A big Gingrich win would be GOP nightmare

UPDATE: That was an impressive win. A 14-point margin for Newt Gingrich is probably more than the former speaker could dream of a week ago, and certainly was unimagined by the Romney camp. A lot of Republican Party officials will not sleep well tonight.

The voting booths close at 7 p.m. in South Carolina, and given movement in the most recent polls, it wouldn’t be surprising if the networks name Newt Gingrich the winner shortly thereafter.

If that happens — and particularly if Gingrich can push his margin into double digits, which seems plausible — the Republicans have themselves a serious problem. Newt will come out of South Carolina with the smell of napalm in his nostrils, and we all know what napalm smells like: victory.

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The greater the Gingrich margin, the more it will validate his strategy of attacking Mitt Romney on the issue of his Bain-gotten wealth. As his high-school yearbook photo tells you, this is a man with a grandiose sense of destiny, and the closer he gets to seeing it realized, the more aggressive he will become.

And as I’ve pointed out before, the Republican establishment will have only itself to blame. They have trained their base to turn up its nose at even the slightest aroma of moderation. They have fed it on resentment, and instilled it with a deep disdain for the media. In short, they have turned it into an audience utterly susceptibel to a man of Newt’s talents and eccentricities.

On the other hand, if Romney wins, this thing’s all but over. We’ll know in a few hours.

– Jay Bookman

1,053 comments Add your comment

getalife

January 21st, 2012
5:04 pm

I think the fig newton will win SC .

josef

January 21st, 2012
5:07 pm

All I can say, is if that (descriptive deleted) goes in, G-d save THIS queen!

getalife

January 21st, 2012
5:15 pm

How ya feeling josef?

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
5:17 pm

“These aren’t the droids you’re looking for.”
–Thomas Jefferson

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:19 pm

Josef – sorry to say this as I have always liked and respected the South Carolinians I have come in contact with, but WTF are they thinking?

horse

January 21st, 2012
5:19 pm

Delicious, isn’t it? The idea of Newt as the GOP’s nominee is such a gift.

ProgressivePeach

January 21st, 2012
5:19 pm

GOP’s about to reap the whirlwind. I’ve got my popcorn ready for the battle. In a political party where concession, moderation and cooperation are evil, there’s no way they rally around a candidate this November. Obama 2012 is looking pretty good. Now if the Democrats can just get their act together, they can get some effective majorities in the House and perhaps even the Senate, too.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:20 pm

‘You Mr. Gingrinch are no John Kennedy’

- Marilyn Monroe

Jay

January 21st, 2012
5:21 pm

“There’s no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and that things happened in my life that were not appropriate.”

– Thomas Jefferson

ByteMe

January 21st, 2012
5:21 pm

It’ll be Newt by at least 6 tonight.

The thing is, he’s still going to have trouble beating Romney in any state that didn’t secede. Pass the popcorn, this could go on a while… and I don’t mean that in a good way.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 21st, 2012
5:22 pm

Well, I want old Newt to win and then go on and take the White House. The reason is because this Obama is as boring as watching paint dry. I mean, at least he could pinch a intern on the fanny or something just to let us know he’s human and a real manly man.

We won’t have that problem with President Newt. No sirree. There’ll be women and maybe some men squalling about getting punctured during a visit to the Oval Office. Heck, after awhile the Oval Office could get to be the most loneliest place in America. Just think of how sales of the scandal mags would pick up. And the t-shirts. Just think of the millions of people that would be walking around with a t-shirt reading “I went to see the White House and got laid.”

Anyhow, I got to get ready for a big night up at Billy Bob’s. Have a good night everybody.

detritusUSA

January 21st, 2012
5:23 pm

Radical republicans, you rained ruin on the South after the civil war. You brought America the “gilded age” and the great depression. Now you quite possibly will bring the end of America. Greed is bad, unregulated greed is evil. As my grandparents often said, republicans are the party of the rich. They care nothing for ordinary people. I say republicans are evil people.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:23 pm

Then why do you care? Isn’t that what you want or are you whistling in the dark?

Hummmmm ………………. ?

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:24 pm

Jay – let me guess. you like the Nutster even less than I do.

At least he wasn’t your Rep :-)

ByteMe

January 21st, 2012
5:24 pm

Hey Mitt, I know this hot former governor that can help you out…

– John McCain

Pea Tardy

January 21st, 2012
5:26 pm

Callista is hot

TaxPayer

January 21st, 2012
5:27 pm

Perhaps this new Republican Tea Party is having second thoughts about being the party of the 1 percent… Nah.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:27 pm

‘I can see Russia through my glass navel’

– Newt Gingrich

josef

January 21st, 2012
5:28 pm

How far have we strayed from the path of rightousness in this country? When the evangelicals can bring themselves to vote for and support as their leader this type of moral degenerate. Forget what an ignorant, grandiose and pompously arrogant quasi-literate windbag he is for the moment. His life has been the paragon of everything that those wanting to claim they are out to restore our sense of values say they stand against. Have they (we) sunk to that level? The worst part of it is the pride with which he doesn’t deny his moral turpitude “in the past.” Well, the past is all we have to go by and the present doesn’t seem to be much of a change. However, we can take a modicum of solace in the Sciptures,

“Pride goeth before destruction: and the spirit is lifted up before a fall.”
–Proverbs 16:18, Douay-Rheims Bible, that of his current confession

I ta

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:28 pm

josef:

Just for you ………… interesting. :o

Deuteronomy 17:

“14 When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, “Let us set a king over us like all the nations around us,”

15 be sure to appoint over you a king the LORD your God chooses. He must be from among your fellow Israelites. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not an Israelite.

16 The king, moreover, must not acquire great numbers of horses for himself or make the people return to Egypt to get more of them, for the LORD has told you, “You are not to go back that way again.”

17 He must not take many wives, or his heart will be led astray. He must not accumulate large amounts of silver and gold.

18 When he takes the throne of his kingdom, he is to write for himself on a scroll a copy of this law, taken from that of the Levitical priests.

19 It is to be with him, and he is to read it all the days of his life so that he may learn to revere the LORD his God and follow carefully all the words of this law and these decrees

20 and not consider himself better than his fellow Israelites and turn from the law to the right or to the left. Then he and his descendants will reign a long time over his kingdom in Israel.”

CJ

January 21st, 2012
5:28 pm

Any time the ethically-challenged, thrice-married, serial adulterer Gingrich lectures an audience or writes about the “counter-cultural” left, family values, the importance of protecting traditional marriage, the role of faith in America, and the values endowed by “Our Creator”, he commits an act blasphemy.

It’s because he worked too hard? He asked God for forgiveness? I call b.s. And anybody who doesn’t see through this clown, especially after all the snake oil he’s sold us for decades, is a fool.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:29 pm

josef:

And what about Bill Clinton?

CJ

January 21st, 2012
5:29 pm

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:30 pm

Josef – I will include you with Jay in my earlier statement

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:30 pm

JamVet

January 21st, 2012
5:30 pm

“I went to see the White House and got laid.”

Hysterical.

Even with his long, hard, big, fat………………….wallet, I’m amazed that any woman would ever let that Porky Pig lookalike touch them, much less………………..ew!

As for this seemingly endless traveling circus, it sure isn’t the same without the other serial groper, the global cooling expert and the crazy eyed chick in the race, but it still is pretty damn funny…

I don't get it

January 21st, 2012
5:32 pm

Democrats hate the evil rich and have wealth envy has been the republican mantra for the last year or so; but Newt attacks Romney’s wealth and his stint at Bain and his supporters rally behind him? I don’t think the republicans themselves know what it is in which they believe. This is really getting to be hilarious.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
5:32 pm

They have trained their base to turn up its nose at even the slightest aroma of moderation. They have fed it on resentment, and instilled it with a deep disdain for the media.

We see it here daily. Posters who cannot distinguish between a “source” and what is reported. The absurd claims that “Obama was not properly vetted” which I take as their recognition that Fox, Brietbart and so many other organizations which most would consider “acceptable” apparently don’t have reporters, investigators and others who can report or investigate. Either they are suggesting NBC, ABC, CBS, the NY Times and others are the only real investigative and reporting sources and their Fox is not up to the task apparently or they only know what they have been told with no ability to perform even a basic assessment of the claim. They doom themselves to ignorance.

josef

January 21st, 2012
5:33 pm

ByteMe

Any state that didn’t secede, you say? That’s what happens when you forget history…you wind up with Carpetbaggers… :-)

getalife

Much better, thank you kindly….

Common sense

Methinks the geneology blue haired biddies in the family are about to start playing down the Charleston roots… :-)

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
5:35 pm

Forget what an ignorant, grandiose and pompously arrogant quasi-literate windbag he is for the moment.

If only!

ByteMe

January 21st, 2012
5:35 pm

Democrats hate the evil rich and have wealth envy has been the republican mantra for the last year or so;

People need to start thinking in more than 2 directions. There’s not just left-right. There’s also up-down, as in elitism vs. populism. Right now, Obama isn’t going left or right, he’s going down, while Mitt is stuck moving right and up. Which do you think is going to have the more riled up constituents come November, the far right elitists or the centrist populists?

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:35 pm

1 John 1:9

“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

Just sayin’

JamVet

January 21st, 2012
5:35 pm

Newt is the political version of Jimmy Swaggert.

A made for TV fraud who’s made big money off of incredibly gullible rubes…

ByteMe

January 21st, 2012
5:37 pm

Newt, if you didn’t notice, is also moving down toward populism, which is why he’s moving up in the polls.

josef

January 21st, 2012
5:38 pm

Scout

The Deuteronomy pretty much sums up why he ain’t G-d’s chosen candidate…

And Clinton…?

He ain’t runnin for President and he didn’t come sticking his nose in my bedroom calling me out in the name of G-d while he was doing his philandering…

CJ

January 21st, 2012
5:39 pm

1 CJ 1:9

“Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

Just sayin’

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:39 pm

I wonder what position Callista is going to have if Newt EVER gets to the WH :-)

josef

January 21st, 2012
5:41 pm

Scout

“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

Which is, no doubt, why ole Newt left the Reformation and joined with the Papists in the Counter Reformation…as so many Protestants like to say, “a quick couple of Hail Mary’s, a c-note in the collection plate and all is forgiven…”

Jus sayin…

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
5:42 pm

josef: Forget what an ignorant, grandiose and pompously arrogant quasi-literate windbag he is for the moment. His life has been the paragon of everything that those wanting to claim they are out to restore our sense of values say they stand against. Have they (we) sunk to that level?

Short answer. Yes.

JamVet

January 21st, 2012
5:43 pm

Leroy boy is that you?
I thought your azz groping days were through

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98zq9bsX-Sg

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:43 pm

Josef – This papist thinks he is lower than whale shyte meself :-)

Hey DDR

Adam

January 21st, 2012
5:44 pm

I hope he wins

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:44 pm

Good for them !

Headline (The Washington Times) : “Arizona strikes back: State investigates feds over gun-running”

“Arizona’s state legislature will open its own investigation into the Obama administration’s disgraced gun-running program, known as “Fast and Furious,” the speaker of the state House said Friday.

Speaker Andy Tobin created the committee, and charged it with looking at whether the program broke any state laws — raising the possibility of state penalties against those responsible for the operation.

It’s a turnaround from the rest of the immigration issue, where the federal government has sued to block the state’s own set of laws.

A law requiring businesses to check new workers’ legal status was upheld by the Supreme Court last year, and the court has agreed to hear the case of Arizona’s crackdown law that makes being an illegal immigrant a state crime and gives state and local police the power to enforce that law.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/jan/21/arizona-strikes-back-state-investigates-feds-over-/

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
5:46 pm

Ooohh, a Moonie Times rabbit hole!

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:46 pm

josef:

Only God knows and that’s the way it should be.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
5:47 pm

Sure hope AZ investigates the Bush Admin for the essentially same program (different name). Cheney could use some jail time.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:48 pm

Kammie:

You shouldn’t say things like that about a state legislature.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:48 pm

Good Fight:

Call ‘em ……. ask to testify !

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:48 pm

Scout

Only God knows and that’s the way it should be

———————————————

That is true, but God isn’t registered to vote in this primary

josef

January 21st, 2012
5:48 pm

For the good Protestant voters of South Carolina,

“Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.”

The Gospel of Luke, 23;24 King James Bible

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
5:50 pm

Keep: Posters who cannot distinguish between a “source” and what is reported. The absurd claims that “Obama was not properly vetted”

Don’t forget the part where he wasn’t even born in the U.S. or the claim that he is still a British Citizen and/or a citizen of Kenya.

which I take as their recognition that Fox, Brietbart and so many other organizations which most would consider “acceptable” apparently don’t have reporters, investigators and others who can report or investigate.

Don’t forget about the CIA or the FBI …

They doom themselves to ignorance

They also doom themselves as well as their children into perpetual servitude and serfdom. HOw they can’t see that is a real head scratcher.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
5:50 pm

You shouldn’t say things like that about a state legislature.

I didn’t.

You should work on your reading comprehension.

Just sayin’.

josef

January 21st, 2012
5:51 pm

Common sense…

Believe me, I do understand how you Papists must feel about getting saddled with y’all’s share of nut cases…

JamVet

January 21st, 2012
5:53 pm

After seeing that collection of caustic clowns in the Charleston audience, I’m pretty that they will choose the disgusting degenerate Leroy of Cobb…

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
5:54 pm

I LOVE IT WHEN A PLAN COMES TOGETHER !

Headline (New York Times): “Justices’ Texas Redistricting Ruling Likely to Help G.O.P.”

WASHINGTON — “The Supreme Court on Friday rejected elections maps drawn by a federal court in Texas that had favored Democratic candidates there.

The unanimous decision said that redistricting is primarily a job for elected state officials and that the lower court had not paid enough deference to maps drawn by the State Legislature, which is controlled by Republicans. The justices sent the case back to the lower court, extending the uncertainty surrounding this major voting-rights case.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/21/us/supreme-court-rejects-judge-drawn-maps-in-texas-redistricting-case.html?_r=1&hp

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
5:55 pm

Hi Common!

Adam – Me too. :lol: :lol:

josef

January 21st, 2012
5:59 pm

“So, tell me, Malka, for this we left Poland”
–Thomas Jeffersonberg

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
6:01 pm

anybody read this bullcrap from a georgia judge:

Georgia Judge Orders President To Appear AT Hearing

Now the whole word will know how utterly STOOOOPID the officials of this state are. We’ll all have to walk around with a bag over our heads whenver we leave the state.

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:02 pm

DDR, ADAM

Be careful what you ask for. You just might get it. And with the way this season’s been going, it wouldn’t surprise me one whit if the village idiots didn’t pull it off…he may well be the “g-damning” of America prayed for from the other side’s pulpit heretics…

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:04 pm

DDR

Mississippi is rejoicing, however…finally they can hold their heads up and say “well, thank G-d we ain’t Georgia!” :-)

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
6:06 pm

“My daughter! O my ducats! O my daughter…”
– Thomas Jefferson

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:08 pm

DebbieDoRight:

I read it and here is a couple of points:

1) The president will not have to show up personally. That is already case law.

2) As I understand it, the case is not about where the president was born (that has been decided) but instead what is the Constitutional definition of a “natural born citizen”.

3) I hope this case works its way to the Supreme Court NOT for this election but in time for the 2016 election. Since we will continue in the future to have candidates for president who have issues in their background, citizenship of parent(s), etc., we need to resolve this issue once and for all.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
6:10 pm

Soothsayer

January 21st, 2012
6:10 pm

Gnute winning in SC would be a dream come true!

No other numb-skull RepugNOcan’t candidate will be as easy to beat in November.

Prayse Jaysus-ah! The abomination of the Gnute will visit itself on the abomination of the RepugNOcan’t Party.

And they will be great gnashin’ of teeth (if you got any) and great wailin’!

You can’t make this stuff up!

Drink it up, RepugNOcan’ts! It’s you! It’s all you!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
6:11 pm

DDR, I posted that yesterday….shocking isn’t it. I have not been able to find a whole lot on the briefs and the decision but I suspect its an administrative law judge who seems to have made a very foolish decision. I cannot imagine any reason that the President should be required to come to Georgia to testify on matters which the State of Hawaii have certified. The claims reqarding what is a “natural born citizen” seem rather foolish.

Michael

January 21st, 2012
6:13 pm

Newt has said that he asked God to forgive him for his sins, and I bet they will lap that up in SC. I’m almost sure that he was sincere.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
6:14 pm

Scout, please explain what part of a denied motion to quash an order on motion to appear means that the President does not have to attend the hearing?

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:15 pm

Kammie:

Do you not think with the continued diversity in America that this issue of the definition of “natural born citizen” needs to be decided by the Supreme Court ?

I think it’s a fair Constitutional question and I predict eventually they will have to resolve it.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:16 pm

Good Fight:

The Supreme Court has already ruled on those types of cases otherwise the president would be running all over the place.

Trust me on this one ………….. he does not have to appear before that “Administrative” judge.

td

January 21st, 2012
6:16 pm

Why are all you libs so upset that Newt will win the SC primary? I thought you have been saying for months that if Newt wins the nomination then Obama will win re election in a landslide. Could it be that that was just a talking point and you are all really afraid of Newt?

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:17 pm

Good Fight:

Now ……. what do you think about my 6:08 ?

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
6:17 pm

Do you not think with the continued diversity in America that this issue of the definition of “natural born citizen” needs to be decided by the Supreme Court ?

Ooohh, an activist judge rabbit hole!

Cool beans!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
6:18 pm

Ummm Scout as to your claim about the birth certificate, what part of the complaint item 1 says that the birth certificate is “accepted’

The official state certified birth certificate proffered by Barack Obama contains a factual inconsistency and other anomalies that calls into question the veracity of the rest of the information contained within said document.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
6:19 pm

Could it be that that was just a talking point and you are all really afraid of Newt?

No.

This has been another episode of one word answers to simple questions.

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:20 pm

td

Why do the libs get excited about a Newt win? Well, remember, the libs are against antiquated morality and Christian family values, and like to hear themselves pontificate…why wouldn’t Newt be their candidate…? :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
6:20 pm

Scout, I read your 6:08. I think you have seriously misrepresented the case. Whether intentionally or because of a failure of comprehension, I do not know. The natural born issue is part of items 3 & 4. You seem to skip over item 1.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:21 pm

td:

You bet ………………… :o

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:22 pm

Good Fight/Kammie:

So ? If it goes up the latter it would probably go without #1 ! Happens all the time when an appellate court rules part of a case moot.

The real issues of 3 & 4 need to be decided and clarified for down the road.

td

January 21st, 2012
6:23 pm

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:16 pm

You are absolutely correct. My question is what happens if this Administrative Judge makes a decision and orders the Georgia Secretary of state to not place the Obama electors on the ballot in Georgia? It is my understanding that the states determine whose electors meet their own qualifications to be placed on the ballot.

Lord Help Us

January 21st, 2012
6:23 pm

Yes…it is the GOP candidate with the highest negatives and the one who polls the worst in a head to head match up agains Obama that the libs are skeered of…(eye rolling emoticon…)

Lord Help Us

January 21st, 2012
6:24 pm

Obama not being on the ballot in the only hope the cons have if Newt is the GOP candidate…

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
6:25 pm

Tenther birthers.

:roll: :roll:

JamVet

January 21st, 2012
6:25 pm

Upset? Afraid?

Did the constant chuckling at the degenerate give it away?

CJ

January 21st, 2012
6:26 pm

Do you not think with the continued diversity in America that this issue of the definition of “natural born citizen” needs to be decided by the Supreme Court?

I hear you, 0311/1811.

McCain was born in Panama, Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico, and Barry Goldwater was born in the Arizona territory before it became a state. It’s very important that we prevent such people, and their children, from every becoming a Republican presidential nominee, much less, the President. Too much diversity for my taste.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:27 pm

td:

Then the attorney for the presient’s campaign would take it to federal court but maybe not since they will lose Georgia anyway.

The real issue is a case needs to go to the Supreme Court on the definition of “natural born citizen”.

If it doesn’t go this time, and a future Republican canidate has a similar background, you can bet the Dems. will try the same thing.

I don’t care, I just want to see it resolved. To not do so cheapens the Constitution.

JamVet

January 21st, 2012
6:28 pm

At the time, who could have known that that awful little woman who told John McCain, “He’s an Arab.” would be considered mainstream in the GOP?

Lunatic fringe, we all know you’re out there…

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:29 pm

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:29 pm

CJ:

“McCain was born in Panama, Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico, and Barry Goldwater was born in the Arizona territory before it became a state. It’s very important that we prevent such people, and their children, from every becoming a Republican presidential nominee, much less, the President. Too much diversity for my taste.”

I’m not saying that. Our “expaning” diversity will just cause even more problems in the future.

We just need the Supreme Court to nail it down (as they have hundreds and even thousands of other issues) and if we don’t like what they say ………. we can amend the Constitution.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
6:29 pm

Moving the goalposts Scout? First you claim “you understand” the b/c was not a part of the case and now you claim it would be moot on appeal. One excludes the other.

Do you have a problem with Chester Arthur’s presidency? George Romney was born in Mexico. Guess you better hope that Newt is nominated or that any ultimate decision on “natural born” does not wipe out Romney’s eligibility. But…but…but…. I am sure you will find distinctions.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
6:31 pm

Out for awhile.

Be nice.

getalife

January 21st, 2012
6:33 pm

I want to see willard’s birth certificate and tax forms.

CJ

January 21st, 2012
6:33 pm

We just need the Supreme Court to nail it down (as they have hundreds and even thousands of other issues) and if we don’t like what they say ………. we can amend the Constitution.

I agree. Nobody noticed when Goldwater, the elder Romney, or McCain were on the ballots, but now that we have a dark-skinned president whose father was born in Kenya, we need to get to the bottom of it.

Lord Help Us

January 21st, 2012
6:34 pm

I want to see Newt’s contract with Freddie Mac. Freddie has already said they will waive the non-disclosure…

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
6:35 pm

wreaks of desparation bookman….the fact that the electorate votes for a conservative is the nightmare for you and hussein………your ending was schizo….’resentment and deep disdain for the media’…..your words create the disdain and the jig is up for the leftwing media……….enjoy lib

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:36 pm

CJ

Not exactly true. I was around when Romney the elder was running and it was a big issue…it was especially tied in with the Mormon angle…

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
6:37 pm

libs always project who they are really afraid of…….eh jay?

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:38 pm

Billybob

I take it you aren’t of the morally upright and rightous school of conservativism.

Help Us…

Freddie Mac, when are you coming back?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
6:39 pm

Is billyboy projecting he is afraid of Jay? eh?

CJ

January 21st, 2012
6:39 pm

Thanks for the info josef. I should have know that despised Mormons would have been even more despised in the 60s. Glad that pagan received the scrutiny he deserved.

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
6:42 pm

private citizen josef…….afraid of jay me thinks not

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:44 pm

I don’t presuppose to speak for my fellow liberals, but am I afraid of Newt? You bet your sweet a33 I am. Terrorized would be a better word…

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:46 pm

Billybob

Did I say you were afraid of Jay? Why would anybody be afraid of him?

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
6:47 pm

bookman,
i think it’s time to get out the obama playbook on gingrich and put on your suede shoes so the radical dem party can move you around the chessboard like they need to…..remember, you can only move 2 spots forward on you first order……this is fun

JamVet

January 21st, 2012
6:50 pm

Cons do love their degenerates.

Notice the endless line of those who show up here to defend him.

I think they are afraid of morality and decency, so they gravitate to the family values perverts like Leroy…

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:51 pm

CJ

Looking back at the elder Romeny run and the tie together of the Morman born abroad to question his loyalties to the American state, the Kenyan Muslim text reads pretty much a repeat… The reason we don’t recall it in the popular mind is that the elder Romney dropped out before he was nominated…

josef

January 21st, 2012
6:53 pm

ZamVet

Ain’t it a pisser that of all people, it’d come down to the likes of me to be the champion of traditional moral values? :-)

Jm

January 21st, 2012
6:58 pm

Bring on the exit polls and the results

Oh dear…..

I still think mitt has a decent chance of winning

We shall see

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
6:58 pm

conservatives afraid of morality and decency jamvet? thanks for proving my projection point about libs…..laughable that libs claim the mantle of morality and decency……thanks for the ab workout……obama is toast if he faces a conservative

josef

January 21st, 2012
7:03 pm

Jm

A “decent” chance of winning? Decency doesn’t enter into this equation…

Billybob

Think about what you’re saying…it is laughable that the libs now can claim the mantle of morality and decency…it goes to show just how far the conservatives have fallen…

Truth-O-Meter

January 21st, 2012
7:07 pm

Jay, your comment about the Republicans having fed its base on resentment reminds me of a quote I once read. “I have two dogs fighting inside of me. I know which one will win. The one I feed.” No, I am not calling anyone a dog__that was the quote. But what it means is that when one feeds a diet of bitterness, hatred, distrust, and bigotry to another, that’s what you get in return.

josef

January 21st, 2012
7:12 pm

Truth o meter

It’s a Cherokee story

An old Grandfather said to his grandson, who came to him with anger at a friend who had done him an injustice, “Let me tell you a story.

I too, at times, have felt a great hate for those that have taken so much, with no sorrow for what they do.

But hate wears you down, and does not hurt your enemy. It is like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die. I have struggled with these feelings many times.” He continued, “It is as if there are two wolves inside me. One is good and does no harm. He lives in harmony with all around him, and does not take offense when no offense was intended. He will only fight when it is right to do so, and in the right way.

But the other wolf, ah! He is full of anger. The littlest thing will set him into a fit of temper. He fights everyone, all the time, for no reason. He cannot think because his anger and hate are so great. It is helpless anger,for his anger will change nothing.

Sometimes, it is hard to live with these two wolves inside me, for both of them try to dominate my spirit.”

The boy looked intently into his Grandfather’s eyes and asked, “Which one wins, Grandfather?”

The Grandfather smiled and quietly said, “The one I feed.”

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
7:14 pm

no, it’s laughable libs are trying to claim that mantle…..big difference and nice try…….conservatives are on the rise thanks to obama and the radical libs in charge since 2007……..the wave is just starting to build libs, grab your surfboard or get out of the way

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
7:19 pm

There’s a big ship called Electability in the harbor and it just took a massive torpedo in its side.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
7:19 pm

josef, so the take away from the Cherokee wisdom is about what one feeds themself not what another “feeds” to a person. Hmmm… interesting how someone could twist the takeaway to blame other people rather than accept personal responsibility (from the members of the personal responsibility party?)

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
7:21 pm

Billybob: “conservatives are on the rise thanks to obama and the radical libs in charge since 2007″

There are currently no “radical libs” in charge of this country or in any major political position in this country, nor have there been since 2007.

And if you think there are, then that says nothing about the country but only serves to show how wildly captive you are to a particular type of political obfuscation and illusion.

Truth-O-Meter

January 21st, 2012
7:22 pm

Josef @ 7:12
Thank you for the full context of that story. You sent me scurrying to my bookshelf for the book in which I first read that story__something I have not done often since getting my Kindle.
Anyway, my source was Gary Zukav’s “Soul Stories.” Again, thanks for the full story.

josef

January 21st, 2012
7:23 pm

Billbob

Not an Obama fan myself, but if it’s traditional family values we’re talking about, he’s a front runner there…the conservatives have got a contender with Mitt, but they don’t seem to like him very much…

songbird

January 21st, 2012
7:28 pm

The dumb people of SC said they were looking for someone who could beat Obama when they voted for Newt. Seriously, Gingrich polls much worse against Obama than Romney.

What a bunch of dumb hicks.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
7:28 pm

josef

January 21st, 2012
7:30 pm

Good fight and Truth O’Meter…
Cherokee thought and teachings to the children are centered on personal responsibility…as Unmentionable says, though, “not that we’re any better than anybody else in living up to it!” :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
7:31 pm

Yeahhhhhhh… 7 more weeks of Gingrich class warfare! :D Let’s see those tax returns Mitt!

josef

January 21st, 2012
7:31 pm

songbird
“Hicks” has nothing to do with it. Gingrich is a Carpetbagger, don’t forget… :-)

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
7:33 pm

If this was happening to another country, it would be funny. But it isn’t. It’s happening to OUR country.

On one hand you have a group of people who think in order to win, they must appeal to the the extreme base (who will vote for the party not the person anyway). But in doing so, they turn off the indy voter (you know, the ones that decide elections)

On the other hand you have the incumbent. A man who, lets be honest, isn’t the best we’ve ever had. A prez, who if people were given a better choice, would not win reelection. But, given his potential challenger (Newt or Mittens) will win decidedly.

And in the middle, we have us, the American people scratching our heads saying WTF?

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
7:34 pm

Yeahhhhhhh… 7 more weeks of Gingrich class warfare!

And more importantly, us libruls bein’ skeeeered.

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
7:35 pm

Many of the libs on this blog identify Newt with Bob Dole in running against Bozo. Nothing could be further from the truth. Dole was a weak sister with no balls, running against a strong president and a good politician. Newt is no Bob Dole. Newt is no weak sister and the person that he running against is a political joke. With all of his warts, Newt is still the man to beat. I know all of you libs were hoping for a Ron Paul win, even a Santorum win, but Newt? The baddest SOB on the block, a real threat to Bozo and his grandiose plans for a socialistic America. But we don’t want to live in a Bozo America and Newt is fixin’ to place a big torpedo in that Hope and Change ship out there. There will not be another liberal elected to the Presidency in the next generation. For that we owe Bozo a debt of gratitude. He has shown America just how bad a true socialist liberal is in the WH and it has scared America to death. We will not make that same mistake again.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
7:36 pm

The baddest SOB on the block, a real threat to Bozo…

Called it, a minute earlier.

josef

January 21st, 2012
7:38 pm

kayaker

Given our previous set to’s in which you have questioned in no uncertain Christian terms my morality, I find it altogether telling that you would come out singing Newt’s praises…as I figured all along, your code of morality is for others not of your ilk…

AND THERE IT IS FOLKS, I GOT THE FIRST ILK CARD… :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
7:39 pm

The baddest SOB on the block

“You see this cat Leroy is a bad mother–
(Shut your mouth)
But I’m talkin’ about Leroy
(Then we can dig it)” –
Thomas Jefferson

barking frog

January 21st, 2012
7:39 pm

Has anyone counted the Democrats that voted in south Carolina?

Jack

January 21st, 2012
7:41 pm

Was gonna put in my two cents worth, but kayaker 71 said it for me.

josef

January 21st, 2012
7:42 pm

“…baddest man in the whole d*mn town, badder than Ole King Kong, meaner than a junkyard dog…”

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
7:47 pm

Joseph,

I don’t question your morality and I am not a Christian. It is a free country and you are free to do as you wish, as long as you don’t break any laws….. just like me. I happen to enjoy your comments…. they are filled with a lot more insight than the majority of other liberals on this blog, including Bookman. We just have two ways of looking at politics. Nothing wrong with that.

larry

January 21st, 2012
7:48 pm

Gingrich is bad ? LOL ! He can barely get around.

Jm

January 21st, 2012
7:48 pm

Well, FL is next I guess

What a zoo…..

Curious as to the final results

So SC voted for the anti capitalism candidate that has 3 wives….. Ok

Patrick

January 21st, 2012
7:48 pm

Who knew this scene from Ghostbusters would be such stunningly vivid foreshadowing!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-sALU_hveA

Buckeyein Ga

January 21st, 2012
7:49 pm

Newt would lose horrible if he ran against the President. As I said before, the Republicans who worked with him while in Congress hate him.

Jm

January 21st, 2012
7:49 pm

If mitt somehow loses in FL, there are real problems

Otherwise, a speed bump on the road to victory

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
7:50 pm

“Proud I am, to stand by Wookiees in their hour of need.”
– Thomas Jefferson.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 21st, 2012
7:51 pm

they are filled with a lot more insight than the majority of other liberals on this blog, including Bookman

Of all the stinkin no good gin blogs in all the blogs of the world, he blogs into this one…. :lol:

Patrick

January 21st, 2012
7:51 pm

“I tried to think of the most harmless thing…something that could never, ever possibly destroy us….Mr. Stay Puft!”

