Solution for Israel: ‘Take out’ Obama?
“Damn” is about all you can say about something like this.
“Damn fool” would be the longer version.
Andrew Adler, owner/publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, wrote a column earlier this month musing about the options available to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. As Adler saw it, Netanyahu has three choices:
One, launch a pre-emptive strike against Hamas and Hezbollah.
Two, launch an attack against Iran’s nuclear facilities.
Three, I’ll let you read for yourself:
Adler now says he didn’t really mean it, and is sorry.
Damn fool.
– Jay Bookman
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Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2012
4:22 pm
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
4:06 pm
…possibly criminal records…
There’s your sign. Oy!
kamchak,
Sorry ma’am but that’s just reality. You may not like it but it is what it is. But if it makes ya feel better go on living in denial of one of the things that we both know is an obstacle to many people on the lower end of I-20 moving beyond nonskilled jobs like fast food work.
getalife
January 21st, 2012
4:25 pm
“an America where everybody gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share and everybody plays by the same set of rules.”
vs
The gop governing for the wealthy only with no rules.
The gop will lose.
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
4:25 pm
Sorry ma’am but that’s just reality.
Well, seeing as how I live inside the perimeter and south of I-20 when I’m in the ATL, I really don’t need you to describe that reality, sport.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
4:27 pm
Brosephus, so right.
getalife
January 21st, 2012
4:30 pm
doomy and reality parted ways with the election of President Obama.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 21st, 2012
4:33 pm
TD – so who is at fault for hiring all the (illegal) immigrants for the entry level construction jobs?
Is it the young men trying to better their lives?
You seem to be blaming the young men for where they were born and live.
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
4:33 pm
doomy and reality parted ways with the election of President Obama.
Most self professed economists separated from with reality in their first 1980s era Econ 101 class.
Just sayin’.
JamVet
January 21st, 2012
4:41 pm
For the juvenile delinquent…
http://tinyurl.com/meha9v
td
January 21st, 2012
4:43 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
3:56 pm
I have been reading your post all day and it is apparent that you my friend are a Marxist. Pure and simple. You can call it any other term you choose to but what you are advocating is to completely do away with the capitalistic market, free enterprise system and go to a Marxist system for our markets controlled by a Marxist type of government.
If I was a betting person then I would say you have a liberal arts degree, grew up in a upper middle class to wealthy family and are under 30 years of age.
Kamchak - "Socialism" is just a code word for "fear," the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
4:48 pm
I have been reading your post all day and it is apparent that you my friend are a Marxist.
I have been
readinglaughing vociferously at your posts, and it is apparent that you are a fear monger and afraid of your own shadow.Midori
January 21st, 2012
4:48 pm
oh noesssss!! the dreaded “M” word!!!
td
January 21st, 2012
4:50 pm
Common Sense isn’t very Common
January 21st, 2012
4:33 pm
TD – so who is at fault for hiring all the (illegal) immigrants for the entry level construction jobs?
Is it the young men trying to better their lives?
You seem to be blaming the young men for where they were born and live
First, I do not advocate illegal immigration to this country.
Second: I am not blaming anyone for anything. I am talking about people being held accountable for the actions they take. Are you trying to tell us that if you are born in a poor family then you are not capable of getting an education?
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
4:50 pm
Hiya, Midori!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2KabvvLF7M
getalife
January 21st, 2012
4:52 pm
Where is josef?
He was feeling bad so I hope he is okay.
If you think our cons are bad, Israel’s are worse and they have power.
td
January 21st, 2012
4:53 pm
Kamchak – “Socialism” is just a code word for “fear,” the monster under you bed ~ Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
4:48 pm
I am not afraid of any shadow my friend but I old enough and wise enough to know that communism (in any form) is wrong and history has proven it as such. When you grow up a little my young padawan then you too ma realize this one day.
Common Sense isn't very Common
January 21st, 2012
4:54 pm
TD – I am not talking about a college education.I am talking about entry level construction jobs.
A HS diploma was never a prerequisite for those jobs.
