Why the Gingrich win bodes poorly for the GOP
“Over the past few weeks we’ve seen a frontal assault on free enterprise. We expected this from President Obama. We didn’t anticipate some Republicans would join him. That’s a mistake for our party, and for our nation…. Those who pick up the weapons of the left today will find them turned against us tomorrow.”
– Mitt Romney
in his concession speech
in South Carolina Saturday
————————
Newt Gingrich’s impressive 12-point victory margin in South Carolina has touched off enormous doubt among national Republicans, much of it centered on Mitt Romney’s perceived weaknesses as a candidate.
To cite just one example of many, here’s Mark Steyn at NationalReview.com:
“Even if you don’t mind Romneycare, or the abortion flip-flop, or any of the rest, there’s a more basic problem: He’s not a natural campaigner, and on the stump he instinctively recoils from any personal connection with the voters…. For a guy running as a chief exec applying proven private-sector solutions, his campaign looks awfully like an unreformable government bureaucracy: big, bloated, overstaffed, burning money, slow to react, and all but impossible to change.”
While there’s certainly some truth to that, I think the Republican problem is much more deep-seated than the failings of a particular candidate. Newt Gingrich not only exposed Romney as a flawed politician; he exposed the fact that their economic message sucks.
Look at what happened: In a Republican primary in a deeply conservative state, Gingrich rode to victory by employing the Democratic line of attack against Mitt. What does that tell you about the power of that critique in the general election, among a much less conservative electorate?
(UPDATE at 11:50: Two new polls out of Florida:
Insider Advantage puts Gingrich up 34-26.
Rasmussen has Gingrich up 41-32.)
It’s really quite stunning, in ways that a lot of people don’t yet comprehend.
It’s true, of course, that the economy was just one of many factors that affected the outcome in South Carolina. For example, Gingrich outperformed Romney by 2-1 among evangelical voters, and given Newt’s personal history, that’s amazing. Romney’s religion had to have played a role in that kind of outcome.
However, when you sift through the exit-poll numbers on the economy, what you find is really compelling:
Seventy-nine percent of South Carolina voters told exit pollers that they were very worried about the nation’s economy; Gingrich carried that group by 14 percentage points.
Among the 11 percent of voters who said their own economic situation was improving, Romney did well, finishing in a virtual tie with Gingrich. But Romney and his message fell flat among those who said their economic status was static (Gingrich up 14 points) or slipping (Gingrich by 19 points).
Among income groups, Romney was competitive only among those said they made $100,000 or more, losing that demographic by only five percentage points. He lost by 15 points among everybody else.
Again, these are conservative voters in a conservative state, in an election cycle in which the economy will be the defining issue. And yet they clearly sided with a candidate who conducted “a frontal assault on free enterprise,” to use Romney’s description.
For the moment, Romney’s solution is to do as he did in his concession speech: whine about the treachery of a fellow Republican daring to advance a liberal critique. Within the confines of a GOP primary, that approach may have some temporary success.
But again, in a general election that’s not going to work.
Two more points: One, as Gingrich clearly recognizes, Romney’s personal history, his bearing and his personality all make him the perfect foil for a populist message. He epitomizes the Wall Street tycoon often central to that narrative, and it’s a weakness for which there is no cure.
Two, the lessons of South Carolina may have real consequences for House and Senate races as well. If the overall GOP message truly is as weak as it appears after Saturday — if it can be turned into a handicap even in a Republican primary — then Democratic prospects downticket may be brighter than they have seemed.
– Jay Bookman
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Joe Hussein Mama
January 23rd, 2012
7:19 pm
Doom — “Meltdown matti, You were just lucky like ya said. Yep. I do have high standards there. I like em hot. You sound mad because you don’t meet my standards. Hit the gym and tighten up, lose the anger, and get a personality and you might have a shot one day. But it would be a longshot.”
So, going home alone again, Doom?
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
7:20 pm
Enter your comments here
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2012
7:20 pm
Adam – “and have no actual basis to make the claim that I don’t understand science.”
it could be his hypothesis ….and any useful hypothesis will enable predictions
JK…couldn’t resist
F. Sinkwich
January 23rd, 2012
7:21 pm
Mick is oblivious.
