Newt stumbles, Obama surges and Ron Paul exposed

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hope you had a very merry Christmas, Jay

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“President Obama is having a good holiday season. His job-approval rating of 47 percent is now higher than his disapproval rating of 45 percent. The test will come in trying to sustain that kind of support.”

From CNBC 8:12 AM: Between 100 and 120 Sears and Kmart stores will be closed, Sears Holdings said Tuesday, after terrible holiday sales during what is the most crucial time of the year for retailers.

Much more of this and the 47% will be back down. It will probably be back down anyway as gallup tends to +- 2 each day.

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And I thought Newt was in the party of personal responsibility! Let the whining continue!

As for Paul, the Washington Post has an interesting article about the lack of legislation he has sponsored and/or had passed based on his time in office.

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embarrassed

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I finally found an article the other day that profiled a number of Iowans that have flipped their support from Trump to Bachmann to Perry to Cain to Gingrich (with some now grudgingly moving to the Romney camp).

The rationalizations go full circle and, ironically, could result in most of them supporting President Obama if he decided to seek the GOP nomination…

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I understand Newt Submitted 11,000 signatures and they couldn’t verify 10,000 of them.

What the hell is that all about?

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Granny .. .. No, I haven’t. In fact, I didn’t even know Kmart was still around. It seems as if I do remember reading something about management at Sears as well as competition.

It doesn’t really matter how they got into the shape they are currently in. It’s about jobs…

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josef

December 26th, 2011
11:21 am
Memo is out. Ron Paul is the new attack flavor. Use the day off to get ready.

Told you.

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And every day more data keeps coming out about how majorities of Americans are tired of wasteful spending and recognize that government is not the answer. PrezBO’s bump is in large measure the success of the recent “payroll tax lie” where he & Democrats (with the help of willing accomplices in the media) shilled the lie that Democrats extending the tax break for TWO MONTHS was doing more for Americans than the already-waiting ONE YEAR bill that PrezBO claimed to want.

Sorry Jay, but you were as much a dishonest shill & liar as PrezBO for parroting the scam.

We’ll see if he continues to win by lying and complete avoidance of his own record. We’ll see if those who happen to share his political views continue to void themselves of integrity by toting water for this administration & perpetuate its lies to the American people.

-SD

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I think it’s fairly obvious to anyone now that Gingrich was never serious about running for president. For him and Cain, this was a publicity tour so he can sell books and speeches.
It comes down to Paul and Romney and anyone else left standing after Super Tuesday.
Paul’s friends and supporters make Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers sound like normal people.
Romney can’t tell the truth about anything or hold a position longer than 12 seconds.
Wow Republicans of 2011-2012, if you are not interested in running, just say so- Obama can take on the Green party and Constitution Party instead.

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It doesn’t really matter how they got into the shape they are currently in.

If anyone is interested in learning how not to do something, then yeah, it really does matter.

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lol Finn … i just did a search for the closest Kmart in my area. Mableton, Ga. – - I live at the Marietta Square. Not too many people see those big red Kmart signs

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With millionaire status now the norm, the rarefied air in the Capitol these days is $100 million. That lofty level appears to have been surpassed by at least 10 members, led by Representative Darrell Issa, a California Republican and former auto alarm magnate who is worth somewhere between $195 million and $700 million. (Because federal law requires lawmakers to disclose their assets only in broad dollar ranges, more precise estimates are impossible.)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45793299/ns/politics-the_new_york_times/

More of my tax dollars being exploited!

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The truly scary thing about Paul. beyond his race-baiting, is his appeal to the younger voters. It’s midnight, do you know where your kids are? If this is the direction we’re headed in the future, we’ve got some serious problems that need addressing now…

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It’s gotta be tough being a Republican right about now. What with so many presidential candidates to choose from and every one of them just as good as the other. Thanks for the holiday present, Republicans.

P.S. Please keep Ron unexposed though. That may be more than any of deserves.

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Ron Pauls Actual Words….

“I think this fence business is designed and may well be used against us and keep us in. In economic turmoil, the people want to leave with their capital. And there’s capital controls and there’s people control. So, every time you think of fence keeping all those bad people out, think about those fences maybe being used against us, keeping us in.”

Sept 2011

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let me translate the virginia thing for you – “holy crap, these rubes are
takin me serious. That’ll ruin the scam.I better screw this up, and fast”

plus, Virginia was getting sick, so Newt asked for a divorce, and then
Virginia wasn’t going to sign anything…

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jesse

which interview.

the one he ran from?

please let us know which you are talking about…linkee?

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Amazing. you site these polls only when convenient. When obama’s levels drop, you simply find a different poll that says something else.

Not intended as a factual statement.

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“At best, Steve Tuggle, Ron Paul was willing to profit by playing to the racist sentiments of others.”

That is basically the livelihood of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

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The main stream media will lie and cheat to get its way.

Aannnnnnnnnnnnnndd I quit reading.

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President Reagan was not a racist either but he used some of the “us against them” ideas to his advantage to get the southern vote just like Ron Paul did. So what if he rejects the color vote. It’s not like they are going to vote for him anyway.

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Tomas

Watched your link.

Yes the inteview was over when Paul was faced with questions he did not want to answer.

He could not face the tough questions and started unwiring himself…

Looks like a swift egress to me.

Not real brave.

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Mike Parent

Perception.

I see a guy afraid to answer and ripping off his mic and getting outa’ dodge.

Badgering racists is a good thing.

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How is he gonna accomplish that should he succeed to the Oval Office?

Frankly, that’s about as legitimate a worry as oh, say, whether your flying unicorn’s landing gear can handle the Hartsfield-Jackson runway surface.

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Groups battle sex trafficking in Atlanta

I see a lot of traffic on my way to work and home but I never seem to run into this sex traffic. What side of town is that traffic on?

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Ron Paul wants environmental issues to be solved with property rights. That little bit of insanity alone should keep him from being president, even if he wasn’t a blatant bigot.

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The only people exposed are the Mainstream Media, who have been exposed as shills for the welfare/warfare state. How can you mention newsletters written by a ghost writer and not mention that the head of the Austin NAACP came out in support of Ron Paul, or that he has the highest support among non-whites in the GOP, or that he would end the racist Drug War? Of course, it is the same reason you shills question his foreign policy views as “isolationist” but fail to mention that his support among active duty military smashes EVERY other candidate including Obama.

Go screw yourselves.

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http://www.counterfeitcandidate.com

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“Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks three days after rioting began. … What if the checks had never arrived? No doubt the blacks would have fully privatized the welfare state through continued looting. But they were paid off and the violence subsided.”

– Ron Paul
Describing 1992 Los Angeles Riots

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Pelosi Spends Christmas at Posh Hawaiian Hotel

Published : Tuesday, 27 Dec 2011, 7:10 AM MST

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was not dreaming of a white Christmas.

For the third year in a row, the California Democrat shacked up in a sun-drenched, beachside hotel at Historic Ka’upulehu in Kona on the island of Hawaii, the Hawaii Reporter reported this week. For the past two years, Pelosi reserved a posh suite that fetches $10,000 a night.

The Four Seasons Resort Hualalai offers visitors beachfront dining, fashion boutiques and Jack Nicklaus signature golf, the paper reported. In years past, the paper reported, local taxpayers coughed up $34,000 for police detail to escort Pelosi around the island.