RUN!!!!!!

getalife

January 21st, 2012
7:53 pm

jm,

willard is losing.

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
7:53 pm

I really don’t care if the majority of Newt’s friends hate him or love him. I don’t care if he has twenty wives and smokes pot on the weekends. I don’t care if he thinks the world is flat and that he saw Elvis at the mall. If he can put America back to work, reduce this debt and restore America’s confidence in itself, I really don’t think that America cares either.

td

January 21st, 2012
7:53 pm

Here are you libs something to chew on for a while. Herman Cain was massacred in the media for his sexual harrassment claims (not because the people came out) so why has no media outlet ever reported this story? Do not know if the stories are true or not but that did not stop the media with Herman or with Newt for that matter. They drug up Newts 13 years ago divorce? What is the difference?

“During Barack Obama’s tenure as the president of the Harvard Law Review in the late 1980s, at least two male student editors complained to colleagues and senior university officials about inappropriate behavior by Obama, ultimately leaving their positions at the journal, multiple sources confirm to THE KANSAS CITIAN.

The men complained of sexually suggestive behavior by Obama that made them angry and uncomfortable, the sources said, and they signed agreements with the university that gave them financial payouts to leave the journal. The agreements also included language that bars the men from talking about their departures.

In a series of comments over the past 10 days, Obama and his administration repeatedly declined to respond directly about whether he ever faced allegations of sexual harassment at the journal.”

http://conservativetalk.org/2011/11/07/obama-accused-of-sexual-harassment-at-harvard-law-review/

larry

January 21st, 2012
7:53 pm

Otherwise, a speed bump on the road to victory

Pretty big speed bump!, Now what was that about whoever won in SC went on to win the nomination ?

Mr. Bain is in big trouble.

josef

January 21st, 2012
7:54 pm

kayaker

I wasn’t exactly clear on that…I should have acknowledged that you did not call them “Christian,” just that they are so in no uncertain terms…I beg your pardon for that…as you know, it’s the gay thingie I’m referring to here…and, yes, as you know, there are those places where we agree and where we don’t politically and socially…you get accused of a lot of things I don’t think you’re guilty of and, when levelling charges at you myself, I should be more exacting in my choice of words for the charge…

Jm

January 21st, 2012
7:55 pm

Getalife SC yes

He should dominate FL

Out. Dinner time

getalife

January 21st, 2012
7:57 pm

jm,

How can you lose to the newt?

TaxPayer

January 21st, 2012
8:01 pm

The South Carolinians picked the overtaxed Newt over the undertaxed Mitt. :lol: Republicans are one mixed up bunch. What kinda message is being received by the foil-hatted Republicans in Congress. Are they still to be loyal to the one percent?

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:02 pm

getalife

“…play it, Sam…” :-)

kayaker
@ 7:53

And therein is the problem with what is wrong in America, imo. We should care.

td
An odd thing about that…even if and I stress if, he did “make a pass.” does that constitute harassment? Women have been dealing with just such for years…what Bubba meant as a compliment might well have been taken as harassment…just asking…

barking frog

January 21st, 2012
8:02 pm

getalife, 7:57, it can easily happen in an open primary and
democrats cross party vote to get the guy they want to run against.

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:04 pm

TAXI

“Are they still to be loyal to the one percent?”

In this time of uncertainties, it is good to know that, yes, there are some things you can count on….

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
8:05 pm

getalife, 7:57, it can easily happen in an open primary and
democrats cross party vote to get the guy they want to run against.

Sure — my folks, staunch conservative Republicans, have been voting in the Dem primaries for decades.

Paulo977

January 21st, 2012
8:06 pm

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
6:01 pm
anybody read this bullcrap from a georgia judge
__________________

Sure did ..has to be GA !

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:07 pm

“South Carolina, too small for a republic and too large for an insane asylum.”
–James L. Petigru

getalife

January 21st, 2012
8:09 pm

frog,

It’s working.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
8:10 pm

Truth-O-Meter

January 21st, 2012
7:07 pm

Jay, your comment about the Republicans having fed its base on resentment reminds me of a quote I once read. “I have two dogs fighting inside of me. I know which one will win. The one I feed.” No, I am not calling anyone a dog__that was the quote. But what it means is that when one feeds a diet of bitterness, hatred, distrust, and bigotry to another, that’s what you get in return.
________________________________________________________________________________

Truth-O-Meter, that is SOOOOOOOOOO true. And the pundits and politicians on BOTH sides are feeding America that vile diet. In this day and age it is perfectly acceptable to call someone you politically disagree with everything but a child of God. Look at the bloggers here. The hate and bitterness for the opposing political party is almost visceral.

I don’t see how anyone can listen to Glenn Beck but hate Keith Olbermann. Or watch MSNBC but hate Fox News. Hate Rush but listen to Ed Shultz. Or read Huff Po but dismiss Drudge.

They ALL do the EXACT SAME THING!!!

In the end, they all feed off the hate they encourage. As they laugh all the way to the bank.

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
8:10 pm

Newt 41%… Mitts 27%…. looks like we have a horse race.

td

January 21st, 2012
8:10 pm

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:02 pm

I do not know if it happened or not and really do not care personally because I think Obama’s record is enough to get him out of office. I just o not like the fact that the media went after Herman day after day with almost continuous coverage and tracking down and hounding the people that made the allegations and then not a peep heard on these allegations.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
8:11 pm

I don’t see how anyone can listen to Glenn Beck but hate Keith Olbermann. Or watch MSNBC but hate Fox News. Hate Rush but listen to Ed Shultz. Or read Huff Po but dismiss Drudge.

I don’t see how anyone can watch/read/listen to any of that.

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:11 pm

Formally (I liked that one mo better!) the Black Guy
@ 8:10

Amen!

Patrick

January 21st, 2012
8:12 pm

Kayaker–”Newt 41%… Mitts 27%…. looks like we have a horse race.”

Well, more like half of a horse race–the back half! :)

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
8:12 pm

‘I don’t care if Pres. Obama gave BJ’s on the common while at Harvard. The Rep. candidates (especially the Nutster) are too insane to be considered by a rational voter.’

- Thomas Jefferson

TaxPayer

January 21st, 2012
8:13 pm

This race needs a third party. Ron Paul needs to get busy. Maybe he’ll take Texas.

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
8:13 pm

Your part sucks, 8:10,

Post of the day.

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
8:16 pm

So, are we to believe that Bozo is a closet gay? With all due respects to Joseph, that could spell his demise.

St Simons - we're on Island time

January 21st, 2012
8:17 pm

josef
My father actually did the “take me hunting at night & sit behind me”
thing. He came up & got me after about an hour and said it was
stupid to stay all night in the woods.

now let’s go eat some of the world’s best seafood, and hope teh stoopid
doesn’t drift down the coast from SC

Buckeyein Ga

January 21st, 2012
8:17 pm

I just o not like the fact that the media went after Herman day after day with almost continuous coverage and tracking down and hounding the people that made the allegations and then not a peep heard on these allegations.

That happens to every candidate on both sides, if they are at the top of the race.

carlosgvv

January 21st, 2012
8:18 pm

Looks like Newt will win. When he was questioned at that debate about his open marrage he exploded in rage and lashed out at the questioner. The sheep all applauded. Is it possible the people of SC are actually dumber than the people of GA?

TaxPayer

January 21st, 2012
8:19 pm

Republicans better hope it doesn’t rain too much because their big tent has a lot of holes in it.

St Simons - we're on Island time

January 21st, 2012
8:19 pm

“Erections have consequences, Newt.”

-Thomas Jefferson

getalife

January 21st, 2012
8:19 pm

The gop have gone rogue.

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:20 pm

td

If you don’t care, then why bring it up? I’ve been predicting all along that this one was going to come up as the election season heats up and by October it ought to be front burner…

Did he? I have no idea. I will say that I’ve had enough experience with the GWIDLN (G-d was I drunk last night) breeders to not be surprised no matter where it comes from…the thought has certainly crossed my mind when dealing with his stand on Prop 8 and his tepid “fierce advocacy,” but I doubt it…given the unremitting attacks on the poor shmo from the birthers, et al. this would be just too juicy if there were any credible evidence that direction…

td

January 21st, 2012
8:20 pm

Buckeyein Ga

January 21st, 2012
8:17 pm

So where is the media coverage of the most powerful man in America and this alleged offence?

jack bull

January 21st, 2012
8:21 pm

title could of easily read, “A big Gingrich win would be a Liberal Nightmare”. seriously.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
8:21 pm

Carlos – they aren’t dumber. just the ones they let inside the hall. :-)

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
8:21 pm

“Erections have consequences, Newt”….. Sage advice. I am sure that I could saved a lot of money and been a lot more financially secure if I had listened to Thomas Jefferson.

td

January 21st, 2012
8:23 pm

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:20 pm

I brought it up because it shows the mass hypocrisy of the so called “main stream media”. It should be called the democratic party propaganda machine. Fox is only a little better but not much.

jack bull

January 21st, 2012
8:23 pm

it would be entertaining to watch the debates with Newt and the food stamp President.

Truth-O-Meter

January 21st, 2012
8:24 pm

td
Maybe D. Trump can learn the truth about the harassment while he searches for the long form birth certificate in Hawaii.

You people have too much time on your hands. Now go and study your Sunday School lesson.

Buckeyein Ga

January 21st, 2012
8:27 pm

Buckeyein Ga

January 21st, 2012
8:17 pm

So where is the media coverage of the most powerful man in America and this alleged offence?
——-
A couple of things. I would need to see more sources then that one to even believe the story. BUT you seem to have forgotten the coverage of his birth certificate, even though it was proved to be false, its still getting media play. There was coverage about him sitting in Rev Wright’ church…I could go on..So because that specific alleged offense wasn’t covered doesn’t mean the media is being soft on him..based on all of the other stuff that was covered..

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:28 pm

kayaker

If the GOP does nominate Newt, and it did turn out there was some basis to the allegations, you gotta admit, the spin on THAT would be an entertainment if nothing else… :-)

St SIMONS
Good one! :-)

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
8:32 pm

josef: DDR, Mississippi is rejoicing, however…finally they can hold their heads up and say “well, thank G-d we ain’t Georgia!

hi josef!! I laughed so hard at your comment, i dang near choked to death on my merlot!

scout: 2) As I understand it, the case is not about where the president was born (that has been decided) but instead what is the Constitutional definition of a “natural born citizen”.

HA! its a back handed end around attempt to keep Obama off of the ballot. They could’ve posed the question WITHOUT asking for Obama to be taken off of the ballots in Georgia. Besides, I would LOVE to see some po dunk judge/policeman from Georgia serve a warrant on the President of the US.

3) I hope this case works its way to the Supreme Court NOT for this election but in time for the 2016 election

It has already been detrmined what a “natural born citizen” is — if there was a problem with the definition, then why wasn’t it challenged when JFK was president? His father was originally from Ireland. Why now? Why THIS president?

td

January 21st, 2012
8:32 pm

Buckeyein Ga

January 21st, 2012
8:27 pm

After watching the intense media vetting of everyone of the Republican candidates this time can you honestly tell us that Obama received the same type of vetting 4 years ago?

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:33 pm

Carlos

“Is it possible the people of SC are actually dumber than the people of GA?”

Good L-rd, Mate, why stop there? We haven’t even gotten started good… how many more states to go in the dumb sweepstakes…?

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
8:35 pm

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
8:11 pm

or mediamatters, or daily kos, or britbart, or red state, or think progress, or …

They all do the same thing, but they are despised by the other side.

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:35 pm

HEY DDR!!

Looks like South Carolina just took the lead in the WTF race…but, well, the fat lady ain’t even made it to the concert hall yet… :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
8:36 pm

maybe the Nutster and Pres. Obama have something in common. They both like receiving oral sex.

The Nutster is a carpetbagging, self serving, pompous asshat (and those are his better qualities).

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
8:38 pm

Keep:DDR, I posted that yesterday….shocking isn’t it.

Ridiculous! The judge should’ve thrown it out– but i guess the plaintiff got lucky and found a birther/conspiracy theory/republican judge to hear the case. :roll:

I have not been able to find a whole lot on the briefs and the decision but I suspect its an administrative law judge who seems to have made a very foolish decision. I cannot imagine any reason that the President should be required to come to Georgia to testify on matters which the State of Hawaii have certified. The claims reqarding what is a “natural born citizen” seem rather foolish

I can’t remember the ammendment; but it was adjacent to the one that freed the slaves. When they were freed, the ones born on US soil were granted citizenship. That should be precedent enough. Unfortuantely the walking dead amongst us just won’t let this crap die.

Buckeyein Ga

January 21st, 2012
8:38 pm

TD 8:32
Yes. Heck He’s STILL getting vetted. Now people want to see his college transcripts.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
8:41 pm

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:11 pm

Formally (I liked that one mo better!) the Black Guy

josef, I may switch back. I just like putting it out there how absurd some people are. It’s like saying “my ex used to beat me with a baseball bat but my current love only beats me with a softball bat”.

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:43 pm

What’s that rumbling sound? John Locke rolling over in his grave, methinks. “…the best laid plans of mice and men…”

josef

January 21st, 2012
8:48 pm

Common sense

At least we won’t have to hear him say he “never had sex with that WOMAN!”

Formal Black Guy…

Ain’t it the truth…I think you’re a fine candidate for the EOI (Equal Opportunity Instigators) who meet here regularly on the blog. It’d be my honor to sponsor you.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
8:48 pm

Obama is still likeable as a person.
Newt on the other hand…

tipster

January 21st, 2012
8:49 pm

The family values party! Bwahahaha!

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
8:55 pm

So, DADT and California Prop 8 …. some things are just a little to coincidental. Vetting is a wonderful thing, even if it comes three years too late.

Common Sense isn't very Common

January 21st, 2012
8:56 pm

‘I only had sex with that woman, uh which woman were we talking about?’

- Newt Gingrich

td

January 21st, 2012
8:58 pm

Your Party SUCKS……..But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
8:48 pm
Obama is still likeable as a person.
Newt on the other hand…

But Obama’s policies are disliked by 60% of the country. The Independents that will decide the election may have to decide between the person I like better or the set of policies I like better.

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
8:59 pm

obama….likable…..hilarious……..his ego and his own words will be his downfall in the coming months so all libs please enjoy the smackdown

kayaker 71

January 21st, 2012
9:03 pm

Looks like Newt is still at 40% while Mitts is at 27%. Seems like something resonated. Newt is Bozo’s worst nightmare. Since 1980, the Republican who has won SC has gone on to be the Republican nominee. Maybe Mitts can turn that around in FL but……

md

January 21st, 2012
9:04 pm

“A big Gingrich win would be GOP nightmare”

I actually agree……Newt attacking Romney for being too capitalistic??

Can’t be good for the platform.

josef

January 21st, 2012
9:07 pm

Having some iPad Internet connection problems, so if I disappear…

Billybob…

Just because you don’t like him…like is aid, no big fan of his myself, but he does have a good self-effacing sense of humor and dotes on his kids, likable characteristics in my book

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:09 pm

newt did not imply romney was being too capitalistic………can’t let you get away with that line md……newt was questioning his integrity on a couple of business deals…..also you will not get away with a thinly veiled bashing of capitalism either……like i said keep talking that line b/c it’s a loser for democrats……easy to expose the radical libs and explain them away…..next

Finn McCool

January 21st, 2012
9:10 pm

Joe Paterno died.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:11 pm

Al Sharpton totally doesn’t get it.

If he thinks Newt will be a walk for Obama.

I mean I could be wrong, but I just don’t think Obama has an easy go of it against any GOP nominee. Cause as we know, he sho ain’t wining Dixie.

Midori

January 21st, 2012
9:13 pm

Joe Paterno has died

A Tax Cheat or. A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 21st, 2012
9:14 pm

@Redneck Convert (R–and proud of it)

January 21st, 2012
5:22 pm
Well, I want old Newt to win and then go on and take the White House. The reason is because this Obama is as boring as watching paint dry. I mean, at least he could pinch a intern on the fanny or something just to let us know he’s human and a real manly man.
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“Newt will come out of South Carolina with the smell of napalm in his nostrils, and we all know what napalm smells like: victory.”

No Newt will come out of South Carolina with the stench of racism, the foul odor of hypocrisy and the putrid air of hate.

If Newt will cheat on his WIVES he will certainly cheat on America?

IS THIS THE BEST THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE TO BEAT OBAMA? :)

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:14 pm

Thanks, Finn.

NY Times still now showing Joe Paterno has died. But I do see a couple if news items on the web.

Midori

January 21st, 2012
9:16 pm

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:16 pm

More Arab “Spring”:

“US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Saturday called Egypt’s foreign minister to discuss the country’s economic and political situation, as well as events in Syria, the State Department said.
It said the telephone call covered the same ground as President Barack Obama’s discussion with Field Marshal Hussein Tantawi on Friday, which the White House said was focused on Egypt’s need for a democratic transition.

Clinton’s call to Foreign Minister Mohammed Amr came as official election results showed that Egypt’s Islamists, led by the once-banned Muslim Brotherhood, clinched more than two-thirds of parliamentary seats in historic polls held last year after the ouster of long-time president Hosni Mubarak.

“They also compared notes on Syria in advance of the Arab League meetings this weekend,” the State Department said in a brief statement.”

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:17 pm

LIB 101 false liberal ‘racism and hate’ template warning……….character assasination is all the radical libs have left…….will make for a long, painful landslide in november

Midori

January 21st, 2012
9:18 pm

looks like he may still be alive. Some calling it a hoax.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:18 pm

Headlline (AP): “Scalia on unlimited political ads: Turn off the TV”

“COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — U.S. Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia has a simple solution for people who don’t like all the political advertisements unleashed by the court’s decision two years ago that ended limits on corporate contributions in political campaigns – change the channel or turn off the TV.”

Midori

January 21st, 2012
9:18 pm

Billybob –
you need help.

desperately.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:20 pm

Billybob: “character assasination is all the radical libs have left”

What the hell are you talking about Billy?

Character assassination?

You put up a GOP field this weak and accuse critics of character assassination?

This group assassinates itself.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 21st, 2012
9:22 pm

@Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:11 pm
Al Sharpton totally doesn’t get it.

If he thinks Newt will be a walk for Obama.

I mean I could be wrong, but I just don’t think Obama has an easy go of it against any GOP nominee. Cause as we know, he sho ain’t wining Dixie.
*************************************************************************************

Newt is not GOD.

Newt is a nasty Racist.

Newt is what stupid people think smart people sound like.

Don’t take Obama for a fool or for granted.

He did not graduate from Harvard an idiot.

Obama has run this country for four years and what has any of those candidates done for 4 years.

If Obama can deal with leaders of other countries HE CAN CERTAINLY DEAL WITH THESE REPUBLICANS CLOWNS.

Don’t sell Obama short.

Just because the racists and hecks in the south think they are smarter than the average black person; remember there are millions of other people all over this country that are not hecks and racists.

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
9:22 pm

maybe the Nutster and Pres. Obama have something in common. They both like receiving oral sex

Who doesn’t?

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:23 pm

comment was made to a tax cheat….read his 9:14 post and i stand by what i said

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
9:24 pm

or mediamatters, or daily kos, or britbart, or red state, or think progress, or …

They all do the same thing, but they are despised by the other side.

Yep, but you bitching about them makes you just as shrill as they are.

td

January 21st, 2012
9:24 pm

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:18 pm

Or just do what most other people do and flip the remote when any commercial comes on (even during the super bowl).

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
9:25 pm

Joe Paterno died.

Probably from shame.

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:25 pm

a tax cheat is on fire….pppppppleeeease keep this rhetoric up….it so helps conservatives

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:25 pm

Midori:

Too late. You said he was dead.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 21st, 2012
9:29 pm

@Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:17 pm
LIB 101 false liberal ‘racism and hate’ template warning……….character assasination is all the radical libs have left…….will make for a long, painful landslide in november
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Listen BILLY goat

Everyone in this country ain’t in love with Newt or any of the Republican candidates.

Everyone in this country ain’t a racist or a simple minded uneducated hick.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat is nothing to BE PROUD OF. :)

I would not gloat if I were you.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:29 pm

This Newt was road kill a mere 6 months ago.

Road kill.

I mean he was deader than dead.

Finn McCool

January 21st, 2012
9:29 pm

oops, joe pat attorney has denied he is dead. whoops

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
9:30 pm

td – I saw that same email (on the sports blog no less) about obama and his “homosexuality”. I find it really funny — Obama is a black man, you can usually find a “girl on the side or jump off’ in a black man’s past (Ask herman cain); yet no one could find one in Obama’s so they now hint that he’s a closet “homosexual”.

Very funny indeed.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:30 pm

I love this one !

“(CNSNews.com) – Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has defeated the national media in South Carolina by a margin of 54 percent to 14 percent, according to a survey conducted by a Democratic polling firm.

The poll, conducted by Raleigh, N.C.-based Public Policy Polling (PPP), interviewed 1,540 likely South Carolina Republican primary voters from Jan. 18 to Jan. 20. It showed that 54 percent of those voters said they had a favorable opinion of Gingrich while 37 percent said they had an unfavorable opinion of him.

At the same time, only 14 percent said they had a favorable opinion of the media, while 77 percent said they had an unfavorable opinion of the media.”

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:32 pm

Keep in mind Newt was on a cruise 6 months ago and left for dead.

His campaign was just like that wrecked cruise ship.

Upended.

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:32 pm

a tax cheat,
Rock on brother!!!!! Keep it up my friend!

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
9:33 pm

Ooohh, a Drudge rabbit hole.

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
9:34 pm

Listen BILLY goat

Tax cheat – why bother? They ALWAYS claim “racism”, reverse racism, undercover racism, racism augratin, etc.

When Colin Powell endorsed Obama, (Colin Powell who USED to be repugs black golden boy); they screamed RACISM.

Methinks they see racism everywhere they go……

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 21st, 2012
9:34 pm

@Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:25 pm
a tax cheat is on fire….pppppppleeeease keep this rhetoric up….it so helps conservatives
*************************************************************************

You said it Billy Goat

Kapow Bang Pow Kaaapooooooom

Rhetoric – The art of effective or persuasive speaking or writing.

THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT :)

td

January 21st, 2012
9:36 pm

Newt “It is not that I am a good debater it is that I can articulate the deeply held values of the American people”

Amen, preach on brother Newt

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:36 pm

I think that the Republican party is on the brink of open revolt.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:37 pm

7 3-hour debates?

My eyes just glazed over.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:38 pm

And another good one !!!

Washington Post Ombudsman: “Scrutinize President Obama’s record”

“Some of this has been looked at already in Post coverage. But collecting it in one place on the Web would be helpful, as well as looking deeper, now with more hindsight and evidence, at Obama’s record.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-post-needs-to-spend-2012-scrutinizing-obamas-record/2012/01/20/gIQAVHcoEQ_story.html?hpid=z3

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:38 pm

debbie,
a tax cheat played the race card and i stood up to that………which i think is your point?

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:39 pm

Kammie:

That was from one of my websites ………. CBS.

Have you been looking at Drudge again ?

td

January 21st, 2012
9:40 pm

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
9:30 pm

I saw in on about 100 peoples walls on FB.

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
9:40 pm

Occupation i think you meant they ARE revolting….

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 21st, 2012
9:41 pm

Is it just me……?

Calista Gingrich looks like the TIN MAN (with a blonde wig) from the wizard of oz.

Has anyone ever heard her speak?

What a first lady she would make being a homewrecker and a fonicator.

Family Values?

Boy you REPUBLICANS CAN SURE PICK ‘EM.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 21st, 2012
9:43 pm

Well, I wish somebody would make up their mind as to if Joe Paterno is dead or not. Some of us up here at Billy Bob’s already chipped in to send some flowers and we decided a nice wreath in the shape of a GA bulldog would set the right tone. Now y’all are going back and forth about it and we can’t even tell if he’s about to take a dirt nap.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:43 pm

Scout:

Deborah Howell, Post ombudsman from 2005 through 2008, said at the end of her tenure that “some of the conservatives’ complaints about a liberal tilt [at The Post] are valid.”

The notion of a liberal bias in the news media is a sham.

Ombudsmen and -women at major news media outlets are idiots.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:43 pm

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?) :

Kennedy?

Clinton ? (and with a government worker under his chain of command on government property)

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
9:44 pm

That was from one of my websites ………. CBS.

CBS?

Better check to see if those McWhiny pants are on fire….

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
9:44 pm

Scout – answered you earlier (probably on page 4).

How are you doing tonight? Miss football on Saturdays? (I do.)

josef

January 21st, 2012
9:44 pm

Tax cheat…

What’s a “heck” ?

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
9:45 pm

debbie,
make that coalescing……

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 21st, 2012
9:45 pm

Newt calling Obama the FOOD STAMP PRESIDENT is like calling the kettle black,.

We call Newt the Adulterer, Mean spirited, Racist Sex Addict.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:46 pm

Welcome to the Occupation :

Current Post Ombudsman:

“I won’t quibble with her (Deborah Howell) conclusion. I think she was right.”

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:47 pm

Kammie:

HA ! Caught you again surfing on drudge !

bman

January 21st, 2012
9:48 pm

voters showing politicians how flip-flopping is really done

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:48 pm

DebbieDoRight :

I’m doing fine again and yes I sure do miss football ……….. especially college.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
9:48 pm

But Obama’s policies are disliked by 60% of the country. The Independents that will decide the election may have to decide between the person I like better or the set of policies I like better.
______________________________________________________________________________

But, in my experience, if I don’t like some one, I find it hard to TRUST that person.

People don’t like Newt so they will not trust him either. That’s outside of the FACT that he has been proven UNTRUSTWORTHY.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
9:48 pm

“I won’t quibble with her (Deborah Howell) conclusion. I think she was right.”

Like I said, Scout. Idiots.

Just look at Arthur Brisbane. The man actually wonders if its the media’s job to get at the truth.

Idiots.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 21st, 2012
9:48 pm

@josef

January 21st, 2012
9:44 pm
Tax cheat…

What’s a “heck” ?
**********************************************************

YA’LL ARE HICKS :)

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
9:49 pm

Scout: Kennedy? Clinton ?

I thought you said if they asked God for forgiveness than everything would be fine. If it’s gravy for the repubs….

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 21st, 2012
9:51 pm

CALISTA GINGRICH better watch out.

Newt just winked his eye at the woman behind him. :)

Watch out now!

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
9:52 pm

HA ! Caught you again surfing on drudge !

It’s right there leading off you second paragraph:

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
9:30 pm

I love this one !

“(CNSNews.com) – Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich has defeated the national media in South Carolina by a margin of 54 percent to 14 percent, according to a survey conducted by a Democratic polling firm.

Geez….

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
9:54 pm

“We represent the Lollipop Guild
The Lollipop Guild, the Lollipop Guild.
And in the name of the Lollipop Guild
We wish to welcome you to Munchkin Land”

– Thomas Jefferson

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
9:57 pm

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
8:59 pm

obama….likable…..hilarious……..his ego and his own words will be his downfall
__________________________________________________________________________

BB, look at Newt’s words and ego.

The sadder comparison is Mitt, his words are not his, they belong to the polls. And he has no ego. People with a ego will take a position on something, ANYTHING.

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:00 pm

Scout

re: The EEOC is out of control and they have been for years.

Pepsi should have taken that to the SCOTUS.

I don’t care what the EEOC says ……….. I wouldn’t want someone with an arrest record (and getting off everytime) working for me.

Privately owned company, hire who you want.
Public-owned company, follow the rules.
If some company/government hired only Blacks (minorities) **ahem Atlanta, ahem**, White people would go ape shiite crazy with the discrimination stuff. You can’t have it both ways. Either equal opportunity for all, or suffer the consequences of your own game. I don’t care whether it’s a government group or public owned group, there are laws that have to be followed IF we are to consider ourselves a law-abiding society. From the Pepsi story, they self reported and corrected if I read things correctly, so don’t try to blame the EEOC as they’re only enforcing laws passed by Congress. Save your angst and ire for the jackasses you keep voting in office hoping that they will do something different the next time.

bman

January 21st, 2012
10:02 pm

“People with a ego will take a position on something, ANYTHING.”

This is both Obama + Newt. I can’t imagine the two of them sharing a stage with their huge egos, melon heads, and flappy ears.

The Kid

January 21st, 2012
10:03 pm

America is declining by the primary. S.C. has shown the world the true uglyness of the Republican Party. To hate a black man so much as to vote for this sleaze ball and his whore goes beyond the pale. It is what it is. We want get ugly here but just utter some truisms. S.C. where the confederate flag still flies over the capital building is still fighting the Civil War and wants the world to know it. This is your America people…, the good and the bad of it.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
10:03 pm

A Tax Cheat

That phrase does not mean what you think it means.

Who is the “tax cheat”?

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
10:04 pm

“Mmmbop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du bop, ba duba dop
Ba du
Yeah”
– Thomas Jefferson

td

January 21st, 2012
10:05 pm

The Kid

January 21st, 2012
10:03 pm

You libs have played the race card so many times that now it is virtually meaningless. Try something new this argument is getting old.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
10:06 pm

Willard still going on in his speech tonight about free enterprise under attack.

He sounds wounded, as the pope might were his church under attack.

C’mon loosen up Willard, it was just a strategy. Nothing to fear from your fellow GOPers on that front.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
10:10 pm

All, I apologize. I responded to A Tax Cheat before I read it’s 9:22. I repent and will sacrifice a shot of rum to the blog gods.

Please don’t make my mistake. Ignore this troll.

Jay

January 21st, 2012
10:10 pm

That was, by any measure, a very impressive showing by Mr. Gingrich.

td

January 21st, 2012
10:12 pm

Jay,

Chuck Todd just said that looks like Newt has tapped into the populist movement.

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
10:13 pm

with the newtster winning in SC watch out for the sleaze ball attacks lobbed his way…………..from his own party.

Remember McCain’s “black love child”?

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:14 pm

Jay

Re your 5:21 post… Welcome aboard the crazy train!!!! :lol:

bman

January 21st, 2012
10:15 pm

If Newt Gingrich can win the rep nomination after everything that has been thrown at him, he can win it all.

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:15 pm

looks like Newt has tapped into the populist movement.

And we know Newt knows a thing or two about tappin’ somethin’. :)

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
10:16 pm

“but you bitching about them makes you just as shrill as they are.”

In your eyes maybe, but maybe, just maybe, I’m making a point about the people who will dismiss a story from Drudge and then post a story from think progress.

Also, If a poster brings up a topic, why does it = bitching?

I equate bitching with an emotional rant. Is that what I did?

td

January 21st, 2012
10:17 pm

bman

January 21st, 2012
10:15 pm

I agree with your comment 100%.

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
10:19 pm

And we know Newt knows a thing or two about tappin’ somethin’

SoCoBro – you are sooooooo bad…… :lol:

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:20 pm

bman

I dunno about that. If Newt get’s the GOP nomination, there’s gonna be a major day of reckoning for many in this country. For decades, one party in particular, has preached family values, Christian values, and that other feel good after a good Sunday Service type stuff.

A matchup between Newt and Obama brings a monumental decision that has to be made. Those who follow that ideology will have to choose between a man who is a positive example of family values in taking care of the kids and stuff, or Newt. They must decide whether the stuff they’ve preached actually means something or is it just a case of party over ideals.

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:21 pm

DDR

I’m simply showing contrast between the candidates. Isn’t that what they call it? ;)

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
10:21 pm

Also, If a poster brings up a topic, why does it = bitching?

Call it what you will but my point is you are just a shrill as they are.

Jay

January 21st, 2012
10:21 pm

Yes, TD, he was. I’ll post more on this later, but I think it’s a very important point:

Newt was victorious by employing the Democratic line of attack against Mitt. Think about that. A lot of folks are suggesting this says something about Romney as a candidate, but I think it says something a lot more important about the message.

In a conservative Republican primary, the Democratic line of attack proved decisive. What does that tell you about what’s going to happen in the general election? Newt hasn’t merely exposed Romney, he has exposed the fragility of the entire GOP philosophy.

