House leaders try to squash ethics reform

Here’s how the scenario was supposed to play out:

State Rep. Tommy Smith, a Republican from Nicholls in southeast Georgia, was supposed to go to the House well Tuesday to announce introduction of a long-awaited ethics-reform bill,  which includes a $100 gift limit. Smith planned to use the occasion to invite fellow legislators to come to his desk on the House floor to sign on as co-sponsors of the legislation.

Never happened.

Despite a strong lobbying effort from the Tea Party and other conservative grassroots groups in favor of the bill, not a single one of Smith’s fellow Republicans was willing to defy House Speaker David Ralston by publicly supporting the legislation.

As a result, the public signing ceremony was canceled and the legislation was introduced later in the day without fanfare and with only one solitary Republican, Smith, listed as sponsor.

Officially, only one Democrat — state Rep. Mary Margaret Oliver of Decatur — is listed as a co-sponsor, but there’s a story there as well.

Apparently, more than a few House Democrats had volunteered to sign onto the bill.  However, supporters understood that a long list of Democratic co-sponsors could do them more harm than good by making it easier to portray the bill as partisan legislation. So Oliver’s name is the only one listed.

And yes, that’s ridiculous in light of the strong support expressed for the bill by Tea Party groups, Georgia Right to Life, the Eagle Forum and the Christian Coalition, among others. But political attacks don’t have to be factual to be effective.

(In the nonpartisan spirit in which this legislation was crafted, I should acknowledge that it is easier for Democrats to embrace such legislation. As the party out of power, they are not generally the target of lobbyist courting and thus have less to lose by a gift limit).

In another sign of just how strongly Ralston opposes the bill, the speaker did not assign it to any of the committees of usual jurisdiction. He didn’t give it to the Ethics Committee, the Governmental Affairs Committee or either of the two judiciary committees, where the bill could at least theoretically be given a hearing on its merits.

Taking no chances whatsoever, he assigned it to the House Rules Committee, which will never hold a hearing on its merits and where such bills are kept under lock and key, never to be heard from again.

In other words, it doesn’t matter to Ralston that 72 percent of Georgians and 82 percent of Republicans have told pollsters that they support a gift limit. It doesn’t matter that legislators in every surrounding state have imposed gift limits or outright bans on themselves, often after a major scandal has shamed them into it. It doesn’t matter that an impressive bipartisan coalition of groups have joined together to champion the reform.

ralston

What matters is that our elected leaders have decided that they like accepting gifts. They believe as a result of their wonderfulness they are entitled to be showered with trips, meals, parties, golf outings, etc. And they’re pretty much defying the people of Georgia to do anything about it.

So … whatcha gonna do about it?

P.S. A list of Georgia House members is available here.

– Jay Bookman

151 comments Add your comment

Cobb Mom

January 26th, 2012
6:59 am

It’s lovely to hope that Ralston’s constituents will not re-elect him based on this alone, at face value makes him look corrupt. BUT, having the speaker as your representative is a guarantee of getting goodies in your district. Too bad that greed among the populace will win out over values and the greater good.

Bruno

January 26th, 2012
7:02 am

Good work, Jay.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
7:02 am

“So … whatcha gonna do about it?”

well, I’m sure some are going to comment, anonymously, on a democrat blog…and probably use some witty term like the “conned” or “repugnican”…it takes a village, jay, and you sir, are their “Big Toe”.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
7:04 am

oh, and I agree with your column.

Normal

January 26th, 2012
7:08 am

What do you expect them to do? They don’t want to kill the golden goose, now do they?

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
7:09 am

LOVE Mary Margaret Oliver … thought she rocked the joint when I worked there, glad she’s still working hard for the people of the Great State of Georgia.

John

January 26th, 2012
7:14 am

Jay, you are not hating on the Tea Party as usual. Why the change?

