On state DNR board, no future for a ‘green conservative’
Warren Budd, the vice chairman of the state Board of Natural Resources, calls himself a “green conservative” and claims there are a lot of people like him.
A lifelong active Republican, the insurance agent from Newnan is also an avid outdoorsman. “I care about conservation, and I care about this state,” he said in an interview last week. “I represent the average guy who likes to fish and hunt. This is a beautiful state, and I like to think that there will be something of it left for our grandchildren to enjoy.”
However, even though he was in line to become chair of the 18-member DNR board next year, Budd has been informed that he will not be reappointed when his seven-year term ends on Jan. 1. According to Budd, a “green conservative” point of view is no longer welcome by Gov. Nathan Deal, who wants no dissent from a pro-development agenda that favors special interests.
“”They are very into message-control,” Budd said. “They don’t want board members to act like a board.”
Budd acknowledges that as a DNR board member, he pushed the state Environmental Protection Division to move more aggressively in dealing with a major fishkill on the Ogeechee River in May. Tens of thousands of fish were killed along an 80-mile stretch of river, and an investigation traced the cause back to King America Finishing, a textile plant that had been dumping flame-retardant chemicals into the river for as long as five years, undetected and without a permit.
In the end, the company agreed to spend $1 million on environmental projects in the Ogeechee watershed, a small price to pay considering the nature of its violation and the fact it could have been fined more than $90 million. The settlement was strongly criticized by environmentalists, outdoorsmen and civic leaders in the Ogeechee watershed as too lenient.
“We talk about protecting business, but I talked to one bait-shop owner whose business was down 70 percent because of that fishkill,” Budd said. “He’s a businessman too, and he wasn’t alone. A lot of people who make their living off that river were hurt.”
According to Budd, the DNR board has been told it can no longer elect its own officers, and instead those officers will be named by the governor. Deal’s top spokesman, Brian Robinson, says that the board remains free to elect its own officers, but that “several board members have asked the governor for his opinion.” According to Robinson, the governor wants to appoint board members “who are excited team players ready to carry out his agenda for our state.”
“Some are reappointments, some fill openings and some are replacements,” Robinson said. “It’s part of the process. It allows new blood, new ideas and new people a chance to serve the state on a volunteer basis. If anyone on any board considers himself indispensable, this is what educators call a ‘teachable moment.’ It takes an eyebrow-raising amount of self-regard for someone to suggest publicly that, out of 10 million Georgians, only he or she brings a diverse viewpoint to a board.”
While Budd is complimentary to his fellow DNR board members, the truth is that the 18-member panel charged with protecting the state’s environment has long been dominated by developers, real estate interests and business people, with conservationists and environmentalists all but excluded.
For example, Aaron McWhorter, appointed to the board by Deal in May, sells “mitigation credits” that allow wetlands to be destroyed for construction projects, housing developments and, just by happenstance, major reservoir projects. Budd, on the other hand, has expressed doubts about the governor’s plan to build major new reservoirs in north Georgia, noting that such projects destroy miles of streams and rivers. And he believes that the decision not to reappoint him means that such sentiments will no longer be tolerated.
“Governor [Zell] Miller, [Roy] Barnes and [Sonny] Perdue all had diverse boards,” Budd said. “Moving toward a monolithic board is not healthy in a state of 10 million people with all of these competing interests.”
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Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
8:53 am
I highlight the absence of intellectual-clothing among those bureaucrats you admire so.
You’ve obviously got me confused with somebody else. I don’t admire any bureaucrats. I’m more amused by your attempt to separate your lips from the gluteus maximus of those Republicans which you hold in such high esteem. Trying to re-brand yourself as a conservative is pure BS and can easily be proven by your non-appreciation of the current Reagan Democrat in office in DC. Any conservative worth a damn would appreciate the fact that the current POTUS is more of a conservative than GWB.
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
8:57 am
Bro – We might, but we have a hard time getting past our intense dislike for the man. I can appreciate some things he has done, but find myself appreciating him more when he is on vacation not doing anything. I also can’t appreciate other things he has done because they have affected me directly in a negative way. But that is just me.
jconservative
December 28th, 2011
8:58 am
“The fact is that our air and water are cleaner than they were 40 years ago –”
True. And that is due to the efforts of “the enviro-whackos”, in particular, the federal “enviro-whackos”.
