Our ‘Marxist in chief’ and the state of our union
Let’s be honest: There is no discernible difference between those who insist that Barack Obama is disqualified by birth from serving as president and those who claim that he is a Marxist or socialist. Both are equally absurd.
Neither group has any factual ground on which to base its inane charges; in their rhetoric, both groups tell us far more about their own internal psychology than they do about the president.
Consider, for example, this portion of last night’s State of the Union address from our “Marxist in Chief”:
First, if you’re a business that wants to outsource jobs, you shouldn’t get a tax deduction for doing it. That money should be used to cover moving expenses for companies like Master Lock that decide to bring jobs home.
Second, no American company should be able to avoid paying its fair share of taxes by moving jobs and profits overseas. From now on, every multinational company should have to pay a basic minimum tax. And every penny should go towards lowering taxes for companies that choose to stay here and hire here in America.
Third, if you’re an American manufacturer, you should get a bigger tax cut. If you’re a high-tech manufacturer, we should double the tax deduction you get for making your products here. And if you want to relocate in a community that was hit hard when a factory left town, you should get help financing a new plant, equipment, or training for new workers.
There were other steps announced as well: “a Trade Enforcement Unit that will be charged with investigating unfair trading practices in countries like China;” a “Financial Crimes Unit” of highly trained investigators to crack down on large-scale fraud; a new education initiative aimed at improving work skills among 2 million Americans; a policy that will reduce federal funding to colleges that allow tuition to rise too quickly, putting them out of reach for many in the middle class.
And then of course there’s this:
“As I told the Speaker this summer, I’m prepared to make more reforms that rein in the long-term costs of Medicare and Medicaid, and strengthen Social Security, so long as those programs remain a guarantee of security for seniors.
But in return, we need to change our tax code so that people like me, and an awful lot of members of Congress, pay our fair share of taxes.
Tax reform should follow the Buffett Rule. If you make more than $1 million a year, you should not pay less than 30 percent in taxes. And my Republican friend Tom Coburn is right: Washington should stop subsidizing millionaires. In fact, if you’re earning a million dollars a year, you shouldn’t get special tax subsidies or deductions. On the other hand, if you make under $250,000 a year, like 98 percent of American families, your taxes shouldn’t go up. You’re the ones struggling with rising costs and stagnant wages. You’re the ones who need relief.
Now, you can call this class warfare all you want. But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense.
We don’t begrudge financial success in this country. We admire it. When Americans talk about folks like me paying my fair share of taxes, it’s not because they envy the rich. It’s because they understand that when I get a tax break I don’t need and the country can’t afford, it either adds to the deficit, or somebody else has to make up the difference — like a senior on a fixed income, or a student trying to get through school, or a family trying to make ends meet.
That’s not right. Americans know that’s not right. They know that this generation’s success is only possible because past generations felt a responsibility to each other, and to the future of their country, and they know our way of life will only endure if we feel that same sense of shared responsibility.”
That last point is critically important. Those who oppose the president’s tax-reform policies condemn them as divisive and complain that he is pitting Americans against each other. But those complaints are born of a philosophy that rejects the concept of shared responsibility in the first place. That philosophy envisions each of us as separate and isolated units, without obligation to each other or the greater good. It assumes that we are stronger when each of us is selfishly pursuing our own goals without concern for each other or future generations.
I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that this country would have achieved all that it has achieved to date had that philosophy been allowed to determine public policy. As Obama suggested last night, that’s not how we got to where we are; it is not how to get to where we need to be.
If that makes Obama a Marxist, well, then I’m a Marxist too.
– Jay Bookman
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Hmmmmmmmmm
January 25th, 2012
11:57 am
I guess mom has her priorities backwards….
BLAME IT ON BUSH
January 25th, 2012
11:58 am
GOP SUCKS……OBAMA 2012
getalife
January 25th, 2012
11:58 am
Great job real Americans supporting one of our best Presidents ever.
Four more years.
td
January 25th, 2012
11:58 am
Obama is a socialist and believes in Marxism. He is just using the Sal Alisky model of getting us there by using the movement of:
Social Democracy: calls for the profound reformation of capitalism to align it with the ethical ideals of social justice while maintaining the capitalist mode of production, rather than creating an alternative socialist economic system.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 25th, 2012
11:58 am
The conned really don’t like American Idol….. Why I bet many conned have it tuned in while they sit in their closets or it is Dancing with the Stars or one of them Real Housewives shows.