President Obama and his family are also spending the holidays at the tropical paradise during a 17-day vacation in Kailua, Oahu.

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Its kind of funny how this blog has the most misleading title i have read yet. You start off with “Ron Paul exposed” and then continue to talk about racial remarks made in a newsletter from the 80’s which has already been disproved that it did not come from Paul, but instead one of the workers at the newsletters.

Nice try.

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If you’re poor, or if you can’t get a job…you’re lazy and it’s your own stinkin’ fault. If you can’t get on the ballot in your own state or if you experience political backlash over racist statements you made in a newsletter than made you a ton of money, it is everyone else’s fault but your own, and somebody else better fix the system fast before you get angry.

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Jay, you are worried about racist statements from Paul while our president spent Christmas in another country?
Oh ma Gawd!

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What part was “idiotic”?

The part about the fact that the House had already passed a 1 year extension. The part about the Senate saying they had “wanted a 1 year extension”, but could only pass a 2 month extension, adjourning for the year demanding passage of their bill, refusing to confer. The part of PrezBO blaming Republicans who’d already passed an extension they claimed to want.

Or the part of shills like Jay and fellow media liberals who parroted this sham that they knew was a lie.

The idiotic part is really that so many Americans have fell for the lies of dependency and redistribution which empowers proponents of the failed philosophy to hold power.

-SD

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Who was the one big Paul supporter we had and is he all the new ron supporters today?

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I am confused…is an 11% unemployment rate reason to celebrate?

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Everybody lies except SwamiDave. He’s a righteous dude dontcha know?

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The 1% – “For the third year in a row, the California Democrat shacked up in a sun-drenched, beachside hotel at Historic Ka’upulehu in Kona on the island of Hawaii, the Hawaii Reporter reported this week. For the past two years, Pelosi reserved a posh suite that fetches $10,000 a night.”

To qoute from the Republican handbook (which by the way is supported an a regular basis by many on this site). Stop with the wealth envy, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, stop hating successful people and go open a business, stop punishing success, stop hating people who made “good choices”, stop with the class warfare, don’t blame others for your “bad choices”, take responsibility, work harder, get a job, etc, etc, etc………

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I don’t think Paul does a very good job articulating his points, but I support him. I just find it hilarious that the liberal media, democrats, and administration have nothing to defend themsleves against Paul except a newsletter that was printed 20 something years ago with supposedly racist comments.

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TimeForRealChange,

Is it scary living inside your head? Sounds like it.

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Oh dear, while Kyle’s away, I’m here to play.

But I am so concerned about President Obama. He’s plunging right into those big waves in Hawaii and having to do it for a whole week. Besides, having to put up with a snooty, ritzy hotel for a long week and mind the kiddies and Michele and all that. And Nancy Pelosi next door! Poor guy!!

Anyway, I’m sure someone will dust the Oval Office while he’s gone. He doesn’t use it much but somebody’s got to do it.

Yes, Virgina, there is a Santa Claus and he carries the Prez to Hawaii every Christmas. So I want to thank Santa and the taxpayers for their good work. Yep, Hawaii is a fine place for the president. Just think, it won’t be long before he can stay there year ’round. Let the good times roll!

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Newt not getting on the Virginia Ballot was in his book. In chapter 3 titled, “How to properly court a woman when you are still married”

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If he is elected President, will the U.S. reman in tact….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03Q4s-LeBgs

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Dusty,
Hittin’ the ‘nog this mornin’?

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tony – “Paul is not a person who should be President.”

Only if your a minority, gay or a healthy 30 year old male without health insurance.

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Finn McCool – “Yeah, sounds like a winner to me.”

What did you expect, they’re running out of candidates.

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Not really a ringing endorsement when less than half the country thinks your doing a good job.

Of course if you consider how everyone else is doing you only have to be on an ant hill to be King of the Hill.

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Ron Paul wrote: “Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressmen (sic). What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it: We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.”

What a turd-fondler.

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yeah – Ron Paul voted AGAINST his own misnamed “audit the Fed” bill – (the Fed had been audited by Deloitte for decades). I suspect that was his only legislation that ever passed since it was in Dodd-Frank.

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His first bill was introduced just 11 days after he arrived on Capitol Hill in 1976. It would have repealed the law that had created the Occupational Safety and Health Administration six years earlier. It didn’t get out of committee.

OSHA protects workers. That’s a very bad thing isn’t it?

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No, actually, Ron paul’s only passing bill was this:
The passage of H.R. 2121, in fall 2009, unfolded without drama. It allowed for the sale of a customhouse in Galveston, Tex. The House debate took two minutes, and the vote took eight seconds. The ayes had it.

Powerful legislation that.

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Lots of posts about Ron Paul. It may be an interesting topic to some, but he’s not a serious contender to see it through to the nomination.

Gingrich thought he was, Just like he thought he never had a chance (else why was his organization so lacking?) and was shocked when he rose, ever so briefly, to the top. He’s the story – bombast and bluster giving him a boost, only to be sunk by the reality of his own ego.

Yup, it’s Romney vs Obama. I hope we get away from the nomination pandering and on to a clear, honest, ‘this is what I really think’ discussion of the issues in the campaign.

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The title of this comment is “The Jay Bookman Comment”. Now if I say racist things on here, in your name, should it haunt you for the rest of your career? Is it really so hard to believe that a doctor (who had the only OB/GYN practice in his entire county) could be too busy to read every article in a newsletter written in his name? Do you read every single comment on every article you write? Should he be judged by the newsletters or by everything he’s ever written or said, and every vote he’s ever taken? He’s still at the top of the polls and climbing. The people will not fall for this nonsense.

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If you don’t like things like a long life expectancy, vote RON PAUL!

Because living longer is socialist.

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Swami,

“What part was “idiotic”?”

And you call yourself “Swami”?

The House bill was loaded with poison, like the Keystone Pipleline and cuts to unemployment from 99 to 50 weeks. And the best part? The Repugs in the Senate blocked it from a vote.

Then Boner asked Reid, Obama, and McConnell to work out a short term bill. They did, then the boner didn’t want to allow a vote until his grapes were in a vice. Educate yourself instead of spouting the pathetic “canned” talking points your fed each and every day by the right.

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repeal the federal law banning guns in school zones

seriously?
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Yeah, let’s arm the little kiddies with Uzis. oh, wait, those are made in Israel . . . .

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Paul .. .. I agree. I think it’s Obama vs Romney, too. Then again, just 2 weeks ago, I thought Gingrich would get the nomination. Despite what people say, Gingrich does do good in debates. It’s just that he is disliked by, it seems, everyone lol

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“Why do you insist that it shouldn’t matter because it was 20 years ago? Is there a statute of limitations on racism?”

It doesn’t appear to be a repeating part of his life. Now Obama sat in Rev Wrights church for 20 years. That is a pattern I would take into consideration.

Oh yeah, remember Sen Rober Byrd of West Virginia. Yeah he was in the KKK and help leadership positions in the klan. That didn’t stop democrats from electing him for decades so…whatever.

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I will vote for Ron Paul in our open primary in Georgia. The GOP needs a little shake up. Romney is the same old empty headed Republican with no ideas.

I would never vote for Ron Paul in the general, of course. His view of economics is naive – his economic team would focus on inflation in a giant contraction. They have been wrong on inflation since early 2009.

