Eh, never mind, I have this feeling that they could somehow end up screwing us from there too. Possibly worse, cause we couldn’t get there as easily.

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
5:00 pm

Welcome – Adam already posted that link, but no one was allowed (according to Adam) to dismiss is as Mick would say… “The way you describe it every protester was up to no good debauchery, when in fact it was a sordid few”

Adam believes right wing hate speech as caused “hundreds” of such incidents

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
5:00 pm

Ooh, the Moonie Times cited as a reference yet again.

More cool beans!

moonbat betty

January 26th, 2012
5:01 pm

JHM: ” Well, I think it’s kinda pleasant. Fortunately there’s aren’t any eff-you smileys; we’d be seeing those every day. ”

Yeah, why can’t they have smileys shooting a bird or smileys with a hole in their head? :cry:

Butch Cassidy

January 26th, 2012
5:01 pm

Good lord, am I the only one who hears the theme from Deliverance playing when viewing the clip from the hearing today?

josef

January 26th, 2012
5:02 pm

jewcowboy

Does look like a couple of our regulars in drag, eh? :-)

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
5:02 pm

AmVet – It was pretty badass. I told my friend in aerospace engineering that he should make me one of those. But I’m just kidding myself, I would only want one so I could pretend to be that badass.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
5:03 pm

josef,

“Does look like a couple of our regulars in drag, eh?”

:lol:

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
5:04 pm

“Or helping a church to avoid foreclosure.”

jewcowboy,

That’s a good thing. I guess they’ve only got another 5 or 10 million homes/churches to go.

md

January 26th, 2012
5:04 pm

josef

January 26th, 2012
5:05 pm

BUTCH

“Good lord, am I the only one who hears the theme from Deliverance playing when viewing the clip from the hearing today?”

Could be.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
5:06 pm

Good lord, am I the only one who hears the theme from Deliverance playing when viewing the clip from the hearing today?

Probably not.

Recon 2533 1811

January 26th, 2012
5:07 pm

“I think a lot of them are confused to the point of believing that she pays more taxes than Buffet does.”

Doom, it’s estimated based on the rate she pays that Buffet’s secretary earns somewhere between 200k to 500k. Not exactly typical secretary income much less the face of a struggling to make ends meet working woman.

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
5:07 pm

Thulsa Doom,

“That’s a good thing. I guess they’ve only got another 5 or 10 million homes/churches to go.”

Yes it is. Now imagine what they could do if banks would work the owners in trouble to work out a deal rather than to move in and foreclose.

Orange12

January 26th, 2012
5:07 pm

Gee Jay, you look like an older white American too.

pogo

January 26th, 2012
5:08 pm

So our government’s position is to smooth over any “problems” that have occurred as a result of Egypts current fundamentalist leaning government’s raid on the headquarters of human rights watchdog groups headquarters in that country. And the are not permitting Americans to leave and we are defending this? Who in the hell’s side are we on? Obama has definitely got his act together.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/26/washington-power-brokers-defend-egypt-after-raids-on-us-offices/

Mr_B

January 26th, 2012
5:08 pm

I dost wonder if libs will ever make the fine distinction that while Buffets secretary pays a higher tax rate than Buffet that Buffet actually pays millions more in taxes than her.

First: The distinction is crystal clear. Nobody doubts that Buffet probaly pays a hundred times more in absolute dollars. He just misses the money about a hundred times less.

Second: He pays more taxs than “she.” The English teacher in me couldn’t resist. :)

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
5:08 pm

(ir)Rational — “JHM – It’s good. My dad brought some back, along with some moose when he was doing some work in Alaska.”

My wife’s from the West Coast, and she says I’d like moose and elk. I’ve had elk jerky, but never an elk steak or roast or anything like that. I’m totally down for game meats just about any time.

“And if you stopped in Alaska on your way to Japan, I would say you got the short end of the stick. Somehow my dad’s company always manages to have at least a 24 hour layover in Honolulu when they go to Japan, Guam or Korea.”

Maybe I never told you, but I was *stationed* in Hawaii for four years. ;)

We stopped in Alaska on our way to Japan *from* Honolulu; we were told that the headwinds were hellish if we tried to go directly there. So we labored up to Anchorage, refueled and waited a couple of hours so we would arrive after ops hours were on. Then we flew to Japan and refueled AGAIN (Misawa AFB) and finished the trip. I think they were right about the winds being a bear, because we flew directly back, at an angle to the winds, and it was pretty doggone turbulent most of the way home. Not the worst I’ve ever been in, but pretty bad considering how long it lasted.

Interesting fact — on the way back, we were on a Flying Tiger charter 747. Flying Tiger had recently been bought by FedEx, so FedEx had painted a small logo on the tail — I guess this was preparatory to repainting the entire plane. Long story short, I got FedExed from Japan to Hawaii. :D

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
5:09 pm

(ir), it made me wonder who was the first person to even try to confirm that the technology worked. I’m not saying the initial guy jumped off some two thousand foot face like that the guy in the vid did, but still!

Somebody had to get up to a fairly decent height to try it.

Yoiks!

And I thought me skiing double black diamonds back in the day was extreme! (Obviously, I am OLD school!)

josef

January 26th, 2012
5:09 pm

Delieverance theme music…uh, sounds like subconscious longings from the repressed impulse of the, well, you know “those people.” :-)

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
5:09 pm

Recon 2533 1811,

“Not exactly typical secretary income”

And the Executive Assistant to Buffett or someone in his position is not exactly your typical secretary ;)

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
5:09 pm

ir(Irational),

I’ll bet she’s quite a character. You kinda have to be nut to bring a nuisance suit like this. Was it a youtube video or something we can access on the web?

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
5:10 pm

josef,

Squeal like a piggy.

Joe Hussein Mama

January 26th, 2012
5:11 pm

Ah, crap. Somebody broke something in the system. We just lost a process server.

Gotta go, looks like a late night.

Everyone play nice, be well and drive safely.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
5:11 pm

Delieverance theme music…uh, sounds like subconscious longings from the repressed impulse of the, well, you know “those people.”

And that sounded like “a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.”

jewcowboy

January 26th, 2012
5:12 pm

Thulsa Doom,

“I’ll bet she’s quite a character.”

The kind that you move out of state, change your cell phone number and switch professions after you break up with her.

josef

January 26th, 2012
5:14 pm

Joe, irRational.
Unmentionable lived in Fairbanks as a child, keeps telling me how much I’d like it there…yeah, sure, not in this lifetime…he can have his childhood memories of such things as moose hunts, betting on when the ice is going to break up on the river…give me the subtropics…end of January and 70 degrees ABOVE zero…I like that mo better…

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
5:14 pm

JHM – I feel like I knew you were stationed there for a while. My granddad was back in the day (the day being the 50s as my aunt was born there before it was a state). He got out of the Corps about a week after his unit was deployed to Cuba.

AmVet – Yeah, I’m not the type to want to test that kind of thing out. I’ll be more than happy to set you up with it, but I have more brains than that.

Thulsa – Not sure if it was youtube or not, but it was interviews from MSNBC or CNN or something like that. Her professor showed them to the class in an effort to teach them the meaning of frivolous lawsuits (law school).

That’s it for me today. Y’all have a great evening.

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
5:14 pm

Mr_B, niiice.

My second post today questioned the dearth of common sense here today!

To wit, birthers and birther apologists, it’s enough to make a person split a gut laughing so hard…

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
5:15 pm

Redneck Convert ought to be finished with his beer run by now. I’m so worried about him. I hope he’s all right. I cain’t believe he ain’t checked in by now.

josef

January 26th, 2012
5:15 pm

K’CHAK

I figured you’d be up for that one…native Georgia boy that you are! :-)

sam

January 26th, 2012
5:16 pm

irrational, as i understood it this latest claim is based on the fact that obama is not a ‘natural born citizen’ because his father was born in kenya

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
5:17 pm

“Now imagine what they could do if banks would work the owners in trouble to work out a deal rather than to move in and foreclose.”

jewcowboy,

I’m with you on that. But some people just walk away from their homes once they realize they owe more than its worth. And the other reality is that others bought homes that they never really could afford to begin with and got teaser interest rates to temporarily afford something they couldn’t really afford if it were done as a conventional loan.

I’m all for helping the people that can afford their house if they would have been able to afford it as a conventional loan to begin with. But I’m not in favor of one group of taxpayers and or homeowners subsidizing other people who bought a house that is not in line with their income to begin with. I dunno. Its a complicated issue and certainly not something we can solve here today.

St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia

January 26th, 2012
5:18 pm

the Clerk of Court promised to put out the “good” spittoons when Barry shows up; so they’ve got that going for them, which is nice…

did you notice if they did that, mr B

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
5:18 pm

Bruno

January 26th, 2012
5:20 pm

pogo

January 26th, 2012
5:21 pm

And this from the AP via the AJC.
http://www.ajc.com/business/report-taxpayers-still-owed-1317741.html
I guess I could call the AJC the “Liberal Ledger” Kamchak, and not be lying.

TARP debti(taxpayer funded) is being paid off with more TARP money (taxpayer money). And 133 Bil will probably never be paid off. I have a feeling that is the tip of the iceburg. We will never know how much of a bath working Americans took in this fiasco. Notice I said “working Americans” which excludes about 90% of the regulars here.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
5:21 pm

pogo, whatever will you do when it’s Romney in charge and these things happen in far-away places?

Calm down, and look elsewhere than FOX for some background on the practice of hassling NGOs in countries like Egypt, which is an unfortunate but long established practice.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/dec/30/egypt-raids-ngos-beleaguered-regime-light

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
5:21 pm

“The kind that you move out of state, change your cell phone number and switch professions after you break up with her.”

Jewcowboy,

Ya’ll libruls are coming up with some funny ones today. I’ve even had a few aimed at my expense that I couldn’t help but laugh at.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
5:22 pm

“at least 23 funds and partnerships listed in the couple’s 2010 tax returns did not show up or were not listed in the same fashion on Romney’s most recent financial disclosure, including 11 based in low-tax foreign countries such as Bermuda, the Cayman Islands and Luxembourg.”

Holy shiite Batman!

St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia

January 26th, 2012
5:22 pm

if President Obama is denied a place on the Georgia Presidential ballot
that means the Georgia electoral votes will not be certified…, increasing
President Obama’s percentage in the national electoral vote.
hey, a con-spear-ceh within a conspiraceh

md

January 26th, 2012
5:23 pm

“PRACTICAL CONSIDERATIONS The number of people who fall under the Buffett Rule is quite small, only about 60,000 people. And the amount of revenue that would be generated over the next 10 years from raising their taxes is equally small — just $13 billion over the next decade, if people like private equity, venture capital and hedge fund managers, who receive the bulk of their income from investments, were taxed at the ordinary income tax rate instead of the capital gains rate of 15 percent.

But the president’s plan also has several unintended consequences for people who make far less than $1 million a year. Interest on municipal bonds, for instance, is now tax-free. Under the president’s proposal, only taxpayers who pay an income tax rate of 28 percent or less would continue to get the tax exemption.

Limiting the deduction would surely raise the cost of borrowing for municipalities, a cost that would presumably be passed on to city and state taxpayers. It might also limit the number of people interested in municipal bonds. ”

An awful lot of animosity and division being created for 13 billion dollars……..a mere rounding error to the misfits……..

