Four top GOP candidates would ban abortion in rape, incest

In November, 58 percent of voters in Mississippi rejected a so-called “personhood amendment,” which stated that human life begins at the moment of fertilization and gave human embryos all of the legal protections of a person. Destroying an embryo by any means would be considered murder.

The amendment would have outlawed abortion even in cases of rape and incest, as well as embryonic stem-cell research. According to personhood backers, it would also affect birth-control methods such as the morning-after pill, the IUD and even the standard birth-control pill, which works by preventing the fertilized embryo from attaching itself to the uterus. As a practical matter, its adoption would also halt in vitro fertilization to help childless couples.

Nonetheless, four of the top five candidates for the Republican nomination — Newt Gingrich, Michele Bachmann, Rick Santorum and Rick Perry — last night publicly committed themselves to the cause of personhood and to the candidate pledge promoted by Personhood USA.

Mitt Romney has ducked the issue, arguing that human life begins at conception but concluding that such decisions should be made at the state rather than federal level. Jon Huntsman has said the personhood movement “goes too far.”

– Jay Bookman

527 comments Add your comment

Doggone/GA

December 28th, 2011
5:52 pm

DDR “The first instance of a 3 week old fetus living outside of the womb will, of course, make the above point moot — until then”

I would amend this to include “without assistance beyond normal care and feeding”

Paul

December 28th, 2011
5:53 pm

AmVet

Where’s Bosch? Another great business opportunity. He could print up a bunch of copies of “Republican Dictionary.” It’d list about a dozen meanings for each word – none of them correct.

He’d make millions.

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
5:54 pm

After three years, my appreciation stops at Obama’s spending habits and financial ignorance.

In that case, it should’ve stopped when he, dumbya, did away with the Clinton Surplus.

(He now wants to raise the debt limit again.)

Reagan raised it several times himself during his tenure — did you think he was financially ignorant too?

But “hate” has not been involved as it obviously was with you and Bush.

Proof please.

Viva la difference!!

Uh oh. Thats french ^^^ You may have to stop eating your “Freedom Fries”…….. :roll:

josef

December 28th, 2011
5:55 pm

DDR

And he smoked and drank!

Dusty

December 28th, 2011
5:56 pm

Poor JOSEF,

I dun filched his good name, be it Mississippi no doubt!

“A rose by any other name, should smell as sweet!”

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
5:57 pm

josef at 5:51 – check out the big brains on teach!!

josef

December 28th, 2011
5:58 pm

DDR

“Viva la difference!!

Uh oh. Thats french”

It’s not EVEN Spanish, much less EVEN French… :-)

AmVet

December 28th, 2011
5:58 pm

Yep, paul, it is pathetic.

That semi-literate bloggers are guilty is only indicative of a MUCH larger problem.

Listen to these supposedly educated buffoons like Newt, Herman, et al, ad nauseum.

They have no respect whatsoever for the meaning or significance of a word, phrase, idiom, etc.

None. War is peace. Cowardice is valor. Lies are truth.

It’s all just neo-con…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDXa4FkAw-4

Dusty

December 28th, 2011
5:59 pm

Debbie,

Read your last post.

Did you really make it through law school?

Proof please.

TaxPayer

December 28th, 2011
6:00 pm

Taxpayer,

Your “appreciation” for President Bush lasted eight long years before President Obama was elected.. After three years, my appreciation stops at Obama’s spending habits and financial ignorance. (He now wants to raise the debt limit again.)

But “hate” has not been involved as it obviously was with you and Bush. Viva la difference!!

Dusty,

My appreciation for GW extends no farther than your appreciation for our President Obama. As for your claim of my hatred, that is clearly your shortcoming, not mine.

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:00 pm

DUSTY

Except the dusty roses…they stank EVEN on ice… :-)

TGT

December 28th, 2011
6:02 pm

So Debbie, you are for banning abortion after the fetus becomes “viable?” If so, then we are making progress.

Imagine that a woman is headed to the hospital to have an abortion. Her car is hit by a man who ran a stop light in his car. Her offspring is killed. In most states, he can be charged with homicide (whether just a few weeks pregnant or many weeks pregnant) . Does that make sense to you?

In the previous example, I forgot to add that the man who hit the woman headed to the hospital just happened to be her doctor – the one scheduled to perform the abortion. In most states, he can still be charged with homicide. Does that still make sense?

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:03 pm

He could print up a bunch of copies of “Republican Dictionary.”