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Morning, AmVet

Found a bit of interesting family history over the holiday. Had a great-grandfather who owned an oil pumping operation in Pennsylvania. Was bought out by Rockefeller and returned to Sweden. Those who didn’t sell out – Rockefeller drove the crude prices way, way down and bankrupted the holdouts. Rather like the way Mongols spread west – cooperate, you’ll live. Resist, you die.

Anyhow, the off-topic point of this is, when I heard the tale I thought of so many of our free-market, get government out of business, kill regulations blogging buddies. See, if they’d have had their way, Rockefeller could’ve had a total monopoly of crude pumping, refining, distribution and sales here in the US of A. Then we could have gas at, oh, $8 a gallon and Rockefeller would be the top .0001 percent of the 1 per centers.

But our blogging buddies’ dream didn’t come true and the evil government actually got in Rockefeller’s way.

No wonder they’re in such ill sorts all the time.

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The statements in the newsletters were not racist. They were criticisms of black violence (the L.A. riots) gangs, carjackers and the system of institutional social dependency even though blacks of been given every luxury to succeed. It is an indictment of double racial standards in America.
A society where 85% are born to one parent or murder being the leading cause of death amongst black men 18 to 35. Since the 1960’s blacks have seen their society fall apart. You would think with all the so called government help it would be different. Black society has be afforded ever luxury. Maybe we should take some away and force it to stand on its own two legs. Let us not forget the double standards whites live with in dealing and talking about blacks. BLACK SOCIETY HAS BECOME EXTREMELY VIOLENT SINCE THE 1960’s. This is because of the “war on drugs” and who wants to end that.
Really criticizing the Bloods and Crips who made a fad of carjacking whites in the early 1990’s.
I lived in the ghetto and I never sees all you white people critical of Ron Paul there. except maybe to recruit from us fleet footed blacks. It is a sad day when THE RACE BAITERS like al sharpton and other dare call Ron Paul a racist. I also never knew being of MLK was racist. Besides he was of repeating what FBI surveillance found.
This is from his so-called racist newsletter or which there are a number similar. they were really cherry picked by race baiters:
” Last year hundreds of Americans died
‘liberating ‘ Kuwait, and now we are getting more information about what they died for Foreign embassies in Kuwait are crowded with slaves–yes, slaves–who used wartime confusion to escape from their rich Kuwaiti masters.

The British government documented more than 1,000 cases of Filipino, Bangladeshis, and West Africans held in bondage by the ruling Kuwaiti tribe.
“Note the irony of Black Americans risking their live to return Kuwaiti slave owners to power.
Shame on you people.

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Wow.. Just more media hypocrisy here. Educate yourselves on the history of our Nation, educate yourself on the history of Central Banking in Europe.

Then, when your eyes are finally open, you will see Ron Paul’s newsletter for what it truly is. A piece of paper written over 20 years ago.

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The free market, racism, and the direction our young want to take the future, as indicated by their support of Ron Paul.

Learning from the past – to redirect the future, for the better. Doing my small part (sharing my past memories – from firsthand experiences – which go back decades).

From “MaryElizabethSings,” Dec. 23rd:
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“One example of how the free market failed to promote an egalitarian spirit among all people occurred during the Civil Rights Movement during the 1960s in Atlanta. Businessman Lester Maddox, who later became Georgia’s governor, refused to allow African-Americans to enter his privately-owned restaurant for a meal. Maddox even brandished a handgun at the door of his restaurant to make certain that all understood his position. The U. S. government, through a three-judge circuit court in Atlanta, had to intervene and declare that Maddox was wrong because all citizens, being equal under the U. S. Constitution and the laws of our government, had equal right of access to his restaurant (as well as to all businesses which were patroned by the general public, which the U. S. Supreme Court later reconfirmed).

In my opinion, a more spiritually-evolved business owner would not have taken Maddox’s position, whatever current norms were being lived out in his time and place.The U. S. Constitution – stretching its power and wisdom from the minds and spirits of our founders over the centuries – was the only force through which Lester Maddox was made to practice egalitarian principles toward African-Americans in his business operations. America’s Founding Fathers had insured that that justice would happen when those in the private market place, such as Maddox, refused to practice simple humanity toward all others. That example was government operating at its spiritual best by insuring equal justice for all.

Post Script: Unable to win his case, Lester Maddox became a martyr to segregationist advocates by selling the restaurant to employees rather than agreeing to serve black customers. He was later elected Governor of Georgia.”
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“Capitalism and Egalitarianism” from “Mary Elizabeth Sings”:

http://maryelizabethsings.wordpress.com/2011/12/08/egalitarianism-and-capitalism/

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It doesn’t apply to be a repeating part of his life. Now Obama sat in Rev Wrights church for 20 years. That is a pattern I would take into consideration.

Did Obama own the church? Did Obama distance himself from Rev Wright?

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And btw, “whack-a-doodle libertarian” applies mostly to the crazy and most vocal of libertarians, who really believe all the above stuff. If you are a libertarian that does NOT believe the free market solves all ills and charities and neighbors will save us all, then I’m not talking about you.

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It doesn’t apply to be a repeating part of his life. Now Obama sat in Rev Wrights church for 20 years. That is a pattern I would take into consideration.

What is the pattern to which you are referring? A total of maybe 2 sermons over 20 years?

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Oppps, my comments regarding Romney should not be interpreted as support for him…he does certainly have history of flip-flopping, and represents business as usual…Two crappy options as usual…when will it end? Anyone….Beuhler…

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Stevie Ray: I recall we elected Clinton despite his history of womanizing

And this equates to changing your position on every single issue… how exactly?

I wonder when people will get over trying to run the sex lives of everyone running for office, everyone in the public eye like celebrities, and/or everyone they know like their neighbors?

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wow, i didn’t know all this about Ron Paul. He may be nuttier than Bachman.

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In 1992, Ron Paul wote the following in one of his newsletters:

“An ex-cop I know advises that if you have to use a gun on a youth, you should leave the scene immediately, disposing of the wiped off gun as soon as possible. Such a gun cannot, of course, be registered to you, but one bought privately (through the classifieds, for example).”

Do you really want this person to be president?

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Do you really want this person to be president?

I want him to run as a third party candidate in order to kill any chance of a Republican getting in.

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Ez to figure- Obies on vacation (again) i approve of that ( even though it costs a bloody fortune).

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Preacher Wright was and is one of the leading voices of liberation theology…read him…his comments that made the news are nothing new…

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a dad

” Look at Great Britain in the 70’s as an example of what Obamaeconomics will cause.”

Oh? Really?

Bet you got a doozy of an explanation why.

Can’t wait to read that.

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The Republican establishment desperately wants Newt off as many ballots as possible to allow Romney to win the nomination. The reason is, they know he’s their best chance to beat Obama in November. They will go so far as to repress the votes of Republicans who don’t know better and try to vote Newt. Voter repression is a favorite tool of Republicans this cycle. All across the country, Republicans are invalidating student ID’s and making it difficult for minorities to get the photo ID they need to vote. As Republicans attempt to tighten voter requirements, they may be squeezing their own voters as well–something they may not have considered.