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
4:55 pm
When you grow up a little my young padawan then you too ma realize this one day.
Too funny!
I came of age during the “Red Scare”, sport.
Midori
January 21st, 2012
4:56 pm
Hi Kammy
great song. great video
getalife
January 21st, 2012
4:57 pm
td,
You are stuck in the fifties and mccarthy is your hero.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
4:58 pm
td: “Second: I am not blaming anyone for anything. I am talking about people being held accountable for the actions they take”
But, but. I’ll point out for a second time today the simple fact that the entire economic system is unhinged from any quaint Adam Smithian notions such as thrift, diligence, and responsibility for ones actions.
At the risk of overstating slightly, what matters now is not responsibility in the sense of common everyday responsibility, but what suits the interests of the powerful. Now it’s true that Tom Delay sits in jail, as will Blago soon, and Abramoff did his time. But Citizens United will help further open the floodgates to an era that will make the actions of these men seem, and the fact that they did time for them, seem quaint indeed.
“Are you trying to tell us that if you are born in a poor family then you are not capable of getting an education?”
It’s becoming increasingly difficult to do so, as recent figures on the decline in upward mobility in this country vis-a-vis European countries illustrate. In Europe neoliberal ideology has at least been slowed down in its vicious attack on the notion of a public-funded education (the UK is a different story) and the more you see that idea triumph here, with help from the Tea Party, the harder it will be for average families to send their kids to college.
0311/1811
January 21st, 2012
5:01 pm
getalife:
“When will we go back to being Americans and reverse the cowardly corrupt actions of our congress.
They gave the President more power to spy, lock up and kill Americans.”
And ………. why pray tell didn’t he veto it ?
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
5:01 pm
In Europe neoliberal ideology…
I would suggest the term “neo-classical” or “laissez-faire” as opposed to “neoliberal” as it leads to misunderstanding and confusion.
Just suggestin’.
0311/1811
January 21st, 2012
5:03 pm
Kammie:
“WASHINGTON — Pepsi Beverages Co. will pay $3.1 million to settle federal charges of race discrimination for using criminal background checks to screen out job applicants — even if they weren’t convicted of a crime.
The settlement announced Wednesday with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission is part of a national government crackdown on hiring policies that can hurt blacks and Hispanics.”
………………. so keeping a good record means nothing anymore.
pogo
January 21st, 2012
5:04 pm
I saw an interview with some young college students this morning about why they support Ron Paul. They said that they liked his views on adhering to the American Constitution and his views on the government staying out of our private lives. Ironically, to the man or woman, these young people were Obama supporters in 2008. For those that are willing to see, which apparently is more and more people of all generations, Obama has proven himself ready to run roughshod over the Constitution and to intervene as much as possible into the lives of the American people through his use of the such agencies as the EPA, Homeland Security and the appointment of ultra-liberal individuals to control shadowy pseudo-agencies and departments without Congressional approval. Obama supporters appear to want to be controlled by the government and would can only deduce that this is because they cannot control their own lives themselves.
And for all of you out there that support Obama and his Helathcare program I hope that you will remember the number 70. That is the age at which no matter how severe your medical problem is, you are considered as being a, and I quote from the bill, “a unit” and that any medical procedure that is performed on you will have to go through a government review board for approval before it can be performed. Another words, if you have a stroke and you brain is bleeding the neuro-surgeons will not be able to perform surgery without the government review boards approva. And we all know how sluggish any governmental agency or board moves, don’t we? Does that make you feel better? Was Palin so wrong with the term “Death Panel” as applied to this legislation?
0311/1811
January 21st, 2012
5:04 pm
P.S.
I wonder if the EEOC has gone after the U.S. military for the same thing ?
0311/1811
January 21st, 2012
5:05 pm
Kammie:
I suggest “liberalneo” !
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
5:09 pm
Kamchak: “I would suggest the term “neo-classical” or “laissez-faire” as opposed to “neoliberal” as it leads to misunderstanding and confusion.”
Well we could go for hours on that one, that’s for sure.