Here are some words found in the Webstater’s edtion of the Republican Dictionary:

Compromise: (verb) When a Republican decides to take money from a “donor” so that he may change his position.

Sentence: During the Fannie/Freddie incident, Newt Gingrich decided to compromise on the issue to the tune of $450,000.

That Black guy

December 28th, 2011
6:05 pm

AmVet

December 28th, 2011
5:49 pm
Paul, the reason I often cite the dictionary is to demonstrate that for many (most?) Republicans, the actual meanings of words are irrelevant.

They have their own dictionary of made up definitions…
____________________________________________________________________

AmVet, it seems that repubs aren’t the only ones that will discard definitions that don’t fit their view…
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Adam

December 28th, 2011
2:43 pm
GT: My favorite attempted usurping of a phrase? “Class warfare.” As though the rich have something to worry about from the poor, and the rich are utterly defenseless against the poor taking their money.

Oh, and the best part? It doesn’t work! Everyone KNOWS that class warfare is when the rich attack the poor, regardless of whatever dictionary definitions they would like to throw up to try to say otherwise (when you’re explaining, you’re losing).

Dusty

December 28th, 2011
6:06 pm

Awww JOSEF,

Does this mean you won’t come out and play any more? I’m gonna tell!!

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:07 pm

So Debbie, you are for banning abortion after the fetus becomes “viable?” If so, then we are making progress.

where did i state that?

TGT

December 28th, 2011
6:07 pm

I would amend this to include “without assistance beyond normal care and feeding”

Sounds like you libs aren’t as clear on those definitions as you claim. So who gets to define “normal care and feeding?”

0311/1811

December 28th, 2011
6:07 pm

To my liberal friends and/or family members:

“Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best
wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible,
low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter
solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of
the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of
your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion
and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice
religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally
successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated
recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year
2012, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of
other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make
America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than
any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere.
Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color,
age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the
wish.”

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:08 pm

DUSTY

First I have to recite kaddish for Cheetah…I know he was Christian, but I’m in an ecumenical mood today…

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:11 pm

dusty: Did you really make it through law school? Proof please.

wanna come over and watch my graduation footage? i’ll pop some popcorn!

Dusty

December 28th, 2011
6:11 pm

TAXPAYER,

Please roll out your old white protest flag and remember the past. You seem to have a selective memory.

I don’t blame you for trying to forget but you really impressed us for eight years.

Viva la difference!! (ersatz!) .

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:13 pm

Sounds like you libs aren’t as clear on those definitions as you claim. So who gets to define “normal care and feeding?”

she wasn’t giving a definition — she was including a statement. Big diference.

Dusty

December 28th, 2011
6:14 pm

Err no thanks, Debbie,

I’ll just stay home and read my diplomas.

Thanks anyway. Don’t choke on the popcorn.

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:15 pm

DUSTY

“Viva la difference!! (ersatz!)”

Five bonus points for that one! :-)

kayaker 71

December 28th, 2011
6:15 pm

Scout, 6:07

Best post of the day.

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:16 pm

well thats too bad dusty. i guess that’s the difference between you and me — you have diplomas and i have degrees. I guess the twain shall never meet……..

TGT

December 28th, 2011
6:16 pm

where did i state that?

Ok then. So even if it is a “viable living human being” as you put it, you’re still okay with killing the child as long as it is still in the womb? If so, how is this not murder?

Dusty

December 28th, 2011
6:17 pm

JOSEF,

Cheetah was Christian? Why did he wear that little black “beenie” all the time? Bald spot or something?

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:17 pm

TGT

Do you have a position on this? If so, what is it? Or are you questioning bloggers like DebbieDoRight because you recognize in them an intellect capable of discerning the issues and you wish to learn from them so you can make a rational decision?

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:19 pm

DUSTY

Didn’t you read his obituary? The beanie…must’ve been Coptic…

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:20 pm

Hey Scout! Welcome back!

How you feeling? Better, I hope.

How do you like Jay’s thread? Imagine, four of the Republican candidates have a more-conservative position than you do on abortion. Who’d have guessed that, eh?

Dusty

December 28th, 2011
6:20 pm

No Debbie,

My diplomas are written degrees, nothing you have to prove on tape.. The writin’ is PURTY.

AmVet

December 28th, 2011
6:21 pm

I really think that the overall desire to make abortion illegal and deadly for the women involved again is NOT motivated by any concern for “murdering” “babies”.