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Granny Godzilla-
Go to YouTube and search Ron Paul racist news letter and watch the wolf blitzed interview in 2008. Ron Paul has apologised and has disavowed those statements. In fact Ron Paul is the only candidate you will hear of refer to the war on drugs as the new form of slavery. Because the war on drugs specifically targets blacks!!! Ron Paul has been the biggest critic of the war on drugs. Also, if Ron Paul is such a racist then why does he have the most black support of any republican candidate??? How could you be black and hate yourself?? The reason he left that reporter during that interview is because he has been asked the question 1000 billion f ing times!!!!!! How many times does one person have to answer the same question??? He said that he didn’t write, doesn’t believe in it, apologies for his negligence in management of the newsletter, and disavows any racial or homophobic statements in the newsletters. Go on YouTube search Ron Paul racist newsletters. He has been on CNN, msnbc, and fox news multiple times to address this issue Years and years before that CNN interview. The 2008 interview with blitzer is the best. That’s why he walked out!!! Because it’s old news!!! He has already addressed it…

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Oh my goodness, Mary Elizabeth SINGS!

Give that lady a fried chicken drum stick for bringing up Lester Maddox.

Mary E., that is not the plane from which you usually preach. Did you give up Jefferson for Maddox? Where oh where is the perfect man to be a politician?

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Can you please define, ‘Obamaeconomics?’

I have a gut feeling that you have no idea…

I have a gut feeling the words “socialism”, “Marxism”, “communism”, and “fascism” will figure prominently in that definition.

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Wow, even Bill Clinton says that obama is the worst president ever. Anyone who thinks differently has blinders on. The truth is that neither mitt nor newt can ever be president. If one of those idiots wins the nomination (which I doubt), all of us (RP supporters) take our votes and walk out the door. OOPS, aren’t those the same votes that the GOP needs to defeat obama? Meanwhile, we will continue to have the support of republicans, independents, libertarians, blue republicans, and democrats. We will be pulling votes from obama and the GOP candidate. We will split the vote of both parties and gather those votes in a third party candidacy for Ron Paul. The age of the people not having their voice is over. The age of corruption is coming to a close. The age of media control is coming to a close. The age of the people is here. Ron Paul 2012!

Oh and by the way, I find it pretty funny that the media is trying to dig up all of this old news in order to slander Dr. Paul. Do they really think that we are going to change our minds and give up our chance at true freedom? They pick on the little crap and ignore the 23 trillion that the Fed sent out the door in the span of three years. I don’t see many reporting on that. That ought to tell you whose side they’re on.

One more thing, if you haven’t noticed, the Ron Paul army owns the internet. We have his back just like he has ours.

Quit with the trivial B.S. and focus on real issues.

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Ben – you “sound money” nutcases will never end the Fed. You can’t. Fed governors serve 14 year terms. One president can’t make a dent in it.

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Too funny,

the a$$hat that spouts, ‘Quit with the trivial B.S. and focus on real issues,’ is the one that starts his post with the fictional, ‘Wow, even Bill Clinton says that obama is the worst president ever.’

Are you representative of most RP supporters?

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Wow, even Bill Clinton says that obama is the worst president ever.

Been reading Stormfront.org and thewhiterace.com again, Ben?

LOL…

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Not a real boottz redneck

A you repeal the federal reserve act… Case closed 14 yr terms mean nothing once you repeal the act. Sound money nutcase??? Does the constitution not say that “only congress shall issue currency and the only legal tender shall be GOLD and SILVER”… The federal reserve is not congress, nor is reserve currency backed by gold or silver. So therefore it is a unconstitutional act!! Goodbye

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@Granny Godzilla ; No, that was plain old disrespectful badgering. Her question was answered!
Obama’s surging? That’s because he’s where he can’t do any harm, on the links. I wonder when he’s going to man up and fire his lying AG.
http://www.examiner.com/charleston-conservative-in-charleston-sc/ron-paul-calls-for-criminal-charges-against-eric-holder

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Obama vowed to filibuster any bill containing Telecom immunity….got Telecom money, voted against filibuster by Dodd against immunity and supported the underlying bill…

Another diddy, Obama promised to end the influence of money in politics…yet all the ones who got us into the financial mess Rubin, Summers and Goldman Sachs in general, are now put in charge ofthe cleanup….Obama promised investigation of financial collapse, got money, changed his mind…

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Obama’s surging? That’s because he’s where he can’t do any harm, on the links

Which is exactly why the polls taken while he was in Washington doing his job reflect his job approval when he’s on vacation… or something.

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Granny – trying to explain anything to a “mind made up” liberal is an exercise in futility. Apparently, you are not a student of world economics, but here’s a short summary. The English socialist party was/is keynesian, as is Obama. When England’s debt/export-import imbalance grew so large, the ruling socialist imposed higher taxes, privatized a lot of industry and business, all of which put England into an economic dive. I’m sure with the internet and your keen grasp of the “facts” you can verify this with minimal effort. Funny thing though. What England experienced in the 70’s sure sounds a lot like Obama’s economic policies of the day. Don’t take my word for it. Do the actual research for yourself. And yes, there is talk about no longer using the dollar for the world resrve currency. in large part ebcause we spend far more than we take in. Do you realize that even if the gov’t took 100% of everyone’s income it still woldn’t be enough to make ends meet. Simple economics anyone should understand. Can’t keep spending more than you earn. And yes, it goes back before Obama, before Bush, before Reagan. Simply politicians seeking to please the masses and get re-elected. And passing the buck (pun intended) to the next generation. Don’t tell me you believe the social security funds are in a lock box drivel. SSI has been looted for years, the money borrowed back by the FF&C of the U.S. gov’t. But we are fast approaching the day when there will be no more money to borrow, and no other country will want U.S. currency.
Yes, I’m a lot sharper than I usually am, and I apologize. But I’m tired of hearing so much bs. Not that I support Gingrich, but I don’t give a rat’s patootie who filed for his first divorce. What about Obama sitting all those years listening to the “hate the white devil” sermons from the good Rev. Jeremiah. I can hear the uproar now if any GOP candidate sat through years of KKK lecturing, butthen again, the old double standard is de rigeur for libs, isn’t it. What we need is someone, and I don’t care whether D or R, who actually understnads the problem and the changes that need to me made before it is absolutely too late. A dad out.

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Ok, its Romney then.
So the question is, who will occupy the passenger
seat in the clown car? RPaul, Newt, Sarah, CChristie? It will have to be
a base jumper, a snake-handler, ’cause the base ain’t coming out
for Mittens – quite the pickle for them.

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Granny – trying to explain anything to a “mind made up” liberal is an exercise in futility. Apparently, you are not a student of world economics, but here’s a short summary. The English socialist

Number of words to get to Kamchak called it! – 33

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A dad: Not that I support Gingrich, but I don’t give a rat’s patootie who filed for his first divorce. What about Obama sitting all those years listening to the “hate the white devil” sermons from the good Rev. Jeremiah

I submit to you that if you don’t care about one you should also not care about the other. Besides, you’re claiming that he gave lots of those sermons and there is no evidence to support that.

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Another installment in the Obama lovefest. Yawn…..

I guess Santa didn’t deliver on my request to bring Jay some journalistic integrity. Maybe next year….

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Mike Parent

Disrespectful badgering?

All us kenyan muslim facist anti americans have had a wee bit of badgering to put up with don’t ya think?

Man up.

A dad

Lighten up Francis.

Lotta words..no data.

I suppose it would do no good to point out that the statement

“trying to explain anything to a “mind made up” liberal is an exercise in futility.”

is a real blunder on your part when you have no data. just feelings.

and then you want me to dig up data to support your point?

hysterical, indeed.

geez the right has gotten so squishy.