It’s really quite stunning, in ways that a lot of people don’t yet comprehend.

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
10:22 pm

They must decide whether the stuff they’ve preached actually means something or is it just a case of party over ideals.

They’ll pinch their noses, hold their breath, and choose party every time.

Jay

January 21st, 2012
10:23 pm

In a sense, we’re seeing a third-party candidate, and it’s Newt Gingrich.

josef

January 21st, 2012
10:24 pm

Tax cheat

The correct form is y’all…even iPad auto correct knows that! Bless your semi literate heart! :-)

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
10:26 pm

Romney says:

I’ve witnessed this free enterprise system at work and how it brings prosperity to all in America.

With the word “all” it becomes a lie, Willard.

getalife

January 21st, 2012
10:26 pm

They tossed the newt of our town once before remember.

Lets start opening that newt baggage.

This is fun.

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:27 pm

DDR

We both know that, yet anybody who points that out will be accused of all kinds of bashing except for what it really is, truth bashing.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
10:28 pm

Brosephus and Welcome to the Occupation:

And you are entitled to your opinion. Enjoyed the exchanged.

Kammie:

Quit surfing Drudge.

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:28 pm

In a conservative Republican primary, the Democratic line of attack proved decisive. What does that tell you about what’s going to happen in the general election? Newt hasn’t merely exposed Romney, he has exposed the fragility of the entire GOP philosophy.

If there are any unexplainable booms heard overnight, I’m laying blame on the collective conservatives heads that are exploding trying to comprehend that thought.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
10:29 pm

Absolutely right, Jay.

“In a conservative Republican primary, the Democratic line of attack proved decisive. What does that tell you about what’s going to happen in the general election? Newt hasn’t merely exposed Romney, he has exposed the fragility of the entire GOP philosophy.”

There is no overlooking the fact that it was the relentless attacks on the Bain Capital record carried out not only by Gingrich but also by Perry that turned the tide here.

That has enormous implications for the road ahead..

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:29 pm

Scout

You know I always enjoy conversing with you, even if it’s something we agree on. ;)

josef

January 21st, 2012
10:29 pm

The kid…

The Confederate flag flies over the Georgia Capitol.. For real, it does…and even the battle flag no longer flies over the SC Capitol…you need to keep up with the times…

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
10:29 pm

Please tell me how I am as “shrill” as they are? I know you like to get caustic with any poster that you may disagree with, but that is not my goal. If I am acting like the examples I gave, I damn sure want to change.

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
10:29 pm

JAY @ 10:21:

……….. and what then would be the line of attack agains Gingrich that failed !

This is going to get good !

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
10:30 pm

Truth bashing huh? Hee hee heee…..

Hey did you smell the stink of that Juan Williams / Newt cross examination during the SC debates? It’s almost as if Juan was paid a loat of money to recit a script……

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
10:30 pm

Excuse me: “against”

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
10:31 pm

josef:

It’s said but they have no clue about the flag thing. Don’t remind them or they’ll want it changed again.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
10:32 pm

Jay

January 21st, 2012
10:23 pm

In a sense, we’re seeing a third-party candidate, and it’s Newt Gingrich.

Jay, you misspelled “third”. You added a “hi” and left out the “u”.

The Kid

January 21st, 2012
10:32 pm

td

Jan. 21, 2012
10:05 pm

It won’t be over in my lifetime nor yours. It will be relevant until all vestiges of racism dies. It’s apparent that you’ve never had to get on the back of the bus nor have you had to go into the back door because of your color. You’ve never heard your grandmother tell you of the klan in Monroe, Ga. riding into the house on their horses or know of people who have been lynched because of their color. It’s meaningless to you td, because you don’t know of any of this. But you see …, it’s not meaningless to me and millions more like me. It will be relevant until the day I die. I didn’t ask for race to play such a big part of my life. I just had to play the hand that I was dealt. My children and their children and their children will all know the story.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
10:33 pm

Thanks Scout. I do admire your calmness under fire. Dare I say, comrade-worthy ? :)

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
10:36 pm

There is great merriment and exultation in the Gingrich camp tonight.

But perhaps nowhere more so than at Pennsylvania Ave and at the Axelrod compound in Chicago.

DebbieDoRight

January 21st, 2012
10:42 pm

Nite all!! I’m off to see the Wizard.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
10:44 pm

Please tell me how I am as “shrill” as they are?

You are employing the same binary mind-set that you are whining about

On one hand you have a group of people who think in order to win, they must appeal to the the extreme base

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On the other hand you have the incumbent.

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And the pundits and politicians on BOTH sides are feeding America that vile diet.

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They all do the same thing, but they are despised by the other side.

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I’m making a point about the people who will dismiss a story from Drudge and then post a story from think progress.

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And this is how you see yourself: And in the middle, we have us, the American people scratching our heads saying WTF?

You think by claiming that you are “in the middle” that you are somehow above this?

bman

January 21st, 2012
10:45 pm

“But perhaps nowhere more so than at Pennsylvania Ave and at the Axelrod compound in Chicago.”

with his approval #s ? I seriously doubt that lol….

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
10:53 pm

jay,
you should really review some of my previous posts…..you know i am trying to help you…..obama is toast….dems AND rino’s in the senate(33 total) are in big trouble as well………this is momentum gaining steam against big gov’t and FOR capitalism and free markets…….the problem with our current issues doesn’t lie with our gov’t institutions ,per-se, as much as with the morals and the values of those entrusted with it……that’s why the conservative message will reasonate and garner many more votes than obama and his message of class warfare, redistribution, and division…….let me know what else you would like to know………good day libs

The Kid

January 21st, 2012
10:54 pm

josef
Where-ever the confederate flag flies is too much for me because of what it stands for. One more thing…, I’m probably as conservative or more so than ole td. So it’s not always a liberal who speaks for what is right in this country. What some see as a right, others see a hateful expression. Just a matter of perception. There are those in Ga. and through-out the south who wish the civil war had gone the other way. Newt plays to these people. Thanks for enlightening me on the flag thing.

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
10:57 pm

DDR

I refuse to watch those paid political campaign ads that are mislabeled as debates. The idea of a debate is to stake a position and use factually laden dialogue to back your position. This crap they do every election is nothing more than a sham uses to hide the fact that we are being played for fools.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
10:59 pm

Kam, I see what you are saying and will take that into account. I may even agree with it, except the “whining” part. But isn’t that an example of what I was saying? Was the descriptor “whining” necessary? Obviously I was/am not making this exchange confrontational or trying to belittle you, but you decided to belittle me. Why? As I have said to you before, if I ask a question, it is just that, A QUESTION. There is no “gotcha” set up. Some of the bloggers on this site are pretty smart, so when I ask a question, it is purely for information. I realize there are people here that are smarter than I.

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
10:59 pm

implying newt voters in SC are a bunch of racists is exactly why conservatism is growing……

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
11:01 pm

Billybob: “implying newt voters in SC are a bunch of racists is exactly why conservatism is growing……

So you’re conceding that conservativism is in essence just resentment?

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
11:02 pm

Obviously I was/am not making this exchange confrontational or trying to belittle you, but you decided to belittle me.

That was not my intent, and I apologize for coming across that way.

As Good as it might get

January 21st, 2012
11:04 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

I saw where you rambled on about “was the deionization like bla, bla, bla”

The answer is no. Republicans can never have the resources that Democrats have. Republicans have FOX and talk radio, an average daily audience of a couple million while the Democrats have the combined mainstream with a daily audience of about 100 million. The comparison is actually laughable.

But it is noted that of all the horrible problems Obama has brought to our country, that the very best you could do to refute any of it was such a pathetic attempt.

Its all true and you know it is. Gas prices have never been this high for this time of year. Food prices are going crazy. Unemployment stats are a big lie and Obama is decreeing less and less freedom and much more dictatorial control and this is with an election coming up. Just think about what he will decree if he doesn’t need to worry about being elected. .

My post is true. The only question is will the indoctrination be enough for the American public to ignore all these horrible problems and vote for who the media tells them to vote for. Who will you vote for?

josef

January 21st, 2012
11:05 pm

Kid

Just remember though that the Pesky Redskin could see and feel something similar on seeing the Stars and Stripes, so will you go for taking it down as for what it brings to their mind?

Brosephus

January 21st, 2012
11:05 pm

Lights out time here…

Check y’all later

0311/1811

January 21st, 2012
11:06 pm

Welcome to the Occupation:

I just try to have a good exchange with everyone. Some on here will …….. some won’t. They’re easy to pick out.

TAPS !

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
11:09 pm

Kam, no need to apologize, that’s just your style. You don’t suffer fools and people constantly try to bait you into flame wars. Please recognize, I am not one of those people.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 21st, 2012
11:10 pm

bman: “with his approval #s ? I seriously doubt that lol….”

Compare the favorability ratings for Obama and Gingrich.

http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/

This could be huge in a general election.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
11:11 pm

. Please recognize, I am not one of those people.

Done.

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
11:11 pm

welcome,
have you been sippin’ the sauce tonight?…..extrapolating that i conceded that conservatism equals hate is just silly my friend……ideas are what this election will be about, not about who says who is a racist…….that lib media template is six-feet under……….republicans have ideas and hussein has blame…..

Jm

January 21st, 2012
11:13 pm

Jay 10:21

Plenty of people comprehend

It is a bit of a tribute to OWS

Bad for prosperity though

Jm

January 21st, 2012
11:15 pm

Newt s running for the wrong party nomination

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
11:16 pm

Compare the favorability ratings for Obama and Gingrich.

The folks at intrade — the ones with actual skin in the game — have Obama 54% chance of winning and Gingrich at 11%. Romney still remains the best money bet at 31%.

bman

January 21st, 2012
11:16 pm

welcome to the occupation .. ..

Maybe. I just don’t believe that the people in the Obama Administration are celebrating. I believe Newt is the one they would rather not have. They would love Santorum or Ron Paul, Bachman etc..

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
11:17 pm

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
11:17 pm

So, Kam, do you see what I am trying to say about the opposing political views? If so, how would you present it without being shrill or whining?

WTF

January 21st, 2012
11:18 pm

The serial adulterer won the “family values” party vote in South Carolina.

GOP-P = Gettin Other People’s P?

td

January 21st, 2012
11:19 pm

Jay

January 21st, 2012
10:21 pm

I shall disagree with you. The exit polls show that the vast majority thought Newt was the best candidate that could defeat Obama. I will submit that the vast majority of conservatives feel Obama’s defeat is the number one issue in the primary.

md

January 21st, 2012
11:24 pm

“It’s really quite stunning, in ways that a lot of people don’t yet comprehend.”

Well….I comprehended it a few pages back, and was called a Dem because of it.

Billibob, you may want to think about what Newt, and the 2 Rick’s just did to the republican platform.

Ask yourself……why would it matter if Romney hasn’t released his taxes?

The answer…it shouldn’t…….especially coming from the party of “opportunity”.

These guys just slit their own throats……..and those that know of me know I’m hardly a dem.

josef

January 21st, 2012
11:24 pm

bman

January 21st, 2012
11:24 pm

td .. .. I cannot say how many times I have heard “anyone but Obama”. I’m sure I’ve even said it myself.

Kamchak

January 21st, 2012
11:26 pm

If so, how would you present it without being shrill or whining?

My opinion?

If you’re looking for a role model here, I would recommend Brocephus or Joe Hussein Mama.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 21st, 2012
11:32 pm

Kam, fair enough.

There are several bloggers who I just scroll past without reading, Bro and JHM are not in that group. Neither is josef, Peadawg, yourself, (ir)rational and others.

Have a great evening and Go 9′ers and Ravens.

td

January 21st, 2012
11:32 pm

The Kid

January 21st, 2012
10:32 pm

Please, I worked for 3 years in government in downtown Atlanta where I was the token white (one of only three out of around 300 and the only straight male conservative). I know about preferences, getting passed over for promotions and feeling like an outsider. Guess what I did not call it racism. It was just the facts of the situation at hand.

You libs have used the word for political advantage so long that it has lost its meaning and hardly anyone even pays attention any longer. Before this years election is over the word will be used so often that it will soon be treated like the story of the boy that cried wolf.

Billybob

January 21st, 2012
11:34 pm

jay,
you misrepresent at 10:21……newt questioned a couple of business decisions he did not use the democratic populist attacking message that you are trying to spin it to……… and it was in response to numerous romney attacks…….obama is the populist candidate so he will be the candidate to go around and blame the rep nominee for the people’s problems and try to deflect what is obviously his fault……..conservatism and it’s philosophy is strong and flourishing i assure you and the rep nominee will will win based on that philosophy…….your welcome

getalife

January 21st, 2012
11:38 pm

“td .. .. I cannot say how many times I have heard “anyone but Obama”. I’m sure I’ve even said it myself.”

That is controlling the message by brainwashing the cons with a talking point but it is not true.

Ask McCain.

CJ

January 22nd, 2012
12:17 am

In a sense, we’re seeing a third-party candidate, and it’s Newt Gingrich.

Only in rhetoric, and only temporarily while he campaigns against Romney. Look at Gingrich’s proposals again. Lower taxes for the wealthy while maintaining welfare for millionaires. Higher taxes for the poor while slashing the safety net. More defense spending (i.e., more deficit spending). Gut regulations. Bellicose foreign policy. More dirty energy. Climate change is a hoax. Cut entitlement benefits. A Christian theocracy. And the list goes on.

Gingrich is Gingrich. A right wing, theocratic hypocrite who has one set of standards for his own personal conduct and another set of standards for everybody else. He’s the plutocrats’ plutocrat, and personally, he scares the crap out of me.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
12:23 am

Only in rhetoric, and only temporarily while he campaigns against Romney.

True dat.

CJ

January 22nd, 2012
12:25 am

By the way, Gingrich still uses his word list (including words that he’s added to the list). Have it nearby so that you can pull it out whenever you catch him on television.

Gingrich and his friends are 100 percent American, strong, leaders, pro this or that, committed, and so on. On the other hand, his opponents are 100 percent radical, destructive, weak, incompetent, intolerant, anti-religious, bureaucratic,…

That word list worked for him before, and he relies on it today.

CJ

January 22nd, 2012
12:29 am

1995 from Fairness in Accuracy in Reporting website–

Since winning control of Congress, Rep. Newt Gingrich (R.-Ga.) has constantly complained about “destructive” and “negative” coverage from the “liberal elite media.”

For example, when asked on Nightline (11/29/94) about his reference to the Clintons as “counter-culture McGoverniks,” he first insisted that he had been misquoted–”I used the term McGovernite, not McGovernik–it was one of those things that the Times picked up and therefore it’s now history” (actually, at least four different newspapers–including the New York Times–quoted Gingrich in their November 10 editions as calling the Clintons “counter-culture McGoverniks”)–and then blamed the media for selective reporting:

I didn’t say that to attack the president, I was asked an analytic question. But because I am now the next speaker, I am learning that everything I say has to be worded carefully and thought through at a level that I’ve never experienced before in my life.

In fact, the new speaker of the House–who once described his goal as “reshaping the entire nation through the news media” (New York Times, 12/14/94)–has given a great deal of thought to the media and how to manipulate them. One Newtonian axiom is “fights make news” (Boston Globe, 11/20/94). Another skill he has taught to Republican candidates through his political organization, GOPAC, is how to create a “shield issue” to deflect criticism:

“A shield issue is just, you know, your opponent is going to attack you as lacking compassion,” a GOPAC training tape advises. “You better find a good compassion issue where, you know, you show up in the local paper holding a baby in the neonatal center, and all you’re trying to do is shield yourself from the inevitable attack.”

But the clearest expression of Gingrich’s philosophy of media came in a GOPAC memo entitled “Language: A Key Mechanism of Control.” Distributed to GOP candidates across the country, the memo’s list of words for Democrats and words for Republicans was endorsed by Gingrich in a cover letter: “The words in that paper are tested language from a recent series of focus groups where we actually tested ideas and language.” Next time you hear Gingrich complain about media focusing on the negative, refer back to these lists.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1276

CJ

January 22nd, 2012
12:34 am

Here’s a better link. It has the entire list of words, and the extremely classic GOPAC cover letter: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4443.htm

As you know, one of the key points in the GOPAC tapes is that “language matters.” In the video “We are a Majority,” Language is listed as a key mechanism of control used by a majority party, along with Agenda, Rules, Attitude and Learning. As the tapes have been used in training sessions across the country and mailed to candidates we have heard a plaintive plea: “I wish I could speak like Newt.” That takes years of practice. But, we believe that you could have a significant impact on your campaign and the way you communicate if we help a little. That is why we have created this list of words and phrases.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
12:38 am

Next time you hear Gingrich complain about media focusing on the negative, refer back to these lists.

Thanks for that link CJ, already bookmarked.

From the positive list —

Use the list below to help define your campaign and your vision of public service. These words can help give extra power to your message. In addition, these words help develop the positive side of the contrast you should create with your opponent, giving your community something to vote for!

share… change…

How’s that change going for you, cons?

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 22nd, 2012
12:46 am

CJ, thanks for the info.

bman, how can I vote for this guy?

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
12:50 am

Billybob: “ideas are what this election will be about, not about who says who is a racist…….that lib media template is six-feet under……….republicans have ideas and hussein has blame…..”

Ok, noted. (Emphasis mine).

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 22nd, 2012
12:50 am

Would this be the GOP’s Rules for Radicals?

They both basically teach how how to manipulate the public.

Not excusing either, but pointing out it is not limited to either. (sorry Kam, I’m working on it)

pat

January 22nd, 2012
12:58 am

Why did it fail? “The people didn’t try to relate to the world around them…when they couldn’t change it a bitterness set in,’WE WANT MORE! WE WANT IT NOW! If somebody tells us not to, we will because might make right. And the flowers wilted and the scene changed.” ~ Bill Graham

Even the origional hippies, the ones who were there from the begining realized, when it becomes about you, nothing can succeed.

It’s time to stop demanding others do something. YOU do something.
You want change you make it happen, quit demanding others do it for you.

bman

January 22nd, 2012
12:59 am

“bman, how can I vote for this guy?”

i don’t know. The same way you would vote for Obama .. .. hold your nose

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 22nd, 2012
1:05 am

bman, to vote for Newt would take more than holding my nose. I would have stuff both nostrils, attach a pair of vice grips, and take a hit of acid.

With Obama, all I have to do is pray.

pat

January 22nd, 2012
1:05 am

It doesn’t matter if you liberals hate gingrich or if he is a divisive character. He does the one thing that is most deadly to democrats, in a media driven by liberals he attracts attention. Every second spent on Romney and Gingrich, is a second Obama can never get back. Gingrich handed the media their own ass the other day, in spectacualar fashion. Exposing the reputable as smut peddalers. It worked well. Giving Republicans attention and allowing them to dominate the conversation is a bad move. The media, if they love Obama would do well to ignore and down play….But the lure of easy money is to great the power of stupidity perpetually under-estimated. This may prove to be a very interesting election yet.

pat

January 22nd, 2012
1:09 am

Pray + Obama= oxymoron.

Obama = Culture of death. Prayer on the carcasses of the innocents are for the atheists. Let their ‘nothing’ save them.

Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)

January 22nd, 2012
1:14 am

pat

January 22nd, 2012
1:09 am

Uhhh, ok.

Jtex

January 22nd, 2012
1:14 am

I honestly don’t understand how the wingnuts of the Right can be so blindly and willfully stupid.

The difference between Clinton and Gingrich is clear to anyone not mired in ideological idiocy. Clinton never made so-called”family values” the foundation of his philosophy, and Gingrich did. More, Gingrich waged war on Clinton BASED on an assertion of moral superiority WHILE committing adultery.

It’s really not complicated…if you pretend not to understand the difference, then you are honestly too stupid to live. Gingrich was a preachy little prat whining about traditional marriage and the importance of family values…that makes him a big,fat, pathetic right-wing POS hypocrite. Clinton not only never based his political position on sanctimonious moral superiority, he also never divorced two sick wives.

Honestly, idiotic right-wing trash…I realize you are stupid, limited bigots…but are you really THIS stupid and ignorant?

Oh…yeah…you are. You are supporting someone who claims to “support traditional marriage” despite the fact that his actions are entirely counter to that. You are bloody idiots who are too freaking limited to even realize how f’ing stupid and bigoted you are.

BP

January 22nd, 2012
1:16 am

Common Sense isn’t very Common

January 21st, 2012
5:39 pm
I wonder what position Callista is going to have if Newt EVER gets to the WH

First Madam?

theyeshaveit

January 22nd, 2012
2:21 am

Mitt was Newtered. :-)

Erwin's cat

January 22nd, 2012
3:13 am

got what ya wanted :D

Bud Wiser

January 22nd, 2012
6:56 am

Gingrich will destroy the uppity one in one-on-one debates.

President Gingrich.

The anti-Obama.

Bud Wiser

January 22nd, 2012
7:06 am

And as far as media stooges, anyone else read Maureen Dowd’s bit Obama’s feel like victims of being underappreciated?

She is the queen stooge with this one.

Some quotes: “The Obama’s feel like victims…

..we saw the president we had craved for three years…

they (the Obamas) feel overassaulted and underappreciated…

..The question isn’t whether Barack Obama is ready to be President. The question is whether we’re ready..

…Obama was just too talented to do what ordinary people do…

…the Obamas, particularly Michelle, have radiated the sense that Americans do not appreciate what they have sacrificed…

Dowd has done a three and a half somersault off the high platform and done a perfect 10 face plant in the crotch of the Obamas with this one.

Talk about unbridled and non-disguised arrogance, I am not sure which has the most, the Obamas or Dowd.

Oh well, problem solved in November.

Lets see where Dowd’s feeding tray wanders to then.

Techfan

January 22nd, 2012
7:27 am

At some point, nasty won’t sell. If Newt wins the nomination, during debates will he answer questions and look presidential, or will he bitch and moan and attack the moderators? All Obama will have to do is politely answer the questions and let Newt self destruct when his ego explodes. Also, I have the feeling that the more women see Newt, they are reminded of his treatment of his previous wives and will either stay home or vote for Obama.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
7:27 am

Republicans certainly could not ask for a better poster boy than Newt. He has old Deal beat hands down in the unethical and immoral department. The new GOP. How low can it dig itself. Money cannot buy you everything but it can sure buy you a Republican. :lol:

Chaps

January 22nd, 2012
7:46 am

I am ever so certain that Bookman and his syncophants here want nothing more than for the Republican Party to be successful.

larry

January 22nd, 2012
7:48 am

I wonder if ole Newt is even fit for office , considering if he wins the nomination and the general election, two big ifs.

I mean look at him, he’s at least over a hundred pounds overweight, walks like he’s fixing to tip over backwards. I think he has some serious health problems the public doesnt know about.

If I’m Romney, forget about his ethics abuses, everyone knows about them. I’d ask Newt to release reports of his last physical.

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
7:53 am

I honestly don’t understand how the wingnuts of the Right can be so blindly and willfully stupid.

The difference between Clinton and Gingrich is clear to anyone not mired in ideological idiocy. Clinton never made so-called”family values” the foundation of his philosophy, and Gingrich did. More, Gingrich waged war on Clinton BASED on an assertion of moral superiority WHILE committing adultery.

It’s really not complicated…if you pretend not to understand the difference, then you are honestly too stupid to live. Gingrich was a preachy little prat whining about traditional marriage and the importance of family values…that makes him a big,fat, pathetic right-wing POS hypocrite. Clinton not only never based his political position on sanctimonious moral superiority, he also never divorced two sick wives.

Honestly, idiotic right-wing trash…I realize you are stupid, limited bigots…but are you really THIS stupid and ignorant?

Preach it, Brother!!

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
8:06 am

Lets rehash what happened

GOP does want the guy who can beat O most

Many people are justly measuring this by quality of debate performance

While mitt did fine in most of the early debates, he’s had some real big flubs in the last couple debates

Ergo people are going for who they think turns in the strongest debate performance

It shows the overwhelming desire to beat O. Anda complete degradation in GOP principles when an anti capitalist serial adulterer wins a state election

Now, all that said, things will probably simmer down if – when mitt wins FL

But mitt needs to get better at the debates or he does stand a chance of being walloped by O later

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
8:10 am

I see jm is off to see the wizard.

again.

Recon 0311 2533

January 22nd, 2012
8:13 am

“And as I’ve pointed out before, the Republican establishment will have only itself to blame. They have trained their base to turn up its nose at even the slightest aroma of moderation. They have fed it on resentment, and instilled it with a deep disdain for the media. In short, they have turned it into an audience utterly susceptibel to a man of Newt’s talents and eccentricities.”

Jay’s describing the spell that Democrats controlled by the far left casts over their base. He doesn’t point out that Gingrich won nothing in Iowa and New Hampshire and his win in South Carolina was compliments of Juan Williams and CNN’s John King. Much of the South Carolina vote I think reflected more of a protest against the media bias reflected by Williams and in particular King who Gingrich took to the woodshed on national television just before the primary vote began. Plenty more to go in this race and declaring Gingrich the Republican favorite and predestined winner is extremely premature and doesn’t even reflect current national polling of Republican voters.

Newtpewt

January 22nd, 2012
8:22 am

Newtie claims he had those affairs because he was under such pressure and loved his country so much. If he becomes President, every woman in the U.S. better lock their doors at night!

carlosgvv

January 22nd, 2012
8:23 am

The good compassionate conservative fundamentalist born-again Christians of SC have picked the adulterer Gingrich over that cultist Mormon Romney. Gingrich now has a chance to get the nomination. This brings to mind the words of Metallica:

Bow down before the one you serve
You’re going to get what you deserve

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
8:29 am

Ask yourself……why would it matter if Romney hasn’t released his taxes?

The answer…it shouldn’t…….especially coming from the party of “opportunity”.

These guys just slit their own throats……..and those that know of me know I’m hardly a dem.

md

AMEN!!!!

larry

January 22nd, 2012
8:30 am

But mitt needs to get better at the debates or he does stand a chance of being walloped by O later

Mitt should do what Newt does, blame the media for every thing that goes wrong in his campaign.

Open marriage claim by ex wife, blame the media
Report of consulting Fannie Mae to the tune of 1.6 million, claim you are the historian and blame the media, etc. etc.

granny godzilla

January 22nd, 2012
8:39 am

Newt 2012

Holy Crap that’s funny!

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
8:39 am

Juan Williams. Where have I heard that name. I think he works for one of those liberal news outlets.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
8:41 am

Vote for me, the anti-elitist Republican candidate with nothing in my past worth talking about. — Newt

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
8:49 am

Well, Gnute was propelled to victory by the Tea Potty, Dixiecrat, foaming-at-the-mouth, Fright-Wing, hate-o-crat, nut cases.

Gnute’s win is the best of all possible outcomes. His loss to Barack Obama is virtually assured.

What a great day! On to victory, Gnute! On to victory!

WTF

January 22nd, 2012
8:53 am

Newtpewt

Wrong. Women in SC voted overwhelmingly for Newt.

Probably because as we all now, Newt lovvvvvves women…..

WTF

January 22nd, 2012
8:55 am

Newt lovvvvvves women…..

Sometimes more than one at a time…..

larry

January 22nd, 2012
9:03 am

Just think, if Newt wins , what a victory it will be for swingers.

People will be opening their marriages all over the country .

carlosgvv

January 22nd, 2012
9:05 am

If Newt makes it to the White House, I will have to console myself with watching all the simple tool cons struggling to defend one of the few politicians in America who can actually make us long for the days of George W. Bush.

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
9:16 am

Well, it’s obvious that Gnute tore up the memo from the RNC. You know, the one that says he’s supposed to “lay down” so that “someone” with an actual chance to beat Barack Obama can win the Republican nomination.

You didn’t really think Callister was going to stand for that. Not with her blind ambition she isn’t. Try to imagine Callister as first lady. She would be the laughing-stock of the World. Kids would go out and buy Callister wigs.

Friends, this is theater that can’t be dreamed up. Truly fact is stranger than fiction!

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
9:23 am

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
9:24 am

Oh! Midori! There are “two things” about that photo that really “stand out!”

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
9:29 am

You know, friends, we really have to thank the Republicans. Without them, there wouldn’t really be any entertainment. What a great show! I’m enjoying this immensely. I can’t wait to tune in next week to see what happens.

Sooth out.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:37 am

Food for thought

There will be a certain irony that the private equity guys will have done in one of their own, a smart and capable candidate, because of their lobbying and special exclusions regarding carried interest taxes

If mitt loses either the primary or general and if the taxes play a big role

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:45 am

Mitt has a sincerity and “genuiness” deficit

That said, he is still the best choice to beat O and would make a capable president

md

January 22nd, 2012
9:46 am

Food for thought

There will be a certain irony that the private equity guys will have done in one of their own, a smart and capable candidate, because of their lobbying and special exclusions regarding carried interest taxes

If mitt loses either the primary or general and if the taxes play a big role”

Now expand that food for thought to crashing the entire republican platform by calling out Romney on his taxes………………

How in the world does Newt and Santorum plan to run on “opportunity” if they have already eaten their own because of his success??

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:51 am

Md

Good question

Good question

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
9:52 am

Callista is looking kinda pale. I hope she’s feeling all right.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:52 am

Md

The tax code needs reforming badly

You do have to wonder if mitt has the guts to fix it

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2012
9:56 am

“You do have to wonder if mitt has the guts to fix it”

It woldn’t be his to fix. Congress has to pass a bill to fix it and he has to sign it, but he can’t fix it on his own.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:56 am

md @ 9:46

I think the layman would best describe that as a circular firing squad.

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
9:57 am

“Dole was a weak sister with no balls.”

And what could better illustrate the extent to which the collective GOP has swirled down the toilet bowl.

Dole was a highly decorated combat veteran of great courage and valor. He worked very hard as a representative for the Jayhawk State, and as a moderate – a hated word in GOP parlance, to be sure – he tried his best to see that our government was NOT gridlocked. A quiet man of conviction, he knew the meaning of compromise and statesmanship. And the people of Kansas adored him.

But the degenerate, derided Leroy Gingrich of Georgia?

A bombastic faux-intellectual who is the slimy polar opposite – a proven coward, a lying narcissist serial wife-cheater and a man, who more than any other in the history of the modern republic, created the cesspool of venom in Washington.

He would make a tremendous president – in the vein of George Walker Bush, Warren Harding and Herbert Hoover.

But you dead red cons don’t care a whit about any of that.

That you want that disgusting little pig to win so very badly is what I find enormously entertaining…

He’s yours cons, own him…

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
9:59 am

Recon: “Jay’s describing the spell that Democrats controlled by the far left casts over their base.”

And just what “far left” casts a spell over this timid and moderately conservative Democratic party, dare I ask?

Douglas Schoen, Rahm Emanual, Ben Nelson, and Evan Bayh Bayh?

With such an abuse of the political lexicon, I wonder what terms would be left for you to draw on if you were to ever encounter someone who was truly from the far left. Far far far super far left?

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:02 am

[T]he career of Newt Gingrich has long since peaked, with many mainstream political pundits even categorizing him as ‘unelectable’, but his recent record-breaking PAC donation from the Israeli lobby establishment figure Sheldon Adelson now begins to make sense. Note that Adelson is also an active financial supporter and media arm for Benjamin Netanyahu’s political career in Israel.

[C]asino magnate Sheldon Adelson recently dashed off a $5 million check to a group backing former House speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.), marking what may be the largest single political contribution in U.S. history. Adelson is well known for supporting hard-line policies favoring Israel while also advocating measures that would benefit the gambling industry.

Ron Paul is the only GOP candidate who is not overtly ‘pro-Israel’ in the popular neoconservative sense. On January 13, in the run-up to the pivotal South Carolina GOP primary, the Emergency Committee for Israel, run by neoconservative thinker William Kristol, released an ad in which its Director Gary Bauer makes a plea to voters – not endorsing any candidate, rather, telling conservatives that they must reject Congressman Ron Paul as their GOP candidate, deriding his foreign policy views with respect to America’s ‘special relationship’ with Israel, and fighting the War on Terror – concluding that, “We can do better than Ron Paul.”

