Poor Newt Gingrich, hoisted by his own petard in Iowa
Newt Gingrich’s campaign has apparently gone into freefall in Iowa, to the point that the recent frontrunner has been reduced to musing publicly that a fifth-place finish wouldn’t be so bad. Millions of dollars of negative campaigning aimed in his direction has put a torpedo right in his ample midship.
Newt has complained bitterly about the tactic, calling the attacks “reprehensible” and claiming that the candidates who use them “ought to be ashamed of themselves” and that it “demeans America.” Personally, though, I think there’s a certain poetry in the fact that Gingrich has come undone in such a fashion.
After all, his fellow Republicans are merely using what someone once called “contrasting words,” “powerful words that can create a clear and easily understood contrast.” That certain someone even created a list of such words, urging his followers to “apply these to the opponent, their record, proposals and their party.”
On the vocabulary list drafted by that certain someone and recommended for deployment in politics are many of the words now being directed at Gingrich by members of his own party, and apparently with devastating effect. For example:
abuse of power
betray
bizarre
cheat
coercion
collapse(ing)
corrupt
corruption
cynicism
decay
destroy
destructive
devour
disgrace
endanger
excuses
failure (fail)
greed
hypocrisy
ideological
impose
incompetent
insecure
insensitive
intolerant
liberal
lie
mandate(s)
obsolete
pathetic
radical
self-serving
selfish
sensationalists
shallow
shame
sick
steal
threaten
traitors
waste
Watching all this happen, another word comes to mind, a word that isn’t on that certain someone’s list. That word is karma.
– Jay Bookman
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USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:23 am
“Newt has complained bitterly about the tactic, calling the attacks “reprehensible” and claiming that the candidates who use them “ought to be ashamed of themselves.””
http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/_/7/newt_baby.jpg
(who knew that image would work for OH SO MANY occasions)
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:24 am
woowoo … firsties!!
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
9:24 am
The Nutster, the gift that keeps on giving
Paul
December 29th, 2011
9:25 am
All Hail Prophet Jay, for he foretold what would be!
Out of that list, I like “hypocrisy” the best.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:25 am
“Watching all this happen, another word comes to mind, a word that isn’t on that certain someone’s list. That word is karma.”
another word not on that list … leadership. because it sure as hell doesn’t belong in ANY sentence with the word Newt in it … unless it’s proceeded by the phrase “an utter lack of” …
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
9:25 am
Even worse is that Gingrich is nothing more than a “Jack Abramoff’ that has played the revolving door among political connections, business and lobbying that the Tea Party has railed against.
I would say the Tea Party has been hoisted by their own petard…
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
9:26 am
Pass the popcorn.
0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
9:28 am
Could we please see a list of negative words used by Obama’s party regarding him?
Start with:
DEBT
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
9:29 am
‘It’s hard to look at the current polling and think I won’t be the nominee…’
Delusion, thy name is Gingrich…
FrankLeeDarling
December 29th, 2011
9:30 am
HaHa!
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:30 am
aawwwwww, poor scouty … your team is fielding some lulus this year and all you can think to do is say “but … but … but … Obama!!!”
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
9:30 am
Start with:
DEBT
as in, “Upon taking office, Obama was saddled with trillions of dollars of new DEBT thanks to Chimpy McWarHard-on’s losing combination of massive tax cuts and an Excellent Eye-Rack Adventure.”
quick work break
December 29th, 2011
9:31 am
Makes me wonder if the Obama campaign is going to see these negative ads as essential against the GOP nominee, knowing how gullible the simpletons (majority of all voters) can be. Personally, I think Obama needs to get more bad-@ss in rhetoric. It works for him (”Ask Osama Bin Laden if I practice appeasement!”)
larry
December 29th, 2011
9:31 am
Actually DEBT is a Republican term . Since they are responsible for over 11 trillion of it.
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
9:31 am
0311/1811, who is your choice for the GOP nomination?
Bill Orvis White
December 29th, 2011
9:31 am
The honorable Speaker Gingrich knew that he would be attacked by the establishment Republicans who fear that a dynamic, sharp, seasoned man will actually win. I was talking about this with my fellow Republicans over there in Iowa. They believe that the old guard needs to leave the party and join the Socialist-Democrat Party of America. During his very successful tenure as Speaker, the honorable Mr. Gingrich produced four balanced budgets and did so with a Socialist-Democrat “president” who was barely at the wheel.
A President Gingrich will make us energy independent by loosening up ridiculous regulations on the job creators. President Gingrich would cut the income tax to 15 perecent for all. Mr. Gingrich will beef up our weak defense thereby staring down the jihadists who are roaming the planet unfettered. This man WILL stop Iran’s nuclear program. President Gingrich will create millions of jobs starting on Day One. He’ll scrap the illegal ObamaCare “plan.” The best part of a Gingrich administration will be a return to dignity in the Oval Office and a respect for life in our society. I pray that a President Gingrich WILL elimiinate the Department of Commerce, the Dept. of Miseducation and the EPA.
I’m praying that my friends in Iowa make the right choices on Tuesday and support the honorable Speaker Newt Gingrich. Those negative ads by Restore Our Future are only helping the Socialist-Democrat folk.
Amen,
Bill
larry
December 29th, 2011
9:32 am
And their VP said ” deficits dont matter” .
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
9:32 am
My faves have always been “sick”, “pathetic”.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
9:33 am
Dang, Scout skipped the ABCs.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 29th, 2011
9:34 am
And with Santorum coming from behind like a rocket………. we can look forward to an race made for late night comics. The Karma just won’t stop.
larry
December 29th, 2011
9:34 am
Actually i have been looking at the Republican field like a bunch of clowns in one of those old VW Beetles. I guess who ever figures out how to get out first wins.
It doesnt look good.
quick work break
December 29th, 2011
9:34 am
Bill Orvis White @ 9:31: your second to last paragraph is an homage to science fiction fantasy.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
9:35 am
Santorum coming from behind
heh.
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
9:35 am
Wonder why Newt did not include immoral and unethical in his list?
Bill Orvis White
December 29th, 2011
9:35 am
@larry
Deficits never matter during a time of war. Mr. Cheney was and is still right on that fact. You have to remember that we were attacked and we needed to respond in kind to protect our freedoms.
Back to the present: Vote Speaker Gingrich and vote Speaker Gingrich often. He is the closest thing to the honorable Pres. Ronald Reagan.
Amen,
Bill
Paul
December 29th, 2011
9:36 am
Scout
You may want to try Krauthammer’s approach:
“Embarrassing Candidates Make Obama Look Presidential”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/12/28/krauthammer_embarrassing_candidates_making_obama_look_presidential.html
cosby
December 29th, 2011
9:36 am
Ahh Jay, yu just drool over any republican that has difficulties…but gee…nothing on the Dem side..biased reporting at its best aka the AJC in general…but why not a blog on a $4,000,000 tax payer vacation coupled with a $2,000 dress…the elite in DC. Hmm wonder if they pay their fair share? But then Barry has never had a real job, just a rable rouser who preaches class war fare..and then it looks as if we will be headed back to IRAQ as the troops were pulled out to early for “look at Me” reasoning…give ‘em hell jay!!
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
9:37 am
you left off “flatulent”
Paul
December 29th, 2011
9:38 am
Bill
“The best part of a Gingrich administration will be a return to dignity in the Oval Office”
Based on Newt’s past hobby, I’d predict the first thing he’d do would be to ban blue dresses from the Oval Office -
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
9:38 am
I didn’t see narcissist, arrogant, superiority complexed, entitle-ist, elitist, powermongering, emotionally unqualified, not-to-blame, or egocentric on the list Jay…Of course all of these are also apt titles for our sitting president…..
0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
9:38 am
………………… add “UNPATRIOTIC” to Obama’s list. That’s what he called Bush for a much smaller debt.
Aquagirl
December 29th, 2011
9:38 am
If Newt had kept his petard in his pants, he might not be dangling by it.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
9:39 am
How come “uppity” and “anti-colonial” are not in that list?
Oh, right! Because this was the 90s and we still had mostly WASPs for Presidents.
Mick
December 29th, 2011
9:39 am
Good morning all!
Bill orvis – get your head out of the ground, it’s going to be romney, accept it….then get ready for romney/christie, not a bad ticket. Then, obama will counter by making biden sec. of state and the new dem ticket will be obama/clinton….game over…
0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
9:39 am
Lord Help Us:
I would like to see Romney/Bachmann as a ticket
OR
Any combination to beat Obama.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
9:39 am
Gringrich is incontinent if he is a anything.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 29th, 2011
9:39 am
on Wednesday, Gingrich told a crowd gathered in an Iowa chocolate shop that the reason his campaign’s 11,100 signatures weren’t ruled admissable was because “we hired somebody who turned in false signatures. We turned in 11,100 — we needed 10,000 — 1,500 of them were by one guy who frankly committed fraud.”
That one guy…. A. Corn
And let the voter fraud outrage begin…oh wait there are bound to be more excuses about why this is “different” in the poutrage.
0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
9:39 am
Add “UNQUALIFIED”
Paul
December 29th, 2011
9:40 am
So… will no one defend Newt?
Defend the Indefensible. The Republican slogan for 2012.
Finn
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
9:40 am
Is SANTORUM really coming up from behind? Good play to kick your car keys if dropped…
Ayn Rant
December 29th, 2011
9:41 am
Actually, Gingrich is the most intelligent of the GOP candidates campaigning in Iowa. He alone understands the situation and tries to exploit it. Too bad he’s untrustworthy!
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
9:41 am
Ahh Jay, yu just drool over any republican that has difficulties
yeah, and this is gonna be two full years of droolfestepalooza.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
9:41 am
Dream on Scout…
0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
9:42 am
Add “THUG POLITICS”
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
9:42 am
ADAM,
Howdy. Good additions to my list of those adjectives or other descriptions shared by BO and Newt….can you think of anymore? I also forgot unethical, bait-and-switchers, lobbyist compromised….
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:42 am
“Based on Newt’s past hobby, I’d predict the first thing he’d do would be to ban blue dresses from the Oval Office -”
based on Newt’s past indiscretions, I’d predict the first thing he’d do would be to remove blue dresses from Oval Office staff …
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
9:43 am
That’s what he called Bush for a much smaller debt.
Scout’s bible doesn’t have a Ninth Commandment, apparently.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:43 am
“That one guy…. A. Corn”
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
9:43 am
Seriously, a country of 311 million people and these are the 7 best you folks can come up with?
Really?
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
9:43 am
Can anyone tell me if Jay does a formal column during the week and if so, can I get it for free or do I have to pay? I want to recall he did one on Wednesdays…
Adam
December 29th, 2011
9:43 am
Scout: Every single addition you’ve put up here can be applied to Newt. Keep going! I love it!
Paul
December 29th, 2011
9:44 am
Normal
Be kind. Scout’s still healing. The meds are talking. It’s a loop of “all Obama, all the time.”
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
9:44 am
Lord help us: “Wonder why Newt did not include immoral and unethical in his list?”
His objective was to destroy the whole tradition of comity and civility that had characterized the political class in that era.
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
9:44 am
0311, I would also like to see Romney on the top of the ticket (or, even better, Huntsman). As I have stated before, I would likely vote for Huntsman over Obama. I would consider Romney over Obama (but not if Bachmann is on the ticket).
I would donate extensively to every Dem organization and volunteer my time FOR Obama if any of the others contenders (such as Gingrich) get the GOP nomination.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
9:46 am
USinUK
Nice double entendre.
Bill’s going ‘huh???? what????”
Mick
December 29th, 2011
9:46 am
If romney picked bachmann, it would be akin to mccain picking palin, it would hurt him tremendously with the independents who get to decide this thing…
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
9:47 am
Newt “Protector of the Sanctity of Marriage” Gingrich? That Newt?
ok
Jay
December 29th, 2011
9:47 am
Stevie, Wednesday and Sunday columns in the AJC. They’re posted here as blog items. Yesterday’s was on the DNR board.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
9:48 am
Stevie Ray: “uppity” does not apply to either Newt or Obama. “anti-colonial” applies to every American.
Aquagirl
December 29th, 2011
9:49 am
Is SANTORUM really coming up from behind?
Frothing and ready for action.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:49 am
“Newt “Protector of the Sanctity of Marriage” Gingrich? That Newt?”
not quite as good of a sobriquet as Rick “Man on Dog” Santorum, but it’ll do …
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
9:49 am
Romney is going to run a ticket with Sharron Angle…or that lady that had to go on tv to say she wasn’t a witch.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
9:50 am
Aquagirl: pass the screen cleaner, and the mind soap.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:51 am
Paul – 9:46 – me, I’m just distraught that we didn’t hear from the guy downstairs once and for all telling us which regulations have stymied economic recovery …
(although, I do love how that question shuts them the hell up)
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
9:51 am
JAY,
I really dig Glenn Greenwald…I read him daily. I thought he was a liberal, if so, he is by far and away the most balanced I’ve ever experienced..check this out…all of you liberal leaners should note how bi-partisan this guy is…
http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/
Normal
December 29th, 2011
9:51 am
Ol’ Newt will be OK, win or lose. He’ll just write another book, land a few speaking gigs, maybe even bee a commentator for the GOP during the Presidential election…all for a substantial fee, of course…
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
9:51 am
By the way, lest I forget:
a torpedo right in his ample midship
[golf clap for Jay]
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
9:52 am
Thanks Jay…I was concerned I was missing something…
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
9:52 am
Stevie – “all of you liberal leaners should note how bi-partisan this guy is…”
most of us “liberal leaners” have been referencing Glenn Greenwald for years – only to be pooh-poohed for quoting Salon …
but, welcome to the party, anyway … canapes are in the kitchen … the beer is out back …
Normal
December 29th, 2011
9:52 am
Is SANTORUM really coming up from behind?
From behind what?
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
9:54 am
Note to Romney: Should you win the GOP nomination, many moderate voters will be swayed in your direction based on a few points:
First, if you persist with the ‘Repeal Obamacare’ screed to the radical GOP contingent, you need to emphasize how it will be replaced…then replace it before you repeal the ACA.
Second, run on your successful record governing a progressive state.
Do these things and you will be elected.
Bill Orvis White
December 29th, 2011
9:54 am
@mick
I would take Governor Romney over this nightmare who is occupying the White House at the moment. A Romney/Christie ticket WILL beat an Obama/Biden or Obama/Billary ticket any year.
Amen,
Bill
granny godzilla and baby g too!
December 29th, 2011
9:54 am
Newt….what goes around comes around.
Taking today off – my 55th birthday – and hanging with my favorite men.
Here’s Baby G’s first blog post:
gytmkjgfffdf
Normal
December 29th, 2011
9:54 am
Stands @ 0951,
I’ve often wondered when Newt takes a cruise, does he go on a whaler?
OBAMA LIAR
December 29th, 2011
9:55 am
Obama gave the PLO, Hamas, Hezbullah, and the Muslim Brotherhood 40 million dollars yesterday and wants to give them 147 million dollars more. WHY? Obama is a traitor and must be thrown out of office now. Jay you are a liar aswell for the corrupt progressive democrats.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
9:55 am
Happ Birthday Granny G.
55 Huh? Gawd, how young you are….
Normal
December 29th, 2011
9:57 am
well, that’s supposed to be HAPPY, but consider the source…
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
9:57 am
all of you liberal leaners should note how bi-partisan this guy is…
I’ve been reading Glennzilla for years and yes, as you note, he doesn’t pull any punches.
(I’d quoted from his excellent piece on the protocol for public figure deaths after Christopher Hitchens’ passing, a week or so back.)
Mick
December 29th, 2011
9:57 am
Actually, greenwald is nothing but consistent concerning rendition, illegal wiretapping, no matter who is president…
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
9:58 am
USNUK,
I’m on the wagon but will definitely abduct your party girls but I’d still not be welcomed at your parties anymore than the one’s across the street….Take another look at Greenwalds last several columns on BO…he’s not exactly a blind supporter…if fact, he spends much time drawing growing similarities between Bush and BO…
ADAM,
I disagree and think “uppity” applies to both..had to reference dictionary….”Taking liberties or assuming airs beyond one’s station; presumptuous: “was getting a little uppity and needed to be slapped down”
Paul
December 29th, 2011
9:58 am
USinUK 9:51
One more time…..
THERE ARE NO SUPPORTING DATA FOR SOUND BITES AND TALKING POINTS!!!!!!
Clint said “A man’s gotta know his limitations.’
Those guys never saw the movie.
Jay the Liar
December 29th, 2011
9:59 am
Obama gave 40 million tax payers dollars to the PLO, hamas, hezbullah today and wants to give them 147 million more. Jay you never write anything about how corrupt Obama and the democrats are. WHY????
larry
December 29th, 2011
10:00 am
Second, run on your successful record governing a progressive state
Yep, dont let them know that Mass. was 47th in job creation while you were governor .
And certainly dont let them know about your escapades with Bain Capital .
Or let them see your tax return.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 29th, 2011
10:00 am
Baby G makes more sense than some of our right wingnuts
Paul
December 29th, 2011
10:01 am
Happy Birthday, Granny Godzilla!
Ain’t life great?
kayaker 71
December 29th, 2011
10:01 am
Another Newt rant to appease the liberal love in. The same old stale meat thrown into the ring allowing yet another long list of invectives to be leveled at a pretty good man. He has his warts, admitted, but he is so far ahead of the dolt that occupies that Kailua vacation home at 10K/night that the comparison is really absurd. Virtually nothing that Bozo has done has worked. It has cost more than he said it would and, for the most part, has been an abject failure. We have poured gazillions of dollars down some hole in the ground and to what avail? He shuffles the unemployment numbers to try to massage his image while 120 Sears/K-Mart stores close their doors. You can spin this idiot all you want and the bottom line….. he is still the same old community organizer that he was in 2008. And you are going to vote for him AGAIN!!! I wonder who is the worst enemy of this country, Bozo or those who vote for him.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:01 am
Paul – 9:58 – these guys think that quoting talk radio IS proof …
it’s the regulations, stupid!!!