BLAME IT ON BUSH
January 25th, 2012
11:59 am
GOP Hates AMERICA VOTE democratic..2012
getalife
January 25th, 2012
12:00 pm
td,
Take your lies back to kyle’s.
Nobody will respond to your lunacy here .
Get lost td.
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
12:00 pm
@Jm
January 25th, 2012
11:22 am
Jay has the whole things backwards
Jesus
He must live in a house of mirrors
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Most of you live in a glass house.
Stop throwing stones.
You did not throw stones at George W. Bush when he LIED to all of you about weapons
of mass destruction and you FELL for it HOOK LINE AND SINKER.
Now all of you have BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS.
There are dead soliders crying out from the grave asking why?
Joseph
January 25th, 2012
12:03 pm
I feel sorry for that dead horse Obama and the dems keep beating… Tax the rich… pay your fair share…. alternative energy… green jobs…. its Bush’s fault…. i inherited this… A vote for Obama is certainly an admission of ignorance……
willie lynch
January 25th, 2012
12:03 pm
Hmmmmmmmmm
January 25th, 2012
11:44 am
If that is correct, then according to the philosophy of the right he did what he was suppose to do, help the job creators get wealth so they could then create jobs. According to the “trickle down” theory they should be creating jobs. Since he did make them rich and all.
gm
January 25th, 2012
12:03 pm
JB
heavy, job killing regulations
I guess thats why there have been increase 54k CEO’s: Please turn off fox idiot news and find the truth””’
Stevie Ray
January 25th, 2012
12:03 pm
MARYELIZABETH,
Thanks for the response and you are correct about labeling someone nuts….too much coffee.
I’m wondering if Bush or McCain had killed OBL if your peeps would be praising a job well done. I’m glad he’s dead having lost 50 plus colleagues at 911. However, politicizing this outcome when it was put in motion years before BO is absurd. The entire intelligence network was in shambles and has been under reconstruction since 2002 or so. Ten years after the fact, OBL is irrelevant reduced to a porn loving closet residing old man. Yes, the killing was ceremonial and politicized..if done by a GOP, I’m sure you would be quick to give them credit as well.
I will take a look at the book you suggested however I’m from Missouri on the relevance of any NYT’s contributor…know that for every economist who suggests DC policy created any relevant job growth I can find one to disagree. Can you tell me the cost of each job you alledge his stimulus created?
What ever happened to those shovel ready jobs for infrastructure improvement? Oh, I saw last night he wants to really make that work…promises promises
361 more days
January 25th, 2012
12:04 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2012
11:42 am
No Joe, just enlighning you as to the fact that BO will not be the POTUS next year, and when a new POTUS takes office, he will not be required to give a SOUA…………..Gezz, I was trying to be nice and you had to go be a typical liberal/democrat/progressive/marxist and spew your humorless lies.
td
January 25th, 2012
12:04 pm
“No one thinks of destroying civil society as a community ordered in a civilized war. Quite to the contrary, Social Democracy does not want to break up civil society and make all its members proletarians together; rather, it ceaselessly labors to raise the worker from the social position of a proletarian to that of a citizen and thus make citizenship universal. It does not want to replace civil society with a proletarian society but a capitalist order of society with a socialist one.” Eduard Bernstein[
This is Obama core belief system.
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
12:06 pm
@td
January 25th, 2012
11:58 am
Obama is a socialist and believes in Marxism. He is just using the Sal Alisky model of getting us there by using the movement of:
Social Democracy: calls for the profound reformation of capitalism to align it with the ethical ideals of social justice while maintaining the capitalist mode of production, rather than creating an alternative socialist economic system.
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We are not impressed with your copy and paste information.
Anyone can google, copy and paste.
We would be more impressed if those were your words not someone else’s.
Originality is a lost ART.
td
January 25th, 2012
12:07 pm
“Social democracy should neither expect nor desire the imminent collapse of the existing economic system … What social democracy should be doing, and doing for a long time to come, is organize the working class politically, train it for democracy, and fight for any and all reforms in the state which are designed to raise the working class and make the state more democratic.” Eduard Bernstein[
Andy Dufresne (from St Simons)
January 25th, 2012
12:08 pm
I thought the rebuttal by Larry the Cable Guy was not his best werk.