Jay

January 26th, 2012
7:15 am

John, I’ve never hated on them. When I’ve strongly disagreed with them, I’ve said so. When I agree with them, I’ll say that too.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
7:16 am

Granny Godzilla, if you’re around for this–you asked what kind of response I got from the six individuals I’d politely emailed with specific pleas to address this issue? To whom I’d said in essence, “both left-leaning and right-leaning columnists from the AJC agree that this is a sensible approach to avoid the appearance of conflict of interest and restore some faith among voters in the integrity of our legislative process?”

The answer is: nothin’. Not one reply. Not even an auto-reply to acknowledge receipt.

Guess we’ve gotta call them and annoy the people who answer their phones if we’re going to get noticed. What a pain.

Jack

January 26th, 2012
7:19 am

“…greed among the populace…”: You have hit the nail right on its little old head. Greed is the reason for our present “economic downturn” as it’s called.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
7:20 am

ty, may I ask what you have done, so far?

I’m going to have a pretty full plate today but during their office hours, if I can nip away and make a call or three today during a break, I will. How about you?

ragnar danneskjold

January 26th, 2012
7:24 am

Not an issue that I care about. GA has too many laws on the books already.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
7:25 am

sfd,
sure, as I’ve recently relocated to TX(meaning I don’t live in Georgia anymore, and these people don’t represent me), I’ve done nothing but contribute a little snark here on the blog.

Normal

January 26th, 2012
7:26 am

ragnar doesn’t care about ethics? Hmmmm…

Aquagirl

January 26th, 2012
7:28 am

Wow, that went over like a lead balloon. Congrats to those who joined Jay in his tilting at windmills.Y’all feel better?

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
7:28 am

I don’t live in Georgia anymore, and these people don’t represent me

fair enough. You and Paul have your hands full with your own Lone Star schmuckery.

All u need is love

January 26th, 2012
7:29 am

Was that last line a nod to Romeo and Juliet, Dire Straits?

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
7:30 am

sfd,
you’re right about that.

Normal

January 26th, 2012
7:32 am

Attitudes like ragnar’s are what got us into this pickle. Sure we already have laws on the books, but doesn’t it bother you just a little that they are being ignored best case or subverted worst case?

What does that tell you about your personal ethics?

Jay

January 26th, 2012
7:32 am

Aqua, the situation looks considerably better in the Senate, and if a good-government bill can be passed in that chamber, it increases the pressure on the House considerably.

Ayn Rant

January 26th, 2012
7:32 am

Politicians are, by nature, ethically challenged. They have to lie and cheat to get elected.

Asking a politican to become ethical is like asking him to give up campaign funds and political favors.

Aren’t campaign contributions just legalized bribes? Aren’t a politican’s requests for campaign funds and favors just legalized extortion? Are the hordes of lobbyists that swarm around the Capitol when the Legislature is in session just “concerned citizens”?

Aquagirl

January 26th, 2012
7:44 am

and if a good-government bill can be passed in that chamber, it increases the pressure on the House considerably

We tried campaign finance reform at the national level and now Newt is getting $5 million checks. This is the same Newt who screwed up his own announcement entering the race because he traveled on a corporate-paid plane. The same Newt who made obscene amounts of money as a historian. And the same Newt who is stomping Romney by sheer populism. People obviously don’t have a problem with bought and paid for politicians.

Ban $50 lunches and the rich will find another way to give politicians money for re-election, “fact-finding” missions or whatever.

Stupid sheeple voters = unethical representatives. Pimp any law you like, the results will be the same.

5-0

January 26th, 2012
7:51 am

Dear Aquagirl,

The $5 million check was not to Newt. It was to an unaffiliated group who supports him. There is a difference….

Obscene amounts of money? He wrote books and people bought them….People hired him for his knowledge. You make it sound like a rich uncle gave him gov’t contracts.