Should a foreign country, in this case Israel, be allowed to buy a significant influence through the media in American democratic elections? Should candidates be allowed to accept donations – even indirectly, from foreign interest PACs or agents thereof, thus creating a serious conflict of interest, and threat to national security?

[O]ne can only conclude that the American democratic system of elections has been manipulated and twisted to such a degree by powerful special interests, that major elections in the US cannot be classed as either free or fair. Rather they have warped into cynical, stage-managed events, engineered by the few in order to achieve a particular outcome.

This is a great article which I strongly recommend that you read.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
10:04 am

Welcome

Our political system has been thrown so far out of balance because of the rightward surge of the GOP, that I’m not sure if anybody would know true Far-Leftist people if they took a dump on their front porch. The GOP has gone so far right that they probably have some Far-Lefts in their folds blending in perfectly.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
10:08 am

Lemme see if I’ve got this right. Serial adultery, open marriages and passion-ant patriotism are now traditional Christian family values. Does that mean Unmentionable can have it, but I can’t, seeing as how we Chosen are, after all, held to a different standard? Oh, wait, I keep forgetting, gay folks don’t get to play.

If I were a preacher in South Carolina today, my text would be John 11:35.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:08 am

Doggone 9:56

No. Kidding.

meinpvb

January 22nd, 2012
10:09 am

I’m so tired of the opposition telling us who we should run. People fell for it last time and we ended up with McCain. Here’s a better idea. Ya’ll tell us the problem with our candidate and let us tell the problem with your candidate and we’ll go from there. The problem is, God forbid someone complain about God Obama. Then you are called a Nazi, a racist or a “far right wing” fill in the word. Why can’t we call those who oppose Newt a Communist, a race baiter or a “far left wing” fill in the blank? Hope and change has gotten us despair debt.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
10:11 am

Michael

January 22nd, 2012
10:11 am

Yes and SC is a good example of that. Someone said it is too big to be an insane asulym and too small to be a country. They have old ways over there, perhaps dating back 100 years. Jim Demint, what can I say about the man that is good. Nada.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:12 am

Mitt supposedly to release tax returns Tuesday

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:12 am

Trotsky
Jinx

St Simons - we're on Island time

January 22nd, 2012
10:14 am

Newt – Freaker of the Spouse

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
10:14 am

Though many of us always saw through their disgusting hypocrisy and unashamed unChristianity, it, it is a fact now.

The evangelical wing of the GOP has become the sleazeball wing.

“To a degree, it will give [evangelical voters] pause, but there’s a much more insatiable appetite to defeat President Obama,” said David Brody, chief political correspondent at CBN News at the Christian Broadcasting Network.

“Gingrich has never claimed to be a patron saint,” Brody said. “People have known for years about Gingrich’s marriage issues. In a way, his well-known history of troubled marriage works for him here.”

There you have it, being a cheating, lying, rutting in the filth pig works well for him with the SC Christians…

Recon 0311 2533

January 22nd, 2012
10:15 am

Well meaning Democrats don’t even recognize that their party has been Hijacked by the far left. That’s a pretty potent spell or potent kool-aid. I’m out…happy football Sunday.

Finn McCool

January 22nd, 2012
10:16 am

Romney to release tax returns on Tuesday – about time.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:16 am

Look boss! Up in the sky! It’s de regulations! They implemented Republican air quality standards. I wonder what the water looks like. Tastes like. Smells like.

asdfjkl;

January 22nd, 2012
10:17 am

As I predicted from the debate earlier this week, Gingrich won because he’s been a better debater and he has been able to handle criticism from the media better than the other candidates.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:17 am

Southern politics is like SEC football

And southern governors make better presidents than yanks

I don’t care which party they come from

But I’m certain I will have to vomit if I have to choose between newt and Obama

Recon 0311 2533

January 22nd, 2012
10:18 am

Off to my Christian Evangelical church where many feel that Romney’s the better pick. Later

md

January 22nd, 2012
10:18 am

“Why can’t we call those who oppose Newt a Communist, a race baiter or a “far left wing” fill in the blank? Hope and change has gotten us despair debt.”

Because some of us don’t like either……….

The only way I’d vote Obama is if I was assured Congress would go all “R”…….and since that isn’t one of our options, I’ll once again be stuck with 2 choices neither of which I care much for…..

Stagger the vote for Congress and the Presidency ever 2 years and “force” the misfits to represent the masses…….these dang “mandates” are killing us…………..

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
10:19 am

And so you libs must be willing to live with this utter failure in the WH, even give him another term to finish what he started….. making this country the socialistic capital of the free world. He isn’t finished yet…. that pesky 2011 midterm election, you remember that, don’t you? The biggest political turnaround in recent political history and it really fu*ked up his agenda, didn’t it? The party of No…. more like the party of Hell No. Seems that the majority of Americans just are not happy living in a Bozo America. And all of you who voted for this abject clown are more to blame than he is. He told America what he was going to do and you still voted his sorry ass into office. Some kind of Hope and Change thing. Well, it has not worked and you know it. Anyone with even half a brain can recognize failure. All he can do is throw money at our problems….. hell, anyone could do that. So let’s hear it for our failed social experiment, that one moment that was supposed to take away all of the liberal guilt and make us whole again.

Rightwing Troll

January 22nd, 2012
10:19 am

“Well meaning Democrats don’t even recognize that their party has been Hijacked by the far left. That’s a pretty potent spell or potent kool-aid. I’m out…happy football Sunday.”

There’s something terribly ironic about this being posted today, after Newt’s big victory… talk about drinking the kool-aid…

Stevie Ray

January 22nd, 2012
10:20 am

Newt can fool the folks in SCarolina but I sure hope the balance of the states will see through his shoutdowns and vailed sleazy politics. We need a good competition which, sadly, I think only Romney can provide. One favorable thing about Romney is that I think he is the least corruptable of all, especially our incumbent…

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
10:20 am

Fox’s Dr. Keith Ablow: “Gingrich’s Three Marriages Mean He Might Make A Strong President”

now I’ve heard it all

md

January 22nd, 2012
10:21 am

“Mitt supposedly to release tax returns Tuesday”

Bet it will be a big let down when folks find out he has……..money.

Really, the guy that we all knows has money really does have money…………no sh*t.

bman

January 22nd, 2012
10:21 am

It would be entertaining to watch a series of Obama + Newt debates.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:21 am

Joe Paterno is gone.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:24 am

I might just have to vote for Newt in the Georgia primary. After all, isn’t that who Deal supports and I wouldn’t want to go against the choice of the Georgia majority. :lol:

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
10:24 am

Kayaker – why don’t you put down the pipe.

do you EVER post anything but utter nonsense?

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:26 am

Mitt gets to keep more of his money than Newt and Newt knows that ain’t right. No. He knows that is right. No. He knows he’s right and Mitt’s right but Mitt’s not right. Right.

Rightwing Troll

January 22nd, 2012
10:27 am

Kayaker, you need to get massage or something brother… calm down… after the previous 8 years and looking at what you were willing to settle for after W’s disasterous reign, we really had no choice. Even now, you and yours can’t come to acknowledge the W years and the extreme damage it did to our country, and you seem angry that you and yours are simply not trusted any more than Obama is as a result of your blind allegiance to party that crushed our economy, after ENRON you doubled down, after Tora Bora you declared MISSION ACCOMPLISHED (Iwas under the mistaken impression that our mission was to kill or capture OBL, not let him ride free on a donkey), when you were taken to task for your party’s lies and resulting groupthing on non existent WMD’s, you blew the cover on a covert CIA operative… It goes on and on…

So please spare us your sanctimonious bull$hit, you sir are as much to blame for the situation our country is in as anybody, as you had a chance to correct it in 2004, but chose to double down…

Stevie Ray

January 22nd, 2012
10:27 am

Why does evangelical activities include “actively expressing and sharing the gospel”? If it weren’t for this, especially in politics, more respect would follow…,

josef

January 22nd, 2012
10:27 am

jm

Maybe. But Newt’s not a Southerner. He’s a Carpetbagger.

BTW, jm, what’s with the Trotsky? Not following you there….

And folks, we can blame Newt’s win on our prejudiced opinions of the people of South Carolina, but that’s only good for so far…there’s plenty more to go we’ll have to be looking for, Better we look at the demographic breakdown of where he steamrolled…all of them, except the over $200,000 a year income (Romney), the phD level (Romney) and the 18-35 (Paul)…the future of the GOP from the looks of this is the Brown Shirts…

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:28 am

kayaker71: Now you know how we felt during King Dumbass the First’s two reigns.

Too bad!

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
10:28 am

Then there’s that pesky report of Bozo’s business associates who were each handed a 5 figure settlement to keep the lid on something that had to do with familiarization or something like that. Looks like a third one has shown up to verify the claim. Ought to be front page news in the NYT…or perhaps the Enquirer will come up with something. Vetting…… looks like someone dropped the ball.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:29 am

Md

I agree. And if that is the only revelation, mitt is a patsy for not releasing them earlier

Did he think he wasn’t going to get a proctologist’s exam when running for president?

Rightwing Troll

January 22nd, 2012
10:29 am

Again, Newt has the best ideas I’ve heard in this campaign, Newt speaks some truths, even if we can’t bear to hear it, he’s simply to much of a meglomaniac, and too unpredictable to be trusted, he MIGHT be a good choice for VP. Too bad Mittens is such a worthless idiot…

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:31 am

Josef

Yes I know newts a bagger

I was thinking more generally about how worthless northern politicians are

Welcome to the occupation and “Trotsky” (formerly) are the same poster

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
10:31 am

And so you libs must be willing to live with this utter failure in the WH, even give him another term to finish what he started…..

Well, have you ever thought that the libs are simply going by what the cons did in 2004? After all, libs considered Bush an utter failure, yet cons gave him another term to finish what he started. Turnabout is fair play.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
10:32 am

The Lion in Winter is coming on…are Newt and Callista watching?

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:32 am

The newt is a fred.fan lobbyist that helped deregulate the banks.

The newt helped cause the collapse and will implode when asked about these facts.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
10:34 am

@Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:02 am

The American democratic system of elections has been manipulated and twisted.

They have warped into cynical, stage-managed events, engineered by the few in order to achieve a particular outcome.
*****************************************************************************

The Republican primary is a stage-managed CIRCUS.

Newt, Mitt, Rick and Paul are the clowns that should not be taken seriously.

Non of them have offered any solutions only what Obama has done or not done..

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:34 am

Newt is just another g-damn snake oil salesman

Jesus

Road Scholar

January 22nd, 2012
10:36 am

Good Morning, Bro. I think that the PACS have thrown the system out of balance. Huge sums of money “no one” is responsible for their messages and, accuraccy is not even attempted by many of the adds. Quite the contrary. The far right wing has always bordered on the ridiculous as has the far left. It’s the money and thus the access to unchecked inuendo and the ability to get it “published” that will cause both parties and our nations demise.

What was very humorous was Boehmer today on tv stating we need infrastructure spending . What the hell has he done to get not just a status quo, but an increase in funding in response to the Bush administration ignoring the nations infrastructure needs and improvements? No money? No user fee increases? Tax cuts? If we could find a way to make BS into concrete, then maybe he would have something!

As for the pipeline decision, the conserves on the Ga Gang stated the decision will remove jobs…jobs that aren’t there now! They also said that when gas goes up to $5 a gallon, people will want to know why the decision to wait was made. Phil and the host said that this pipeline would keep gas prices down. Idiots, it has to be built first! And it won’t be built in months, it will take years to build a 17000 mile pipeline.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:36 am

And the sad part is willard losing to the newt

How in the world could you lose to the newt jm?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:36 am

SoCoBro: I refuse to watch those paid political campaign ads that are mislabeled as debates. The idea of a debate is to stake a position and use factually laden dialogue to back your position. This crap they do every election is nothing more than a sham uses to hide the fact that we are being played for fools.

Word.

Stevie Ray

January 22nd, 2012
10:36 am

TROLL,

Not a big Bush fan either but how do you think your inept pal BO would have responded to 911…the worst tragedy on US soil in our history? BO is a spine-less, leadership devoid, typical electorate who has no respect for our tax money…no different than Bush that you bash with typical left soundbites…

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Can Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
10:38 am

@bman

January 22nd, 2012
10:21 am
It would be entertaining to watch a series of Obama + Newt debates.
*******************************************************************************************

Its going to be a barn burner.

Newt has met his intellectual match…..Obama.

Obama will not stoop to Newt’s level. Obama will take the high road and Newt will wither like the green grass.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:39 am

scalia says the easy solution for super pacs is turn off the tv.

Lets turn off the corrupt sc instead.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:39 am

Stevie Ray

January 22nd, 2012
10:40 am

BO’s early campaign rhetoric is great comedic fodder…let’s go another 4 years and finish that change thing we sold you in 2008….It is likely his sole claim to fame is his healthcare 2000 page missive jammed thru a congress strife with healthcare cash…the states will either go bankrupt or be seen as “not wanting to further help the poor…Medicaid already takes up the lions share of states budgets…Ridiculous

josef

January 22nd, 2012
10:41 am

Stevie Ray…

How would BO have responded to 9/11…in the first few days or later? In the first few days I would say pretty much the way Bush did. And the country, left, right, center and independent would have come in behind him, just like they did Bush…

Road Scholar

January 22nd, 2012
10:41 am

How many years of tax returns is Romney releasing? I’d like to see about 5 to compare his “economy”!

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:42 am

Getalife

Mitt is competent and decent

But brittle and lacks in some self confidence frankly

It is mind boggling

I’ll vote for mitt over Obama

But I recognize mitt has weaknesses

They happen to be far less of a problem than obama’s weaknesses

md

January 22nd, 2012
10:42 am

“I think that the PACS have thrown the system out of balance. ”

The PACS are nothing but another voice to counter the “media”, which has been touting “it’s” agenda for years, but most folks can’t even see that.

The media should be there to report, not dictate their views…….and that applies to both sides.

That is what Citizens United was all about………………..neutering the unutterable………

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:42 am

Scholar: The far right wing has always bordered on the ridiculous as has the far left. It’s the money and thus the access to unchecked inuendo and the ability to get it “published” that will cause both parties and our nations demise.

Wasn’t it Ben Franklin that said that our demise would not come from outside but from within? Prophetic.

Ga Gang stated the decision will remove jobs…jobs that aren’t there now! They also said that when gas goes up to $5 a gallon, people will want to know why the decision to wait was made. Phil and the host said that this pipeline would keep gas prices down. Idiots, it has to be built first! And it won’t be built in months, it will take years to build a 17000 mile pipeline.

If i was on that panel i would of asked them three simple questions:

a) is there a guarantee that the oil would be used ONLY for american consumption if the pipeline was built?

b) are the (supposed) jobs to become guaranteed american jobs and not jobs to people from other countries?

c) with the pipeline built, can we, the people, finally NOT have to pay gas companies billion dollar subsidies to stay in business?

Rightwing Troll

January 22nd, 2012
10:44 am

“Not a big Bush fan either but how do you think your inept pal BO would have responded to 911…the worst tragedy on US soil in our history?’

He would killed OLB… Oh wait… he DID kill OBL… MISSION ACCOMPLISHED (for real this time).

Now bring our boys home.

Road Scholar

January 22nd, 2012
10:45 am

getalife: I agree but when the nightly news plays the damn stuff as a lead in to their story, or as it influences those who don’t know better, they need to go. “Legalized” lying!

Stevie Ray

January 22nd, 2012
10:45 am

Josef,

I don’t disagree however IMO, Bush defaulted on every future decision to security…clearly crossing the line but he did an effective job re-establishing an intelligence network that was waxed by his predecessor. It’s a shame but I think Bush was so concerned about his happening again on his watch, every decision made for the balance of his 2 terms were impacted by this…I doubt BO or any other president would have done different…

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:45 am

Md 10:42

Liberals are clueless

You would think they could at least digest the facts behind the election that happened 24 hours ago, but apparently not

Mitt outspent newt 2-1 in SC. And lost big

Money matters only in a minor way

Liberals, just shut up about pac’s and money for gods sake

Rightwing Troll

January 22nd, 2012
10:46 am

This pipeline, evidently is the ONE and ONLY hope to save our economy and get millions of americans working again… You wingnuts do realize that unionized folks will undoubtedly be working on it, right?

Stevie Ray

January 22nd, 2012
10:47 am

SCHOLAR,

Why on earth does it matter how much Romney made or paid in taxes so long as his returns indicate no tax code violations?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
10:47 am

Stevie Ray…

While I am far from a fan of the Fierce Advocate, he DID sign the repeal of DADT. I can’t see any of the others doing that… that may not seem like much to you, but it sure is over at our place…

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:49 am

Midori: “Gingrich’s Three Marriages Mean He Might Make A Strong President”

now I’ve heard it all

HAHAHA!!! Talk about drinking kool-aide! They must’ve added some moonshine into theirs :roll:

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:49 am

Stevie ray 10:47 bingo

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
10:50 am

Road Scholar

I think our system was FUBARed before the PAC era reached full throttle. The recent stuff with PAC spending has been going on for a long time. I find it hard to believe that a system could be set up and run as efficiently and ruthlessly as they do in such a short time. The only thing PACs have done is taken what was going on in the shadows and put it on full display for all to see.

In reference to the gas issue and prices, as much as people want to blame it on Obama, if I were his strategist, I’d make sure he takes full credit for it. That way, when people say that Obama’s anti-business and anti-free market, I would go back and show that our top export last year was gas and other refined fuels. Demand is down in the US but prices are going up. In a true free market situation, that would not happen. However, in a global market, our demand here has little effect on prices worldwide. That’s why gas prices are going up. It has nothing to do with pipeline building or anything else.

That pipeline is wanted by the oil companies to boost the amount of oil they can refine and sell on the open market. With demand going up around the world, those oil companies do not give a sh*t if gas prices go up here or not. Higher prices equal higher profits. Our prices are affected more by outside influences now. You would think that a “Center-Right” country would appreciate free market principles at work. I have yet to hear ANY media outlet, whether liberal or conservative, focus on that aspect when talking about gas prices.

The problem this country faces is a lack of educated voters. If we all tuned out this liberal/conservative bullsh*t and paid attention to only the facts present, we could straighten things out in this country without all the bullsh*t we’re currently being exposed to.

Stevie Ray

January 22nd, 2012
10:52 am

Josef,

The DADT was a terrific win…I’m of the opinion that as long as our electorate are using our tax dollars to pay back bundlers et all and otherwise enhance net worth, all this RED v BLUE crap is hand-jive. Of course BO has nothing on any previous adminstration on this front but his flip flopping on the telecom thingy, prosection of evil wall street greedies, and the promise to prosecute those in the Bush adminstration as promised are solely due to his need for cash…

Road Scholar

January 22nd, 2012
10:52 am

Jm: It appears that you are for censorship? How about if those ads included stuff like Newt/Mitt/President Obama are child molesters? That’s ok? Before you get indignant, what checks and balances are there to not allow this to happen? The intelligence of the American voter? The same voters you contend are not smart?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:53 am

TaxPayer: Mitt gets to keep more of his money than Newt and Newt knows that ain’t right. No. He knows that is right. No. He knows he’s right and Mitt’s right but Mitt’s not right. Right.

Unfortunately TP I’m gonna have to steal that paragraph from you and probably paste it unto another blog(s) — it’s too classic to be glossed over and possibly missed here and it should be seen by everyone — not just the folks on JBs blog.

Also, I’m going to have to take credit for such a great post. Unfortunately. :)

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:55 am

An ode to Callister’s har-doo!

Callista’s hairdo is not a “physical attribute”. It is a monumental accomplishment of technology and engineering. Likely itself a spinoff technology of advanced aerospace research, it vividly demonstrates decades of advances in chemistry, biology, material science, physics and quite possibly top secret discoveries made in a remote government facility somewhere in the deserts of Nevada.

Can it even be said to be a part of Callista the person anyway? Maybe it posses an individual intelligence and purpose, having come from outer space, landed on her head, and attached itself to her circulatory system for nourishment.

Maybe it repels government mind-control rays. Maybe it is a helmet of some kind.

Is it waterproof? Has she ever been seen in a wind?

How does she sleep on it, and how does it retain its shape the next day? Does it snap back like a crushable felt fedora?

And why? Why would anyone voluntarily want that on their head.

But to call this hairdo a mere “physical attribute” rather than a mystery so deep it may expand our knowledge of the universe, fails to fully appreciate the awesome phenomenon that is Callista Gingrich’s hairdo.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439×2455810

josef

January 22nd, 2012
10:56 am

Stevie Ray
On the 9/11 thingie, I don’t think, however, that Obama would have squandered the worldwide sympathy and good will the way Bush did…

md

January 22nd, 2012
10:57 am

“Why on earth does it matter how much Romney made or paid in taxes so long as his returns indicate no tax code violations?”

Might want to pose that question to Newt and the Rick brothers………

josef

January 22nd, 2012
10:58 am

Sooth

I would posit she wears the tin hat in that family! :-)

md

January 22nd, 2012
10:58 am

“How about if those ads included stuff like Newt/Mitt/President Obama are child molesters? That’s ok? Before you get indignant, what checks and balances are there to not allow this to happen?”

And you can pose that question to Dan………………

364 more days

January 22nd, 2012
10:59 am

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
10:19 am

AMEN

Donovan

January 22nd, 2012
10:59 am

The only nightmare is the one coming to the Democrat Party. Don’t worry about the GOP, worry about Newt coming to the American electorate and eloquently exposing your failed Camelot.

I like Mitt, don’t get me wrong. Mitt is a nice guy and that’s the problem. He’s so nice that you people would have a far easier time in tryng to destroy him. No wonder you liberals want him to be the GOP nominee.

The problem with the GOP is its accomodation to opposite side of the aisle. It does not rely on deception, smear tactics, misinformation, or giving away the store to buy votes in order to stay in power. It does not try to enslave its electorate with entitlements, but tries to instill self-reliance and fiscal responsibility. Unfortunately, such bitter medicine is hard to swallow for 50% of the country that relies on government hand-outs.

Whenever the Republican Party comes into power it is assaulted by the Democrat Party with such propaganda, class warfare, misinformation, and outright contempt that the GOP looses focus while trying to appease its attackers. This tactic has served the Democrat Party well for decades.

We all know that the Democrat Party is larger by its sheer number in size. When it acts like the Santa Claus Party to illegal immigrants, minorities, labor unions, left wing environmental kooks, elitist intellectuals, Occupy types, and just plain stupid people it is difficult to preach self-reliance.

Even though the GOP controlled the House, Senate, and WH at one time not too long ago, it seemed that the Democrats were running the show. Why? Moderation and appeasement, in order to keep the Democrats happy.

This is exactly why Mitt is the wrong man for the job. He’s too nice and too moderate. You know it and I know it. Conversely, you all know that Newt is a bigger threat because he is not afraid to expose your scam on the American public. He takes away the advantage that you all have enjoyed for decades.

He is your worse nightmare.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
11:00 am

The PACS are nothing but another voice to counter the “media”, which has been touting “it’s” agenda for years, but most folks can’t even see that.

How can one counter the media when it’s being used by the same “media”? PACs have to pay the “media” for airtime, right? If the media is pushing an agenda, doesn’t it further their agenda to sell airtime to PACs pushing a favorable message? Even if they’re selling airtime for a message they don’t agree with, the endgame is still $$$. That money earned ends up back into the hands of a PAC somewhere down the road to do the same thing again.

Road Scholar

January 22nd, 2012
11:00 am

Stevie Ray: By seeing numerous years, we can see a trend, and if Romney is “padding” his latest years return. Didn’t you hear him duck the question concerning his income and how complete a tax return would be provided. This is one thing I do not like about Romney; he is too coy at times. I am not saying he has to lay everything out there, but show me your history!

Bro: Good response.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:00 am

Stevie Ray

I can half-way overlook a lot of his lack of backbone and too willing compromise, but what I can NOT overlook is his sale of habeas corpus down the river…

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:01 am

Also, I’m going to have to take credit for such a great post. Unfortunately.

It’s the right thing to do. :smile:

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:01 am

Road scholar

You must have the wrong guy

Because none of those apply to me

People will run false advertising if they want

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
11:02 am

No response to the crack cocaine smoking and getting a BJ in the back seat of a limo in Chicago in 1999. Larry Sinclair has names and dates and places where this occurred. Sounds a little like Herman….. forced him to drop out of the race. The most homophobic ethnic group, the black community, might not look too favorably on this little episode, either. That’s three people in the loop. Someone is going to come up with the truth before long. Wonder how Michelle is going to feel about that? Gay rights advocate….. opponent of Prop 8….. reversed DADT……. Just to be fair and balanced, perhaps Bookman should run a thread. Just to be fair and balanced.

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:03 am

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:04 am

AGAIN with the Larry Sinclair! OY!

md

January 22nd, 2012
11:05 am

“How can one counter the media when it’s being used by the same “media”? PACs have to pay the “media” for airtime, right? If the media is pushing an agenda, doesn’t it further their agenda to sell airtime to PACs pushing a favorable message? Even if they’re selling airtime for a message they don’t agree with, the endgame is still $$$. That money earned ends up back into the hands of a PAC somewhere down the road to do the same thing again.”

Yes…..all true. But it comes down to suits……the suits making the decisions aren’t restricted to the ones behind the media. PACS will get their message out……one way or the other and not allow the other “suits” to dictate when and how……to many avenues now available……..

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:05 am

Sooth

Grow up

There are plenty of other reasons to criticize newt

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:05 am

In debates between Gingrich and Obama, Obama would win hands down on the intellectual acumen, substance, and gentlemanly presentation. Unfortunately, he’s no good at quasi-literate pomposity and hot air bombast, and that’s what will “win” the debate. The dog third will win that one with no competition.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:07 am

That is what Citizens United was all about………………..neutering the unutterable

They sure did “neuter” ole Romney. I bet he thanks them for it too, since turnabout equaling fair play and all……

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
11:08 am

PACS will get their message out……one way or the other and not allow the other “suits” to dictate when and how……to many avenues now available……..

I see what you’re saying, and somewhat agree with it. However, as long as media groups and/or owners are pushing vast sums of money into PACs, you can’t sell me on the idea that there is no collusion in effect somewhere.

md

January 22nd, 2012
11:09 am

“They sure did “neuter” ole Romney. I bet he thanks them for it too, since turnabout equaling fair play and all……”

Think it’s ugly now? Just wait for the general…….it will be no holds barred………I think we are on the threshold of a new definition of “ugly”…….

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:10 am

Now here’s the feller what’s gonna get my vote!

Jm: why on Earth would I want to grow up! This is way too much fun!

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:10 am

Does anyone have any clue what newt would actually and reliably do as president?

I sure as heck don’t.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:10 am

Sooth

You might as well steel yourself for the Larry Sinclair et al…it’s just now heating up. Never mind the veracity, with Newt and his moral degeneracy now acceptable, it’s all they’ve got left. I don’t look forward to this…but it’s coming, you can bet on that…

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
11:11 am

josef

In a true debate, that “quasi-literate pomposity and hot air bombast” would have one run offstage quite quickly. The things we see on tv that are called debates are nothing more than campaign infomercials. It takes a huge stretch of the imagination to refer to those things as debates. That’s why I choose not to watch them.

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
11:11 am

Sooth,

that is a really funny picture.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:11 am

Vote for me because I shouldn’t have to pay more taxes than Mitt. — Newt

Vote for me. Here. Have some pocket change. — Mitt

Mitt only paid 15% in taxes and I’m really, really, really, really, really pro-life so vote for me. — Rick

Hello. Hello. What am I, Invisible. What’s a guy gotta do to get a little respect around here. — Ron

md

January 22nd, 2012
11:11 am

“However, as long as media groups and/or owners are pushing vast sums of money into PACs, you can’t sell me on the idea that there is no collusion in effect somewhere.”

soco…..in a 2 party system, there has always been some form of collusion…..after all, there are basically only 2 choices…….my guy or the other guy.

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
11:12 am

joseph,11:10,

Any truth to all of this?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:12 am

Jm

What would Newt do as President? Make us long for the days of James Buchannan?

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:13 am

Does anyone have any clue what newt would actually and reliably do as president?

Make everyone else sit in the back of the plane.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:13 am

k71: No response to the crack cocaine smoking and getting a BJ in the back seat of a limo in Chicago in 1999. Larry Sinclair has names and dates and places where this occurred. Sounds a little like Herman….. forced him to drop out of the race. The most homophobic ethnic group, the black community, might not look too favorably on this little episode, either. That’s three people in the loop. Someone is going to come up with the truth before long. Wonder how Michelle is going to feel about that? Gay rights advocate….. opponent of Prop 8….. reversed DADT……. Just to be fair and balanced, perhaps Bookman should run a thread. Just to be fair and balanced.

You wanna response? Here it goes, (I wrote a song about it).

Obama is president, doo dah, doo dah
Obama is president, oh doo dah dayyyyy

Trying to cheat by getting him thrown off of states’ ballots won’t work
Doo dah doo dah

Trying to call him a closet homosexual won’t work…
Doo dah doo dah

Your Birther lies won’t even work
Doo dah doo dah

Trying to find a candidate to beat him won’t work
Oooooo Dooooo Dahhhhhh Dayyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:15 am

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:15 am

Weakness jm.

That is a losing argument because our President crushed aq, obl and daffy.

He won his war.

What else you got?

Nothin.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:16 am

kayaker

Not being snippy when I say this…but how would I know? I seriously doubt it,at least as it’s being touted, or it would have already been trotted out. Would it surprise me? Not at all. Nothing “straight” folks do along those lines would surprise me, and that applies to all sides of the poltical, social, and religious divide.

Paulo977

January 22nd, 2012
11:16 am

Josef
How would BO have responded to 9/11…in the first few days or later?
_________________________
Not sure whether there would have been a 9/11 for BO to respond to!

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:17 am

And we all thought Gnute was going to fade into that dark night. Unbelievable.

I can’t wait to see the next SNL!

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:17 am

Josef 11:12 probably

I might as well add to the list: Newt would probably boink ever available woman in the whitehouse

Assuming calista agreed to that open marriage thing

Swingers in the whitehouse….. Party on

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
11:17 am

Brosephus- I would go back and show that our top export last year was gas and other refined fuels

Thanks to the EPA, we haven’t built a new refinery in the US for over 30 years. We actually have to import gas instead of crude as we no longer have the ability to produce our own.

So much for the Dept of Energy.

md

January 22nd, 2012
11:18 am

Is it just me, or are the gremlins back? Posts are again appearing above others that were not there originally…….time for a break, don’t feel like scrolling up all the time to figure out what I missed….

md

January 22nd, 2012
11:20 am

“That is a losing argument because our President crushed aq, obl and daffy.

He won his war.”

Then why are our boys still dieing?

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:23 am

Getalife

Obama fights wars

Mitt wants to grow the economy

I’m for jobs and mitt

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:24 am

Soothsayer @ 11:17 – you are sooooo badddd!

==============================

josef: Unfortunately, he’s no good at quasi-literate pomposity and hot air bombast, and that’s what will “win” the debate. The dog third will win that one with no competition.

I’m betting that Obama, like every other black kid in america, knows how to play the dozens. He might be a little rusty, growing up in Hawaii and all, but since he spent some time on Chicago’s southside, he’s had some practice.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:24 am

How would BO have responded to 9/11…in the first few days or later?

To start with, the Obama administration would not have ignored the Clinton administration’s warnings.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:25 am

md,

Cleaning up w’s mess in Afghanistan .

It is ending.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:26 am

PAULO

I disagree. 9/11 would have still taken place. That was something none of us were prepared for and was something far removed from our domestic politics. It wouldn’t have mattered who was in office, imo.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:27 am

Nothing “straight” folks do along those lines would surprise me, and that applies to all sides of the poltical, social, and religious divide.

As my friend Raphael says to me all the time – “There are no straight people, only people who are confused about which way to zag.”

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:27 am

Does anyone know how many aq are left?