Folks if you see the State enviro guys shutting their eyes to a blatant violation, pick up the phone and call the federal enviro guys. They will bring some sense of right/wrong to the situation.
Peter
December 28th, 2011
8:59 am
Bill Orvis White. You don’t sound a bit Christian in your thinking or actions.
You sound like a typical Republican who thinks money is more important then nature.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:00 am
jcons – 8:58 – well said.
Clueless
December 28th, 2011
9:00 am
I realize I’m a little naive, but was Bill Orvis White serious??? 80 miles of river polluted and only 1 million fine? I am a registered Independent, so that means I have no say-so about who gets on the ballot, but don’t the republicans realize that if the planet goes to waste their money wont save them
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 28th, 2011
9:01 am
jcon — well of course that is until there is no EPA….. The state guys also have a harder time with jurisdictional issues when certain acts happen across state lines but we all KNOW that air, water, rain, wind will follow state borders and jurisdictional limits.
Interesting that Rangar there says don’t punish the corporations, punish the factory worker (not even the CEO). Again, corporations are part of the privileged class of “people”
Bruno
December 28th, 2011
9:04 am
Adam–Yesterday you asked me to provide a link to support my statement that “90%” of the media votes Democrat. Don’t have much time this AM, but here’s the first link that popped up:
http://www.mediaresearch.org/SpecialReports/2004/report063004_p1.asp
And here’s a link to show how this affected meda coverage of the last election:
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/08/mccainobama_media_bias.html
What bothers me about the whole thing is that no liberal, especially liberal journalists, will admit this simple truth.
Adam
December 28th, 2011
9:04 am
Clueless: I realize I’m a little naive, but was Bill Orvis White serious???
No he is not serious. He is a very cleverly disguised satirical commenter and blogger.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:05 am
“punish the factory worker (not even the CEO)”
it’s no surprise, really … the factory worker isn’t a “job creator”, therefore is cannon fodder …
GT
December 28th, 2011
9:05 am
the entire group loves stealing the money of those who achieve.
Not So Casual, I wonder who has “stolen” more money. Even with inaccurate accounting, because most crimes on Wall Street go undetected while I hesitate to call a mother trying to feed her children a crime, but lets play by your rules the way they do on Wall Street. We have the usual suspects of Madoff, Enron and MCI. Then we add in the mortgage back security scandal, Countrywide comes to mind, the junk bond scandal, that probably encouraged the more immoral types to enter Wall Street, kick backs to pension funds, inside trading, and first offerings to a select group of customers like undetected kick backs. Then we have the undeserving bonuses, Goldman loss money in the first three quarters of this year, Goldman still allocated $10 billion in the first three quarters of 2011. And while you are burning up your calculator, remember our war on drugs, where we worry about a few billion that fall into the hands of terrorist so much that we spend trillions trying to control that while no one can explain where any of this Wall Street money ends up, but we want that ocean unregulated.
As I look across the landscape of America I see waste lands because of this activity we call Wall Street. Not exactly the productive poster child we advertise. Now when you get though figuring the stolen money in that can of worms, compare it to what we spend to fed some of the poor this has caused, then tell me where you think the danger lies in this country. We are all listening.
BW
December 28th, 2011
9:07 am
Well what do you expect from big government conservatives? Just abolish all the regulatory boards and be done with the farce. Ragnar…absolutely hilarious that you think the plant manager alone is responsible for the dumping as if his superiors did not condone the actions. We have to start thinking about what is most important and how it will be enforced. To think that some sort of body, elected or appointed, is not going to have control is an immature thought. Time to grow up, accept it and act responsibly.
stands for decibels
December 28th, 2011
9:07 am
wow, I’ve seen some sh-tty citations to back up arguments on this comments section in the past, but Bruno’s @ 9.04 might be the most laughably awful to date.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:08 am
Bruno – from your first link: “42 percent – tell pollsters that news coverage of the presidential election has favored Obama, the presumptive Democratic nominee for the White House. Among Republicans, reports Andy Kohut, president of the Pew Research Center, 71 percent say press coverage has been biased toward Obama”
that’s almost laughable … first of all, define “bias”
is reporting that Obama is leading in the polls showing “bias” or is it reporting the facts?
is reporting that a presidential candidate is turning out crowds in the hundreds of thousands in Europe showing “bias” or is it reporting the facts?
so, please – since that article didn’t even bother to define the “bias” it is so desperately trying to prove, don’t assume that we’re going to take it as gospel.