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:02 am
Stevie – “I’m on the wagon but will definitely abduct your party girls but I’d still not be welcomed at your parties anymore than the one’s across the street”
meh – who wants to throw a party where everyone is exactly alike …
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:03 am
OBAMALIAR,
As amazing as it may seem, I actually agree with ending our enablement of the failed Zionist experiment. You have to agree it hasn’t really worked out and we’ve been fighting thier battles since inception and not a single thing has changed…I’m not sure why we boast they are our best ally in the region because all the others who actually have oil (our national interests) aren’t referred to as same…
The name calling thingy should remain in the sandbox…
getalife
December 29th, 2011
10:03 am
sanitarium takes the lead.
Oh my.
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:04 am
OK Paul… You want me to comment here ?
For starters we have guys like Bill Orvis White making up history, as if Bin Laden and Saddam were working together.LOL !
But hey don’t let me tell a ” Religious Man “……. Killing for oil is not good !
I really don’t have much of an opinion about Newt, since he will become irrelevant soon.
I do think in general, all those words can be used for candidates of BOTH parties.
Aquagirl
December 29th, 2011
10:04 am
From behind what?
Uh, the “behind” in that sentence was not a preposition.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 29th, 2011
10:04 am
And I forgot to say….Happy B’day Granny!
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
10:04 am
dont let them know about your escapades with Bain Capital .
Or let them see your tax return.
yeah, it’s not exactly a bold prediction to say the silence from our Birther brethren on that score will be deafening when Mittens is the actual nominee in 2012.
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
10:05 am
jay the liar – “Jay you never write anything about how corrupt Obama and the democrats are. WHY????
I’m guessing for the same reason that Kyle Wingfield doesn’t write articles about how corrupt the GOP is.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:05 am
Stevie: I reject the notion that any one American has a “station” higher than another. Therefore, “uppity” applies to no one.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:05 am
Liar – hate to be the one to break it to you, but aid to palestine isn’t anything new
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RS22967.pdf
Misty Fyed
December 29th, 2011
10:05 am
I’m still loving Newt. Primarily because you guys hate him so much, but also because of the blue-blood establishment’s response to him. Republicanism is dead, they just don’t know it yet. Bush killed it. At some point it time they have to figure out you can’t be “big government” and “low taxes”. You have to pay for what you pass. You can’t privatize everything. Somethings are best administered by government.
I think killing Newts campaign was a republican initiative. He is the only one that would hold both side’s of congress’s feet to the fire to pass meaningful legislation to fix the mess we have instead of posturing with radical unpassable legislation for the purpose of political sound bites.
larry
December 29th, 2011
10:05 am
I’d rather have a community organizer over a mergers and aquistions guy responsible for throwing hundreds of thousands of people out of work any day.
The fact that he is still being paid by Bain Capital is painful for the Repubs.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:06 am
USNUK,
I will take you up on your offer then…I will leave early when the shout downs begin and go across the street and solicit the same…hoping to stay clean and get lucky in the process…
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:06 am
Clint said “A man’s gotta know his limitations.’
Who also said: ‘Dying aint much of a livin’
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
10:07 am
greenwald is nothing but consistent concerning rendition, illegal wiretapping, no matter who is president…
as are Sam Seder and Duncan Black (aka “Atrios”), two of my other favorite DFH pundits.
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
10:07 am
Anyone else notice that everytime one of these idiot candidate takes a dive the party faithful automatically shift into how bad Obama is? Not saying he’s great, but it really doesn’t bolster their position by saying that the guy going down in flames is better than the guy who isn’t. Just sayin.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
10:09 am
Peter!
You found your way out of the vortex!
You probably do not realize how fortunate you rare.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:10 am
ADAM,
Since both are above the law relative to corruption and cronyism, I suggest that reflects they both feel they possess higher station in life than the rest of us…as do Cheney, Bush, Pelosi, Reid, Hastert…long and less than distinguished list of those uppity politicians…too bad we are collectively too sheepish to bit#h slap them down so they are held legally and ethically accountable same as the rest of us…
larry
December 29th, 2011
10:11 am
Anyone else notice that everytime one of these idiot candidate takes a dive the party faithful automatically shift into how bad Obama is?
They need to boster their self esteem. They know that their field is not what they wanted. They also know after the Bush debacle, no one of any substance decided not to enter the race. I wonder if Tim Palenty is kicking himself for getting out of the race too early.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:12 am
Note that Greenwald points out Rachel Maddow as being one of the few tv personalities to take issue with the Obama administration’s expansion of the drone wars.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
10:12 am
larry
So it’s better that crippled companies limp along and eventually go under, tossing lots of folks out of jobs than it is to take over a failing company, get rid of the diseased part, put the company on a course to success so it can grow and expand and create more jobs?
There’s a lot of qualifiers behind the talking points.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:13 am
Misty Fyed: You can’t privatize everything. Somethings are best administered by government.
Now we’re getting somewhere….
Bill Orvis White
December 29th, 2011
10:14 am
@larry
The honorable Gov. Romney had to make painful choices just like any good businessman has to make. Right now, I’m making painful choices not to hire anyone until Hussein Obama leaves office. This is the most business-unfriendly anti-colonialist president that the world has ever seen.
@Stevie Ray
You’re an anti-Semite like Ron Paul. The so-called Zionist Experiment is a battle between good versus evil, pure and simple. WE THE PEOPLE know that the good people of Israel need to be protected from the evildoers in that neighborhood.
Amen,
Bill
Mr. Snarky
December 29th, 2011
10:15 am
Wow…that list of words…was Newt looking for words to describe himself in 2011? That man has vision.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:15 am
STANDS,
Thanks for referrals to add to my often nauseating search beyond the half-truths spouted by far right and leftist…Maybe I can get a rise out of one of them unlike my failure to do so after more letters to congressfolks on both sides…all I ever got from that toil is thanks for contacting us and an equal number of requests for donations….mostly after submitting rants about how crappy a job the addressees are doing..
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:15 am
Paul……. I have maintained my “independence” from both parties, most of my life….. I do vote according to the lesser of 2 evils in most cases.
I really also believe in a persons individual choice, but understand that Government has a “role ” to play, and if they play within a certain role then I support it.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:16 am
Stevie Ray: Do you understand what is meant by someone’s “station?” It means basically “Know your place, knave.” I reject that notion, as do many Americans. We have elected officials and rich people, but make no mistake – they are not entitled to be there forever, and they are not entitled to smack anyone else down who is trying to be in those positions.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:17 am
“This is the most business-unfriendly anti-colonialist president that the world has ever seen.”
which is why the DOW has increased 50.4% since he took office.
YAY!
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
10:17 am
Stevie Ray: “I really dig Glenn Greenwald…I read him daily. I thought he was a liberal, if so, he is by far and away the most balanced I’ve ever experienced. ..”
What’s a ‘liberal’?
If Greenwald is a liberal, then that poses a problem for all those people who define liberal as someone who endlessly cheer-leads on behalf of Barack Obama no matter what he does (which, in fairness, is the norm among large segments of the “progressive” media class — I’m thinking here of people like Al Sharpton, Melissa Harris-Perry, Eugene Robinson, Rachel Maddow, but does NOT include Chris Matthews or Greenwald, to their credit).
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:20 am
“This is the most business-unfriendly anti-colonialist president that the world has ever seen.”
i.e.”I can’t seem to run a business profitably.”
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:21 am
BILLORVIS,
Labeling me an anti-semite is quite an accomplishment. Pointing out that no evidence exists that the Zionist state is a success and represents only democracy is religiously & ethnically discriminatory is quite different than suggesting I possess an unreasonable hatred of all things Jewish. I can put my spouse on the blog….her maiden name is Silverstein…
Leave the name calling in the sandbox there genious….generally means you concede the debate.
JKL2
December 29th, 2011
10:21 am
-Misty Fyed: You can’t privatize everything. Somethings are best administered by government.
If only we had some kind of document that said what the government was and wasn’t supposed to do…
deegee
December 29th, 2011
10:22 am
Has it occurred to anyone that people in Iowa just love this kind of attention? What else do they have outside of a straw poll in August and a presidential caucus every 4 years? The fact that they are first is meaningless if you consider that at least half of the electorate will cast their vote based on what they heard in a 30 second sound bite approximately 24 hours before entering the polling place. Let’s give it a rest already.
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
10:22 am
If Romney wins the nominations (and does not pick a gimmick VP), his record as Governor of Mass will be the most relevant item to me.
I was a bit surprised to see how his job approval withered during his last couple of years as Gov.
His experience with Bain will mean very little to me…he ran a successful company. Period.
I also believe that if he gets the nomination and embraces, rather than abdicates, his healthcare accomplishment that he will win.
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:23 am
Bill Orvis White . If you are not hiring, then maybe your business plan is not working ?
For you to blame your business not working out on the President is a JOKE…. Corporate America is BOOMING !
Please you have more excuses for everything, and God is not helping your business is he ?
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:24 am
oh, and while we’re talking about how Obama is so bad for bidness, the S&P is also up 50% since he took office … the NASDAQ is up 75% … and corporations are sitting on record profits …
but other than that, what did the Romans ever do for us …
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:24 am
Lord Help Us . If you want Romney….then of course you should be all in with the Obama Health care plan correct ?
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:25 am
Finn – “i.e.”I can’t seem to run a business profitably.””
more like “I can’t run a business profitably … but it’s someone else’s fault”
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:25 am
WELCOME,
Thanks for response…Jay turned me on to him as a liberal worth reading…He clearly falls into my way of centrist thinking…I may have misunderstood the liberal leaning label…Agreed on others particularly anyone on the Democratic channel MSNBC who are as partisan as FOX. Both have high entertainment value in my book but worthless as credible info sources for the most part…My favorites are BIGED and John (Jerry Springer) Gibson…both masters of the shoutdown.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:25 am
“What else do they have outside of a straw poll in August and a presidential caucus every 4 years?”
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaang … talk about an east coast elitist
sheepdawg
December 29th, 2011
10:26 am
I’ll miss newt, he’s a funny guy.
Gator Joe
December 29th, 2011
10:27 am
Jay:
The racists, the bigots and the narrow-minded, united in their blind hatred for President Obama will desperately grasp at any candidate no matter how unqualified they are to actually be the President. While this spectacle is amusing, it is at the same time pathetic and tragic.
sheepdawg
December 29th, 2011
10:27 am
So happy newt is getting his well earned and deserved praise!!!!
sheepdawg
December 29th, 2011
10:27 am
what an f ing idiot……
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:28 am
ADAM,
Guess we will agree to disagree on the uppity label..I don’t like the word to begin with but feel that anyone feels a sense of entitlement the rest of us don’t share fall into that category. That basically covers most inside the beltway.
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
10:28 am
‘Lord Help Us . If you want Romney….then of course you should be all in with the Obama Health care plan correct ?’
Put me in the camp of, ‘it does not go far enough.’ However, it was the best that could be done at the time with political realities.
Eventually, we will go to single payer. Takes the burden off business and dramatically lowers the cost.
avemaria old bean
December 29th, 2011
10:28 am
Hoist “with” or “upon” but not “by”
Once again the intelligence of the editorial writers shines dimly:
The word petard comes from the Middle French peter, to break wind, from pet expulsion of intestinal gas, from Latin peditum, from neuter of peditus, past participle of pedere, to break wind; akin to Greek bdein to break wind. (Merriam-Webster) Petard remains a French word meaning a firecracker today (in French slang, it means a handgun, or a joint).
The word remains in modern usage in the phrase hoist with one’s own petard, which means “to be harmed by one’s own plan to harm someone else” or “to fall into one’s own trap,” literally implying that one could be lifted up (hoist, or blown upward) by one’s own bomb.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:30 am
USNUK,
What do you suppose the underlying reason these corporations are sitting on record amounts of cash which drive up share value?
What will happen when they actually put this money to work?
Bill Orvis White
December 29th, 2011
10:30 am
@Stevie Ray
I’m just dedicated to spreading the truth, “sir.” You’re either with those who care about good defeating evil or you’re against it and with the jihadists who wish to destroy our way of life.
@Peter
I’m not hiring because of the uncertainty that the Hussein Obama “administration” has created.
Amen,
Bill
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:30 am
Lord Help Us ………Well I know folks trying to get Blue Cross and Blue Shield….. one person in the past had a “Cholesterol issue” they said, and denied her coverage.
How is that working for the Individual ?
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:30 am
petard comes from the Middle French peter, to break wind,..
Sounds appropriate to me. Whenever Newt opens his mouth….
Donovan
December 29th, 2011
10:31 am
Thanks again Jay for your astute observation of yet another GOP candidate. It just seems that there is no one amongst this group of Republicans that are qualified to be president.
Wait a minute…I get lost in the rhetoric of this blog site. I regretably loose sight of the fact that you are a liberal, preach to a liberal audience, and enjoy the collective lunatic ideas of your political party. Is it any wonder that you and your blog club have voted for immoral liars and inexperienced community organizers to represent the office of the president. Therefore, pragmatic people and common sense people take you guys with a grain of salt and swallow your rhetoric with a healthy dose of lubricant.
No matter who you demean and rail against, the fact remains that any one of these candidates are a far better choice for president than the one you voted for and are trying to defend. His record speaks for himself. The congressional Democrats (Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Boxer, Schumer, Frank, Franken, etc.) lead the pack in kook ideology.
We have historical debt on account of the above lunatics. Your Democrat Senate has failed to pass a balanced budget in over 900 days. This group proudly proclaims cost cutting initiatives from the House as DOA before it even arrives on the Senate floor. It’s their way or no way. Pathetic.
There is no serious thought to the idea of reduced spending. There is no serious thought to the idea of curtailed borrowing. There is no responsibility in fiscal management. You spend like drunken sailors. Is it any wonder business owners won’t invest when there is uncertainty in their future?
We have ideas, but you Democrats have none. You Democrats have nothing to offer but cheesy 2 month plans of kicking the can down the road and ripping the good intentions of your political opponents.
Get on board or get out of the way.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
10:31 am
I’m making painful choices not to hire anyone until Hussein Obama leaves office.
And “Joe the Plumber” really WAS about to buy a business that would provide him with personal income above $250K per year, but was hesitant to do so because he was afraid his income taxes might go up at some point. Uh huh.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:32 am
I’m not hiring because of the uncertainty that the Hussein Obama “administration” has created.
umm, you’re not hiring cause aint nobody buying what you’re selling.
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
10:32 am
‘How is that working for the Individual ?’
Better now than before ACA…
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:32 am
“What do you suppose the underlying reason these corporations are sitting on record amounts of cash which drive up share value?”
welp … what’s going on in Europe isn’t helping – predictions of a double-dip in the UK and Eurozone is going to create a significant headwind
plus … it’s short-term thinking (the paradox of thrift) – they’re afraid of spending too much in case of the US going into a double-dip – but, it’s BECAUSE they’re not spending and hiring that could actually CAUSE the double-dip
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:33 am
Bill Orvis White.. DUMB statement….when is having a business ever certain ?
That would be a business plan, and adapting like any company does.
When is getting up and driving certain, eating something certain, taking a shower, or sleeping certain ?
Please tell me what your issue is…..cause you talk silly.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:33 am
“It just seems that there is no one amongst this group of Republicans that are qualified to be president.”
truth. it hurts.
Smelly Liberal Land
December 29th, 2011
10:33 am
You are almost there, Jay. Two or three conservatives left. But my, my what a large group of bobble heads you have here.
Let’s all agree with Jay. He likes it like that. He’s banned almost everyone who doesn’t agree with him.
Jay’s a god on this blog. He can post whatever he wants and these people will praise him as the wise one. Its his own little perfect world.
And the same ones are here, every day, every single day.
How completely pathetic.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:34 am
We have historical debt on account of the above lunatics.
Umm, no. We have historic debt due to somebody giving out tax breaks while running two simultaneous wars.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:34 am
What will happen when they actually put this money to work?
Jobs and economic growth. Now granted, they could just release a LITTLE of it, hire maybe just a tad more workforce. Right now, workers are doing the work of 3-5 people because of cut backs. Businesses COULD respect the need for humans to get some rest and have less stress in order to do better work, OR they could focus on how much money they are saving by forcing people to do tons more work than they used to at reduced cost.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
10:35 am
“I’m still loving Newt. Primarily because you guys hate him so much”
Never underestimate the ignorance of the American voter.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
10:35 am
The congressional Democrats (Pelosi, Reid, Kerry, Boxer, Schumer, Frank, Franken, etc.) lead the pack in kook ideology.
Donovan, I’ll probably regret this, but I’ve got to ask, and I’ll make it super simple for you.
Just what “kook”y legislation has, oh, Al Franken supported and/or voted for? Please explain what was/is “kooky” about it.
thanks in advance.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:35 am
GATOR,
Why is anyone who disagrees with your way of thinking a bigot, or narrow minded racist? It’s not like your party haven’t done everything in their power to unseat any sitting member of the other party.
BO was completely unqualified relatively speaking….other than a talent for gum flapping. His history in Congress was less than distinguished and his display of poor, spineless leadership (it’s not my fault…) is not a record of substance enough for re-election….Unfortunately, he will be the best of the worst it would appear..
md
December 29th, 2011
10:35 am
“oh, and while we’re talking about how Obama is so bad for bidness, the S&P is also up 50% since he took office … the NASDAQ is up 75% … and corporations are sitting on record profits … ”
What would one expect when good companies were devalued for the sake of devaluing?
These companies didn’t all go bad over night just because Wall St had a sell off.
And to clarify, SOME corporations are sitting on big profits…….but it is hardly the majority. The mom and pops make up the majority, and they aren’t doing quite as well.