Road Scholar

January 22nd, 2012
11:29 am

JKL2: Why should the petroleum companies build new refineries? Aren’t they making record profitsd with the ones they got? Especially when they take one down for maintenance durin a season where gas demand is up?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:29 am

DDR

THAT would be fun…! Yo mama so fat she got her own zip code!

md

January 22nd, 2012
11:31 am

Last one for now, but too funny how many crystal balls folks seem to have……..might want to use them to forecast the lottery numbers vs what BO would or wouldn’t have done prior to 9/11.

granny godzilla

January 22nd, 2012
11:32 am

First Mitt didn’t want to give the democrats the present of his tax returns then we get the present of a Newt win in SC.

The GOP presents all the sleaze and drama of a soap opera for the American people to watch as the economy improves and wars end
all courtesy of President Barack “No Drama” Obama.

I love American politics!

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
11:32 am

Debbie, 11:27,

Does that apply to our illustrious President?

Road Scholar

January 22nd, 2012
11:33 am

Would President Obama escorted the Saudis out of the country?

Don't Forget

January 22nd, 2012
11:33 am

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:10 am

Does anyone have any clue what newt would actually and reliably do as president?

Probably buzz Bill Clinton’s house in Air Force One all day.

Mick

January 22nd, 2012
11:34 am

josef

Trying to speculate on events of the past and how outcomes might have differed is a nice parlor game, the reality is that we only have two speeds; right now and tomorrow. I would dare say that most who broach the subject are just trying to stir up some trouble, it’s a nice tool of distraction from reality…

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
11:34 am

-Donovan

Well said. The worst of Bush is considered to be the best of obama, yet the left is still throwing knives at Bush while obama is the mesiah for doing the same things.

I could never understand how people can support someone who’s goal is to divide the country country between black/white, rich/poor, and Proletariat/Bourgeoisie. The “great uniter” who’s done nothing but rip our country apart.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:35 am

Our corrupt government does not act until folks get killed.

Most should do us all a favor and resign in disgrace.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
11:36 am

Brosephus: “The GOP has gone so far right that they probably have some Far-Lefts in their folds blending in perfectly.”

Good point.

No fan of Glenn Beck obviously, but one area where he actually did have some insight is on the fact that beyond a certain point, left and right can sometimes become very blurry.

A fact that Newt Gingrich also understands very well too, by the way.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
11:37 am

Thanks to the EPA, we haven’t built a new refinery in the US for over 30 years. We actually have to import gas instead of crude as we no longer have the ability to produce our own.

http://www.adn.com/2011/12/30/2239859/fuel-leading-us-export-for-first.html

NEW YORK — For the first time, the top export of the United States, the world’s biggest gas guzzler, is — wait for it — fuel.

Measured in dollars, the nation is on pace this year to ship more gasoline, diesel, and jet fuel than any other single export, according to U.S. Census data going back to 1990. It will also be the first year in more than 60 that America has been a net exporter of these fuels.

Just how big of a shift is this? A decade ago, fuel wasn’t even among the top 25 exports. And for the last five years, America’s top export was aircraft.

The trend is significant because for decades the U.S. has relied on huge imports of fuel from Europe to meet demand. It only reinforced the image of America as an energy hog. And up until a few years ago, whenever gasoline prices climbed, there were complaints in Congress that U.S. refiners were not growing quickly enough to satisfy domestic demand; that controversy appears to be over.

Still, the U.S. is nowhere close to energy independence. America is still the world’s largest importer of crude oil. From January to October, the country imported 2.7 billion barrels of oil worth roughly $280 billion.

Cursory Google search of Top US export 2011 would have found you any number of links to show what I stated. We still import boatloads of crude, but with the demand for gas dropping domestically, oil companies are selling their products worldwide to the highest bidder. It has nothing to do with the EPA or the Dept of Energy. I imagine that the Dept of Commerce would be more at play in this one.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:38 am

MICK

I agree.

Road Scholar

“Would President Obama escorted the Saudis out of the country?”

That’s “some” Saudis, not “the” Saudis, and, yes, he probably would have. He would also have warned us not to attack our Muslim and Middle Eastern heritage neighbors and fellow countrymen, too.

Mick

January 22nd, 2012
11:39 am

brosephus @11:37

Thanks for the info…interesting…very interesting…

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:39 am

Don’t forget :)

Don't Forget

January 22nd, 2012
11:40 am

No fan of Glenn Beck obviously, but one area where he actually did have some insight is on the fact that beyond a certain point, left and right can sometimes become very blurry.

Only in the sense that ideological purity leads to totalitarianism.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:40 am

jkl

“I could never understand how people can support someone who’s goal is to divide the country country between black/white, rich/poor, and Proletariat/Bourgeoisie. The “great uniter” who’s done nothing but rip our country apart.”

Me either. But, hey, look at South Carolina yesterday…same tune, different dance…

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:41 am

I think our President will keep serving after his second term like Clinton and Carter.

He will not hide in a bunker like w and cheney.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:41 am

THAT would be fun…! Yo mama so fat she got her own zip code!THAT would be fun…! Yo mama so fat she got her own zip code!

He can counter with: “Yo mama so dumb they told her it was chilly outside and she ran to get a bowl.”

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
11:42 am

josef, you have made the accurate assessment repeatedly that BHO is mediocre. Nothing worse or better than that.

As for the made up nonsense that the nitwits here who endlessly blubber on about him being the worst ever, I would wager the following.

Every single one of those reality averse radicals voted for George of the Bungle. Twice.

I’d also submit that every single one of them essentially licked his boots for that entire eight year reign of error. And said not the FIRST word about his stunning lack of respect for the United States Constitution and the rule of law (ask the ABA about his serial violations) and the unmatched death and destruction he caused. By every measure and every metric he sucked almost beyond comparison.

And outside of the lunatic fringe this is barely debatable.

Now the more brave of them, years on down the road, of course, timidly agree that he wasn’t the best president. Huge LOL. Like it wasn’t patently obvious 100 days into his first term that he was a bungling sell-out boob???

The result? ALL of this BS about BHO being godawful is simply trying to deflect away from THEIR responsibility for actually electing arguably the worst ever.

Now at least the people of South Carolina desperately want another immoral idiot in the West Wing.

Lovely…

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
11:42 am

Josef
How would BO have responded to 9/11…in the first few days or later?
_________________________
Not sure whether there would have been a 9/11 for BO to respond to!

Exactly.

That’s the thing about playing the “what if” game.

In the world of “what if”, all “what ifs” are equally true.

Don't Forget

January 22nd, 2012
11:44 am

Al Gore would have bored bin laden to death in three month’s, tops.

Mick

January 22nd, 2012
11:45 am

josef

Guess I’m just a drive by today, gotta get outside and do my chores. Thanks to you and so many others holding down the front lines in teaching ! “We are here to learn my brother”, a good friend told me that once and I just love the purity of its simplicity., or is it the simplicity of its purity? Works both ways…

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:45 am

Mediocre?

No he is competent.

w was not.

We need to keep that competent adult in the White House.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:45 am

K71 — or we could say the same thing about Dubya….i mean seriously, after Haggerty, who even knows anymore.

PS: I watched a GREAT documentary on LOGO concerning “closeted” republicans,(they didn’t TARGET these republicans they were making the claim that these were the ones who were fighting so hard against equal rights for gays while being gay themselves). If you get a chance, you should watch it — very eye

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
11:45 am

kayaker71- You wanna response? Here it goes(I even wrote a little song)

Do as I say not as I do, doo dah, doo dah
I can have my cake and eat it too, oh doo dah dayyyyy

Democrats good, Republicans evil
Doo dah doo dah

Trying to call him a closet homosexual won’t work…
Doo dah doo dah

Democrats can compartmentalize so what they do in their private life doesn’t matter
Doo dah doo dah

Trying to find a candidate to beat him won’t work
You wanna response? Here it goes, (I wrote a song about it).

Obama is president, doo dah, doo dah
Obama is president, oh doo dah dayyyyy

Trying to cheat by getting him thrown off of states’ ballots won’t work
Doo dah doo dah

Trying to call him a closet homosexual won’t work…
Doo dah doo dah

Your Birther lies won’t even work
Doo dah doo dah

Trying to find a candidate to beat him won’t work
Doo dah doo dah

Cause stupid people still get to vote
Oooooo Dooooo Dahhhhhh Dayyyyyyyyyyyy!!!

Vote obama. Free money for everyone!

Mick

January 22nd, 2012
11:46 am

jamvet@11:42

Count me in on that eloquent synopsis…

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:47 am

DDR

And he could come back with, “you so ugly yo mama had to tie a poke chop round yo neck to get the dog to play with you…”

ZamVet
Even the moral scandal they’re trying to brew on him now, even IF true, is mediocre given the standards of the day

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:47 am

Jam vet is sinclair’s liberal counterpart

Jamvet, dial into reality

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
11:47 am

Sorry, not sure what happened in duplicating withing my post but you get the idea.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
11:47 am

Mick

If there’s one thing this brother right here does, it’s read. I try to know as much about as many things as possible. Most of the bookmarks on my phone are news outlets, and I go through all of them every day.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
11:48 am

If you’re up for some good comedy, Howie Kurtz is hosting NY Times ombudsman Arthur Brisbane right now to discuss his much-discussed query whether papers should be truth vigilantes.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:49 am

jk,

Yeah, it is dumb.

We get it con.

jm,

There is no whitey tape.

sinclair is not credible.

You got punked.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:49 am

Jkl2

Keep our day job

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
11:49 am

“First rule of Fight Club is – you do not talk about Fight Club.”
–Thomas Jefferson

josef

January 22nd, 2012
11:49 am

DDR

Not to up TMI, but I know at least ONE Republican of note who won’t be jumping on that bandwagon…there IS evidence there…! :-)

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:50 am

Your

Getalife
Sinclair is a joke. So is jamvet

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
11:51 am

joseph- How would BO have responded to 9/11…in the first few days or later?

He would have appointed a czar to look into it, then hired all his friends to do the clean up/rebuilding.

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
11:51 am

I always loved the incisive well-thought-out analysis of Jm. Rather than rely on empty rhetoric, slogans and sound bites, his numerous, detailed counterpoints never fail to make a compelling case.

No wonder he voted for George twice…

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:52 am

“Sinclair is a joke”

You finally got something right jm.

Congrats.

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
11:52 am

Time to go put the finishing touches on a great paddling Out Island kayak. Then to some of the best NFL football of the season. Pulling for a Ravens/San Francisco Super Bowl, although Brady might have other ideas. Have a great Sunday.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:52 am

He will not hide in a bunker like w and cheney

Don’t know about dumbya, but cheney has good reason to hide — there’s probably some crazed, rabid, law and order freak out there who wants to arrest him for war crimes. OR even worse, some hunter with a gun…

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:54 am

“OR even worse, some hunter with a gun…”

He shoots a lawyer in the face and does not even get probation.

He proved nixon was right.

It is not illegal when they break the law.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
11:55 am

kayaker

One thing we agree on is the Ravens. I don’t know how things will turn out, but I’ll watch it unfold in real time.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
11:55 am

josef:

“…………… after the war Massachusetts sold more than a thousand Indians into slavery – perhaps one out of every ten in the region. Most went to the Caribbean, but a few as far away as North Africa.

The historian Alan Gallay has estimated that between 1670 and 1715 English slavers in the South sold somewhere between thirty and fifty thousand native people. So many were exported to New England that most colonies there tried to ban or restrict the trade.

Most slaves were prisoners of war, seized in intertribal conflicts and sold by enemy Indian groups to the English in exchanges for guns, pots and axes.”

“1491 by Charles C. Mann”

By the way ………… an excellent read.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:55 am

No wonder he voted for George twice…

Try again

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
11:56 am

taxpayer- To start with, the Obama administration would not have ignored the Clinton administration’s warnings

The same Clinton who was offered OBL on a plate twice and refused to take him? Clinton didn’t have a plan outside of screwing up our intelligence agencies because he was too worried about them investigating him. Bush was working to correct the problem when the attacks occurred.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
11:57 am

road scholar(?)- Why should the petroleum companies build new refineries?

Jobs. Those little things the left knows nothing about.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:58 am

“Bush was working to correct the problem when the attacks occurred.”

Liar, he ignored the memo and said you covered your a ss now.

Stop lying jk.

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
12:03 pm

BADA BING

January 22nd, 2012
12:04 pm

Skinny obama and fat Newt will look funny together at the Presidential debates.Standing side by side, they will look like the number 10.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
12:05 pm

getalife-

Didn’t realize you were a truther too.

So why didn’t Clinton get OBL again?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
12:05 pm

getalife – he may have shot some guy in the face and didn’t even do probation BUT he DID offer him a “W For President 2004!” bumper sticker! duh!

JKL:You’re spouting nothing more than right wing lies. You want some koolaide with those fries?

barking frog

January 22nd, 2012
12:07 pm

Bada Bing, put callista beside newt and you have 101…

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
12:07 pm

bada bing- Skinny obama and fat Newt will look funny together at the Presidential debates

Newt did say that obama could even use his teleprompter.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
12:08 pm

SCOUT

That 1491 is one good read! I’ve always found it intriguing that the abolitionist movement didn’t take off up North, and especially New England, until their own slaves had been sold down the river (the origins of the phrase) AND the international slave trade had been banned.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
12:10 pm

debbiedoright-

You’re spouting nothing more than left wing lies. You want some koolaide with those fries?

Vote obama. Free money for everyone!

barking frog

January 22nd, 2012
12:12 pm

Newt now believes he has the support of the ultra conservative
wing of the republican party. this was the largest turn out at
a republican primary in SC even though it was raining..seems
to me to be a monument to dedicated democrats and a hollow
victory for newt..

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
12:15 pm

vote mitt — No money for anyone but Mitt.

Vote newt — No Money AND No food for anyone.

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
12:15 pm

All Barry would have to do in any debate is bring up “open marriages” and Newt would blow another gasket and go all Spiro Agnew again.

The decent family man versus the degenerate serial cheater.

Yeah, baby, I’d like to see that too…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fginS6uhw-8&feature=related

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
12:16 pm

this was the largest turn out at
a republican primary in SC even though it was raining..seems
to me to be a monument to dedicated democrats and a hollow
victory for newt..

It’s always the Dems fault………….. :roll:

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
12:19 pm

Out for now — gotta prepare for football.

later gators.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
12:22 pm

The same Clinton who was offered OBL on a plate twice and refused to take him?

When you’ve got no leg to stand on, just move the goalposts.

Clinton didn’t have a plan outside of screwing up our intelligence agencies because he was too worried about them investigating him. Bush was working to correct the problem when the attacks occurred.

Do I hear that conspiracy theory beat?

Do the slack-jaw. Do tee doo, do the slack-jaw, do tee doo.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
12:22 pm

Newt: Notophthalmus, Taricha, Salamandridae
–Thomas Jefferson

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
12:22 pm

jk is a joke.

I thought he was serious.

My bad.

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
12:22 pm

Not that the horn-dog will be elected president in ten lifetimes but in SyFy Land, Laying Leroy could reprise the old saying about Grover Cleveland’s infidelities:

“Ma, ma, Where’s my paw? Gone to the White House, Ha, Ha, Ha.”

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
12:24 pm

Can the newt run?

barking frog

January 22nd, 2012
12:26 pm

Newt may have a free pass to philander since Callista
was o.k. with sharing him…

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
12:27 pm

Getalife 12:24 :)

Probably not

josef

January 22nd, 2012
12:28 pm

frog
@ 12:26
You know, I was wondering about that, too…wonder if she’s okay with sharing the Tiffany account?

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
12:28 pm

Getalife

U might want to consider another line of attack tho

Americans are fat

Therefore, no one votes based on weight

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
12:29 pm

“What you lookin’ at? You all a bunch of f**kin’ a$$holes. You know why? You don’t have the guts to be what you wanna be? You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your f**kin’ fingers and say, “That’s the bad guy.” So… what that make you? Good? You’re not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don’t have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy! Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There’s a bad guy comin’ through! Better get outta his way!”

–Thomas Jefferson

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
12:29 pm

josef:

Yep ………… the real truth of history is seldom taught.

barking frog

January 22nd, 2012
12:29 pm

josef, 12:28, probably not..

wet wiccan

January 22nd, 2012
12:29 pm

Well, well, well …so Newt won SC. He can enjoy this victory, but there is no way he can beat this guy…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-hDt2E8MoE&feature=related

Mick – Look out! The crazy show is coming to your neighborhood next!

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
12:34 pm

“We have nothing to beer, but beer itself.” ~Benjamin Franklin

jonix, check out this strange little ditty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvvruR78mY

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
12:35 pm

The newt runs his mouth.

barking frog

January 22nd, 2012
12:38 pm

http://www.seaturtle.org/tracking/index.shtml?tag_id=113650&full=1&lang=

A sea turtle named Johnny Vasco da Gama was released in Florida and
immediately headed North as he was told a giant Newt would be coming
to Florida in the near future.

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
12:39 pm

wiccan, the prez did the opening part of that wonderful song pretty damn good. But, could he hit those falsetto parts?

LOL.

This white kid will never grow tired of that one, because it is arguably the greatest single R&B song ever.

You make me feel so brand new

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COiIC3A0ROM

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
12:43 pm

welcome- When you’ve got no leg to stand on, just move the goalposts.

Clinton: So we tried to be quite aggressive with them [al Qaeda]. We got – well, Mr. bin Laden used to live in Sudan. He was expelled from Saudi Arabia in 1991, then he went to Sudan. And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America. So I pleaded with the Saudis to take him, ’cause they could have. But they thought it was a hot potato and they didn’t and that’s how he wound up in Afghanistan.

Feel free to keep the goalpast on side, I’ll just take my three points.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2004/apr/15/20040415-094758-5267r/

and it’s good! starting to look like a blow out. (feel free to deflect and start personal assaults like a good democrat now)

Juan Williams - The Senior Black Person at Fox News (Or the only one -- take your pick)

January 22nd, 2012
12:45 pm

Well I did my job, (making Newt look good to the yokels in South Carolina), and I might add I did a damn good job, now I’m off to Florida. Gotta make people forget about their nightmares of Newt in a swimsuit. It ain’t gonna be easy.

Tokens Have Feelings Too.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
12:45 pm

ZamVet

Zo, was gibt’s? Why was it banned already? :-)

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
12:46 pm

getalife- The newt runs his mouth

So you’re saying Newt would be an improvement over current administration. obama can’t run anything.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
12:46 pm

Oooh, The Moonie Times as a reference.

Cool beans!

ragnar danneskjold

January 22nd, 2012
12:47 pm

The Newt victory – and especially the surprising margin – is good for conservatism, not so good for moderate republicans. Newt ran hard as “the conservative,” and Romney ran as a – well, exactly what did he run as? Conservatives want to vote for one who magnifies conservatism.

Romney had a couple of good arguments recently, in defense of capitalism generally, although he was using the argument as straw man to deflect inquiry about his income, about his efforts at Bain Capital generally. But Newt won the SC election with his sound bites at the last two debates, particularly his response to the Juan Williams question.

I think our leftist friends delude themselves with the faux-glee at the thought of President Present debating the Newtmeister. Minds not damaged by drugs will recall that even the wishy-washy McCain out-debated Chauncey at each occasion, and Newt’s intellect will destroy the Oval Office Occupier by merely reciting the record of the past three years. Will be ugly, but of course the past three years have been ugly.

Juan Williams - The Senior Black Person at Fox News (Or the only one -- take your pick)

January 22nd, 2012
12:49 pm

Just because Americans are supposed to have such high moral standards does NOT mean that we can’t arrest and/or detain someone because they didn’t do anything.

Heck, look at Double U and Cheney — they did it all the time. And it made our country safe from ARABS in America. It didn’t however make us safe from Arabs abroad, but we’re gonna keep that little tidbit to ourselves.

A Toking I will go.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

January 22nd, 2012
12:49 pm

Well, howdy everybody. I hope you enjoyed Sunday a.m. services as much as I did. The Rev. Postlewaite was on fire today. Seeing as how old Newt won in SC, his sermon was on the Prodigious Son, about how you could sin and sin and sin but if you Repented and asked for forgiveness everything would be OK. I guess I’ll take his word for it, seeing as how old Newt has a R after his name. It might could be a different story if he was a D. Me, I ain’t never forgetting Clinton and that intern and how he flat-out ruint the morals of a whole generation of kids.

Anyhow, football is coming up and it’s a great day. Got my fried pork skins, got my PBR, and I’m ready to see some people whale the tar out of each other. In a Christian spirit, of course.

Have a great Sabbath everybody.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
12:51 pm

ragnar

” Newt’s intellect will destroy the Oval Office Occupier…”

Newt’s “intellect” will destroy Western Civilization…the Oval Office Occupier is small potatoes…

ragnar danneskjold

January 22nd, 2012
12:57 pm

Dear Josef @ 12:51, good morning, “Newt’s “intellect” will destroy Western Civilization” and we will call it “American Spring.”

Buckeyein Ga

January 22nd, 2012
1:01 pm

Ragnar,
McCain NEVER won a debate with Obama..LOL Joe Scarborugh(sp?) and Tom Coburn to name a couple of Republicans, helped throw Newt out of Congress. This is the guy you think can win it all.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
1:04 pm

redneck- I guess I’ll take his word for it, seeing as how old Newt has a R after his name. It might could be a different story if he was a D

Could be different if he was lying to congress about it. While he was just as morally wrong, Newt didn’t get disbarred over his affairs.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
1:06 pm

JKL2, “And we’d been hearing that the Sudanese wanted America to start dealing with them again. They released him. At the time, 1996, he had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him … ”

But JK, what are you saying were the options given that 9/11 had not happened yet?

Should we have already had a Guantanamo in place then to put someone like an OBL?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
1:08 pm

ragnar

Where’s Aaron Copeland when you need him, eh? :-)

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
1:08 pm

Minds not damaged by drugs will recall that even the wishy-washy McCain out-debated Chauncey at each occasion

I don’t recall the two of them actually ever engaging in a debate. Winners of those media infomercials do not qualify as debate winners in any true sense of the word debate.

Juan Williams - The Senior Black Person at Fox News (Or the only one -- take your pick)

January 22nd, 2012
1:11 pm

josef- You know, I was wondering about that, too…wonder if she’s okay with sharing the Tiffany account?

In my experience it’s OK when you’re the mistress, but NOT ok when you’re the wife. Ask Marianne.

Toking ain’t easy.

Paulo977

January 22nd, 2012
1:13 pm

DebbieDR :OR even worse, some hunter with a gun…!!!!
___________________

Karma!!!

ragnar danneskjold

January 22nd, 2012
1:14 pm

Dear Josef @ 1:07, ha. Quite enough Rodeo for now.

Dear Buckeye @ 1:01, I think a cheese sandwich could defeat the American Apologizer so long as it promised to repeal ObamaCare and Dodd Frank.

Juan Williams - The Senior Black Person at Fox News (Or the only one -- take your pick)

January 22nd, 2012
1:14 pm

Newt didn’t get disbarred over his affairs

Newts not a lawyer.

Toking ain’t easy……..

ragnar danneskjold

January 22nd, 2012
1:18 pm

Lest my notes be misconstrued, I am not yet a Newt man. I remember his slander about Paul Ryan’s brilliant blueprint. Romney could still win me, because his flip flops have all flipped the right way for me – still have a sense he panders, although is that not also true of Newt?

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
1:19 pm

What will the newt say next?

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
1:21 pm

Get

Possibly anything

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
1:24 pm

What will the newt say next?

Whatever it takes.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
1:27 pm

@DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
12:15 pm
vote mitt — No money for anyone but Mitt.

Vote newt — No Money AND No food for anyone.
**********************************************************************************

Mitt and Newt are both Charlatans (someone who leads you to believe something that is not true).

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
1:29 pm

What will the newt say next?

He’s keep saying exactly what he’s always said: America is great, It is great because of free enterprise, it is struggling now bec of the nefarious influence of degenerate statist liberals and their snobbish hatred of your simple virtual way of life, and I’m here to fight against them on your behalf.

It’s on a continuous reel.

Mick

January 22nd, 2012
1:30 pm

BADA BING
@
January 22nd, 2012
12:04 pm

That is freakin funny…

Buckeyein Ga

January 22nd, 2012
1:32 pm

Ragnar,
That’s another issue with Newt. He’s said so many “interesting” things it’s not telling what will come out of his mouth next. Romney has a chance to win the entire thing but I’m curious to see if he bounces back in Fl. There’s a reason why the WH’s ads are aimed at Romney and no one else.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
1:35 pm

We have one new immigrant today!

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-01-22/yemen-s-saleh-departs-for-u-s-with-immunity.html

Immigration is alive and well. If you are our ally

sam

January 22nd, 2012
1:36 pm

at least our president will get to enjoy a nice relaxing sunday….newt for GOP nomination!

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
1:37 pm

Newt’s formula: say the following:

America is great, It is great because of free enterprise (ideological flash word which can equal X, Y, Z, X’, Y’, Z’….. as needed) , it is struggling now bec of the nefarious influence of degenerate statist liberals (flash word that can mean A’, B’, C’, a’, b’, c’ ……. as needed) and their snobbish hatred of your simple virtuous way of life (can mean anything, but in practice means fear of gays, uppity blacks, love of god, church, gods, NASCAR, and P’, Q’, R’, p’, q’, r’ as needed), and I’m not only not one of them, but I’ve done my homework to learn their tricks so I can engage in guerrilla battle against them on your behalf.

Repeat. …..

Juan Williams - The Senior Black Person at Fox News (Or the only one -- take your pick)

January 22nd, 2012
1:37 pm

It’s on a continuous reel.

Yeah, but with my help, it’s working.

Toking ain’t easy

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
1:40 pm

The guy’s stuff was so clean and pure. The layers in this one and the instrumentation are Beatles like…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8AtyaxgtOU&feature=related

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
1:41 pm

John king is a moron

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
1:55 pm

JM – I’m always amazed that you republicans lack reading comprehension and yet you are the main ones that are trying to inflict your version of history and events upon the schools.

I clicked on your link and this is the first thing i saw, (it was in the first paragraph).

Yemen’s outgoing President Ali Abdullah Saleh left for medical treatment in the U.S.

What does MEDICAL Treatment have to do with immigration?

Duh!

Recon 0311 2533

January 22nd, 2012
2:12 pm

Jm,

Gingrich isn’t my guy in this nomination process but it was hilarious seeing the look of embarrassed shame on King’s face when Newt lambasted him.

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
2:14 pm

I think a cheese sandwich could defeat…

The why has she already dropped out of the race?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buMg7cDtlls

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
2:16 pm

King did blow it by deflecting about ABC. But the corporate media trains their pretty boy and girl lackeys not to go for the jugular in those situations.

I would have had Newt crying within thirty seconds…

josef

January 22nd, 2012
2:18 pm

DEL

“…the look of embarrassed shame…”

Now, if we could just get the same from Newt…but, no, he’s PROUD of his transgressions of common morality…and the people of South Carolina, in droves, have turned their backs on their religious principles…heretics!

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
2:21 pm

DDR

You’re nt too bright

Keep reading

It’s cover silly….

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2012
2:21 pm

” have turned their backs on their religious principles”

I would have said “on their RELIGIONS principles” – it’s maybe not so clear the the people actually HAVE religious principles.

JamVet

January 22nd, 2012
2:22 pm

That’s what makes all of this middle school nonsense about the liberal media so hysterical.

When they do have the golden opportunity to hold these sleazebal’s feet to the fire, they ALWAYS give them a pass.

Hell, they don’t even give the professional liars a hard time about not answering the questions!

And when was the last time you ever saw a program about corporate crime?

See no evil…

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
2:25 pm

DDR is a good example of this

Liberals have an inability to read and comprehend the whole story

Recon 0311 2533

January 22nd, 2012
2:28 pm

josef,

I don’t think they’ve turned their back on their religious principals. Some believe Gingrich is a strong conservative. I personally don’t believe that to be true. I think King may have given Gingrich a huge gift just a few days before the S.C. primary election. I think there very well may have been a backlash of undecided voters, of which there were many who’re really voting mostly against perceived media bias than they were for Newt Gingrich.

bman

January 22nd, 2012
2:28 pm

A lot of Republicans don’t seem very happy about Newt winning in S.C. …. Even more democrats seem bothered by his win.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
2:29 pm

JM – good deflecting….. :roll: Duh!

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
2:32 pm

JM is a good example of repugs seeing boogie men everywhere they turn.

JM look out!! Behind you!! It’s the establishment liberal media masking an attempted IMMIGRATION issue!!!!

Run JM!! Ruuuunnnnnnnnnn!!!

Juan Williams - Tokens Have Feelings Too

January 22nd, 2012
2:34 pm

When they do have the golden opportunity to hold these sleazebal’s feet to the fire, they ALWAYS give them a pass

Hence my “covert” actions in South Carolina.

Toking ain’t easy!!

josef

January 22nd, 2012
2:37 pm

DEL

I hold the line on that. They’re heretics, plain and simple, imo. And as for the backlash, I wish I could agree there, too and had it been a single digit margin, I’d take solace in that. After all, we Americans do have a weakness for the kicked puppy…but not to that degree.

Bottom line, whether or not we want to admit it, they’ve sold their souls.

Doggone

Given what we’re seeing here, I don’t think their religious principles and their religion’s principles were ever anywhere near one and the same…they’re worshipers of the false G-d Power, again imo

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2012
2:38 pm

“I don’t think their religious principles and their religion’s principles were ever anywhere near one ”

We’re pretty much in agreement on that.

St Simons - we're on Island time

January 22nd, 2012
2:40 pm

Newt is surging
Pages are nervous
can’t be good for the 3rd Lady

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
2:42 pm

Calista is a swinger.

bman

January 22nd, 2012
2:43 pm

I sort of hope that Newt wins. I really believe the debates would make for many youtube moments.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
2:43 pm

DDR u r making yourself look like an idiot

I’m not a republican and I’m not freaking out over the media

But by all means, keep up your nonsense

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
2:45 pm

Getalife

Maybe she will be newts congressional envoy

I’m sure she can be persuasive among ongressional dbags

Unless the rep is a woman

josef

January 22nd, 2012
2:46 pm

ragnar

I just caught that Rodeo one (a little slow on the uptake here). That was good… :-)

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
2:47 pm

Gabbie giffords dropping out

Probably trauma from thinking about newt

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
2:47 pm

josef:

King David was a SINNER. He committed adultery with Bathsheba and even murder by having her husband killed in battle. There’s probably much more in his life we don’t even know about.

However, he paid for it dearly when he and Bathsheba lost the child of their union. It broke his heart BUT he sincerely repented before God.

God blessed him with a son by the name of Solomon. You know that story but even so …. God later said:

1 Kings 11:4

“As Solomon grew old, his wives turned his heart after other gods, and his heart was not fully devoted to the LORD his God, as the heart of David his father had been.”

Bottom line:

God recognizes true repentance. Whether that is true between He and Newt is between them.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
2:47 pm

Callista better keep an eye on him. After last night, I bet he’s feeling real patriotic…

BTW, Newt, do Rasputin ring a bell?

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
2:48 pm

Newt

The American berlusconi?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
2:49 pm

Sure JM shooorrreeee.

Keep on drinking that koolaide. don’t forget to spice it up with some rum.

Boo!

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
2:52 pm

oooh josef! you’re just too deep! comparing newtie to rasputie! both are/were political idealogues. both used religion as a tool. and both were womanizing scoundrels.

check out the big brains on josef!

St Simons - we're on Island time

January 22nd, 2012
2:56 pm

Mitt was 30% ahead
Newt is 30% head
there’s Herman Cain joke in there, but i’ll stop

bman

January 22nd, 2012
2:57 pm

I don’t think anyone seriously believes that Newt regrets any wrongdoings in past relationships. He may say so, but I doubt anyone is buying it. I do believe that he is with the wife he will probably always be with, and not cheat anymore. He’s 68 and his thoughts are probably on something other than women.

At that age, it’s probably a bit tougher to crank up the ol evinrude. Some of you old-timers probably understand

josef

January 22nd, 2012
2:57 pm

Scout

Keep it up with the two-step if that’s what it takes. I don’t believe it. He’s got too much of a record behind him to get a Papist pass…I mean, making your own children b*stards in the eyes of your Confession…get real.