Some may fall for that “explanation”. I do not.

The reason being that the most zealous of the anti-abortionists are very pro-death.

The actual motivation is what it has always been about for them – the control to force people, especially women, to live the way they want them to live. And further to control what others can do with their own bodies and their own lives…

foie groin

December 28th, 2011
6:21 pm

Abort the death penalty and war…

TGT

December 28th, 2011
6:22 pm

I’m pro-life Paul. I’m just trying to get you libs to clarify some things for me.

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:22 pm

TGT: Ok then. So even if it is a “viable living human being” as you put it, you’re still okay with killing the child as long as it is still in the womb? If so, how is this not murder?

I think there is a disconnect here. First let’s go back to the beginning, as you’ll see I was just commenting on an erroneous post that you had made.
======================================

TGT: Abortion advocates frequently focus on the size of the fetus. Why is that relevant?

Debbie: Thats a false claim. I haven’t read anywhere where they “focus on the size of the fetus”. I have read where the focus is on the viability of the fetus living outside the womb. If it can’t “live” outside of the womb, then it is not a viable LIVING human being.

The first instance of a 3 week old fetus living outside of the womb will, of course, make the above point moot — until then…….

===================================

OK so how did we get from there ^^^ to here:

Ok then. So even if it is a “viable living human being” as you put it, you’re still okay with killing the child as long as it is still in the womb? If so, how is this not murder?

Scrape'em All

December 28th, 2011
6:23 pm

Cheetah was Christian? Why did he wear that little black “beenie” all the time? Bald spot or something?

Monkeys need 2 beenies if they’re Christian…

Dusty

December 28th, 2011
6:23 pm

JOSEF,

You are fudging’. Cheetah was neither Coptic nor Egyptian. Tarzan said he was from Mississippi..

foie groin

December 28th, 2011
6:26 pm

rick perry’s brain should be donated to science. he’s done more with less then anyone in human history. either that or texas is ffffuuuccckkkkkuuuuppppp…..

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:26 pm

BEST POST (AND MOST ACCURATE) ON THIS SUBJECT THUS FAR:

The reason being that the most zealous of the anti-abortionists are very pro-death.

The actual motivation is what it has always been about for them – the control to force people, especially women, to live the way they want them to live. And further to control what others can do with their own bodies and their own lives…

Kamchak

December 28th, 2011
6:26 pm

So even if it is a “viable living human being” as you put it, you’re still okay with killing the child as long as it is still in the womb? If so, how is this not murder?

“Murder” is a legal definition.

Abortion is not an illegal procedure.

F. Sinkwich

December 28th, 2011
6:27 pm

Oh good, another abortion blog.

Perhaps Jay could explain what exactly any POTUS could do about abortion one way or another.

Not much if anything.

Kamchak

December 28th, 2011
6:27 pm

Lib ilk alert!

getalife

December 28th, 2011
6:28 pm

Lets let the women choose and call it freedom.

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:29 pm

I’m pro-life Paul. I’m just trying to get you libs to clarify some things for me.

Do you support either of these things: the Death Penalty, War, and/or Eugenics?

If so, if you are truly “pro life” is that very name not a misnomer?

0311/1811

December 28th, 2011
6:30 pm

Paul:

Maybe you remember Ethel Waters who lused to sing at all of the Billy Graham Crusades. What a wonderfully blessed woman used by God to minister to millions !

“Ethel Waters was born in Chester, Pennsylvania on October 31, 1896, as a result of her mother’s rape at age 13″.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Jmu0zG9rE&feature=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethel_Waters

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:31 pm

TGT

What do you mean by pro-life? We’ve a number of bloggers here who take that title yet their views on what it means varies tremendously. In fact, in spite of how you seem to like to lump people into groups, many of the ‘liberal’ and ‘conservative’ bloggers here share pretty much the same view.

So, what do you mean by ‘pro-life’?

F. Sinkwich

December 28th, 2011
6:31 pm

“Texas added far more jobs than any other state in the country in the past five years. The Lone Star State had 10,629,300 non-farm jobs as of November, a gain of 451,100 jobs since the same month in 2006, an analysis of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data by The Business Journals’ On Numbers shows.”

Good job, Gov. Perry!

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:31 pm

USMC

December 28th, 2011
6:31 pm

“Four top GOP candidates would ban abortion in rape, incest”–JAY BOOKMAN

JAY BOOKMAN and President Obama promote KILLING unborn babies! :-)

getalife

December 28th, 2011
6:32 pm

filky,

Well he did ad security for him on the taxpayer’s dime.

