On state DNR board, no future for a ‘green conservative’
Warren Budd, the vice chairman of the state Board of Natural Resources, calls himself a “green conservative” and claims there are a lot of people like him.
A lifelong active Republican, the insurance agent from Newnan is also an avid outdoorsman. “I care about conservation, and I care about this state,” he said in an interview last week. “I represent the average guy who likes to fish and hunt. This is a beautiful state, and I like to think that there will be something of it left for our grandchildren to enjoy.”
However, even though he was in line to become chair of the 18-member DNR board next year, Budd has been informed that he will not be reappointed when his seven-year term ends on Jan. 1. According to Budd, a “green conservative” point of view is no longer welcome by Gov. Nathan Deal, who wants no dissent from a pro-development agenda that favors special interests.
“”They are very into message-control,” Budd said. “They don’t want board members to act like a board.”
Budd acknowledges that as a DNR board member, he pushed the state Environmental Protection Division to move more aggressively in dealing with a major fishkill on the Ogeechee River in May. Tens of thousands of fish were killed along an 80-mile stretch of river, and an investigation traced the cause back to King America Finishing, a textile plant that had been dumping flame-retardant chemicals into the river for as long as five years, undetected and without a permit.
In the end, the company agreed to spend $1 million on environmental projects in the Ogeechee watershed, a small price to pay considering the nature of its violation and the fact it could have been fined more than $90 million. The settlement was strongly criticized by environmentalists, outdoorsmen and civic leaders in the Ogeechee watershed as too lenient.
“We talk about protecting business, but I talked to one bait-shop owner whose business was down 70 percent because of that fishkill,” Budd said. “He’s a businessman too, and he wasn’t alone. A lot of people who make their living off that river were hurt.”
According to Budd, the DNR board has been told it can no longer elect its own officers, and instead those officers will be named by the governor. Deal’s top spokesman, Brian Robinson, says that the board remains free to elect its own officers, but that “several board members have asked the governor for his opinion.” According to Robinson, the governor wants to appoint board members “who are excited team players ready to carry out his agenda for our state.”
“Some are reappointments, some fill openings and some are replacements,” Robinson said. “It’s part of the process. It allows new blood, new ideas and new people a chance to serve the state on a volunteer basis. If anyone on any board considers himself indispensable, this is what educators call a ‘teachable moment.’ It takes an eyebrow-raising amount of self-regard for someone to suggest publicly that, out of 10 million Georgians, only he or she brings a diverse viewpoint to a board.”
While Budd is complimentary to his fellow DNR board members, the truth is that the 18-member panel charged with protecting the state’s environment has long been dominated by developers, real estate interests and business people, with conservationists and environmentalists all but excluded.
For example, Aaron McWhorter, appointed to the board by Deal in May, sells “mitigation credits” that allow wetlands to be destroyed for construction projects, housing developments and, just by happenstance, major reservoir projects. Budd, on the other hand, has expressed doubts about the governor’s plan to build major new reservoirs in north Georgia, noting that such projects destroy miles of streams and rivers. And he believes that the decision not to reappoint him means that such sentiments will no longer be tolerated.
“Governor [Zell] Miller, [Roy] Barnes and [Sonny] Perdue all had diverse boards,” Budd said. “Moving toward a monolithic board is not healthy in a state of 10 million people with all of these competing interests.”
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USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:23 am
kayaker – “And BTW, her suite at the Four Seasons is only costing 10K/night. All in all, with plane fare and all, plus her entourage, it should cost about as much as Bozo’s digs in Kailua….. a cool 4M. Ah, but these overworked, over stressed politicos need their rest, now don’t they?”
considering she’s paying for it and it supports the local economy (as well as the national economy), good for her! Me, all I can afford is the occasional high tea or cocktail at the Four Seasons.
as far as her wealth, she and her hub own property as well as stocks –
again, she is willing to stump up and pay .. which is more than can be said for the GOP
josef
December 28th, 2011
11:24 am
getalife
“Let’s say a grand per post?”
Let’s go for 10 cents a word… some of us could use the cash…
getalife
December 28th, 2011
11:26 am
“Let’s go for 10 cents a word… some of us could use the cash…”
Nah, doomy is already long in the tooth.
How about a hundred a post because a dad is wondering where are the jobs?