And in the same camp as David? Yeah. Newt’s “psalms” ain’t in the same category, and he thinks a liar and a lyre are the same thing…But even if we do want to go there,…you can forgive him if you want to, As Phoebe Pember said to Robert E, Lee and Jefferson Davis, “At last I lifted my voice and said, ‘I am blessed to be born of the tribe that doesn’t have to grant foregiveness. I suggest we all become members of the Jewish church until the hostilities have ended. ” She added, “and the gentlemen seconded me forcefully…” :-)

stands for decibels

January 22nd, 2012
3:00 pm

But the corporate media trains their pretty boy and girl lackeys not to go for the jugular in those situations.

I would have had Newt crying within thirty seconds…

Maybe someone went up to John King before the debate and said “Kid, this ain’t your night.”

josef

January 22nd, 2012
3:01 pm

Jm

“The American berlusconi?”

Funny you should say that…one of my Italian colleagues was saying that just the other day.. :-)

bman

I don’t think even his fanatics believe that.

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2012
3:01 pm

“you can forgive him if you want to”

Josef – the way I see it, except for the people directly involved, there’s nothing to “forgive” him for. For instance, he never did anything to ME that needs forgiveness. What I’m finding it hard to do is to excuse him. And to trust him. I don’t see that he’s earned either one.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
3:02 pm

Intrade has Obama up 2% from yesterday at 56%, Gingrich down 2% from yesterday at 9%, Romney down 1% from yesterday at 30%.

http://intrade.com/v4/markets/?eventId=84326

josef

January 22nd, 2012
3:04 pm

Doggone

A good point there…and I certainly second the “excuse” and “trust.” He may well be “reformed,” but it’s a little late in the game for the latter, and I can see no reason for extending the former.

As the pundit put it, even his baggage has baggage.

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2012
3:06 pm

“As the pundit put it, even his baggage has baggage”

It does indeed…and the hardest thing to get back is trust. Once lost, it’s even harder to get back. And every time you do something to lost it, it gets just that much harder. Newt has lost a LOT of trust, a LOT of times.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
3:07 pm

josef:

Here’s my bottom line:

There have been MANY sinful presidents (liberal and conservative) in the White House.

I would rather have a conservative, “forgiven” president in there than a Marxist.

Got to run ………… everyone be nice.

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2012
3:11 pm

“I would rather have a conservative, “forgiven” president in there than a Marxist”

I wonder if Scout will ever realize he’s just said he’d rather believe a lie when choosing for whom to vote?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
3:11 pm

Doggone

Remember the discussion of “pattern of behavior” here? :-)

*************************

I wonder, would Haley Barbour leave his wimminfolk alone with Newt?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
3:12 pm

As it turns out, fundamentalism has its own sense of relativeness…

Doggone/GA

January 22nd, 2012
3:13 pm

“Remember the discussion of “pattern of behavior” here?”

Yup! It’s actually pretty easy to forgive even egregious sins, if you’re in a forgiving mood. It’s getting back that feeling of trust in the forgiven person that is really hard. I suspect that really what’s behind a lot of people who “can’t forgive” – what they really mean is they can’t trust them anymore.

bman

January 22nd, 2012
3:16 pm

does anyone think that Newt can beat Romney? If so, can he beat Obama?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
3:16 pm

Doggone

“…what they really mean is they can’t trust them anymore”

I had never really thought about it that way, but I think that in most of my own cases, that’s it…thanks for the perspective…

—–
out for a bit…back after the Russian hour… :-)

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
3:22 pm

“ATLANTA (AP) -

A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and can’t be president.

It’s one of many such lawsuits that have been filed across the country, so far without success. A Georgia resident made the complaint, which is intended to keep Obama’s name off the state’s
ballot in the March presidential primary.”

Scout made the complaint.

bman

January 22nd, 2012
3:33 pm

getalife .. .. that’s hard to believe !

Mick

January 22nd, 2012
3:41 pm

“With god all things are possible”, works for me-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYRffjwODp8&feature=related

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
3:53 pm

One of you living in Atlanta should file a complaint to see willard’s birth certificate just to be fair.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
3:59 pm

The only reason these suits are coming up, again and again, and more specifically this one right now, is to try to tie Obama up in courts while he should instead be campaigning for reelection. It’s disturbing to me that any judge that thinks this complaint — by a complainant obviously infected by outrageous levels of hatred for Barack Obama and a ridiculous meme stuck in their head by people with no scruples, no less — has any merit whatsoever. Such a judge, in gainful employment with regard to determining the hand of justice and meting out fates to those who cross your nations laws, is a) deluded, and b) woefully uninformed about the state of the world

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
3:59 pm

Scout do you really think that Barack Obama is a “marxist”?

Really, do you believe that?

BADA BING

January 22nd, 2012
3:59 pm

If elected,President Gingrich would represent a large percentage of Americans. Divorced people and overweight people.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
4:03 pm

Judges thinking they can order the President to prove something that’s been proven time and again. Perhaps next, they could demand that he prove that he did not travel to Mars via secret teleportation mission, a la Stargate.

http://freethoughtblogs.com/lousycanuck/2012/01/22/a-judge-in-atlanta-is-suffering-from-an-obama-delusion/

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
4:10 pm

I would rather have a conservative, “forgiven” president in there than a Marxist.

First of all, even Marx himself wasn’t a ‘Marxist’, as he famously pointed out.

But secondly, I would suggest that Obama, who believes in the end of history in the economic sphere and thus in the absolute inevitability of free market capitalism as clearly as anyone ever to hold the office of president. And in that respect — the only important one — Obama is no more a Marxist than, well, Newt Gingrich.

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
4:27 pm

Debbie –

what’s “I’d” like to see is someone take that lunatic Taitz to court for wasting everyone’s time by filing these idiotic lawsuits.

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
4:28 pm

Welcome —

these guys haven’t met or heard a dumb @ss catch phrase they don’t like.

All they do is throw them out there even tho they have no idea wtf they are talking about.

bman

January 22nd, 2012
4:36 pm

Midori .. .. you’re being mean again

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
4:39 pm

bman – your “concern” and .50 won’t even buy me a cup of coffee.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
4:40 pm

You’re right, Midori, I take these guys a little too seriously, give them too much credit.

Can’t help meself sometimes, got to school me some rubes. :)

bman

January 22nd, 2012
4:41 pm

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
4:51 pm

@getalife

January 22nd, 2012
3:22 pm
“ATLANTA (AP) -

A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn’t a natural-born citizen and can’t be president.

It’s one of many such lawsuits that have been filed across the country, so far without success. A Georgia resident made the complaint, which is intended to keep Obama’s name off the state’s
ballot in the March presidential primary.”

Scout made the complaint.
**********************************************************

Since when could an uneducated country redneck file a lawsuit against a president?

Give me a break.

There they go again,,,,,,SPREADING LIES. More lies they tell they hope one will STICK.

I BET $10,000 THAT IS A LIE. ANY TAKERS? :)

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
4:53 pm

Welcome,

take JKL for example. he keeps trotting out that garbage about people voting for Obama just because they want “entitlements”.

just think about that for a minute.

even though it has absolutely no basis in fact and sounds completely retarded, he insists on posting that position at least twice a day.

all I can say is Neal Boortz has some loyal and faithful suckers.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
5:00 pm

@DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
3:59 pm
*********************************************************

Some white people think that they are so superior to blacks that they think they can sue a president.

When pigs FLY. :)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
5:04 pm

Here’s one article you won’t see Scout link to :

Occupy Atlanta gains traction

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/occupy-atlanta-gains-traction-1312584.html

josef

January 22nd, 2012
5:09 pm

Tax cheat

I hate to tell you this, Bubba Superiority, but there’ll be pork in the treetops by morning as Eleanor said…the beauty of our republic and our laws is that anybody can sue anybody…it’s up to the courts to decide whether or not it can proceed…

I can sue you for being a pompous ass, but I doubt a court would hear it…

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
5:18 pm

Midori: “take JKL for example. he keeps trotting out that garbage about people voting for Obama just because they want “entitlements”.

People whose mentality leads them to think in terms of hoarding entitlements will naturally see nothing but entitlement grabbers all around them. :)

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
5:20 pm

@josef

January 22nd, 2012
5:09 pm
Tax cheat

I hate to tell you this, Bubba Superiority, but there’ll be pork in the treetops by morning as Eleanor said…the beauty of our republic and our laws is that anybody can sue anybody…it’s up to the courts to decide whether or not it can proceed…

I can sue you for being a pompous ass, but I doubt a court would hear it…
***********************************************************************************************************

IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.

Your mama like this pompous ass. :)

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
5:22 pm

“When flying pig are outlawed, only outlaws will have flying pigs.”
–Thomas Jefferson

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
5:22 pm

Tax Cheat — please don’t talk to Josef like that.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:22 pm

Midori: what’s “I’d” like to see is someone take that lunatic Taitz to court for wasting everyone’s time by filing these idiotic lawsuits

Me too. And it’ll be a bonus if she has to defend herself!!

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
5:26 pm

josef

January 22nd, 2012
5:27 pm

tax cheat

I didn’t say any court in the land would ACCEPT it…

And my mama didn’t care much for pompous ass…when Daddy’s got pompous, he was shown the door…she liked gentlemen in public and didn’t talk much about what she liked in private…but it wasn’t pompous… :-)

midori

Aw, you’re sweet!

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:28 pm

Tax Cheat – it was like when this guy from Rome kept taking the Mayor of Atlanta to court a couple of years ago, I just didn’t get it. I was like what the heck?!?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
5:31 pm

DDR and midori

Taitz? L-rd, that’s one I’d buy tickets for!

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:32 pm

“He who represents himself has a fool for a client.”

josef

January 22nd, 2012
5:33 pm

DDR

You’re the lawyer-woman, what is the legal term for the charges brought against somebody filing too many frivilous lawsuits?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:33 pm

josef – oh yeah! after she got through ranting and raving the nice men in those clean white coats will come and take her away. finally.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
5:35 pm

DDR

Just remembered it “barratry…”

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:35 pm

Orly Taitz.

Seriously – they’re just called litigants or plaintiffs.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
5:36 pm

DDR

That woman is the walking, talking definition of batsh*t crazy!

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:39 pm

josef – Barratry is most commonly applied to an attorney who attempts to bring about a lawsuit that will be profitable to her or him.

meaning their whole entire business model is based upon filing lawsuits. Hence the term ambulance chaser.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:40 pm

Hmmm just pulled out my Blacks Law Dictionary – I guess your definition and mine can be used interchangeably.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
5:40 pm

josef, just saw an article I thought you might enjoy, apropos of one of our recent discussions on sundry topics.

http://www.salon.com/2012/01/22/the_invention_of_the_heterosexual/

Does a good job of explaining why skepticism is in order regarding science proving a genetic or physiological basis for homosexuality.

Over the last decade, there’s been a lot of science arguing that there are physical differences between gay people and straight people, in their brains and even the direction of their hair whirls. You’re skeptical of this research. Why?

I question their validity primarily because nobody has established or in fact attempted to establish that there is a canonical straight body. And if you don’t have characterized control, you can bet your bottom dollar I am not going to believe your hypothesis. It’s really that simple.

All of this research that is purporting to look for physiological material differences between gay bodies and straight bodies: What are they comparing it to? Their assumption that they know magically what a heterosexual body is? When no one has actually established what that is. That’s bad science.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
5:41 pm

DDR

Thanks for that…I had heard it used, but was not sure under what conditions it applied…

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:51 pm

This AFC Championship game is a beast!! This is one of the best games ever!

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
5:55 pm

josef it seems that the definition has morphed through time to become interchangeable.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
6:00 pm

occupation

Fascinating! I gave it a quick scan and have saved it…this is one I’ll come back to and give some attention to. Thanks.

Like a lot of gay people, I’m alternately amused and ticked off by what so many have fixed in their minds about what gay people “look like.” I have a friend we’ll call straight who says that the reason so many say that they don’t care what we do “in private” just don’t bring it up in public is because it disturbs them when somebody who looks and acts just like them, i.e. can’t be “identified” turns out to be gay, it challenges their own “look.”

Unmentionable is the archtypical easy going and relaxed “masculine” male and has spent a lifetime dealing with that. He, well at least when we were younger, was always getting hit on by “straight” men because, well, it can’t be homosexual if he ain’t “faggy!”

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
6:13 pm

i HATE New England

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
6:15 pm

josef – people say the same thing about my sister-in-laws (how straight they look)– I guess they think that if you’re a lesbian you have to run around in flannel shirts, boots, and big belt buckles or something….

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
6:17 pm

Ravens had it won but dropped the ball in the end zone.

Awesome game.

“Coulter: SC Voters Rather Have Snotty Remark Toward Obama Than Winning…”drudgey.

They eat their own.

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
6:31 pm

Getalife,

speaking of “eating” :lol:

the battle of the bulges:

Chris Christie: Gingrich ‘Has Been An Embarrassment To The Party’

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
6:39 pm

Midori,

They eat baby cons.

“Get in my belly” Fat B a s t a r d.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
6:41 pm

Hi josef, couldn’t agree more.

“I have a friend we’ll call straight who says that the reason so many say that they don’t care what we do “in private” just don’t bring it up in public is because it disturbs them when somebody who looks and acts just like them, i.e. can’t be “identified” turns out to be gay, it challenges their own “look”. ”

One of the things I think is so important about a progressive politics is to remember that people are willing go a long way towards ‘tolerance’ if it’s defined in a balkanized environment where boundaries are simply re-drawn (gerrymandered if you will) where you easily to give them their space, but in the end that kind of ‘tolerance’ is phony.

In other words maybe the most threatening thing to the bigot is not so much the ‘other’, but the fact that we can never really be sure we know the same the way we think we do or want to think we can.

kayaker 71

January 22nd, 2012
7:03 pm

Welcome, 6:41,

You are mind fu*king this to death in the typical liberal way. The majority of America is not tolerant much of anything that has to do with a “gay lifestyle”. Quite frankly, it is none of their business, I will grant you that. People can live any way they want as long as they are not breaking any laws…. but tolerant? I think not. Prop 8 in the most vibrant gay community in the whole country voted to define marriage being between a man and a woman. The California electorate passed it. They have voted in a “progressive” way for decades yet this issue struck a chord with them, as it has with the the majority of Americans. I have no problem with people of the same sex living together and sharing a life together….. it is simply none of my business what they do. I do have a problem calling it marriage however.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
7:06 pm

An interesting thing about being able “to pass” is often how much you learn about what people really think when they assume they’re among their “own kind.” Sure, you hear a lot of negative things, but in my experience I have been often pleased to find out just how many people will defend the “other” when that other has been maligned. It’s one of the reasons I am such an incurable optimist.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
7:08 pm

kayaker

WHY do you have a problem with calling it a marriage? Would that imply an equality you’re not willing to extend?

Adam

January 22nd, 2012
7:10 pm

Gabby Gifords resigning from Congress this week. :’(

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
7:15 pm

yak 71, I don’t necessarily disagree with anything you say there, aside from your opening statement.

I’m not a liberal. :)

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
7:19 pm

Is a mind f**k the same thing as gettin’ brains?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
7:20 pm

occupation

Then, the same question to you, why not a marriage?

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
7:21 pm

That said, yak, it all hangs on why the insistence on drawing a line at gay marriage.

If it’s for purposes of shoring up traditional marriage — as it almost always is — it will fail.

Better to abolish marriage altogether — and we may be moving in that direction anyway.

On the other hand, I disagree with some liberals to the extent that they think our understanding of traditional marriage can be preserved wholesale for gay marriage without it undergoing decisive changes in the process.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
7:27 pm

kayaker, occupation
So, somehow my relationship with Unmentionable is a threat? How so? If yours is a religious argument, so be it…but outside that paradigm, how can you justify that precept?

independent thinker

January 22nd, 2012
7:30 pm

The GOP has given two great choices:

Willard the flip flopper who will change his position on anything to suit the right wing media and voters and who will do anything to protect his unlimited wealth and who is the epitomy of the worst of capitalism or

The gasbag Newt a/k/a Porky Pig who will deny anything, has more baggage to explain than a fully loaded 747, has no moral character and has nonstop mental flatulence which his followers call brilliance; along with his floozy Callista and her plastic looks and Tiffany’s jewelry.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
7:32 pm

independent

Amen!

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
7:32 pm

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
7:32 pm

If Newt Gingrich is a representative of “straight” marriage, then you guys who advocate NOT allowing gays to marry, are gonna have a problem defending your stance.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
7:33 pm

My skull is limiting my greatness. — Newt

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
7:35 pm

would those stances be “wide” by any chance Debbie? :lol:

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
7:37 pm

dang midori that traditional marriage chart gave me the hives. especially the part about “the female must submit”. Brrrrrr

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
7:38 pm

josef, “So, somehow my relationship with Unmentionable is a threat”

On the contrary, my concern is that it needs to be MORE of a threat.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
7:38 pm

Taxpayer and Midori – You two are sooooo baddddd…..

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
7:39 pm

welcome- do you really think that Barack Obama is a “marxist”?

Obama himself acknowledges that he was drawn to socialists and even Marxists as a college student. He continued to associate with Marxists later in life, even choosing to launch his political career in the living room of a self-described Marxist, William Ayers, in 1995, when Obama was 34.

“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully,” Obama wrote in his memoir, “Dreams From My Father.” “The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.”

After college, Obama states lived on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, venturing to the East Village for what he called “the socialist conferences I sometimes attended at Cooper Union.”

Never read any of his books, but I’ll take his word for it since he wrote it.

Of course patterns of behavior mean nothing to the left…

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
7:40 pm

On the contrary, my concern is that it needs to be MORE of a threat

Why?

josef

January 22nd, 2012
7:41 pm

occupation
Okay…got it, I think… :-)

Mick

January 22nd, 2012
7:43 pm

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
7:44 pm

Of course patterns of behavior mean nothing to the left…

Unlike you, I’m not gonna pretend that I or anyone speaks for the entire “left”, but it’s those silly fear mongering labels that mean nothing to me.

Just sayin’.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
7:47 pm

HOMOPHOBIA: THE FEAR THAT GAY MEN WILL TREAT YOU THE WAY YOU TREAT WOMEN

stands for decibels

January 22nd, 2012
7:48 pm

does anyone think that Newt can beat Romney? If so, can he beat Obama?

Anything’s possible. However, it’s hard for me to believe that Mitt will continue stumbling as he’s done the past couple of weeks (obviously, if he loses FL, he’s in pretty serious doo-doo.)

As for Newt beating Obama in a general? Newt is pretty well known by the public. He’s polled horribly in head-to-head matchups. Absent Obama being caught in bed with a dead boy, it’s hard to imagine Newt beating him.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
7:52 pm

DDR

Find something intelligent to say

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
7:52 pm

“Steven Tyler, lead singer of the Boston-based, Hall-of-Fame rock and roll band Aerosmith and an “American Idol” judge, was brought in to sing the national anthem before kickoff of the New England Patriots AFC championship game at home. Well, sing is an overstatement. It was more of a warbled scream.”

Has anyone thought of treating our National Anthem with just a little more respect and inviting the U.S. Marine Corps Drum & Bugle Corps instead of these knuckleheads ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs-c5GDccJw (one minute mark)

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
7:57 pm

midori- all I can say is Neal Boortz has some loyal and faithful suckers

Never listened to or read anything by him if that was a reference to me.

“A dramatic change in the face of the Democratic Party: The New York Times “Opinion Pages” reports that for the first time in next year’s election the party will “explicitly abandon the white working class.”

According to plans by party operatives, Democrats hope to cobble together a center-left coalition made up of highly educated voters such as lawyers, professors and teachers – along with African-American and Hispanic lower-income voters, according to the Times.”

Any guess what they mean by lower income voters?

Vote obama. Free money for everyone!

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
7:59 pm

JamVet–Can’t believe you were back on board the blog at 9:58 AM.. PB and I didn’t end the party till way past 4 AM.

In case any of you here were wondering, JamVet is a veritable chick magnet. It took PB and I a little while to get him going last night, but the girls were literally throwing themselves on him before the night was out, no crap. ;-)

josef

January 22nd, 2012
8:00 pm

Jm

DDR is one of the more intelligent posters hereabouts, imo. And I’ll say that even when she and I are squared off in a tangle over differing opinions.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
8:01 pm

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
8:01 pm

Josef 8 I beg to differ

She’s full of nonsense

josef

January 22nd, 2012
8:02 pm

jkl

Boortz is about the biggest jackass around here in Atlanta…crude, rude, lewd and socially unacceptable as the old queens would say…

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
8:02 pm

Now, I don’t know if some of these figure are exact (may be more by now) but if they are ever close …………….. :

“Occupy Party vs Tea Party Comparison

The Democrats and the liberal media have said that the Occupy Party was a civic group “just like” the Tea Party.

I report……you decide…….

OCCUPY PARTY/TEA PARTY

ARRESTS 4149+ /0
RAPES 12 /0
DAMAGE $10,000,000.00 / $0
PUBLIC DEFECATION YES / NO
ANTISEMITIC RANTS 12 / 0
COST TO TAXPAYERS ( by 11/9) $19,327,487.00+ / $0
PUBLIC MASTURBATION 3 / 0
MOLOTOV COCKTAILS THROWN 10 / 0
FIGHTS STARTED YES / NO
CHILDREN EXPLOITED YES / NO
POLICE CARS DAMAGED 2 / 0
PUBLIC DRUNKENNESS YES / NO
DRUG POSSESSION ARREST YES / NO
CONCEALED WEAPON ARREST YES / NO
DRUG OVERDOSE YES / NO
THEFTS YES / NO
BURGLARIES YES / NO
VANDALISM ARREST YES / NO
TRESPASSING ARREST YES / NO
NON FATAL SHOOTINGS 1 / 0
PUBLIC URINATION YES / NO
URINATION ON OTHERS YES / NO
ISRAELI FLAGS BURNED 2 / 0
AMERICAN FLAGS BURNED 1 / 0
AMERICAN FLAGS DANCED ON 1 / 0
AMERICAN FLAG DESECRATION 25 / 0
FELONY ASSAULT ON AN EMT 1 / 0
HEAD/BODY LICE OUTBREAKS 1 / 0
TUBERCULOSIS OUTBREAKS 1 / 0
MURDER 1 / 0
SUICIDES 1 / 0
SHOTS FIRED AT WHITE HOUSE 1 / 0
SCABIES OUTBREAKS 1 / 0

OBAMA ENDORSED IT YES / NO
PELOSI ENDORSED IT YES / NO
CAIR ENDORSED IT YES / NO
SOCIALIST PARTY ENDORSED YES / NO
NAZI PARTY ENDORSED YES / NO
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD ENDORSED YES / NO
COMMUNIST PARTY ENDORSED YES / NO
BIDEN ENDORSED YES / NO
HUGO CHAVEZ ENDORSED YES / NO
BLACK PANTHERS ENDORSED YES / NO
HEZBOLLAH ENDORSED YES / NO
MARXIST UNION ENDORSED YES / NO
9/11 TRUTHER ENDORSED YES / NO
BOLSHEVIK ENDORSED YES / NO
IRAN GOVERNMENT ENDORSED YES / NO
AYATOLLAH ENDORSED YES / NO
NORTH KOREA ENDORSED YES / NO
FARRAKHAN ENDORSED YES / NO
NATION OF ISLAM ENDORSED YES / NO “

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
8:03 pm

And just for the record, Bruno called it first here on the JB blog:

Bruno

December 14th, 2011
8:35 pm

President Gingrich.

Kind of rolls off the tongue, no?? ;-)

http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/12/14/the-keystone-pipeline-will-not-create-20000-new-jobs/?cp=14#comment-807904

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
8:04 pm

DDR, josef, well, let me put it this way. When its biggest defenders are folks like Andrew Cuomo, we need to ask ourselves what’s going on here.

But I am nonetheless a support of it.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
8:05 pm

When I was scrolling up and saw : BLACK PANTHERS ENDORSED YES / NO HEZBOLLAH ENDORSED YES / NO MARXIST UNION ENDORSED YES / NO 9/11 TRUTHER ENDORSED YES / NO BOLSHEVIK ENDORSED YES / NO IRAN G …”

I just knew. Had to be scout.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
8:09 pm

JKL2: ““A dramatic change in the face of the Democratic Party: The New York Times “Opinion Pages” reports that for the first time in next year’s election the party will “explicitly abandon the white working class.”

According to plans by party operatives, Democrats hope to cobble together a center-left coalition made up of highly educated voters such as lawyers, professors and teachers – along with African-American and Hispanic lower-income voters, according to the Times.”

I saw that earlier but did not save the link, now it’s not showing. Do you have that link, JKL?

If this is true and if it succeeds, it will have huge implications.

It has Douglas Schoen’s and Evan Bayh’s and Andrew Cuomo’s and other sham leftists’ hands all over it.

Midori

January 22nd, 2012
8:09 pm

anddddddddddddddddd

JKL shows up right on time to strengthen my point…..

josef

January 22nd, 2012
8:10 pm

Jm

Oh, I disagree strongly. DDR is highly and widely read, a lady of culture and breeding when allowed to be, well spoken (written) and that lil gal (DDR you know what I’m talking about!) knows more about music than just about anybody around…and like I said, I’ve tangled with her and come out on the losing end, and, no, she didn’t gloat…

St Simons - we're on Island time

January 22nd, 2012
8:10 pm

you can pick up a radio station or two here from north of Savannah-
sometimes truth is funnier than fiction – the local reporter:
“In a state that is 66% white, 28% black and 6% other, the voters in the
Republican primary were 99% white. Sully (have no idea who sully is) has
a picture of the single black voter in the Republican primary, but he may
have just come to fix the heat pump, though.”

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
8:12 pm

The greater the Gingrich margin, the more it will validate his strategy of attacking Mitt Romney on the issue of his Bain-gotten wealth.

Kind of interesting to see Jay’s take on things sometimes, just to see how his mind works. A Study In Libthink, if you will.

If you want to know the real reason Newt surged, Jay, you can trace it back to one (paraphrased) quote: “If you want 99 weeks of unemployment and food stamp, vote for Obama. If you want a job, vote for me.”

It’s that simple. Obama’s message of victimhood, dependency, and class warfare isn’t working anymore.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
8:12 pm

BRUNO

Mark my words, you’ll live to eat yours! :-)

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
8:13 pm

Welcome to the Occupation :

But you dodge the point by taking a swipe at me.

Are those endorsements true or not ?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
8:14 pm

thanks josef! I called JM out earlier today as a reading comprehension illiterate and he’s been pissy with me ever since.

Go figure!

JM – if you don’t like my posts, just scroll by them. This is after all a free society. Duh!

Welcome – Andrew cuomo notwithstanding, if we are truly to live out the meaning of our creed, then everyone should have equal access to every facet enjoyed by every american. to deny a significant portion of americans a basic human right, yet expect for them to pay their taxes, fight in our wars and stand by our side, is downright ridiculous.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
8:14 pm

The single irrefutable good thing that will come from mitts candidacy:

Highlighting the insanity and stupidity of the tax code clearly for people

Carried interest may be done for

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
8:14 pm

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
8:16 pm

Of course there are alternative to the carried interest

Only a wholesale revision of the tax code will fix the stupidity

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
8:16 pm

kamchak- it’s those silly fear mongering labels that mean nothing to me

You mean like “evil rich” “the evil Republicans are going to take away your health care, Social Security, and welfare” etc…

just sayin..

Soothsayer

January 22nd, 2012
8:17 pm

Well, I’m sorry to see Baltimore lost. I really thought they were going to pull it out.

Great San Fran/New York game.

One thing I always enjoy watching the games on Fox is the adverts for their insipid television shows. I always wonder: what kind of brain-dead imbecile actually watches this crap? Someone obviously. I think they must have an (R) beside their name.

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
8:17 pm

Mark my words, you’ll live to eat yours! :-)

Well, if Jay wins, it’s going to cost me a hundred smackers to the charity of his choice. I’m almost certain he’ll force me to send it to the IRS for voluntary debt reduction just for spite.

At least I’m putting my money where my mouth is. That’s more than you can say about most here. Hell, I even paid JamVet off last night in advance just in case Obama gets reelected. Gave him a taste of partying Bruno style.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
8:18 pm

You mean like “evil rich” “the evil Republicans are going to take away your health care, Social Security, and welfare” etc…

Too funny!

I’m not gonna defend words that I have not used.

I may have been born at night, but it wasn’t last night, sport.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
8:18 pm

DDR go re read the whole article

O illiterate one you are

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2012
8:19 pm

Obama’s message of victimhood, dependency, and class warfare isn’t working anymore</I.

Victimhood? From the party that whines abotu talking their party back, the evil liberal media…. But great job of hitting all the dog whistles in one sentence!

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
8:19 pm

Hell, I even paid JamVet off last night in advance just in case Obama gets reelected

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
8:20 pm

getalife:

No …….. occupy movement is trash.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
8:20 pm

Oopps.

Way to go JamVet.

No welching.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
8:23 pm

Scout,

Are you the con that filed that complaint against our President in a Atlanta court with that birther garbage?

Talk about trash.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
8:23 pm

scout – Occupy Party vs Tea Party Comparison

So what you’re saying is the Tea Party is evil and ruining America?

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
8:23 pm

Well, Keep, I guess we’ll find out in due time. I’m betting that you Libs here are bat-shyyte crazy and are grasping at any straw to deflect from your own candidate’s meager record.

You want to make any wagers??

Buckeyein Ga

January 22nd, 2012
8:24 pm

Jay, you can trace it back to one (paraphrased) quote: “If you want 99 weeks of unemployment and food stamp, vote for Obama. If you want a job, vote for me.”

———–naw the surge happened after Newt battled Juan W. and John K. S.C. seem to want a fighter.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
8:25 pm

Mick

I tried to play that video, but my pc keeps locking up. Looking at that still shot, I know that’s something I wouldn’t attempt.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
8:25 pm

getalife:

Not me …….. but like I said yesterday I would like it to go forward NOT for this election but for 2016.

We need a definitive decision from the Supreme Court on the Constitutional meaning of “natural born citizen” so we don’t have these problesm in the future.

Do you have a problem with that ?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
8:25 pm

Jm I’ve already READ the whole article; that’s how I know you have a reading comprehension problem. Hospitlization does not equal Immigration.

Here let me “dumb it down” for you.

Hospital = Sick. Illiterate = You.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
8:26 pm

JKL2:

I don’t know how you got that from those stats unless you read them backwards ………… :o

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
8:27 pm

Scout,

He was born in the United States.

You cons never get over losing.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
8:27 pm

midori – JKL shows up right on time to strengthen my point…..

Obviously missed my 7:57

Stay Clueless and uneducated. It’s your Democratic right.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
8:27 pm

DDR

He’s being kicked out of his own country

He will be here to stay clueless

Jay

January 22nd, 2012
8:27 pm

“f you want to know the real reason Newt surged, Jay, you can trace it back to one (paraphrased) quote: “If you want 99 weeks of unemployment and food stamp, vote for Obama. If you want a job, vote for me.”

It’s that simple. Obama’s message of victimhood, dependency, and class warfare isn’t working anymore.

Nice try, Bruno. But there are a couple of logic problems with that argument.

First, Newt wasn’t running against Obama in the primary. He was running against Mitt. Something gave Newt a considerable advantage over Mitt in South Carolina, and it couldn’t have been the message you just cited.

Because Mitt is making the same argument.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2012
8:29 pm

wager about Obama’s reelection? What do you propose Bruno? Or are you proposing a bet about whether “libs” are going bat-shyte crazy and “deflecting”? :lol:

Thulsa Doom

January 22nd, 2012
8:29 pm

Debbiedoright,

Did you know that zero in cajun is actually spelled zereaux. Twenty-one is still spelled twenty-one though.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
8:30 pm

Scout fails to mention the difference in the average age of the Tea Party participant when compared to the Occupy participant. Those differences could be as simple as one group not having the collective energy to do anything other than wave signs and fuss. Regardless to who believes in what, they are all Americans at the end of the day, and they are simply expressing their right to free speech. If you don’t like that, then maybe you need to re-check your “American” values.