Adam

December 28th, 2011
6:33 pm

josef: I know plenty about MS, seeing as I used to live there and my very conservative parents still do.

So I can say what I want, then, right? Since I have some sort of claim? I think that’s ridiculous. Having claim or not having claim makes no difference.

MS is a very conservative state. The fact that they did not pass Personhood is very good, and shows that it was DEFINITELY a bridge too far if even a deep red state won’t pass it.

If you’re really offended, then too bad. It wasn’t my goal to offend you or to say that all or even most of MS are idiots. In fact, I was saying the contrary. So calm down.

F. Sinkwich

December 28th, 2011
6:34 pm

“Lib ilk alert!”

We know you’re here, Kam, you always are.

Thomas

December 28th, 2011
6:34 pm

Oh good an abortoin issue. Maybe tomorrow we can debate evolution.

Nothing here to see- move on.

The Thin Guy

December 28th, 2011
6:35 pm

Certainly I deplore anyone who opposes abortion. The overwhelming majority of aborted fetuses would have grown up to be liberals. And there is nothing this universe needs less than more liberals. Don’t ever let those tree hugging parasites see the sun come up even once.

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:36 pm

I stand corrected. On closer inspection it would appear that Cheetah was not Coptic…

F. Sinkwich

December 28th, 2011
6:36 pm

“filky,

Well he did ad security for him on the taxpayer’s dime.”

WTF does that mean?

Doofus.

bman

December 28th, 2011
6:37 pm

if i have a one week fling with someone and they become prego because of it, am I be held legally responsible for the child? In other words, would I have to pay child support, other $ etc?

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:38 pm

USMC

“JAY BOOKMAN and President Obama promote KILLING unborn babies! :-)

As do the other Republican candidates!

:-)

TGT

December 28th, 2011
6:38 pm

The actual motivation is what it has always been about for them – the control to force people, especially women, to live the way they want them to live. And further to control what others can do with their own bodies and their own lives…

Ah, so I take it that you oppose Obamacare beacuse of the individual mandate?

BTW, you are aware that the unborn child has its own completely unique DNA, and by three weeks the childs heart begins to pump its own blood?

getalife

December 28th, 2011
6:40 pm

perry hired security for his campaign and charged it to the Texas taxpayers filky.

Try to keep up .

0311/1811

December 28th, 2011
6:41 pm

USMC:

Give them a break. The Germans believed Jews were subhumans also.

Adam

December 28th, 2011
6:41 pm

I am always fascinated by the GOP double talk of no abortions, yet once babies are born they must be allowed to die if their parents can’t afford basic necessities. Because they sure don’t want programs like food stamps, public education, and so on. Yet, if ANY of those programs remain and tons of unplanned people are born as a result of no abortion, you’ve just raised an entire generation of the so called “dependent class.”

A dad

December 28th, 2011
6:41 pm

As everyone knows, abortion is a very touchy topic. If it were restricted to cases such as rape and incest, it might be different for some, but definitely not all. I wonder how many have seen that video of the french physician who used to be a staunch proponent of abortion, but he was preforming a procedure and a tiny hand reached out and grabbed his finger. It completely changed his mind, his views, and his life.
As for me, the world is in a sorry enough state as it is. But I can help bu wonder how many Mandela’s, Mother Teresa’s, MLK’s, Mozarts, Ghandi’s, etc. have been aborted in the name of convenience or control of a women’s body. One thing for certain, after an egg is fertilized, there is a unique genetic code/DNA that’s never been seen in the world before, and never will be again. I’m sure I’ll be reviled, especially by our female bloggers, but since the pill, condoms, and other methods of birth control are so readily available, I have to say it irks me that someone could be so lazy about such an important act, i.e., sex, and if things go to the next level, well, it’s just a quick visit to Planned PArenthood, etc. away. The example that sticks in my mind is I once worked with a woman who told me she didn’t want children even though she’d been married for several years, because she was selfish and enjoyed her life as it was. Initially, I thought something was wrong with her, but as time passed I came to admire her decision and she opened my eyes to a differing point of view. Best of all, she and her husband wer responsible enought to take precautions, i.e, the pill and condoms. Shame something that could be so simple, isn’t. So, let me have it folks.

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:42 pm

Hello Scout

Just had a post evaporate. Mentioned she had a wonderful voice and Rev Graham is still doing pretty well. Also noted how his ministry handles finances became a standard – adopted by other ministries, pointedly rejected by others.