Misty Fyed

January 26th, 2012
7:54 am

The problem is most people don’t pay attention to State and Local politics below the level of Governor. Most people I know can’t name their representatives. Every few years they vote simply by looking for who has the R or the D by their name. the pols know this. That’s why so many simply change party when the wind blows the other direction confident that nobody really notices. We can change all this but only when enough people really care enough to scare the politicians by betting involved.

stands for decibels

January 26th, 2012
7:59 am

Mary Elizabeth

January 26th, 2012
8:00 am

I will call members of of the General Assembly to urge passage of the Ethics Reform Bill –

RIGHT AFTER I urge them to stop the passage of House Resolution 1162, sponsored by House Speaker Pro Tem Jan Jones (R – Milton), which is in response to the Supreme Court ruling last year that rendered the state Charter School Commission unconstitutional; essentially the state had no right to approve special charter schools that move local public education dollars without local board of education approval.

The proposed amendment allows special charter schools to petition the state for charter status and access local school dollars. This resolution was introduced yesterday at the State Capitol in concert with School Choice Day.

IF PASSED HR 1162 WOULD ALTER THE CONSTITUTION AND ALLOW PRIVATE COMPANIES THAT OPERATE CHARTER SCHOOLS TO SYPHON LOCAL TAX DOLLARS WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY OR OVERSIGHT, WITHOUT ACADEMIC STANDARDS AND WITHOUT EDUCATOR CRITERIA CURRENTLY IN PLACE IN TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

(Thomas Jefferson would be appalled because, in my opinion, this resolution is a strong attempt by the Republican majority legislators to further dismantle public schools, of which Jefferson was a strong supporter. The resolution leads to private sector control over the education of Georgia’s students – not a healthy proposition in that students could be used for profit and/or for propaganda. Jefferson felt that public schools, paid for by taxes on all citizens to educate ALL young citizens, were the foundation of our Democratic Republic because public schools would not be controlled by special interests. Jefferson wanted no limits placed on the freedom of thought. Public schools are not bought by anyone. Public schools belong to the public. Improve them; don’t dismantle them. I support charter schools that are allowed by Local School Board approval, but I do not support charter schools that are allowed by this Statewide Charter School Commission.)

Here is how HR1162 would read, if on the ballot in November. I wonder how many other Republican majority state General Assemblies are pushing a similar resolution, and I wonder what ideological forces might be behind this effort to dismantle public education?

Below is the language of that Resolution. The words sound innocuous. Don’t be fooled.
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“Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended for the purpose of raising student achievement by allowing state and local approval of public charter schools upon the request of local communities?” YES or NO
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STATUS: This resolution was just put on the agenda to be heard in the House Education Committee today (Thursday) at 1:00 p.m. in Room 506 in the Coverdell Legislative Office Building (CLOB). This bill is expected to move through committee today.

Hopefully it will not. When you call to support the ethics reform bill, also voice disapproval of Resolution 1162. Thank you.

Atlanta Mom

January 26th, 2012
8:01 am

As Gomer Pyle would say:
Surprise, surprise

Aquagirl

January 26th, 2012
8:02 am

The $5 million check was not to Newt. It was to an unaffiliated group who supports him.

The end result is the same. You want to pretend the accounting shuffle makes a difference, enjoy your delusion. BTW—unlatching your lips from Newt’s backside might get a little oxygen to your brain and change your thought process.

ragnar danneskjold

January 26th, 2012
8:02 am

Sorry my attitude distresses you leftists. You magnify the urgency of government in our lives, and I regard government control of our lives as a cancer, to be excised, not a growth to be cultivated and managed.

USinUK

January 26th, 2012
8:05 am

“and I regard government control of our lives as a cancer, to be excised, not a growth to be cultivated and managed”

ohsweetjeebus … my eyeballs just rolled so far back in my head, I could see most of my major organs …

Fly-on-the-Wall

January 26th, 2012
8:06 am

It’s a sad state of affairs but something I think most people have just come to accept. A friend of mine told me once about a saying his grandfather had – ‘If you vote out the current office holders you’ll just be replacing the old crooks with new crooks”

I’ll place a call but with the full knowledge that it will not change one thing.

DannyX

January 26th, 2012
8:10 am

This really shows just how weak the Tea Party is in Georgia. They made a lot of noise going after Obama on the national level yet they have absolutely no influence over the Good Ol’ Boys here at home.