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 28th, 2011
9:10 am
“ready to carry out his agenda for our state”
In respect to King ‘Amerka’ Finishing, i see the ga Republicans agenda is
-pollute Ga’s water supply down here w/deadly chemicals
-fine them less than a weeks profit
-work illegal messicans (not Georgians) to make up the shortfall
-don’t check on it, e-verify or otherwise
heckuva job Ga Republicans, I’d look at this & shake my head & laugh
but its not funny any more and some kids fishing might be poisoned.
We’ll know in a few years if they get cancer – HAHAHAHAHA
you f-ing cons are riot, lemme tell you
stands for decibels
December 28th, 2011
9:12 am
ok, the Petition Project might be the single dumbest citation ever mentioned here, but Bruno’s is close. Very close.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:13 am
dB – 9:12 –
ohsweetjeebus, I forgot about that …
Bruno
December 28th, 2011
9:13 am
so, please – since that article didn’t even bother to define the “bias” it is so desperately trying to prove, don’t assume that we’re going to take it as gospel.
USinUK–If you’ll read a little further along, you’ll come to the meat of the article:
“”As has been the case throughout the general election campaign, coverage of Obama outweighed that of Republican John McCain last week by a significant margin,” Kohut notes: 81 percent of the campaign stories analyzed by the Project for Excellence in Journalism prominently featured the Illinois senator, while 53 percent featured McCain. The media’s sustained focus on the Obama campaign has raised questions about press bias”.
Adam
December 28th, 2011
9:15 am
Bruno: Not finding a 90% figure in either link, and I also am taking the first link with a grain of salt, just fyi.
While media exposure in 2008 was one metric, 2010 and coverage of the GOP primary are HEAVILY tilted toward the conservative viewpoint as positive in most media outlets, with GOP candidates getting 4 times more positive coverage than Obama, and Obama being the most negatively covered of everyone. This all, of course, comes from a more reputable source than you have presented: Pew Research. Also, my examples are more recent.
2010 midterms: http://www.journalism.org/numbers_report/midterms%E2%80%99_media_mainstays
GOP vs Obama 2011: http://www.journalism.org/analysis_report/cr?src=prc-headline
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
9:16 am
(ir)Rational
It’s all because of personal biases that people choose not to see Obama for the conservative that he truly is. It’s far easier to label him as something seriously liberal when you have a gullible public that doesn’t read and research for themselves.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:16 am
Bruno – 9:13 – hrmmmm …
sounds to me like someone is advocating for the Fairness Doctrine …
and, again, unless you look at the CONTENT of the articles, simply looking at the NUMBER tells you nothing.
stands for decibels
December 28th, 2011
9:17 am
I forgot about that …
you know what I like mostest about that site? the way that the Pee Aitch Dee guy had to write the word “PHYSICS” in a second-grader’s scrawl, in all caps, on the home page’s sample petition.
Donovan
December 28th, 2011
9:18 am
Well, Jay, I see you stirred up all the lefties once again with something that is dear to their little eco hearts.
Although that offending company should have been fined more than a million dollars for screwing up the river, maybe all those Occupy hippies can find work cleaning up the future messes created by all those mean GOP polluters.
Meanwhile, isn’t it refreshing to see that something is being done by cleaning up career board memberships of socialist greeny organizations?
