Our ‘Marxist in chief’ and the state of our union

Let’s be honest: There is no discernible difference between those who insist that Barack Obama is disqualified by birth from serving as president and those who claim that he is a Marxist or socialist. Both are equally absurd.

Neither group has any factual ground on which to base its inane charges; in their rhetoric, both groups tell us far more about their own internal psychology than they do about the president.

Consider, for example, this portion of last night’s State of the Union address from our “Marxist in Chief”:

First, if you’re a business that wants to outsource jobs, you shouldn’t get a tax deduction for doing it. That money should be used to cover moving expenses for companies like Master Lock that decide to bring jobs home.

Second, no American company should be able to avoid paying its fair share of taxes by moving jobs and profits overseas. From now on, every multinational company should have to pay a basic minimum tax. And every penny should go towards lowering taxes for companies that choose to stay here and hire here in America.

Third, if you’re an American manufacturer, you should get a bigger tax cut. If you’re a high-tech manufacturer, we should double the tax deduction you get for making your products here. And if you want to relocate in a community that was hit hard when a factory left town, you should get help financing a new plant, equipment, or training for new workers.

There were other steps announced as well: “a Trade Enforcement Unit that will be charged with investigating unfair trading practices in countries like China;” a “Financial Crimes Unit” of highly trained investigators to crack down on large-scale fraud; a new education initiative aimed at improving work skills among 2 million Americans; a policy that will reduce federal funding to colleges that allow tuition to rise too quickly, putting them out of reach for many in the middle class.

And then of course there’s this:

“As I told the Speaker this summer, I’m prepared to make more reforms that rein in the long-term costs of Medicare and Medicaid, and strengthen Social Security, so long as those programs remain a guarantee of security for seniors.

But in return, we need to change our tax code so that people like me, and an awful lot of members of Congress, pay our fair share of taxes.

Tax reform should follow the Buffett Rule. If you make more than $1 million a year, you should not pay less than 30 percent in taxes. And my Republican friend Tom Coburn is right: Washington should stop subsidizing millionaires. In fact, if you’re earning a million dollars a year, you shouldn’t get special tax subsidies or deductions. On the other hand, if you make under $250,000 a year, like 98 percent of American families, your taxes shouldn’t go up. You’re the ones struggling with rising costs and stagnant wages. You’re the ones who need relief.

Now, you can call this class warfare all you want. But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense.

We don’t begrudge financial success in this country. We admire it. When Americans talk about folks like me paying my fair share of taxes, it’s not because they envy the rich. It’s because they understand that when I get a tax break I don’t need and the country can’t afford, it either adds to the deficit, or somebody else has to make up the difference — like a senior on a fixed income, or a student trying to get through school, or a family trying to make ends meet.

That’s not right. Americans know that’s not right. They know that this generation’s success is only possible because past generations felt a responsibility to each other, and to the future of their country, and they know our way of life will only endure if we feel that same sense of shared responsibility.”

That last point is critically important. Those who oppose the president’s tax-reform policies condemn them as divisive and complain that he is pitting Americans against each other. But those complaints are born of a philosophy that rejects the concept of shared responsibility in the first place. That philosophy envisions each of us as separate and isolated units, without obligation to each other or the greater good. It assumes that we are stronger when each of us is selfishly pursuing our own goals without concern for each other or future generations.

I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that this country would have achieved all that it has achieved to date had that philosophy been allowed to determine public policy. As Obama suggested last night, that’s not how we got to where we are; it is not how to get to where we need to be.

If that makes Obama a Marxist, well, then I’m a Marxist too.

– Jay Bookman

488 comments Add your comment

gadem

January 25th, 2012
8:15 am

Anger

January 25th, 2012
8:17 am

Roll over from previous post….

I wonder why Mitch McConnell and John McCain seemed so angry last night! Ole Mitch looked like he wanted to explode! I wish someone in the media could ask him does he still feel the same way about making President Obama a one term president or would he like to take those words back and focus on the economy instead? Boy was he pisssed last night!!!