RIP Tea Party.

Fly-on-the-Wall

January 26th, 2012
8:10 am

Mary E. – thanks for the update. Privatization will be the ruin of this nation.

Normal

January 26th, 2012
8:11 am

I think I finally have ragnar figured out…he’s an anarchist… :)

md

January 26th, 2012
8:13 am

Although I have no use for any type of gifts for favors….I think this Ga issue is a drop in the bucket compared to the insider trading issues going on in Congress.

Do folks know it is illegal to bribe a misfit with say 20k in cash, but not illegal to offer access to an IPO where they would stand to gain 5x that amount…..or that plenty of misfits are cashing in on legislation they pedal/support knowing that the same legislation will have huge impacts on the associated industries and then buy/sell stock in those industries accordingly……

We are being played……..and it isn’t restricted to one side. I’ll give Obama credit for mentioning it, but I think that was more like closing down the lottery after having the winning ticket.

Guy Incognito

January 26th, 2012
8:13 am

Thanx for the #’s Jay. I will be calling.

Bud Wiser

January 26th, 2012
8:13 am

This is yet another reason that government, as essentially a part-time job, can be bought at any level locally through internationally, because of its very structure.

I say pay politicians like athletes, in the millions, and eradicate ALL donations, gifts, and PACs. If the job is so damned good that they want re-elected then let them use their own money, or let whatever comes into DC at the IRS with those $1 ‘contributions’(split 435 ways) that are checkoffs on everyone’s tax forms be their sole sources of re-election campaign coffers.

Come to think of it……. if they can only use that, then perhaps they’d devote more attention to revising the tax code to make it more ‘fair’ and inclusive by having the 50% that currently pay NO income taxes join the party!

Thank you thank you, no need for applause, I already know that is a brilliant idea.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 26th, 2012
8:26 am

The session is not over yet. Keeping the pressure on over and over again is about the only thing that works….

godless heathen

January 26th, 2012
8:27 am

I’ll continue to support the limit on lobbyists’ gifts, but you got to admit that rags has a point. The reason that the lobbyists have incentives to influence the politcos is that government is primarily in the business of picking winners and losers and so if you want to be on the winning side of government’s largess you have to grease the wheels.

Mary Elizabeth

January 26th, 2012
8:29 am

Fly-on-the-Wall @ 8:10 am

“Mary E. – thanks for the update. Privatization will be the ruin of this nation.”
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Thank you for your voiced support. I just placed my 8 am post on Kyle Wingfield’s blog, also.
You are right privatization will be the ruin of this nation. There must be balance between the private and public sectors in our nation. The business sector should be private. Education MUST remain public, including public charter schools that are public institutions in reality, not in name only, controlled by private interests and private money.

Just observe the lack of quality and success of Florida’s schools once they dismantled public schools. Improve public schools; don’t dismantle them by legislators who are often pawns of higher wealth and power interests, and are not educators, nor do they understand education with the depth of educators.

Thomas

January 26th, 2012
8:29 am

How about a some heavy public rebuke of Hatfield and the judge “ordering” Obama to court. What a great city and state but sometimes we keep getting pulled into the dark ages by our lack of leadership.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
8:35 am

off topic

“Had the Denver Broncos made the Super Bowl, Kornegay said, there would have been a legion of insomniac oddsmakers in Nevada, their dreams haunted by visions of fans in Tim Tebow jerseys lining up to cash gargantuan winning tickets.

The Broncos’ odds were as high as 5,000 to 1 in some places — that’s a $100,000 payout on a $20 bet — and Kornegay said he took numerous bets on them.

“If the Broncos were in the Super Bowl, the lights would definitely be dimmer around this place,” he said. “I’m not even sure we’d be talking right now.”