Boy, talk about the reaction of taking away a bone from these eco dogs.
zeke
December 28th, 2011
9:18 am
Diversity- THE MOST OVER USED IRRELEVANT WORD IN THE LANGUAGE! IT MEANS NOTHING! IT DOES NOTHING BUT REDISTRIBUTE! IT DOES NOT HELP OUR ECONOMY OR OUR SOCIETY!
cosby
December 28th, 2011
9:18 am
Yawn, politics again show that common snese does not exist in the USA. How much control should the DNR or any government have, that should be the focus. The DNR will overstep it bounds, always has and always will. While some in the DNR try to do the correct thing, the DNR in itself is an oversealous government organization. Put a uneducated fool in an uniform and watchthem becoming a great authority…DNR, TSA are perfec examples. Deal is a politician bought and paid for, but who did the Dems run against him…another bought and paid for politician…..time for “None of the Above” to appear on the ballot and if none of the above wins, the office stays empty.
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 28th, 2011
9:19 am
7 troll droppings
6 bu..bu..Obamaaaaa’s
on a Ga state DNR thread….how do they feed themselves & remember
to breathe?
Adam
December 28th, 2011
9:20 am
Palin vs Biden graphic
Save the Old Atlanta Prison Farm
December 28th, 2011
9:21 am
Atlanta’s next great park. Larger than Piedmont Park or Grant Park. Already partially developed with two lakes and trails. Owned (and neglegted) by City of Atlanta. In Unicorporated Dekalb County, Inside I-285. http://www.facebook.com/ATLPrisonFarm
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:21 am
speaking of the Clean Water Act and dirty effing hippies …
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/28/143857342/60-years-after-leaving-porpoises-again-play-in-sf-bay?sc=fb&cc=fp
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:22 am
Bro – But in the end, we’re all going to vote based off personal bias. So, to my mind anyway, that is what matters. I’m personally biased against him, I recognize that fact, and try to look past it when I evaluate different policies and stuff. I’ve liked some of what I’ve seen and disliked some.
At the same time, I haven’t been able to find a candidate running that I actually agree with on much of anything. I did one of those survey quizzes to try and help me figure it out, and I didn’t agree with more than 3 issues for any candidate. Kinda begs the question, for me anyway, where’s my candidate?
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:22 am
“7 troll droppings
6 bu..bu..Obamaaaaa’s”
Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive Gooooooooooooooooooooolden Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiings …
TaxPayer
December 28th, 2011
9:22 am
Aquaponics. For those who want to know what’s in their food.
carlosgvv
December 28th, 2011
9:23 am
The news this morning is that all the candidates in Iowa are trying to persuade the voters that they are more conservative than the others. Why aren’t there any candidates telling the voters they are centerist? Why aren’t there any saying they are liberal? When did centerist and liberal become bad things to be? And just exactly what is it that conservatives are trying to conserve?
Adam
December 28th, 2011
9:23 am
Bruno: As a side note, Obama would have gotten 3 to 5 MORE percentage points in the popular vote than he did were it not for racism, a supposedly dead thing in America:
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2011/12/01/study-racial-bias-cost-obama-3-to-5-points-in-2008-election/
(Yes, I know, it’s an opinion article, but it links to the study that you can read for yourself).
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:23 am
USinUK – Do you know four “birds” that could call?
Adam
December 28th, 2011
9:23 am
USinUK @ 9:22a: Oh you are on FIRE today!
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:24 am
USinUK – Also, being on that side of the pond, you probably have a better chance of knowing three French hens too.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:25 am
(ir) – well, with the new Sprint plan, those birds can call their friends and family for free on weekends and weeknights after a certain time …
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:26 am
(ir) – 9:24 – all the French hens have flown back to the continent in protest against David Cameron …
A dad
December 28th, 2011
9:26 am
Man o man, I can’t believe how you libruls don’t see what was happening. By polluting, America King was trying to kill off the downstream oyster industry that makes us have to share Lake Lanier’s water. If there’s no oysters and such in the Gulf, then Hotlanta can have Lanier all to itself. And also, by killing all those fish, King was just making it easier to catch them. Do any of you fish? Don’t you know how hard it can be to get one of them suckers to bite? But if they’re dead and floating belly up, why all you have to do is scoop em up and viola! instant fish fry. Course since them fish are not flame retardant, might have to cook a bit extra long and all.