And what would one expect in the way of profits when these corps lay off tons of employees? It’s not hard to see that a good bit of it is through subtraction……not addition.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:36 am
“He’s banned almost everyone who doesn’t agree with him. ”
who brought the hair shirt … we seem to have a new martyr for The Cause …
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:36 am
Donovan: It just seems that there is no one amongst this group of Republicans that are qualified to be president.
Huntsman and Romney would be “qualified,” and Romney would not be a good choice because he would basically rubber stamp GOP positions of the political winds of any particular time. Huntsman would be an ok choice, because he would think about and seriously consider the impacts of his words and actions.
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:36 am
Smelly Liberal Land… Really….. tell us all about the GOP Mantras then ? Thank you.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:36 am
Next up, Rick Santorum!
Gonna be more fun than Newt!
Jay
December 29th, 2011
10:36 am
Ave writes:
“…literally implying that one could be lifted up (hoist, or blown upward) by one’s own bomb.”
So one can be hoisted BY one’s own bomb, but not BY one’s own petard, which itself is a bomb?
Sorry professor. You fail. You have been hoisted by your own by, so to speak.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
10:36 am
Businesses COULD respect the need for humans to get some rest and have less stress in order to do better work, OR they could focus on how much money they are saving by forcing people to do tons more work than they used to at reduced cost.
And I’ll give you three guesses as to what collective choice they invariably make without being nudged by responsible legislation.
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:37 am
hey md…….The mom and pops make up the majority, and they aren’t doing quite as well.
Tells us what business are they in that are not doing so well please.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
10:37 am
Enter your comments here
dw
December 29th, 2011
10:38 am
GOOD ONE AQUAGIRL!
Bill Orvis White
December 29th, 2011
10:38 am
@Finn McCool
I am plenty busy, but I WILL NOT hire or invest because I’m nervous that Hussein Obama and his band of thugs are coming to confiscate my earnings and place draconian regulations on me.
Amen,
Bill
Whocares?
December 29th, 2011
10:38 am
How can ANYONE take Ol Bill seriously when he INSISTS on calling our president “Hussein” Obama..instead of using his rightful first name? Doesn’t that speak volumes about his thought processes (or lack thereof).
Sir: you are NOT hiring, because apparently, your business isn’t DOING well enough to justify that. It has nothing to do with the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Stop deluding yourself and making yourself out to be some kind of martyr.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 29th, 2011
10:38 am
I’m just dedicated to spreading the truth, “sir.” You’re either with those who care about good defeating evil or you’re against it and with the jihadists who wish to destroy our way of life.
I am with you Billy! I am against those Christian jihadist and Republican jihadists too……we must defeat the evilllllllllll that spreads hatred against so many Americans and against the HONORABLE Barack H. Obama, the duly elected President of this country. I am sure your little militia group will be fighting to preserve the rights of Americans to free speech and liberty. Freedom from corporate excess and abuses. Freedom to worship as any person may choose include “pagan” religions or even not to believe. Freedom to be educated without imposition of religious beliefs as “science”. Be a real patriot Billy. Join us in wrapping ourselves in the flag and using the buzzwords. Perhaps we can all stand on a hill and scream Freedom together after painting our faces half in blue…or is that too smurfy?
mm
December 29th, 2011
10:38 am
“but why not a blog on a $4,000,000 tax payer vacation coupled with a $2,000 dress”
Bush was on vacation over 900 days in 8 years. You righties are pathetic.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
10:39 am
avemaria old bean, is that you josef?
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:39 am
Companies do well when the middle class has money and buys stuff. Gonna be a long while till (if) that ever comes around again. It’s a new day.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:40 am
How can ANYONE take Ol Bill seriously
He IS pretty good at disguising the fact that he is complete satire. It’s really quite good acting.
F. Sinkwich
December 29th, 2011
10:41 am
“… and corporations are sitting on record profits …”
Because they they are afraid to invest in an economy facing increasing and uncertain regulatory burdens.
We know O’bozo wants energy costs to “necessarily skyrocket” which he his accomplishing through the EPA. He wants healthcare costs to increase. He wants taxes to increase. He wants to expand the reach of government to aspect of our lives — reflecting his euro-socialist belief system.
All that ain’t pro-business.
JKL2
December 29th, 2011
10:41 am
getalife- Never underestimate the ignorance of the American voter.
After all, we do have “president obama”
When skin color is all that matters, vote obama. Free money for everyone!
Thomas
December 29th, 2011
10:42 am
i.e.”I can’t seem to run a business profitably.”
Please do tell of your immense business successes
A dad
December 29th, 2011
10:42 am
Just signing on, albeit briefly. In all honesty, I think Gingrich would make a fair POTUS. He is accomplished in the political arena, and there were some positives during his tenure as speaker. Too bad he’s just such a horse’s arse though. I’d be afraid he would annoint him self King or Ceasar or something and send all dissenters to a gulag somewere in Alabama, or, worse yet, Arkansas.
Shame you can take his political accumen and blend it with someone more even-keeled. Only problem is finding that person.
SFD – Pelosi got a two million dollar grant to study the Salt Marsh Harvest mouse (or something like that) in the SFBay area. May not be legislation, per se, but you have to admit what a waste of tax payer dinero. But guess something like this is ok when a Dem does it.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
10:42 am
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:40 am
Adam,
I agree…it took me awhile, but when I really started reading his stuff, I got it. He is a master at satire.
LawDawg
December 29th, 2011
10:42 am
Maybe Newt actually has grown as a person. I figured by now his ego would have had him comparing himself to Jesus.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:42 am
but why not a blog on a $4,000,000 tax payer vacation coupled with a $2,000 dress
As I said before, claiming a $4m trip smacks of that whole “$200m per day trip to Asia” that never was. Your credibility on the numbers is nil without some proof. It’s also really clear that this came straight from right wing talk radio, which gives it even less credibility (if that’s even possible).
F. Sinkwich
December 29th, 2011
10:43 am
“Gonna be a long while till (if) that ever comes around again. It’s a new day.”
Thanks to O’bozo.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:43 am
BILLORVIS,
Evil is a relative term and the presumption that “the truth can be found with Big Bill” sounds like the jingle for either FOX or MSNBC. By any measure, the ZIONIST state is a failure….we should have given them South Dakota….we certainly are not defeating any evil with our support, seems to me it has taken on a life of it’s own and increased over time with the Israelis need to expand their racist kingdom….Quite an arrogant tone you have assumed. Must be difficult always being right….
I suspect you think 911 et al are a response to Muslim’s wanting to destroy our Christian, captialist values as opposed to payback for our support of the Jewish state and generally keeping our noses firmly under their tents in the name of security interests…???
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
10:43 am
JKL2: “When skin color is all that matters, vote obama. Free money for everyone!”
Unless your token ’skin color’ candidate happens to be named Herman Cain, in which case the most avid and dedicated support is all hunky dory.
Newtpewt
December 29th, 2011
10:43 am
Here’s a retrospective on Newtron-Bomb, in a “Frontline” Documentary from 1996…you can watch it online:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/
Newtie’s tactics are biting him in the bohunkus, big time!!
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:43 am
“These companies didn’t all go bad over night just because Wall St had a sell off.”
nor have they all recovered because people took advantage of cheap prices.
as for the mom-and-pops, who did YOU do your Cmas shopping with??? Amazon or the shop on the corner?
Erwin's cat
December 29th, 2011
10:44 am
Right now, workers are doing the work of 3-5 people because of cut backs. Businesses COULD respect the need for humans to get some rest and have less stress in order to do better work, OR they could focus on how much money they are saving by forcing people to do tons more work than they used to at reduced cost.
I’m speechless
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:44 am
F. Sinkwich: We know O’bozo wants energy costs to “necessarily skyrocket” which he his accomplishing through the EPA.
And that’s why gas prices dropped recently and have stayed at or below $3/gallon for a while!
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:44 am
Well Bill Orvis White just announced to the world…. ” HIS FEAR ” being afraid is not a way to live Bill…..
I WILL NOT hire or invest because I’m nervous that Hussein Obama and his band of thugs are coming to confiscate my earnings and place draconian regulations on me.
What are you doing fro business Bill that Obama is going to target YOU ?
I really thought you claimed you were religious….. Jesus teaching you to live in fear ? Boy you really have the man made teachings of the Bible upside down Bill !
Smelly Liberal Land
December 29th, 2011
10:44 am
USinUK
Of the dozens of conservative posters that once contributed here, I’m pretty sure that no one considers themself a martyr. That would imply that we are missing something.
But I see that you are still here. Every day.
Think of what you could have done with the months of time that you have spent here.
But when you believe such complete nonsense as is posted here, you need to know that you aren’t the only one, and good old Jay will eventually get rid of all vioces that don’t agree. Its the liberal way. Burn the books. Silence the opposition.
Liberalism makes a lot of sense if no one complians.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:45 am
So a young entrepreneur has an idea that will net $10 million a year. He goes to the bank to borrow the money to put his plan in place. Banker says “sure”, and agrees to it because that’s what bankers do – they find opportunities that will make their bank profits on interest.
The young entrepreneur then decides it’s too risky – with democrats in the white house and all – and decides to not start the business .
What does the banker do? He b*t@# slaps the young entrepreneur and cancels the loan – because now he knows this idiot could never run a business successfully.
md
December 29th, 2011
10:45 am
“Tells us what business are they in that are not doing so well please.”
Real Estate, Construction, restaurants, retail, landscaping, etc etc…..pick one. And even some of the big boys are still in trouble……Sears/Kmart to close 100+ stores…….
JKL2
December 29th, 2011
10:45 am
whocares- he INSISTS on calling our president “Hussein” Obama..instead of using his rightful first name?
Do you mean Barry?
bill arp
December 29th, 2011
10:45 am
Uh oh, Santorum is on the rise now, time to start digging…
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:45 am
“Free money for everyone!”
damn.
they’re handing out free money???
I must’ve missed it! how much did YOU get???
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:45 am
Normal: Brilliant, isn’t it? He gets a bunch of people EVERY TIME.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:46 am
Liberalism makes a lot of sense if no one complians.
And Conservatism largely makes no sense even IF no one complains.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:47 am
“But I see that you are still here. Every day. ”
which means that YOU’RE here … every day … since you’re able to account for my whereabouts …
is it love??? hate to break it to you, but I’m married …
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:48 am
Adam – “And Conservatism largely makes no sense even IF no one complains”
more like “Conservatism makes sense if no one thinks about it”
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:48 am
It’s a free country md…ever think those folks are in the wrong business ?
Ever think after Bush we have lost allot ?
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:48 am
And all those businesses are in trouble because of Obama and regulations?
It has nothing to do with the fact that no one is buying what they are selling? Demand has nothing to do with it?
Ladies and gentlemen, here are your future business leaders!
Paul
December 29th, 2011
10:48 am
Finn
“So a young entrepreneur has an idea that will net $10 million a year. He goes to the bank to borrow the money to put his plan in place. Banker says “sure”, and agrees to it because that’s what bankers do – they find opportunities that will make their bank profits on interest.”
Only if they get collateral to cover the loan. Bankers are not venture capitalists.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
10:48 am
“SFD – Pelosi got a two million dollar grant to study the Salt Marsh Harvest mouse (or something like that) in the SFBay area.”
two things. ok, three actually
a) I was asking Donovan to define something “kooky” not you, but that’s ok
b) that “salt marsh mouse” business had been debunked ages ago,
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/feb/13/mike-pence/no-money-stimulus-san-francisco-mice/
and
c) none of this has anything to do with Al Franken, who is often cited as some kind of radical nutter, yet any time I’ve ever heard or seen or read him, he sounds like the centrist Democrat he’s always been
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:49 am
Businesses aren’t hiring for a couple of reasons the most significant being the inability to assess exactly how much a new employee will cost over time which puts the cost of goods sold difficult to peg…the uncertainty relative to the corporate tax rates is also a chief concern…It is fair to say that demand is weak. I know several (self included) who can get more work but I won’t hire another employee if my personal tax rate is going to reduce my take home pay and result in my inflows becoming threatened by my outflows….Math is pretty clear.
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:49 am
md.ever hearing about “Saving for a rainy day ” ? That applies to business as well.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
10:49 am
Voting for a pol because the other side hates that pol is just plain ignorant.
Smelly Liberal Land
December 29th, 2011
10:50 am
USinUK
I don’t need to check to see if you are here every day. What else would you be doing? LOL!
Peter
December 29th, 2011
10:50 am
Please Stevie Ray… folks are more greedy, that is why business are not hiring.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
10:50 am
getalife: “Voting for a pol because the other side hates that pol is just plain ignorant”
Nietzsche called it ressentiment and saw it as endemic to democracy.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
10:51 am
md
“Real Estate, Construction, restaurants, retail, landscaping, etc etc…..pick one. And even some of the big boys are still in trouble……Sears/Kmart to close 100+ stores…….”
Oh no… those businesses are going to be aborted? But they’re alive! And according to the Supremes, they have rights, just like people!
Quick, start a campaign! Give those failing corporations, who are just sick, lots and lots of money transfusions! Don’t let them die!!!!!
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:51 am
Stevie, please tell us who you work for so we can dump that stock out of our portfolios.
Do us that favor, please.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:51 am
PETER,
From my Devils Dictionary (at the risk of being redundant)..RELIGION: noun, “The daughters of hope and fear teaching the ignorant the unknowable”.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:52 am
Finn: Ladies and gentlemen, here are your future business leaders!
More like your future windbags. No one who believes such a thing and acts on it will ever be successful at business.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
10:52 am
Realizing that I’m coming into the conversation a bit late, I want to make a few points.
Point 1 – Whoever said you couldn’t be hoisted by your own petard obviously hasn’t ever read about them. It was quite common, back in the day when such things were used, for the person using it to have their arm or leg or whatever caught in the ropes they used to hoist the petard against the door of the castle they were trying to enter. Pulling them up with the bomb. Therefore, they were hoisted by their own petard.
Point 2 – USinUK – You said Newt shouldn’t have “leadership” (and I’m extrapolating the other uses/derivations of the word “leader” from your statement) used in a sentence when referring to him. I disagree. For example – Newt showed great leadership in starting the line at the buffet. Or Newt was able to lead us all to the buffet. Unfortunately in both of those cases, we come out the losers as with him in the lead, we’ll all starve.
Point 3 – Karma is a very nasty and vindictive woman. Newt should know better than to mess with a woman scorned, he’s had plenty of experience in that.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:53 am
FINN,
I have my own, small and private, actuarial firm peddling actuarial opinions to Fortune employers….I don’t have outside investors and I’m not soliciting same at present.
Bill Orvis White
December 29th, 2011
10:53 am
@Peter
Big gov’t has a little history of targeting innocent folk – like that Weaver fella up in Idaho.
Amen,
Bill
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:55 am
Maybe that’s what’s wrong with all these businesses – they don’t realize you hire when demand suggests it’s time to hire. Maybe they were dumb as rocks and just hiring willy nilly cause hey, everybody else is doing it.
Any company that thinks like that should be out of business anyway.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
10:55 am
SR,
You sell opinions ?
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:56 am
PETER,
Is it truly greed or the fact that I owe nothing to anyone except my family and employees and clients? How about you just toss your cash to the winds? I presume you feel we get a good return on our annual 4/15 investment in our bankrupt government…
Would you rather my business and profits be controlled by others?
Paul
December 29th, 2011
10:56 am
“the word petard comes from the Middle French peter, to break wind, from pet expulsion of intestinal gas, from Latin peditum, from neuter of peditus, past participle of pedere, to break wind; akin to Greek bdein to break wind. (Merriam-Webster) Petard remains a Fren”
Oh, looky
ave has discovered Wikipedia!
godless heathen
December 29th, 2011
10:56 am
From the “and they say there never is anything good in the paper” department.
ajc headline 12/29/11 “Police: Ga. fast-food worker kills robbery suspect”
One less Obama voter.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
10:57 am
dB – 10:48 – slapped down like a grizzly after salmon.
well done.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:57 am
Stevie Ray isn’t hiring, and it’s the government’s fault?
Yeah, right.
JKL2
December 29th, 2011
10:57 am
USinUK- I must’ve missed it! how much did YOU get???
I’m not a Demwit. I didn’t vote for the crook from IL (my third time). Doesn’t mean it isn’t a useful campaign slogan for the “enlightened Democrat”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc&feature=related
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
10:58 am
GETALIFE,
You made a funny which is spot on:-) Good thing it’s not political, marital, or social opinions for sure. Simply tell companies how much to set aside for insurance reserves and the like. Pretty safe for society as we know it.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
10:58 am
godless heathen: One less Obama voter.
Real classy, godless.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
10:58 am
ajc headline 12/29/11 “Police: Ga. fast-food worker kills robbery suspect”
One less Obama voter.
killed by a conservative voter, no doubt.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
10:59 am
I want to sell my opinion too but Jay will not come off those Soros millions.
As my friend pf would say,
BOOKMAN !
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
December 29th, 2011
10:59 am
USA ranks #4 in fewest regulatory burdens.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-20/world-bank-ranks-u-s-regulatory-burden-very-low-the-ticker.html
I see people are bringing out the canard about Obama regulations – his are lower than Bush and Reagan’s were.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:00 am
JKL – hey, you’re the one saying free money … means you must’ve gotten some since it’s so freeance and all that …
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:01 am
FINN,
Absolutely. More business is available but I’m afraid to screw someone’s family by making a new hire when I can’t zero in on the additional uncontrollable expenses over the near term relative to tax burden, healthcare costs etcetera. Call me what you like but the worst part of running a small business is the weight of having others and their families as my responsibility…for better or worse that’s how I view it…
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:01 am
“Pretty safe for society as we know it.”
We bailed out AIG so it is not safe.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:02 am
The only business people bi$chin and moaning about government and regulations are the one’s that can’t figure out how to make a profit.