Partisay
January 25th, 2012
12:09 pm
Wow…td is really smart.
willie lynch
January 25th, 2012
12:10 pm
Wow!!!! It’s Saul Alinsky, and how many of you parrots had even heard of him before “Chucky” made mention of him? Why don’t you free thinkers stick to chirping and braying, “Polly want a cracker”?
td
January 25th, 2012
12:10 pm
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
12:06 pm
I have been saying the same thing for years in my own words but Jay is disputing the FACT that Obama is a socialist and quoting a movements own leadership is the best way to prove how wrong he truly is.
td
January 25th, 2012
12:11 pm
willie lynch
January 25th, 2012
12:10 pm
I probably knew who Sal Alinsky was before you were born.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 25th, 2012
12:11 pm
I hear you Mary Elizabeth. But the absolute hatred of the intellectual life displayed by these Birchers becomes a little much, I must say.
I'm the same height as rapper "LiL Wayne".......Grover Norquist
January 25th, 2012
12:12 pm
Come on Goper’s, you still upset by the President’s speech last night. Are you mad that no one is watching the gop debates(Survivor)? I love when the gop candidates give speeches and the newstations always use TV up-close shots of the candidate so people can’t see that it’s only about 60 people in the audience……funny
The Great President Barack Obama did not move you last night????……ok, how about we go back to a speech that moved and inspiried you. It’s from a couple of years ago
2003 – “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”
willie lynch
January 25th, 2012
12:13 pm
td
January 25th, 2012
12:11 pm
I think Sal is his cousin from Jersey.
Paulo977
January 25th, 2012
12:16 pm
gadem :kind of like socialist and other fear mongering words.
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You are correct! They just throw them around and feel they are knowledgeable
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
12:18 pm
@0311/1811
January 25th, 2012
9:47 am
As A Man Thinketh So Is He :
By the way, remember all of the “Hippie – Dippie” communes of the 60’s and 70’s ? How did that work out for you ?
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Yes I remember.
It worked out fine.
I was able to get a good education
Had a great job,
Llived all over the U.S.,
Paid my taxes
Gave to charity
Voted every year
Loved my neighbors
I approached everyone with a prepared forgiveness
I want less
I give more
I am debt free
I am retired and loving life
I look for the face of God in everyone
I THINK IT WORKED OUT FINE.
How about you???????????
Wild Eyes
January 25th, 2012
12:19 pm
(ir)Rational: I’ll take this point by point:
1. I don’t believe I was calling him a fascist, merely an economic fascist. – So he not a fascist but he is an economic FACIST? That’s like calling a murderer and sympathetic murderer but the fact is he/she is a murderer.
2. I never even implied that he was a dictator. But the fact that the government has exercised in the past few years the power to take over companies (GM and Chrysler) and force others to take money they didn’t want and possibly didn’t need (see the statements of several of the large banks after they were forced to take the bailout money) leads me to believe that he is an economic fascist. – (i) In order to be consider fascist one must be a dictor period. (ii) BO didn’t take over GM or Chrysler, both came to the govt. seeking a handout and both agreed to the terms of those handouts. Ford chose not the agree to the terms of the handout and thus withdrew their hands. (iii) TARP was created and administered by Bush with the support of Congress.
3. leads me to believe that he is an economic fascist. He wants to control the economy, while pretending to let it continue being a capitalist economy. – (i) Again, by definition BO is not a fascist or an economic fascist. (ii) See #2 above as it relates to BO WANTING to control the economy. (iii) Stock Market 1/1/2009 – 8776.39; The Stock Market 1/3/2012 – 12397.37; Corporate Profits 1/1/2009 – $1.258 trillion; Corporate Profits 3rd qtr. 2011 – $1.659 trillion (sooo, pretending to let it continue being a capitalist economy does make much sense)
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2012
12:21 pm
361 — “No Joe, just enlighning you as to the fact that BO will not be the POTUS next year”
So *you* say.
“and when a new POTUS takes office, he will not be required to give a SOUA…”
Well, then you’d better get your butt in gear nominating someone so Obama can beat him like a rented drum.
“………..Gezz, I was trying to be nice”
There are a lot of adjectives I’d apply to you, but “nice” would never be done of them.
“and you had to go be a typical liberal/democrat/progressive/marxist and spew your humorless lies.”
You forgot “honorably discharged disabled veteran” there, nitwit.
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
12:26 pm
@Hmmmmmmmmm
January 25th, 2012
11:52 am
There is ONE positive to the story about our First Lady… Her kids are very smart, seeing how they are already Senior Staffers…. Yes we are in good hands…. Hopefully the President’s kids are influencing his policy….
As a man thinketh so is he…. Just go back to watching American Idol!!!!
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Go back to watching American Idol?
This is what a man THINKETH.
Public ignorance is alive and well on this blog.
(ir)Rational
January 25th, 2012
12:27 pm
Wild Eyes – So, you can’t understand that the term “economic fascist” is different from “fascist.” Thanks for explaining that.