St Simons- island off the coast of New Somalia

January 26th, 2012
5:25 pm

Newt is roundly against any Buffet rule –

(rimshot)

josef

January 26th, 2012
5:27 pm

St Simon’s

Be careful with that “good spittoon” one…any idea what one’s worth? When Granny was laying out who’d get what when she was gone, there was a feud and a half broke out among her heirs over the spittoon…it was one of the few things to not be taken by the invading Mongol Horde during the
Occupation…sat in an honored spot in Granddaddy’s study…you want to contemplate cross-cultural, consider a discussion of the Taldmudic interpretation of the law pouring over the ancient texts and the following centuries of interpretation puntuated by spits into the near sacred vessel… :-)

md

January 26th, 2012
5:28 pm

“And I thought me skiing double black diamonds back in the day was extreme! (Obviously, I am OLD school!)”

What’s skiing?? Yep, you must be old.

Bud Wiser

January 26th, 2012
5:28 pm

Taxpayers still owed $133B from bailout

WASHINGTON — Companies that were bailed out during the financial crisis still owe U.S. taxpayers nearly $133 billion. Treasury’s plans to recoup that money have been slowed by the volatile stock market and weakness among smaller banks….

Among the largest bailed-out companies, American International Group Inc. still owes taxpayers around $50 billion, General Motors Co. owes about $25 billion and Ally Financial Inc. about $12 billion.

The government has sold its investments in four of the companies that received the most aid: Bank of America Corp., Citigroup Inc., Chrysler Group LLC and Chrysler Financial, the automaker’s old lending arm.

We have the only campaign issue needed to vote out the current sap. When Obamacare gets struck down by SCOTUS later this year, the repugs will have enough ammo to destroy the Democrat Party as we currently know it.

Once Obama is gone, the birth issue will be resolved, because the country could not currently stand the chaos, both political and racial, it would generate in an election year.

The embarrassment, both political and legal, once it has been decided that an illegal held the highest elective office in the land, will assure the complete meltdown of the dimwittocrats, once and forever.

Your days of playing the race card, the wealth envy card, the class warfare card, one and all, will cease to be a factor after November.

Until the media stooges and their mindles idiot drones regurgitate it all over themselves in public yet again. You will be the laughing stock of the entire civilized world, and I know its hard not to believe you could be even more past what you are currently.

“D” will be the new Scarlet Letter”.

Paul

January 26th, 2012
5:31 pm

md

I still can’t figure how conservatives continue to trivialize $13 billion…. $30 billion…… a few million for NPR and they go nuts….. $13 billion in tax breaks for people making millions and billions a year and it’s “only.”

Just doesn’t seem consistent.

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
5:31 pm

Re, Mitt’s returns, who in their right mind doesn’t think that many (most?) of these super-rich fat cats haven’t cooked the books? Or at a minimum, used creative accounting? Even with the enormous welfare they receive, it is what they do. And they have armies of lawyers and accountants who do it well.

Reminds me of this classic scene in Casablanca

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

And look at Bruno!

Playing some tasty Todd.

And one of his “weird” songs, no less. (By his own admission.)

Here’s another. And given much of the discussions lately, apropos…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20cfbT0lktw

Thomas

January 26th, 2012
5:31 pm

Not to defend the uber wealthy but it is somewhat strange to hear that capital gains (realized) tax should be 30% or more while capital losses (realized) is limited to 3k a year.

Carried interest “loophole” should be split to compensation (high rate+ other withholding such as FUTA, FICA, etc.) and capital (lower rate).

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
5:31 pm

“Doom, it’s estimated based on the rate she pays that Buffet’s secretary earns somewhere between 200k to 500k”

Recon,

That would put her squarely in the 1%. This could end up backfiring in a big sort of way. Especially if the presumptive Repub nominee proffers that she should release her tax returns since she is being used as a political pawn.

Paul

January 26th, 2012
5:33 pm

Bud Wiser

You do know who instituted TARP, don’t you?

Mr_B

January 26th, 2012
5:34 pm

josef:

“Deliverance” was the greatest libel ever perpetrated on the people of Appaalachia.

I feel about James Dickey the way you feel about carpetbaggers.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2012
5:34 pm

Redneck Convert ought to be finished with his beer run by now. I’m so worried about him. I hope he’s all right. I cain’t believe he ain’t checked in by now.

Well, I defended you today, Sooth. Some guy named Keep was on here claiming he found a picture I could put in my photo album to rival The Picture. I told him the woman never even had her eyes rolled back in her head and had weird legs besides.

So about The Picture again, Sooth? Huh, huh, huh?

Georgia Birther

January 26th, 2012
5:38 pm

im important georgia person. i have trailer and truck. i vote same way evrytime: white powur.
newt will save me from big black people.
i dont believ barama persident because he the black.

md

January 26th, 2012
5:39 pm

“I still can’t figure how conservatives continue to trivialize $13 billion…. $30 billion…… a few million for NPR and they go nuts….. $13 billion in tax breaks for people making millions and billions a year and it’s “only.””

Personally, I don’t see 13 billion being worth tearing the country apart over……..as I said, a rounding error. And the same goes for NPR etc……it’s noise generated for political purposes.

Now, when we get into the bigger numbers that might actually make a difference tot he budget (and yes, lots of little numbers can equal big numbers….but not in today’s political stalemate), then we can have that discourse that actually means something.

Tearing apart the country for the sake of tearing apart the country does none of us any good. Much like mandates……..

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
5:39 pm

I still can’t figure how conservatives continue to trivialize $13 billion…. $30 billion…… a few million for NPR and they go nuts….. $13 billion in tax breaks for people making millions and billions a year and it’s “only.”

It’s revenues vs expenditures. You gotta cut the government budget, and keep cutting it until there’s nothing left to cut.

You do know who instituted TARP, don’t you?

Well, he ain’t president anymore. He left office 3 years ago. :)

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
5:39 pm

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
5:40 pm

And speaking of potential pratfalls, is Willard gonna do what he was challenged to do?

And what his dad did; release his last twelve years of tax returns?

Sure. The “irregularities” would number in the hundreds, if not thousands, I suppose.

And I’m still not sure that I’ve seen his long form birth certificate yet!

I am the Emperor of the Highway
(Where did you ever get that gas sucking pig of a car?)
This time my friend, you are outclassed
(Any real man would drive a stick shift)
For my uncle is the Duke of the State Police
(Cut me off again and I will punch your lights out)
And he will place his Royal Boot upon your Ass
(This is my exit, we shall meet another day)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shPb7uIf3Tg

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
5:40 pm

Poor Mitt. He forgot to mention those funds in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland and… Switzerland. Where have I heard that one mentioned before. Oh. That’s right. That’s another place where the tax cheats like to hide money so they don’t have to pay their taxes. What will Newt do with THAT information during the debates.

josef

January 26th, 2012
5:40 pm

Mr B

I hate Dickey wors’n a truckload of Carpetbaggers…d*mned Scalawag…that book and that movie are a case study in the self-loathing for profit…

Paul

January 26th, 2012
5:42 pm

md

Who was it – Sen Hayakawa? -

“A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you’re talking real money.”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
5:46 pm

TransCanada, the foreign tar sands company behind the proposed Keystone XL pipeline, is facing a potential inquiry into whether it deliberately deceived investors by inflating the job-creation potential of the project. …evidence from TransCanada’s Canadian filings and the State Department that the project would involve fewer than 1000 in-state jobs, and around 6000 total jobs. This evidence is contrasted with TransCanada’s (TRP) repeated public pronouncements that pipeline construction would involve 20,000 American jobs: “Specifically, TRP has asserted that each mile of KXL pipeline constructed in the U.S. would create American jobs at a rate that is 67 times higher than job creation totals given by the company to Canadian officials for the Canadian portion of the pipeline.”

Oh tell us again about the great pipeline and it will save the US.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
5:46 pm

Poor Mitt. He forgot to mention those funds in the Cayman Islands and Switzerland and… Switzerland.

It was good enough for Mittens
It was good enough for Mittens
It was good enough for Mittens
It’s good enough for me.

Gimme that old time financials
Gimme that old time financials
Gimme that old time financials
It’s good enough for me

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
5:47 pm

Keep on Truckin’ Taxpayer! Keep on Truckin’!

md

January 26th, 2012
5:47 pm

“Doom, it’s estimated based on the rate she pays that Buffet’s secretary earns somewhere between 200k to 500k”

It will backfire, no doubt about that……..especially now that we have an idea of what they both make. Considering the uproar about the disparity of CEO pay (OWS??), good ole Warren makes 125 times what his secretary makes……and that is assuming she makes the 500k……heaven help the man if she makes less as the 125 then goes up.

josef

January 26th, 2012
5:48 pm

Enter your comments here

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
5:49 pm

Mitt the money launderer is dead.

Newt and the other two were never alive.

Guess who that leaves?

Olavo de Carvalho

January 26th, 2012
5:50 pm

What do you have against “older white Americans”?

md

January 26th, 2012
5:50 pm

“A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you’re talking real money.”

Don’t think Hayakawa served in this stalemated congress…….it’s more like a billion a year.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
5:50 pm

Paul, I think it was Everett Dirksen.

“A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you’re talking about real money.”

– Everett Dirksen

md

January 26th, 2012
5:53 pm

Give it a minute and it will be TJ…….

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
5:56 pm

josef

If you’re still around, tossed a gem your way @ SE.
:)

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
5:58 pm

“Between two evils, I generally like to pick the one I never tried before.”
–Thomas Jefferson

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
5:59 pm

Give it a minute and it will be TJ…….

I think Everett Dirksen was quoting TJ when he said it. :)

Jay

January 26th, 2012
6:00 pm

Against them, Olavo? At 55, I’m one of ‘em.

Jay

January 26th, 2012
6:01 pm

““Doom, it’s estimated based on the rate she pays that Buffet’s secretary earns somewhere between 200k to 500k”

Estimated by whom, based on what?

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
6:03 pm

Estimated by whom, based on what?

I’m thinking it’s his neighbor’s mule.

Just guessin’.

Mr_B

January 26th, 2012
6:04 pm

“A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you’re talking about real money.”

– Everett Dirksen

Back when you could use the words “Honorable” and “Senator” in the same sentence without breaking up.

josef

January 26th, 2012
6:06 pm

BROSEPHUS

Got it, Thanks…

Jefferson

January 26th, 2012
6:06 pm

The GOP supporters are consistantly wrong.

md

January 26th, 2012
6:08 pm

“Estimated by whom, based on what?”

I believe the figure was found backing into it from paying a rate of 35%…………..unless we are being misled and she isn’t actually in that bracket…….or paying that much.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2012
6:15 pm

Well, I guess Bookman’s going to be ignoring us the rest of the night while he works on his Sunday editorial. I won’t be reading that librul trash. I use my spare time on Sunday to read the Enquirer the Church of Holiness bulletin.

Have a good night everybody. I’m setting up for the redneck free-for-all debate.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
6:17 pm

josef

January 26th, 2012
6:19 pm

BROSEPHUS

Unrelated at SE…check it out…hot times in the old town tonight…

Midori

January 26th, 2012
6:20 pm

I’m thinking it’s his neighbor’s mule.

good one, Kam :lol:

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
6:21 pm

Hiya, Midori! :wink:

getalife

January 26th, 2012
6:22 pm

The cons are deflecting to his secretary.

Weak.

Anyhoo, murdoch was right.

They are in panic mode.

Should be a better debate on CNN,

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
6:23 pm

A single person (based on 2010 tax rates) would have to have taxable income (after deductions) of over $373,650 to be in the 35% federal tax bracket. Their effective tax rate would be somewhat less than that.

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
6:25 pm

md

January 26th, 2012
6:27 pm

“Update: apparently, she makes $60K. So I gather what Buffet is talking about is comparing her federal marginal tax rate, including both sides of the employer tax, to what must be his effective tax rate, since there is no marginal rate of 17.4%. That comparison is beyond bizarre.”