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
8:36 am

Let’s annoy the crap out of them. I just called the speaker’s office and the girl that answered already was sounding annoyed that I was calling questioning his decisions.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
8:37 am

Aquagirl 8:02,

Sort of like Bozo getting down on his knees before the SEIU or that 28M dollar contribution to his 2008 campaign. I am not sure what he had his lips around but the payday was not bad.

md

January 26th, 2012
8:38 am

Want an eye opener? Take the time to watch this 60 minutes clip….and as I said, both groups of misfits are playing this game. If nothing else, jump to the 14 min mark and listen to the bit on “political intel”…..ex-misfits patrolling the halls listening for insider info which in turn gets passed on to insiders on “the Street”.

There might be a very good reason the misfits seem to be leaving DC with much more money than when they arrived:

http://www.newsytype.com/13487-congressional-insider-trading/

Adam

January 26th, 2012
8:40 am

But political attacks don’t have to be factual to be effective.

As we well know by now.

stephen

January 26th, 2012
8:40 am

ragnar says Georgia has too many laws on the books already and he doesn’t care? I can think of a better example of, “we get the government we deserve.” Politicians love silence and indifference from their constituents nearly as much as they love gifts. Stay quiet Georgia. Anyway, they’ll probably do the right thing next time.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
8:41 am

Representative Wilkinson’s office says he hasn’t had time to form an opinion on it yet cause it was only introduced yesterday. They said he’ll call me back. I’m calling BS on both of those.

Adam

January 26th, 2012
8:42 am

Where are the people who say Jay never says anything good about Republicans?

Adam

January 26th, 2012
8:44 am

stephen: Stay quiet Georgia.

It’s fine to talk about this stuff in quiet rooms….

Adam

January 26th, 2012
8:45 am

Heck where are the “How come you’re not writing a story on ______, Jay?” people?

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
8:45 am

Adam, 8:42,

When forced to do the obvious to avoid looking like a dufus, there is little choice.

Adam

January 26th, 2012
8:46 am

Likely excuse kayaker. I wonder if you think the same of when he says something good about Democrats.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
8:48 am

Adam, 8:46,

Nope.

Curious Observer

January 26th, 2012
8:49 am

I think I finally have ragnar figured out…he’s an anarchist

There’s little difference between modern conservative Republicans, libertarians, and anarchists, Normal. What they have in common is a hatred of government—unless that government supports their side. Anarchists are essentially amoral. They can go to either extreme—from fighting on the side of the leftists in the Spanish civil war to advocating the destruction of entire parts of federal government today. People like Ragnar don’t bother me. Rather, I get bothered when such people are given power over our lives. That’s why this year’s elections are important.

Aquagirl

January 26th, 2012
8:50 am

Sort of like….

……Aaaaand somebody needs their Adderall because they can’t stay on topic.

Barack Obama is the president. If you enjoy the idea of sucking, there’s something for your bitter, dried up, obsessively hateful lips. Mmmmmm! How’s that for breakfast? Better yet, the Republicans are imploding so you can get another four years of your daily Barack allowance. Right down your throat, as you cons are so fond of saying.

You want to use somebody’s post as a lame segue to your daily can’t-contain-yourself anger, you might wanna pick someone else. You don’t want attention that badly.

Tancred

January 26th, 2012
8:54 am

“…because public schools would not be controlled by special interests.”

Hello Mary Elizabeth.

The “public” schools are already controlled by special interests; they are called weatlthy parents, and they live in nice suburbs with nice “public” schools. The poor parents (or in most cases, parent) live in poor neighborhoods with crappy schools. This defacto segregation leads to a two-tier public school system that is a mockery of the Jeffersonian Ideal of having every child eductated to the same level. That said, considering the behavior and “quality” of urban public servants, it’s doubtful that more money will solve the problem.
Basically, I agree with you, but this country is becoming more and more a two-class society, and those of the upper class believe they got there through their own hard work and brilliance; those at the bottom feel it’s more important to have the trappings of “success” (money, clothes, bling, etc.)than any kind of meaningful education. Is there a middle road? I don’t know.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
8:58 am

Great picture of Jan Brewer with her finger in the middle of Bozo’s chest, lecturing him on border security. Even invited him to tour the border with her and what does he do?….. walk away in mid-sentence. Sort of like his confrontation with Bebe. Any doubt about Bozo’s stand on border security? He doesn’t have one.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
9:01 am

Jay, are there provisions in state law to recall men like Ralston?