But the fun part was, as one of our more noted pro-life bloggers, I’m hoping you’ll engage TGT on this issue. See, when he realizes you say you’re pro-choice, but maybe don’t have the same definition as he does (which he has not yet provided) then it’ll be all kinds of fun to have him label you as pro-choice…. or…. liberal….. or….

ilk!

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:45 pm

ADAM

Just because you “lived there” and your parents still do does not give you laissez passer to throw in that “even” and then shout out MISSISSIPPI. Save it. You could just as easily have said, “Mississippi, a generally conservative state, etc. etc.” But no, you had to do what you did and that speaks volumes about what you know about Mississippi…the state can also come up with some of the most liberal of things as well…

BTW Where in the Magnolia State?

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:46 pm

typo, Scout, should be “when he realizes you say you’re pro-life” and while I gathered you’d understand that from the context, others here aren’t quite so astute.

TaxPayer

December 28th, 2011
6:46 pm

Please roll out your old white protest flag and remember the past. You seem to have a selective memory.

I don’t blame you for trying to forget but you really impressed us for eight years.

Dusty,

I don’t blame you for trying to forget GW and his non-stop failings. After all, GW was by far the worst occupant of the White House evah. And I do take great pleasure in the mere thought of the suffering that you must endure by just thinking about our President Obama and his two terms in the White House. :lol:

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:47 pm

TGT

What does ‘pro-life’ mean? Specifically?

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:48 pm

PAUL

Post evaporate? I’m getting some schitzie stuff here, too…

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:48 pm

BTW, you are aware that the unborn child has its own completely unique DNA, and by three weeks the childs heart begins to pump its own blood?

So does the horse, the dog, the cat, the panda, the whale, and the hamsters. Are they considered “human” too?

TaxPayer

December 28th, 2011
6:48 pm

Those Republican candidates continue to prove that there is no low as far as they are concerned. They’re shovel ready. :lol:

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:49 pm

josef

it’s gotta be the topic…..

F. Sinkwich

December 28th, 2011
6:51 pm

“perry hired security for his campaign and charged it to the Texas taxpayers filky.”

If that’s true and it’s illegal, call the cops, getalife.

It’s your civic duty.

0311/1811

December 28th, 2011
6:52 pm

Paul:

I hear you but just not up for it tonight. How about this instead?

How to get rid of junk mail !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP4abiHdQpc

AmVet

December 28th, 2011
6:53 pm

AmVet
February 8th, 2011
8:38 pm

I fundamentally oppose abortion.

I’ve written this many times.

Especially when used as a means of birth control.

But to me, the cure – making it once again illegal – is worse than the disease. And almost certainly won’t solve the problem, any way.

My 2 cents worth…

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:54 pm

F. Sinkwich

It’s legal. That’s part of the problem. Just like Perry getting to count his years of active duty Air Force time towards his state pension.

In Perry’s mind, it’s legal so it’s no problem. And that view IS the problem.

Guess who made those laws?

josef

December 28th, 2011
6:54 pm

PAUL

The topic…hmmm…maybe the blog G-ds are wondering why EVEN I haven’t said anything on it… :-)

A dad

December 28th, 2011
6:54 pm

Debbie – please tell me you are not seriously placing animals on the same level of human beings. And no, I’m not into animal cruelty. but has a dog created a vaccine that has saved millions of lives, or a horse fought for a bill which granted equal rights to a person of a different color?
Now, as for whales, according to genesis they were the first created. I’ve protested whaling in Japan and Iceland, and also support banning shark fishing.

F. Sinkwich

December 28th, 2011
6:54 pm

CNN:

“Newt Gingrich said Tuesday he wouldn’t vote for Ron Paul if the Texas congressman won the 2012 GOP nomination.”

Big deal, neither would I.

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:55 pm

Scout

Conserve your strength and pick your battles, got it. Get better.

TGT

Hello?

Definition? Please?

Or are you one of those bloggers with no purpose other than to harass other bloggers?

Kamchak

December 28th, 2011
6:55 pm

Just because you “lived there” and your parents still do does not give you laissez passer to throw in that “even” and then shout out MISSISSIPPI.

I believe our host is the one to set the rules here.

bman

December 28th, 2011
6:56 pm

A dad ???

ban shark fishing???? nooooooooooo

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
6:57 pm

Another Webstatar’s Republican Dictionary Word For The Day:

Pro-life: noun. Someone who is for fetuses’ rights but against children’s rights and the rights of women.