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 25th, 2012
8:19 am

I didn’t watch the speech last night, I never do. Obama didn’t do to well when the AJC did their Fact Checks on his speech. In fairness I bet the Republican response would have also set off the BS alarms but I don’t see where the AJC did a fact check on them.

gadem

January 25th, 2012
8:19 am

I call it fear mongering…a little of xenophobia mixed with racism. I believe those that are opposed to the position of the President or Democrats in general don’t believe in helping others. But helping others is the foundation of Christianity so I don’t know how they cope when they are opposed with the foundations of their faith…

HDB

January 25th, 2012
8:20 am

What Republicans persist in saying that Obama wants to raise taxes on the “job producers”; if lower taxes create jobs then here’s the question: Where are the jobs??

Guy Incognito

January 25th, 2012
8:24 am

Stop wussin around and seize the 1% assets. Enough already. You tigers cannot change your stripes

USinUK

January 25th, 2012
8:24 am

“Neither group has any factual ground on which to base its inane charges”

it goes beyond that – it has more to do with them clinging desperately to a word/words when they have absolutely NO idea what they mean.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 25th, 2012
8:25 am

What a difference between a President who delivers a speech with hope and says we have things to fix and improve but we can do it verses a pipsqueak who starts off with be afraid and we are in grave danger nonsense and then talks about the additional debt placed on top of a debt we already could not afford [conveniently leaving how we got to that debt and why that additional money was spent].

But me, alas like Jay, I be a marxist, socialist, progressive, liberal or whatever label the nimrods of the conned want to use….because I am proud not to be CONNED.

gadem

January 25th, 2012
8:26 am

HDB, the jobs are coming…just wait on them. I mean the taxes have been low for what 10 years?

Union

January 25th, 2012
8:26 am

hmmm. what he left out was that a company should get a break if they expand if they do it in the us. but only HIS way.

USinUK

January 25th, 2012
8:26 am

“a little of xenophobia mixed with racism”

and, considering the woefully low % of Americans who travel outside their borders, they slam Europe without ever having been there / seeing it first hand …

Mary Elizabeth

January 25th, 2012
8:26 am

“That philosophy envisions each of us as separate and isolated units, without obligation to each other or the greater good. It assumes that we are stronger when each of us is selfishly pursuing our own goals without concern for each other or future generations.

I don’t believe that. I don’t believe that this country would have achieved all that it has achieved to date had that philosophy been allowed to determine public policy.”
===================================

Thank you for saying it.

And, that is why our wise founders stated in the Preamble to the U. S. Constitution (which gave the intent underlying the forthcoming specific tenets) that the U. S. government was to “promote the general welfare” of our nation. The word “general” was/is significant.

True American

January 25th, 2012
8:28 am

Ok Mr. President great speech, now go to those areas where poor whites who are on food stamps and show them that the Mitts and the Newts of the rep party dont care anything about them.
His speech shows that he is living in the 21st century and the rep party are still caught up in the 20th Century, why would any body vote for Mitt who helped sent our jobs over seas but is waiving the American flag.

Stewart Day

January 25th, 2012
8:29 am

All I get from OBAMANOMICS is BIG GOVERNMENT FOR BiGGER GOVERNMENT. Any one ever recall what our country was actually founded on? Who wants the government involved in anything we do. Get out the way, lower all of our taxes, stop spending and entitling our citizens, stop make people pay for all this stuff, and stop regulating. Does anyone actually believe anything that originates in Washington DC ever produces the results they intend or work?

Mick

January 25th, 2012
8:29 am

Unfortunately jay, those on the other side do not hear the same words you do, they are stuck in their beliefs – no matter what they hear. Just peruse the comments from last night up to this point, they are in denial and their champions have no credible response, except the negative propaganda…

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2012
8:29 am

I’m a Marxist, you’re a Marxist, we’re all Marxists, YEAH!

Except the Republicans! :lol: :lol: :lol:

real john

January 25th, 2012
8:33 am

Jay:

Ok…so I will bite for a minute. Look at the part highlighted. He used one paragraph to talk about entitlement reform ““As I told the Speaker this summer, I’m prepared to make more reforms that rein in the long-term costs of Medicare and Medicaid, and strengthen Social Security, so long as those programs remain a guarantee of security for seniors. ”

Obama then used then next five paragraphs to talk about raising taxes and fairness. Which one do you think he really cares about????