Because unlike rags, many of us are concerned about the imperious criminals who run this state and would like to do something about helping them seek employment in the private sector…

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
9:03 am

K 71

Looks like Jan Brewers behaviour was modeled on that of Hilly Holbrook.

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
9:04 am

AmVet – Probably has to go through his district? Just guessing, cause I don’t know for sure, but it wouldn’t be a bad idea. Gotta say, those NE Georgia Republicans seem much more corrupt than your average politician (Ralston and Deal), wonder what they’re teaching up there.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
9:05 am

Speaking of that unusual conglomeration of differing interests that supporting reigning in these pigs at the trough, Ralph Nader has penned a very interesting article on the emerging alliance between progressives and libertarians on a wide variety of issues.

Count me in on anything that helps break up the self-serving incumbency protection rackets of our hyper-corrupt duopoly.

Peter

January 26th, 2012
9:06 am

” Too many laws on the books ” Great stuff…… we don’t need no stinking ethic’s !

Not when the GOP is in charge !

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
9:07 am

I’m thinking that term limits are a great idea. Of course, we would probably just end up with more lobbiests but term limits would be a start.

Daedalus

January 26th, 2012
9:09 am

Actually Ragnar, I don’t think anyone really cares what you think or say…

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
9:10 am

(ir), after much vacillating over the years, I believe that term limits is an idea whose time has come.

Now, for a variety of corrupted reasons, it is virtually impossible to get rid of these permanent parasites, frauds and sell outs.

Ennis Eaton

January 26th, 2012
9:13 am

Jay…… I can’t help it, I need a better platform. Please help me. The guvment has gone and done it. They have declared tomato paste a vegatable. Yea, Yea, I know… It’s made from tomatoes and tomatoes are a vegatable, but wasn’t this issue made a laughingstock years ago??? Or is tomatoe paste different from Ketchup?? I mean except for consistancy.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
9:16 am

Granny, Granny, Granny, 9:03,

What an absolutely stupid comparison. If you are implying that Brewer is a racist like Hilly, you are so far off the mark. She wants the border of her state secured. The Federal government is tasked, by law, to do this. They haven’t. She is wondering when Bozo and his goons are going to start enforcing the law and sealing our borders. By all counts, that will never happen while Bozo is president. To imply that Brewer has racial overtones in her conflict with your president is ridiculous. Is everything about race?

Mary Elizabeth

January 26th, 2012
9:17 am

Thanking Jay Bookman, in advance, for these remarks of mine, which I just posted on Kyle Wingfield’s blog, regarding public education. There will be no further posts by me – on this thread – on education, because this thread is about ethics reform. Thank you, again, for the indulgence of this important educational message, shared.

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“Mary Elizabeth
January 26th, 2012
9:11 am
GeeMac @ 8:34 am

Thank you for your excellent post at 8:34 related to poor educational results and poverty, as well as the ultimate result of what a State Charter School Commission might create in Georgia. I am a white senior citizen, who well remembers racially segregated schools in Georgia and the spiritual and moral abyss that these segregated schools created for all Georgians. Now, with privileged charter schools, we could recreate another segregated society, but one now segregated by wealth and class, rather than by race. Is this what we are about as Georgians?

I see a beautiful vision whereby Local School Board’s would establish REAL public charter schools that are allowed to innovate and find more successful ways of targeting and individualizing instruction than mainstream public schools have been able to accomplish. Then, these locally ordained public charter schools would share and coordinate their findings with mainstream public schools for ALL of the public, not just the elite few, which the State Charter School Commission may inadvertently create.