361 more days
January 25th, 2012
12:32 pm
Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe,
Don’t get so bent out of shape, no need for the name calling.
Regarding the last statement, Thank You for your service. Not sure, but does this mean that you can say what you want and it is automatically true? I don;t think so, and the fact tthat you had to bring that up, speaks volumes about you. My friend, you are not the only Honorably Discharged Disabled Veteran on the blog
Mary Elizabeth
January 25th, 2012
12:32 pm
Stevie Ray @ 12:03 pm,
I never referred, specifically, to the killing of OBL regarding Obama’s foreign policy. You did that. However, since you did, I will say that within a few months in office, Obama directed his Secretary of Defense that one of his first goals – if not #1 – as Commander-in-Chief was to bring Bin Laden to justice. Those within Obama’s administration got that message loud and clear from him, whereas President Bush diffused that message (Google it). I did post that Obama’s foreign policy was “comprehensive and wise” – I was thinking of his overall worldview and how he handles foreign policy with a cogent (another word I used) well-thought-through plan throughout the world. (Google his Nobel Peace Prize Speech to read of his “cogent, comprehensive, wise” foreign policy when he was in office only a few months.) That speech laid out what he would do in foreign policy, and his actions, since having delivered that Nobel Peace Prize Speech, have lived up to his presented ideas in that speech.
I am glad you will read “Age of Greed.” I learned of the book watching C-SPAN 2 over a weekend, when writers of non-fiction books speak to audiences regarding their work. After that, I ordered the book from Amazon. Impressive.
Finally, you write, “What ever happened to those shovel ready jobs for infrastructure improvement?”
He needs “a little help from his friends” – i.e., members of Congress, especially Republicans.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBDF04fQKtQ
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
12:32 pm
@I’m the same height as rapper “LiL Wayne”…….Grover Norquist
January 25th, 2012
12:12 pm
Come on Goper’s, you still upset by the President’s speech last night. The Great President Barack Obama did not move you last night????……ok, how about we go back to a speech that moved and inspiried you. It’s from a couple of years ago
2003 – “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”
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What about the speech on WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION.
It inspired and moved hem to endorse a lie.
As a result our sons, daughters, husbands, uncles, cousins WERE KILLED.
THEY ALL HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.
Be careful who inspires you.
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
12:34 pm
CORRECTION
@I’m the same height as rapper “LiL Wayne”…….Grover Norquist
January 25th, 2012
12:12 pm
Come on Goper’s, you still upset by the President’s speech last night. The Great President Barack Obama did not move you last night????……ok, how about we go back to a speech that moved and inspiried you. It’s from a couple of years ago
2003 – “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”
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It inspired and moved THEM to endorse a lie.
Mr. Right
January 25th, 2012
12:37 pm
If that makes Obama a Marxist, well, then I’m a Marxist too.
You are finally in the open with that! I knew you in the tank for Obama from day one!
Joe Hussein Mama
January 25th, 2012
12:39 pm
361 — “Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Don’t get so bent out of shape, no need for the name calling.”
Then stop calling the President names. And stop calling *me* names. It’s a pretty typical conservative argumentation method, complaining about others doing what you yourself are guilty of.
“Regarding the last statement, Thank You for your service. Not sure, but does this mean that you can say what you want and it is automatically true? I don;t think so”
I neither said nor thought anything of the sort. I’m simply pointing out that for all the pejoratives you tried to pile on me — despite your pathetic bleating about not wanting to be called names yourself — there are a lot of terms that apply to me that you’re quite simply ignorant of. Don’t be so full of yourself and your criticism. We already get that you don’t like President Obama, so grow the eff up and add something substantive to the discussion in here.
“and the fact tthat you had to bring that up, speaks volumes about you.”
The fact that you *complain* about it speaks volumes about *you.*
“My friend, you are not the only Honorably Discharged Disabled Veteran on the blog.”
Yes, but I’m better behaved than you, and I speak of our President in a mature, polite, respectful manner, no matter who he is or which party he belongs to. Clearly you were out on sick call the day that was covered in boot camp.
Mr. Right
January 25th, 2012
12:42 pm
Finally, you write, “What ever happened to those shovel ready jobs for infrastructure improvement?”
He needs “a little help from his friends” – i.e., members of Congress, especially Republicans.
Keystone pipeline ? I think he and he alone was responsible for killing them 20,000 jobs! Stop blaming others.