That’s how we know when to steer our investments to other companies stocks. Just look and listen for the scapegoat discussion.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:03 am
FINN,
Additionally, do you have any idea how much a credentialed actuary costs these days? It ain’t minimum wage or average starting salary for MBA graduate…much more as those stinking test are a bear..
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:04 am
getalife – are you saying that Jay is bogarding Soros $$$
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:04 am
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck: So does that mean we have TOO FEW regulations to spur business growth?
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:05 am
GETALIFE,
Bailing out any company in my book is almost a criminal use of our tax dollars. Do you have any idea how much Goldmann and others made as a result of our fearless leaders using our money to lay off idiotic bets by the likes of these?
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:05 am
btw … totally off-topic, but it’s a thought worth sharing …
if anyone has any doubt about the existence of evil in the world, all they have to do is see the Justin Bieber / Mariah Carey video for “All I Want for Christmas is You” …
sweet jeebus … surely it has to be a sign of endtimes …
godless heathen
December 29th, 2011
11:05 am
Thanks Adam. I was inspired by all the classy comments about Mr. Gingrich.
Jay
December 29th, 2011
11:05 am
I know several (self included) who can get more work but I won’t hire another employee if my personal tax rate is going to reduce my take home pay and result in my inflows becoming threatened by my outflows….Math is pretty clear.
Stevie Ray, that’s a bunch of gobbledeegook. You refuse to make more money because it might make you less money? Come on.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:05 am
That’s what some people don’t want to know about capitalism – some businesses work out and some close their doors. It’s the natural order of things. Money (both bank investment and customer dollars) go to businesses that meet a demand. Once a business stops meeting demand, they go out of business (unless they get a bailout from the fed.)
Sometimes it hurts, and that’s what people don’t want to acknowledge about capitalism.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:06 am
“getalife – are you saying that Jay is bogarding Soros $$$”
Well, the cons say Soros bribed him so I thought I would try.
If SR can sell his opinion, so can we.
Yes we can.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:06 am
I understand Stevie, your company doesn’t earn enough to warrant the hiring of more employees. It’s quite clear. No need to explain.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:07 am
GETALIFE,
I also did work for Freddie Mac but had to walk away as I couldn’t get solid data to render an opinion worth a crap….not to mention they were very slow payers…
FINN,
You have no idea what you are talking about relative to my ability to run a business..guess you concede as you are now speaketh that of which you not knoweth…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 29th, 2011
11:07 am
Hmmm… the if I make more, I take home less because of taxes argument with a claim that “Math is pretty clear”. Someone does not comprehend marginal tax rates in a progressive system.
Jay
December 29th, 2011
11:07 am
USinUK, I’d start paying getalife, but you see, there’s all this uncertainty about what the Republicans might do if they get into power and I just can’t risk taking on another mouth to feed.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:08 am
godless heathen: So rhetoric DOES inspire people to hate and violence?
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:08 am
getalife – I’ll opt for the Sesame Street business model:
“this opinion was brought to you by the Letter R … the Number 3 … and the phrase “where the hell are my pants?”
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:08 am
Jay: USinUK, I’d start paying getalife, but you see, there’s all this uncertainty about what the Republicans might do if they get into power and I just can’t risk taking on another mouth to feed.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA Awesome!
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
11:08 am
No Neal Boortz redneck: “I see people are bringing out the canard about Obama regulations – his are lower than Bush and Reagan’s were.”
Indeed, and this is strictly because in a temporal trajectory Obama finds himself further along on a downward slope moving away from the New Deal, the ‘mixed economy’, Weirdly, of course, Barack Obama (in)famously voiced his admiration for Reagan during his campaign as a transformational president, leading (cynically?) his supporters to believe that he might have in mind a similar transformation for his own administration — namely a reversal of the Reaganite transformation. In fact however Obama has been anything but transformational, continuing and reinforcing in every imaginable way the very same changes set in motion by Reagan.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:09 am
I knoweth supply and demand, Stevie. If there is no demand, there is no supply, not the other way around.
knoweth thyself.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:09 am
Jay – 11:07 – I thought it was because of all the DAMNED REGULATIONS that Obama has enacted since becoming the King of All He Surveys … I’m sure there was something in the BILLYUNS of new regs that would mandate HOW you paid getalife and the rest of us …
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:09 am
“Bailing out any company in my book is almost a criminal use of our tax dollars. Do you have any idea how much Goldmann and others made as a result of our fearless leaders using our money to lay off idiotic bets by the likes of these?”
It just socializing their losses and w and paulson engineered the bailouts.
Your opinion here is not worth a penny because it is just plain wrong.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:10 am
FINN,
Am I greedy and incapable of making a profit? Is my lack of profits related to my greed or my greed a result of my profits? Just cause I run a profitable ship for 20 years or so, does that mean I should go hire for the sake of pleasing those who are running out of other peoples money to spend?
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
December 29th, 2011
11:11 am
The chatter from the AM radio liars would lead one to believe no one is allowed to drill here.
The fact is, under Obama, we will be the #1 crude oil producer in the world by 2016. Drilling is up over 2x under Obama.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:11 am
Well, I for one am glad some people aren’t hiring – what with the impending layoffs that could happen.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:11 am
USinUK,
willard said he would put advertising on Big Bird.
No joke.
godless heathen
December 29th, 2011
11:12 am
Adam, Don’t know about rhetoric, but armed robbery does.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
11:12 am
Stevie just needs to hire some H1b’s, half the pay, no benefits then he could make millions
Since all those US workers are greedy.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:13 am
Just cause I run a profitable ship for 20 years or so, does that mean I should go hire for the sake of pleasing those who are running out of other peoples money to spend?
I see the whole “demand leads to hiring” argument is lost on you. When did I call you greedy?
Paul
December 29th, 2011
11:14 am
USinUK
“and the phrase “where the hell are my pants?””
Sesame Street’s ripping off Newt’s slogans?
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:14 am
“willard said he would put advertising on Big Bird.”
post no bills.
get it?
bills?
he’s a bird!
oh, i kill me.
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:14 am
JAY,
Thats funny. Maybe the GOP would press for another TARP or STIMULUS to make sure those campaign funds keep flowing? Oppps, I get so confused between the two…
I can’t figure out why a RTC facility that worked well with S&L crisis was not the investment of choice over giving the banks all that cash they won’t put to work? So much for our interests eh??
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:15 am
Paul – 11:14 – dammit, man … now, I have an image of Newt saying Tickle Me Elmo …
(shuddering)
godless heathen
December 29th, 2011
11:16 am
“The fact is, under Obama, we will be the #1 crude oil producer in the world by 2016.”
? Citation, please.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:16 am
“there’s all this uncertainty about what the Republicans might do if they get into power and I just can’t risk taking on another mouth to feed.”
I would hedge on another collapse if they win.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:16 am
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck: Drilling is up over 2x under Obama.
And I, for one, am not happy about this. Especially considering a rig could blow up again and there is NOTHING NEW to prevent such an occurrence.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
11:18 am
USinUK
Never has a blog fallen so far, so fast.
And I’m cracking up right along with you!
godless heathen
December 29th, 2011
11:18 am
The US is rattling the sword at Iran for threatening the closing of the Strait of Hormuz. Blood for Oil anyone?
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
December 29th, 2011
11:18 am
“Hedge funds have been buying housing-related investments, betting on a rebound. Bulls have been burned in the past, but optimistic investors are pointing to pent-up demand and suggest a housing bottom may be in sight.” (WSJ)
If the rebound is in 2012 the election will be an Obama landslide
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:18 am
I don’t think I will go back to work next week. I could be laid off in the future so why should I prolong the inevitable?
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:18 am
FINN,
May have got greedy comment confused with another less than admiring commentator. Since econ 101 (macro and micro) are not lost on either of us, lets get past that…if my margins are 20% after all is said and done and I remain competitive, tell me how I’m going to justify new hires if there exists a possibility that the cost of same may go up 20% plus in coming years and I can’t increase my billings by the same amount? Citing traditional simplistic economic theory is one thing but simple math is often a more telling indicator…Not sure you want to debate numbers with an actuary but knock yourself out.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
11:19 am
Uh Oh,
I do believe Stevie’s neck hairs are standing at attention. Me thinks he doth not like being called out.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:19 am
Big Bird is brought to you by SR’s opinion.
kayaker 71
December 29th, 2011
11:19 am
Finn, 11:05,
And it’s that same system that has sustained his country for the last 200 or more years. It has made us who we are, the most viable, thriving economy in the entire world. But your boy in the WH isn’t too fond of a free market economy, or so it would appear. And government running a business? We have seen how that works with Government Motors, the Postal Service, Amtrak and various others that government couldn’t keep their hands off of. So now we translate all of this into a government run system that sets up rules under which they can operate, tells them what and how much to produce and limits their profits based on the “needs of others”. Yeah, that’s what made this country the great country that it is….. no doubt about it. But it creates a hell-of-a voter base, now don’t it?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:20 am
If the rebound is in 2012 the election will be an Obama landslide
No it won’t. He’ll only get a slight bump. This idea that it’s all about the economy and NOTHING ELSE is going to bite the GOP in the ass.
Kamchak
December 29th, 2011
11:20 am
Oooooh, the econ101 card!
Cool beans!
Language: A Key Mechanism of Control | Blog for Democracy
December 29th, 2011
11:20 am
[...] post by Jay Bookman pointing out that Newt is currently being hoisted by his own petard in Iowa: After all, his fellow Republicans are merely using what someone [Newt] once called “contrasting [...]
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
11:21 am
I think right now, our economy running around in a giant circle chasing its own tail. Companies aren’t hiring cause they don’t have the demand to support new employees (contrary to what many would have you believe), then those companies, because they’re not making extra money aren’t buying from other companies, who then aren’t hiring cause they don’t have the extra demand to support new employees. Then those companies aren’t buying from others, and they’re not buying from others, and eventually, you get back to the guy not buying from the first company who wasn’t hiring cause of lack of demand. Unfortunately (and those of you who know my views will understand how much it took for me to get here) the only solution I see is the government infusing more money into the economy someway some how. I say this cause the government is the only entity that typically buys without demand. Possibly because they’re the only entity that can legally take your money from you whether you want their product or not at the threat of jail, so they have a pretty guaranteed revenue stream, but I digress. Oh, and that is my circular logic for today, and I’m sorry for anyone who becomes confused by it, I might have possibly confused myself a bit while writing it.
Jack
December 29th, 2011
11:21 am
It’s likely that Bookman has already written his hit on Romney column. He’s just like other liberal writers; instead of promoting Obama, he finds fault with all GOP candidates.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:21 am
Stevie: What evidence do you have that your costs will go up 20%?
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:22 am
COMMON SENSE,
I’ve looking into hiring on the basis you suggest, unfortunately it’s a non-starter…I’ve had some limited experience with independent contractors but they are risky in terms of business relationships…good thought though….damn health insurance is expensive…I’ve thought about simply paying the fine per OBAMACARE when it enacts but passing the costs to my employees will result in mutiny..
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:23 am
(ir)Rational: Unfortunately (and those of you who know my views will understand how much it took for me to get here) the only solution I see is the government infusing more money into the economy someway some how.
This is the rational conclusion MOST come to after looking at the problem seriously. And yet, we hear visceral cries of “KEYNESIAN ECONOMICS DOESN’T WORK!!!!”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 29th, 2011
11:23 am
Does anyone ever take Econ 102 or Advance Econ?
md
December 29th, 2011
11:23 am
“And all those businesses are in trouble because of Obama and regulations?
It has nothing to do with the fact that no one is buying what they are selling? Demand has nothing to do with it?”
That is the million dollar question……
I posted in response to corps sitting on big bucks……look behind the curtain…..it isn’t because they are growing/expanding/etc……many are making profits because they slashed expenses (employees) and are requiring those that remain to work 70/80 hour weeks….or fear losing their jobs. That is why some are sitting on big profits…..kind of kills the talking point.
And that doesn’t change the fact that the majority of corps are NOT sitting on record profits…..as mom and pop are the majority and are hanging on by their teeth. The next few months will be a big indicator……..seasonal help goes back on the street and folks clamp down to pay for Christmas until they get their windfall “refunds”.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:24 am
tell me how I’m going to justify new hires if there exists a possibility that the cost of same may go up 20% plus in coming years and I can’t increase my billings by the same amount?
You can’t win if you don’t play. So if you don’t hire the personnel, you will never know, will you? I bet if you interview someone today and tell them there is no guarantee that they will be employed by you one or two years down the road, they probably wouldn’t bat an eye lash. It’s kind of a give, know what I mean?
But, since you are doing everyone a favor by not hiring them….
RB from Gwinnett
December 29th, 2011
11:24 am
Sucks to be stuck defending Obama doesn’t it Jay?!! Keep tearing down everybody else, though, and maybe you can get all the other candidates to look bad enough that Obama doesn’t look quite as imcompetent as he is by comparison. If your D voters are dumb enough, that might just work. Again.
From the AJC… “Police in Georgia say a fast-food worker grabbed his gun and shot and killed a man suspected of robbing the restaurant near Savannah.”
Why is it the fast food worker isn’t given the “suspected of” or “alleged” qualifier like the thief is? If the dead guys disn’t rob the place, wouldn’t he be an “alleged” ciminal too?
Lord Help Us
December 29th, 2011
11:24 am
Is it just me or does it seem downright crazy that the ‘uncertainty’ card gets thrown at Obama when the worst ‘uncertainty’ (eg. the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression) happened while GWB was President…
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:25 am
md: I posted in response to corps sitting on big bucks……look behind the curtain…..it isn’t because they are growing/expanding/etc……many are making profits because they slashed expenses (employees) and are requiring those that remain to work 70/80 hour weeks….or fear losing their jobs. That is why some are sitting on big profits…..kind of kills the talking point.
This would seem to indicate they did not need to slash their workforce, and they could start hiring people back now, right?
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:25 am
“instead of promoting Obama, he finds fault with all GOP candidates.”
otherwise known as “shooting fish in a barrel”
md
December 29th, 2011
11:25 am
“Oh no… those businesses are going to be aborted? But they’re alive! And according to the Supremes, they have rights, just like people! ”
Reaffirms my post about being a smart ass………………join the club.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
11:25 am
USinUK @ 11:15 – That’s just wrong. I feel like I need a bath now.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:26 am
That is why some are sitting on big profits…..kind of kills the talking point.
Not when you follow a “some” statement. LOL
Normal
December 29th, 2011
11:26 am
http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur
larry
December 29th, 2011
11:26 am
Paul
December 29th, 2011
10:12 am
It depends on where those jobs are located. One case in point, a factory in Gaffeney SC was closed down and 150 jobs were lost because of another merger with another company. When the company decided to expand, instead of re-opening the plant in SC, they opened one in Vietnam.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:26 am
RB: Why is it the fast food worker isn’t given the “suspected of” or “alleged” qualifier like the thief is? If the dead guys disn’t rob the place, wouldn’t he be an “alleged” ciminal too?
First of all, this has absolutely nothing to do with Obama, so nice link-up from nowhere in your post.
Second, could it be that the police say that’s what happened because the fast food worker admitted as such?
Stevie Ray
December 29th, 2011
11:28 am
ADAM,
Good question. The trend alone in healthcare is between 5 and 10% annual clip no matter how I adjust deductibles or co-pays. No matter what is said, I have no confidence that my costs will increase at a higher rate under OBAMACARE as no government program in the history of government will pay for itself as advertised (see 61 trillion in unfunded Medicare and SS) If my tax rate reverts to pre Bush cuts, those two alone will easily cover the 20%.
I’m a very small business so the math is easy….not sure about mega-employers..
carlosgvv
December 29th, 2011
11:28 am
The fact that Newt has come this far and may by in this race for the duration only shows how utterly sad the state of American politics has become. Think of Lincoln, FDR, IKE, JFK and then think of Gingrich. Get the picture? While the word karma may come to mind for some, the word hypocrisy seems more applicable. Newt’s words and behavior show a complete lack of class and character. Just what you would expect in today’s dumbed down America.
mm
December 29th, 2011
11:28 am
“Bailing out any company in my book is almost a criminal use of our tax dollars. ”
So when are the righties going to quit giving billions to the oil companies?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:29 am
Stevie: I am not sure I read your post right. You seem to be saying your costs would go up regardless of the ACA.
md
December 29th, 2011
11:30 am
“If the rebound is in 2012 the election will be an Obama landslide”
http://abcnewsradioonline.com/business-news/economists-predict-housing-rebound-to-be-a-year-away.html
“If” is the biggest word in the English language……..
Curtis Rivers
December 29th, 2011
11:30 am
Newt’s a bit large, so I think “Hippo-crit” should be added to the list.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
11:31 am
Adam – It took me a while to come to that conclusion, but that’s because I distrust completely (and probably will always) the idea that the government should be allowed to pick the winners and losers in anything. On the other hand, give it a few years, and the construction industry will turn itself around. All those houses that were built over the last 15 or so years, in those wonderful looking subdivisions all over the US will start falling apart, and will have to be either repaired or rebuilt. Or the people that lived in them will have to move to apartments and more of those will have to be built. So, the construction industry will come back, its just a matter of time.
Keep – It wasn’t required for my major, so I didn’t.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:33 am
Stevie – “tell me how I’m going to justify new hires if there exists a possibility that the cost of same may go up 20% plus in coming years and I can’t increase my billings by the same amount?”
don’t take this the wrong way (since we’re enjoying canapes in the kitchen and having a civil conversation) … but, could you be more vague???
“coming years” – 1 ? 2 ? 10 ?
and if you’re bringing on new people, that’s to handle an increase in business – which, presumably, will continue to increase … so, who’s to say you won’t be able to cover their costs, with or without the increase in fees???
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:33 am
Big Bird is brought to you by KFC.
Finger licking good.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:34 am
All you Republicans need to quit your job so you don’t have to pay taxes. We liberals will gladly work your jobs so we can pay taxes.