When you used a 5-1 ratio to make your argument on something, I think we all know what he really wants…Higher taxes and no entitlement cuts.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

January 25th, 2012
8:33 am

Washington should stop subsidizing millionaires.

amen

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 25th, 2012
8:34 am

Who wants the government involved in anything we do

This is from the same people who have no trouble with laws regulating marriage, people’s bodies and crying about what Obama needs to be doing about gas prices.

The disconnect is strong in these conned.

Granny Godzilla

January 25th, 2012
8:34 am

“Anyone who tells you otherwise, anyone who tells you that America is in decline or that our influence has waned, doesn’t know what they’re talking about,” …

President Barack Obama

Normal

January 25th, 2012
8:34 am

The writing was on the wall when corporations became “people”. Money talks and big money talks the fastest. It is the little guy, the average American who is getting hurt by all of this. This is not the America I grew up with, or defended with a third of my life and bled for. A corporate America is just one step away from totalitarianism. Like it or not, that is what we are fighting against and the Republicans are fighting for. Thank the Great Spirit President Obama sees this is is willing to shine a great big spot light on it. Wake up folks or we are going to lose everything we know and love about our way of life. We need to take care of our own.

Finn McCool (Class Warfare = Stopping Rich People from TAKING MORE of OUR MONEY)

January 25th, 2012
8:34 am

I’m a Leninist.

F. Sinkwich

January 25th, 2012
8:35 am

Poor Mary doesn’t know the difference between “promote” and “provide.”

stands for decibels

January 25th, 2012
8:35 am

There is no discernible difference between those who insist that Barack Obama is disqualified by birth from serving as president and those who claim that he is a Marxist or socialist. Both are equally absurd.

And both will wind up casting a vote for Mitt in the general, despite their protestations to the contrary. Just felt like rubbing that in.

mehlman rings twice

January 25th, 2012
8:35 am

I would like to congratulate our Special Forces for rescuing those Americans from those Somali pirates. It’s good that we have a President who doesn’t wait for his wife’s astrologer or Greek cruise demands to do his job. Other candidates for the job may get appalled at the timing that events occur but that’s part of the job.

Normal

January 25th, 2012
8:36 am

” I am proud not to be CONNED.”

AMEN! Keep, and well said!

Truth Man

January 25th, 2012
8:36 am

First President to have a social security number from a state in which he never lived.

First President to preside over a cut to the credit rating of the United States .

First President to violate the War Powers Act.

First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .

First President to defy a Federal Judges court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.

First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.

First President to spend a trillion dollars on shovel-ready jobs and later laughingly admit there was no such thing as shovel-ready jobs.

First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.

First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.

First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.

First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.

First President to terminate Americas ability to put a man in space.

First President to encourage racial discrimination and intimidation at polling places.

First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.

First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.

First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly speak-out on the reasons for their rate increases.

First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state they are allowed to locate a factory.

First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN)

First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.

First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.

First President to appoint 45 Czars to replace elected officials in his office.

First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office.

First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.

First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to earn it.

First President to coddle American enemies while alienating long-time Americas allies.

First President to publicly bow to Americas enemies while refusing to salute the U.S. Flag.

First President to go on multiple global apology tours.

First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends, paid for by the taxpayer.

First President to refuse to wear the U.S. Flag lapel pin.

First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.

First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000.00 a year at taxpayer expense.

carlosgvv

January 25th, 2012
8:37 am

Jay, you’re being too nice to these people. The truth is they have little or no understanding of what Marxism or Socialism is. They only thing they accomplish by these posts is a display of their profound ignorance. As for their insistance that he is disqualified by birth, this is nothing more than a very thin disguise for their racism.

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2012
8:37 am

Any one ever recall what our country was actually founded on?

I know, I know! Once upon a time, a whole bunch of disenfranchised people with no social skills set off from the MudderLand in their own individualized rowboats and rowed for forty days and nights until they reached their new world where they each individually went out and hunted bear and made their own clothes and procreated all alone because they believed in their individuality and they did not need any help from anyone for anything and they lived happily ever after.

AmVet - Like most decent Americans, I'm a Marxist.

January 25th, 2012
8:37 am

Great article, Jay.