Yeah, Deal sux. But look at the other choice. Kinda reminds me of upcoming November.
TaxPayer
December 28th, 2011
9:27 am
Free peanut butter for all card-carrying members of the Georgia GOP because the owner knows you won’t hold a grudge and blame him for your own shortcomings. I mean, if you get sick and die from eating something tainted, it’s you own damn fault.
Adam
December 28th, 2011
9:27 am
carlosgvv: But surely they are espousing liberal values somewhere, since the media is all liberal and there’s nothing but liberal bias…
EXCEPT for all the examples I just gave about how CONSERVATIVE media bias is MORE prevalent than liberal media bias now, and I submit it has been that way for some time because of networks just trying to stay away from the charge of “liberal media bias” so they could appeal to conservatives more and more and more and more…..
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:28 am
USinUK – So you’re saying England is cleaner and smells better?
Adam
December 28th, 2011
9:28 am
But if they’re dead and floating belly up, why all you have to do is scoop em up and viola! instant fish fry.
I loves me some contaminated chemical-laden fish fry!
Facts
December 28th, 2011
9:28 am
Obama’s admin stacked with crooked corrupt pos
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/27/mf-global-chief-missing-12b-financial-adviser-epa/
trz
December 28th, 2011
9:30 am
I knew that Nathan Deal — and all like him — would be bad for Georgia as soon as I heard that he was running for governor. He and his friends will destroy this state.
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:30 am
Adam – Dems de best kind! Why Three Ears Johnny, his momma cooks up the best flame-retardant fish!
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
9:32 am
(ir)Rational
I used to be that way, but I remind myself that my personal biases don’t mean jack in the grand scheme of the functioning of this country. I’m only one person, and what I might particularly want may not be good for the country as a whole. I try to look long term and big picture when making those choices, even if it goes against my personal biases.
I loves me some contaminated chemical-laden fish fry!
It’s not contaminated chemical-laden fish, they are simply self-cooking fish.
A dad
December 28th, 2011
9:32 am
Aw shucks now. Y’all stop joshin me and such. I knows you libruls only wants organiks fishes. But you gotta admin, them mercury-flavored tuna steaks back in the 70’s and 80’s was mighty tasty. And heck, after eatin enough of them, why you didn’t even have to use a thermometer to take your temperature if your felt warm.
josef
December 28th, 2011
9:33 am
And hello day crew…
On topic…what I can’t seem to get a handle on is how anyone can call self a conservative and not be a near fanatic on environmental protection. If ever there were an issue that is conservative to the core, that would be it.
BROTHER BILL
Cuzzin JC says to keep on doing his work the way you’re doing it…separates the wheat from the chaff!
A dad
December 28th, 2011
9:34 am
Bro – self cooking fish? remember, they were flame retardant. I think it was more along the line of preserving them for future consumption.
Adam
December 28th, 2011
9:34 am
Brosephus: I’m in favor of superpower inducing radioactive fish.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:35 am
“Obama’s admin stacked with crooked corrupt pos”
that’s all well and good … with the exception that the article you link to didn’t include a connection to Obama …
um.
flail.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:35 am
“I’m in favor of superpower inducing radioactive fish.”
do we REALLY want a catfish version of godzilla???
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:36 am
Bro – I try, but I haven’t had an election since I started voting that I didn’t have to hold my nose when I hit the button. I just haven’t liked anyone all that much. Not past the primaries anyway. Well, I’ll take that back, in 2004, I still liked Bush enough to feel proud about voting for him, so I guess I felt like I had a choice in my first election.
Self-cooking fish – hmmm, think we could market that and sell it to the military? Maybe self-preserving, self-cooking fish. Allowing the soldiers a “fishy” option with their MREs.
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:38 am
Bro – Also, I realize that as a conservative and a 20-something, what I want is WAY more important than what might be best for the country.
Granny Godzilla
December 28th, 2011
9:38 am
Washington Times stacked with crazed moonies.
josef
December 28th, 2011
9:38 am
USinUK
“do we REALLY want a catfish version of godzilla???”
Of course we do….where is Granny G?
ST SIMONS
Been meaning to ask you, what was your take on “Creek Mary’s Blood?”