Now it’s only 60k……..how comical…….round and round it goes where it stops nobody knows.

I bet this poor lady is rethinking getting involved in this fiasco……shame on them using her as a pawn.

(And for another update, @60k Warren now makes 1,047 times what she makes……that can’t play well in the media)

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
6:29 pm

I’m looking forward to this debate tonight. I think Willard is going to come out swinging. Ol’ Gnute’s gonna have to come up with some real dirt on Willard (uh oh! Swiss bank accounts).

It’s just too bad that Callister cain’t come on stage and stand beside her Sugar Daddy, er I mean husband, on stage. That way, she could show off them $500,000 diamond earrings.

Anyhow, this debate ought to really show who’s the biggest Dick, er I mean, the best candidate the RepugNOwecan’ts have to offer.

I’m just glad I ain’t got one of them 3d tellyvision sets so’s the shyte don’t come flyin’ in my living room!

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2012
6:35 pm

“The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Florida Republican Primary Voters, taken Wednesday night, shows Romney with 39% support to Gingrich’s 31%. Former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum earns 12%, and Texas Congressman Ron Paul runs last with nine percent (9%).”

Looks like Newt has an uphill climb.

I’m no Mitt supporter so far (but he’s sooo much better than the Marxist we have in the WH now). If he could just show a little anger tonight about the direction this country is taking, like Newt does, he’d do much better.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2012
6:35 pm

I’m just glad I ain’t got one of them 3d tellyvision sets so’s the shyte don’t come flyin’ in my living room!

Well, I got to admit I never thought of that. People watching them in 3D will be ducking and dodging and doing everything but paying attention to the debate.

Paul

January 26th, 2012
6:36 pm

Sooth

All Romney’s team needs to do is scan Drudge. He’s got an article up about “Now Dole Drops Stink on Newt” and several articles about how he viewed Pres Reagan as a loser. All Romney has to do is wait for the inevitable “back when Reagan and I worked together to…” and “…. I’m the only Reagan Republican up here” and then skewer him with his own words.

bman

January 26th, 2012
6:37 pm

i read somewhere that Warren Buffett was not going to leave his kids any $ .. .. is that really true?

josef

January 26th, 2012
6:39 pm

bman

Taking attendance?

bman

January 26th, 2012
6:41 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
6:41 pm

Sinkwich: “I’m no Mitt supporter so far (but he’s sooo much better than the Marxist we have in the WH now”

That’s ILK! Marxist ILK!

C’mon Sinkwich.

Paul

January 26th, 2012
6:41 pm

Evening, Sinkwich

Your posts are beginning to sound…. reasonable! Only one “Marxist” in the whole thing!

:-)

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
6:42 pm

Jan Brewer in 2010 on her requested meeting with Obama, a “very cordial conversation.”

Jan Brewer describing the same meeting in her book, “It wasn’t long before I realized I was hearing the president’s stump speech,” she wrote. “Only I was supposed to listen without talking.”

She called him “patronizing.”

“Then it dawned on me: He’s treating me like the cop he had over for a beer after he badmouthed the Cambridge police, I thought,” Brewer continued. “He thinks he can humor me and then get rid of me.”

josef

January 26th, 2012
6:46 pm

PAUL

No ilk yet…the boy’s slipping… :-)

Midori

January 26th, 2012
6:47 pm

Jan Brewer has to be one of the most IGNORANT women to hold public office:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUPKKbmWMZ8

She would be halfway palatable if she didn’t eerily resemble The Crypt Keeper

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2012
6:47 pm

Thanks, Paul, but just getting wound up.

That’s lib ilk, Welcome etc.

Jack

January 26th, 2012
6:48 pm

55 ain’t old. Trust me.

bman

January 26th, 2012
6:48 pm

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2012
6:48 pm

Midori doesn’t like successful women!

Who knew?

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
6:51 pm

The ole mule is perty smart. Its the 2 billy goats, karl and kurt, that aint too bright.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
6:52 pm

Jan Brewer has to be one of the most IGNORANT women to hold public office TRANSLATES for Sinkwich to: doesn’t like successful women

Someone’s Ilk to Republiconned translator is not set properly…. shouldn’t that be HATES?

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
6:53 pm

F. Sinkwich,

No surprise there.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
6:53 pm

“Go Greyhound — and leave the driving to us.”
–Thomas Jefferson

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
6:54 pm

They CAN’T STOP the “O”-mentum.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
6:55 pm

Someone’s Ilk to Republiconned translator is not set properly…. shouldn’t that be HATES?

Or, “is scared of.”

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
6:56 pm

Jan Brewer is right. Obama needs to toughen up a bit. Too thin skinned. Of course we’ve heard that only about 4 million other times about the man.Must be something to it. Just sayin…

Midori

January 26th, 2012
6:56 pm

F. Sinkwich doesn’t like common sense.

Who else knew?

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
6:57 pm

“What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.”
–Thomas Jefferson

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
6:58 pm

@Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
6:52 pm
Jan Brewer has to be one of the most IGNORANT women to hold public office.
********************************************************************************************

Jan Brewer should think her lucky stars that it was Obama.

There are MILLIONS of us who would have gone GHETTO on her.

The Secret Service would have been picking her FINGER up off the ground.

Midori

January 26th, 2012
6:59 pm

Thomas

January 26th, 2012
7:00 pm

“Bosanek pays a tax rate of 35.8 percent of income, while Buffett pays a rate at 17.4 percent”

That, by definition would put her in the 300k+ TI category. Something or someone is not right-

Nevertheless all a moot point as Sir Newton has promised a robust moon colony where money and tax brackets will be weightless

Ronstradamus

January 26th, 2012
7:02 pm

I love how the socialist media in this country says that only nuts think Obama might not have been born here…….

How many other Presidents have had not one, but two close family members arrested for being illegal aliens?

How many othet Presidents had a team of lawyers on retainer to hide the truth about their past, everything from his highschool yearbook to his college transcript!

WHY did Michelle refer to Kenya as “Obama’s home country”?

It’s actually stupid to not believe Obama is hiding something!

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
7:03 pm

@Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
6:56 pm
Jan Brewer is right. Obama needs to toughen up a bit. Too thin skinned. Of course we’ve heard that only about 4 million other times about the man.Must be something to it. Just sayin…
*****************************************************************

Doomy, Obama is not thin skinned. Ask Osama Bin Laden. Ask the terriosts in Somalia. Ask Quadafy.

ITS CALLED CLASS.

Some of you think class is a room in a school.

Some of you would not know class if it SAT ON YOUR FACE.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
7:04 pm

WHY did Michelle refer to Kenya as “Obama’s home country”?

“Why ask why, drink Bud Dry.”
–Thomas Jefferson

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
7:04 pm

@Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
6:52 pm
Jan Brewer has to be one of the most IGNORANT women to hold public office.
********************************************************************************************
CORRECTION:

Jan Brewer should THANK her lucky stars that it was Obama.

There are MILLIONS of us who would have gone GHETTO on her.

The Secret Service would have been picking her FINGER up off the ground. :)

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
7:06 pm

bman, I read back in 2007 that his kids would get a billion dollars each for their own charitable foundations, but hardly anything for themselves.

He is the antithesis of the pompous, arrogant fat cat and I suspect that is what drives his slobbering, star-struck detractors so wild. You see, he’s not a sleazy, “Hey look at me!”, Reality TV fraud and bombastic womanizer like their big hero Donnie Combover is.

They can’t figure him out. They’ve come up with tons of idiotic speculations and grand conspiracy theories about him, yet they do not know the very first thing about him. Hell, most of them have never even read the very first paragraph about him, his life or his history.

But they damn sure will tell you what he thinks and what his motivations are.

I have family that has lived in Omaha for a long time and the people there, regardless of politics, will give you the straight scoop on that family. They are just “normal” folks and he is a quiet man of morals and a HUGE philanthropist.

This flies in the face of the would-be narcissists and forever neer-do-wells here, who dementedly think they can bask in Trump’s ostentatious and tawdry reflected glow. Or is it glare?

Paul and I have talked at length about this and always chuckle at the fools…

josef

January 26th, 2012
7:07 pm

RONSTRADUMBASS

“How many other Presidents have had not one, but two close family members arrested for being illegal aliens?”

Well, it they got arrested, he must not be doing such a good job of keeping it hush-hush, reckon? Not the best evidence for your argument, Orly.. :-)

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
7:08 pm

@Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
7:04 pm
WHY did Michelle refer to Kenya as “Obama’s home country”?

“Why ask why, drink Bud Dry.”
–Thomas Jefferson
*******************************************************

WHY DO WHITE PEOPLE SAY……..

Ireland is my home land. Or

I am Italian. Or

I am Polish. Or

I am …………….

Everyone has ancestors even Obama.

GIVE US A BREAK

Take a chill pill.

Relax.

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
7:11 pm

Everyone has ancestors even Obama.

GIVE US A BREAK

Take a chill pill.

Relax.

Not my words, sport.

The italicized text is the giveaway.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
7:13 pm

The Republican establishment is a hysteria machine. It has utterly gone off the rails.

It has a propaganda machine that breeds hysteria, and thus hysteria-mongers, but then when those figures threaten to embarrass the movement, it finds its powerless to stop the forces it has unleashed.

It’s insane.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
7:13 pm

Jay

January 26th, 2012
6:01 pm
““Doom, it’s estimated based on the rate she pays that Buffet’s secretary earns somewhere between 200k to 500k”

“Estimated by whom, based on what?’

I dunno. Recon posted that and I was just reprinting what he posted. Executive secretarys to powerful men and CEOs often make a bundle and they themselves often have their own secretary. She’s not the typical secretary type that you think of. I would be shocked if she didn’t make 6 figures and additionally a number of non-pay benefits such as an expense account, 401k, company stock options in Berkshire Hathaway, cadillac health plan, vacation, car allowance, cell allowance, company limo time possibly,life insurance,etc.

I would be very surprised if her total compensation wasn’t 200k. I would also be very surprised if she is not a millionaire assuming she has been working for him for an appreciable amount of time.

Either way Buffet loses on this. She either makes enough to be a 1%er or close to it or if she only makes 100k a year then she is grossly underpaid by a greedy pig of a CEO.

Last the mere fact that Jay and some of the liberals on here doubt that an executive secretary such as this woman wouldn’t make a substantial amount of money such as 250k or more in total compensation shows me just how little they seem to know about the business world and or executives. This aint no run of the mill secretary. She has enormous responsibilites.

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2012
7:13 pm

I quoted a press story about the increase in jobless claims then added this:

All hail Obamacare! Stimulus! Cash for clunkers! Solyndra! EPA regs! Green jobs! Dead Keystone pipeline! Oil drilling moratoriums! GM bailout! Volt! High taxes! $4 gas!

I was put in “moderation.”

Huh?

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
7:13 pm

…socialist media…

Just when I think I have seen all of the idiotic McCarthyisms there are, some new age would-be pinko chaser and birther comes up with a new one.

I swear that some of these demented cons won’t be satisfied until they can get a modern day House UnAmerican Activities Committee cranked up and looking for commie witches everywhere…

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
7:14 pm

@Ronstradamus

January 26th, 2012
7:02 pm
I love how the socialist media in this country says that only nuts think Obama might not have been born here…….

How many other Presidents have had not one, but two close family members arrested for being illegal aliens?

How many othet Presidents had a team of lawyers on retainer to hide the truth about their past, everything from his highschool yearbook to his college transcript!

WHY did Michelle refer to Kenya as “Obama’s home country”?