BLAME IT ON BUSH
January 25th, 2012
12:43 pm
Vote republican = vote against your own best interest. OBAMA is your DAddy
BLAME IT ON BUSH
January 25th, 2012
12:46 pm
NEWT , MITT, LARRY, CURLY, MOE, the best of the GOP……LOL……LOSERS..
homer sipmson
January 25th, 2012
12:50 pm
jb @ 1155 – aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh…..big government
Hmmmmmmmmm
January 25th, 2012
12:56 pm
@As A Man Thinketh So Is He
We all thank you for your contribution…. A mind is a terrible thing to waste….
Mary Elizabeth
January 25th, 2012
1:10 pm
Mr. Right@12:42 pm
The Keystone Pipeline had its unique problems. See http://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USEOPWHPO/2012/01/18/file_attachments/86267/2012xlpipeline.mem.rel.pdf
In terms of overall infrastructure development, however, Obama could use “a little help from his (Republican) friends.” It is not a matter of “blame”; it is a matter of facts. It is well-established that Republicans have been trying to “starve the beast” of government since the 1970s, even through their own words declaring that to be their mission. (See Paul Krugman’s 2/22/10 column, “The Bankruptcy Boys” and google “ALEC.”)
Look at what as happened in Republican-led Georgia, alone. Public schools will have been defunded by another billion dollars for the coming year (more job loss), and that same amount has been defunded to public schools for the last several years. Republican ideology simply wants to cut more and more government programs. Yes, Obama could use a change in that ideological mission to help create more infrastructure jobs throughout our nation. Balance is needed, once again.
joe
January 25th, 2012
1:22 pm
There’s a gulf of facts between what Barack Obama said last night, and what the truth really is. And like any gulf of resources, Obama doesn’t want you exploring it.
American Tradition Partnership drills down to the truth for you. Obama’s claims on energy are all false. The truth follows his statements.
“Over the last three years, we’ve opened millions of new acres for oil and gas exploration, and tonight, I’m directing my Administration to open more than 75 percent of our potential offshore oil and gas resources.”
Classic Obama sleight of hand. Like his radical Gang Green campaign bankrollers, Obama opposes energy development. But he knows that position will kill his campaign. His solution? Open land to permission to develop so he looks pro-jobs, but refuse to grant the permits so he shuts down jobs.
“…last year, we relied less on foreign oil than in any of the past sixteen years.”
As even the reliably liberal Washington Post notes, “The Energy Department cited a host of reasons why foreign oil imports have declined, noting the main reason was “a significant contraction in consumption” because of the poor economy and changes in efficiency that began “two years before the 2008 crisis” — i.e., before Obama took office.”
“But with only 2 percent of the world’s oil reserves, oil isn’t enough.”
A lie. Many experts say the U.S. has around 10 percent of the world’s reserves, and American oil is often of a higher quality and easier to develop than other countries. The U.S. has enough oil to last over a century.
“This country needs an all-out, all-of-the-above strategy that develops every available source of American energy – a strategy that’s cleaner, cheaper, and full of new jobs.”
Through shutting down granting of permits on land, a moratorium on deep-sea development followed by a virtual moratorium by not approving permits and now attempting to kill the Keystone energy pipeline, Obama has consistently opposed oil and gas development, our most efficient source of energy and a key driver of new jobs and prosperity.
“We have a supply of natural gas that can last America nearly one hundred years, and my Administration will take every possible action to safely develop this energy.”
Obama has worked to stop the permitting of gas wells, and his EPA cronies are working to outlaw the 60-year-old safe practice of “clean water extraction,” known as “fracking.”
“And by the way, it was public research dollars, over the course of thirty years, that helped develop the technologies to extract all this natural gas out of shale rock…”
Clean water extraction, or “fracking” is a 60-year-old technology. It is not a product of Jimmy Carter-era government spending.
“Because of federal investments, renewable energy use has nearly doubled. And thousands of Americans have jobs because of it.”
So-called “renewable” energy relies almost solely on “federal investments” (spending of taxpayer money) because it is too inefficient and expensive to be a practical source of power. Being forced to double wasteful spending to keep it alive and enrich his campaign donors is noting to brag about.
And research has shown so-called “green power,” backed only by government mandates and spending, destroys more jobs than it creates.
“We have subsidized oil companies for a century. That’s long enough. It’s time to end the taxpayer giveaways to an industry that’s rarely been more profitable, and double-down on a clean energy industry that’s never been more promising. Pass clean energy tax credits and create these jobs.”
The so-called “oil subsidy” he refers to is the business equipment depreciation deduction that ALL businesses get. What he proposes is to monkey with federal tax law to target just oil companies for a tax hike, then redistribute their money to his campaign bankrollers in the “green” energy racket.