Given the political realities in Washington and the LONG history of the modern US Congress doing virtually nothing to help the average middle class American family, chances are exceedingly good that Obama’s words will, in most cases, remain just that.

But if even some of these changes are made, that is very good for America.

That he at least has the moral courage to take principled stands is what separates him from those in the repugnant Reverse Robin Hood Party and their neer-do-well, slogan-ladened enablers…

Out By The Pond

January 25th, 2012
8:37 am

A good Republican will never ever let facts influence their decision, end of discussion.

Joe The Plumber too.

January 25th, 2012
8:37 am

Even the AJC exposes his half truths. urkle couldn’t be truthful to the American people if his job depended on it….oh wait it does. barry and me-shell better start packing, eviction day is coming.

Gordon

January 25th, 2012
8:37 am

Kyle Wingfield said it well:

“Witness President Obama’s 2012 budget proposal, which assumed taxes would go up as he desired starting in 2013 — and yet, for the rest of his presidency, would not have cut the budget deficit even to 3 percent of gross domestic product. His budget deficits after raising taxes would have remained higher as a share of GDP than George W. Bush’s average budget deficit from the time he cut taxes until the housing bubble burst.”

We need a major restructering of our entitlement system, as well as major cuts in defense. Raising taxes makes great political hay, which is all this president can do, but doesn’t come close to solving our fiscal problems.

I don’t reject shared responsibility. I reject outrageous out-of-control government spending which has proven for decades that it doesn’t solve problems. I’m tired of throwing our money down a rat hole and stealing our children’s future.

This is all election year jibberish, entirely predictable, and as usual avoids the hard decisions that a real leader would make.

ty webb

January 25th, 2012
8:39 am

“without obligation to each other or the greater good. It assumes that we are stronger when each of us is selfishly pursuing our own goals without concern for each other or future generations.”

one can be “unselfish” without the power of the federal governemnt forcing them to be.

Normal

January 25th, 2012
8:39 am

President Obama WILL be our next President and it would be better for all concered to help him acheive his goals and become part of the solution instead of part of the problem. AMEN! (borrowed from Bill Orvis White)

Granny Godzilla

January 25th, 2012
8:40 am

EEK!

Material copied from the Freepers!

commoncents

January 25th, 2012
8:40 am

I had to turn it off immediately after turning it on… the first sentence we heard at my house was somthing like “Those evil banks are responsible for the thousands of people who were foreclosed on for not being able to pay their mortgage, so banks should be punished more.”

Where the hell did personal responsibilty go?? Vote Obama 2012, and you’ll never be forced to make bad decisions again!!

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 25th, 2012
8:40 am

“Anyone who tells you otherwise, anyone who tells you that America is in decline or that our influence has waned, doesn’t know what they’re talking about,” …

President Barack Obama

I read in this blog constantly that the America is in decline, from both sides.

poison pen

January 25th, 2012
8:41 am

Jay, Obama keeps saying that ” WE ” need to change the tax code so people like him pay more taxes, Well then why in the hell doesn’t he get it changed, he is the President and he could have done it in his first year as President.

He has a problem with companies outsourcing jobs, well then why in the hell doesn’t he do something about it, he is the President, and Jay please don’t use the moronic term that the Republicans won’t let him, it’s about time that he took responsibility for our nation.

I see that Romney gave 15% of his income to charities while Obama gave 1% that should tell you something right there.
I haven’t posted on here for a long time becaause most people on this site are just to partisan and can’t be objective in their thoughts, starting with you.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 25th, 2012
8:41 am

oops…typo…rats

Thug

January 25th, 2012
8:41 am

AmVet - Like most decent Americans, I'm a Marxist.

January 25th, 2012
8:41 am

Who wants the government involved in anything we do.

So tediously dull.

So juvenile.

So typical.

So sad…

Shawny

January 25th, 2012
8:42 am

He made many good points last night, some of which will not even stand in his own party, such as getting rid of bad teachers (unions will not accept), eliminating insider trading by congressmen (they will certainly not accept), opening up more offshore oil drilling (the environmentalists will not accept).
I was glad to hear him say many of the things he said. Unfortunately, we all know with the division in congress almost none of it will get done. He knows that too, which is why the speech with its repeated “…send me a bill…” requests wasn’t really a state of the union as it was a state of the re-election campaign.