I agree in part, but I also favor a mixed approach that throws these words at people like so many spitballs (in the baseball sense, that is) to de-addle their addled, propaganda-washed minds.
One of the most poisonous and dastardly ploys by the right in this country has been to tar the left as ‘liberal’.
As a general rule, though I realize one must be realistic, I think we should subtly and deviously try to mainstream the word ‘liberal’ in its proper, international sense in this country.
getalife
January 21st, 2012
5:11 pm
“And ………. why pray tell didn’t he veto it ?”
To give our troops money to finish the job in Afghanistan.
Sheets.
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
5:13 pm
I agree in part, but I also favor a mixed approach that throws these words at people like so many spitballs (in the baseball sense, that is) to de-addle their addled, propaganda-washed minds.
Plus the added value of being able to weed out the posers who will leap on the “liberal” part of “neoliberal”.
td
January 21st, 2012
5:15 pm
getalife
January 21st, 2012
4:57 pm
td,
You are stuck in the fifties and mccarthy is your hero.
Do not know about stuck in the 50’s but McCarthy was a great American and we need another Joe McCarthy to emerge and crush its ugly head again.
Jay
January 21st, 2012
5:17 pm
And for all of you out there that support Obama and his Helathcare program I hope that you will remember the number 70. That is the age at which no matter how severe your medical problem is, you are considered as being a, and I quote from the bill, “a unit” and that any medical procedure that is performed on you will have to go through a government review board for approval before it can be performed. Another words, if you have a stroke and you brain is bleeding the neuro-surgeons will not be able to perform surgery without the government review boards approval.
Pogo, you ought to be ashamed of posting such … balderdash, because I shouldn’t use the more descriptive term.
td
January 21st, 2012
5:17 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
4:58 pm
Let us just say that theoretically that I agree with your points. What is the answer? How do we solve the problems? Do we have to go to a totally different economic or political system? How would that look?
Jay
January 21st, 2012
5:20 pm
Really, I swear the conservative movement has a secret factory in Ohio somewhere that manufactures nothing but lies. Maybe a whole fleet of such factories. It’s just amazing how many they produce.
0311/1811
January 21st, 2012
5:21 pm
getalife:
“To give our troops money to finish the job in Afghanistan.”
Well then don’t complain ………. you can’t have it both ways.
Brosephus
January 21st, 2012
5:21 pm
And as usual, Scout only tells PART of the story…
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/industries/pepsi-beverages-pays-313-million-to-settle-federal-race-discrimination-charges/2012/01/11/gIQAHtgyqP_story.html
EEOC officials said the company’s policy of not hiring workers with arrest records disproportionately excluded more than 300 black applicants. The policy barred applicants who had been arrested, but not convicted of a crime, and denied employment to others who were convicted of minor offenses.
Using arrest and conviction records to deny employment can be illegal if it’s irrelevant for the job, according to the EEOC, which enforces the nation’s employment discrimination laws. The agency says such blanket policies can limit job opportunities for minorities with higher arrest and conviction rates than whites.
“Now you know the rest of the story.”
–Thomas Jefferson
td
January 21st, 2012
5:22 pm
Common Sense isn’t very Common
January 21st, 2012
4:54 pm
TD – I am not talking about a college education.I am talking about entry level construction jobs.
A HS diploma was never a prerequisite for those jobs.
I will stand behind you on any illegal immigration measure you want to support but you are going to have to convince all these bleeding hearts on this board of your efforts because they are the ones blocking it for the most part.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
5:22 pm
Kam, just to add to my point about the word ‘liberal’ as used by the Rush Limpos of the world, which is to make the term serve as a big bow around a giant package of sh$t for the rubes, to give them a tattered banner to march under, I would note that the right wins to the extent that it can collapse the entire spectrum of political action into a false choice between whatever their favored ideological meme of the day might be (capitalism, free enterprise, patriotism, American exceptionalism, we’re broke) and ‘liberal’, they win.