Adam
December 28th, 2011
11:27 am
A dad: BTW. all you serial repeat bloggers, don’t you have jobs?
Yes. I’m doing it now. There’s this thing called “multi-tasking” and the concept that I am allowed to do this at the same time as other work so long as it doesn’t affect my performance.
Not that you REALLY needed to know any of that, but since you are a step away from signing up with the “lives in mom’s basement collecting Soros checks and welfare and food stamps” crowd, I figured I would say this, AGAIN.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
11:28 am
“So why do think the people of Georgia keep voting for corrupt money-grubbers who protect polluters instead of those who would prosecute them to a more effective extent?”- Matti
Matti,
Heck we really don’t have much of a choice. Look at last election. Both Deal and Barnes are crooks. Deal looks like he’s owned by various business interests and Barnes is owned by trial lawyers. And both parties are owned by various business interests.
“Why do they keep vilifying environmentalists and conservationists”?- Matti
In this case I think Deal is obviously wrong to not include a single person to counter the developer and real estate interests. But I would be wary also of people who are professional environmentalists who don’t have a regular day job. As a college student I worked with one environmentalist group in fundraising. Biggest bunch of crooks I ever saw. I prefer the opinions of everyday citizens who live and use the local streams and rivers over professional agitators. This guy obviously would have been a great panelist and from what I’ve seen the people who give a damn the most are typically hunters,fisherman, kayakers, hikers, people that actually have a stake in things.
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
11:28 am
Serial blogging IS a job.
Granny Godzilla
December 28th, 2011
11:29 am
I see Art Laffer is endorsing Newt.
Excuse my giggle.
GT
December 28th, 2011
11:29 am
Stevie Ray one last thought, the middle like the sides are mixed with left and right. I believe the right has a tenancy to be more predictable in their answers, more locked stepped if you will. I am in the middle and not a liberal, have voted for both parties. If I paint the right with a board bush it is the nature of the right. There is no question given them that most of us do not know their answer before the question is asked. They pride themselves in this and it may cost Mitt an election because he thinks instead of is a robot. Out of the many candidates he is the only one with a different view.
kayaker 71
December 28th, 2011
11:29 am
USinUK,
If Queen Nancy just spent her money and kept her mouth shut…. but no, she has to rail on and on about those evil monied folks who are not “paying their fair share”….. throwing her support to those OWS protestors who probably never competed in a sports even where someone kept score….. your chief advocate for the little people. If you don’t see the hypocrisy in all of this, you just are not listening.
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
11:30 am
St Simons @ 11:23
josef
That’s where the insider stock tips come into play.
getalife
December 28th, 2011
11:30 am
Soros has billions and he pays Jay so we want our cut Jay.
It would make a dad feel better about us having jobs.
Adam
December 28th, 2011
11:31 am
Still waiting on that link or some other proof aside from assertion that OWS called the rich “evil” multiple times in multiple speeches.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:33 am
“If Queen Nancy just spent her money and kept her mouth shut”
like all wimmen should …
as far as supporting Occupy Wall Street, here is her quote: “”I support the message to the establishment, whether it’s Wall Street or the political establishment and the rest, that change has to happen,” said Pelosi in an exclusive interview with ABC News “This Week” anchor Christiane Amanpour. “We cannot continue in a way this is not relevant to their lives.” ”
now, unless you can use your super-powers of nuttiness to see where she called rich people “evil”, no, I don’t see any hypocrisy here.
as far as never competing in sports events where someone kept score … dude … really??? that’s all you got???
josef
December 28th, 2011
11:34 am
Serial repeat blogger…I like that one!
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:35 am
“BTW. all you serial repeat bloggers, don’t you have jobs?”
let’s see … today I’ve submitted 2 POs, written one proposal, edited one document and am working on another right now …
I’m getting paid for it …
sounds an awful lot like a job to me …
Adam
December 28th, 2011
11:37 am
USinUK: You mean you’re not a mindless robot that cuts yourself off from the entire world to cocoon in a cubicle for exactly the amount of hours per day your company wants you to work? You don’t surrender your phone and any other devices at the door? OH THE HUMANITY.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
11:37 am
“I missed the massive amount of speeches and mentions of the word “evil” in those speeches. Don’t suppose you have a link? The fake anti-Semites don’t count”- Adam
Adam,
You’re right. I’m certain the protesters were calling the 1% the righteous 1%. “Fake anti-semites?”. Oh. Otay. So now you are the arbiter of the difference between legitimate, real anti-semitic speech and the “fake anti-semites”. So glad to know we have an expert like you to make the fine distinction between real and fake anti-semitic rantings. Sometimes I think you can singlehandedly redefine crazy all by yourself.