It’s actually stupid to not believe Obama is hiding something!
************************************************************************************

What is that horrible smell?

Oh, its Ronstradamus with the Stench of Racism, a Putrid Odor of Ignorance and the Foul Air of Lies.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
7:16 pm

The conquest of Iran’s oil riches is the driving force behind America’s military agenda.

The US-led conquest of Iraq – costing over a million lives in a nine-year occupation – is part of Washington’s long-held plans to dominate the globe’s vast energy resources that reside in the Persian Gulf and Central Asian regions. The decade-long war in Afghanistan is another flank in this US bid for hegemony over the fuel for the capitalist world economy. For nearly three decades, the US-led Western capitalist world has been deprived of exploiting Iranian energy wealth. The Islamic Republic has remained defiantly independent of Washington’s control, not just in terms of its vast hydrocarbon riches, but also politically. Iran is no puppet of the West as it was formerly under the despotic Shah Mohammad Rezā Pahlavi.

Tehran has shown itself to be a trenchant critic of Western imperialist meddling in the region and fawning over the criminal Israeli persecution of Palestinians. Another important source of Western animus towards Iran and the deeply held desire for regime change is the loss that the Iranian revolution implies for the lucrative American, British and French weapons industry. When Shah Mohammad Rezā Pahlavi was kicked out in February 1979, so too was a massive market for Western arms dealers. The recent $50 billion arms sales to Saudi Arabia – the “biggest-ever in history” – that had the Pentagon salivating, would be easily replicated in Iran, if a similar client regime could be installed there.

From the Western powers’ point of view, Iran is both an elusive prize and a frustrating obstacle. Bringing Iran back into the orbit of Western capitalist control has the added significance of depriving energy and other geopolitical advantages to rival powers, in particular Russia and China. In a strategic review earlier this month, Washington highlighted China as its pre-eminent global competitor in the coming decades. The militarized agenda towards China was also heralded by US President Barack Obama during his Asia-Pacific tour at the end of 2011. China is heavily dependent on Iranian oil. Some 20 per cent of all Iranian crude oil exports are traded with China. The latter has billions of dollars worth of energy investments in Iran, in particular the natural gas sector, which energy analysts view as the primary fuel in forthcoming decades. Washington’s policy of hostility and regime change towards Iran and furthering its hegemony over this vital region is as much about wresting control from its perceived competitors, Russia and China. That factor takes on added importance as America’s economic power wanes.

Hmmmm . . .

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
7:16 pm

Recon posted that…

I hate the stupid saying, and this is the first and likely the last time I ever use it here, but in this case it works.

There’s your sign!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
7:16 pm

I dunno. Recon posted that and I was just reprinting what he posted.

:lol: :lol: And this is from the poster who derides a link to Huffingtonpost as evidence a statement was made even it if has a videotape link of someone like Newt saying that exact statement. :lol:

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2012
7:17 pm

“Just when I think I have seen all of the idiotic McCarthyisms there are, some new age would-be pinko chaser and birther comes up with a new one.”

To what and whom are you referring?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
7:18 pm

hiding his highschool yearbook?

Why I bet that “team of lawyers” is going to door to door to every former classmate demanding their yearbook copies…… or else! :lol:

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
7:19 pm

“There are MILLIONS of us who would have gone GHETTO on her.”

Yes. Of course. And that lack of discipline and self control has put quite a few people from the ghetto in jail. Somebody “disses” somebody so that person that got “dissed” pulls a gun and shoots that person. Sounds real productive sir.

Geo

January 26th, 2012
7:21 pm

Please November, arrive quickly so that the socks might be placed in the pie holes.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
7:22 pm

keep up,

If you don’t understand just how richly rewarded some executive assistants are then I just can’t help you. You should read more or learn more about the business world.

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2012
7:23 pm

“An Indiana-based energy-storage company, whose subsidiary received a $118.5 million stimulus grant from the Energy Department, filed for bankruptcy Thursday. Ener1 is asking a federal bankruptcy court in New York…”

All hail O’bozo!!

Geo

January 26th, 2012
7:24 pm

Hey – that secretary owns two homes. That ain’t right!

Midori

January 26th, 2012
7:24 pm

hiding his highschool yearbook?

Why I bet that “team of lawyers” is going to door to door to every former classmate demanding their yearbook copies…… or else! :lol:

LOL!!!!

barking frog

January 26th, 2012
7:25 pm

I’m a lawyer -Harvey Levin(TMZ), Keep up the good fight, DebbieDoRight,
Tommy Maddox, etc..

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2012
7:25 pm

GM still owes me $15 billion.

Show me the money!

There's A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta

January 26th, 2012
7:25 pm

@Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
7:19 pm
“There are MILLIONS of us who would have gone GHETTO on her.”

Yes. Of course. And that lack of discipline and self control has put quite a few people from the ghetto in jail. Somebody “disses” somebody so that person that got “dissed” pulls a gun and shoots that person. Sounds real productive sir.
***********************************************************

Where did I mention a gun?

That was just a SLANG.

Meaning she would have gotten a TONGUE LASHING.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
7:26 pm

doomy, you are having comprehension issues….but if you have any evidence that I said anything about her salary other than quoting a FactCheck estimate, please provide a link. You might want to stick with the mules and aspire to reach their level of intelligence. :D

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
7:26 pm

“Are those Bugle Boy jeans you’re wearing?”

–Thomas Jefferson

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
7:27 pm

The Az. guv seems a bit loony to me, but if she wants to get in Obama’s face and stick her bony finger in it, especially on her home turf, what the hell?

I’m pretty sure he has had to deal with much worse than her histrionics.

What is bizarre to me is that this woman said she felt “threatened by him”.

He’s the leader of the f&cking free world and if he wants to, he will do what he did to her – turn around and walk away in mid-sentence.

Not much of a threat, but pretty damn funny…

bman

January 26th, 2012
7:29 pm

Sink .. .. GM won’t make it. However, it does help that they have finally started to change the looks of their autos. Eventually, they will fail. That’s my guess.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
7:29 pm

Stench,

And isn’t it usually the tongue lashings, these dissings, that escalates into someone pulling a gun and shooting someone all because they went “ghetto” on them?

getalife

January 26th, 2012
7:30 pm

“This is your brain and this is your brain on drugs” Thomas Jefferson

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
7:30 pm

So a serious question…is the President the least powerful of the 3 branches policy wise and politically speaking?

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
7:32 pm

Whoop, Whoop, Whoop, Whoop, Whoop, Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk. ~Thomas Jefferson

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
7:32 pm

Hi Sinkwich!

“An Indiana-based energy-storage company, whose subsidiary received a $118.5 million stimulus grant from the Energy Department, filed for bankruptcy Thursday. Ener1 is asking a federal bankruptcy court in New York…”

So, let’s review the logic here.

A system, in this case the government, that funds an organization through an investment grant and that organization fails is obviously on that basis alone irretrievably stained by that failure.

So, given the many thousands of private firms that fail each year after receiving private capital, can we not on that basis judge that capitalism must be the most illegitimate system of all given the cornucopia of failure that it promotes?

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
7:32 pm

I will make your electricity more expensive

I will make your cars more expensive

I will make all things more expensive

I will make natural gas more expensive

I will spend your money on people who don’t need it

I will bail out my union friends

I will give money to lots of people who are my chums. It’s your money and they will never repay it, but why do I care?

And if you have savings, I won’t pay you any interest for your capital

I am our savior president.

Thank ou very much.

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
7:32 pm

Barking Frog – the Angry Red Woman from Mars is one too.

Midori

January 26th, 2012
7:33 pm

Robert Hegyes, Epstein of ‘Welcome Back Kotter’ Fame, Dead at 60 :(

getalife

January 26th, 2012
7:33 pm

Ron Paul fans are chanting end the TSA on CNN.

A rowdy crowd.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
7:34 pm

Iran can be characterized as a geo-strategic pivot. The geo-political equation in Eurasia very much hinges on the structure of Iran’s political alliances. Were Iran to become an ally of the United States, this would seriously hamper or even destabilize Russia and China. This also pertains to Iran’s ethno-cultural, linguistic, economic, religious, and geo-political links to the Caucasus and Central Asia.

Moreover, were the structure of political alliances to shift in favour of the U.S., Iran could also become the greatest conduit for U.S. influence and expansion in the Caucasus and Central Asia. This has to do with the fact that Iran is the gateway to Russia’s soft southern underbelly (or “Near Abroad”) in the Caucasus and Central Asia.

In such a scenario, Russia as an energy corridor would be weakened as Washington would “unlock” Iran’s potential as a primary energy corridor for the Caspian Sea Basin, implying de facto U.S. geopolitical control over Iranian pipeline routes. In this regard, part of Russia’s success as an energy transit route has been due to U.S. efforts to weaken Iran by preventing energy from transiting through Iranian territory.

If Iran were to “change camps” and enter the U.S. sphere of influence, China’s economy and national security would also be held hostage on two counts. Chinese energy security would be threatened directly because Iranian energy reserves would no longer be secure and would be subject to U.S. geo-political interests. Additionally, Central Asia could also re-orient its orbit should Washington open a direct and enforced conduit from the open seas via Iran.

Thus, both Russia and China want a strategic alliance with Iran as a means of screening them from the geo-political encroachment of the United States. “Fortress Eurasia” would be left exposed without Iran. This is why neither Russia nor China could ever accept a war against Iran. Should Washington transform Iran into a client then Russia and China would be under threat.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
7:34 pm

‘Who can rid me of these pesky birthers’

- Thomas Jefferson
-

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
7:34 pm

keep up,

I’m just educating you. Because you often need it of course. No charge either. You’re welcome. The mule is pretty cool but its the 2 K brothers as I call them, the goats Karl and Kurt, that really amuse me.

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
7:35 pm

Erwin,

In order of power – legislative, executive, judicial.

barking frog

January 26th, 2012
7:36 pm

Tommy, I knew I had forgotten one, thanks..should have included
the Prez too although he doesn’t post here he is often a topic..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
7:36 pm

Be ye not as the horse, or as the mule, which have no understanding: whose mouth must be held in with bit and bridle

Thomas Jefferson

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
7:38 pm

Bro – My Ga. river water plan can now be advanced as we know the people of Ga. want freedom from the EPA. Warn the family :-)

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
7:38 pm

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country. ~Thomas Jefferson

Seriously.

And why I detest these demented advocates of our unAmerican corporatocracy.

F. Sinkwich

January 26th, 2012
7:39 pm

“So, given the many thousands of private firms that fail each year after receiving private capital, can we not on that basis judge that capitalism must be the most illegitimate system of all given the cornucopia of failure that it promotes?”

That’s close to being the stupidest post I’ve ever seen on this blog, but there’s so much lib ilk competition that’s it’s hard to judge a winner.

Private investment means just that. O’bozo MADE me invest in that loser company.

I want my money back. Now.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
7:41 pm

AmVet, 7:27,

I don’t think that there is one American with half a brain that does not “feel threatened” by this clown. He threatens everything we hold dear in this country. His narcissism will not allow him to confront those who do not agree with him…. Oh, no. It’s just easier to walk away when you don’t have a friggin’ leg to stand on. What a sorry excuse for a president.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
7:41 pm

‘It’s not the corporations that cause the problems, it is the people who continue to run the corporations that are causing the problems.’

- Anybody with any Common Sense

-

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
7:42 pm

Sinkwich

Deduct it from your taxes

Boris Badnoff

January 26th, 2012
7:43 pm

One would think that A Living God who spent $ 118 million in stimulus money

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/electric-car-firm-got-biden-visit-118m-stimulus-files-bankruptcy

on car batteries could get a better Birth Certificate than the one he got off of e bay. It was suspicious from Day One when it was signed by Jack Lord from Hawaii Five O.