Mr Sunshine

January 25th, 2012
8:42 am

Cmon Obama lovers…just travel to DC and kiss his butt, in person.

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2012
8:42 am

If Republicans do not want entitlements, then they should not accept them. — Warren Buffett

USinUK

January 25th, 2012
8:42 am

I’m a Groucho Marxist

barking frog

January 25th, 2012
8:42 am

I admire the President his good intentions but Warren Buffett is
not running for reelection. I don’t think anyone has ever won any
election running on raising taxes, even for the wealthy. For a
stump speech he should have left out the college makes you
legal part and concentrated more on boots on the border concerning
immigration. The alternative energy mission for the military
is an excellent idea with the vision of taking all military
installations off the grid both for security and R&D. The
President is doing a good job but that may not be enough.

Mick

January 25th, 2012
8:42 am

truth

More like lying man – every point refuted becausse of the absurdity, but hey believe in your claptrap, this is a free country even for fools…

F. Sinkwich

January 25th, 2012
8:43 am

“Anyone who tells you otherwise, anyone who tells you that America is in decline or that our influence has waned, doesn’t know what they’re talking about,” …

President Barack Obama

Granny believes our Marxist president rather than her lyin’ eyes.

USinUK

January 25th, 2012
8:43 am

Poison – last time I checked, the president was in the EXECUTIVE branch, not the LEGISLATIVE …

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 25th, 2012
8:44 am

mehlman rings twice

January 25th, 2012
8:44 am

By the way, Newt reminds of Georgia football in that he accomplishes something and then talks about it for the next 30 years. I like Alabama football which accomplishes something and then looks for ways to repeat it the next year.

ty webb

January 25th, 2012
8:44 am

if warren buffet wants to pay more taxes, then he should pay more taxes.— Ty Webb

Thug

January 25th, 2012
8:44 am

gm

January 25th, 2012
8:44 am

People who call President Obama socialist shows how stupid they are, CEOs are making record profits under this tough goverment requlations.
President Obama speech last night is what America is about, Rep debates are a joke filled with hate and they are tyring to paint a picture that America is dead.
President Obama showed who should lead this country, he makes Newt and Mitt look like amateur hour, the rep base can get all their tea party racist white base fired up but their are still many more Americans that believe in this country who are going to support this President.

Granny Godzilla

January 25th, 2012
8:45 am

F.Sinkwich

You know as a DNC plant I have the power to have you removed to the gulag.

You are being watched.

Shawny

January 25th, 2012
8:46 am

Interesting. Soon after I post that it was a state of the campaign speech, I came across:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/25/us/politics/state-of-the-union-more-like-state-of-the-campaign.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha23

…ditto

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2012
8:46 am

The I haven’t posted on here for a long time becaause… card has now been played.

Bruno

January 25th, 2012
8:46 am

Unfortunately jay, those on the other side do not hear the same words you do, they are stuck in their beliefs – no matter what they hear.

Mick, so true.

And if you, Jay, or any of the other Libs here had an ounce of honesty, you would admit that you do the same. But, no, you guys have talked yourseves into believing that somehow liberals are the only ones who can “see things as they are”.

The bottom line is that this country was built by people who believe in self-reliance. It wasn’t built by people on welfare.

Thug

January 25th, 2012
8:47 am

ditto Mick…just like you

commoncents

January 25th, 2012
8:48 am

Taxpayer 8:42: “If Republicans do not want entitlements, then they should not accept them. — Warren Buffett”

I believe Buffett accepted those same entitlements. He is the one using every law on the books to shelter his money and pay very little taxes (all legally, of course) then complain that he doesn’t pay enough taxes

Ross Perot

January 25th, 2012
8:48 am

It finally ocurred to me what bothers me about Obama. He has all of these ideas but no clue as to how to get them to fruition. He is great for an idea “sound byte” but nothing really gets done. So he wants to create 3 more federal agencies, FORCE children to stay in school until they are until 18, force states to chip in and spend for his ideas on education, etc. So basically, more deficit spending on the government level, and more spending on the state level. More tax revenues needed from state and local government. All of this without mentioning Social Security and Medicare shortages, without producing a BUDGET!