Those with money, power, and time advocate for charter schools established by the State Charter School Commission. I advocate for ALL of those less fortunate families and children who are working so hard just to survive that they have no voice and may not even be aware, as you and I do, of what will be changing in their lives for the worst, if we do not speak up for them. There will ALWAYS be some form of public schools in Georgia because some parents simply will not be able to afford the money and time for private transportation to charter schools, nor be able to afford charter schools, even with vouchers. I speak for those children and those parents. If we deplete public monies for State Mandated Charter Schools, which end up being privately maintained or sponsored, we will have depleted resources from the remaining public schools that will continue to try to educate these less fortunate children.”

Mick

January 26th, 2012
9:18 am

yaker

You really are a pickle, jan brewer is a moron. Your hatred of this president is quite ugly and banal. Netanyahoo is not some great leader, he wouldn’t be bupkis without the US, and he knows it, apparently you have no clue…

Talking Head

January 26th, 2012
9:19 am

It’s a whole lot easier talking the talk, than walking the walk.

You would be amazed to know what the power of money holds once you’re in a position of authority.

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
9:20 am

Way to go Jan Brewer!!!!! Classic picture, I’ll have to make a copy and frame it for my office. I’m sure urkle was so upset last night that he threw a hissy fit and me-shell had to rock him to sleep. Poor baby.

AmVet

January 26th, 2012
9:23 am

The ODS crowd will do damn near anything to deflect away from the topic at hand, huh?

As long as the state and federal pigs have an R after their name, they are in the rags camp of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.

And nary a one of them will address the fact that corruption, from our shameful governor on down, has gone UP since the GOP took over state governance.

You’re doing a heckuva job, connies…

Mick

January 26th, 2012
9:23 am

Joe, joe, not you too? Let’s look at this on the surface? What exactly did the previous president do about our borders? We had more illegals enter this country than ever, they looked the other way. That picture might have carried more weight (no pun intended) if it were chris christie, but c’mon jan brewer? That’s not really someone to admire…

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
9:27 am

k71

I beleive that for Jan Brewer it is all about race.

Oh and I would suggest you do a little homework on the current situation
on the border and the moves the Obama Administration has made.

It is only fair and balanced to give credit where credit is due.

Oh and – You are the admitted racist on the blog….Remember?

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
9:27 am

Not long now before Bozo and his lovely wife are off the public dole and out of government housing. He is so incapable of doing his job that he just walks away from those who would criticize him. The supreme arrogant narcissist with his chin in the air. November cannot come soon enough.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
9:28 am

amvet,
works both ways…point out obama is “bought and paid for” too, and the former “speak truth to power”ers start yelling about “hate”.

Doggone/GA

January 26th, 2012
9:28 am

“It’s made from tomatoes and tomatoes are a vegatable,”

actually, tomatoes are a fruit

Mick

January 26th, 2012
9:29 am

Joe the plumber, yaker

Got a great picture to recommend – Machete. It’s far out ridiculous but it does have an interesting perspective from the other side. If you don’t like violence, action, and gore, take a pass…

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
9:29 am

mick, it goes much deeper than what the last President did. What the last President didn’t do was have DOJ sue a state over enacting laws that mirror existing Federal laws, didn’t sic the DOJ on a sheriff who has more illegal alien arrests than anyone else because he upholds his oath of office, didn’t disrespect or dismiss a sitting Gov. at the White House. Barry has egged this on as much as she has.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
9:30 am

“I beleive that for Jan Brewer it is all about race.”

shocker…of course you believe that…it’s a gag reflex.

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
9:33 am

Granny,

So Brewer is a racist for her criticism of this clown. That seems to sort of fit a pattern….. those who criticize are automatically labeled as racists. Our borders are like a sieve with no rhyme nor reason about immigration policy. It’s as though it doesn’t even exist. There are portions along the border in Arizona where signs are erected warning Americans to avoid American soil because of the danger of drug gangs and illegals crossing our border. And what does Holder and Bozo do about it? Not a damn thing. And Brewer is pissed…. really pissed…. and she has every right to be.