Forgive them for they know not what they do
January 23rd, 2012
7:21 pm
Jm: “Is this the same newt that endorsed cap and trade, that supported the individual mandate?”
yep
“Is this the same newt that called the previous republican house “radical”?”
yep
“Is this the one that called Paul Ryan’s plan radical extremism?”
yep
“Pardon me. Newt isn’t a conservative”
That’s ok. He plays one on tv. And he sure does know how to piss off the libs.
So he’s ok with me.
He’s a fraud
josef
January 23rd, 2012
7:21 pm
“Get down off that cross and help us find these eggs, Newt.”
–Thomas Jefferson
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
7:21 pm
“Mossad should assassinate Obama? Really? Talk about a one way ticket to no longer being an ally!”
Trust me. They would make it look like a bunch of Muslims did it! Ker-plunk!
0311/1811
January 23rd, 2012
7:22 pm
Adam and Jm:
What he said the other day was repulsive (although editorials in this country say it frequently that, “the CIA or SEALS should take out so and so Head of State”.
Most on here were calling on his immediate arrest by the Secret Service.
Most point was that it was not a “direct” or even “implied” threat. INTENT is the key. He was merely stating watch options there were for the P.M. of Israel ………. again repulsive.
It’s almost like a threat made in a movie or book. No intent ……… just part of the script.
Ultimately, it’s up to the Justice Department but I say it would be a tough case for a conviction.
Paul
January 23rd, 2012
7:22 pm
pleasant evening, all -
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
7:22 pm
Fish Sandwich alert!
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
7:24 pm
Sink, your drain is clogged…
Bruno
January 23rd, 2012
7:24 pm
Since you understand the science so much better, why don’t you educate me.
It’s pretty simple, Adam. Climatology is still in its infancy. The computer models developed so far are over-simplistic, and have been shown to have poor predictive powers.
In case you haven’t been following any of my posts, Antarctic ice core samples from the last 400,000 years show regular patterns of temperature ebbs and flows which are correlated with increases and decreases in the atmospheric concentration of CO2. But, the role of the various greenhouse gases is still not fully understood, nor is the long term effect of regular changes in the Earth’s orbit along with regular changes in solar activity. As such, it’s waaaaay too early to be making any definitive statements about causation. Should this stop us from reducing the pollution of our atmosphere and water?? Heck no, but don’t be trying to sell me a bill of goods either.
0311/1811
January 23rd, 2012
7:24 pm
Excuse me: I was typing to fast @ 7:22
“My” point was
“which” options
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
7:26 pm
Bruno: keep singing that song when New York is the new Venice and Florida disappears!
For verily, that is the only thing that will convince you cons!
Jm
January 23rd, 2012
7:26 pm
Scout 7:22 thx
asdfjkl;
January 23rd, 2012
7:26 pm
It will be interesting to see whether or not Romney can adjust his debating skills after the pressure has been put on him. So far he hasn’t been able to handle the pressure, and Newt has.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 23rd, 2012
7:27 pm
josef…. that Newt pickup line may have more success than the one we saw used here today:
“I want you to want me. I need you to need me. I’d love for you to love me. I’m begging you to beg me. Failing to put on my big boy pants. Put on my wife beater shirt. I’m feelin’ all alone without a friend, you know I feel like dying. I’m a failure at making you go crying.
Jm
January 23rd, 2012
7:28 pm
Debate tonight
Again…..
0311/1811
January 23rd, 2012
7:28 pm
Jm:
Although he will definitely get a Secret Service interview and be in their system from now on.
TaxPayer
January 23rd, 2012
7:29 pm
Like I said, if you are truly interested in Climate Change, try this and and this for starters. Others opinions are just that.
Jm
January 23rd, 2012
7:29 pm
9pm
Fireworks
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2012
7:30 pm
Sooth for FL to disappear the worlds oceans would have to raise some 350 ft….that’s a hell of a lot of ice
Jm
January 23rd, 2012
7:31 pm
Scout
No doubt…. Maybe some communications monitoring too…..