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
7:44 pm

That’s an idea!

josef

January 26th, 2012
7:44 pm

frog

Obama doesn’t post here? Not so sure, myself, I think he’s Bill Orvis White… :-)

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
7:44 pm

Every American should deduct $50 per person in their household for the money illegally given to GM

At minimum

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
7:45 pm

I don’t think that there is one American with half a brain that does not “feel threatened” by this clown

Thankfully the President relies on those with a full brain. :D But Mitt is your guy if you want have a brain. And Newt if you are looking for a brain.

St Simons - we're on Island time

January 26th, 2012
7:45 pm

well, on what blog other than this one could you learn spittoon history..
hold on to that one if you can, josef

I can tell you this much i guess. Mrs. Bos made less than $40k for
most of the 90’s and I didn’t make much more than her. My last work
for BH was in 99. I know as late as 98 she drove a 76 Pontiac.
Pretty, shiny, that 70s off-green. He spoke to me once, asked me
what was for lunch (sandwiches). I heard somebody ask him what
he did one time, and he said “I sit here a lot and look at the phone,
and wait for it to ring.”

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
7:46 pm

“Nuts.”

Anthony McAuliffe

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
7:47 pm

On January 12, 2012, Nikolai Patrushev told Interfax he feared that a major war was imminent and that Tel Aviv was pushing the U.S. to attack Iran. He dismissed the claims that Iran was secretly manufacturing nuclear weapons and said that for years the world had continuously heard that Iran would have an atomic bomb by next week ad nauseum. His comments were followed by a dire warning from Dmitry Rogozin.

On January 13, 2012, Rogozin, who had been appointed deputy prime minister, declared that any attempted military intervention against Iran would be a threat to Russia’s national security. In other words, an attack on Tehran is an attack on Moscow. In 2007, Vladimir Putin essentially mentioned the same thing when he was in Tehran for a Caspian Sea summit, which resulted in George W. Bush Jr. warning that World War III could erupt over Iran. Rogozin’s statement is merely a declaration of what has been the position of Russia all along: should Iran fall, Russia would be in danger.

Iran is a target of U.S. hostility not just for its vast energy reserves and natural resources, but because of major geo-strategic considerations that make it a strategic springboard against Russia and China. The roads to Moscow and Beijing also go through Tehran, just as the road to Tehran goes through Damascus, Baghdad, and Beirut. Nor does the U.S. want to merely control Iranian oil and natural gas for consumption or economic reasons. Washington wants to put a muzzle around China by controlling Chinese energy security and wants Iranian energy exports to be traded in U.S. dollars to insure the continued use of the U.S. dollar in international transactions.

Moreover, Iran has been making agreements with several trade partners, including China and India, whereby business transactions will not be conducted in euros or U.S. dollars. In January 2012, both Russia and Iran replaced the U.S. dollar with their national currencies, respectively the Russian rouble and the Iranian rial, in their bilateral trade. This was an economic and financial blow to the United States.

Ignorant, dumbass Americans. I wonder what Snooki will do tonight?

barking frog

January 26th, 2012
7:49 pm

josef, you may be correct.

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
7:49 pm

Jam – thanks in retro it’s hard not to agree…i’m just amazed how much credit/blame the man in the leather chair gets when it’s really the 400-500 other folks…..another stupid ?…does congress follow the white house in an election yr?…see where I’m goin’ ?

Thomas

January 26th, 2012
7:51 pm

So, given the many thousands of private firms that fail each year after receiving private capital, can we not on that basis judge that capitalism must be the most illegitimate system of all given the cornucopia of failure that it promotes?

Fundamental and distinct difference between the voluntary investment of one’s capital into an institution in pursuit of montary greed and the involuntary investment by a non controllable governmental institution utilizing taxpayer (other people’s) money

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
7:51 pm

Nothing is free but the grace of God

Liberals do not know this though. Poor devils.

josef

January 26th, 2012
7:54 pm

St Simon’s

I didn’t get the spittoon…one of my nephew’s has it. It’s good since he knew Granny and Grandaddy and he appreciates what it is and the history behind it.

bman

Does make you wonder…! If you were President, wouldn’t you want to anonymously blog and find out what people thought about this, that, and the other….and what better place than this one here?

josef

January 26th, 2012
7:55 pm

No Bozo…

So, you know who G-d graces and who H- doesn’t, eh? Do tell….

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
7:56 pm

So a serious question…is the President the least powerful of the 3 branches policy wise and politically speaking?

I’d echo AmVet’s assessment @ 7:35 in the order of power. I think it’s a toss up when it comes to public opinion on power, but public opinion does not always match reality.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
7:56 pm

F. Sinkwich,

Aaaah shucks. Its just another measley 118 million that the govt threw down the toilet. No big deal to the O man in charge.

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
7:56 pm

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
7:57 pm

Josef

I do not.

I just know nothing is free. Excepting his grace.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
7:57 pm

So Bozo wants to see 1M electric cars on US highways by 2015. Chevy Volt sales were pegged at 10K vehicles sold for 2011 with only a little over 6K being sold by GM. GM still owes the American taxpayer a lot of money. Stock of GM was about 26 and change today….. needs to hit 56 to allow it to pay off all of the stimulus money that was poured into that company, including the star of the show, the Chevy Volt. With sales like this, how long will it take for the stock to reach 56? Ask Bozo, the new CEO of Government Motors. He should stick to community organizing.

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
7:58 pm

Cat, it’s one giant clusterf&ck, but gawd I do love it!

Because I still say that in the entire history of our species this “grand experiment” is the most righteous of them all.

Blue-eyed Philly soul meets 80s power pop…

Please forgive all the disturbance I’m creating
But you gotta lot to learn
if you think that I’m not waiting for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZURwQ_wME

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
7:59 pm

So many of you don’t realize that the “Hollywood Set” edifice of wealth that we “enjoy” in the United States is due to the “reserve currency” (i.e., all Worldwide oil transactions must be conducted in U.S. dollars) status that the U.S. dollar currently (if not shakily) enjoys.

It that “reserve currency” status is destroyed, the U.S. dollar will essentially become worthless overnight. Our “wealth” will vaporize like fog on a summer’s morning.

For this reason, any country who dares to sell oil for anything other than U.S. dollars is subject to “humanitarian” takeover by Washington: Iraq, Libya.

Wake up, America! Read. Turn off the television set. Read!

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
8:00 pm

Kayaker

I am helping you.

I am providing more expensive cars, with tax subsidies and a bailout.

You should be thankful. Where’s your respect? Bow down to me or I will ignore you.

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
8:01 pm

BroLite – I get it, but i’m thinking most are focused on the wrong seat(s)….we love our Presidents but in real life he really just signs-off…unless we’re talking team 6 stuff….

thanks for the h/t btw

Tommy Maddox

January 26th, 2012
8:02 pm

When do we bail out Cessna or Beechcraft? I’d like a part of a general aviation aircraft.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
8:02 pm

WOW – the Nutster’s press secretary admits they didn’t have anybody to refute the fact that the Nutster asked for an open marriage (like he stated at the last CNN debate).

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.

:-)

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
8:03 pm

Sooth

I am making the currency worthless

But the next guy will have to deal with that

md

January 26th, 2012
8:03 pm

“In order of power – legislative, executive, judicial.”

I’d have to disagree…….with judicial at 1, leg at 2 and exec at 3, with 1 and 2 being fairly even. Those two can take turns striking down each others orders, while the exec can only wish he could do the same.

josef

January 26th, 2012
8:04 pm

No Bozo

Air is free…and if you are of the theological school thereof, so is will…

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
8:05 pm

Bro – The Nutster’s favorite song and dance. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG75FJkjr8

getalife

January 26th, 2012
8:06 pm

“nothing is free”

There is your sign.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
8:07 pm

Chevy Volt retails at just over 32K. It will not hold more than 4 passengers, it is really just a oversized golf cart masquerading as a compact automobile. It catches fire when the lithium batteries are not drained at the bottom of a charge. By raising the standards on miles/gallon from cars sold in this country by all companies, foreign or domestic, to about 35mpg, we could reduce our dependence on foreign oil by about half.

md

January 26th, 2012
8:07 pm

“It that “reserve currency” status is destroyed, the U.S. dollar will essentially become worthless overnight. Our “wealth” will vaporize like fog on a summer’s morning.”

Hence the call from Russia and China for a new reserve currency. They know the game.

Some of us do read………….

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
8:07 pm

Jay:

The birther thing is a dead issue.

However, what constitutes a “natural born citizen” is only going to keep coming up again and again as our diversity evolves.

Do you not support a Supreme Court case (not to be ruled on until AFTER 2012) that would clarify this for the 2016 election? Seems reasonable to me.

They BOTH suck

January 26th, 2012
8:08 pm

Common

That might be his fav song; however his theme song is about to be this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
8:09 pm

K71 – you’re almost half right

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
8:09 pm

The Nutster described himself as being FROM Ga. The lying SOB

md

January 26th, 2012
8:09 pm

“we love our Presidents but in real life he really just signs-off…unless we’re talking team 6 stuff….”

Hmmm….may have to revise my order……I guess he can have the other two knocked off……..

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
8:10 pm

EC

Sad thing is, I think that people really know this deep down. I think that it’s too hard for some to confront reality head on and they choose to live off of emotion instead. As the perfect example, how can an elected body have an approval rate so low that would make the Marianas Trench look like a drainage ditch, yet the re-election success rate hovers between 80-90%? We, as a country, can not fault the disconnect between DC and the rest of the country until we address the disconnect between ourselves and reality.

On the h/t, I always give credit where credit is due. I can use that tag line to be a complete ass in far fewer words now. :)

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
8:10 pm

Josef

Will is not completely free

And neither is air. If you want it clean.

Marvin B

January 26th, 2012
8:10 pm

The truth shall set you free. If you all just read ( if some of you Progressives know how ) the original fake Obama BC , you will find among other flaws BHOII ’s place of alleged birth. Obama must have became a time traveler to be born in the Kapioilani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital..

The name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital. That name would have been on an original BC of 1961. According to the web site the name didn’t change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn’t created until 1978… GOTCHA !!!!

Guess what ? This means that he was NOT born in Hawaii, period.

Wait,, there’s more for you Progressive to learn about Barry Soetoro, AKA, Barrack Obama.fake BC.
Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in ” Kenya , East Africa “. This wouldn’t seem like anything
of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1964,
three whole years after Obama’s birth, and 28 years after his father’s
birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did
not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1964, it was known as the
“British East Africa Protectorate”.

Don’t leave just yet…you Progressives need to see more of the truth. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’
when the term wasn’t even used at that time?

So, Obama, strike 3 ..YOU’RE OUT !!!

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
8:10 pm

josef:

This is pathetic that this principal was put through this! Why anyone would ever teach under these conditions is beyond me.

I was “assaulted” by my teachers many times and deservedly so …….. especially the shop teacher with his customized paddle.

Lord help us ………………

Headline: “Battery charges dismissed against Chattahoochee High principal’

http://www.ajc.com/news/battery-charges-dismissed-against-1318889.html

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
8:11 pm

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
8:12 pm

They Both – or after Calista leaves the loser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJG75FJkjr8

md

January 26th, 2012
8:12 pm

Hybrids seem like the better alternative for awhile……the infrastructure is already in place. I’d sure hate to be 100 miles from nowhere needing a battery or very long extension cord………….