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squishy, squishy, squishy

like wet socks

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Granny Godzilla

Pure old fashioned demagoguery!!!

Lol What do you want the man to do???
He has already been disavowing them for 10 years!!!!! What more do want? The answer is nothing will satisfy you. Because its not this issue that has you up in arms. Your using this a political tool just as any pundit would do to empathize they’re political agenda. The fact is Ron Paul is not a racist!! There are 100’s maybe 1000’s (by now) of african americans making videos on YouTube supporting Ron Paul who see right through your liberal agenda. I’m calling you a Racsist granny Godzilla cause I know you support the war on drugs. The number one cause of minority incarceration and enslavement. Anyone who supports the war on drugs is a racist!!! Ron Paul has been fighting against judicial discrimination ever since he stepped foot in congress some 30 yrs ago. He has never been caught in a clip being racist, he never voted in a racist manner, and he has time after time stated that the government should stay out of marriage (gay or straight marriage). So because only paragraph worth of racial slurs can be found in the 10’s of 1000’s of newsletters that was published under Ron Paul’s name, you deem him a Racist?!?!? Wow… Granny Godzilla you are really brainwashed by the neo con and liberal media…
p.s. Ron Paul list his heros as Martin Luther king, Rosa Parks, and Ghandi…sounds like a real racist to me :/

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Mike Parent — a just God would damn America for our treatment of Native Americans and slaves.

Most adults got over this though.

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Adam – the simplest answer is in the form of a question: name one country that espouses and abides by Keynesian economics that is successful, and explain why keynseian economics made it so. Answer: you can’t. I hope themoralistic overtones were truly lacking, and my reply was simply a statement of fact. Another example was the college professor who, to explain socialism, etc., told his students that he would take all the exam grades, add them together, then divide to get an average and tht would be the grade everyone in his class would get. Some students studied hard, others didn’t. The next next exam that came up, less student studied hard and the average grade was lower still. The final exam, no one really studied (why, what was the incentive) and the class failed. That’s pretty much the analysis of the “tax the rich” discussion going on, but that’s for another day.
The gov’t does not produce, it generates no revenue. It exists only by taking from its citizens and re-distributing that revenue, whether by tax credits, entitlement programs, etc. While some re-distribtuion (honestly not using in the way that word is being used currently) is necessary, far too many are dependent on the gov’t, and have/will be their entire lives. There are a lot of problems facing this country that require hard decisions, unpopular ones. And if they aren’t made, we’re going to end up hosed.

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Not a Neal Boortz Redneck
If there is a God, he already did by ‘giving” us GWB and BHO.

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Thought you’d miss the point Granny. I do have the data, but I wanted to hopefully make you curious enough to search this out for yourself. That was you couldn’t accuse me of misquoting, etc. But you want everyone to do everything for you so you can sit back and snipe. How typical. You had a chance to do something for yourself, without interference, and passed. Enjoy the new year.

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Ben

“Wow, even Bill Clinton says that obama is the worst president ever.”

Do you have a reputable source for that or do you believe everything you read, no matter where you read it?

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Air Jordans for $180? That is a lot, but I understand that also includes your bail.

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First I’d have to believe in God to answer that. BUT that “experiment” was beyond defensible or excusable, as were many other atrocities done here. Being a good American means admitting and learning from our mistakes,AND assuring they never happen again, JMO.

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NOT NEAL BORTZ,

You think $550 million is a lot of money for Goldman for SEC immunity?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/22/moveon-obama-must-keep-hi_n_108514.html

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2010/07/goldmans-550-million-fine-slap-on-wrist/

$13 billion in profit in 2009 means 4.2 percent of single year profits for years of criminal activity that BO vowed to pursue…suggest you google the number of BO appointments who came from GS, went to BO or prior adminstrations policy decision making post, pushed more deregulating legislation (ie bank holding company) then returned to GS to profit off policies they championed while in DC..

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Granny, “man up” ?

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Well, I see that before I posted several people mocked/ridiculed/questioned Ben about his Clinton/Obama confrontation and offered him the chance to put up or shut up.

He chose the third option – he left.

This blog is a tough place for newbies who think they can operate like they do on Redstate or other blogs and post whatever fanciful notions cross their mind and other people will respond with “yeah, you tell them!!!”

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Mike Parent: Okay, so NG is OK and agrees with SC flying the Stars and Bars over their State house and the President was ok listening to the Rev Wright saying “God Damn America. ” ?

Once, to make a point, yes. I dare you to find more than one sermon in which he said this, and to read up on the context.

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Mike,

Sore lose much?

You must be a con.

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Well, I better leave Bookman’s Propaganda Picnic and write some thank-you notes. MIckey Mouse will be president by the time I come back.

Do let me commend liberals for the vim & vigor of their persistent paranoid personalities. Amazing! Day & night at that!

Carry on, comrades. The day is young.

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Johnny b Good wrote: “He has already been disavowing them for 10 years!!!!!”
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No, not really. When this issue first came up in 1996, he defended the writings in his newsletters. It was only later when the “paleo-libertarian” strategy collapsed that he began trying to distance himself from what he wrote back then.

What do I want? I want him to accept responsibility for the articles and to stop trying to blame “some dude” for them.

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Dusty,

Leaving already?

I remember when you posted w did nothing wrong.

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Adam, yes he made his point. In any event he outraged some people. http://articles.cnn.com/2008-04-29/politics/obama.wright_1_wright-barack-obama-speech-on-race-relations?_s=PM:POLITICS

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SR,

Did you expect one man to change our corrupt government by himself?

No silly, he will need a mandate and a movement for that.

Are you joining the OWS or just running your mouth?

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getalife. No, I’m not a Pats fan, I was just stating a fact. Actually I was fine with them keeping the pedal to thew metal, but I wouldn’t have felt terrible if Brees got hurt doing it, either.

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Not a real boortz redneck

The federal reserve act needs be challenged!! The reason no one has challenged it is because it supports the status quo… Drr. Why would big government types give up a unlimited money supply??? Why get rid of a institution that can enable endless spending, endless warfare, endless welfare, and endless government. Lol I mean if I gave you a printing press and called the toilet paper you produced currency would you give that printing press up?? The fed gets to withhold alot of information because part of the fed is a Private Bank. Afterall, the federal reserve act was written by private bankers with only Banking interest and big business in mind. The federal reserve act is a direct violation of the constitution!!! Btw loved how you didn’t refute my constitution quote…;) because keynesians like you don’t support the constitution. Your big government types be it crony capitalist or socialist, who want to run the economy and run people’s personal lives.

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getalife

Yeah, Dusty’s gone…come in, stir things up, and then leave…hrrrmph…

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Mike Parent

Did you miss the question or are you avoiding it?

Granny Godzilla

December 27th, 2011
11:32 am
Mike

Do you think God would damn or bless America for the Tuskeegee Experiment?

Be honest….

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getalife,

I really need to thank a few people for their delights at Christmas. But if you so desire I will tell you again: W did nothing wrong. After 9/11 he was the strength that held us together. That strength is missing now.

There! Now don’t fret I may return. Maybe. If I’m interested and all that….

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“Jug Ears and Hippo Hips”

good lord alimighty.

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Mike,

I enjoyed the game from beginning to end but the best part was Brees’s speech after the game. The first shot showed Brees doing the Tebow and gathering his thoughts. Then he gave a heart felt speech thanking his entire team to give them the credit. I thought this guy would be a great politician.