0311/1811
January 23rd, 2012
7:32 pm
HOPE AND CHANGE MEETS REALITY !
Headline (CBS): “New Yorker: Memos show Obama scaled back his ambitions”
“Hundreds of internal White House memos obtained by The New Yorker magazine show that President Obama scaled back many of his proposals as he faced the grim reality of a deeply partisan Washington he pledged to change as a candidate.
The New Yorker article, published Monday, described in detail a president who had big legislative aspirations but is also concerned with protecting his image.
“The White House staff memos show Obama scaling back his proposals in the face of the business lobby, designing a health-care bill to attract support from doctors, rejecting schemes from his aides that could be caricatured by the right, and in dozens of other ways making the unpleasant choices of governing in a system defined by its constraints,” reporter Ryan Lizza wrote in the piece.
White House Spokesperson Jay Carney had little to say in response. “Let history judge the results,” he said. “
Bruno
January 23rd, 2012
7:32 pm
So, will you and platinum black ever venture down to these here parts?
Mick–I’ve got PB on the line and she says that we’ll meet you down at the topless beach.
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
7:32 pm
cat
Since we are at sea level down here in south florida, a major tsunami event would wreak havoc…
0311/1811
January 23rd, 2012
7:33 pm
Jm:
I doubt it. Way too much paperwork for that type of warrant.
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
7:33 pm
All of us progressives can only hope that Gnute wins the nomination. Obama’s a shoe-in! Go, Gnute, go! Rip Romney to shreds!
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
7:35 pm
**Mick–I’ve got PB on the line and she says that we’ll meet you down at the topless beach.**
That’s funny, they are all topless on miami beach, the law just gives it a pass, not that I’m complaining…
Jm
January 23rd, 2012
7:36 pm
Cat.
Second mick
Most of FL isn’t more than 20 feet above sea level
And a lot of it is 2 feet above sea level
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2012
7:40 pm
Mick, I agree….but the comment was addressed to Sooth’s comment that GCC would make New York like Venice and FL would disappear
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
7:40 pm
With a six-foot rise in sea level, it would mean there is only 44% of the developed area still above normal high tide. Of that 44% left, 73% is less than 2 feet above sea level. South Florida has become an incredibly risky place to live.
Since 1930, South Florida and the global ocean has had about a 10-inch rise of sea level. That rise is mostly because of warming of the ocean.
Hmmmm . . . 10 inches since 1930. Gives one pause, doesn’t it? I don’t remember hearing about that on Focked News! Do you?
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
7:41 pm
Open invitation to any of you bloggers who make it to miami, I’ll be glad to steer you to the best places and avoid the worst. One day I might actually hook up with jm for a few drinks and some political fisticuffs…
Bruno
January 23rd, 2012
7:43 pm
Like I said, if you are truly interested in Climate Change, try this and and this for starters. Others opinions are just that.
Now, on the other hand, Adam, if you’re looking for some Mickey Mouse self-validating BS, then I suggest going to TP’s links.
Bruno
January 23rd, 2012
7:44 pm
Open invitation to any of you bloggers who make it to miami, I’ll be glad to steer you to the best places and avoid the worst. One day I might actually hook up with jm for a few drinks and some political fisticuffs…
We’ll definitely give you a shout if we make it down to SoBe, Mick. We’re planning a trip to SF to see one of my sisters in August, but are open otherwise. The hard part will be to get a few days off.
Bud Wiser
January 23rd, 2012
7:44 pm
Frankly I don’t care who wins.
I just want a President that doesn’t bow to foreign oil thugs and sheiks any more.
Thats all I want.
That…..and this flashlight.
I just want a President that doesn’t bow to foreign oil thugs and sheiks any more, and this flashlight…..and a fish sandwich.
That’s all I want.
I just want a President that doesn’t bow to foreign oil thugs and sheiks any more, and this flashlight, and a fish sandwich…….and a beer.
That’s all I want.
I just want a President that doesn’t bow to foreign oil thugs and sheiks any more, and this flashlight, and a fish sandwich and a beer.