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
8:14 pm

too true Bro….too true

gotta run….chow time…so it’s ciao time

No bozo

January 26th, 2012
8:14 pm

Md

I will be investing in very long extension cord companies soon

Good use of your taxpayer dollars

First company is called Plugryndra, Inc.

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
8:16 pm

NoCom @ 8:05

:lol: :lol:

md

The prez has veto power, so he can play that game too. He only loses if he’s opposed by that 2/3 vote. In the current state of politics, I’d say the prez is pretty safe there. The judicial loses out because they can only rule on existing legislation and can’t create new ones whereas the prez can do an EO to get some things done. That’s kinda why I agree with AmVet’s order. The legislature has the edge over the executive because of the 2/3 override, the executive has the edge over the judicial since they can’t do anything with an EO if it meets constitutional muster, and the judicial is last because they can only rule on existing law and not draft new laws.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
8:17 pm

Gosh! How do we make our rabid anti-immigration stance sound warm and fuzzy here in Florida?

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
8:17 pm

Hey everyone, it could be worse !!!

Headline: “Iran arrests journalists, to execute bloggers”

“Iranian courts have sentenced two bloggers to death for “spreading corruption”

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/iran-arrests-journalists-execute-bloggers/341821

THERE YOU GO ………. ONE MAN’S FREEDOM IS ANOTHER MAN’S CORRUPTION !

md

January 26th, 2012
8:17 pm

“how can an elected body have an approval rate so low that would make the Marianas Trench look like a drainage ditch, yet the re-election success rate hovers between 80-90%? ”

Because it is always the other guys misfit that sucks………

They BOTH suck

January 26th, 2012
8:18 pm

Marvin

Keep trying buddy……… Keep up the good work

heck…… you might even get some traction by the 32nd of this month

getalife

January 26th, 2012
8:18 pm

willard is tearing the newt a new one.

Bud Wiser

January 26th, 2012
8:20 pm

“When his garage burned down last week, Storm Connors defended his beloved hybrid cars charging inside and said they couldn’t have caused the fire. But the environmentally-friendly credentials of his Chevy Volt – and the green driver’s carbon footprint – took another hit today when its battery caught fire again, even though the car was unplugged.

Now General Motors is sending a team of investigators to examine the electric car at Mr Connors’s home in Barkhamsted, Connecticut.

Little wonder GM is bleeding more taxpayer money, still owing US over $25 BILLION dollars.

Obama Motors, our motto is “You’ll drive this thing till it explodes!” ; or, “The New Chevy Volt – One Hot Car!!!”

md

January 26th, 2012
8:21 pm

“The judicial loses out because they can only rule on existing legislation and can’t create new ones whereas the prez can do an EO to get some things done.”

And how many laws are on the books? And where does Congress get it’s authority? Same for the Pres…….the all powerful supremes can interpret that veto power to be disenfranchising………..or the EO to be unconstitutional………I think they have the slight upper hand, but Congress can always counter with new legislation……that will be ruled on by the sc……that part is a circle.

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
8:22 pm

Because it is always the other guys misfit that sucks………

If that doesn’t hit the nail square on the head!!! :)

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
8:22 pm

get …i’ll acknowledge you (O’s water carrier) ..this one time…you don’t want to face the “Mittens”

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
8:25 pm

Bro – who’s misfit is the Nutster now? He claims Ga. so he must be ya’ll’s :-)

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
8:25 pm

dinner on the coffee tables…watchin the debate….plate in my lap…too bad it’s not mojito thursday

barking frog

January 26th, 2012
8:27 pm

AmVet is correct about the power structure because
the congress approves spending and once approved
the executive gets to spend the money. The courts do
not get involved unless congress or the executive do
something inappropriate.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
8:33 pm

The shyte’s a’flyin’ now!

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
8:35 pm

frog, and the executive branch with the legislature’s approval appoints judges.

Man, all this teeth gnashing about the costs and problems with electric/hybrid cars.

My first IBM PC cost a small fortune. But it was a Mack Daddy. It had a 20MB hard drive!

And I’m glad you guys weren’t making the decisions about the space program. After those first few rockets blew up, you woulda cashed it in!

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
8:35 pm

md @ 8:21

all valid… One question that begs to be answered is who holds the Supremes’ feet to the fire if they usurp the Constitution?

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
8:37 pm

NoCom

Newt’s not mine!!!! Don’t try to hang that albatross around my neck. :)

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
8:38 pm

scout: The birther thing is a dead issue.

However, what constitutes a “natural born citizen” is only going to keep coming up again and again as our diversity evolves.

Do you not support a Supreme Court case (not to be ruled on until AFTER 2012) that would clarify this for the 2016 election? Seems reasonable to me.

there’s nothing to clarify. If you are born in the US or of US parents overseas, you ARE a natural born citizen.

I think the fuss is because with “diversity” some people are scared that the next few presidents will start to look like a basketball team and not like the rugby team.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
8:40 pm

One question that begs to be answered is who holds the Supremes’ feet to the fire if they usurp the Constitution

Congress has the power to impeach
The Constitution may be amended
And the Supremes have no power to enforce, that is in the Executive.

Midori

January 26th, 2012
8:41 pm

Congrats to Barney Frank and his partner.

They are getting married :)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
8:41 pm

Do you not support a Supreme Court case (not to be ruled on until AFTER 2012) that would clarify this for the 2016 election? Seems reasonable to me.

The Supreme Court, unlike some state supreme courts, do not have the power to interpret a constitutional question without an actual case and actual facts……

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
8:42 pm

Sinkwich: “Private investment means just that. O’bozo MADE me invest in that loser company.”

Then to be consistent you should also whine about the many millions of government dollars that no doubt went to waste when the government poured billions into the computer infrastructure that became the internet in the last century. Yet you don’t mind benefiting from the fruits of all that experimentation now, do you Sinkwich?

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
8:43 pm

However, what constitutes a “natural born citizen” is only going to keep coming up again and again as our diversity evolves.

Wasn’t the first test tube (petri dish) baby born in the late 1970’s? Unless she’s running for president or any subsequent in vitro babies, I would think any child born from a USC parent would be a “natural born citizen” since there are only two basic ways to make a baby, in a lab or by copious copulation.

md

January 26th, 2012
8:44 pm

Do find it a bit interesting that a site dedicated to de-bunking the birth certificate only compounds the situation…………I didn’t think anything of it until the post above, but now I do have a few questions…..and an open to all answers……..I’m just curious as hell now.

http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/yes-there-was-a-kapiolani-maternity-gynecological-hospital-in-1961/

Why is his certificate number higher when he was born a day earlier? And why does one refer to the State as Honolulu, Hawaii while the other says Honolulu, Oahu?

One claim debunked……..2 new ones in it’s place. Quite interesting…….

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
8:45 pm

I’m all for copious copulation….

Grucho Marx

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
8:46 pm

Congress has the power to impeach

Question was meant to be a bit more rhetorical, but yeah I know that. Do you actually, in any dream or state of intoxication, see the GOP bringing any conservative judge (or Dem with a liberal judge) up on articles of impeachment if they violate the Constitution? I could see a fight being made for opposing ideologies, but not for the same ideological thinkers.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
8:49 pm

DDR – We must be on different schedules, since I seldom see you here.

I wish I was around the south for this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg-zwba7l5w&feature=related

bman

January 26th, 2012
8:52 pm

this is the WORST debate ever !

josef

January 26th, 2012
8:52 pm

scout

I’m with you on that…but, it goes with the territory,,,a lot of folks carp about the teacher’s professional organizations (we DON’T have unions in GA), but that insurance policy and legal representation in cases such as this is a necessity in this day and age…

getalife

January 26th, 2012
8:53 pm

Another boring debate.

Erwin's cat

January 26th, 2012
8:53 pm

i think Newt and Mitts are in cohorts …is it me ?

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
8:53 pm

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
8:54 pm

hiya Common (loved the Buffet!)

I’m not around much anymore because of 3 things:

(1) Dudley is home for a few more weeks — gotta get my groove back.

(2) Getting out of the house more (when he’s gone) — I was turning into a young very old woman. :)

(3) Got tired of not knowing how to cook, so I’m taking up (you guessed it), yet ANOTHER class!! I just love to learn — besides, i meet a lot of people in class….some good looking ones at that!

josef

January 26th, 2012
8:56 pm

midori

Frank? Hrrrumph…he doesn’t speak well for his people! :-)

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
8:57 pm

A RepugNOwecan’t lunatic colony on the Moon! Now there’s an idea I can get behind!

Midori

January 26th, 2012
8:57 pm

One claim debunked……..2 new ones in it’s place. Quite interesting…….

Snopes addresses it all.

Why not become a one-stop shopper?

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
8:57 pm

Another boring debate

Maybe Newt can pay Juan Williams to show up to stir things up a bit. South Carolina redux.

Midori

January 26th, 2012
8:58 pm

I think it’s cute Josef.

I believe in love.

md

January 26th, 2012
8:59 pm

“Why not become a one-stop shopper?”

I never trust just one site……no matter the source.

Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see…………

bman

January 26th, 2012
9:00 pm

Josef .. ,, Midori is here?

md

January 26th, 2012
9:03 pm

Went to snopes…..nothing about the use of “Hawaii” vs Oahu……..got a link?

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
9:03 pm

Midori:

What does Snopes say about Paterno ?

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
9:04 pm

speaking of love……

I see bman looking for Midori….

How Midori Got her Groove Back.

josef

January 26th, 2012
9:05 pm

bman

She was…

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
9:05 pm

They should say (about Paterno) that he died of shame.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
9:06 pm

The problem is we just cut taxes enough and we didn’t eliminate enough regulations! If we just do away with taxes and regulations everything will be just fine!

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
9:06 pm

Ron Paul on moon exploration:

Yeah I’d like to send some of our politicians up there. [wild crowd applause]

I agree! Let’s start with the Republican house.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
9:07 pm

Here’s to all the candidates I am seeing on CNN.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luKmSLXukaw&feature=related

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
9:08 pm

Oops! didn’t cut taxes enough!

I’m think I’m going to puke.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
9:08 pm

There’s simply no overstating what a bunch of intellectual pygmies are assembled on that GOP debate stage.

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
9:12 pm

I knew I made a mistake by turning to that “debate”. Why is it that nobody ever calls these jackasses out when they contradict themselves? A party that believes that government can not create jobs attack the sitting president because he isn’t doing just that. WTF!!!!

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
9:12 pm

Willard is losing it.

Seriously.

Cornell West - Someone PLEASE "Friend" Me On Facebook!

January 26th, 2012
9:13 pm

Answer: Moon Exploration.

Question: What’s smaller and easier to manage on a budget – Moon Exploration or Newt’s ego?

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
9:17 pm

Wow, Marco Rubio gets plugged by 3 debaters in a row.

Maybe Ron Paul will be a good contrarian and say he’d rather see Marco Rubio hurled into a vat of boiling oil before seeing him appointed to his cabinet.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
9:18 pm

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
9:20 pm

BRO – I loved it when Romney asked the Nutster about his promises at EVERY campaign stop.

I think he has Newt spending in the trillions already while lowering taxes. :-)

Just saying..

January 26th, 2012
9:22 pm

Any evidence yet that adults have been able to keep a straight face?

bman

January 26th, 2012
9:23 pm

haha debbie .. ..

If you’re taking classes for the kitchen, please consider sushi & then share what you learn here :-)

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
9:24 pm

Watching this debate is like watching RepugNOwecan’t reruns of the past 20 years. Nothing’s changed: cut taxes more, cut regulations more.

Someone get my shovel so I can hit them up ’side the head ’cause they just don’t get it!