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
8:30 pm

naw the surge happened after Newt battled Juan W.

I’m not saying that hurt, Buckeye, but I think people are keying in and agreeing with his core message about self-sufficiency.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
8:30 pm

We need a definitive decision from the Supreme Court on the Constitutional meaning of “natural born citizen” so we don’t have these problesm in the future. Do you have a problem with that ?

JFK, whose father I think was an immigrant, was president and I can’t find any legal challenges to his presidency. Why now? Why THIS president? And I do have a problem with it.

Thulsa Doom the bookmaker

January 22nd, 2012
8:31 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2012
8:29 pm
wager about Obama’s reelection?

Obama’s odds of winning reelection are about the same as those of a librul stepping outside and being shat upon on by an eagle, a crow, and a woodpecker all in the same day.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
8:34 pm

You cons never get over losing

Yeah like a Alabama Fan…….

Evening Doom – I HATE Alabama Doom. Before I was ambivalent about them, but now I’m joining my husband, (Auburn) in my unconditional HATE of “Bama”. Roll OVER Tide.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
8:34 pm

The only explanation I’ve been able to come up with for what happened in SC, and I’m serious as a heart attack here, is mass hysteria. And the more I listen to the victory chants, the more I believe that. We’ve got folks coming in having turned their backs on the very principles they have so long so vociferously defended. It’s really quite scary…

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
8:34 pm

JM can see into the future!! Quick JM what’s the winning Lotto Numbers next week? :roll:

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
8:35 pm

You want to make any wagers??

The professionals are wagering here.

They only give Gingrich a 10% chance of winning.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
8:35 pm

Bruno- Obama’s message of victimhood, dependency, and class warfare isn’t working anymore.

Keep disagrees with you. That means it;s obviously still working (especially with union members, lower income families and minorities).

Vote obama. Free money for everyone!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2012
8:36 pm

DDR, its a simple game…. one of these Presidents is not like the other ones. Can you guess which it is?

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
8:36 pm

Mitt will have to clean up the tax code

He will not be popular with his former PE buddies

Thulsa Doom- political prisoner advocate

January 22nd, 2012
8:38 pm

josef

January 22nd, 2012
8:39 pm

The Romany Lady says she’s making no predictions at all…

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
8:39 pm

Nice try, Bruno. But there are a couple of logic problems with that argument.

First, Newt wasn’t running against Obama in the primary. He was running against Mitt. Something gave Newt a considerable advantage over Mitt in South Carolina, and it couldn’t have been the message you just cited.

Because Mitt is making the same argument.

Perhaps if you read a transcript of the debate, you would see many similarities between Newt’s and Mitt’s pitch. And, if you ONLY had a written transcript, then your “logical” complaints would be valid.

But, if you recall, the message we receive when we see and hear someone speak is estimated to be 95% emotional and only 5% factual in terms of impact. Mitt is giving the appearance of a man on the run, with both his offense and defense breaking down simultaneously. Meanwhile, Newt openly challenges to a debate in which Obama can keep his teleprompter, Newt will just rely on his intellect. In the end, only one candidate can carry the message to the voters. I, along with 40% of SC, believe that man should be Newt.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
8:40 pm

Scout-

Did you see my “occupy” shirt?

http://www.rangerup.com/occupy.html

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
8:40 pm

I’m not saying that hurt, Buckeye, but I think people are keying in and agreeing with his core message about self-sufficiency.

what really ticked me off about that whole exchange is the millions of black people that newtered dissed. he acts like 99% of black people:

a) don’t want to work.
b) are on welfare.
c) are lazy.

i hope one day his fat azz is laying up in the emergency room and his black doctor suddenly gets a case of “lazy” and forgets how to work.

Thulsa Doom- political prisoner advocate

January 22nd, 2012
8:41 pm

“Vote obama. Free money for everyone!”

I t’aint buying it. To my knowledge Obama still hasn’t filled up Peggy Joseph’s gas tank or paid her mortgage!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36×8rTb3jI

Thulsa Doom

January 22nd, 2012
8:44 pm

“what really ticked me off about that whole exchange is the millions of black people that newtered dissed”

I dunno Debbie. He managed to diss a lot of white people too seeing as how there are more whites on welfare than blacks- 38% to 37% with Hispanics 20% of the welfare roles.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
8:45 pm

Brosephus- they are all Americans at the end of the day, and they are simply expressing their right to free speech

Except for the part about breaking the law and being a drain on the tax payers. I thought you were against criminals, or is that job security?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
8:45 pm

Keep disagrees with you. That means it;s obviously still working (especially with union members, lower income families and minorities).

I guess Forrest’s Mom was right — Stupid is as stupid does.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
8:46 pm

Doom – Booooo!! Booo!!! :(

Roll OVER Tide.

Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm

josef,

We Roma already spelled out the odds of Obama winning again via the birdsheet odds that I already posted.

carlosgvv

January 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm

JKL2 – 8:23

The Tea Party is not evil. However, they are composed of narrow minded extremists who, if given the chance, won’t hesitate to ruin the country as long as their dogma is the dominant political thinking.

bman

January 22nd, 2012
8:47 pm

I watched part of the debate. I don’t remember Newt saying anything negative about black people? What did he say?

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
8:49 pm

wager about Obama’s reelection? What do you propose Bruno?

Your call–a charitable donation would be my choice. Win-win that way.

Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
8:50 pm

Debbiedoright,

You knew I had mess withcha just a little bit. Well ok. Maybe more than just a little bit. But if it makes you feel better there’s a huge downside to being a Bama fan. After the 09 national title I bought a nice mug and a couple t-shirts commemorating all 13 national titles. Now that we’ve won yet another they’re all obsolete. Now I gotta get crap with 14 national titles. And when we roll to an inevitable 15th national title again then I’ll have a whole bunch of outdated 14 national titles gear. Damn it sucks being a crimson tide fan.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
8:50 pm

Debbie- Why now? Why THIS president?

Why did it take him three years to produce? Why are his college records sealed?

Love the transparency.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
8:52 pm

Sock-puppets.

:roll:

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
8:52 pm

JKL2, that link for the NY Times op-ed you cited?

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm

The gop voted for all the “welfare” so your argument ends there.

The trash about the birth certificate is a failed attempt to delegitimatize our President and his accomplishments.

It failed.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
8:53 pm

bman

Newt and negatives about black people? Read that White Man’s Burden thesis of his! That is if you can wade through the contorted syntax, semi-literate grammar, and thesaurus inspired vocabulary…he didn’t have to say anything in the debate…he had already won over the good Christian heretics of SC…

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
8:54 pm

Bruno- Obama’s message of victimhood, dependency, and class warfare isn’t working anymore.

Keep disagrees with you. That means it;s obviously still working (especially with union members, lower income families and minorities).

Vote obama. Free money for everyone!

I love how people paint with such a broad brush. I fit two of the three groups easily, and I’ve never asked for a handout from anybody. I wish people would let that BS go, but obviously that’s all some people have to hold on to.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
8:56 pm

Romany Prince

Well, except for the eagle, that happens about every time I step outside… :-)

Buckeyein Ga

January 22nd, 2012
8:57 pm

what really ticked me off about that whole exchange is the millions of black people that newtered dissed. he acts like 99% of black people:

a) don’t want to work.
b) are on welfare.
c) are lazy.

i hope one day his fat azz is laying up in the emergency room and his black doctor suddenly gets a case of “lazy” and forgets how to work.

An issue I have for these statements is that he said he has idea why this would be offensive to some people. He knows but he just wanted to throw red meat out there..and it worked.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm

I have no problem with a charitable donation by the loser. Since Newt is a dog, I suggest a local 501(c)(3) that provides for dogs. :D Since your so very confident Newt is the “big dog”, you are offering a point spread on the electoral college right? Newt can be Obama by say…. 40 electoral votes? I mean, big talk, big spread right?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
8:58 pm

Thulsa- I t’aint buying it. To my knowledge Obama still hasn’t filled up Peggy Joseph’s gas tank or paid her mortgage!

Doesn’t matter. I can tell you who she’s going to vote for(based on the same assumption).

Still waiting for obama to pay Aunt Zeituni’s rent but that isn’t happening either. It’s a shame she doesn’t have a rich relative that could help her out. At least his buddies pulled the string to keep her from being deported so she could stay here on welfare.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
8:59 pm

Except for the part about breaking the law and being a drain on the tax payers. I thought you were against criminals, or is that job security?

Are they not Americans still expressing their right to free speech? I don’t recall free speech being limited only to things that were considered “legal”. People have the right to break the law, if they so choose. They simply have to deal with the reprecussions of doing so. Funny that someone who’s cheerleading for the party of freedom is debating curtailing the freedoms of fellow Americans. You do realize that once you actively advocate stomping on the rights of fellow Americans that you could be considered a domestic enemy of the Constitution, right? Did you not take an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic? Didn’t your fellow military colleagues take the same oath?

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
9:01 pm

what really ticked me off about that whole exchange is the millions of black people that newtered dissed. he acts like 99% of black people:

You know, Deb, in the context of your Blame Game world, your comments make sense. Fortunately, the majority of people have moved past that stage and are now looking for solutions instead. It’s in no one’s benefit for black Americans to be unemployed disproportionately to any one else. Newt is drawing attention to the problem and is offering at least the beginnings of a solution to get young black kids working. His only mistake was to focus on only one group, IMO. Help every poor kid get a job if possible. For me, it was my only lifeline as a kid, my job.

What’s your man Obama doing, that is when he isn’t golfing…..????

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:03 pm

dunno Debbie. He managed to diss a lot of white people too seeing as how there are more whites on welfare than blacks- 38% to 37% with Hispanics 20% of the welfare roles.

he made the statement about how he’d go to the NAACP and say that garbage!! Since the NAACP is predominantly BLACK……….I’ll let you connect the dots from there.

bman: watched part of the debate. I don’t remember Newt saying anything negative about black people? What did he say?

Oh please. :roll:

josef: Newt and negatives about black people? Read that White Man’s Burden thesis of his! That is if you can wade through the contorted syntax, semi-literate grammar, and thesaurus inspired vocabulary…he didn’t have to say anything in the debate…he had already won over the good Christian heretics of SC…

Word. He’s pandering to the lowest common denominator of the populace. Yet, with a straight face, can say that Obama is the divider.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm

Debbie- I guess Forrest’s Mom was right — Stupid is as stupid does

What does every major city slum have in common? Decades of Democrat rule. If people will reelect idiots like Ray Nagin and Marion Berry, anything is possible.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
9:04 pm

The Republican party elite will step up and select Mitt in Florida. Newt will not win the votes in Florida by attempting to use that same strategy that worked for him in South Carolina. It’ll be fun watching him try it though. The wise move for Newt would be to save that South Carolina strategy for use in Alabama and Mississippi. Georgia is the true wildcard in the south. Just my opinion though.

Recon 0311 2533

January 22nd, 2012
9:05 pm

My worthless prediction, which is just as worthless as the prediction from anyone else at this point. Romney wins the Republican nomination and goes on to defeat Obama in a very close election. The Republicans remain in control of the House and gain control of the Senate. January 22, 2012 at 2105 hours.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:06 pm

carlosgvv- they are composed of narrow minded extremists who, if given the chance, won’t hesitate to ruin the country as long as their dogma is the dominant political thinking.

The DNC says,”What?”

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
9:06 pm

If people will reelect idiots like Ray Nagin and Marion Berry…

There’s your sign.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:07 pm

doom as the prince: I HATE Bama

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:09 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
9:09 pm

JKL2 is apparently ignoring me.

Very interesting.

Rube city.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
9:09 pm

Those danged OWS folks cost police departments across the country a small fortune in pepper spray. Of course, that turned out to be good for small business. They showed up with those clear protective goggles at the rallies and made a small fortune. Gee. I hope they remembered to collect sales tax and submit that to the state to help offset some of their costs.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
9:10 pm

Oops! Sorry. :)

Thanks, JKL2.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

January 22nd, 2012
9:11 pm

I see the whistles have the dogs howling tonight…… likely some are going to get run over.

Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
9:11 pm

“Still waiting for obama to pay Aunt Zeituni’s rent but that isn’t happening either”

As a man who likes his suds once in awhile I’m waiting to see if he helps uncle Obama out with his DUI case- get him some rehab or something. Hell his own dad was worthless drunk so you would think he would be sensitive to helping his uncle also avert a drunken driving death. That guy is like Otis from Mayberry. Be nice if Obama would pay for him to enter rehab.

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
9:11 pm

I love how people paint with such a broad brush. I fit two of the three groups easily, and I’ve never asked for a handout from anybody. I wish people would let that BS go, but obviously that’s all some people have to hold on to.

Brosephus–Single mother with 5 mouths to feed in my place. No dad in sight for stretches, then gone for good when I was 13. It ain’t just a Black Thing in that regard. We qualified for food stamps, etc. but were too proud to take them and worked instead. And with that kind of work ethic going for us, all 5 of us are doing very well financially today. That’s why I favor that model—it works.

Actually, I’m the poorest one. :-(

:-)

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:12 pm

I’m gonna call it a night. Anytime the dialogue here devolves into the race crap, I end up reading things that makes me lose faith in the very people I go to work everyday to protect. I’d rather not have that opinion of people while I’m at work, so I’ll let y’all continue with dissecting problems that most of y’all have no personal perception of and simply go off of what y’all “think”.

Later…

Buckeyein Ga

January 22nd, 2012
9:12 pm

What does every major city slum have in common? Decades of Democrat rule. If people will reelect idiots like Ray Nagin and Marion Berry, anything is possible.

Very true just like when someone who claimed to be for family values but was caught having affairs with prostitutes,and still got reelected such as David Vitter, or when someone who was thrown out of Congress by his own party for being a failure and now people think he will be a good president, such as Newt Gingrich

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
9:12 pm

I had actually dug that up, JKL2, but thanks for the link.

I suppose from your standpoint it makes sense. This shift from the working class away from social democrats to the Republican party, and to far right parties in Europe, is a universal trend now.

It’s yet another pattern that seems reminiscent of the 1930s and I don’t think it bodes well for political stability.

Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
9:12 pm

“likely some are going to get run over.”

Yep! Word is that Obama’s drunk uncle is back behind the wheel again tonight.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:13 pm

Bruno: It’s in no one’s benefit for black Americans to be unemployed disproportionately to any one else. Newt is drawing attention to the problem and is offering at least the beginnings of a solution to get young black kids working. His only mistake was to focus on only one group, IMO. Help every poor kid get a job if possible. For me, it was my only lifeline as a kid, my job.

If you believe that. I mean if you truly, truly believe that……I have a bridge in the desert that I want to sell you. Cheap.

What’s your man Obama doing, that is when he isn’t golfing…..????

Saving the free world.

josef

January 22nd, 2012
9:15 pm

TAXI

You might want to rethink that Mississippi one…lots of wild card surprises coming from there of late…

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:15 pm

It ain’t just a Black Thing in that regard.

Bruno

You know that, and I know that. However, why is it always painted as a Black thing when it comes from mouthpieces on the Right? Why is it that many of those same mouthpieces attempt to paint their opposition as the “Party of Free Sh*t” when both parties have instituted so-called entitlement programs? For you or anybody else who knows the truth and still continue to support a party that expouses that sh*t, you’re just as guilty as if you said it yourself IMHO.

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
9:16 pm

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:07 pm
doom as the prince: I HATE Bama

That’s the first thing they always say before they begin the conversion to being a fan of God’s team.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
9:17 pm

It is very obvious jk is a racist and does not even bother to hide his racism.

Which begs to question, why do you cons get upset when other Americans call you out on your racism when it is very obvious you are racists?

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
9:18 pm

Word. He’s pandering to the lowest common denominator of the populace. Yet, with a straight face, can say that Obama is the divider.

Move past your “shoot the messenger” theme for a minute, and tell me what you think is the right course of action then?? Did you find Newt’s suggestion to help poor kids get a job offensive in some way?? What if Obama had come up with the same exact idea?? What would you say about it then, the idea all by itself, stripped of its authorship???

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
9:19 pm

getalife:

I “said” resolve the “natural born citizen” thing (which means much more than just where you were born) AFTER this election.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
9:20 pm

I found the following comparison between the Tea Party and OWS:

Higher education:
92% of OWS have been to college vs 70% of Tea Party Supporters
Employment:
90% of OWS employed vs 56% of Tea Party employed (1/3 are retired)
Age:
64% of OWS are under 34 vs 10% of Tea Party are under 34
Political Affiliation:
OWS: 70% independent, 27% Democrat, 2% Republican
Tea Party: 36% independent, 5% Democrat, 54% Republican
Largest Protest Size:
1.4 million+ 950 cities in 82 countries. The largest one day OWS protest in America was 100,000.
311,460 in 346 cities was biggest protest for the Tea Party. Largest one day Tea Party protest was 30,000 on February 27.
Public Opinion:
54% Agree with OWS and 23% Against OWS
20% Agree with the Tea Party and 40% Against the Tea Party

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
9:21 pm

TaxPayer:

Nice stats (if true) but they have nothing to do with being criminals or trash.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:21 pm

Brosephus- Are they not Americans still expressing their right to free speech?

Is it still “free” speech if they are getting paid?

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/video-exposing-occupy-wall-street-was-organized-from-day-one-by-seiu-acorn-front-the-working-family-party-and-how-they-all-tie-to-the-obama-administration-dnc-democratic-socialists-of-america/

Did you not take an oath to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, both foreign and domestic?

Yes, and OWS woudl fall under the domestic part so I guess I should start shooting. The Tea Party is able to put out their message without breaking the law. Why can’t OWS? But yet the media(and many on this board) displays the Tea Party as “evil/racist/homophobes” and the law breaking OWS as “patriotic”. Why is that?

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
9:21 pm

Again, thanks JKL2 for posting the piece about Dems giving up on the working class.

This is the kind of thing I think would make a great post by Jay.

I would go so far as to say that if this is true, and I don’t entirely doubt it, then you can say that the election of Barack Obama was the beginning of the final unraveling of the Democratic party in its traditional form.

Buckeyein Ga

January 22nd, 2012
9:22 pm

We qualified for food stamps, etc. but were too proud to take them and worked instead. And with that kind of work ethic going for us, all 5 of us are doing very well financially today. That’s why I favor that model—it works.

and just think..Newt G. said you and your siblings didn’t have any good work habits, because you were “poor”

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
9:23 pm

willard’s Dad was born in Mexico so file a complaint with that Atlanta judge Scout.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:25 pm

Jay has a busy week ahead

Newt, Jo pa, FL….. Busy busy

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:25 pm

kamchak- If people will reelect idiots like Ray Nagin and Marion Berry…There’s your sign.

So am I understanding you like your politicians to get caught smoking crack with prostitutes?

Bill Clinton is definently smiling in your direction.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:26 pm

I miss the USSR

It was a nice reminder about what America wasn’t and why

Without them, the liberals have forgotten, and the cons fell asleep for 8 years

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:28 pm

Btw I’m 3/4 kidding

But 1/4 serious

Ok 7/8 kidding…. And only 1/8 serious

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:28 pm

Is it still “free” speech if they are getting paid?

Yeah. “Free speech” has nothing to do with whether one is getting paid or not. The word “free” does not mean that there is no cost and/or money involved. “Free” simply means that one can speak without fear of being snatched up and tortured for speaking out against the government or politicians in the manner that other countries do when people speak out on things. Do you apply that same standard of “free” speech to the Tea Party, even though they were allegedly funded by the Koch’s and other deep-pocketed GOPer’s?

But yet the media(and many on this board) displays the Tea Party as “evil/racist/homophobes” and the law breaking OWS as “patriotic”. Why is that?

What media? Most of that stuff is blog talk, and it’s both left AND right leaning people who say that sh*t. Go back over any thread here and you’ll find just as many righties using those terms as you will find lefties doing so. That’s just as big a fallacy as the whole “liberal media” stuff.

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
9:29 pm

For you or anybody else who knows the truth and still continue to support a party that expouses that sh*t, you’re just as guilty as if you said it yourself IMHO.

Bro–I’m sure that element is there, and may always be there, but the core message remains true: The fastest path to success is to work hard and to study hard. The frustrating part is that there seems to be no simple way to “reach out” from the Right without inflaming racial sensitivities. Should it be a topic best left alone altogether, then??

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:29 pm

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:31 pm

Bro, you’re still around!

Don’t let the racist d-bags get to you

They just make themselves look like idiots

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:31 pm

SoCoBro: You know that, and I know that. However, why is it always painted as a Black thing when it comes from mouthpieces on the Right? Why is it that many of those same mouthpieces attempt to paint their opposition as the “Party of Free Sh*t” when both parties have instituted so-called entitlement programs? For you or anybody else who knows the truth and still continue to support a party that expouses that sh*t, you’re just as guilty as if you said it yourself IMHO.

Word.

Bruno: Move past your “shoot the messenger” theme for a minute, and tell me what you think is the right course of action then?? Did you find Newt’s suggestion to help poor kids get a job offensive in some way??

yes. Child labor is offensive to most people in the western world. only 3rd world countries advocate making little susie work in a factory.

What if Obama had come up with the same exact idea?? What would you say about it then, the idea all by itself, stripped of its authorship???

I don’t care who said it — it’s STOOOOPID!! Instead of making some elementary school kid work, why not take away some of those farm subsidies or some of those gas subsidies or some of those corporate subsidies and put that elementary kids parents to work. instead of making billion dollar companies richer.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:34 pm

Bro

” “Free” simply means that one can speak without fear of being snatched up and tortured for speaking out against the government or politicians in the manner that other countries do when people speak out on things”

Apparently you didn’t read the NPR report about how the CIA now monitors, tracks, and acts on info from and about people on social media sites….

They say they can’t monitor us citizens but acknowledge the computers can’t distinguish locale so everyone is in the dragnet

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:35 pm

The frustrating part is that there seems to be no simple way to “reach out” from the Right without inflaming racial sensitivities.

Wrong. It starts simply by talking WITH people instead of talking AT them. If you don’t understand a person’s situation, you can’t tell them how to better themselves. I can’t give accurate advice to somebody who’s gone bankrupt and lost their gated-community home because I’ve never experienced that.

The hard work and study hard stuff only gets you so far. Humans will always show favor towards like groups. It’s evident in job hiring, friendship circles, and most anything else in life. What do you tell an urban kid that busts his ass off in school only to not even get a partial scholarship to a good college when the drug using kid of the Dean’s best friend gets into school with so-so effort? That stuff still happens on both sides of the racial divide. Until we are willing to own up to our own prejudices and work towards minimizing how they affect our interactions with others, that dog will still be chasing it’s tail when our great-great-great grandkids have kids.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:36 pm

Bruno 9:29

Bill Cosby would say: no

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
9:37 pm

Instead of making some elementary school kid work,

I don’t recall any mention of force–the proposal I heard wasn’t a mandate or requirement, it was presented as an opportunity to work. Again, I began working at an early age, and thought it was great. Why would you deny me that opportunity??

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:37 pm

getalife- It is very obvious jk is a racist and does not even bother to hide his racism

So far from the truth you have no idea. I judge people by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin. Never even came close to being called a racist until I moved down here two years ago (I’m 46). All I know is that since I white I’m called a racist here. I’m guess that no matter how many black (too old and intelligent to call themselves AA’s) friends I have, you won’t believe me.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
9:39 pm

I think the racists like jk need to go to kyle’s blog.

We don’t suffer racists here jk.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:39 pm

jm

The CIA could move into my livingroom, and I wouldn’t give a rat’s ass. Nothing I post here isn’t something I wouldn’t say anywhere else. Free speech doesn’t cover any and ALL speech. If you’re threatening harm, you’re setting yourself up for a visit from the suits. The Patriot Act slashed into the right to free speech in the sense that more things are monitored now without the same mechanisms in place that prevented abuses of that monitoring. That said, we still have more freedom to say things that many people around the world wish they had.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:39 pm

“The hard work and study hard stuff only gets you so far”

Got O, Clinton to the presidency among other things, and mitt a lot of wealth and a decent shot at president

So I respectfully disagree

Condi rice would disagree too

The facts suggest otherwise bro

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
9:39 pm

Scout, by ‘taking a swipe’ were you talking about my taking issue with your ‘marxist’ charge?

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
9:40 pm

So am I understanding you like your politicians to get caught smoking crack with prostitutes?

I think you don’t have an understanding of most things, sport.

Just sayin’.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
9:40 pm

The newt’s ideas prove he is not very smart.

We need adult jobs stupid.

Get a grip bruno.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm

Until we are willing to own up to our own prejudices and work towards minimizing how they affect our interactions with others, that dog will still be chasing it’s tail when our great-great-great grandkids have kids

If you’ve ever seen the movie “Crash” you’ll see a great depiction of how race relations are here in america.

We all distrust each other, yet we’re all linked and have to learn how to live with each other towards our common good. If not, we can just start learning how to speak Chineese.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm

The facts suggest otherwise bro

Wrong. How many of those that you named ended up making connections with the right people to help them get to where they are now? In this society, if you don’t know and/or befriend the right people, your path to success is that much harder to achieve. I’m not saying that it’s impossible, but in our society, connections matter big time. To suggest otherwise is simply refusing to acknowledge the obvious.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm

Bro

Scotus would disagree with our definition

Short of treason, you should be able to say what you want

And the government should have to prove just cause prior to monitoring you

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:44 pm

Welcome- then you can say that the election of Barack Obama was the beginning of the final unraveling of the Democratic party in its traditional form

obama wasn’t lying when he said he wanted to transform America. People assumed he meant for the better. They just missed the part about collapsing the system first and how that would actually be very painful to most people.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:44 pm

DDR

I’ll have to see if that one’s in my case. I’ve got dvd’s all over the place.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:45 pm

Bro

They made those connections because they worked hard in school

Btw crash sucked. 21 grams was a lot better

bman

January 22nd, 2012
9:46 pm

Bro .. .. connections & who you know is just about the only way. That is, if a person really wants to score big. I agree.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:47 pm

Short of treason, you should be able to say what you want

I’d disagree with that a bit simply because yelling “fire” in a crowded theater isn’t treason, yet that act has been determined to not be protected by free speech. Other than that, I understand what you’re saying. I think there still has to be cause for monitoring specific people/things. I think the PA made it easier to do broad range monitoring. I may be wrong though. I’d have to go back and read up on it again.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm

I know you cons ignore the fact that your hero w lost millions of jobs and making kids janitors does nothing to recover those jobs w lost.

The idea is stupid.

Focus on recovering all the jobs you lost cons.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm

Bro you know what I mean

I’m obviously not defending someone’s supposed right to yell fire n the theater

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:49 pm

I don’t recall any mention of force–the proposal I heard wasn’t a mandate or requirement, it was presented as an opportunity to work.

Then you missed the part where he said “I would”. That sounds like the beginning of a future mandate to me.

Again, I began working at an early age, and thought it was great. Why would you deny me that opportunity??

Whoever hired you was guilty of breaking child labor laws. are you advocating to taking our country back towards the 19th century?

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
9:50 pm

Until we are willing to own up to our own prejudices and work towards minimizing how they affect our interactions with others, that dog will still be chasing it’s tail when our great-great-great grandkids have kids.

To be honest, I don’t know much about how to improve the world beyond my own self and my small immediate sphere of influence, Bro. I think my own record, both personally and professionally has been pretty good in terms of being open to all people. And, I have seen nothing but steady improvement during my lifetime in society at large.

If it’s a hot button topic for you, I’ll leave it alone, but am open to hearing from you later if you think dialogue is a good thing.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:50 pm

Brosephus- “Free” simply means that one can speak without fear of being snatched up and tortured for speaking out against the government or politicians in the manner that other countries do when people speak out on things

Is that why obama has extended the Patriot Act (the thing the left hate) way beyond the most evil things people think Dick Cheney could dream of? He’s just jealous he doesn’t have 100% media control like his hero Hugo Chavez.

Why does he want a Civilian National Security Force for again? http://www.wnd.com/2008/07/69601/

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:51 pm

“Focus on recovering all the jobs you lost cons.”

Can’t do that fully until Obama is gone.

Obama vetoes job creation opportunities.

See exhibit A: XL pipeline

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
9:52 pm

“Child labor is offensive to most people in the western world. only 3rd world countries advocate making little susie work in a factory.”

Debbiedo,

They kind of have to in much of the 3rd world. Public education isn’t free in much of the world. You have to pay for it. So if you can’t afford to educate your kids then they simply go to work in the fields. They have to if they expect to be able to be fed. Incidentally though it wasn’t that long ago that it was a lot like that here in the U.S. even though we’ve always had a fine policy of public education for everyone.

My girlfriend’s mother is 79 with a 3rd grade education. Her sisters and her went to work in the fields as children picking cotton.They had to either help their dad with the harvest or starve. Plain and simple. Life was that much tougher here in the rural south not that long ago. They ended up doing okay. She eventually owned a daycare center but gave it up because it was such a hassle. But she paid off her house, has everything paid for and lives an okay life.And she also was able to raise my girlfriend and provide her an education as well as a decent life.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
9:52 pm

They made those connections because they worked hard in school

Which school.. elementary… high… college? If you don’t get into the Ivy League schools, you don’t have easy access to make Ivy League connections. If you don’t have family who have attended those schools, it’s a bit harder to get into them. If you don’t have the funds to attend Ivy League schools, it’s that much harder.

My bachelors is in Mathematics, and I graduated with honors. That didn’t guarantee me jack sh*t when I got off that stage. I still entered jobs at entry level. I wasn’t given any special treatment because I busted my ass in school. I didn’t get paid a higher wage because I busted my ass in school. If you don’t know the right people, you can spend your entire life busting your ass and you might get to the point where you’re making $50k a year.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:53 pm

I’m all for kids working as early as possible, as long as it doesn’t interfere with education

Especially if they have deadbeat parents that are poor role models

That said, newt is still an idiot and his proposed solution is idiotic

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
9:54 pm

getalife- We don’t suffer racists here jk

don’t forget about the other four fingers pointing back at you.

PS: Kyle does have some good articles. Too much local stuff for me as I don’t live in Atlanta and I’m not a GA resident.

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
9:54 pm

Whoever hired you was guilty of breaking child labor laws. are you advocating to taking our country back towards the 19th century?

You’ll have to take it up with Mrs Sanford, then, a poor black widow who hired me at age 11 for $1 per hour to help in the fields. My next employer was Mrs. Kung, a Chinese immigrant who hired me to wash dishes at age 12 for $1.50 per hour. I then hit the big time at 13 and moved up to working at a motel.

So, maybe a few laws were ignored…..that’s not always the most important thing in Jersey ;-)

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:55 pm

21 Grams was about race relations?! :wtf:

I hope you’re good looking cause you’re as dumb as a rock……

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
9:55 pm

Nice stats (if true) but they have nothing to do with being criminals or trash.

Scout,

Here is a link to some of the info I posted. Could you help me out using some of that expertise you have in spotting “criminals and trash”. Just point them out to me.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
9:56 pm

jm,

Better check on how many jobs our President has recovered from the w collapse.

You want another collapse to lose the rest of the jobs.

Why do you hate the American worker?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:56 pm

bruno i don’t care if they were green with gold polka dots they broke the law. period.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:57 pm

Brosephus

Which school?

All of those. You have to go the whole distance to get there

And when it comes to college, yes you have to get into a good one by having a good gpa and SAT

Student loans will pay for anything

Yes it helps a little to be a legacy

But that is the exception, not the rule

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
9:57 pm

My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle who used to work with a guy that knew someone that had to walk 15 miles to school in the snow 365 a year. Up hill both ways.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
9:59 pm

Bro

Simply it, the people I know who worked harder have gone further than those who didn’t

That’s not a coincidence

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
10:00 pm

kamchak- So am I understanding you like your politicians to get caught smoking crack with prostitutes? I think you don’t have an understanding of most things, sport.