Everyone will be happy, right?
md
December 29th, 2011
11:35 am
“This would seem to indicate they did not need to slash their workforce, and they could start hiring people back now, right?”
I’d say more like operating capital during iffy times…………..
Billy
December 29th, 2011
11:35 am
LOL, I love all the leftist comments on here. What has PBO done? Record deficits, billion dollar stimulus that ran up debt while accomplishing nothing, and a health care law that no small business can afford.
When’s the economy going to take off? In Biden’s second term?
Liberalism never works, never will work. After the Soviet experiment, seems like people would learn from history, but they don’t. Plus all the anti-religious folks think they’re going to be blessed one day, after a lifetime of running interference against believers. Please hold your breathe for that one…
Yep, you Dims have all the answers. Where do I sign up?
Any of the GOP candidates are far from “clowns,” because they are not PBO, the mother of all clowns. Any Republican currently running would be better than any Dim you could name. To condemn people who know, buy the dolts who have no clue, (Dims, for those of you not taking notes), is a laugh a minute. If you guys can’t figure out what’s right and what isn’t, you can always be comedy writers.
Any of you Einsteins that think that the Dims are better at running the economy are in for a shock. But if you like standing in breadlines, by all means lets keep on the current course…
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:35 am
(ir)Rational: It took me a while to come to that conclusion, but that’s because I distrust completely (and probably will always) the idea that the government should be allowed to pick the winners and losers in anything.
I am not convinced that stimulus spending is really picking a winner or loser. A targeted no-strings bailout certainly does, but that is different.
Alabama Communist
December 29th, 2011
11:36 am
More Breaking News On Newt hotfooted it out of Iowa……..A Source within the Newt Campaign said today ” That Newt will never come back to Iowa unless the State Government surrenders to him”
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:37 am
“Any of you Einsteins that think that the Dims are better at running the economy are in for a shock.”
someone seems to have been in a coma during the Bush years …
md
December 29th, 2011
11:37 am
“Not when you follow a “some” statement. LOL”
Except the standard talking point omits the word “some”….just as was done in the post I was responding to.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
11:37 am
getalife – That would be one big chicken leg. Better get grilled though, you don’t want all the calories.
Finn – I won’t be happy. I’ll be hungry, and cold.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:37 am
Finn McCool: All you Republicans need to quit your job so you don’t have to pay taxes. We liberals will gladly work your jobs so we can pay taxes.
And then you can all be part of the dependent class that you have so much ENVY for.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:38 am
Biily,
It collapsed on w’s watch so to expect a different result from your failed corrupt party is the definition of insanity.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
11:39 am
Finn – dammit man make up your mind!
One minute you say you aren’t going back to work to just get laid off and the next you are offering to work for te republicans (if they quit work).
You’re confusing me
mm
December 29th, 2011
11:40 am
I’m glad I don’t work for or invest in the businesses these wingnuts on this blog claim to own. All of them claim they can’t keep employees or they can’t make a profit. That’s shocking considering most of the corporations in this country have recorded record profits for the last 3 years.
My wife and I have business investments that have made quite a bit of money over the last 3 years. I think the righties are just partisan hacks that repeat what they hear from their heros on Fox News and Rush the Magnificent.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
11:40 am
md
“Reaffirms my post about being a smart ass………………join the club.”
At least I know how to answer questions.
larry
Sure. I willl say when I first heard about mergers and acquisitions companies I was steamed. Read a bit, realized there’s more to the story.
USinUK
Just when you thought it couldn’t fall any further, guess who comes up with
“Big Bird is brought to you by KFC.
Finger licking good.”
I”m hungry….
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
11:40 am
Republicans sure are a testy bunch. You might think that they would be rallying around a favorite candidate by now and sharing their reasons for their support of said candidate. I’m beginning to think that they don’t like any of their options. Well, have any of you considwered voting for Obama. It’s okay, doncha know. You can vote for a winner, for a change.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:41 am
Sorry Common. I stand corrected. Some liberals will take those jobs given up by the Republicans – so that they may eventually get laid off. And that, to use an md word, is a FACT.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:41 am
mm: I’m glad I don’t work for or invest in the businesses these wingnuts on this blog claim to own. All of them claim they can’t keep employees or they can’t make a profit.
Amen. Either 1) It isn’t really that bad, or 2) It is, and their business is failing because they don’t know how to run it.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
11:41 am
“I hold it to be the inalienable right of anybody to go to hell in his own way.”
Robert Frost
Now THAT ought to be in the Bill Of Rights!
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
11:42 am
Adam – To my understanding, the stimulus mostly just advanced the timeline of projects that were already in the works. While this may have been a good thing in the short term, I feel like it could have been better spent doing some research on new projects and advancing projects that were long-shots at best. My point being, if these projects were already in the works, it may have stimulated the construction companies that built the roads (I realize, of course that there were other than construction projects) and bridges, but if they were already designed, it cut out the engineers and architects that would have been involved had it been a previously un-thought-of project.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:42 am
Republicans sure are a testy bunch.
and sweaty and smelly.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
11:43 am
mm,
That’s Rush the malignant
getalife
December 29th, 2011
11:44 am
“and sweaty and smelly.”
ron paul told them to shave and stay away from the booze.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:44 am
Paul – 11:40 – I saw that, too … just picturing The Colonel’s face when he went to pluck THAT!!!
RB from Gwinnett
December 29th, 2011
11:44 am
mm….”I’m glad I don’t work for or invest in the businesses these wingnuts on this blog claim to own. ”
I don’t see that being a problem for you.
Ever.
josef
December 29th, 2011
11:44 am
Okay, late to the playground…catch me up…what are the issues of the malcontent today?
On TOPIC
Okay, but he’s still like jock-itch, he’ll be back. But, i missed my bet. I thought it’d be flay Santorum Day here…
JAY
SE
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:45 am
Well, let’s definitely not stimulate anything that might get some of these Georgia pot holes filled in. Wouldn’t want to throw good money after bad money, ya know?
Alphare
December 29th, 2011
11:45 am
Bill Orvis White,
are you blaming Obama for your personal failing?
you definitely sound like something.
roughrider
December 29th, 2011
11:46 am
Sounds like some of the republican posters on here still have the duct tape and plastic over their windows and doors.Are you guys still checking the terror alert chart before leaving home?
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:46 am
“ut, i missed my bet. I thought it’d be flay Santorum Day here…”
Little Ricky has been making an appearance here and there …
mostly about him coming from behind …
mm
December 29th, 2011
11:47 am
Billy @ 11:35,
Your post exhibits the total lack of honesty and aptitude that the republican party and their voters exhibit on a daily basis.
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
11:48 am
Jay do despise the newtster he do.
Strange thing though is that I thought all the liberals were in full support of Newt winning the GOP nomination with the idea that Obama would fare better against Newt than any other GOP nominee. Romney is the guy that Obama fears due to the perception that Romney is a moderate. And Romney is the beneficiary of Newt getting slammed.
moonbat betty
December 29th, 2011
11:48 am
Has the collector’s edition of the Newt Chia Pet been released yet?
kayaker 71
December 29th, 2011
11:48 am
Steve Jobs, Apple Computer…… Bill Gates, Microsoft….. Gordon Moore, Intel…… Larry Page, Google….. Mark Zukerberg, Facebook. All of these people started from very meager beginnings, some quit college, some never went to college. They started with an idea, some in their own garage, and morphed an idea into things that have shaped the very world we live in….. many that we could not imagine ourselves without. Our free market system allowed this to happen. Think that they could have accomplished this in any other country except the USA?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:49 am
(ir)Rational: I think that a focus entirely on Construction projects wasn’t the absolute best idea, but it’s not picking winners and losers. Also, the American Jobs Act has more than just infrastructure, and I think it would work way better. And getting people to work boosts the economy because people spend their money. That last sentence is probably redundant, but still.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:49 am
what are the issues of the malcontent today?
Conservatives want to blame their inability to run a company profitably on the government. And the rest of us aren’t buying that hoohaw.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
11:49 am
USinUK – You know that can’t be right, good Republicans only go missionary.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:50 am
Think that they could have accomplished this in any other country except the USA?
Yes.
THBAEOSATSQ
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
11:50 am
josef,
I just tuned in myself. You aint missing much. Just another newt bashing. Libs are having a heyday and I don’t think cons care much about Newt getting a bashing.
josef
December 29th, 2011
11:50 am
USinUK
“…mostly about him coming from behind …”
Oh, the lines…
moonbat betty
December 29th, 2011
11:51 am
why do liberals insist on using their bidets as water fountains?
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:51 am
Romney is the guy that Obama fears due to the perception that Romney is a moderate
Sends shivers down the spine, don’t he!
Paul
December 29th, 2011
11:51 am
md
Note for you downstairs.
Your last post to me there was a big-time, evading failure.
mm
December 29th, 2011
11:51 am
RB,
“I don’t see that being a problem for you.
Ever.”
Everytime you post you prove why you can’t keep employees. I can only assume your employees leave to find better pay than minimum wage.
td
December 29th, 2011
11:53 am
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:16 am
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck: Drilling is up over 2x under Obama.
And I, for one, am not happy about this. Especially considering a rig could blow up again and there is NOTHING NEW to prevent such an occurrence
I have been seeing this information for the past few months posted by libs and had to do a little reserch to see if it was actually true of just another myth being floated because it did not make sense Gas prices would have rose so high during the Obama administration. Here is the information I have found: We are up in the last two years but not over our production level 20 years ago.
year production change
1980 8,597.00 NA
1981 8,572.00 -0.29 %
1982 8,649.00 0.90 %
1983 8,688.00 0.45 %
1984 8,879.00 2.20 %
1985 8,971.00 1.04 %
1986 8,680.00 -3.24 %
1987 8,349.14 -3.81 %
1988 8,140.00 -2.50 %
1989 7,613.00 -6.47 %
1990 7,355.31 -3.38 %
1991 7,416.55 0.83 %
1992 7,171.12 -3.31 %
1993 6,846.67 -4.52 %
1994 6,661.58 -2.70 %
1995 6,559.64 -1.53 %
1996 6,464.52 -1.45 %
1997 6,451.59 -0.20 %
1998 6,251.83 -3.10 %
1999 5,881.46 -5.92 %
2000 5,821.60 -1.02 %
2001 5,801.40 -0.35 %
2002 5,745.55 -0.96 %
2003 5,680.70 -1.13 %
2004 5,418.85 -4.61 %
2005 5,178.38 -4.44 %
2006 5,102.08 -1.47 %
2007 5,064.25 -0.74 %
2008 4,950.32 -2.25 %
2009 5,360.54 8.29 %
2010 5,511.93 2.82 %
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josef
December 29th, 2011
11:53 am
Finn…
Sounds about par for the course…
Thulsa
You know not to get me started on that expletive deleted jackass…
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
11:53 am
“Think that they could have accomplished this in any other country except the USA?”- kayaker
Probably not. But you’ll have a hard time convincing the America is great because of its gubment crowd.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
11:53 am
Adam – I was meaning more towards the bailouts with the picking winners and losers. A lot of what the stimulus did (that I could tell) was just either allow the federal government to pay completely for something they were already going to pay for partially, or speed up the time frame that the states got the money they were already applying for. I think if we expand the definition of “infrastructure” we could stimulate the entire economy. To a person like myself, infrastructure isn’t just roads and bridges, it is the post office, community schools, parks and all the other things that make neighborhoods desirable/livable. Realizing of course that business owners have to be responsible for the grocery store, hardware store and things of that nature.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:53 am
Newt has to win. Millions of poor children are counting on Newt to put them to work cleaning toilets. There is a God!
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:54 am
“Think that they could have accomplished this in any other country except the USA?”
um.
yes.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
11:54 am
josef
Oh, the responses to Newt from the Right have been along the lines of “but…. Obama.”
Some people think Orvis White is serious.
getalife’s in rare form. He and USinUK are doing a tag-team comedy routine.
and as far as “oh, the lines….” yeah, but I resisted the urge to even go that far!
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:54 am
td: Wow. Why was Bush so anti-oil?
Kamchak
December 29th, 2011
11:54 am
I can only assume your employees leave to find better pay than minimum wage.
I think that the amount becomes a non-issue. Life is too short to spend +8 hrs. a day in such proximity to a perpetual pouty-puss.
Scapegoat
December 29th, 2011
11:54 am
That’s how we know when to steer our investments to other companies stocks. Just look and listen for the scapegoat discussion.
Don’t blame me because it has nothing to do with me at all. People just blame me because they took my horns and know I can’t butt their asses back.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
11:54 am
The right to be heard does not include the right to be taken seriously. (Quote by – Hubert H. Humphrey)
Kind of sums up B. O. W…..
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:55 am
josef – “Oh, the lines…
”
yeah, he probably did those, too …
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
11:55 am
You know that can’t be right, good Republicans only go missionary.
Man!
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
11:55 am
josef,
Newt is a reasonable, honorable man who will restore this country to its former greatness. And he’s one helluva historian.
Ya got your primer josef. Now run with it!
Ross Perot
December 29th, 2011
11:56 am
“Any of you Einsteins that think that the Dims are better at running the economy are in for a shock.”
Adding 17 million illegals to the legal work-force (amnesty), higher taxes on businesses, higher mandated government health insurance on businesses and self-employed people are sure fire dumbocrat ideas to get the current citizens back to work and the economy rolling again!
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
11:58 am
“honorable man”
evidently, we have very different definitions of the word “honorable”
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
11:59 am
We’re selling weapons to Iraq? Might want to rethink that plan.
josef
December 29th, 2011
11:59 am
PAUL
I guess the only ones I really should go back and read are the Bill ones, eh? That man is a fr-kken genius! And he just keeps rolling them in from both sides…amazing!
and getalife and USinUK tagteaming…that sounds rich…
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
11:59 am
Amazing how with everything else that has been said today, Thulsa is buying the screen cleaner.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
12:00 pm
higher mandated government health insurance on businesses
whoa, wait a minute–did they sneak in a strong public option after all? Where can my business get some of that “government health insurance” you speak of, so we can drop the suck-ass private insurer we’ve got?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:01 pm
LUNCH
josef
December 29th, 2011
12:01 pm
Thulsa…
Heh, heh! I wanna fry Santorum now…not as spectacular an ass, but certainly in the alien invaders category…
td
December 29th, 2011
12:01 pm
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
11:48 am
Jay do despise the newtster he do.
Strange thing though is that I thought all the liberals were in full support of Newt winning the GOP nomination with the idea that Obama would fare better against Newt than any other GOP nominee. Romney is the guy that Obama fears due to the perception that Romney is a moderate. And Romney is the beneficiary of Newt getting slammed.
This is a another myth the libs are putting out. They are scared to death of Newt. They know the General public understands that Obama does not know anything about the economy and how to fix it and Newt would show that he also knows very little about government and the way it functions. If Newt won the nomination then they would have no talking points except for character and they themselves ruined a character fight with Clinton.
Scapegoat
December 29th, 2011
12:01 pm
Is it just me or does it seem downright crazy that the ‘uncertainty’ card gets thrown at Obama when the worst ‘uncertainty’ (eg. the worst economic collapse since the Great Depression) happened while GWB was President…
Obama’s my first cousin on my dad’s side. That’s why.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
12:02 pm
Billy: “Liberalism never works, never will work”
Turn off the Limbaugh son. Work on learning to think some.
The New Deal regime in this country — together with the ‘mixed’ economies of Western Europe forming perhaps the greatest period of prosperity and middle class prosperity the world has ever seen — most certainly did work.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
12:04 pm
off-topic, but you know me … if it’s news about sharks, I gotta share …
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-16357974
and this one has KILLER WHALES in it, too!!!
josef
December 29th, 2011
12:05 pm
BILL
So, what’s on the hook for redeeming the secular progressives today?
Normal
December 29th, 2011
12:05 pm
“I never dared to be radical when young for fear it would make me conservative when old.”
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
12:05 pm
Welcome @ 12.02, you have to remember–to some, “liberalism” is basically defined as “stuff I don’t like”, and “liberals” are simply “people I don’t like.”
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
12:05 pm
USinUK,
That “honorable” bit is just part of my recipe to set josef off. What you do is you add newt, add some praise of him, and then watch josef get started and go ballistic. josef is newt’s biggest anti-fan. josef and Newt’s 1st wife that is.
td
December 29th, 2011
12:06 pm
Adam
December 29th, 2011
11:54 am
td: Wow. Why was Bush so anti-oil?
One has to wonder if it had something to do with the middle east was so scared of Bush that they decided to produce more oil and keep the prices down as a payoff for him not removing them from power? The real question is why has not Obama carried out a similar foregin policy or does he not care what it cost us at the pumps?
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
12:06 pm
“They are scared to death of Newt. ”
heehee …
yep. you’ve got us bang to rights.
you keep thinking that and nominate his pasty white butt so you can see just how sceeeeered we are!!!
Dusty
December 29th, 2011
12:06 pm
Well, I see Bookman has discarded his role as journalist and come forward as rabble rouser.
Some had hoped that the AJC might notice. They don’t want to. Sensational tripe usually pays. The Enquirer is still in business.
Those of us who seriously cherish American values will be reading elsewhere. Too much trash here. Very little substance.
But that defines the Democratic Party at the moment so let us not be surprised at juvenile behavior or bigoted thought. America suffers in this case. Free speech is afforded to all whether they deserve it or cherish it. Too bad some defile the giver for their gift.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
12:08 pm
“Liberalism never works, never will work”
As a Liberal, I think I know why…
“A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel.”
Mr. Snarky
December 29th, 2011
12:08 pm
Newt should just look at the bright side. He can put “polled as front runner in 2012 Repub nomination campaign/book tour for two weeks” on his resume. Should help him boost his lobbying fees.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:08 pm
td: This is a another myth the libs are putting out. They are scared to death of Newt. They know the General public understands that Obama does not know anything about the economy and how to fix it and Newt would show that he also knows very little about government and the way it functions.