To the extent that the left can be collapsed into one single label, ‘liberal’, when can then be thrown like a blanket over a Democratic party in disarray, which includes such turncoats as Evan Bayyyyyh Bayh, and Rammmmmm Emanuel, it’s game over for any real alternative to whatever junk the right happens to be trying to ram down our throats at any given time.
One of the most poisonous and dastardly ploys by the right in this country has been to tar the left as ‘liberal’.
Brosephus
January 21st, 2012
5:24 pm
I hope that you will remember the number 70. That is the age at which no matter how severe your medical problem is, you are considered as being a, and I quote from the bill, “a unit” and that any medical procedure that is performed on you will have to go through a government review board for approval before it can be performed.
Well, considering that the lifetime expectancy of a Black male in America doesn’t quite touch 70 yet, I would be honored to make it to “unit” status.
0311/1811
January 21st, 2012
5:31 pm
1 John 1:9
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”
Just sayin’
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
5:32 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
Are you familiar with Geoffrey Nunberg’s book Talking Right: How Conservatives Turned Liberalism Into A Tax-Raising, Latte-Drinking, Sushi-Eating, Volvo-Driving, New York Times-Reading, Body-Piercing, Hollywood-Loving, Left-Wing Freak Show?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
5:33 pm
td: “Let us just say that theoretically that I agree with your points. What is the answer? How do we solve the problems? Do we have to go to a totally different economic or political system? ”
Well according to some (Bernie Sanders, for ex.), we could start by removing big money from the political system.
But in all honesty I wonder whether such measures aren’t just thrusting at shadows, a last ditch effort to avoid despair, and too little too late at this point. I really don’t know whether something that borderline simplistic would work.
td
January 21st, 2012
5:33 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
4:58 pm
“Are you trying to tell us that if you are born in a poor family then you are not capable of getting an education?”
“It’s becoming increasingly difficult to do so, as recent figures on the decline in upward mobility in this country”
Were are those comparisons? Is it harder now then when? Harder then in the 1700’s? 1800’s? 1900-1946? 1947 to 1965? 1965 to 1990? 1990 to present? Why is it that the price of going to college over the last 30 years risen by more then the rate of inflation? Why has the salaries of the professors (mostly far left leaning group) risen at a faster % then the CEO’s of corporations?
Why does the President of UGA need to make over $1 million per year?
0311/1811
January 21st, 2012
5:35 pm
Brosephus :
The EEOC is out of control and they have been for years.
Pepsi should have taken that to the SCOTUS.
I don’t care what the EEOC says ……….. I wouldn’t want someone with an arrest record (and getting off everytime) working for me.
td
January 21st, 2012
5:35 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
5:33 pm
You are avoiding the question at hand. I want to know what you think should happen? How should things be changed to make us a better society?
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
5:44 pm
Kamchak: “Are you familiar with Geoffrey Nunberg’s book Talking Right: How Conservatives Turned Liberalism Into A Tax-Raising, Latte-Drinking, Sushi-Eating, Volvo-Driving, New York Times-Reading, Body-Piercing, Hollywood-Loving, Left-Wing Freak Show?”
Wow, no, but thanks for bringing him to my attention.
A linguist in the tradition of Lakoff perhaps, another linguist who’s long been jumping up and down trying to get a weak and undisciplined Democratic party to wake up to the decisive power of language.
To no avail, for the most part, as you still have the supposedly ‘left’ side of the debate represented by naive, over-bookish technocrats like Barack Obama who thinks ideas and historical values are self-evident and thus don’t need to be fought for to the death at the level of the WORD.
Who’s a politician who understands that in the beginning was the word?
We just saw him in action the other night with another flash of brilliance, when cornered with the word “grandiose” as an accusation, he rared back like Mighty Casey and sent it sailing over the center field fence for all to marvel at.
Now THAT’s how somebody operates who understands that you stand or fall with your understanding of the visceral power of words!
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
5:48 pm
A linguist in the tradition of Lakoff perhaps, another linguist who’s long been jumping up and down trying to get a weak and undisciplined Democratic party to wake up to the decisive power of language.