Mr_B
December 28th, 2011
9:38 am
You reckon that PhD physicist might be this guy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller
A dad
December 28th, 2011
9:39 am
Morning josef. As a conservative, I am in favor of environmental protection. Back in my USN days, I was statione on a tiny island in the Aleutians called Adak. I went for a walk one bright sunny day (we usually got one per year so why waste it) through pristine tundra. It was so unspoiled that it would have been easy to imagine no other human had ever walked there. I got over a hill, and on the other side was a goup of barrels that had been dumped around WWII. The barrels were leaking this bright orange, liquid plastic sunstance that was oozing downhill and slowly disappearing as it was absorbed by the tundra. It’s one of the most wrong things I’ve ever seen.
But the problem is there is no balance between what’s necessary, and going overboard and over-regulating everything. Very little common sense in dealing with the EPA.
Now, back to them fishes….
josef
December 28th, 2011
9:39 am
There she is!
Granny Godzilla
December 28th, 2011
9:41 am
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:35 am
“I’m in favor of superpower inducing radioactive fish.”
do we REALLY want a catfish version of godzilla???
Pardon Me!!!
So you have met Uncle Mr. Limpet. He’s incredible.
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:41 am
USinUK – Haven’t you ever been to the Tennessee Aquarium? We already have Godzilla versions of catfish.
Mr_B
December 28th, 2011
9:41 am
Top of the mornin’ to ya, josef.
Real Scootter
December 28th, 2011
9:42 am
It’s not contaminated chemical-laden fish, they are simply self-cooking fish.
They don’t even have to be self-cooking Bro! They are already pickled.Just fillet and enjoy!
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:43 am
(ir) – I went not long after it opened … I don’t remember the Godzilla-Catfish!
I do, however, remember stopping at Rock City on the way home … oh, yeah, babbee!!!
josef
December 28th, 2011
9:44 am
A DAD
I might agree with you except I have been lucky enough to have known one of the highest ranking bureacrats in the EPA and learned a lot from her (an arch conservative BTW) about the innerworkings and trying to maintain that balance. She d*mned her own more frequently than the tree huggers.
josef
December 28th, 2011
9:48 am
Mr-B
And a fine shalom to you…enjoying your sorry-low-down-good-for-nothing time off courtesy the poor beleagured taxpayers of the State of Georgia?
IR and US
That Tennessee Aquariaum is worth the visit…amazing!
******
Them fishes? Mass produced gefilte fish, imo…bleeeech….
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:49 am
USinUK – They have some mammoth catfish in there. Big enough to dissuade divers from playing in the Tennessee River. Something about a catfish that was around 130 pounds bumping into you underwater didn’t sit well with them. I can’t understand why, I think they’re all just a bunch of chickens.
Rock City was just up the road from home. Went there quite a bit as a child. Fun times.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 28th, 2011
9:50 am
Rock City is just a bunch of rocks…. surely we can develop that into a useful Walmart or something. Thing of the jobs created!
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:53 am
Keep Up – Who wants to drive up that road to get to a Walmart? Seriously? My wife just about had a panic attack going back into Chattanooga.
Mr_B
December 28th, 2011
9:54 am
josef: except for the 80 or so research projects I have to get graded, the (revised) scope and sequence plan for the second semester, the 1st semester final to write, the lesson plans for week 1 of the semester, the bench mark test for the 3rd quarter; yeah, just layin’ back and suckin’ offn’ the guvmint teat.
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
9:54 am
do we REALLY want a catfish version of godzilla???
Imagine how many people you could feed with a few of those.
(ir)Rational
Those fish are the new heating elements for MRE’s.
Real Scooter
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 28th, 2011
9:54 am
irRational…. we can replace that incline railway with a large escalator! Why this bill has now been drafted and passed by the House….why won’t the Senate pass this jobs bill?
josef
December 28th, 2011
9:55 am
Irrational
Speaking of them giant catfish…I had a bud back many moons ago over in Jackson who was an inspector for the state’s dams. The way they initiated newcomers was to send them down without telling them what they were in for…the catfish would find a crevice in the dam and just sit there with mouths open eating the bounty washing down there….huge and monstrous mo-fos. The old timers would act like they had never seen such and tell the newbies they were seeing things and might need to be referred for drug testing!