“Of course, the easiest way to save money is to waste less energy. So here’s another proposal: Help manufacturers eliminate energy waste in their factories and give businesses incentives to upgrade their buildings.”
Like many of Obama’s failed proposals, he assumes private businesses do not know how to create profits, but his government planners do. In reality, this is just a scheme to transfer taxpayers’ money to his campaign supporters who have invested heavily in failed green businesses.
That’s the truth. Help me hold Obama accountable for his job-killing campaign of lies.
Sincerely,
Donald Ferguson
Executive Director
American Tradition Partnership
MightyRighty
January 25th, 2012
1:39 pm
Karl Marx would have been proud that his own failed economic system is still being tried by ignorant sycophants like Barack Obama. Last nights speech on class envy is straight from the Socialist Marxist play book.
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
1:42 pm
@Hmmmmmmmmm
January 25th, 2012
12:56 pm
@As A Man Thinketh So Is He
We all thank you for your contribution…. A mind is a terrible thing to waste….
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There are many different thoughts and a variety of states of mind.
It is wise to take a close look into the world of YOUR mind and to make the distinction between beneficial and harmful states of mind.
Once YOU can recognize the value of GOOD states of mind, YOU can increase or foster YOURS.
As A Man Thinketh So Is He
January 25th, 2012
1:53 pm
@joe
January 25th, 2012
1:22 pm
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We appreciate your comments. However,
That which is less is often better understood and more appreciated than what is more.
Simplicity is preferable and is more effective than verbosity (Using an excessive number of words).
YOUR party SUCKS! But MINE is GRRRRRREAT! (formerly That Black Guy)
January 25th, 2012
2:39 pm
HDB
January 25th, 2012
8:20 am
What Republicans persist in saying that Obama wants to raise taxes on the “job producers”; if lower taxes create jobs then here’s the question: Where are the jobs??
We have plenty of them where I work. Why? Do you need one?
AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.
January 25th, 2012
3:22 pm
Hello? is this thing on?
Granny Godzilla
January 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
i got a comments closed and now an hour of posts are missing…..
Granny Godzilla
January 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
Amvet
It’s just you and me buddy.
AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.
January 25th, 2012
3:25 pm
Same here, GG.
I guess Paul broke the damn thing again…
Adam
January 25th, 2012
3:26 pm
Granny: I think the post has been accidentally deleted or something
AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.
January 25th, 2012
3:26 pm
Cool. Who should we talk about? LOL!
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2012
3:27 pm
Dammit Paul! What the heck did you do?!
AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.
January 25th, 2012
3:27 pm
Earth to Bugs Bunny. Earth to Bugs Bunny. Come in, Bugs.
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2012
3:28 pm
AmVet,
By the way, I love the end of your moniker. Makes me chuckle.
Peadawg
January 25th, 2012
3:29 pm
“a policy that will reduce federal funding to colleges that allow tuition to rise too quickly”
Which will just make the college raise tuition even more….
jewcowboy
January 25th, 2012
3:30 pm
Maybe it was that post of Newt on the beach. The whole thing was taken down by the CDC for public health endangerment.
Granny Godzilla
January 25th, 2012
3:31 pm
AmVet
Maybe somebody got taken down ….?
Granny Godzilla
January 25th, 2012
3:31 pm
jewcowboy
well it made me sick
Adam
January 25th, 2012
3:32 pm
Peadawg: Which will just make the college raise tuition even more….
Only if ALL of them do it.
Kamchak
January 25th, 2012
3:33 pm
Paul broke the blog, again?
Adam
January 25th, 2012
3:33 pm
Ok back to producing then going home for the day. See you kids later. Stay classy.
AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.
January 25th, 2012
3:35 pm
Thanks, jcb.
First I would like to thank my parents, who supported me during the making of this important moniker.
LOL.
GG, I think what we’ve got here is a failure to communicate!
Granny Godzilla
January 25th, 2012
3:37 pm
the cons are all gone?
md
January 25th, 2012
3:39 pm
Probably been mentioned before, but a bit ironic that Ms Jobs was sitting in the balcony as Obama gave his diatribe about offshoring jobs…….good thing Apple doesn’t do that (sarc)………
Thomas
January 25th, 2012
3:39 pm
Stimulus of 800 billion “created” about 3.3 million jobs. With no negative impact to numbers regarding stickiness of said jobs that equates to about 240k per job. Those numbers would have shut down a non profit in charge of job creation for the disabled.