Real Scootter
December 28th, 2011
11:38 am
Adam
December 28th, 2011
11:31 am
WARNING! You may not want to hold your breath on that one.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
11:39 am
“BTW. all you serial repeat bloggers, don’t you have jobs?”
I admit it. I’m taking off until the new year and gonna be a serial repeat blogger- not to mention the bane of the existence of some of the liberals.
Peter
December 28th, 2011
11:39 am
You start with a Liar in Deal….. Not fully reporting his finances before the election, and we get a thief of Georgia in the end.
Please remember this guy was Broke before becoming Governor, his goal will be to use the office to get his finances back on track, and increase his wealth like Sonny Perdue did.
The dumbing down of the education system in Georgia, has its rewards.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:39 am
“You don’t surrender your phone and any other devices at the door? OH THE HUMANITY.”
right now I would just to swap them for a space heater … it’s frickin COLD in the office today!!!
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:41 am
“I’m taking off until the new year”
I thought about doing that, but the mister is in the middle of a big project and has to work, so I thought I might as well, too …
plus, when it’s this cold and yucky out, it’s not like I’m going to spend the day faffing around in the garden – I might as well be in the office …
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
11:43 am
I admit it. I’m taking off until the new year and gonna be a serial repeat blogger- not to mention the bane of the existence of some of the liberals.
You lollygagger!!!!!!!!
josef
December 28th, 2011
11:44 am
A Dad…
Don’t we have jobs? Sounds like bum envy to me!
But, yes, I do have a job…several in fact…it’s just that all but one of them lock me into the screen of the brave new world and, being a schizophrenic gemini, I’m a good multi tasker!
kayaker 71
December 28th, 2011
11:45 am
OK, done with this. Time to go make the heart sweat. US in UK…. if the evil Koch brothers were at the Four Seasons spending money like Queen Nancy, they would be reviled and demonized as examples of the maniacal rich by most people like you. And BTW, Queen Nancy and her husband have enjoyed a whopping 62% rise in their net worth since Bozo took office. Not something usually done in the “greatest economical downturn since the Great Depression”. Looks like they have little to complain about.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:45 am
“You lollygagger!!!!!!!!”
could be worse …
he could be a damned OTTER SCRUBBER!
Adam
December 28th, 2011
11:47 am
kayaker: if the evil Koch brothers
Somewhere in the world, a Freud follower gets his wings….
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2011
11:48 am
USinUK: what is the temperature there. And, is it raining?
josef
December 28th, 2011
11:48 am
Peter,
“The dumbing down of the education system in Georgia, has its rewards”
Whoah, there, Bubba, we can only work with the product we’re sent, and you must have one of those Georgia dumbed down educations…BOW keeps playing you like a marionette…silly boy…
Jack
December 28th, 2011
11:48 am
We need resevoirs. We’ll never get them if it’s left up to the tree huggers.
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
11:49 am
he could be a damned OTTER SCRUBBER!
Yeah, but then he’d have to join the union, and I think Doom’s one of the anti-union dudes.
Titleist101
December 28th, 2011
11:49 am
Going green has never worked, will never work and is a complete waste of time. Capital flows follow rates of return in a capitalist society. Doesn’t matter whether you are liberal or conservative, if it makes economic sense, it will be embraced. If environmental concerns dominate, we will end up like Europe……..nuff said.
Butch Cassidy
December 28th, 2011
11:50 am
What’s up with kayaker 71 and the “wealth envy”? Shouldn’t he be busy pulling himself up by his bootstraps and taking responsibility for his “poor choices” while he works on starting a business?