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
9:26 pm

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
9:27 pm

Try this while Dudley is IN TOWN

:lol: :lol: I’ll try it every chance I get! :wink:

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
9:27 pm

NoCom

I turned the channel after the whole economy stuff. I’d rather have a quadruple root canal than watch that stuff. I was initially interested in seeing what the GOP candidates would offer as a contrast to Obama. Following the campaigns, I’ve seen nothing beyond the usual rhetoric. Our situation is like nothing we’ve seen for a long time. I don’t think that supply side nor kenyesian economics will get things going again. I’m looking for someone who’s capable of thinking outside the soundbite box.

DBCOOPER

January 26th, 2012
9:31 pm

innaugaration day today change

Unemployed Americans 12.0 million 13.1 million up
Unemployment rate 7.9 8.9 up
Gas Price per gl $1.79 $3.39 up
Federal Debt (trillion) $10.6 $15.2 up
Food Stamp recipients (ml) 32 46 up
Americans in Poverty (ml) 39.8 46.2 up
Home Value’s $167.00 $149.00 dwn
Global Competitivness 1 4 dwn

Four more years? I’m not a RACIST but I can read. I know if you don’t support Obama you’re a RACIST. BUT! Come on man!

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
9:31 pm

Do all these guys think the entire voting public is stupid?

Retorical question since the answer is yes.

:-)

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
9:33 pm

bman – I wanna learn how to cook (well). I get tired of always being the one bringing the booze to every dinner/event/brunch. No one EVER oooohhhs and ahhhhs over Jack Daniels or Old Grand Dad.

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
9:35 pm

“English, motherf**ker, do you speak it?”

–Thomas Jefferson

AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.

January 26th, 2012
9:37 pm

Bro, my take on watching the debates?

http://tinyurl.com/77a4m8q

DDR at 8:45, huge grin…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmPMMitJDYg

bman

January 26th, 2012
9:38 pm

debbie .. .. lol

sounds as if you always have the whiskey ingredient around so, try this :-)
I’ve made something similar,…very good!

http://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/whiskey-cheese-fondue

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
9:38 pm

DDR – If you want to learn to cook, start simply. Even the old Betty Crocker cookbooks are a good start.

What does Dudley want most (besides you) and learn to cook his favorites.

Then when he is gone learn to cook what you like best.

But what the hell do I know, I am single and live on the road. :-)

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
9:42 pm

Notice he said “give up the right of return.” What a pile of steaming excrement.

Soothsayer

January 26th, 2012
9:43 pm

I’m thinking Santorum is a certifiable nut case.

AmVet - Like most decent Americans, I'm a Marxist.

January 26th, 2012
9:44 pm

“I’m not a RACIST”

One of the most difficult stages of recovery is the first one: admitting that there is a problem.

Listen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlG6_Ai2dKo

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 26th, 2012
9:45 pm

There’s A Stench of Racism and A Putrid Odor of Ignorance In Atlanta
January 26th, 2012
7:25 pm
The Secret Service would have been picking her FINGER up off the ground.

That was just a SLANG.

Meaning she would have gotten a TONGUE LASHING.
_________________________________________________________________________________

What type of tongue do you use that can SEVER a finger?

Anyone on the left wish to address this OBVIOUS LIE?

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
9:45 pm

Gas Price per gl $1.79 $3.39 up

Oh geeezz, another one. You forgot to praise the anti-capitalist Obama for punching a hole in the capitalism ceiling.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/story/2011-12-31/united-states-export/52298812/1

In a first, gas and other fuels are top U.S. export

Measured in dollars, the nation is on pace this year to ship more gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel than any other single export, according to U.S. Census data going back to 1990. It will also be the first year in more than 60 that America has been a net exporter of these fuels.

[...]

The volume of fuel exports is rising. The U.S. is using less fuel because of a weak economy and more efficient cars and trucks. That allows refiners to sell more fuel to rapidly growing economies in Latin America, for example. In 2011, U.S. refiners exported 117 million gallons per day of gasoline, diesel, jet fuel and other petroleum products, up from 40 million gallons per day a decade earlier.

There’s at least one domestic downside to America’s growing role as a fuel exporter. Experts say the trend helps explain why U.S. motorists are paying more for gasoline. The more fuel that’s sent overseas, the less of a supply cushion there is at home.

However, knowing the rationale level of your posts, I’m pretty sure you’re just waiting to give that praise to the House GOP. Anybody with a brain knows that the president doesn’t control that stuff any more than you or I do.

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
9:47 pm

AmV

Yeah!!! That!!

I’m just waiting for any of those “debates” to have the fast speaking guy read off the fine print and side effects like they do in any other commercial trying to sell you some defectiv sh*t.

Brosephus Lite™ - All the sarcasm, half the words

January 26th, 2012
9:49 pm

dang it!!!! Messed up my slanties. Everything between the link and the last paragraph of my 9:45 comes from the USA Today story. Gotta give credit to source info.

Quote of the Day

January 26th, 2012
9:50 pm

“Granny Godzilla should thank me for making her a somebody. If it wasn’t for me she would still be a Baby Huey filling her Depends” – Jay Bookman

Welcome to the Occupation

January 26th, 2012
9:51 pm

Thanks Common sense, nice clip!

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
9:55 pm

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
9:58 pm

AmVet – LOVE Meatloaf!!! My dad had that cd when I was little. He played ALL THE TIME!

bman – that recipe looked good AND easy enough for me to do it! Thanks.

Common – All Dudley likes to eat is fried foods. He’s no fun. When I’m alone I usually eat salads. I’m learning how to cook because my neice is getting older and i need to show her the correct way to eat, (and not just McDonalds). I’ve never cared about stuff like that before my neice came along but now I’m a “home cooked meals” advocate.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
10:01 pm

DDR – Then home made Mexican dishes are the answer. Lots of flavor and can be made healthy.

I lost 35 lbs cooking that way while on the road.

And goes great with mojitos or margaritas. :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 26th, 2012
10:04 pm

Good night all. :-)

and remember the great theme song for the National champs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ibV3tCDvd8

AmVet - Like most decent Americans, I'm a Marxist.

January 26th, 2012
10:07 pm

Bro, yeah those are great, aren’t they?

In a very hurried and important tone, buried in the middle of myriad possible symptoms and complications, the fast talking guys says something like, “may cause rectal bleeding, rarely resulting in death….”

Huh?

Yeah, that record is special, Debbie. I bought it not long after it came out and had no idea that it was going to go epically big. I just thought it was unique and fun as hell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZLGBXXaM4g

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
10:07 pm

Common – I lOVE Mexican food!! You are soooo smart! I would’ve never thought of that! AND the best part are the margaritas!! You are a true friend to remember that part.

LWms

January 26th, 2012
10:13 pm

YOU MORON “BIRTHERS” IN GEORGIA ARE AN EMBARRASSMENT TO THE REST OF THE COUNTRY !! YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES !! Get a life !

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
10:14 pm

night common — maybe we can meet up again!

SoCoBro: I’m just waiting for any of those “debates” to have the fast speaking guy read off the fine print and side effects like they do in any other commercial trying to sell you some defectiv sh*t.

Oh my……that gives me some ideas:

WARNING: Listening to too much republican rhetoric may give you the following symptons:

Bleeding in the gums, eas and rectum (especially if you have a “wide stance”).

Unusual urge to self destruct in public (ala Newt)

Cravings for unusual foods – like freedom fries

Urgent need to belittle – teachers, unions, scientists, Ivy League colleges, and anyone north of the Mason Dixie line.

If you have an erection (while watching the debates) lasting longer than 4 hours, immediately seek professional help with your nearest psychiatrist.

md

January 26th, 2012
10:18 pm

“If you have an erection (while watching the debates) lasting longer than 4 hours”

I’m still waiting for the media to interview that guy…….that should be interesting.

And then interview his partner to see if she survived…………

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
10:20 pm

I want you – I want you
I need you – I need you
But there ain’t no way I’m ever gonna love you
Don’t be sad – don’t be sad
’cause 2 outta 3 ain’t bad…..

Meatloaf

AmVet - Like most decent Americans, I'm a Marxist.

January 26th, 2012
10:22 pm

BADA BING

January 26th, 2012
10:23 pm

Pat Sajak admits that he has hosted “Wheel of Fortune” while drunk. I’d like to buy a round, Pat.

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
10:24 pm

I’m still waiting for the media to interview that guy…….that should be interesting.

they wouldn’t be able to — he’d have a smile on his face so big he’d look like the joker.

And then interview his partner to see if she survived…………

women are tougher — she’d survive and then expect him to do it again the next night and the next night and……

we women, once we know you can lay pipe like that, are NEVER satisified!

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 26th, 2012
10:25 pm

If you have an erection (while watching the debates) lasting longer than 4 hours, immediately seek professional help with your nearest psychiatrist.

Well, the Good Lord took that problem away from me as the years went by. It’s kinda the opposite of the story about the 98-year-old-man that went to see his Dr. and told the Dr. “I’m getting married to this 26-year-old woman.” The Dr. looked at him real serious and said, “I must tell you, this could be fatal.” The geezer said, “Well, Doc, if she dies, she dies.”

Anyhow, looks like old Newt is about finished in FL. Mr. Mormon Underpants handed Newt his hat tonight. Most of the time Newt looked the way he must of looked when he got socked with alimony. It looks like we ain’t going to have a moon colony to haul beer to.

Anyways, I’ve got to hit the sack and be ready to make my rounds in the a.m. if you drunks are going to be able to swap weird music tomorrow night. Have a good night everybody.

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
10:33 pm

BADA:

My daughter used to call it “Wheel of Furniture” !

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
10:35 pm

More Arab Spring:

“U.S. outrage as Egypt bars Americans from leaving”

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
10:36 pm

P.S.

That should really help tourism there. Looks like the camel ride guys at the Pyramids will have to draw unemployment …………… or do that have that over there ?

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
10:42 pm

Mick

January 26th, 2012
10:42 pm

“Nothing comes between me and my calvins”

-Thomas Jefferson

AmVet - Like most decent Americans, I'm a Marxist.

January 26th, 2012
10:44 pm

BADA, I would be remiss if I didn’t acknowledge your fashion and fitness tips earlier.

Great stuff. Makes me LMAO.

DebbieDoRight

January 26th, 2012
10:46 pm

Good night all! Have a happy friday tomorrow.

0311/1811

January 26th, 2012
10:46 pm

Mick

January 26th, 2012
10:46 pm

Ron paul is the only sane republican on foreign policy and in particular – cuba. What an effin retarded policy of 50 years of failure. All the repubs wanna be the big bad tough guy. Want to get rid of castro and communism? End the embargo and flood their markets with american tourists and money. Cuba would be a prime cruise ship port because it is an unknown entity. Instead, it’s always the same saber rattling and castro continues to live on in abject mockery…

md

January 26th, 2012
10:52 pm

Either way Mick, Castro wins……flood his country with money? And who exactly do you think will be keeping most of it??

Those guys don’t live like the folks they hold down……….

If you happened to notice, Libya fell after the people made their choice…..then the UN came in. Cuba needs to do the same…….or live under tyranny…….their choice.

md

January 26th, 2012
10:53 pm

And Syria is heading down the same road……Assad and his goons will soon be on the UN wanted posters………

Let the people of Cuba rise up and put Castro on those same posters…..

ODD OWL

January 26th, 2012
10:55 pm

If you think Oily taitz is off her rockers, wait until you get a whiff of the Governor of Arizona. The Honorable Fraulien Jan Brewer. She’s faaaar out man. I think many of these Arizonians have sit out in the sun too long drinking unfermented cactus juice. Geronimo’s revenge ???