The stimulus was an abject failure just as the war in Afghanistan is and was an abject failure. Everyone needs to wake up and realized that DC is a monetary and economic sieve.
Granny Godzilla
January 25th, 2012
3:40 pm
md
And she didn’t storm out in anger or holler you lie or anything silly.
good thing she supports the President (nosarc)
Granny Godzilla
January 25th, 2012
3:41 pm
Thomas
240K per job….Iowa caucus math?
Adam
January 25th, 2012
3:42 pm
Thomas: The stimulus paid for more than the jobs, including some tax cuts. It would be stupid to take the entire amount and divide it by number of jobs.
Adam
January 25th, 2012
3:43 pm
Really leaving now
AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.
January 25th, 2012
3:45 pm
The stimulus was an abject failure just as the war in Afghanistan is and was an abject failure.
Not for BIG business, they weren’t.
Everyone needs to wake up and realized that DC is a monetary and economic sieve.
Because it is corporate owned territory.
Big business is opposed to socialism until it benefits them.
AmVet - Every time a publicly educated neo-con drives on public roads they are Marxists.
January 25th, 2012
3:47 pm
Here is something to bring a bit of joy and pride to every American…(See? I’m not always an _______!)
(CNN) — Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who moved the nation with an improbable comeback after a gunman shot her in the head last year, formally resigned Wednesday in an emotional appearance in the U.S. House of Representatives.
“I will recover and will return,” the Arizona Democrat said in a letter read aloud by her friend and colleague, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who fought back tears.
A standing ovation roared across the House chamber for Giffords. Teary-eyed legislators from both parties applauded Giffords as she submitted her letter of resignation to House Speaker John Boehner, who also fought back tears.
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called Giffords the “brightest star among us.”
“She has brought the word ‘dignity’ to new heights by her courage,” Pelosi said. “You will be missed in the House of Representatives.”
http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/25/politics/gabrielle-giffords/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
HDB
January 25th, 2012
4:06 pm
YOUR party SUCKS! But MINE is GRRRRRREAT! (formerly That Black Guy)
January 25th, 2012
2:39 pm
HDB
January 25th, 2012
8:20 am
” What Republicans persist in saying that Obama wants to raise taxes on the “job producers”; if lower taxes create jobs then here’s the question: Where are the jobs??
We have plenty of them where I work. Why? Do you need one?”
So you are admitting that jobs are becoming available in the Obama Administration?? WOW!! For as many conservatives that keep decrying that there are no jobs available…..that Obama is a “job killer”…..
Thanks for noting the contradiction……
(Nope, I’m working (thanks for the inquiry!)…..but I know of other people who ARE looking!!)
Nobody's Business
January 25th, 2012
4:51 pm
obamas_legacy — “It is probabilistic, not deductive, reasoning that best deals with causal relationships. While we cannot conclude with certainty from the truth of documented facts concerning his Marxist associations that Barack Obama himself is a Marxist, it is reasonable to conclude that there is a significant probability that he is and doing so commits no logical fallacy. So his associations are not, as his defenders maintain, irrelevant as evidence of his own beliefs. They are, in fact, determinant.”
Obama Derangement Syndrome at its finest. ^^^
While no one can conclude with certainty from the truth of documented facts concerning my associations with red-state untra-partisans at home, within my extended family and at home that I myself am a red-state untra-partisan, it is reasonable to conclude that there is a significant probability that I am and doing so commits no logical fallacy.
However, I can assure anyone making that unwarranted assumption (and therefore, logical fallacy) that I myself am most decidedly NOT a red-state untra-partisan.
Nobody's Business
January 25th, 2012
4:52 pm
Er . . . make that ultra-partisan
Paddy O
January 25th, 2012
4:56 pm
actually, the socialist view of him has a lot of merit – he parroted Hillary Clintons “It Takes a Village” emphasis in his state of the union speech last night. American Presidents, whose nation was founded on the rights of the individuals vs. the state, should not be emphasizing how everything was accomplished by people working as a team. What team created Coke? Owns the Falcons? Most private enterprise is individual dependent. Gov’t accomplishments are far more team oriented – getting to the moon, and getting Apollo 13 home. But, the key ethos of the nation is individuals overcoming set backs & barriers and becoming great – which is why we have a President and not a parliament. Obama is singing the wrong song.
Paddy O
January 25th, 2012
4:58 pm
Who thinks giving an inefficient federal bureacracy 30% of your hard earned $$ is wise or desirable? Obama can’t figure out how cut out spending – that is his greatest failure as the leader.