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:51 am
“And BTW, Queen Nancy and her husband have enjoyed a whopping 62% rise in their net worth since Bozo took office. Not something usually done in the “greatest economical downturn since the Great Depression”. Looks like they have little to complain about.”
it’s called the stock market. And Boehner did mighty well, too (something around 50%, if I remember correctly)
if you HAVEN’T made money in the market (prior to the Euro nuttiness) then, you really need to get another financial advisor
(even WITH the Euro nuttiness, the dow is still up 2000 pts since the beginning of 2010)
http://yhoo.it/vSICWd
as far as the koh brothers, I really don’t care HOW or WHERE they spend their money – as long as it isn’t involved in influencing government. they went to blow it all on red at their local casino or buy $5K jeraboams of champagne, have a ball. I draw the line at buying governors, though.
call me a purist for democracy …
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:53 am
Sooth – well, we saw a little sun today, but it’s supposed to start raining on Friday right through the weekend … now, it’s just damp and a chilly 45
josef
December 28th, 2011
11:54 am
St Simon’s
Noodlin…Unmentionable says too much work, what you think that Big Fish is there for…thank you, u-ne-ga, for the Atlanta Fish Market…beats the hell outta beads and blankets…
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:54 am
Butch – 11:50 – it’s not WEALTH envy – it’s called misogyny …
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2011
11:54 am
“If environmental concerns dominate, we will end up like Europe…”
Or, we could end up like China. What you are looking at are not clouds. That’s air pollution from coal-fired generating plants. Is that what we want?
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
11:55 am
Brocephus,
I was just thinking of the jackass in charge of the painting company poisoning the stream. Instead of the asswhupping I recommended that he get I think a more apt punishment would be to capture a black bear that drinks from the stream he poisoned and put the CEO in a cage match with the bear. That or a pack of rabid coyotes. Or honey badget. We know honey badger don’t give a shiite.
getalife
December 28th, 2011
11:56 am
Yes, I want this blog to be corrupt too.
Bribe us with that evil Soros money Jay.
F. Sinkwich
December 28th, 2011
11:57 am
“If environmental concerns dominate, we will end up like Europe…….”
That is the eco-weenie objective. They use “environmental concerns” as a smokescreen hiding their anti-capitalist intentions.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:57 am
“Or honey badget. We know honey badger don’t give a shiite.”
dammit, Thulsa, that made me snort.
Sinoman
December 28th, 2011
11:57 am
@USinUK quoting the Daily Mail???
oh, yeah … THAT’S a credible source …
TruDat! Toni V is, however, real. So was her sacrifice.
Like domesticated land animals, fish (both farmed and wild-caught) are often killed in their infancy. Can you talk about that?
Some of the deep sea fish people eat like orange roughy can live to be more than 80 years-old. Obviously the nets catching them are completely indiscriminant, so you will get juveniles.
Even cod, which don’t live that long, are not reaching maturity, and yet they keep fishing them at the same pressure level. So the cod caught are smaller and younger to the point where they haven’t had a chance to breed. Then you end up with collapse, like off the Grand Banks 10 years ago where they show no signs of coming back.
The woman is truly EFFED up! She offed her own baby so she could protect baby fish?
WHACKO!
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2011
11:57 am
Take a look at this. Is this what we want?
Peter
December 28th, 2011
11:58 am
josef. Sorry I got a wonderful education in an area of the country that believes education is important.
George Bush must be your hero.he started two unfunded wars, and let wall street walk all over Americans, and did zero for the American Infrastructure….. You go Republican’s show us how to create BIG GOVERNMENT !
Dusty
December 28th, 2011
11:58 am
Did someone suggest that a new blog subject was needed here?
Absolutely! Ever since the robots’ rote revelry first resounded routinely..
But possible new sheets approaching: NEWT STEALS peppermints! CIA INVESTIGATES theft from restaurant bowl! AJC suggests major LARCENY!
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
11:58 am
Sinoman – so what?
seriously – so flipping what? no one MADE her make that decision – it’s just as much her choice as it is the Duggars to over populate.
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2011
11:59 am
Would you like to live here?
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:00 pm
Yes, lets continue filling our oceans with oil spills, our rivers with chemicals and our land with pollution.
It’s only our home planet and they find another one for the wealthy to live on.
Suicidal maniacs.
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:02 pm
That post alone is worth a hundred of Soros money.
Give it up Jay.