Mick

January 26th, 2012
11:00 pm

md

The problem is 50 years have gone by, where is the uprising? If we open the market there will be a better chance of collapsing castro from within. The embargo has had the opposite effect of keeping the despots in power and blaming us for their problems….kind of like republicans blaming obama for everything wrong under the sun…

Kamchak

January 26th, 2012
11:14 pm

IT’S CLOBBERIN’ TIME!
–Thomas Jefferson

independent thinker

January 26th, 2012
11:20 pm

Gasbag Newt should have been there to keep up the Georgia image as a traveling circus with unlimited clown acts.

Thulsa Doom

January 26th, 2012
11:26 pm

Someone mention the national champions? The Crimson Tide!

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USinUK

January 27th, 2012
5:48 am

thulsa – zereaux … now, that’s funny …

Mick

January 27th, 2012
6:15 am

usinuk

Top of the afternoon! Tthank god it’s friday and things are good cause I’ll be a workin tomorrow on a saturday…

USinUK

January 27th, 2012
6:19 am

Mick – I hear ya – we have a HUGE happening next weekend, so this weekend and next week are going to be in-flippin-SANE around the office … have worked until midnight the last 2 nights … so tired I feel like i’m levitating …

USinUK

January 27th, 2012
6:33 am

heh – heh – heh

Yes, for the second time this week, Newt showed that his debate skills are massively overrated, particularly his ability to attack an opponent with clear vulnerabilities. And Mitt Romney demonstrated exactly how to go about carving up an overmatched opponent. This time, not even having a noisy audience to appeal to could save the former Speaker. Several times over the course of the debate, Romney hit Newt hard, and Newt sputtered around and couldn’t find an effective response. On immigration, on Freddie Mac and on Romney’s investments, Newt couldn’t find an exchange that worked for him. The final blow was a long (long, long) segment about space, and Newt’s easily-mocked plan for a lunar colony, which Romney effectively dismissed — and called Gingrich out on pandering to the narrow interests of each state they’ve competed in. It’s sometimes hard to read how these things play to voters, but I thought it all combined to be pretty devastating. Intrade agreed: Newt’s chances of winning the nomination according to the bettors there went from about 10% down to around 3% over the course of the debate. Regular readers know I feel that’s still too high.

so, for all those “Newt will clean Obama’s clock folks” … umm … evidently not so much!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/florida-republican-debate-even-the-audience-cant-save-gingrich-from-romney/2012/01/26/gIQAvGtKUQ_blog.html?hpid=z2

Normal

January 27th, 2012
6:37 am

My weekend is not going to be so great. I lost another family member yesterday and tomorrow I’ll be driving to Kentucky for the funeral.

I think the hardest part of growing old is that everyone and everything you have known all your life, and thought was permanent, goes away forever. It’s kind of sad, really.

USinUK

January 27th, 2012
6:39 am

USinUK

January 27th, 2012
6:40 am

Normal –

oh, honey – I’m so sorry for your loss – you have borne more than your fair share lately.

hugs to you and the family

Normal

January 27th, 2012
6:44 am

USinUK

January 27th, 2012
6:49 am

you know what you need, Normal??

you need some cute.

and I’m just the gal to give it to you

http://cuteoverload.com/2012/01/25/tiny-dormouse-snores/

TaxPayer

January 27th, 2012
6:50 am

What! No birfer questions for the Republican candidates! I’m aghast. Happy Friday!

Cloudodust

January 27th, 2012
6:50 am

With 90% of blacks supporting the man who wants to spread the wealth around, one would be hard pressed to fill a courtroom with the scattered 10% that can’t stand the president’s attempt to remake LBJ’s Great Society in his own name…

Normal

January 27th, 2012
7:07 am

Cloud,
The keywords there are “Great Society”…which we aren’t anymore. We are a highly divided society.
We are a society of racial and cultural fears. We no longer are the Great Melting Pot we were once so proud of being. That will doom us all.

Normal

January 27th, 2012
7:08 am

USinUK,
Yeah, that was good…kinda tugs your heart strings…

Paul

January 27th, 2012
7:11 am

Morning, USinUK

I liked the part where Newt attacked Romney for investments in Freddie and Fannie, then Romney explained blind trusts and asked ‘have you looked at your investments?” Newt looked like a kid caught in a lie – then Romney followed up with ‘because you bought funds with investments in Freddie and Fannie.”

Wolf Blitzer was well prepared. When Newt overused his ‘attack the messenger’ defense, Wolf responded with “you are the one who brought up this issue this week” and Newt was trapped.

Paul

January 27th, 2012
7:13 am

Condolences, Normal. Travel safe.

Granny Godzilla

January 27th, 2012
7:15 am

Normal

Sorry for your loss…..

Our family is watching my Pops slow decline and it’s breakin’ our hearts.

Normal

January 27th, 2012
7:15 am

Thanks Paul.

Normal

January 27th, 2012
7:16 am

Granny,
Thanks and Good vibes coming your way from me.

USinUK

January 27th, 2012
7:24 am

Paul – 7:11 – (said in my best Mona Lisa Vito voice) – oh, yeah … he’ll totally wipe the floo-wah with Obama …

:lol:

Granny Godzilla

January 27th, 2012
7:29 am

Thanks Normal.

Paul

January 27th, 2012
7:29 am

USinUK

Oh yeah, Newt saying “How dare you ask me that question!!!!” would go over real well in a general election debate -

Doggone/GA

January 27th, 2012
7:40 am

“We no longer are the Great Melting Pot we were once so proud of being”

Sure we are. “We” were only proud of being a melting pot in the abstract. Given the prejudice that has ALWAYS existed here, xenophobia has ALWAYS existed side-by-side with our pride in being a melting pot.

stands for decibels

January 27th, 2012
7:43 am

So sorry to learn of your loss, Normal.

I don’t imagine it ever gets easier, just more frequent, as we age.

stands for decibels

January 27th, 2012
7:45 am

xenophobia has ALWAYS existed side-by-side with our pride in being a melting pot.

I’m sure that in the 1890s, you had yahoos whining “it’s not like it was in the 1830s, when we were a melting pot.” or whatever they called the melting pot in the 1830s.

The minute I hear someone crying about “hypenated Americans” I just visualize a short bus.

stands for decibels

January 27th, 2012
7:45 am

Dang, dead threaded. Headin’ upstairs.

Normal

January 27th, 2012
7:46 am

Have y’all been keeping up with Rachel Maddow and Politifact? Wow, she really burns them a new one.

Mick

January 27th, 2012
7:47 am

Normal

My sympathies friend…I’ve been in the same boat with friends, they are leaving this world quite a lot these past years. I have learned two important lessons: Your health is your wealth and live life full throttle because like a thief in the night…

AmVet - Like most decent Americans, I'm a Marxist.

January 27th, 2012
7:49 am

Normal, sorry for your loss. Hang tough, buddy.

So I take it that the traveling carnival was entertaining last night?

I’m sure the recondite faithful will be along shortly to make their brilliant observations the liberal media, socialists, communists and Marxists (oh my), income redistribution and class warfare.

Yet these Norman Einsteens can’t even get non-farcical candidates to run for the highest office in the land.

Otay.

John McCain the Second it is…

md

January 27th, 2012
10:33 am

“The problem is 50 years have gone by, where is the uprising?”

Exactly……they have made their choice…..tyranny. After 50 years, if the masses still believe it is the fault of others then they deserve their fate.

How long did Quadafi rule Libya? The military in Egypt? Assad in Syria? and on and on….

Or the British over their “colonies”?

Ann in Nebraska

January 27th, 2012
2:22 pm

ByteMe, so “because to force him to comply would imply that the Court is greater than the executive”, you are implying that the executive is greater than the Court. You are so wrong.

nbc1966

January 27th, 2012
2:45 pm

“Halftrack, the Supreme Court has ruled 3 times that Obama is a natural born US citizen and meets the constitutional requirements to hold the office of President of the US.

Also, in the one case it hads they ruled that John McCain was a natural born US citizen and met the requirements ffor the presidency.

And if this case reaches the Supreme Court they will rule the same way again.”

To Jconservative: SCOTUS has never ruled that BHO is a natural born citizen. In every case to come before them they have declined to hear it based on the issue of the petitioners standing. This is not the same thing as ruling BHO is a natural born citizen. Further, they’ve never ruled on any issue pertaining to John McCain. The only body to reference McCain’s citizenship was Congress when it issued a nonbinding resolution that he was indeed natural born.

nbc1966

January 27th, 2012
2:56 pm

jconservative said:
“Jay, John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone not in the US, yet the Supreme Court ruled in his favor.

Remember everyone, the Constitution says what the Supreme Court says it says.”

Yes, McCain was born in the Canal zone but as mentioned before, SCOTUS has never ruled on his citizenship. And yes, the Constitution says what SCOTUS says it says…and they said in Minor V. Happersett that a natural born citizen is someone born in the US to citizen parents. Therefore, BHO is not, as SCOTUS defines it, a natural born citizen.

preacher

January 27th, 2012
3:10 pm

You all won’t be laughing and whatnot when the USURPER is arrested and put in prison. There is only one other alternative………..

lynch

January 27th, 2012
4:37 pm

News release today……Taitz has accepted Newt Gingrich’s invitation to lead the expedition to the moon….three rockets to be launched from the newly constructed Romney Lauch center in the Cayman Islands….Romney picking up the tab (its a charitable contribution that his accountants say will be correctly recorded…..Santorum and Perry will be heading the other two rockets…a fourth launch scheduled for Valentines Day will be a newer version of the lunar lander expedition with 3 cosmo nuts-Callista, Michelle Bachman, and Sarah (I am the Half Governor) Palin as the crew….various womans hair spray manufacturers are experimenting with a new fueling system that will fuel the launch and provide the cosmo nuts the ability to breathe….

James

January 27th, 2012
6:11 pm

One can easy tell who supports the president and who support Dr. Taitz. To the posters this not about our constitution this is about left against right! When the Chinese submit candidates for president and you Obama supporters objects we will remind you of your rants of today. Your feelings will be different then, but too late. Obama, is liar, fraud and clown . A disgrace to this country. He didn’t appear because lying in court isn’t the same as lying to voters. Like he does every day. Obama can not go a day without lying. I In court the penalty is a 10 year prison sentence. This is why he didn’t appear, consequences and real identity. A true Chicago thug If I ever saw one. His name to me is thug the pug!

jeanniemac

January 27th, 2012
8:24 pm

The Social Security number used by Obama was issued in Connecticut to a person born in 1890, who had died. It could not pass the EVerify system used by the government to match a number with a person. There are also instances of different SS numbers used by Obama in various addresses.
Obama himself said that when someone is keeping a secret, they must have something to hide.
ALL of his records are sealed, including college thesis, financial aid, grades, passport records, Social Security records, etc etc. He must be hiding something. What?

jeanniemac

January 27th, 2012
8:27 pm

http://www.newswithviews.com/Publius/huldah101.htm
This is an article by lawyer and Constitutional scholar, Publius Huldah. She tells how the Constitution is being used and ignored by the Obama administration.

Jay

January 27th, 2012
8:27 pm

JeannieMac:

He’s a Martian, sent here as an advance scout to probe our defenses. It’s the only explanation that fits, don’t you think?

Erwin's cat

January 27th, 2012
8:35 pm

“It’s cold” – G. Clooney

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Pat Johnshon

January 29th, 2012
1:24 pm

What will your attitude and comments be when the shoe is on Romney’s foot? He may be in the same situation as Obama since his father was born in Mexico not the USA.

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