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“I’m on a campaign to get all on both sides to agree that until we reform government, none of this matters….”

So, you did join the OWS movement.

Good for you .

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Chilidog
WRONG he never said those statements were his in 1996!!! He does however support the right of racist people to be racist. That’s free speech, that’s the first amendment. Every libertarian respects (although many condem) the views of racist people. That’s what he was defending in 1996 if you actually read instead of some New York times regurgitation, gotcha type reporting. Libertarians respect the free speech of racist people as long as they don’t use force.

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I answered it as best I could, being an atheist. I wrote, “First I’d have to believe in God to answer that. BUT that “experiment” was beyond defensible or excusable, as were many other atrocities done here.”
So I would damn the people who instituted that “experiment.”, but I can’t speak for some invisible Deity.
I guess I can dislike my government while still loving my country.

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“That’s free speech, that’s the first amendment”

Sure it is. And it’s first amendment free speech to criticize him for those statement. The first amendment give “free speech” not immunity from the consequences of speaking your mind.

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SFD

“…does any rational person posting here REALLY think that Obama’s was a “racist church?”

The Church of Christ? No. That congregation, yes. Read Preacher Wright’s writings going back for decades and judge from the corpus.

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Granny – 11:55

And yet, there’s no evidence that God ever did anything, one way or another, to America in connection with the Tuskeegee Experiment. In fact, there’s no evidence whatsover that God even exists. And yet, how many books written about God would fill how many bookshelves? The logical thing to do would be to put religon aside and wait patiently until irrefutable evidence comes in that God not only exists, but is the God you’re worshiping. Unfortunately, common sense and logic go out the window when irrational religion takes over the mind.

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“That congregation, yes”

Including the white members?

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NOTNEALBORTZ<

Appreciate your response however, we know by virtue of the fine that GS admitted to disclosure issues and mislead buyers relative to mortgage related securities….admitting to civil fraud SEC charges..of course we will never know what other crimes they may have committed given the record setting cronyism that exists between GS and our corruptresentatives…

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I did not believe him when he said we invented aides until our government admitted injecting std’s in humans for “study”.

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Doggone

“Including the white members?”

Yes.

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It’s a shame that we have a president that spent 20 years in a racist, hate-filled church being mentored by a racist marxist.

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What exactly has Obama done for his “black voters”? I know the right-wing wants to make everything a race issue but they don’t explain what he has done.

Bush sent everyone a $300 check. I don’t know what Obama has done. Making them buy health insurance does not count. (except Aetna and other insurers have nearly doubled in share price)

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Chilidog
you embarrass yourself lmao
I am a African American!!!! Omg haha how could I be racist against myself?? Well according to that 1992 Ron Paul newsletter then he must be the classic flip flopper because he voted for the MLK holiday. Go look at the roll call vote, Ron Paul voted yes!!! So why would he write that then vote yes???? Omg you are a moron

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SR,

I think it will take three or four more Presidents to fix a firmly embedded corrupt government and President Obama is just a start. It took a few decades to get to this point and change will not happen in two terms.

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A 2006 memo penned by Newt Gingrich praised the health reform law Mitt Romney piloted as governor of Massachusetts, and threatens to undercut the former House speaker’s criticism of that plan.

A memo (first unearthed Tuesday by the Wall Street Journal) distributed through Gingrich’s Center for Health Transformation credits Romney and his state’s health reform law as a positive development.

“The most exciting development of the past few weeks is what has been happening up in Massachusetts. The health bill that Governor Romney signed into law this month has tremendous potential to effect major change in the American health systemm,” Gingrich wrote. “We agree entirely with Governor Romney and Massachusetts legislators that our goal should be 100 percent insurance coverage for all Americans.”

That would seemingly temper Gingrich’s criticism of the Massachusetts plan as the “forerunner of Obamacare.”

Gingrich has similarly criticized the individual mandate contained both in Romney and President Obama’s health reforms, despite having supported a similar model for health reform in the 1990s. He’s since disavowed such a plan.

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Josef “Yes”

Baloney

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Fed up, I can tell from your post that you are well-informed and obviously very very fair and balanced. Obviously you have done your research and I am sure if you were tracking those promises you would be even more fair and balanced. I am sure you would never post a falsehood or blame Obama unfairly and unbalancedly. And I am sure YOUR cesspool does not stink.

I imagine the obvious snark in the above eludes you…but if you want to learn real infomation about promises kept, Politifact may be for you if you can turn off Faux.

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The only thing being exposed here is how the AJC is still as liberal as usual. I hear everyday on the radio how ajc is going to be more down the middle….lol. You guys are the msnbc of print media. Just embrace it, i would respect you more if you did.

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Mike Parent

You have Harry Truman in every Neo Conservative that runs for office. If like Harry Truman look no further than Rick Santorum and Michelle Bachman. Neo Cons have long hailed Woodrow Wilson and Harry Truman as icons of neoconservatism.

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Johnny begood wrote (12:00 pm): “”Chilidog
WRONG he never said those statements were his in 1996!!! “
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He never said they weren’t. They were written in the first person in a newsletter under his name.
He is totally responsible for them.
too bad, so sad.

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johnny

For the love of G-d, man, what DO you know of Harry? Liberal, on a lot of issues, conservative on others, but it there ever were a President who represented us as a people as who we really are, it was he…never forget that he integrated the Armed Forces and gave us the Marshall Plan, called by Churchill, “the most unsordid act in history.”

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newt is a typical con that lies about everything but takes no blame for anything.

Ask him about leading on deregulations with gramm to watch his head explode.

There will be no change with willard or newt so there is only one choice left.

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Chilidog
What are you talking about??? He did say that he didn’t write them and that he didn’t support those views. However he did say he supports the free speech of racist people. Your trying to tie that into your arguement and you fail so hard at doing it.

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getalife

Newt is far worse than Willard. He is vindictive, corrupt to the core, and friendless inside DC. He would surround himself with lackeys and reprobates. He truly is sleaze in its full representation.

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Johnny begood wrote: “Every libertarian respects (although many condem) the views of racist people.”
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Oh, really?

You do realize that you are not helping your cause with statements like this, don’t you?

Why should anyone have any respect for a viewpoint that is motivated by hatred?

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“However he did say he supports the free speech of racist people.”

Ron Paul and I both support the free speech rights of racists.

He was stupid enough to hand them a megaphone with his name on it.

No Oval Office for him.

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Ron Paul is a humanitarian in the sea of political lobbyist and corruption which undermine the American people. Look at not only his voting record while in Congress, but take a snapshot of his entire life. As young boy growing up on a farm, learning what hard work and savings really meant. Then a humanitarian choosing to not dodge the draft like Gingrich, but instead joining the Airforce to become a Flight Surgeon, and later a humanitarian becoming an OBGYN Doctor delivering babies.. multitudes of them. This man cares for life, as a humanitarian took his fight to congress and challenged the de-linking of the Gold standard, by history knowing that empires have consistently come to an end once the monetary policy of that empire was based on a fiat standard.. Paul, once again as a humanitarian sought to protect that very same thing which the Founders of this great nation sought also to protect, your life, your liberty, natural law rights which would ensure a freedom to obtain prosperity. Not only does Paul have a sound understanding of history, and where we have come from, he has endorsed the continued education in economic philosophy (Austrian Economics), he is very aware of the history of foreign nations (read: The Foreign Policy of Freedom) and again as a humanitarian seeks the protection of rights for all citizens of the whole world, which more so than any other candidate is known and supported by people around the world.