Peter
December 28th, 2011
12:02 pm
BETHLEHEM, West Bank (AP) — The annual cleaning of one of Christianity’s holiest churches deteriorated into a brawl between rival clergy Wednesday, as dozens of monks feuding over sacred space at the Church of the Nativity battled each other with brooms until police intervened.
Must be Right wing crazies ! Really this is what Religion is all about isn’t it…. Just another tool, because even the holiest don’t have a clue, and apparently have learned nothing by the man made holy book.
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:02 pm
Peter
And which section would that be?
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2011
12:04 pm
On Dec. 4, a pollution monitor operated by the U.S. embassy in Beijing measured “beyond index” (which maxes at 500 PM2.5).
What you are seeing in this photo is NOT FOG. It is air pollution from coal-fired generating plants.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
12:04 pm
Sooth,
China and Asia in general are a couple of generations behind us not just in scrubber technology for cleaning emissions but also just in giving a damn about environmental damage.
BTW that reminds me of a little health tip I saw in the local news one evening. Many of the farm raised sea life that comes from Asia-China, Vietnam, Indonesia, etc. is heavily tainted with known carcinogens long banned in the U.S. The Asian farmers lace the stock with these chemicals to produce about a 20% higher yield in farm raised catfish, shrimp, and various other farm raised sea products. Only 1% of these stocks are inspected here in the U.S. and turned away so it makes business sense for them to do the spraying and get the extra yield if only 1% of their product is turned away by the FDA. Now I think that is in Georgia and many other states but if I remember correctly I think Alabama inspects every shipment that comes in. I still wouldn’t take a chance on it though. Its wild fish for me or none at all. And no sea products from Asia.
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:05 pm
Peter
FYI that particular brawl has been going on for nearly 2000 years. Didn’t they teach you nuthin’ in that superior education you got…
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
12:05 pm
Doom
That one made me laugh out loud!!!! There’s nothing worse than lauging out loud when you’re supposed to be all serious and stuff. That said, I like the bear idea the most. I’d pay good money to see that!!
Adam
December 28th, 2011
12:06 pm
They use “environmental concerns” as a smokescreen hiding their anti-capitalist intentions.
THE JIG IS UP!
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:07 pm
josef,
Those protesst against those spitting on the American girl.
Are they the Jewish cons?
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2011
12:07 pm
Just imagine if downtown Atlanta looked like this!
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:08 pm
getalife
Not following you, fill me in…
Dusty
December 28th, 2011
12:08 pm
Have we covered catfish or is education on the hook?
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
12:09 pm
“Must be Right wing crazies ! Really this is what Religion is all about isn’t it….”- Peter
Peter,
They are probably just on edge over much more serious concerns such as bombing campaigns against Christian churches in Nigeria, Iraq, coptic Christians in Egypt. In case you haven’t noticed the servants of that peaceful and tolerant religion of Islam are literally trying to exterminate Christianity in the middle East. But go on writing about broomfights between Christians if it makes ya feel better.
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
12:10 pm
Doom
This one came out last month, and it backs your statement quite a bit. I have a friend with connections with GA shrimping, and I avoid imported seafood AND Atlantic seafood.
http://health.yahoo.net/experts/eatthis/5-fish-you-should-throw-back
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:11 pm
josef,
I think they are called ultra orthodox or something like that.
Anyhoo, they have been cursing and spitting on a American girl going to school and they had a protest against them.
I don’t follow their politics and don’t know much about it.
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:11 pm
DUSTY
Don’t know…I think we may have a White Yankee Supremicist amongst us, though!
Dusty
December 28th, 2011
12:12 pm
Josef,
Don’t follow getalife. They keep the doors locked in that place.
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
12:12 pm
Have we covered catfish or is education on the hook?
If it’s domestic, farm-raised catfish, then I think it’s ok for the most part. If it comes from a river or Asia, I wouldn’t eat it unless I wanted to become a member of X-Men.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
12:12 pm
Sooth,
Air quality in the U.S. in the 40s through the 60s used to look really bad although probably never as bad as China. Go back and look at some pics of the skylines of cities such as ATL, Birmingham, and Pittsburgh from the 60s and you will see huge black clouds of pollution over many industrial cities. The new EPA regulations of the 70s and beyond have made our water and air quality the cleanest its been in decades despite increased economic production.