That was good for a laugh. Thanks.
josef
December 29th, 2011
12:08 pm
td
” They are scared to death of Newt”
You got that right, but not for the reasons you might think…at least in my case.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
12:09 pm
One has to wonder if it had something to do with the middle east was so scared of Bush that they decided to produce more oil and keep the prices down as a payoff for him not removing them from power?
by some chance did you forget the summer of 2008 when, I’m pretty sure, the Bush administration was still open for business?
http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:09 pm
USinUK – Why would you post such a horrible story about those poor sharks? What did they do to deserve to be so brutally attacked. And then the people send in a dog after the sharks too. That is just wrong.
Corey
December 29th, 2011
12:09 pm
@0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
9:28 am
Your ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) is on full display again. This is about Newt. You cannot defend him so you attack the POTUS. Yes, I would say that is a clear characteristic of ODS. Get help. Find the nearest twelve step program to help you cope with ODS.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
12:09 pm
Dusty,
Are you into satire too?
Kamchak
December 29th, 2011
12:10 pm
They are scared to death of Newt.
Not this crap again.
USinUK
December 29th, 2011
12:11 pm
(ir) – sorry … killer whales vs. sharks … it’s a real life Godzilla vs. Mothra – too cool not to share
Mr. Snarky
December 29th, 2011
12:11 pm
“Too much trash here. Very little substance.”
Have you been watching the debates? Jay’s blog is like a TED conference in comparison.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
12:11 pm
Big Bird is brought to you buy Chick- fil- a.
Eat mor chickin.
GM
December 29th, 2011
12:13 pm
Dusty
I guess Newt with his 3 ex wifes and mistress really defines American values, what planet are you rep conservatives from? I know the planet of hypocrites, if you what to see morales and values you do not have any in the front runners of your party.
Please when will Mitt release his tax returns? so the idiots of the middle class conservatives can see the millions of dollars he has raked in on their backs, if you want to see family and morlas vaules President Obama leads these hypocrites hands down””’
Ross Perot
December 29th, 2011
12:13 pm
whoa, wait a minute–did they sneak in a strong public option after all? Where can my business get some of that “government health insurance” you speak of, so we can drop the suck-ass private insurer we’ve got?
You don’t think this will be back in with a dem controlled house? Or the coverage for illegals that was also taken out? Sheep
josef
December 29th, 2011
12:13 pm
DUSTY
“Too much trash here. Very little substance.”
Welcome back, prodigal daughter.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
12:13 pm
decibels: “Welcome @ 12.02, you have to remember–to some, “liberalism” is basically defined as “stuff I don’t like”, and “liberals” are simply “people I don’t like.”
Amen. In fact, in future history books the era that began with the election of Ronald Reagan — which has reached its moment of truth in the aftermath of the great crash of 2007-8, the moment where it has to play for all the marbles or be rejected utterly — should be dubbed “The Era of Reaction”, where liberalism was the term that gathered together all those things the masses were being asked to reject. And reject they did, in great numbers – slowly asphyxiated themselves in the process.
pb
December 29th, 2011
12:14 pm
Newt is a big boy now in politics. If can’t take the criticism, needs to get in different line of work. Like Bookman, I find it amusing that Newt is being beaten by using his own tactics. As they say, karma is a B*tch.
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
12:14 pm
USinUK,
I gotta watch anything with sharks too. I’ve seen video twice of great whites being savaged and eaten by orcas. One was of 2 orcas killing and devouring a great white off of New Zealand or Australia and another was a discovery channel special on great whites hunting seals off of the falleron islands. A group of orcas came in led by a large female named UB380 or something and of course she killed and ate the liver of a large great white. And as the narrator said “Curiously the other 12-15 great whites who regularly hunt the seals have left the area.” If you google orcas killing great whites you can probably pull up those 2 videos.
Finn McCool
December 29th, 2011
12:15 pm
The real question is why has not Obama carried out a similar foregin policy or does he not care what it cost us at the pumps?
so, td comes up with a theory with no basis in fact and then wants to propose we look for answers to question that that theory purports.
RB from Gwinnett
December 29th, 2011
12:16 pm
“Everytime you post you prove why you can’t keep employees. I can only assume your employees leave to find better pay than minimum wage.”
You know what they say about you when you ASSume…
As I said before (you know, the part of the story you don’t want to remember because it doesn’t fill in one of your cutesie little bumper sticker posts), I have only had 1 employee leave me for a new job in over 20 years of managing people. I’ve helped quite a few who can’t seem to show up on time or have various other performance issues out the door.
But ya’ll go on only listening to half the story and repeating it like you’re cute. Half the story seems to be all your simple minds are capable of anyway.
Maybe Jay can chime in here and tell you all what the restaurant owner told him is the reason he hires illegals vs. our “less fortunate”. How ’bout it Jay?
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
12:16 pm
Those of us who seriously cherish American values will be reading elsewhere.
That is, after we get finished delivering ourselves of one more gem of moral profundity. After all, we’re innocent of the trashing that’s going on, we pure souls.
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
12:16 pm
jack – ” instead of promoting Obama, he finds fault with all GOP candidates.”
What a coincidence, so does the GOP.
Kamchak
December 29th, 2011
12:16 pm
so, td comes up with a theory with no basis in fact and then wants to propose we look for answers to question that that theory purports.
AKA — rabbit hole.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:18 pm
You don’t think this will be back in with a dem controlled house? Or the coverage for illegals that was also taken out? Sheep
Without 60 votes in the Senate, no way. And that has to come from 61-65 Democrats being in office, with maybe a couple of independents, since some of them are ConservaDems and are trying in vain to stave off “liberal bias” attacks.
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
December 29th, 2011
12:18 pm
http://blog.mises.org/16107/bushs-huge-budget-numbers-blamed-on-obama/
Bush’s Huge Budget Numbers Blamed on Obama
(For the Austrians)
td
December 29th, 2011
12:19 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
12:02 pm
Billy: “Liberalism never works, never will work”
Turn off the Limbaugh son. Work on learning to think some.
The New Deal regime in this country — together with the ‘mixed’ economies of Western Europe forming perhaps the greatest period of prosperity and middle class prosperity the world has ever seen — most certainly did work.
And all this prosperity was based on what? Borrowing money? What is happening now since all the money has run out?
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
12:19 pm
You don’t think this will be back in with a dem controlled house?
well given that the dems controlled the house when the ACA was debated and passed, and it was the Senate that took out the public option… I have no idea what point you’re trying to make, actually.
I guess you think that a government run health insurance program for people who don’t currently qualify for Medicare or Medicaid would be a bad thing. But the point is, such a program didn’t make it into the ACA, so what, exactly, was your point?
(and for what it’s worth, a single-payer insurance program akin to what they have in Canada is probably the best thing America could do for its business community.)
and what the heck, long as I’m having a bit of fun here:
Or the coverage for illegals that was also taken out?
ok, I’ll bite, what “coverage for illegals” are you talking about?
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
12:19 pm
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:09 pm
USinUK – “Why would you post such a horrible story about those poor sharks? What did they do to deserve to be so brutally attacked.”
I’m sure that the poor fish that sharks brutally attack and eat ask the same question of themselves.
“And then the people send in a dog after the sharks too. That is just wrong.”
No. The people didn’t *send* in the dog. Dogs just bark at things they don’t understand and or fear. Its what they do. They’re dogs. Sheesh.
Pay attention to what I'm saying than how I'm saying it
December 29th, 2011
12:19 pm
Dusty December 29th, 2011 12:06 pm
We told you so! Newt has tooooo much baggage. His big mouth go in his way.
You reap what you sow. Poor children everywhere can rejoice.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 29th, 2011
12:20 pm
Well, seems like poor old Newt had a bad couple weeks. The only thing left is for some woman to come out of the blue and sue him for child support. Or for his third wife to announce she’s divorcing him to run off with a circus dwarf.
Have a good p.m. everyboy.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:20 pm
RB: I have only had 1 employee leave me for a new job in over 20 years of managing people.
That you know of. I certainly wouldn’t tell my boss why I was leaving if he was a jerk. I’d just leave.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:21 pm
USinUK – Its cool. I mean they’re sharks, they probably earned it. Just without a trial, how can we be certain?
Kamchak – But a lot of people are scared of Newt. Just not in the way that some would want you to think. We’re scared because we think he would be a bad leader.
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
12:22 pm
Stevie Ray – “I’m a very small business so the math is easy….not sure about mega-employers..”
You are aware that Obamacare will only affect employers with 50 or more employees right? Exactly how large is your “small” business?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:24 pm
td: And all this prosperity was based on what? Borrowing money? What is happening now since all the money has run out?
Money doesn’t “run out” because money is not tied to anything tangible. It is a completely made-up construct that we all accept because it’s supposedly simple, and we all have this idea in our heads that in the end, everyone owes someone else something.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:25 pm
Butch – It affects everybody, or at least it has already affected me. My insurance rates went up last year, and will probably again this year (I have private insurance) and my insurance company sent me a letter with the notice of rate increase stating it was because of the regulatory costs associated with Obamacare (well, they didn’t say Obamacare, they said whatever the bill was actually called).
getalife
December 29th, 2011
12:25 pm
We should be thankful rb is not your boss.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:26 pm
Butch – That wasn’t meant to be taken as a defense of Stevie Ray, I know better than to jump on a sinking ship, and he seems to be doing a great job of sinking his ship on his own.
RB from Gwinnett
December 29th, 2011
12:26 pm
Adam – “That you know of. I certainly wouldn’t tell my boss why I was leaving if he was a jerk. I’d just leave.”
I wonder if your boss ever even realize you were gone.
One of your serious problem is you think your boss is a dumb as you are. I’m absolutely positive I’ve never had an employee just dissapear like that, Adam. I don’t what planet you’re living on, that’s just dumb. Seriously, are you capable of having an adult conversation about anything at all?
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
12:27 pm
Bush’s Huge Budget Numbers Blamed on Obama
The Republicans do like to blame their actions on others.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:27 pm
(ir)Rational: whatever the bill was actually called
QUIZ TIME!
What is the actual name of the bill? (I know the answer, and no, it’s not “Obamacare”)
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
12:27 pm
kayaker71 – “Mark Zukerberg, Facebook. All of these people started from very meager beginnings”
You consider a trust fund kid that came from a family that was worth millions to be from “meager beginings”?
Kamchak
December 29th, 2011
12:28 pm
We’re scared because we think he would be a bad leader.
He already is a bad leader.
And that’s the point. We were all “scared” of
Sarah PalinSnowbilly Snooki (also a bad leader) four years ago.Nice Guy
December 29th, 2011
12:28 pm
Jay – “I think there’s a certain poetry in the fact that Gingrich has come undone in such a fashion.”
Few things in life give Jay as much pleasure as finding different ways to call Newt an idiot.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:28 pm
Thulsa – That’s different, the sharks killed those fish for food, the whales didn’t eat the shark(s). And trust me, I know all too well what dogs will do when given the chance. One of mine would go after a 747 if he thought it was too close to my wife. The other one would as long as there was someone else there to protect her.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
12:28 pm
Seriously, are you capable of having an adult conversation about anything at all?
Damn, RB. I’m glad I was not drinking anything when I read that from you.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
12:29 pm
“The Republicans do like to blame their actions on others”
Nothing is their fault in la la land.
Michael
December 29th, 2011
12:29 pm
Kayaker – You gave an interesting list of companies started in the USA. All in technology fields. They could only start in the USA because the government funded the R & D that created those industries. In the first years of the computer industry the only customer was the US government – no private market existed. The internet was a product of government R & D. All of those companies and industries thrived because of government initiatives. After our government program (public, private, and educational systems involved) successfully landed a man on the moon, we attracted all the bright engineering students, since our programs were dominant.
So – no, those companies could not have started in any other country. However, if we continue to attack all government programs, that will not be true in the future.
Normal
December 29th, 2011
12:29 pm
All this “Newt-Poot” has made me want to open a window and let some enlightenment in…
Said the little boy, “Sometimes I drop my spoon.”
Said the old man, “I do that too.”
The little boy whispered, “I wet my pants.”
“I do that too,” laughed the little old man.
Said the little boy, “I often cry.”
The old man nodded, “So do I.”
“But worst of all,” said the boy, “it seems
Grown-ups don’t pay attention to me.”
And he felt the warmth of a wrinkled old hand.
“I know what you mean,” said the little old man.
Dusty
December 29th, 2011
12:29 pm
NO, NORMAL, I am not into satire. I leave all the funny stuff to liberals.
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GM
You asked: When will Romney release his tax returns?
Answer: When Obama releases his academic records at universities.
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JOSEF…Prodigious son,
I am not a prodigal daughter. Just a temporary observer of the cool karma of kooks.
GM
December 29th, 2011
12:29 pm
This just in:
satan has announce he is jumping in the rep race, the polls show he up by 20 points against Obama.
Everyone knows these rep will sell their soul to try to get him out of office, despite all the things he has done””’
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:29 pm
Adam – If I had of known then I would have put it, but I have since looked it up – The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
td: “And all this prosperity was based on what? Borrowing money? What is happening now since all the money has run out?”
The prosperity was based on a sense of shared prosperity. The real explosion in the ‘borrowing’ you speak of — by which I assume you mean deficits — was under Reagan.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
RB: One of your serious problem is you think your boss is a dumb as you are.
Actually my boss is pretty awesome. That’s why I still work here. Notice the “if” part of my statement and maybe it will make sense.
I’m absolutely positive I’ve never had an employee just dissapear like that, Adam.
That is not what you have said previously. You CONSTANTLY complain about people just one day not showing up and never coming back.
Mr Right
December 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
12:27 pm
Bush’s Huge Budget Numbers Blamed on Obama
The Republicans do like to blame their actions on others.
Ho Ho , how many times did we hear it was Bushs fault? Thats funny right there!!
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
You consider a trust fund kid that came from a family that was worth millions to be from “meager beginings”?
From the same folks who brought you “Preznit I-Wanna-Have-A-Beer-With.”
Nice Guy
December 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
Taxpayer – “The Republicans do like to blame their actions on others.”
Right, because Obama has nothing, and I mean nothing, to do with the fiscal condition of this country. Thanks, Taxpayer, I got it now. /sarc
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
Kam – He may already be a bad leader, but he isn’t leading anything overly important right now.
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
12:31 pm
Money doesn’t “run out” because money is not tied to anything tangible- Adam
Money is tied to the “full faith and credit of the issuing govt” which isn’t exactly tangible but if its a credible govt such as the U.S. govt then its pretty damn credible and worth a helluva lot more than many tangible things. Your understanding of all things economics has failed you yet again. Nothing new there.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
12:31 pm
What is the actual name of the bill? (I know the answer, and no, it’s not “Obamacare”)
Now you’re getting into the true problem with Democrats and the reason why Republicans do not like them or their bills. The Democrats need a Luntz to call their own.
getalife
December 29th, 2011
12:32 pm
“Just a temporary observer of the cool karma of kooks.”
Kyle’s blog is still closed or you would finally have a point.
Toil toil.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:32 pm
(ir)Rational : thank you. Well, companies can cite regulatory costs, but in essence they MUST spend 80% of the premiums on health care, only 20% can go to other things. If what they are saying is even remotely true, they were front loading profits so they would have some cash once that particular aspect kicked in.
Nice Guy
December 29th, 2011
12:33 pm
Kamchak – “We were all “scared” ”
Any who exactly endowed you with such power as to speak for all of us?
-(Btw, this is a favorite little jab of the holier than thou crowd on this blog)
0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
12:33 pm
Irresponsible and Upatriotic …………. self condemnation !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
12:33 pm
“Bush’s Huge Budget Numbers Blamed on Obama”
The blame W card. Couldn’t see that coming.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
12:33 pm
Damn, RB. I’m glad I was not drinking anything when I read that from you.
yeah, I’ve lost count of the number of times RB has greeted us with “you tools” or some other kindly term of endearment.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:33 pm
Thulsa: Money is tied to the “full faith and credit of the issuing govt” which isn’t exactly tangible
….
Your understanding of all things economics has failed you yet again. Nothing new there.
So I was right, but I don’t understand economics. Interesting….
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
12:34 pm
ir -”My insurance rates went up last year, and will probably again this year (I have private insurance) and my insurance company sent me a letter with the notice of rate increase stating it was because of the regulatory costs associated with Obamacare (well, they didn’t say Obamacare, they said whatever the bill was actually called).”
Yeah, but when didn’t your rates go up? Mine were increasing on a regular basis long before Obama came along.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:35 pm
Now you’re getting into the true problem with Democrats and the reason why Republicans do not like them or their bills.
Personally I would love to see a ban on naming any house or senate bills at all. Call them HR1701 or SB405. Forget the stupid names, since sometimes they are used very very wrongly, like Clear Skies Act or No Child Left Behind.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:36 pm
Adam – They probably are just front loading their profits, and I’ll probably be looking in about three months for a new company after they go up again. That is one of the huge benefits of being 26, I can find awesome health insurance for fairly cheap.
Paul
December 29th, 2011
12:37 pm
Why should a candidate release personal tax records?
If it was of such vital importance to the electoral process, would not Congress have made it mandatory?
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:37 pm
Butch – Sorry, my insurance rates went up by a greater percentage last year than they did the year before. Better?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:37 pm
(ir)Rational : Damn and I thought I was the youngun
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:38 pm
Adam – I could agree with that idea. Let them be HB whatever or SB whatever and then we don’t have to debate them based off their name. Then again, people like Jay or Neal Boortz would probably still give them a nickname and we would end up right back where we started.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:39 pm
(ir)Rational: The 80% aspect has gone into effect as of sometime earlier this month, I believe. So you should be able to start finding good rates soon. Once they realize they can’t maintain that ratio without actually providing care, the costs will go down or they will start badgering you to go in for regular appointments XD
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:39 pm
Nope, I’ve got that one covered. At least among the regulars.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
12:39 pm
Adam – you are a youngun. Just among more of them now
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:40 pm
Adam – They’ve already started that. Sent out a nice letter earlier this year saying I had free physicals, and should probably take them up on that offer.