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2012
7:45 pm
BTW – how does GCC cause tsunamis?
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
7:46 pm
bruno
Here’s one for the brotherhood; If you ever make it down here there is an old blues bar called tobacco road, it’s the oldest bar in miami. Strictly rock and blues, a real gem of a place that stays open till 5am…
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
7:49 pm
cat
It doesn’t, but mother nature doesn’t always follow the rule book…
Midori
January 23rd, 2012
7:51 pm
I’d like to dedicate this to Thulsa: http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480×480/403313_243001789107204_126894987384552_562959_1796218969_n.jpg
JamVet
January 23rd, 2012
7:52 pm
Topless in Miami sounds better than Sleepless in Seattle!
Man, I could sure use a road trip.
Iterative, but some damn fine power pop, by one of the unappreciated masters of that sweet SoCal sound…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nLiQBV6A7c
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
7:52 pm
midori
JamVet
January 23rd, 2012
7:53 pm
Midori, that is damn funny.
But I’m still partial to Bugs’ take on it…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 23rd, 2012
7:53 pm
Midori — That’s the sign!
Bruno
January 23rd, 2012
7:54 pm
Out of curiosity, Midori, do you ever have anything to offer other than one-line insults?? Seems like you could do better…….
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
7:57 pm
Somehow I mixed up the links. Sorry.
http://earthsky.org/earth/harold-wanless-on-sea-level-rise-in-south-florida
Here is the correct link.
Jm
January 23rd, 2012
7:58 pm
Mick
If we get together for drinks, it would probably be advisable to avoid tequila
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
7:58 pm
jamvet
Forget the price of admission, you really should catch roger waters this second time around, it is the most technologically advanced show out there. I really only like about five out of the twenty two songs off the wall. He does some really amazing effects to keep you going, there’s nothing out there remotely comparable – take it from a brother…
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2012
8:00 pm
Mick — It doesn’t, but mother nature doesn’t always follow the rule book…
that’s how some define a miracle…not in the case of tsunamis mind you…just just in the sense of the crazy high odds outlier
Midori
January 23rd, 2012
8:00 pm
for you Bruno: http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/p480×480/402237_313840178658875_131437750232453_891305_1290073627_n.jpg
in your case, i’ll make it 2 lines
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
8:00 pm
jm
I don’t drink tequilla – ever, I consider it poison. I’m a lightweight when it comes to drinking, there are other alternatives in my book….
TaxPayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:01 pm
Now, on the other hand, Adam, if you’re looking for some Mickey Mouse self-validating BS, then I suggest going to TP’s links.
Bruno,
Quit pretending to actually know something about climatology. You obviously do not. But just to help you learn that lesson, by all means contact the people at this site and explain to them the problems you have with their simplistic climate models. Go for it.
Kamchak
January 23rd, 2012
8:01 pm
Out of curiosity, Midori, do you ever have anything to offer other than one-line insults?? Seems like you could do better…….
I’m sure we all could do better.
Is it your contention that you are above reproach?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 23rd, 2012
8:01 pm
Out of curiosity, Midori, do you ever have anything to offer other than one-line insults
This from the guy who has been hurling insults since this morning at Stands and Joe Mama? I can attest that I have seen Midori offer a variety of comments and contributions to many threads.
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:01 pm
Midori: I have somehow managed to mend my broken heart after you dumped me. I only hope you and your boyfriend are happy.
Midori
January 23rd, 2012
8:02 pm
yeah Kammy — I noticed all the irony dripping from his post.
First I thought it was perma frost.
Midori
January 23rd, 2012
8:03 pm
his friends hate me Sooth
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
8:03 pm
Hey Jay – we know you’re out there and when the timing is right the bookman blogging convention could be a real hoot….. or death and dismemberment at the very least – go for it…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
January 23rd, 2012
8:04 pm
Sooth, I hear Newt is looking.
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2012
8:04 pm
Delay the Keystone pipeline for political considerations. This man has no clue to governing as president and competently managing his administration. Now this.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/23/white-house-delay-budget-proposal-infuriates-republicans/
TaxPayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:04 pm
Out of curiosity, Midori, do you ever have anything to offer other than one-line insults?? Seems like you could do better…….