Quagmire

January 25th, 2012
8:48 am

Good Morning Jay,

Great speech last night, I agree with Mick 100%. People will have selective hearing. It’s obvious that the right side of the isle will do nothing to help the American people unless it benefits the top 10%. Translation, nothing to help the American people. Hint, the Oil pipeline is not the only solution to help create jobs. It was funny to hear how republicans say that President Obama is dividing Americans. Look at any of the GoP debates, you will see an already divided nation.

PS…….Great Job to 2-Term President Barak Obama for taking care of the pirates and freeing the hostages. Please gop, debated with President Obama on foreign policy

poison pen

January 25th, 2012
8:49 am

Usin, He is still the leader and he needs to lead, regardless of the branch. You know this as does everyone else.
C’mon you can do better than that.

Whatever

January 25th, 2012
8:49 am

Look how stingy that terrible Romney is. Obama is so generous. We all need to be more like Obama.

——————-
“Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama and his wife Michelle gave $10,772 of the $1.2 million they earned from 2000 through 2004 to charities, or less than 1 percent, according to tax returns for those years released today by his campaign.

The Obamas increased the amount they gave to charity when their income rose in 2005 and 2006 after the Illinois senator published a bestselling book. The $137,622 they gave over those two years amounted to more than 5 percent of their $2.6 million income.

Romney charitable contributions

Tax year Taxable income Charitable donations Donations as % of income
2010 $21.7 million $2.98 million 13.73%
2011 (est) $20.9 million $4 million 19.14%”
—————–

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2012
8:50 am

Buffett uses the laws to minimize his taxes. Well there’s a shocker. If only everyone used the law like that, the Caymans would be a deserted islands paradise.

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 25th, 2012
8:50 am

“Poison – last time I checked, the president was in the EXECUTIVE branch, not the LEGISLATIVE …”

That is a classic example of distorting reality. Obama is the leader of the Democratic party and should be helping and advising his Democratic colleagues in getting some Legislation passed.

I

F. Sinkwich

January 25th, 2012
8:51 am

“You know as a DNC plant I have the power to have you removed to the gulag.”

You’re still mad that I outed you, Granny?

Georgia Voter

January 25th, 2012
8:51 am

I know that I am off topic on this one but I just read another article in the AJC and it seems as if our Georgia legislators do not like the idea of “Ethics Reform”. Shame on them!! Jay, is there any way that this can be pushed by the voters or is there some type of process that the voters can bypass the legislators and get the ethics reform question on a statewide ballot?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 25th, 2012
8:51 am

And if you, Jay, or any of the other Libs here had an ounce of honesty

Bruno, let’s be honest….your “truthiness” is relevant as proven the other day when you were unable to be honest.

This country was not built on welfare and is NOT currently supported by welfare. And it was NOT built on self-reliance. It was built on the backs of people who worked together in a spirit of community and cooperation…the railroads, the infrastructure, the factories and more. The self-reliance claim is absolute nonsense as is your welfare dog whistle.

USinUK

January 25th, 2012
8:51 am

Poison – “He is still the leader and he needs to lead, regardless of the branch”

he is a leader, yes … he is NOT a dictator … he can’t just do something because he wants it done – that’s not how the country is set up … and you know that.

poison pen

January 25th, 2012
8:51 am

Have a good day everyone, I’m out for another 3/6 months. I just couldn’t help myself this morning.

kayaker 71

January 25th, 2012
8:51 am

Nothing but grandiose ideas given in a campaign speech at the expense of the American electorate. Where were these grandiose ideas three years ago? Where was all of this tax reduction for business in 2009?. Now it’s election time and the threat is imminent. Gotta do something to convince America that they ought to give me a second term. Too little to late, Bozo. Bye, Bye…….

TaxPayer

January 25th, 2012
8:52 am

How many tax cuts does it take to pay off a 15 trillion dollar debt?

Scooter

January 25th, 2012
8:52 am

He’s trying to strengthen union’s ability to form and his National Labor Relations Board has shown there willingness strong-arm businesses.

I think that certainly has an impact on business decisions.