Pay attention to what I'm saying than how I'm saying it
December 29th, 2011
12:40 pm
@Dusty December 29th, 2011 12:29 pm – You asked: When will Romney release his tax returns?
Answer: When Obama releases his academic records at universities.
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You have beat that horse to death. If you are riding a horse and it dies GET OFF!
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:40 pm
(ir)Rational: Yeah that’s tricky. You could potentially outlaw Congress calling them any names (except for the ironic thing that Congress would have to pass such a measure) but freedom of the press would allow the press and pundits to call them things.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:41 pm
(ir)Rational: I like how they called the physicals “free”
Personally I’d be testing to see how low I could get my premiums by requesting less care over the period of a year
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:42 pm
Well, we have to have some way to get the dumb masses riled up against things we want them to revile. Those catchy titles are the only reason many people pay attention.
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
12:43 pm
Why should a candidate release personal tax records?
If it was of such vital importance to the electoral process, would not Congress have made it mandatory?
I don’t know if it’s of vital importance; all I know is, it’s been SOP for Presidential candidates in living memory to release this information, if my not-always-perfect memory is correct. So I’d imagine it Mitt or some other candidate makes a point of not releasing that information, it becomes an object of speculation.
That said, I was just rooting around in an FEC explanation of public matching funds…
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/pubfund.shtml
I didn’t see anything in there requiring a candidate to release income tax records to qualify for matching funds.
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
12:43 pm
ir – “Butch – Sorry, my insurance rates went up by a greater percentage last year than they did the year before. Better?”
I wasn’t judging you. It’s just funny to me that over the last 25 years there has been a constant complaint about insurance rates and how the the insurance companies always screw you every year with increases. But all of a sudden Obama is elected, and it’s like insurance rates were the best thing since sliced bread until he ruined them with the healthcare act.
0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
12:43 pm
“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure…. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America ’s debt limit.” Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. 2006
Pay attention to what I'm saying than how I'm saying it
December 29th, 2011
12:44 pm
@GM December 29th, 2011 12:29 pm – This just in: satan has announce he is jumping in the rep race, the polls show he up by 20 points against Obama.
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No my friend satan was already in the Republican race.
His name was DOG WHISTLE!
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:44 pm
Well, that physical was the only time I went this year. I would probably cancel it, but I tend to be accident prone, and while I may not get much use from it as far as doctor’s appointments are concerned, I find it worth it for the occasional ER visit.
josef
December 29th, 2011
12:45 pm
Dusty
My karma ran over your dogma.
ADAM
You are a youngun, a pretty sharp one and hope for the future, but still a youngun!
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:46 pm
Butch – I wasn’t saying the rate increase was his fault, that’s what Coventry said. I probably still have the letter, but even if I did, I wouldn’t be overly interested in emailing it to you as proof, you’ll just have to take my word for it. And as far as what has been going on for the past 25 years, I wouldn’t know, I’ve only been worrying about insurance for the past 4.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:47 pm
josef: Yes but not THE youngun. “They stoles it from usssss”
josef
December 29th, 2011
12:48 pm
Personally, I think Obama should release his transcripts…Copy Me Biden did and so did Embarassment to C Students everywhere Bush…I mean if you’re going to tout that Ivy League schooling, well, how’d you do there and what did you study?
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
12:49 pm
josef – “I mean if you’re going to tout that Ivy League schooling, well, how’d you do there and what did you study?”
Are you the only person on the planet that doesn’t know he studied law?
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
12:49 pm
I therefore intend to oppose the effort to increase America ’s debt limit.
Where’d he say he’d shut down the government if he didn’t get his way on this, Scout? Think you left something out.
Kamchak
December 29th, 2011
12:50 pm
Kamchak – “We were all “scared” ”
Any who exactly endowed you with such power as to speak for all of us?
I see that I didn’t speak clearly enough for you to understand.
What I should have posted was, we all (liberals) were accused of being scared….
Pay attention to what I'm saying than how I'm saying it
December 29th, 2011
12:50 pm
@Thulsa Doom December 29th, 2011 12:33 pm – “Bush’s Huge Budget Numbers Blamed on Obama” – The blame W card. Couldn’t see that coming.
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No its the give credit where credit is DUE card.
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
December 29th, 2011
12:50 pm
What if Obama tried to pull this off?
http://archives.hud.gov/news/2003/pr03-140.cfm
Imagine the Tea People’s reaction?
(Giving each low-income homebuyer $10,000 for a downpayment – 2003)
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:51 pm
josef: I am pretty sure that releasing his transcripts is 1) just another form of “papers please” and 2) won’t change anything. It’s pretty obvious what his major was and just how well he did. You don’t graduate magna cum laude without a large number of A grades. If he DID release his transcripts, he would be lambasted for favoritism/affirmative action once people see the sheer number of As he got.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:51 pm
Butch – As an undergrad? Impressive.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:52 pm
Not a Neal Boortz Redneck: pfft. Barney Frank made them do it. OBVIOUSLY. DUH!
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:52 pm
Adam – I didn’t steal your precious.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
12:53 pm
The blame W card. Couldn’t see that coming.
Given that it was a blame Obama card, I can understand why you couldn’t see it coming.
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
12:53 pm
ir – “Butch – As an undergrad? Impressive”
I don’t know what he studied as an undergrad. Then again, I barely remember my undergrad work. When I got my first job it was based on my MBA.
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
12:54 pm
Adam,
Nope. You’re still wrong. Reason being that the U.S. govt is very real. And very tangible. And I don’t think there’s any disputing that.
Back to Newt
December 29th, 2011
12:55 pm
The fact is that Newt has been slurping and slipping and slopping at the K Street trough for over a decade. He says what he has been paid to say. He ran for President when he saw how much more money he could make. Why do you think he has taken so much time off the campaign trail to Hawk books? Also maybe, he thinks he can now charge more to be a “historian.” Why do all the Tea Party Crazies ignore the fact it is the other Republicans are the ones attacking him. And the right wing loves to label any one that questions them a “liberal.” Who cares about their name calling and shoddy thinking? The Tea Party Republicans in the House are incapable of governing as they are so out of step with the majority of mainstream Americans. That is why the Dems will keep the Senate. And if a Tea Party Crazy is the Republican US Senate nominee in Georgia, they will lose that seat. Thank God for Senators Chambliss and Isaacson!
By the way, Newt is so incompetent he let someone else get the rights to http://www.NewtGingrich.com
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
12:55 pm
Taxpayer,
I just wanted to be out in front of the race to blame W is all. Nice to see you are still part of my fan club.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
12:56 pm
Butch – Just pointing out that law wasn’t all he studied. I got my first job based off my mad computer skills. And my second based off my first. And my current based off my second. Luckily for me, no one has asked to see my transcripts. Well, except for the admissions office at Tech when I asked them if they would let me come back.
Erwin's cat
December 29th, 2011
12:56 pm
Agree with josef, why not man up and release the transcripts….? what’s there to hide?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
12:57 pm
Thulsa: Reason being that the U.S. govt is very real. And very tangible. And I don’t think there’s any disputing that.
What makes the US government tangible? You know I chose that word for a reason, don’t you?
josef
December 29th, 2011
12:57 pm
Butch
Nah! Do tell…what courses? What grades? Who did he study under? What did he write about? I really would like to know…
ADAM
I agree with what you say, but that’s still no reason not to do it. Biden and Bush did and they knew that theirs would be trotted out for, well, comment! And being magna cum laude and A’s pretty much say you knew how to parrot the line. I’m interested in what the parrot, obviously a bright one, said…
If someone comes to me applying for a position, I would NEED to know what courses they took and what they made of the information imparted there…
Pay attention to what I'm saying than how I'm saying it
December 29th, 2011
12:59 pm
@josef December 29th, 2011 12:48 pm – Personally, I think Obama should release his transcripts…
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You cannot have it both ways. You want Obama to certify his education and give the idiots below a pass.
If Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich release their transcripts we might have a rational discussion.
I bet you Obama is smarter than that bunch of idiots COMBINED!
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
1:00 pm
Back to Newt –
did anyone get NewtGingrich.xxx yet? If so, then you might get a ‘TRUE’ picture of the Nutster
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
1:01 pm
Erwins cat – “Agree with josef, why not man up and release the transcripts….? what’s there to hide?”
Maybe he’s trying to protect the image of Harvard University. Yeah, that’s the ticket. If it ever got out that just anyone could go there, graduate with honors and be elected President of the Harvard Law Review, the scandal would be unbearable. I have an idea, why don’t YOU try applying for Harvard and see how far you get.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
1:01 pm
Thulsa,
I know you yearn ever so much for attention and so long as you post silly comments that I spot and wish to reply to, you can have a little. Otherwise, you’ll have to settle on your mirror for all the attention you feel you deserve.
Doggone/GA
December 29th, 2011
1:01 pm
“what’s there to hide?”
About as much as there was to hide on his birth certificate
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
1:02 pm
Butch Cassidy,
I think we can all agree that health insurance premiums have indeed been going up for years but the most recent increases seemed to be steeper than usual. And if new coverages are mandated then of course premiums will necessarily have to rise. No way around that. The only reason rates haven’t increased even more is because the health plans are waiting to see the legal result of whether ACA stands or not when it goes before the scotus. If it stands then I think rates will most certainly rise from everything I’ve been reading on it.
emo
December 29th, 2011
1:02 pm
And I’m sure Newtie was tickled pink by the Citizens United decision… until it bit him in the a$$.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:02 pm
Erwin’s Cat: Agree with josef, why not man up and release the transcripts….? what’s there to hide?
The “if you have nothing to hide…” argument? How about you release your own long form, short form, and all college transcripts to the general public. If you have no problem with that, show them right here. If you have nothing to hide, that is….
williebkind
December 29th, 2011
1:03 pm
Jay is boring!
Pay attention to what I'm saying than how I'm saying it
December 29th, 2011
1:03 pm
@Erwin’s cat December 29th, 2011 12:56 pm – Agree with josef, why not man up and release the transcripts….? what’s there to hide?
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If grades were a top priority for president why are these idiots running (Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich)?
George W. Bush was not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Thank god they got rid of asinine 9-9! NEXT
Erwin's cat
December 29th, 2011
1:05 pm
Butch and Doggone – two responses = no answers
Don’t apologize for it, explain it!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 29th, 2011
1:05 pm
Agree with josef, why not man up and release the transcripts….? what’s there to hide?
Well, I don’t like the turn this blog is taking. If the President of the U.S. of A. can be made to release his transcripts, what’s to keep every boss from demanding that his workers release theirs? I don’t want my boss to see my grades, especially in arithmetic. I already said my senior year was the 5th grade. That ought to be good enough. Dang multiplying tables!
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
1:05 pm
Taxpayer,
You just love giving me attention don’t you. Can’t help yourself can you? Its okay. You remain a member of my court of jesters. And in good standing too.
(ir)Rational
December 29th, 2011
1:06 pm
Adam – I have plenty to hide. I was a horrible student. I don’t even want my mother seeing them, and she professes to love me no matter what I do.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:06 pm
And being magna cum laude and A’s pretty much say you knew how to parrot the line. I’m interested in what the parrot, obviously a bright one, said…
(Disclaimer, the “you” in here is a general “you” for anyone seeking transcripts and further info) After getting the transcripts, then, you will need even more information. Is that right? You will drill into the background and general teachings of every single professor, and assume that Obama bought all the lines and never made up his mind against any of them? It would be like this whole Reverend Wright thing all over again, where a single sermon is determined to be something Obama practically said and believed himself for 20+ years.
This proves, though, that handing out the transcripts is useless. It’s like trying to find something, anything that will prove a pre-conclusion of some kind.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:07 pm
(ir)Rational: Shh I wasn’t asking you! Don’t give out a disarming answer!
Back to Newt
December 29th, 2011
1:07 pm
Here we go, the ever original name calling williebkind crawled out from under his rock.
Pay attention to what I'm saying than how I'm saying it
December 29th, 2011
1:09 pm
@Butch Cassidy December 29th, 2011 1:01 pm – Erwins cat – “Agree with josef, why not man up and release the transcripts….? what’s there to hide?” Why don’t YOU try applying for Harvard and see how far you get.
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Here’s the bigger question.
Everyone on this blog who got their GED raise your hands.
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
1:09 pm
“What makes the US government tangible?”- Adam
Adam. Your stubbornness. It do remind me of Rain Man and his K-mart underwear.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
1:11 pm
Thulsa,
You flatter yourself.
bluecoat
December 29th, 2011
1:11 pm
No doubt a Romney/Christie ticket would carry more weight than anything President Obama could put together.
td
December 29th, 2011
1:12 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
12:30 pm
Could you please define “shared prosperity”?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:12 pm
Thulsa: Duck, dodge, weave! (Your response is not an answer. If it’s so easy to defend, why aren’t you?)
josef
December 29th, 2011
1:12 pm
PAY ATTENTION
“You cannot have it both ways. You want Obama to certify his education and give the idiots below a pass”
Where the hell did I say that?
Oy! I think ANYbody running for the top position in my country should release those transcripts. Do I think he should be required to, no, I don’t. Do I think he’s “hiding” anything? No, I don’t. Do I accept the reality that the accolades he garnered speak to his intelligence and comptency? Of course.
I have a resume and a curriculum vitae. If somebody wants (needs) to see my curriculum vitae after scanning the resume, I send it to them. Mine are private only insofar as those whom I am trying to get to bring me on board are in the private arena. Were I in the public, then, they should be public.
Erwin's cat
December 29th, 2011
1:12 pm
Adam – project much?
I think the electorate has every right to request them, he is asking them to put him and trust him to perform one most powerful positions in the world…asking to see credentials should be SOP…as it is for almost every other lesser position
Back to Newt
December 29th, 2011
1:13 pm
Christie would never play second fiddle.
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
1:13 pm
Taxpayer,
Actually you flatter me. You’re just not smarter enough to figure out how and why.
Joseph
December 29th, 2011
1:14 pm
Romney 45% Obama 39%… LOL… Those re-election chances are getting slimmer by the day Jay.. I thought you just posted a few days ago how his poll numbers were looking up???
Doggone/GA
December 29th, 2011
1:14 pm
“he is asking them to put him and trust him to perform one most powerful positions in the world”
Well…he seems to have done just fine in THAT regard WITHOUT releasing his transcripts. Which leads me to believe they have no relevence to the vast majority of voters.
Thomas
December 29th, 2011
1:15 pm
Lest we forget the Time Magazine list of folks who caused this (financial) crisis
Angelo Mozilo
Phil Gramm
Alan Greenspan
Chris Cox
American Consumers
Hank Paulson
Joe Cassano
Ian McCarthy
Frank Raines
Kathleen Corbet
Dick Fuld
Marion and Herb Sandler
Bill Clinton
George W. Bush
Stan O’Neal
Wen Jiabao
David Lereah
John Devaney
Bernie Madoff
Lew Ranieri
Burton Jablin
Fred Goodwin
Sandy Weill
David Oddsson
Jimmy Cayne
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
1:16 pm
Well I can see both sides of the transcripts debate in so far as a previously unelected candidate (or for a higher office), but for a re-election it doesn’t seem to make sense.
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:16 pm
OBAMA will wipe the floor with ROMNEY or NEWT in a debate
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:16 pm
Erwin’s Cat: Given how much else he has accomplished prior to being President (and if you really think “community organizer” is the extent of it, you are lost) why are the college records so important? Do you really want his grades, or are you trying to find something else? Some kind of moral or emotional judgment to be garnered from the transcripts? Are you looking to see what teachers taught him so you can examine THEIR classes and determine whether or not they were “Marxist”? What exactly is the point?
Butch Cassidy
December 29th, 2011
1:16 pm
bluecoat – “No doubt a Romney/Christie ticket would carry more weight than anything President Obama could put together.”
Yes, look how well McCain/Palin turned out.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
1:17 pm
Yikes! That GW sure did like to spend other people’s money. He was the best at THAT.
josef
December 29th, 2011
1:17 pm
ADAM
Let’s go there. I can say I have a magna cum laude in History and Languages. You’re Jagielonian’s admissions director. Wouldn’t you want to know what history and what languages?
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
1:17 pm
Adam,
But of course Adam. The U.S. government is not tangible. Its just an ethereal idea. Those navy battleships and those F-22 raptors aren’t tangible either. Your post of utter nonsense stands on its own merits. Or in your case demerits.
Adam, you labor and toil ceaselessy in a never ending quest to make sense. Doesn’t seem fair that you’ve yet to be rewarded with a sensical post. Its like Charlie Brown trying to kick that football.
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:17 pm
the repubs envy of OBAMA is bordering on insananity
Dusty
December 29th, 2011
1:17 pm
Oh my, the liberals here are still playing hide’n’seek EXCEPT if you seek some truth they run and hide and cry.
So Obama is a Harvard graduate, etc. etc. and we don’t need no transcrips!! He be smart!!!
So Gingrich has earned a PhD and he is called every dumb name in the book by liberals here.
Thus it goes in this fair minded place of good will!!!!
Erwin's cat
December 29th, 2011
1:18 pm
Well…he seems to have done just fine in THAT regard WITHOUT releasing his transcripts
I’m not sure everyone shares that opinion
td
December 29th, 2011
1:18 pm
josef
December 29th, 2011
12:57 pm
As soon as one of them is the nominee then yes they should release their transcript and their real birth certificate to prove they were a natural born citizen. I have heard rumors that Romney may have been born in Mexico and we should see his BC as proof just as we should see Obama’s real one. If they were both born outside of the country then they should be eliminated from the race.