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:55 am
Keep Up – My obvious point is that houses are needed there. We need more houses, obviously we don’t have enough.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:55 am
“Imagine how many people you could feed with a few of those.”
so THAT was Jesus’s secret!!!
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
9:56 am
josef – your 9:55 just gave me a major case of the heebiejeebies.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 28th, 2011
9:56 am
do we REALLY want a catfish version of godzilla???
Are we already pushing the limits with a granny version of godzilla?
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:57 am
josef – I’ve heard similar stories when it comes to inspecting the bridges and dams around Chattanooga. Always made me laugh as a child. The aquarium ruined that, because then all the newcomers knew what they were getting into.
Granny Godzilla
December 28th, 2011
9:57 am
josef
the zillettes and I saw one of those monster cats out at the old Ross Barnett Reservoir…..it filled the whole damn boat.
so big it was creepy.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 28th, 2011
9:58 am
irRational — you build houses you have to have a Walmart. Okay, compromise…..we just tear down the entire mountain, put is all in that river and then we have plenty of room
Bill Orvis White
December 28th, 2011
9:58 am
@USinUK
The $1M fine is draconian enough on a vulnerable business like this paint company. Why should the paint company have to $pend outrageous sums to clean up what is an honest accident and then have to pay an exhorbitant fine to big gov’t? Why should they go under thus putting hard-working folk out on the streets? You lefties scream out that taxpaying businesses on all levels should allow the gov’t to confiscate our hard-earned dollar$ and redistribute them to lazy deadbeats who NEVER EARNED THOSE DOLLAR$ IN THE FIRST PLACE.
@Keep Up The Good Fight!
Bill Looman III is a friend of mine….We are fellow businessmen who will not hire anyone until this foreign-born anti-colonialist is rightfully out of the Oval Office.
For anyone who is not a business owner on this lefty blog: High taxe$ and high, high regulation stifles job creation, pure and simple. The enviro-whacko movements goal is to make sure that legal and illegal people in this country are on the public dole and view Socialist-Democrat politicians as their personal saviors.
Amen,
Bill
(ir)Rational
December 28th, 2011
9:58 am
USinUK – You may be on to something there. That is the most rational explanation I’ve heard concerning that.
Granny Godzilla
December 28th, 2011
9:58 am
hey hey….I’m sitting right here.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 28th, 2011
10:00 am
So much for the big tent eh?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 28th, 2011
10:00 am
BOW: Bill Looman III is a friend of mine
No surprises there… BTW, after Obama is done in 2016 and we put in the next Dem President….. you still not growing your business?
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
10:01 am
USinner
You can’t tell everybody his secret though. Re josef’s 9:55, that’s why this brother don’t swim anywhere that he can’t see a concrete bottom.
josef
December 28th, 2011
10:01 am
Mr B
I hear ya! We got thrown a new program for math just before break, gotta be ready to implement it the day the kids get back. I may be a linguist, but that thing is written in a language I’ve never studied! Illiterate don’t even begin to describe it! OREP wouldn’t survive the first three pages of some 300. But what the hey, cuddin’ Bubba’s company made a bundle….Oh, yeah, and the workshop for implementation? Scheduled three weeks after its date of implementation…second quarter grades due when we get back. And of course all those scope and sequence lesson plans…the good part is, most of it I can do and sit here and blabber, too…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 28th, 2011
10:02 am
Granny, you’re right….. I forgot to add “with all due respect”, now its okay.
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 28th, 2011
10:02 am
josef – Dee Allen Brown novel or Nightwish song?
Nightwish – Yanni meets Celtic Woman meets my family..haha
the novel? dude, i’m raisin 5 kids & an accting practice, no time
but as to the bigger theme, I disagree with the premise of
“mournful end of an era”. No, it is the beginning of a new great era.