Bruno

January 25th, 2012
8:52 am

I don’t reject shared responsibility. I reject outrageous out-of-control government spending which has proven for decades that it doesn’t solve problems. I’m tired of throwing our money down a rat hole and stealing our children’s future.

Nice try, Gordon, but apparently you didn’t read Jay’s definitions above. Either you go along hook, line and sinker with all that Obama wants, or you are “selfish” and are “without concern for each other or future generations.”

IMO, the most patriotic thing we can do is to get our country back on sound financial footing. Cheating future generations out of their earnings before they were even born is the ultimate selfishness in my book. So suck on that, Libs.

USinUK

January 25th, 2012
8:54 am

“How many tax cuts does it take to pay off a 15 trillion dollar debt?”

is that like “how many holes does it take to fill the Albert Hall”

Stevie Ray

January 25th, 2012
8:54 am

JAY,

I don’t disagree with you to be sure but how is this rhetoric any different from all the other hot air he’s been blowing? I like this summary from the BEAST…

The State of the Union was a well-delivered pastiche of soaring words, vague goals, and modest initiatives. Howard Kurtz on why the president’s rhetoric is no longer enough.

You know as well as I that his speaking can’t replace lack of leadership…the core principle of leadership is to accept responsibility, get things done despite obstacles and take full responsibility instead of laying blame to get votes

Granny Godzilla

January 25th, 2012
8:55 am

F.Sinkwich

Oh heavens no….Not only am I a DNC plant, I’m also
Morgan Fairchild.

Mary Elizabeth

January 25th, 2012
8:55 am

F. Sinkwich @ 8:25

You would be wise – and prudent – to research and read thoroughly the Preamble to the U. S. Constitution before you make such false statements about me and about the word choice that our founders used in the Preamble to the U. S. Constitution. See below:
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“Preamble to the U. S. Constitution

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.”
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Notice the words “promote the general welfare” – the words I used, correctly, in my 8:26 am post.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/preamble

Mick

January 25th, 2012
8:55 am

keep @ 8:51

Agreed. So go ahead bruno, go for newt or romney as is your right, just remember that this socialist/welfare garbage is at least as untruthful as anything you deem likewise…

Gordon

January 25th, 2012
8:56 am

@Ross Perot 8:48,

You hit the nail on the head. As long as it sounds good, that’s enough. The rest is details.

Tax increases don’t even begin to close the deficit gulf? Details.

Inflation adjusted education spending doubled in last 40 years with no results? Details.

Absolutely no plan on tens of trillions in unfunded entitlements? Details

It all sounds good, and that’s what matters. Get with the program, man!

stranger in a strange land

January 25th, 2012
8:57 am

truth man @ 0836 – you might also have mentioned that he will be first president to visit all 57 sates

poison pen

January 25th, 2012
8:57 am

USinUK

January 25th, 2012
8:51 am

Poison – “He is still the leader and he needs to lead, regardless of the branch”

” he is a leader, yes … he is NOT a dictator … he can’t just do something because he wants it done – that’s not how the country is set up … and you know that.”

Usin, He pushed obamacare thru against the will of the majority of people in this countryHe got involved with Libya without going to Congress for approval.
He appointed several people to key posts without going thru the normal & accepted process.

Is this a leader or a dictator, you be the judge.

Last one, I promise, and I keep my promises, we won’t even go into Obamas broken promises, and if you don’t know what they were then I feel sorry for you.

Stevie Ray

January 25th, 2012
8:57 am

MICK,

Which of those Obama “first president to….” allegations are false?

Perhaps BO paid his own money for dog trainer at $102K I hope…He has certainly played the crony game the likes not being seen since his predecessor…Help me refute all these allegations please..

Bruno

January 25th, 2012
8:57 am

Great speech last night, I agree with Mick 100%. People will have selective hearing. It’s obvious that the right side of the isle will do nothing to help the American people unless it benefits the top 10%

Translation: Only the right side of the political aisle has selective hearing.

Good one, Quagmire.

There’s a reason Obama is the worst President in my lifetime. He believes his own BS so much that he sees no need to reach out to the Republicans, which is why little has gotten accomplished. For all of his faults, Bill Clinton was a smart politician who knew how to compromise. He and Newt got it done.

barking frog

January 25th, 2012
8:58 am

MaryE, General Welfare was promoted and served honorably
but has not gotten his medals yet.