Then here’s your sign back. (You obviously need it and I don’t take re-gifted stuff anyway)

Just sayin’, slick.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:00 pm

DDR

It’s about a ot of things

Pay attention next time

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:01 pm

Such a tedious little man.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
10:02 pm

Is that why obama has extended the Patriot Act

Nope. In simplist terms, Obama extended the PA to keep the intelligence gathering capability of the US at the same level it’s been since 9/11. How do you think the US has been able to intercept chatter that has kept backpacks from being blown up in the NYC subway system? How do you think people found out about liquid explosives being used against us?

Politicians lie about stuff all the time. I’m sure Obama got a rude awakening when he sat down in the Oval Office for the first time (if he hadn’t already been briefed on things before). The same thing will happen with whomever follows Obama. This whole idea of veering left/right is a thing the public has devised to account for the actions of the presidents. They all follow the same general path with some divergent things splattered here and there. When you look at things objectively, there isn’t really much difference between Clinton, Bush, and Obama when it comes to their actions. You can nitpick and find different things, but overall, they have all followed the same trajectory.

As far as your WND stuff, I don’t even get involved in that BS… That sh*t’s for conspiracy theorists and nutcases as something of that nature can not be executive ordered. That would have to pass through Congress first.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:02 pm

Getalife

Helping the American worker and citizen is my ony fundamental concern when it comes to politics

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:03 pm

“What we have here is a failure to communicate” George Washington.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:03 pm

Wanna trade horror stories Doom? OK.

My mother is from Brazil; she grew up in barrios. My grandmother lived in a dirt filled, shack w/o running water and bathrooms. She finally got out of the barrios when my mother married my father and started sending money home to her — it wasn’t much ’cause she was, at first, just a sergeants wife; but in retrospect the little bit that she did send helped to save not only my grandmother but my uncles and aunts lives.

Buckeyein Ga

January 22nd, 2012
10:03 pm

21 Grams was about race relations?! :wtf:

I hope you’re good looking cause you’re as dumb as a rock…

yeh I raised an eyebrow on that post.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
10:05 pm

jm

“Simply it, the people I know who worked harder have gone further than those who didn’t”

You can not take personal experience and extrapolate it to our entire society. Our country is far too diverse for any one person to make such assumptions with any semblance of accuracy.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:05 pm

DDR only understands movies that hit you over the ear with their message. Repeatedly.

Sad for her

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:05 pm

Head, not ear

Whatever

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:07 pm

jm,

The gop have been at war with the American worker and busting unions.

Are you even paying attention to gop actions or just ignore them like the rest of our cons?

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
10:07 pm

getalife- Why do you hate the American worker?

Your confusing him with the DNC again.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
10:08 pm

Bruno

We’ll have to get together sometime and discuss things over a beer or two. Discussion is nowhere near a sore spot for me. I just have little tolerance for ignorance. If I knew the answer to solving the dialogue issue in this country, I’d be out on a country-wide tour right now.

Brosephus

January 22nd, 2012
10:09 pm

I’m really on my way out now… Enjoyed the exchange with er’rbody, but the dialogue ain’t gonna make up for the lack of sleep when that alarm goes off.

Later!!!!

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:09 pm

kammy @ 9:57 — you are soooo baddddd!!!

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:10 pm

My girlfriend’s hairdresser’s husband has an uncle who used to work with a guy that knew someone that had to walk 15 miles to school in the snow 365 a year. Up hill both ways.

With shoes on! That’s too easy.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:10 pm

Bro

You’re arguing my evidence is anecdotal

So be it

When I combine the experience of my friends with what I also see generally occurng, I believe we have a pretty good meritocracy

N fact, there are some that rightly argue we may ave too much of a meritocracy

Open our eyes

Your success,or lack thereof, has more to do with our personal decisions than some outside nefarious force

Same goes for me

I’ve made mistakes and suffered mightily for them

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:12 pm

Jkl2 :)

Getalife, I’m anti union

Unions destroy jobs

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:12 pm

Debbiedoright,

We all got them stories. My point is simple. That life just a few short decades ago was much harsher, much more brutish then it is today. And given how tough things were there and yet people persevered it just strikes me as odd how people today have no idea how great their opportunities are compared to just a couple generations ago.

And of course in the rest of the world conditions like what you speak of are commonplace. I think the world bank stated that roughly 40% of the earth’s population subsists on $2 or less per day. I’ld have to double check that stat but I think its accurate.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
10:14 pm

kamchak- had to walk 15 miles to school

For what it’s worth, my Mom went to a 1-room school house (1-8 grades with her class being the largest at 3). Two kids walked 4 miles one way.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:15 pm

I know jm.

You are with the side that hates the American worker.

There are over 300 million Americans so it is not about you and your friends.

You are the me generation.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
10:16 pm

“Say hello to my little friend!”
–Thomas Jefferson

I’ll have to double check that quote, but I think it’s accurate.

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:17 pm

chihuahua check!
cockaroach check!
sandflea ???
sandflea…

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
10:17 pm

JKL2: “obama wasn’t lying when he said he wanted to transform America. People assumed he meant for the better. They just missed the part about collapsing the system first and how that would actually be very painful to most people.”

Well that was the whole Rorschach mystery which no one seems to have been able to figure out. Obviously we’re coming at this from opposite directions, but while I agree about his cryptic nature as a president, I vigorously disagree about Obama’s desire to change the system. On the contrary, this is a president who is fiercely dedicated to preserving the general path this country has been on in numerous ways — foreign policy, trade policy, domestic security, you name it. His changes from the Bush/Cheney era have been important, but have been more about style and tactics rather than actual strategy.

Basically I agree with Brosephus 10:02, but up to a point.

“This whole idea of veering left/right is a thing the public has devised to account for the actions of the presidents”

However, there is a limit to this, and that is that historical trajectories of nations do not go on infinitely. You’re right that the notion of a giant swerve in direction with new leaders in this system, unlike in a parliamentary system, is a fantasy, a sham, that’s concocted partly by the two parties themselves, aided by the media, bec. they each ultimately benefit from maintaining that fiction over the long run by taking turns at power without any wild swings. But eventually, nations enter crisis and must make choices. At that point, in other words, the truly naive thing to think becomes the very thought that things can go on indefinitely.

We’re fast approaching such a point, if we haven’t already reached it.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:19 pm

Getalife

There are very few unionized employees left

I am on the side of free-willed American workers

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:24 pm

jm,

How many jobs did the gop lose the last time they had the WH?

That is what you want and you can tell yourself whatever makes you feel better about losing millions of jobs.

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
10:25 pm

Kam–This gambling site is offering 8:1 odds on Newt:

http://sports.ladbrokes.com/en-gb/politics/us-presidential-election/2012-us-presidential-race-e212304268

Obama is a favorite at 8/11, but I have to believe that get closer to 1:1 when the Repub nominee is known.

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:26 pm

No OWS vs Teaparty folks stats would be complete without the arrest records. Sometimes ya just gotta help the bugs out with dey stats.

The first answer I give is: the Occupy Wall Street protesters have been around for about 50 days, compared to about 1,000 days for the Tea Party Patriots—and so far 2,500 “Occupy” protesters have been arrested (compared to a handful of Tea Party arrests), there have been 4 rapes at Occupy Wall Street protests (and no rapes at Tea Parties) and the OWS folks have caused about $2.4 million in property damage, whereas the Tea Party Patriots have actually been a source of revenue for the cities in which we protest because we pay permit fees for our protests and we leave the city spaces cleaner than when we arrived.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:28 pm

Getalife

They lost a lot

Mitt Romney isn’t George w though

Obviously this is hard for liberals to understand

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
10:29 pm

Talking of long shots, who would have guessed that the Giants would be going to the Superbowl a few weeks back??

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:30 pm

Getalife

Btw

Democrats played a big role in losing those jobs too

But that is a big can of worms

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:31 pm

On balance, I like the tea party

Occupy, not so much

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
10:32 pm

Welcome- This whole idea of veering left/right is a thing the public has devised to account for the actions of the presidents

To some degree. I personally think most of congress needs to be scrapped(drain the swamp, starting with Pelosi). Politicians have forgotten who they work for. I’d like to see the Fed taken down a notch.

States have given up too much. When did senators become more important than governors? Government works best at the local level. Lets get some term limits installed and go back to taking care of those around us.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
10:32 pm

@DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
9:43 pm
Until we are willing to own up to our own prejudices and work towards minimizing how they affect our interactions with others, that dog will still be chasing it’s tail when our great-great-great grandkids have kids
**************************************************************************************

Not only will we have to repent for the sins of bad people (RACISTS), but we also will have to repent for

the APPALLING SILENCE OF GOOD PEOPLE.

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
10:33 pm

getalife

Didn’t Jm say a month or so ago that he was gonna ignore you?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:33 pm

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:33 pm

No jm,

The buck stops with the President.

Stop making excuses.

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
10:34 pm

getalife- How many jobs did the gop lose the last time they had the WH?

You mean when the Demwits had complete control of Congress?

Say what you want about Newt, he ruled the Clinton years.

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:35 pm

giants win!!!!!

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:36 pm

Kam,

I am just another voice in jm’s head.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:36 pm

Getalife

“The buck stops with the President”

Is that right?

Then you’ll acknowledge that super job loser Obama is a failure then?

Thought so

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:38 pm

The newt added zero jobs.

President Clinton added the jobs not the newt.

He just voted with our President.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:39 pm

jm,

You dwell in la la land and ignore our President’s accomplishments.

Just like the rest of the cons.

You are a con.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:39 pm

bman

January 22nd, 2012
10:40 pm

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:40 pm

Say what you want about Newt, he ruled the Clinton years.

With a walkie talkie, from the back of the plane.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
10:41 pm

@Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:26 pm
the Tea Party Patriots have actually been a source of revenue for the cities in which we protest because we pay permit fees for our protests and we leave the city spaces cleaner than when we arrived.
***********************************************************************************

You also leave the cities with the stench of racism, the foul odor of hypocrisy and the putrid air of hate.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:43 pm

Just another day of owning the cons while watching football.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:43 pm

Mitt is not a tax cheat

Just fyi

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
10:44 pm

getalife- You dwell in la la land and ignore our President’s accomplishments

I thought it was Bush’s fault?

Has obama been sworn in yet?

obama: Proving you don’t need to be a leader to be President. Just enough stupid people to vote for you.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:44 pm

“Get to the back of the plane newt” President Clinton.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:45 pm

Getalife
You own nothing….. Except your inflated sense of self worth

Are you related to newt?

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:46 pm

Jm – hates unions (check)
Jm – likes Tea Partiers (check)
Jm – hates OWS (check)

But Jm says he’s NOT a con……….

Hmmmm……… I wonder if Jm is just deluding himself……

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:46 pm

“Teaba$$ers, are in large part, full of sheet.”

You just gotta love what passes for searing intellectual debate in the minds of the kook left. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

JKL2

January 22nd, 2012
10:47 pm

tax cheat- You also leave the cities with the stench of racism, the foul odor of hypocrisy and the putrid air of hate

OWS says,”What?”

I would say you’re confused about who’s leaving the stench, but I’m too busy laughing at you.

Welcome to the Occupation

January 22nd, 2012
10:50 pm

get: ““Get to the back of the plane newt” President Clinton”

Or it could of gone like: “sure you can sit at the front of the plane, Newt, if you bring your shine box:”

Jm: “Mitt is not a tax cheat”

He doesn’t have to be. He lives in a country that’s a capitalist’s dream.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
10:50 pm

Arf Arf !

“(Reuters) – A U.S. aircraft carrier sailed through the Strait of Hormuz and into the Gulf without incident on Sunday, a day after Iran backed away from an earlier threat to take action if an American carrier returned to the strategic waterway.”

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:51 pm

Tax Cheat: the APPALLING SILENCE OF GOOD PEOPLE

Thats all it takes for evil to prevail.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:52 pm

willard offshores his money and is a tax cheat.

He can’t hide it any longer thanks to the newt.

The newt is a lib.

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:53 pm

“You also leave the cities with the stench of racism, the foul odor of hypocrisy and the putrid air of hate.”

Tax Cheat,

Not sure what planet you live on but in the U.S. most of the major cities are run by Democrats. Hence their subsequent decay, corruption, and rotting at the core. Have you taken a look at Detroit lately which has imploded and ceded whole neighborhoods to a wasteland that no longer gets police or fire protection?

And btw what tax cheat do you speak of? Has Romney cheated on his taxes or been charged or convicted of tax evasion? Please provide your evidence of such cheating. You can do that. Right???

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:54 pm

Repeat of Super Bowl 42!! I was hoping for a Giants vs. Ravens game; but at least I got one of my faves in.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
10:54 pm

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
10:54 pm

“Hmmmm……… I wonder if Jm is just deluding himself……”

Just another lying con.

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:56 pm

Scout,

I just can’t understand why the Iranians would even consider confronting a U.S. carrier. That’s just bizarre and its aking to a gnat biting an elephant on the butt. Or better yet its like the chihuahua or the sand flea biting Doomy on the ankle. BWAHAHAHAHA!

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
10:57 pm

WELL, WELL ……… MORE ON OCCUPIER TRASH ! THEFT AND URINATING ON A CROSS !

Headline: “Holy vessel disappears from church housing Occupy Wall Street protesters”

“There’s no longer room at the inn at a Manhattan church that’s sheltering Occupy Wall Streeters after a holy vessel disappeared from the altar last week.

When the Rev. Bob Brashear prepared for Sunday services at West Park Presbyterian Church on West 86th Street, he noticed parts of the bronze baptismal font were gone.

In a fire-and-brimstone message to occupiers later that day, he thundered, “It was like pissing on the 99 percent.”

In Brooklyn, at another church housing OWS protesters, an occupier urinated on a cross, according to Rabbi Chaim Gruber, who has angrily abandoned the OWS movement.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/22/holy-vessel-disappears-from-church-housing-occupy-wall-street-protesters/?test=latestnews#ixzz1kFZml8A9

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
10:58 pm

the cities may mostly be ran by democrats but the state is (mostly) ran by republicans. hence the decaying infastructure, roads and schools. South Carolina’s shameful decaying schools is not the local mayor’s fault, it’s the state’s Republican leaders fault(s).

Take a city like Atlanta — Atlanta and fulton county provide funds for the entire state. Thank God that Atlant still runs its own airport because if the repugs have their way, they’d take away a big revenue that was paid for with Atlanta/fulton county resident taxes; disperse the fund throughout the mediocre counties, blame the dems for their problems, and then pat themselves on the back for their “governing” techniques.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
10:59 pm

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany :

Easy. They are suicidal ………… you know, the 32 virgins (or whatever number it is) and all.

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
10:59 pm

You know you’ve lost all credibility when your KOOK mind is convinced that some schmo blogging from their basement using wordpress is a source of credibility. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
11:00 pm

PATHETIC IS A GOOD WORD:

“House Speaker Boehner slams President Obama ahead of Tuesday’s State of the Union address, saying it’s ‘pathetic’ if Obama tries to offer the ’same old’ ideas, policies that haven’t helped the economy.”

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
11:01 pm

Scout,

Its 72 virgins. It sticks in my mind because I almost converted myself when I realized it was that many.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
11:02 pm

@Jm

January 22nd, 2012
10:36 pm
Then you’ll acknowledge that super job loser Obama is a failure then?
*************************************************************
Thank you Mr. President for:

The “room-lighting” smile.

The mind that always thinks.

Preventing a second Great Depression.

The humor.

Bringing the number of women in the Supreme Court to 3.

Making the White House the “people’s” house.

1.1 million jobs created in 2010 alone, more than the entire 8 years of George W. Bush.

The love of people.

The love of family.

America ’s First Lady.

Health Care reform

The world having respect for America , again

Quietly and calmly dealing with crisis after crisis, after crisis, after crisis, even if not being responsible for any of them

Being so “cool”:

Being fierce – when need be

Having the intellect to be curious

The capacity to know that you are, as we are, imperfect

Having the sense to not let it destroy you

The capacity to be compassionate

Being an inspiration to so many

Saving the auto industry and at least 1.4 million jobs

Loving the troops

Understanding the horrible price of war

Bringing 100,000 men and women back from Iraq

For facing the most difficult and loneliest job in the world with grace, dignity, honesty
and guts in spite of so many “Haters”

For being, in spite of, all the hate, pettiness, racism, corruption and immaturity around, the most progressive and “for the people” president in decades

And simply this:

For being Mr. President.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:02 pm

“Just another lying con”

Libs have short memories

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:03 pm

Its 72 virgins. It sticks in my mind because I almost converted myself when I realized it was that many

Too funny!!!!

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:05 pm

Oh yeah like tax cuts have worked huh? if that’s the case, then why hasn’t some of these GOP lead states balanced their budgets yet? Is it because they don’t have any TAX revenue?

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:05 pm

Over obama’s term so far, he has lost jobs

Fire him

DebbieDoRight

January 22nd, 2012
11:07 pm

well i’m out. Dudley lost the bet and I (the giants) are in the super bowl. I’ve gotta think of something really, really awful to make his loosing hurt.

nite all.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:07 pm

Yeah, many baggers are in prison for acts of violence and Big Sis is monitoring the cons.

See something say something.

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:09 pm

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
11:10 pm

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?) :

I don’t have time to go on all night (I could) but you left out a lot:

1) Starting your campaign in the home of terrorists

2) Not respecting the unborn

3) For the biggest debt in our history

4) For bad mouthing America not only here but overseas

5) For promoting violence:

** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun!”
** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”
** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”
** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard!”
** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“
** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat!”
** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”
** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish our enemies.”
** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

6) For promoting the likes of “Occupy”

7) For subverting the Constitution

8) For outlandish vacations at taxpayer expense

9) For campaign for 2012 when you should be at work

10) For dividing this country more than it’s been since the Civil War.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:10 pm

When Obama adds 2.5 million MORE jobs he’ll be back to BREAK EVEN

Never mind actually adding jobs

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

Libs lie

The economy dies

And so do people and their jobs

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
11:12 pm

Debbiedo,

I dunno. In the worst school systems in the country such as LA, NY, Chicago, Detroit the states have also been run by Dems for quite awhile. Mich. I think has had a repug for a couple years but for a long time before I think its been dem governors. And also I think education is mostly locally funded and controlled isn’t it? Not sure but I thought it was mostly funded with local property and sales taxes.

As for roads the roads outside of Atlanta tend to be pretty decent once you get outside the city. It seems the surface streets in Atl are terrible but the interstates seem fine to me. But don’t go bragging too much about the Atl airport. The people that pay to use it and keep it in business the most are from the suburbs and from all over and not Atlanta itself. And of course the airport does have one helluva reputation for corruption.

“Take a city like Atlanta — Atlanta and fulton county provide funds for the entire state”

No doubt. A point made plenty of times from Sam Massell of the Buckhead coalition, all those wealthy folks in north fulton cities like Alpharetta and Milton. We’ve heard plenty from them about supporting everyone else.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
11:13 pm

TaxPayer

Sorry ……….. but see my 10:57. Now even a probably very, very liberal church in Manhattan can’t handle their dissent either and they have been:

EVICTED !!!!!

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:13 pm

I think our blog host has highlighted whom the bloggers here are with no credibility. He has certainly called them out enough. BWAHAHAHA!

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
11:13 pm

@Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:02 pm
“Just another lying con”

Libs have short memories
********************************************************************

The only thing short is your…………..well you know what. :)

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:14 pm

Libs are lame

No substance

See above

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:17 pm

Sorry ……….. but see my 10:57. Now even a probably very, very liberal church in Manhattan can’t handle their dissent either and they have been:

EVICTED !!!!!

Scout,

I have no idea what you are talking about. Did you have something specific to say regarding one of my posts, or what. If yes, please identify the particular post and the specific item from said post otherwise I would have to just guess at what you are talking about and I see no value in doing so.

getalife

January 22nd, 2012
11:18 pm

Yeah, the con baggers are outed with racism, no credibility and just horrible Americans.

They come here to be crushed and they like it.

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
11:18 pm

Its 72 virgins. It sticks in my mind because I almost converted myself when I realized it was that many

I don’t know, Doom, at my age, it’s tough to keep up with even one…… ;-)

TaxPayer

January 22nd, 2012
11:19 pm

Oh well. Tomorrow is another day. Have fun.

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
11:20 pm

You would think that tax cheat could come up with one proveable point instead of just some opinions of what she thinks of Obama’s personality or his smile and such. None of her points below are proveable points. Just a bunch of gobbledeegook about her perceptions of the president.Not one factual statement below. Looks like she got that cult of personality thing down pat. I wonder if she prays to Obama?

The “room-lighting” smile.

The mind that always thinks.

Being so “cool”:

Being fierce – when need be

Having the intellect to be curious

The capacity to know that you are, as we are, imperfect

Having the sense to not let it destroy you

The capacity to be compassionate

Loving the troops

Understanding the horrible price of war

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
11:20 pm

@0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
11:10 pm
A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?) :

I don’t have time to go on all night (I could) but you left out a lot:
*********************************************************************************************************

A lie told often enough becomes the truth.

Keep throwing out the bullsh*t and maybe something might stick. SPLASH :)

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
11:20 pm

You would think that tax cheat could come up with one proveable point instead of just some opinions of what she thinks of Obama’s personality or his smile and such. None of her points below are proveable points. Just a bunch of gobbledeegook about her perceptions of the president.Not one factual statement below. Looks like she got that cult of personality thing down pat. I wonder if she prays to Obama?

The “room-lighting” smile.

The mind that always thinks.

Being so “cool”:

Being fierce – when need be

Having the intellect to be curious

The capacity to know that you are, as we are, imperfect

Having the sense to not let it destroy you

The capacity to be compassionate

Loving the troops

Understanding the horrible price of war

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
11:20 pm

You would think that tax cheat could come up with one proveable point instead of just some opinions of what she thinks of Obama’s personality or his smile and such. None of her points below are proveable points. Just a bunch of gobbledeegook about her perceptions of the president.Not one factual statement below. Looks like she got that cult of personality thing down pat. I wonder if she prays to Obama?

The “room-lighting” smile.

The mind that always thinks.

Being so “cool”:

Being fierce – when need be

Having the intellect to be curious

The capacity to know that you are, as we are, imperfect

Having the sense to not let it destroy you

The capacity to be compassionate

Loving the troops

Understanding the horrible price of war

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
11:23 pm

Well looks like Doomy got a little trigger happy on the enter button. Better call it a night. Good night all.

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
11:23 pm

@Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
11:20 pm
. I wonder if she prays to Obama?

********************************************************************

No one is advantaged before God.

K A P O W……..!

Kamchak

January 22nd, 2012
11:24 pm

Speaking of “gobbledeegook” — a triple dose.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
11:25 pm

TaxPayer:

Now you can’t even keep up with your posts/train of thought !

1) Here’s your post:

“Wow! Look at that one lone guy getting a police escort. Such the “criminal and trash”, as Scout would put it.”

2) Here’s my post:

Sorry ……….. but see my 10:57. Now even a probably very, very liberal church in Manhattan can’t handle their dissent either and they have been:

EVICTED !!!!!

3) The point is not just the “Tea Party” but “Liberal Churches” are getting rid of the Occupiers because of the way they trash the place and theft !

4) It’s really quite easy to follow our exchange. Don’t know where you got confused.

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
11:27 pm

Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany :

He doesn’t love the troops and they sure don’t love him.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:28 pm

Wonder what bomb jay has prepared to drop tomorrow am

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
11:28 pm

@Thulsa Doom- Prince of Romany

January 22nd, 2012
11:23 pm
Well looks like Doomy got a little trigger happy on the enter button. Better call it a night. Good night all.

*******************************************************************

Looks like Doomy couldn’t HANG! :)

He can dish it……….. but he can’t take it.

heeheeheeheeheeheeheeheehee

0311/1811

January 22nd, 2012
11:28 pm

Well, I’m out for the evening. Have to get up early and see Jay’s new editorial on something about Georgia transportation.

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:29 pm

Doom

The O worshipper probably spent time in a limo with O

Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:30 pm

Outta here as well…..

A Tax Cheat or A Wife Cheat (Is this the Best Republicans Have To Offer?)

January 22nd, 2012
11:37 pm

@Jm

January 22nd, 2012
11:29 pm
Doom

The O worshipper probably spent time in a limo with O

January 22nd, 2012
11:30 pm
Outta here as well…..
************************************************************

They are scattering like rats on a ship. :)

Bruno

January 22nd, 2012
11:47 pm

Bruno

January 23rd, 2012
12:15 am

In case any of you missed it, Russian scientists believe they have uncovered evidence of life on Venus:

http://news.yahoo.com/russian-scientist-claims-signs-life-spotted-venus-070321311.html

From the article:

“The project is largely dedicated to analyzing what its leaders describe as a “greenhouse effect”-related eco-catastrophe that once converted Venus into an uninhabitable wasteland. New evidence suggests that right-wing Venetians lawmakers ignored strong warnings from the Venus Progressive Party regarding space saucer emissions nearly 3 million years ago, thus dooming the once robust planet. The decline was greatly accelerated by the election of Newtonian Gingrichius, who defeated the first green-skinned Venetian President, Barackus Obamian in a race-fueled election.”

Brosephus

January 23rd, 2012
5:58 am

“Roll that beautiful bean footage.”

–Thomas Jefferson

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2012
5:59 am

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
6:29 am

morning, dB!!

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
6:33 am

Good rainy Monday morning all y’all

You know, the Papa Joe story is extremely Karmic, if you ask me. Lots of cosmic stuff. It’s sad really…

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
6:58 am

Vinny

January 23rd, 2012
7:01 am

America already has its nightmare. Its name is Barrack Hussein Obama

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
7:03 am

Oh well Vinny….I’m still going to vote for him again…

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:08 am

Normal – me, too!

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
7:10 am

USinUK,

Good-o

Brosephus

January 23rd, 2012
7:12 am

America already has its nightmare. Its name is Barrack Hussein Obama

If that is indeed how people on the Right see things, why in the hell are they trying to replace one nightmare (Obama) with the nightmare of all nightmares (Gingrich)? Why would a group of people who proclaim to love their country attempt to completely f**k said country up?

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:18 am

“Why would a group of people who proclaim to love their country attempt to completely f**k said country up?”

is it this century’s “we have to destroy the village to save it” ???

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
7:19 am

SoCo,
Believe me, having lived there, South Carolina is NOT like the rest of the country. Saner heads will prevail…

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:23 am

Normal – were you in the “upstate” or the “low country”??

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
7:25 am

USinUK
I owned a house in Goose Creek and rerported to a ship at Charleston Naval Station.

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2012
7:27 am

NORM!

Me too!

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2012
7:28 am

If that is indeed how people on the Right see things

See, there’s your problem–you seem to care about how people on the Right see things.

I think in 2012 they’ve established themselves as the most irrational, emotion-driven voting bloc out there, and if they want to commit electoral suicide let ‘em.

the Papa Joe story is extremely Karmic, if you ask me. Lots of cosmic stuff. It’s sad really…

Understood. But perhaps one can take some small comfort in knowing that karma exists.

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:28 am

Normal – men – they’re a lot closer to the rest of the country down there than they are in the upstate … they’re downright NUTTY near Greenville …

Brosephus

January 23rd, 2012
7:28 am

Believe me, having lived there, South Carolina is NOT like the rest of the country.

True, but the South typically marches to the same drumbeat. I don’t see any reason to think that any other Southern primary would turn out any different. In the same line of thought, the way the South goes, so does the GOP in most cases.

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:28 am

that should have been meh … not men …

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2012
7:29 am

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:30 am

“In the same line of thought, the way the South goes, so does the GOP in most cases.”

one can only hope …

meanwhile, THIS is classic

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:31 am

Doggone/GA

January 23rd, 2012
7:31 am

“that should have been meh … not men”

Close enough!

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2012
7:31 am

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:32 am

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2012
7:34 am

from GG’s factcheck link

But Gingrich strains the facts when he accuses Obama of being responsible.

if he didn’t strain the facts, he wouldn’t have any facts at all.

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2012
7:35 am

steamy steamy steamy

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2012
7:35 am

UnU @ 7.32, that, and of course judicial appointments.

He coulda bailed on half of those “promises kept” things and he’d still be preferable to the Federalist-society monsters that Mitt will be committed to appointing.

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:36 am

dB – facts, schmacts … he’s never let the truth get in the way of a good soundbite …

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:38 am

dB – 7:35 – gah – and can you even conceive of Newtster’s appointments???

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:41 am

for those of you who are fans of the American version of The Office, you’ll appreciate this “separated at birth”

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320×320/406761_3071800076132_1338620649_n.jpg

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2012
7:41 am

and can you even conceive of Newtster’s appointments???

Why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
7:42 am

Good morning Granny G.

When you said “Me too.” Did you mean you owned a house in Goose Creek or that you reported to a ship at Charleston? :)

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2012
7:43 am

I’m not so worried about Newt’s possible appointments as I am about his dates!

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2012
7:44 am

NORM!

No matter who told you what…I never was a fleet follower.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2012
7:45 am

Switching gears a bit, but would it be shrill of me to suggest that the NRA should whoop, holler and hang up a big “Mission Accomplished” banner to celebrate this news?

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
7:46 am

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2012
7:44 am

:D

Larry Craig

January 23rd, 2012
7:46 am

I never was a fleet follower.

Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:48 am

dB – Barb??? is that you???

Normal

January 23rd, 2012
7:48 am

Stands,
One thing I have to say, I really respect that woman. The country will miss her….and, on a personal note, I wish she had become the poster child to better gun laws.

Jm

January 23rd, 2012
7:48 am

Newt is not going to win the nomination

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2012
7:50 am

Jm

On that we agree.

stands for decibels

January 23rd, 2012
7:55 am

One would think that Mitt merely pointing out that Speaker Heap-Big-Idea-Man couldn’t even get his fat ass on the damn Virginia ballot would be enough of a slam to keep even slightly rational GOP primary voters from supporting Newt, but who knows.

Maybe there aren’t enough slightly rational GOP primary voters to matter.

USinUK

January 23rd, 2012
7:56 am

“Maybe there aren’t enough slightly rational GOP primary voters to matter.”

no, I think that’s the problem … there are entirely too many slighly rational GOP primary voters … not enough fully rational ones …

I mean .. SANTORUM??? NEWT??? criminey.

Paul

January 23rd, 2012
8:01 am

morniin’, USinUK

“I think that’s the problem … there are entirely too many slighly rational GOP primary voters … not enough fully rational ones … ”

Saw a Fox exit poll of those who were undecides right up ’till the end. In the same proportion as Newt’s victory, they rated true conservatism ahead of the economy and the other question had to do with could they vote for someone of that religion.

For the sake of the party, I hope that’s not representative. But then again, it’s their bed to make -

Jay

January 23rd, 2012
8:01 am

Granny Godzilla

January 23rd, 2012
8:03 am

OH and a final thought.

Thanks Mitt for releasing tax return for 2010….

But can we look at 2008? How’d you handle that 45 million loan/gift to yourself?

Dr.EB

January 23rd, 2012
8:35 am

I keep saying that Gingrich is a fighter. Those of us in Georgia know this. Sure, he can be arrogant and hypocritical as far as I am concerned. He has baggage, but he fights as hard as anyone.

However, I heard someone say it best over on a radio program. They said that that the South Carolina debates, especially the one where Juan Williams was attacked, were two steps from a klan rally. (I wonder how many in South Carolina are happy.) Santorum tried a northern version of a southern strategy in Iowa. (Look at the applause he received from the crowd.) Gingrich tried it in South Carolina. I suspect that Gingrich will benefit more from it than Santorum.

I hope that my state will show some decency that we are known to have but am not holding my breath.

gm

January 23rd, 2012
10:24 am

Thank God for Florida, he will not win there, because there are not a bunch of hypocrites bible thumping red necks there. He will win Georgia because you have the same breed of conservertive hypocrites, they hate the President who has family values. morales because of his skin color.
He will not win out west or up north, the south beside Florida, continue to be a joke because of these hypocrite white conservative christians who have no morales or values when it comes to white candidates but yet claim they love Jessus, and point the family at other people faith.