GT
December 28th, 2011
12:12 pm
kayaker 71 where you miss the boat is thinking the 99 are after the 1% that have money. What is bluntly clear is a good percentage of that 1% have done nothing to deserve that money. They have rigged the game. Crimes go uncontested. A poor minority can go to jail easier for stealing a banana than those in the 1% for stealing millions or just not producing what they are paid to produce kind of the same thing. I was reading the other day a argument on why the economy is not in inflation with the printing of so much money. The answer from the right was that circulation of this new money is so slow it does not allow the laws of economics to take effect. And why is the circulation so slow? Because the rich have taken it out of play like a private central bank. Laws of economics do not work when new components are introduced into the theories. Up to a decade or so ago this private reservoir of money didn’t exist.
If Steve Jobs were still alive you would find he as a creative and talented person would be by nature pouring his money back into the economy with fresh and productive ideas. You will find the Madoffs of the world who have no productivity have a tenancy to sit on their money which humorously makes laundering it much more efficient. The world Madoff served were widows and retired people of little productivity demanding a return ,and as evidence showed, had little knowledge of where their money went. This is where unearned bonuses come from, not far from the structure of Madoff. Eventually if the economy is working right someone is punished for none productivity. In this case it is the 99%. The 1% hoard it cash because it is afraid of the schemers, the overvalued stocks, and since they have no ability on their own to create. They keep it from the real economic machine of this country the middle class, we all suffer. Taxing the rich at least puts some of this money back into circulation. The way it is now a rich family is better off putting the money in a cave and never coming out of that cave in a lifetime. These are relative new conditions and certainly are not designed for the conservative antiqued thinking of the populist movement.
Peter
December 28th, 2011
12:13 pm
Thulsa Doom. gee I guess if there was any respect shown to the birthplace of Jesus, I would believe religion had real meaning.
But religion does have meaning, of course it depends on what you use it for.
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:13 pm
getalife
Gotcha! Jewish fruitcakes, they! They have mobilized the Isreli masses, though…would that Christians and Muslims would join them and the Kurds in saying “you’re giving us a bad name!”
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:15 pm
Dusty,
Kyle Wingnut’s blog still on lock down?
Give us some more of that good ole Dusty patriotism.
I am just trying to get some of that Soros bribe money.
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:16 pm
“Jewish fruitcakes, they!”
So they are their cons.
Thanks.
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:19 pm
getalife
Oh, no, that lot makes the cons look sane…! Even the Orthodox have come out swinging on this one…
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:19 pm
FYI, we still don’t eat the seafood from the Gulf.
Just sayin.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
12:19 pm
“Because the rich have taken it out of play like a private central bank”
No. That’s not why inflation has not reared its ugly head. The rich have constantly taken money and parked it on the sidelines whether in munis, CDs, or just parking it in money market funds. It may have been taken out of M1 money supply but generally stays in M2 or M3 money supply. The laws of economics still apply. And the rich have taken money out of M1 circulation plenty of times in history. We can go all the way back to the 1920s to see this.
Dusty
December 28th, 2011
12:19 pm
A White Yankee Supremicist amongst us??? Call the Health Department! Contagion possible!!! Get out the yellow ribbons and isolate that sicko!
0311/1811
December 28th, 2011
12:19 pm
josef:
Your thoughts ?
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=381765
http://www.acpeds.org/
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:22 pm
josef,
More radical than our cons?
Do they think they are the “real Israelis” and want to “get their country back”?
0311/1811
December 28th, 2011
12:23 pm
“THE YEAR OF THE RECALL”
“150+ Recall Elections… 17 States… 84 Officials Ousted”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
People are fed up ……………. just wait til November.
Soothsayer
December 28th, 2011
12:23 pm
When you buy cheap crap from China, someone’s paying the price. These are those people. I want to warn you some of these images may be upsetting to some people.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
12:23 pm
Peter,
Out of the various wars and blood that has been shed in the history of mankind over religion you choose to focus on a broomfight between some Christians and use it to put in a political rant about right wing crazies? I’m just saying if you want to rant about religious zealots and craziness your time would be better spent focusing on the recent Muslim bombings against Christian churches on Christmas day in Nigeria. Or the extermination of coptic Christians in Egypt perhaps or Christians in Iraq.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
12:23 pm
Thulsa – “No. That’s not why inflation has not reared its ugly head”
my god … this is thing #2 we agree on …
Brocephus, hold me … I’m afraid!