Ross Perot

January 25th, 2012
8:58 am

How many tax cuts does it take to pay off a 15 trillion dollar debt?

Its really tough to say when Ospender won’t put a price tag on his agenda and is too incompetent to produce a budget!

Thug

January 25th, 2012
8:58 am

like the boost
bankruptcy(moral)our way

Andy Dufresne (from St Simons)

January 25th, 2012
8:59 am

well done. If I do everyone’s statements as well as you wrote this

dam good dawg

Jay

January 25th, 2012
8:59 am

the core principle of leadership is to accept responsibility, get things done despite obstacles and take full responsibility instead of laying blame to get votes.

And that’s exactly what he is doing. As he suggested last night, if Congress will not act, he will do everything within his power as executive to do what’s necessary. And for that the Republicans condemn him as a dictator.

In fact, judging from the comments there seem to be two dueling critiques on the right concerning Obama:

“If he were a real leader he would just go out and get things done”, contrasted with bitter complaints that “he’s a dictator who’s just going out and doing things on his own.”

Quagmire

January 25th, 2012
8:59 am

@Bruno – The bottom line is that this country was built by people who believe in self-reliance. It wasn’t built by people on welfare.

So Bruno, people with self-reliance built America, taking land for Native Americans, hundreds of years of free Slave labor, and Asian Americans building the railroads, Hispanic working in California. You’re right, it wasn’t welfare, because they didn’t get PAID, at least not the Slaves.

Bruno

January 25th, 2012
9:01 am

The Obamas increased the amount they gave to charity when their income rose in 2005 and 2006 after the Illinois senator published a bestselling book. The $137,622 they gave over those two years amounted to more than 5 percent of their $2.6 million income.

Whatever–Apparently you missed the post yesterday in which Welcome explained how private charity is self-serving and therefore worthless. Only government charity has the people’s best interests in mind.

Corey

January 25th, 2012
9:01 am

A little perspective, and you don’t have to take my word for it. Research it yourselves if you disagree. From 1982-1983 more than two years into Mr. Reagan’s first term the national unemployment rate was 10.1 per cent at the low end and peaked at 10.8 percent. For ten consecutive months lasting from Sept 1982 – June 1983 the national unemployment rate was in double digits. Conversely, when Mr. Carter left office the national unemployment rate was roughly 7.2 per cent. Under Mr. Obama we saw three consecutive months of double digit unemployment Oct-Dec 2009. Consider, we were in the greates worldwide economic downturn since the great depression. I’ll sit back a wait for the juvenile nonfactual rantings, peppered with Obozo or whatever, of the rabid right to fly.

Stevie Ray

January 25th, 2012
9:02 am

JAY,

Will increasing taxes on the top 10% really close the “inequality gap” or is this just talking points?

Not sure how much money this will raise…let’s say the burden of this group goes from 73% to 85%…does this close this much cited political talking point? Granted, any increase is useful to put toward further debt reduction, wasteful spending on increased entitlements…will that simple act make those in the 90% stop will all the woe is me, “inequality gap” jive talking?

All u need is love

January 25th, 2012
9:03 am

I’m a Lennonist

Steve - USA (I support "None Of The Above")

January 25th, 2012
9:04 am

Per our discussion from last night. Michelle Obama wasn’t wearing a dress from Target.

Didn’t see it live but it did look pretty in pictures.

Bruno

January 25th, 2012
9:04 am

So Bruno, people with self-reliance built America, taking land for Native Americans, hundreds of years of free Slave labor, and Asian Americans building the railroads, Hispanic working in California. You’re right, it wasn’t welfare, because they didn’t get PAID, at least not the Slaves.

You’re absolutely right, Quag. This is the absolute worst country in the world-that is until you look at every other country and realize our MO was little different from anywhere else.

If I were you , I would be ashamed to be an American.

Midori

January 25th, 2012
9:04 am

Mick,

I stopped at that social security card nonsense.

Those people are scary.

barking frog

January 25th, 2012
9:05 am

About those charitable deductions, I don’t consider it
charity when it’s deductible and I don’t care to participate
in the pet charities or religions of anyone by allowing
them to reduce their taxes by doing so.