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
9:34 am

mick, great movie, I caught it not long ago on one of the pay channels, Tarantino doing what he does best, besides even us old coots like looking at Jessica Alba, Mrs. Joe even told me if she ever followed me home we could keep her as long as she cooks and cleans.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
9:35 am

joe

My sister lives in scottsdale, I understand your point but that is just about it, brewer is a one issue governor. Remember, we get all of cuba, central america and south america pouring into south florida. The cubans are the golden children who can legally stay if they make it to land. Unbelievably ridiculous and unfair, especially if you are haitian – boom, deported immediately. We as a country have immigration issues. Personally, I think we should have a moritorium for at least a year and come up with some kind of policy. All these repubs down here right now pandering to the cubans, it’s a joke and they want to strengthen a failed policy of 50 years! Aye jos mios…

Normal

January 26th, 2012
9:36 am

I’m not sure about Jan Brewer but I do believe that the border/immigration situation could hide racism under that banner…just a thought.

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
9:37 am

kayaker, don’t worry about it. Don’t you know if you don’t like barry then you are a racist….period. It’s true, I’m such a racist against my own family that I have to sit at a seperate table for family reunions and cookouts. It’s not easy standing up for what you believe nowadays…..lol

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
9:37 am

K71

do the research, until then talk to the hand.

TaxPayer

January 26th, 2012
9:38 am

A lack of ethics from our Georgia Republicans, save one, is a small price for all these groups to pay, right. I mean, they got their small government and lower taxes and right to life and jobs and family values, right, and all they had to give up was ethics. :lol:

Joe The Plumber too.

January 26th, 2012
9:40 am

Mick, I too have family in Arizona and visit there every year or so, my son is stationed at DMAFB in Tucson and it is crazy what I hear from him down there.

The hate is so funny to watch

January 26th, 2012
9:42 am

“The supreme arrogant narcissist with his chin in the air.”

Project much?

Granny Godzilla

January 26th, 2012
9:43 am

one more thought on Jan Brewer boorish behavior…

can we just stop for a minute and think about what would be said
if the positions in the photo were reversed?

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
9:43 am

The Obama administration has increased deportations of “those people”…maybe this situation could “hide racism under that banner”…just a thought.

JOE Cool

January 26th, 2012
9:44 am

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
9:27 am

You got 5 more years buddy!!

kayaker 71

January 26th, 2012
9:46 am

Normal, 9:36,

I don’t want any of them here unless they enter legally….. cubans, latios, Germans, Italians… you name it. None of them. This has less to so with race and more to do with upholding our laws. Bush did a crappy job, so did Clinton….. Reagan wasn’t much better. All have been complicit and I don’t forgive any of them. But to sue states that just want laws enforced, like Alabama, Arizona and South Carolina is bordering on the ridiculous. It’s not like these people are US citizens. They are here illegally and that is against our laws. Our federal government has dropped the ball for a long time now and it’s time to correct this mistake.

ty webb

January 26th, 2012
9:46 am

“can we just stop for a minute and think about what would be said
if the positions in the photo were reversed?”

well surely you’d be here calling obama a “sexist”…right?

(ir)Rational

January 26th, 2012
9:47 am

AmVet – I agree, but those parasites are never going to vote to give themselves term limits. Anyone got any actual advice on how we could get this done?

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 26th, 2012
9:50 am

I am firing off a few emails. Does anybody know if this Bill has been assigned a number yet?

Thank you.

lynnie gal

January 26th, 2012
9:53 am

The TP needs to dust off their signs and make themselves useful down at the capitol, invading public hearings and shouting down legislators like they did during the effort to make health care available to Americans. If they can’t make their own chosen pay attention to their demands to stop feeding at the trough, they are dead in the water. Sorry for the cliche’s.

Libertarian

January 26th, 2012
9:54 am

“People obviously don’t have a problem with bought and paid for politicians.’

Like your boy Obama?….how much does he plan to spend on this year’s election?? $1 billion?? And he had the audacity to lecture congress about money playing too big of a part in politics. He ran the most expensive campaign in history and will do it again. Hypocrite.

Mick

January 26th, 2012
9:54 am

joe

By the way, love your description of obama as uerkel, that’s a lot more creative than the too simplistic obozo moniker…geez give it a rest…