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how true is this?

by failing to prosecute a single high-profile Wall Street actor today, the Obama Administration is failing to deter financial fraud tomorrow.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-connaughton/obama-wall-street-laws_b_1157915.html?ref=email_share

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Josef

Harry Truman supported military interventionism as much as the neo cons do. In fact if you look at Truman’s stances on the issues he is a poster child of neoconservatism. Bush’s foregin policy was Truman doctrine all over again. Google “Neo conservatism and Harry Truman”. Modern mainstream republicanism comes from the “the old left” which opposed the “new left” ushered in by Kennedy. The old left, left the democratic party in the late 60’s early 70’s and joined the republican party. They became known as the “neo conservatives” or the “new right”. They opposed the “old right” or paleoconservatives/libertarians. The neo cons hijacked the republican party and today all we have is two warring factions of the democratic party. The Old left vs the New Left…with the exception of Ron Paul who is a dying breed of paleoconservative.

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Ron Paul did not say those things.

watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk1Vpeuw

RON PAUL 2012!!
-from a proud, 21 year old black male

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A dad: I said there isn’t a keynesian country that succeeds.

Then you do not believe in American Exceptionalism?

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Finn –

Mortgage origination fraud is nearly impossible to prove and rare.

Foreclosure fraud is a state issue governed by state law.

MBS fraud is one financial institution vs another. Civil action is appropriate there.

Take MF Global – they are bankrupt and a billion dollars of customer funds are missing. Was there fraud? They can’t find the audit trail. 98% no one will ever know or they broke no law.

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Read Preacher Wright’s writings going back for decades

Could you point to anything in particular?

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7 pages and it’s nearly all Ron Paul.

Tells you something about the new outlook on Newt,even in conland.

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Mortgage origination fraud is nearly impossible to prove and rare.

Rare? The recent Wells Fargo settlement suggests otherwise.

MBS fraud is one financial institution vs another. Civil action is appropriate there.

It may also constitute the basis for criminal action.

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““We now have over $9 trillion dollars of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child,” Obama said on July 3, 2008, at a campaign event in Fargo, N.D.
“That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic,” said candidate Obama.”

The problem is his plan to pay it back doesn’t include every man woman and child, it only includes the millionairs and billionairs and there isn’t enough money in all of them combined to pay it back.

And the spending continues as if that weren’t the case.

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josef

December 27th, 2011
11:48 am

Josef,
Just catchin’ up on my reading when I saw your above…I’ve been accused of using the “Lord’s” name in vain, as in G-Damn, first name last name, but it was never ibntentional. With me it as, when irked about bsome thing, like this. God! Damnit! Two one word sentences is all. I wonder if that will count against me?
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As for Harry…he did accept responsibility. “The buck stops here”. Gotta love it….
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…and I hope you had a great Hanukkah!

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Well Obama went to a white hating Church and won’t show his birth certificate. He refuses to show it and everytime he is asked he ignores it and gets angry. Under your logic Obama is a racist and is hiding the fact he was born outside the US. You want to engage in political quick talk… Engage!!!

so much stupidity packed in so little space……….

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As to the topic, the only thing I like about Ron Paul is his stance on the military. At least he as the “war is stupid” thing down pat.

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SFD

Read them for yourself and draw your own conclusions. It would serve no useful purpose here for me to go cherry picking…

NORMAL
You’re not a preacher speaking from the pulpit, either.

midori

And he took the N-me of the L-rd G-d in vain from the pulpit. Deal with it.

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Keep Up the Good Fight!

December 27th, 2011
12:55 pm

Yeah, some people just can’t keep up, ya know?

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Josef does Isreal or Korea ring a bell… How bout that tad bit of interventionism under Truman’s watch??? That’s bush/Cheney all the way. Don’t take my word for it look at self proclaimed neo cons they love Truman he is a conservative Icon… The old left IS the New Right!!

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The Federal Reserve is also the largest taxpayer – $125 billion the last two years. Technically they are not taxes but that kind of change works anyway.

There are two new Fed nominations today, btw.

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Proof of Ron Paul’s racism:

http://www.5k.com/

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Normal, well I am sure trying to keep up with news that a long form is avaiable online for probably a year or more now together with the prior certificates from the State of Hawaii is just too difficult to keep up with over the holidays. Then again, I heard my SO’s parents this weekend claim that there is so much we don’t know about Obama…….. So we know Fox is still putting out this garbage.

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As to the topic, the only thing I like about Ron Paul is his stance on the military. At least he as the “war is stupid” thing down pat.

remember hearing from the DNC establishment that Joe Lieberman was “with us on everything but the war?” (which wasn’t really intended as a factual statement, but never mind that.)

Perhaps our standard line for Ron Paul is that he’s *against* us on everything but the war.

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Josef,
Is it a sin to ask God to damn a person? Like Steppenwolf’s song, “God damn the pusher man….”
Not that it matters really, but I’m just asking.

This “taking the Lords name in vain” business is just religion. We would be better off without it. You really don’t need religion to worship God.

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I hope Obama’s job-approval ratings soar to 100%. Then I’ll likely get my request for help on my utility bills and may get a new pair of the Jordan sneakers in the deal. Also, since he’s making my house payments, I can probably afford one of those new, hot-shot Ford Mustangs; convertable that is.

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Johnny begood (12:49 pm) ”Because it is your first amendment right… “
It is my first amendment right to espouse racist views in a Ron Paul newsletter?
No, I don’t think it works that way. Thank you for playing.

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Johnny begood

A new Rock n Roll Moniker

yea yea yea

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Joe Cool – Please tell me why am I small-minded?? Is it because I care about our citizens and have little or no concern for others in foreign lands. Economic times that we are in almost demand it in my opinion. For example – I am a former vet and I would water-board a suspected terriorist on national TV if it would save an American life!

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I applaud President Obama and the Democrats for the political victory they won last week. The impact was to weaken the influence of the most reactionary and clueless faction in Congress – the tea party Republicans – and strengthen the hand of both progressives and pragmatic conservatives. This can only be a good thing.

by: Eugene Robinson, Washington Post

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Johnny begood (12:52 pm)
”Well Obama went to a white hating Church and won’t show his birth certificate. He refuses to show it and everytime he is asked he ignores it and gets angry.
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So you’re a birthertard as well as a Ronulan. Figures. Are you a 911 truther as well? Do you think the moon landings were faked? What about Chemtrails? Those are real right? Ron Paul had stuff about Black Helicopters in his newsletters as well. Do you believe that JFK was not shot by Oswald?

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some folks weren’t paying attention during the debt ceiling debacle.

funny

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Anyone that is not happy with the current state of the American way of life can choose who the banks, Wall St., and the Mainstream are attacking. Someone who thinks that we can continue on our current path will chose Romney or Obama to continue our course. Obama will lose some favor as Kmart/Sears starts closing stores along with several others effected by poor sales.

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Hi Paul

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Chilidog

I dislike the language in those newsletter as well. We agree totally on that!!! I’m right there with you. But Ron Paul did not write them. Nor has he ever voted, supported, or spoke in public about those views…So you fail once again to prove Ron Paul racist. I guess if your misguided political philosophy leads you to adhere to free speech that is totally and utterly unfactual. Then I respect your right to believe in such nonsense. However, I’m still going to refute and debunk everything you say!!