Dusty
December 28th, 2011
12:24 pm
Good boy getalife,
Kyle is still on vacation.
Glad you reminded me: ” God bless America, land that I love. Stand beside me and.”.
Sing it, getalife!…..
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
12:24 pm
Brocephus, hold me … I’m afraid!
TaxPayer
December 28th, 2011
12:24 pm
If Nathan Deal had to eat the stuff in Lake Lanier or in the Ogeechee River, I can guarantee you those waters would be the cleanest around. However, I have it on good authority that his fresh food is of the highest quality. It’s a luxury that the 1 percenters can well afford (even if it’s the 99 percenters picking up the tab). As for what your kids get fed in school, well, some things are better left untold.
0311/1811
December 28th, 2011
12:24 pm
“Iran threatens to close Hormuz strait”
Fine …………. we’ll just “close Iran”.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
12:24 pm
getalife,
You’re fine eating seafood from the gulf. Have at it.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
12:26 pm
USinUK,
Our agreements probably won’t last for long. But in the meantime just make sure you’re sitting down and don’t have a gulp of soda or coffee in your mouth when you read a Doomy post.
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:27 pm
doomy,
What is wrong with you?
You are not talking in con speak or con talking points if you will.
Are you chasing that Soros money too?
Lets demand this blog be corrupt too.
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:27 pm
Scout
In relation to the first link (the second one? Not sure what you meant there), I’ve been following this one. Theirs is an Orthodox response and 1) is at odds with the Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist interpretations, and 2) is in reaction to recent moves by the Orthodox themselves to reevaluation the stance. Theirs is a minority viewpoint within the religious Jewish community and, while I disagree with them, is nonetheless within their purview as interpreters of the more conservative elements.
Peter
December 28th, 2011
12:27 pm
Thulsa Doom . I agree Religion is all about a using it for your special purpose, and since there are so many religions, each group uses it for their own gain.
Example…… George Bush used it to attack Iraq.
Folks like Bill Orvis White, use it to put down the less fortunate, and to push a right wing agenda.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
12:28 pm
Thulsa – 12:26 – heehee … I’ll enjoy the detente for the time being
Dusty
December 28th, 2011
12:29 pm
Did someone say FRUITCAKE? Now I’m desperate. Would someone please call Claxton and tell them to start shipping ! Someone came in the night and ate all of mine.
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:29 pm
getalife
“Do they think they are the “real Israelis” and want to “get their country back”?”
No. They are opposed to the concept of the Israeli state. They, do, though, think they are the “real” Jews and it is their perogative and theirs alone to define what that is. They are our Taliban…
Real Scootter
December 28th, 2011
12:29 pm
getalife
December 28th, 2011
12:19 pm
Nothing wrong with Gulf food and I’ve had plenty of it with no ill effects. You sir need to help the economy down ther and eat the food dude.
Thulsa Doom
December 28th, 2011
12:32 pm
Brocephus,
thanks for the link. I hope everyone reads it. I had been eating the albacore tuna anyway but I had forgotten about the high level of mercury in tuna and besides that I thought it was more in Pacific tuna than Atlantic tuna. Tuna is being dangerously overharvested. I’ll read the rest of that link shortly but in addition to tuna I think there are a few other fish- swordfish I know is one, that have high levels of mercury in their fatty tissues.
josef
December 28th, 2011
12:32 pm
PETER
“Folks like Bill Orvis White, use it to put down the less fortunate, and to push a right wing agenda”
And there’s that superior education of yours….you’ve been had, big time. He just keeps rollin’ you in…and, yeah, I’ll admit, he had me, too until I went and read his blog…He’s good at his shtick, no doubt about it…
Willy Shakespeare
December 28th, 2011
12:33 pm
And should this really surprise anyone in our great state of corruption and prostration to the developer, land speculator, and cronies?
0311/1811
December 28th, 2011
12:33 pm
josef:
Thank you.
As to the second one ………… that Pediatrician organization is calling on schools to stay out of the orientation of their students as this can be a confusing time in their lives requiring “expert” help and not that of a teacher or counselor who may be biased.