In December 2012. The calendar says so. People like
me & your two-spirit friend poke fun at them (the Older Ones), but
they knew something we don’t. You just watch. It’ll be here soon enough
Brosephus
December 28th, 2011
10:03 am
Why should the paint company have to $pend outrageous sums to clean up what is an honest accident
We have a new leading republogist here. A 5 year honest accident??? Really??? You’re really gonna push that meme??? Honestly???
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
10:05 am
“The $1M fine is draconian enough on a vulnerable business like this paint company.”
given that it is still in business, it is obviously not that vulnerable after paying the fine.
“Why should the paint company have to $pend outrageous sums to clean up what is an honest accident and then have to pay an exhorbitant fine to big gov’t?”
TWO WORDS: PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
“Why should they go under thus putting hard-working folk out on the streets?”
As they haven’t “gone under”, you might want to peddle your crocodile tears elsewhere.
“You lefties scream out that taxpaying businesses on all levels should allow the gov’t to confiscate our hard-earned dollar$ and redistribute them to lazy deadbeats who NEVER EARNED THOSE DOLLAR$ IN THE FIRST PLACE.”
gosh … the military is a bunch of lazy deadbeats??? as are the oil companies, farmers and others that have no problem suckling at the teat of government welfare???
good to know.
godless heathen
December 28th, 2011
10:06 am
Incidents like the American Finishing incident don’t usually happen due to who is sitting on the Board of the DNR. They happen because the regulatory community is focused like a laser beam on trivial things that make no difference. In this case, you have blatant violations occurring over a period of years, undetected by regulators who are pouring over reams and reams of analytical data submitted by the permitees as required by the voluminous permit requirements.
The regulations need to simplified, they need to be refocused on real hazards, not fractions of parts per trillion of obscure compounds, and applied with a healthy dose of common sense.
USinUK
December 28th, 2011
10:06 am
Brocephus – and josef’s brother isn’t the only one … I don’t swim where I can’t see what I’m swimmin with!!!
Bruno
December 28th, 2011
10:10 am
Adam–It might serve you better to actually read some of your links before posting.
2010 midterms
The first link you provided showed that Obama received far, far more coverage than anyone else.
GOP vs Obama 2011:
Your second link claimed that Obama was receiving a disproportionate share of negative coverage compared to the Repub candidates, claiming that Rick Perry has received the most favorable coverage of all. That doesn’t match my experience at all.
(Yes, I know, it’s an opinion article, but it links to the study that you can read for yourself).
In your third link, the “researcher” analyzed Google searches and draw some fantastical conclusion about how racism affected the outcome of last election.. But thank you once again for supporting my earlier point that playing the race card is a staple of the Left.
sounds to me like someone is advocating for the Fairness Doctrine …
No, USinUK, my goal is more meager–to simply get one liberal here to admit that the media in our country is heavily biased toward Democrat candidates. A fool’s errand, I understand……
Doggone/GA
December 28th, 2011
10:10 am
“I don’t swim where I can’t see what I’m swimmin with!!!”
When I was in high school the brother of a friend of mine got his scuba certification and couldn’t wait to go diving, so he got a buddy to take him out on the Ocmulgee River in Macon. Said he wasn’t down there more than a few minutes when a mouth wider than his shoulders loomed up out of the gloom (they call the Ocmulgee the Old Muddy, just so you’ll understand!) He got back in the boat PRONTO!
Adam
December 28th, 2011
10:13 am
Bruno: The first link you provided showed that Obama received far, far more coverage than anyone else.
So? Obama wasn’t running in the midterms. The only relevant parts of that study are everyone who was running.
Your second link claimed that Obama was receiving a disproportionate share of negative coverage compared to the Repub candidates, claiming that Rick Perry has received the most favorable coverage of all. That doesn’t match my experience at all.
Do I really have to tell you why “My personal experience trumps statistics” isn’t valid, AGAIN?
But thank you once again for supporting my earlier point that playing the race card is a staple of the Left.
Do I really have to point out that discussing racism is not the same as pulling the race card, AGAIN?
Adam
December 28th, 2011
10:14 am
In other news: Go Saints!
Joseph
December 28th, 2011
10:15 am
Republicans run the great state of Georgia Jay. Get over it!!! The far left have no place here……