I see Micky Mouse left Midori a message too.
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
8:05 pm
recon
I just love it when president obama infuriates republicans…..karma baby…
Jm
January 23rd, 2012
8:06 pm
Recon
O in incompetent
Adam
January 23rd, 2012
8:06 pm
Bruno: CO2 as causation of greenhouse effects is pretty well established. Aside from that your whole post is saying exactly the same stuff I already knew about. There are plenty of little ways one might say “well, we’re not 100% sure of all the possible causes or how much of an effect” etc etc. And that is true, but as you said
Should this stop us from reducing the pollution of our atmosphere and water?? Heck no,
and on this we agree. It would be nice if others did too, but too often the things that you have indicated above are often used as reasons not to accept that the climate is warming due to human causes, which is then used to say because it’s “not real” we don’t have to do anything about it. That is quite dangerous.
Midori
January 23rd, 2012
8:07 pm
lol – there goes Del clutching his pearls again
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/p480×480/408173_348101511886712_336320923064771_1258584_6249968_n.jpg
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2012
8:07 pm
“Out of curiosity, Midori, do you ever have anything to offer other than one-line insults?? Seems like you could do better…….”
You sure about that?…yeah I didn’t think so.
Erwin's cat
January 23rd, 2012
8:08 pm
Taxpayer – “their simplistic climate models”
You do understand where the butterfly effect came from don’t you?…it’s not dumbed down to “too simplistic” it’s that we don’t have the capability (yet) to make a model as sophisticated or complex as required…everything else is too simplistic to coin a phrase
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:09 pm
“Sooth, I hear Newt is looking.”
Yeah, but I just don’t have the time or the patience to get mah har looking like that.
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
8:09 pm
Out for a bit…
Midori
January 23rd, 2012
8:10 pm
*pointing at Del*
you ole pearl clutcher you!!
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2012
8:10 pm
Mick,
Doesn’t infuriate me. I only think we need to get him out of the W.H. More objective than subjective.
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:11 pm
Midori: I’m getting worried about you. You’re getting “nelly-bouts” as mean as me! Preach it!
Bruno
January 23rd, 2012
8:12 pm
Or, Adam, if you prefer straight-up Science Fiction, then I recommend Sooth’s link.
BTW, where are you, Adam?? You asked a question and I answered.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2012
8:13 pm
“Perhaps your obtuseness…” Aaaaaand then I quit reading.
Nice job though with the big 3 syllable word keep. I didn’t think you had it in ya. Bravo!
“I can attest that I have seen Midori offer a variety of comments and contributions to many threads.”-keep up
Keep up,
You almost got it right but I was able to finish the deal for you-you only lacked one word in closing in out- that’s why they call me the closer.
It should read- I can attest that I have seen Midori offer a variety of nasty comments and contributions to many threads.
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2012
8:13 pm
you ole pearl clutcher you!!
Must be a far-left bumper sticker. Midorii would be lost without them.
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:13 pm
Those long-time Atlanta residents will remember Gary McKee’s famous line: “I love what you’ve done to your hair!”
Midori
January 23rd, 2012
8:13 pm
yo, Del!!
was going to lend you some of my pearls, but I don’t have any to spare.
I do have extras of these, tho: http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407464_329172153781074_278916238806666_1077448_358086707_n.jpg
Kamchak
January 23rd, 2012
8:14 pm
Midori: I have somehow managed to mend my broken heart after you dumped me.
Speak for yourself.
I. Am. CRUSHED.
JamVet
January 23rd, 2012
8:14 pm
I like that second poster too, Midori.
And I remember the bad old days when a certain foursome – all of whom are gone now, thank gawd – would all gang up on you simultaneously and you would stand your ground and give back as good as you got. I admired that about you. We are alike in that regard; when it’s four to one, we consider it an even fight!
Mick
January 23rd, 2012
8:14 pm
recon
Didn’t mean you, just the repub politicians….remember, even though I am an admitted political junkie, I take this all with a grain of salt…
JamVet
January 23rd, 2012
8:15 pm
The evil censorbot is making work overtime. WTF?