Paddy O
January 25th, 2012
5:13 pm
So, who thinks the Hoover dam could be built today with the current regulation scheme?
Retired Vet
January 25th, 2012
8:33 pm
Steve – USA (I support “None Of The Above”)
January 25th, 2012
9:10 am
Dude, you totally missed Corey’s point. No where did even remotely imply that the worst economic down turn since the great depression should be blamed on Mr. Bush solely. He was merely pointing out that people respond emotionally while leaving logic, reason and facts on the side of the road when it comes to political affiliation. Many on the right constantly believe without merit that unemployment under Mr. Obama was higher longer than any other president since the great depression.The figures do not support that position.
Retired Vet
January 25th, 2012
8:35 pm
oops, should have read highest longer or remained in double digits longer
Tom Middleton
January 25th, 2012
9:16 pm
To those to whom money is God and those who have the most his chosen, we’re all Marxists. But they’re the extremists, of course, and wrong as can be like always.
It’s just the way they see things from their materialistic self-imposed corners of the economy, and there’s little we can do about it, except understand who they are, where they’re coming from, and the fact that we’re the ones standing in the way of their getting even more.
One thing is certain, though, no matter how they try to portray us: There are many more of us than there are of them. And providing they haven’t taken away all of our rights to vote by this November’s election, we should be the ones left standing in charge, and it’ll no longer matter what they think of us at all!
Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
January 25th, 2012
9:34 pm
Jay, I am not as concerned about your psychology as I am your terrific lack of knowledge. Any Obama speech has much more in common with Das Kapital than either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. I would recommend you read “How Marxism Killed Keystone” at Victor Davis Hanson’s website.
Joel Edge
January 26th, 2012
6:32 am
“But those complaints are born of a philosophy that rejects the concept of shared responsibility in the first place.”
You were doing good till you got there, Jay. Get back to me when everybody is paying a share of the tax burden.
Adam
January 26th, 2012
8:15 am
Paddy O: What team created Coke? Owns the Falcons?
Uh… you really think individuals are responsible for this? Only as a team. Maybe it was a small team, maybe it was a large team, but it most certainly was not ONE PERSON that made those two things successful. One does not deserve credit for all of the eventual success of a company or football team (I mean, really?) simply because of an idea or because of initial monetary investment. They HELPED start it, they did not make it successful all on their own, and they also did not build it on their own. An idea without a team to help you build it is a dead idea, or an idea that someone else will pick up and make successful. And then you don’t get any credit at all just because you had the idea first.
Paddy O
January 26th, 2012
7:15 pm
Adam – having the idea first is the basis for patent law. The individual who had the skill & energy to create the company gets the predominant credit. Tell us who else was on the ships with Columbus. Tell us another 100 guys from Patton’s army. This liberal, bankrupt notion that the worker bees are under paid and under appreciated is utopianist crap. If the worker bees don’t like, go create their own product that can’t be lived without. Why is the bomber called the Mitchell? Why is the pilot of the plane given credit for safely landing the plane in the Hudson? The mechanics are relatively irrelevent for the glamorous event, trying to give them credit is the crux of the bankruptcy of modern political liberalism. It is also pollyanna utopianistic drivel. Keep lying to yourself – hopefully most of the rest of the country recognizes BS, and can tell when the emporer is wearing no clothes. If not, we follow Rome.
Paddy O
January 26th, 2012
7:16 pm
Obama was the Saruman of our political times. Wolf in sheeps clothing. Fortunately, even if he wins, we are only stuck with his nincompoop tuckas another 4 years, and most of that time he’ll have a divided congress, at the very least.
truthisjoy
January 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
Obama said he has extra income he doesn’t need…why then did he and his wife take all the tax breaks allowed? Why does he have lavish parties, play golf like its going out of style? Why does he not humble himself and show by example. Jesus and Marxism are in two different zip codes. Obama can try to veil his Marxist beliefs with candy coated words, but his true colors can’t be hid as the truth exposes all duplicity. Marxism forces charity and blows a trumpet. Jesus inspired giving is about humility and not encouraging covetousness! Obama was mentored by Marxist, Communist, anti liberty ideologies. Its not up to Obama who keeps what and who gets what he takes. If the Democrats loved the poor so much, stop playing on rich guilt, repent and give your money away. Total Marxist hypocrites pushing mundane policies.
Matthew 6:2-4
When you give to someone in need, don’t do as the hypocrites do—blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity! I tell you the truth, they have received all the reward they will ever get. But when you give to someone in need, don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. Give your gifts in private, and your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.