Sentence: I was once at a Pro-life seminar before I picketed the “Help For Needy Mother’s & Babies” legislation passage.

A dad

December 28th, 2011
6:58 pm

bman, in the orient, they catch a shark, cut off it’s fins for shark’s fin soup, and toss the reast back. Sharks serve an essential purpose in the ocean in that they eat fish that show any sign of vulnerability, i.e. are sick. Get rid of sharks as is happening in some parts of the world, and a plague could decimate fish populations, coral, etc. And if that happens, it’s the end of all my friend.

Soothsayer

December 28th, 2011
6:59 pm

F. Sinkwich

December 28th, 2011
6:59 pm

” Just like Perry getting to count his years of active duty Air Force time towards his state pension.”

So the state of Texas honors a veteran’s service to our country this way. But lib ilk Paul hates that.

Lib ilks hate vets? Who knew?

Paul

December 28th, 2011
6:59 pm

josef

the G-ds giving thanks to the non-G-ds?

You do have an interesting mind –

F. Sinkwich

Yet just a couple weeks ago Newt said Ron Paul would be better than Obama.

Flip.

Flop.

Flip.

Flop.

Newt’s a sore loser.

Or just a loser.

josef

December 28th, 2011
7:00 pm

K’chak

And yet another silly drive-by…you’re more predictable than I am and that’s saying a lot!

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
7:00 pm

Debbie – please tell me you are not seriously placing animals on the same level of human beings.

Dad it was an EXAMPLE of two like things that have the same basic foundations.

Paul

December 28th, 2011
7:01 pm

F. Sinkwich

So you are okay if a vet gets a job in your state, he has, say, 20 years of service, works in your state government for five years and retires with your state paying him a pension for 25 years service?

You’re not okay with that?

Con ilks hate vets.

That, we knew.

josef

December 28th, 2011
7:01 pm

A Dad

And you don’t noodle ‘em either…just ask St Simon’s

PAUL
I have no mind…just a po ole ignert boy from Mississippi…

Soothsayer

December 28th, 2011
7:02 pm

bman

December 28th, 2011
7:02 pm

Adad … … oh ok. I agree with that. I catch them, but always turn them loose.

Paul

December 28th, 2011
7:02 pm

TGT’s gone absent.

Tells me about the inability of those who make simplistic statements to think them through and clearly articulate them.

Doesn’t speak well for the positions they advocate.

lynnie gal

December 28th, 2011
7:04 pm

Republicans want smaller government, except for women who want to make their own decisions about birth control and abortion. That decision they want made by the government. Oh, and also who you can marry. Oh, and also, whether you get to breathe clean air and drink clean water should be a decision made by corporations, and on and on. The government is “we the people” when we vote. And when votes are counted fairly, not by Diebold voting machines with no paper trail. But I digress…

Paul

December 28th, 2011
7:04 pm

josef

“I have no mind…just a po ole ignert boy from Mississippi…”

Yeah, but can you vote the right way on ballot initiatives? Even if you are from Mississippi?

And if folks from Mississippi aren’t all that sophisticated, then how come they gave their state a name that’s about the only one elementary school kids can spell and have fun doing it?

DebbieDoRight

December 28th, 2011
7:04 pm

Another Webstatar’s Republican Dictionary Word For The Day:

Teacher: (verb and sometimes a noun) A person or thing intent on using its seniority to decimate the american public trust and destroy our children’s education by demanding money in which to live by and/or at least pay their rent.

Sentence: That dang man acts just like a f####ng teacher!!! (verb)

Adam

December 28th, 2011
7:05 pm

josef: It says no such thing about my knowledge of the state which you are asserting I lack. However, “even in MS” may offend you but I meant it the same as “a very conservative state, MS.” So again I say, calm down. Whether or not I have lived there makes little difference to what I was saying.

My parents live in Picayune. I am a Coast Guard brat, though, so that is not exactly my hometown.

AmVet

December 28th, 2011
7:05 pm

“Newt Gingrich said Tuesday he wouldn’t vote for Ron Paul if the Texas congressman won the 2012 GOP nomination.”

Big deal, neither would I.

What Frank conveniently omits is this foot in mouth disease symptom…

“I think Ron Paul’s views are totally outside the mainstream of virtually every decent American,” Gingrich said on CNN’s “The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer.”

So says the GOP’s serial adulterer/arbiter of decency.