Ever since I discovered that eponymous record of theirs, I fell in love with Buckingham’s work. And I guess I was always in love with Stevie. That voice of hers just made a lot of us boys go wild…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApAdKVh_Oec
Midori
January 23rd, 2012
8:16 pm
We are alike in that regard; when it’s four to one, we consider it an even fight!
too bad Thulsa and Del combined make only one
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2012
8:20 pm
Midori has blind date admirers. Blinded by an ideology that places baggage on their rational behavior. Oh well I won’t get into that joke.
Kokeitha
January 23rd, 2012
8:21 pm
I lived in rural SC for years. The folks are different, leave it at that. Don’t put too much stock in the outcome of their GOP primary, Newt would’ve won it regardless of who else was in the running. Now that the primaries are re-entering the real world you’ll see quite different results I believe.
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
“After all, everybody knows ONLY REALLY SEXY MEN demean women’s bodies in public in order to feel better about themselves. You must be SMOKIN’!’
Matti is a psychologist? Who knew? Do I need to feel better bout myself. Nope. I feel perty good. I get all these compliments from keep up who spends his time fantasizing about what I must look like in a pair of speedos. Its an unhealthy obsession and I realize its a little bit weird to have someone like keep obsessed with my bod. But I’m comfortable in my sexuality so I’m good with it.
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
“I take this all with a grain of salt…”
Mick, good for you, me too. It is fun though when you you’re feeling a bit bored.
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:23 pm
Well, Ol’ Soothsayer’s done fired up his cauldron and I’m perpaired to make a perdiction:
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn and cauldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the cauldron boil and bake;
Eye of Gnute, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork, and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg, and howlet’s wing,
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Ol’ Gnute’s gonna win the RepugNOcan’t nomination hands down.
Then, he’s going to get his ice whooped come November!
josef
January 23rd, 2012
8:24 pm
Kokeitha
The Romany Lady says don’t bet on it….
jm
January 23rd, 2012
8:25 pm
random way off topic
the mini-cokes in glass bottles that coke brought back a couple years back….. awesome
love those things
Thulsa Doom
January 23rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Recon,
I gotta disagree. I think Midori would be more lost without her retreaded movie quotes than her bumper sticker slogans. Its close but either way she clearly is lost.
josef
January 23rd, 2012
8:26 pm
Sooth
No liver of blaspheming Jew…you disappoint me…
PlatinumBlack
January 23rd, 2012
8:26 pm
Bruno
January 23rd, 2012
6:29 pm
Of course, we’re limited to the imagination here in blogland, but I’m seeing Matti as a sizzlin’ hot redhead with dreamy blue eyes, Doom…….
Toss in smart as a whip and she presents a rather nice package.
Of course, I’m off the market for a while, maybe permanently…….
yep. He’s all yours, Matti.
Ciao.
TaxPayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:29 pm
cat,
I am aware of the limitations in predicting weather versus modeling climate change. Why do you ask.
Kamchak
January 23rd, 2012
8:29 pm
Uh, oh.
Recon 0311 2533
January 23rd, 2012
8:30 pm
Thulsa Doom,
It is indeed sad either way but as the old saying goes “she makes her own bed and has to lay in it.” Loneliness is a sad affliction that is mostly self inflicted.
Soothsayer
January 23rd, 2012
8:32 pm
“No liver of blaspheming Jew…you disappoint me…”
Let me run back over that recipe again!
0311/1811
January 23rd, 2012
8:32 pm
Midori:
What’s the latest on Paterno? Is he dead yet?
One
January 23rd, 2012
8:32 pm
I dont care who the GOP puts up against Obama. A dog A goat a blooming idiot? Im not voting for Obama again
0311/1811
January 23rd, 2012
8:33 pm
Recon 0311 2533 :
Corpsman Up !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl9omx-Gm_g&feature=related
josef
January 23rd, 2012
8:34 pm
One
A dog, a goat a blooming idiot? Newt’s your boy all right…