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:18 pm
josef: Languages yes, but History is a general subject that covers most, if not all, history to begin with, no? And to my knowledge there is no such degree as “Languages”
0311/1811
December 29th, 2011
1:19 pm
“Merry” Christmas Mr. Burglar:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdQiPyZnuNo&feature=endscreen&NR=1
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
1:19 pm
For Joseph @ 1.14:
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/more-cautionary-poll-tales/
If you don’t feel like clicking the link…
.
,
.
Spoiler alert!
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.
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There was no President Bob Dole, no President Mike Dukakis, and no President Walter Mondale.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
1:19 pm
td: “Could you please define “shared prosperity”?”
It means the basic belief that workers should share in business profits, as opposed to those profits going preponderantly to business owners and executives. Which was the case until the crisis of the “Fordist” model of capitalism in the 1970s.
See BLS statistics e.g. here:
http://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2011/01/art3full.pdf
http://epi.3cdn.net/3b7a1c34747d141327_4dm6bx8ni.pdf
Or HuffPo has historical graph ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/18/wages-productivity-report_n_837814.html) :
As productivity has steadily risen since the 1970s, worker compensation has remained flat.
In other words, the share of the pie going to those who already have wealth is drastically increasing at the expense of those labor for a living.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
1:19 pm
Gingrich/Christie now that’s a ‘HEAVYWEIGHT’ ticket
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:20 pm
the repubs will never accept OBAMAS birth certificate..
Brosephus
December 29th, 2011
1:20 pm
but the most recent increases seemed to be steeper than usual.
I’ve personally had almost 300% increases before the ACA was passed. I can’t speak for everyone else, but my increase this year is nowhere near as painful in the past.
josef
December 29th, 2011
1:21 pm
Common and Doggone
In essence I agree with you both that he now has a record as POTUS by which to evaluate him…which is why I said that I would like to see them…he’s been hired without them and his job evaluation should be based primarily on THAT record…
Still, though, if I knew more about his preparation I could judge more leniently or more harshly where I have reservations. Was he prepared, say, to deal with Trans Caucasian nationalism?
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
1:21 pm
“Given how much else he has accomplished prior to being President”- Adam,
And then there was raucous, riotous laughter. Some people have the distinct talent of being funniest when they’re trying to be their most serious.
TaxPayer
December 29th, 2011
1:22 pm
Leave it to Republicans to just spend, spend, spend… other people’s money. If only one of them had been half as responsible as Jimmy Carter with the purse strings.
Jay
December 29th, 2011
1:23 pm
sheets
stands for decibels
December 29th, 2011
1:23 pm
sheets, female canines.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
1:23 pm
Then we could say Nutster would be a perfect Sec. of State since he knows about Belgian colonialism?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:23 pm
Thulsa: So the fact that the government uses tax money to buy warships makes the construct of the US government tangible, and therefore makes money tangible?
I think the reason you think I don’t make sense is because you really don’t understand that the government is intangible, and only the figures and “stuff” that is laid claim to by officials in the government is what is tangible. For example, the Pentagon is tangible. The DoD is not. The DoD is an intangible department that lays CLAIM to the Pentagon.
Another reason I might not make sense to you on the money issue is because you have bought into the belief that it is something of supreme value.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 29th, 2011
1:24 pm
Dusty: “So Obama is a Harvard graduate, etc. etc. and we don’t need no transcrips!! He be smart!!! / So Gingrich has earned a PhD and he is called every dumb name in the book by liberals here.”
Ok I’ll take that one.
I for one believe Obama and Gingrich to be roughly equals in the area of intelligence. For what it’s worth. But, again, for me book intelligence is just one component of leadership in an era of turmoil and crisis.
Doggone/GA
December 29th, 2011
1:24 pm
“I’m not sure everyone shares that opinion”
That he is President of the United States is not a matter of opinion, except to nutjobs maybe
Brosephus
December 29th, 2011
1:24 pm
sheets, female canines.
josef
December 29th, 2011
1:25 pm
ADAM
No degree in Modern Foreign Languages? Do tell…must be a misprint!
So, the graduate program in Polish Studies shouldn’t want to know what history courses I took?
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:25 pm
Thulsa: Professor, State Senator, US Senator. The only reason you do not consider those accomplishments is because you simply don’t want to give that kind of credit to the man. They would be accomplishments for anyone on the GOP side, and you would probably concede them as accomplishments for most anyone BUT Obama on the Democrat side.
Obama is over
December 29th, 2011
1:26 pm
Good thing Axelrod/Plouffe don’t send emails to their minions recommending catch phrases like “corporate jet owners”, “millionaires and billionaires” , and “supporting the middle class.” Of course the middle class is kind of a moving target in the eyes of the Obama administration. His poll numbers are going down across all demographics simply because the policies of the past three years have not worked and Americans recognise that another four years of Big Government out of control spending is dangerous. Even if Obama wins, more than likely the GOP will gain control of the Senate and maintain the House. Ben Nelson’s retirement announcement this week is another example of a seasoned politician throwing in the towel because he realizes that he can’t get reelected supporting the Obama platform.
Erwin's cat
December 29th, 2011
1:26 pm
I’d counter with, if the transcripts are so unimportant, then why not release them, or better why hide them at all….the fact we are even discussing this shows some relevance….
But so far I’ve heard excuses not reasons
NotNewt2012
December 29th, 2011
1:28 pm
I don’t think that the ads are negative. They are just the truth. The subject matter is the problem here and the subject matter is not presidential material. No way in hell that guy should even be running with his record. Evidently Newt isn’t happy with the life he has lead and can’t stand to see it flashed back in front of him He should just stop wasting money (who’s is it anyway?) and our time and go home. To be a prominent professor of history he should know that his past would be present in the campaign. Okay maybe a revisionist historian.
Joseph
December 29th, 2011
1:28 pm
stands for decibels:
Rasmussen is the reputably polling organization going…. Others have Romney beating Obama too… I guess when you don’t agree with a poll it must be irrelevant… Its seems liberals have problems with polls and the truth
Adam
December 29th, 2011
1:28 pm
josef: No degree in Modern Foreign Languages? Do tell…must be a misprint!
Was not aware there was such a thing, but still, there isn’t one called “Languages” right? And what about magna cum laude with a law degree says anything other than “US Law”? Are people afraid what he really studied at Harvard was “Sharia Law?”
So, the graduate program in Polish Studies shouldn’t want to know what history courses I took?
I guess I don’t know enough about Polish studies to know why this would be relevant, except that academia ALWAYS asks for transcripts.
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:30 pm
puhleeze let me post my comments
Erwin's cat
December 29th, 2011
1:30 pm
No Doggone my comment was pointed to how “he’s done fine so far”…nice deflect though
Dusty
December 29th, 2011
1:30 pm
JOSEF,
Obama is prepared to deal with trans oceananic vacation travel to Hawaii, not to mention the help of schooling in a Muslim elementary school in Indonesia. Maybe the drug experience while at Columbia U.(as mentioned in his book) is also helpful. Experience is a wonderful thing,
Tres bien! (ersatz)
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:30 pm
cmon cmon cmon cmon
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
1:30 pm
Common Sense isn’t very Common
December 29th, 2011
1:19 pm
Gingrich/Christie now that’s a ‘HEAVYWEIGHT’ ticket
That’s only cause there’s not a SUPER HEAVYWEIGHT division.
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 29th, 2011
1:31 pm
Slowly, ever so slowly, with the passage of time, Evolution is selecting
for the gene that senses Irony.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 29th, 2011
1:32 pm
Jay – wrong thread
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:36 pm
DUSTY
how does it feel to be envious of a man u feel youre morally superior to?
Thulsa Doom
December 29th, 2011
1:38 pm
Adam,
Could you kindly translate your 1:23 post from nonsensical, rambling gobbledeegook into something sensible. I speak English, Spanish, and a smattering of German but no gibberish or gobbledeegook. Your gobbledeegook is a dialect of gibberish which is incoherent to a conservative mind.
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:40 pm
NEWT needs to learn family values from BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA..
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:43 pm
WHERES THE rightwings favorite clown HERMAN CAIN?
lliberalefty
December 29th, 2011
1:45 pm
thank god OBAMA has kept AMERICA safe, unlike DUBYA
josef
December 29th, 2011
1:49 pm
ADAM\
Quickly before going upstairs…I should have said Modern Languages…
Dusty
December 29th, 2011
1:53 pm
Liberalefty
Are you on the ’sauce” today? Noobody has mentioned morals except liberals here trying to smear Gingrich..
I would say the morals of President Obama are just as good or better than many politicians in Washington.
Tea Party Meber
December 29th, 2011
1:54 pm
Newt is the only guy that undrestnds the average guy in Amreaca. Some of U should stop pixin on him and lissen 2 his words. He make the most since from every 1 running 4 Prez especialy that looser Obama Bin Laden
Earnhardt fan
December 29th, 2011
1:56 pm
Earnhardt fan Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Why?
A dad
December 29th, 2011
1:57 pm
Stands – my pardon re the facts. But here’s what she did, and reported by no less an authoritative source than the Washington Times:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/12/earmark-less-bill-gives-pelosis-mouse-cookie/
Washington Times trumps the Tampa daily…
Earnhardt fan
December 29th, 2011
1:57 pm
I no why. U R bias against true Americans like myself. Go back to Iraq if U dont like it hear.
Mark
December 29th, 2011
2:27 pm
All I can say is Thank God for Republicans, they are truly entertaining!
NotNewt2012
December 29th, 2011
2:31 pm
I think Newt smeared himself. He doesn’t need the right wing or left wing to help out with that one..
Joseph
December 29th, 2011
2:33 pm
Oh poor Jay…. Obama’s back down to 41% approval…. That was a fun two days while it lasted hmmm….. LOL…..
Adam
December 29th, 2011
3:30 pm
gallup poll says 46%. What poll are YOU looking at?
Back to Newt
December 29th, 2011
3:30 pm
@Earnhart. You are an embarrassment to Earnhart by using his name. God help us if you are an example of a good American. You need to go back in time-you would have done a great job as one of Stalin’s goons! You ate living proof of the failures of Georgia’s education al system.
Earnhardt fan
December 29th, 2011
3:36 pm
Fist, U spelt it wrong and 2nd, if U dont like what I say than U R against free speach. If U dont like that than U need 2 go back 2 your tent in Iraq!
GT
December 29th, 2011
3:40 pm
It tells us something that someone runs for the highest office in the land and is surprised his character is a factor in the race. Newt offers himself up with this baggage and dares anyone to mention it. It is like the mistress at the funeral sitting next to the wife.
GT
December 29th, 2011
3:46 pm
If we ran a poll that ask who supports living you may on a given day get about 30%. Ask the same question as your interviewee is standing on the gallows and you may get 99%. I think you will see the poll numbers of Obama rise as we get more realistic about who is replacing him.
sasha
December 29th, 2011
4:06 pm
Please go home Newt—-and stay there—you are crooked as a jaybird in hell.I am sick of you after
the past 20 years—whats wrong with Nathan Deal?
Pay attention to what I'm saying than how I'm saying it
December 29th, 2011
4:10 pm
@Dusty December 29th, 2011 1:17 pm -So Obama is a Harvard graduate, etc. etc. and we don’t need no transcrips!! He be smart!!! So Gingrich has earned a PhD and he is called every dumb name in the book by liberals here.
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The difference between the Harvard graduate Obama and Dr. Gingrich is with Grigrich’s Doctorate he is still ignorant. Anyone who says poor kids need to work as janitors obviously did not learn much or earn his “PhD”.
You cannot teach or buy class or common sense.
A dad
December 29th, 2011
4:10 pm
Miz Dusty – I’m with you. Instead of attempting to be a responsible journalist, Bookie just tries to incite, insult, rabble rouse, etc. And for all of us, on both sides, who complain about DC not being able to get along, look at some of the back and forth on this blog today. Josef, Adam, Granny, Stands, Thulsa, Reneck, Dusty, and others, it’s been fun and even educational trading views. But I said yesterday that I was through insulting and name calling, but unfortunately, that seems to be what’s in fashion so how can we blame DC for what we ourselves do? Now, if we were able to have rationale discourse, respond to facts with counter-facts, etc., and do away with the juvenile insulting, then perhaps we could expect DC to do the same. Sad state of the world my friends. A dad, signing off. Best wishes in 2012.
And AJC, I won’t be reading Bookman’s column anymore, which means I won’t be viewing any of the ads on his pages either. Shame. I’d like to think he could be a fairly decent journalist one day if he could write more objectively.
Back to Newt
December 29th, 2011
4:11 pm
@Earnhardt. You are the one against free speech with your bigoted, reply telling anyone who disagrees with you to go back to their tent in Iraq. I see it is an insult to the tens of thousands of servicembers who were deployed in their tents there so you were free to guzzle beer and pass gas. You are as anti American as any Muslim terrorist, probably more since you Calais
to be a good American.
Corey
December 29th, 2011
4:23 pm
Mr. Obama becomes the default topic by Republican voters on here regardless the topic. Jay, do a piece on say, kittens and watch the Republican voters on here twist themselves into a pretzle tying to link that topic to Mr. Obama. I guess they will comment on how Bo Obama terrorizes cats.
ibsage
December 29th, 2011
4:33 pm
gingrich is a neocon, establishment, palestine denier, israel firster. he’s part of the crowd that got us into iraq and afghanistan that has resulted in the greatest squandering of american wealth in recorded history. he’s a thuggish, chickenhawk, born again, baby bush clone.
BigD
December 29th, 2011
4:46 pm
A dad…
Jay a real Journalist?
That requires a description of events verbatim without prejudice and void of personal opinion.
NEVER GONA HAPPEN !!!!
Boris Badnoff
December 29th, 2011
4:52 pm
Thank goodness Our Messiah would never succumb to the foibles of these mere mortals traipsing through the Corn Belt. The Anointed One is taking a well deserved vacation in his alleged birthplace of Hawaii (everyone knows he was born in Heaven)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2079588/From-2-000-dress-1-000-skirt-Michelle-Obamas-lavish-Hawaii-wardrobe-revealed.html
It’s only costing US 99%ers $ 4 million of the taxpayers money which is a fabulous return on our investment considering the flourishing economy his brilliant economic policies have produced. Tonight I shall celebrate by having an extra large bowl of gruel.
E Harmony keeps matching me with fat chicks
December 29th, 2011
4:55 pm
So close to New Years Eve and I don’t have a date…..Well, a fat one.
Tell me Mr Clinton, how did you tolerate the cows?
td
December 29th, 2011
5:08 pm
Pay attention to what I’m saying than how I’m saying it
The difference between the Harvard graduate Obama and Dr. Gingrich is with Grigrich’s Doctorate he is still ignorant. Anyone who says poor kids need to work as janitors obviously did not learn much or earn his “PhD”.
You cannot teach or buy class or common sense.
So you think poor children should not learn about having a work ethic? How else are they going to break the cycle of poverty? Rich and middle class children learn the work ethic at home from watching their parents get up every morning and go to work. They learn that sometimes one must sacrifice the vacation or the weekend ballgame because dad or mom has to work. Where are the poor getting these life lessons from?
Tell us again how Newt is ignorant?
td
December 29th, 2011
5:15 pm
ibsage
December 29th, 2011
4:33 pm
gingrich is a neocon, establishment, palestine denier, israel firster. he’s part of the crowd that got us into iraq and afghanistan that has resulted in the greatest squandering of american wealth in recorded history. he’s a thuggish, chickenhawk, born again, baby bush clone
Besides thugish there is nothing you said not to be proud of and I am sure Newt would agree with most of them.
Let us compare the opposite, which is what I am assuming is what Obama is:
Lily livered coward, Arab loving, Israel hater. He is part of the crowd that wants the Islamic terrorist to control the middle east and would rather squander American prosperity with a total welfare, redistributed country.
I think I would much rather have a Newt then the opposite.
Back to Newt
December 29th, 2011
6:44 pm
@Boris Badnoff. And you have calculated how much it cost us taxpayers every time George W Nush went back to play cowboy/a village idiot in a small town in Texas, including when hundreds it thousands of Americans were suffering during Hurricane Katrina? If some of my best friends weren’t Republicans, I would think that all Republicans were Tea Party idiots, racing with and in the pack to see who can make it over the cliff first! I truly believe that the Republican Party will save itself from the in-American Tea Party Terrorists and go back into the mainstream. But it will not be in time for next year’s election when the Democrats keep the Senate and Barack Obama is re-elected!
Back to Newt
December 29th, 2011
6:51 pm
@td. Since when do rich kids learn the value of work. On which planet do you live? One only has to look at the silver spoon fed, former drunk we had for the previous President to see through this bs. I guess some Republicans are so deluded that they believe if they tell a lue often enough, it will become the truth. Doesn’t happen in the Internet age! GW will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents in history. Too bad it took him so long to stand up to Darth Vader, oops I meant DICK Cheney!
independent thinker
December 30th, 2011
8:17 am
Newt is first and foremost a hypocritical windbag who will say or do anything to sell books and get consulting fees.
Adam
December 30th, 2011
9:20 am
td: Rich and middle class children learn the work ethic at home from watching their parents get up every morning and go to work
Correction, that applies to POOR and middle class children, because poor people work a LOT MORE than rich people. Many rich people with children are currently sitting pretty in retirement, frequenting casinos or sitting in their home office looking at their investment portfolios. The rich kids DO NOT learn the value of work that way. They think all they have to do is ask daddy for money.
Poor and middle class kids do not have this luxury. They get told they need to earn their own money a heck of a lot more often than rich kids. If you really think otherwise, well, you made the assertion first. I’d like to see some evidence.
XX TOP
December 30th, 2011
1:46 pm
Go Rick Perry!
catlady
December 30th, 2011
6:19 pm
Anyone ever hear of “trustifarians?”
independent thinker
December 31st, 2011
9:19 am
Newt is so desperate that he thinks that crying will get him votes. I guess this is a GOP speaker of the house trademark- just like Boehner. I hear next he is going to beg his ex-wives for forgiveness.