Yeah, pretty much.
td
January 21st, 2012
5:53 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
5:33 pm
“Well according to some (Bernie Sanders, for ex.), we could start by removing big money from the political system”
How is that going to solve any problem because then the people that can hire the most lobbyist to be in a Representatives office the most time will still get their ideas considered first. Now, here are a couple suggestions that I believe may work.
1: Pass a law that say 100% of contributions must come from a Representative’s district or a Senators state. It does not matter how much and if it is from a individual, corporation or interest group. If you do not live in or have an office in the district or sate then you can not contribute.
2: Sunshine: All contributions must be placed on an easy readable website within 24 hours of receiving them or the money is forfeited to general funds of the state. The website must contain the amount, the name of the person donating, the company the person works for and all organizations the person belongs too.
The voter can then go in and decide if their representative is giving to much consideration to someones issues and hold their own representative accountable. The Representative or Senator would also be much more likely to pay closer attention to their own constituents this way and all these businesses and organizations would have to open up offices all over the country (more jobs) in order to have the same type of influence they currently have.
Welcome to the Occupation
January 21st, 2012
6:24 pm
td, those ideas sound pretty good to me. But obviously the people who are quite happy with the status quo will very much be in opposition, I’m guessing. After all, McCain/Feingold failed not for nothing.
And of course the current system is bipartisan. Take Democrat Charles Schumer, of New York City, is famous for his lavish contributions from his home district which houses the financial industry.
Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)
January 21st, 2012
6:44 pm
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
4:06 pm
…possibly criminal records…
There’s your sign. Oy!
_____________________________________________________________________________
Translation: Although there is truth in what you pointed out, I MUST dismiss it due to the fact that you are one of the bloggers I HATE
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
6:51 pm
…you are one of the bloggers I HATE
Me hate thelma?
Too funny!
thelma doesn’t deserve that much passion.
Just sayin’.
Jm
January 21st, 2012
6:56 pm
1. Stupid idea
2. Doesn’t accomplish the goal anyway of stopping Iran
3. Biden might then elect to nuke Israel, doubly dumb
4. Who takes this guy seriously?
Your Party SUCKS........But My Party is GRRRRRREAT!!!! (formerly That Black Guy)
January 21st, 2012
6:57 pm
Kam, was there truth in what Doomy posted?
Kamchak
January 21st, 2012
7:06 pm
Kam, was there truth in what Doomy posted?
Well, let us get in the wayback machine and revisit the relevant post, shall we?
Thulsa Doom
January 21st, 2012
4:01 pm
kamchak,
Yes. You are correct. But a lot of those people count as unskilled job labor with limited educational attainment, possibly criminal records, not a whole lot going on for them.
A lot have criminal records?
Some do — no doubt that is factual throughout the entire metro Atlanta area, but “a lot” inside the perimeter south of I-20?
I don’t know that and I’ve lived here for 50 some odd years.
Robin
January 21st, 2012
7:26 pm
Appalling! I condemn Adler’s despicable sentiment, and I hope he is vilified in every way. Let him lose his column, career, and last cent. Fortunately its still just a threat, not an action.
I’m glad to see him scrutinized + humiliated. I hope he loses everything.
Seriously?
January 22nd, 2012
5:51 pm
Why isn’t the guy who wrote the article provoking the assassination of a US president on US soil by Israeli sleeper cells mediately locked up, tried and hung or treason against the USA? And why are these sleeper cells roaming free in US soil? This is absolutely insane that its not front page news.
Claudia Duberstein
January 22nd, 2012
6:20 pm
@kayaker 71
“It is a shame that it has come to this. A desperate people who feel that no one is listening” Which desperate people, the Palestinians?.
Austin
January 22nd, 2012
8:19 pm
Note that it’s a given Mossad agents are in the US. Is it anti-semetic to wonder why?
bjclinton
January 23rd, 2012
6:50 am
I completely support Adler. Obama is protecting Iran while paying lip service to Israel. Besides, “take out” was meant in political sense. I am quite sure of it. The only mistake that Adler made is he has given all antisemites a reason to spew their hate with Jay Bookman leading the way.
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