I’m a African American for Ron Paul!!

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Why did you leave out laissez-faire? Regardless, you didn’t address you claim that American Exceptionalism was somehow a by product of keynesian economics. Which it clearly is not.

I left out laissez-faire because that implies free for all free market rules, as in, no rules at all.

American Exceptionalism is because of the rise of the middle class, which is a result of Keynesian policies set forth in the 30s and 40s.

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Johnny begood (1:04 pm)
That’s because in 1983 the bill created a paid federal holiday!!!! He was voting against a payed federal holiday because it is a waste of tax payer dollars… You fail again
No, you fail.
You lied about Paul’s vote.
It is clear that Paul was not “Flip Flopping” when he wrote in his 1993 newsletter: “Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressmen (sic). What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it: We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.”

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midori

Keep defending him for that all you want. It puts you in the same category as those who defend the child molesting rapists defending their own Men of G-d…

and, bottom line, this is what has given organized religion a bad name…self-aggrandizing pompous asses using the pulpit for personal glorification…all faiths, all creeds, all colors…

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USMC

How ’bout half?

Only $600 billion?

Cutting half the waste is better than nothing!

Have at it!

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Ron Paul will never support a single piece of bank regulation.

Its hilarious that someone named ‘Banksters Rule the World’ is a Ron Paul supporter.

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“In my belief and in my opinion, yes”

And while your belief may matter to YOU, it’s GOD’s opinion of what was said that REALLY matters.

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Doggone

Agreed…now take a swig of that drink yourself…it’ll help wash down the baloney sandwich!

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“Okay. So what $1.2 trillion in the budget would you cut NOW?”–Paul

EVERYTHING should be on the table… Yes, military and all.

I would favor cutting most if not all foreign aid, for starters. Then I would favor an ACROSS the top cut of 10%-25%… Get er done!

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If you can relate to this man, you are also delusional….

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/0a03ebddbb/ron-paul-a-bad-lip-reading-soundbite

…..mentally challenged…..

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I would water-board a suspected terriorist on national TV if it would save an American life!

There’s your sign.

Oy!

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What’s up Jay? Hopefully you and your family had a great Christmas. I wish Health and Wealth to you and your family. Health is your weath………..I see you got things started today on the blogs. Keep up the good work and I will continue to read, learn, and be entertained.

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Ok, this was OBVIOUSLY on the conservative talk radio this morning.

It’s the default response any time any GOPer is accused of racial insensitivity. “yeah well … Your boy sat in them pews listening to HATEY HATEFUL HATIFICATION for TWENTY YEARS!!!”

It’s generally uttered by people whose knowledge of Trinity UCC wouldn’t fill a thimble.

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for any Ron Paul supporters here, can you defend Ronnie’s sponsoring of this bill:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.539:
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The Supreme Court of the United States and each Federal court–

(2) shall not rely on any judicial decision involving any issue referred to in paragraph (1).

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In other words, Ronnie’s trying to nullfy the 14th amendment.

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Republicans are running out of time. They’re gonna have ta pick their favorite. Will it be the Newt or Mitt or Perry or Ron or Michelle. So many excellent choices. How will you Republicans evah decide. If only y’all could get another Bush in the race. That would decide it for ya.

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“In other words, Ronnie’s trying to nullfy the 14th amendment.”

Republicans hate the Constitution.

I can name ten amendments they want to get rid of.

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Not A Neal Boortz Redneck: And they want to line-item veto the religion part of the first amendment.

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“Ben Nelson retiring from Senate”Politico

Good news.

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Adam,

I think your views are pathetic because you support an economic theory that results in theocracy. America is exceptional because of the freedom we enjoy, including how our market was conceptualized and the steps taken to prevent a theocracy.

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Photographic proof that Ron Paul is a racist!!!

The presstitute shills and the Neocons are going to pull out all of the stops against RP. And they will come down on him with both feet. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the establishment MSM so scared in my lifetime; It’s because they have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo.

By the way, if you want to see some great pictures of Ron Paul acting like a racist, then check out the following link:

http://www.5k.com/

Please spread these photos around!

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Talking Head: I am sure you have some kind of evidence supporting that Keynesian economics results in theocracy. Otherwise, I don’t buy it. I am against theocracy but I see no evidence that Keynesian economics is about anything but economics. There’s no religion involved.

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K’chak

“Boy, you must not have taken any economics classes in college”
“You phrase that as if it’s a bad thing.”

And a polite golf clap…

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USMC

The difficulty with across the board cuts is that it says “Every program is equally important and no program has any more waste than any other program.”

For that reason, I’m not in favor of across the board cuts.

I’m more for eliminating entire programs.

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“Talking Head: I am sure you have some kind of evidence supporting that Keynesian economics results in theocracy. Otherwise, I don’t buy it. I am against theocracy but I see no evidence that Keynesian economics is about anything but economics. There’s no religion involved.”

Sorry Adam, I meant aristocracy. I am in another blog commenting on religion and government.

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Not a Neal Boortz Redneck

December 27th, 2011
1:45 pm

The only separation in the Constitution is a limit on the Government. Our government is prohibited in establishing a national church and they are not suppose to interfere in religion. There is absolutely no restrictions on what states can and can not do in regards to religion. There is only the (made up) total separation that the courts have since imposed.

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I find rather amusing all the talk about Rev Wright being a racist.

The guy retired to a gated community that’s about 97% white.

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Ron Paul wants to go back to the fifties.

We will move forward into 2012 and the only things stopping economic growth are the EU and the gop.

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td: There is absolutely no restrictions on what states can and can not do in regards to religion. There is only the (made up) total separation that the courts have since imposed.

No, the first amendment is federal, which supercedes state law. It’s in the U.S. Constitution, meaning it is held higher than the laws of states attempting to impose religious favoritism in any way.

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What is wrong with We The People act???

It attempts to give states the right to ignore federal laws. And that is wrong.

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td

wrong again

The 14th Amendment incorporates all amendments into state law. Until the 1860’s states were permitted to establish a religion or force residents to pray. No longer.

do a search on the 14th and incorporation – it is judicial history

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorporation_%28Bill_of_Rights%29

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Best New Graphic in the world today: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2011/10/horse_race_politics_an_animation_of_the_2012_republican_campaign.html

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Those darned activist judges in the 1890s!

Applying the Constitution to the states – the gall. (conservative mockery)

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Maybe Shep is the Fox “news” token Democrat now that they don’t have Colmes.

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Maybe Shep is the Fox “news” token Democrat now that they don’t have Colmes.

Fox needs him in the same way that the Globetrotters need the Washington Generals.

Just sayin’.

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Anybody pegging this economy on Obama was pegging Bush’s disasters on Clinton.

In other words, they will accept no blame, only dole it out. And then unabashedly demand our support.

Ain’t gonna happen.

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‘Keynes was a lifelong member of the British aristocracy. He hailed the system of aristocratic rule as sound, so long as governing personnel were chosen from the existing organic elite.’

Bullchips…

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Not a Neal Boortz Redneck

December 27th, 2011
1:49 pm
“America is exceptional because of our “freedom”?

Crazy talk – we are not the freest country by any stretch.”

Boortz Redneck,

Doesn’t sound like you’ve done very much traveling sir. When you travel in many nation’s around the world its not at all unusual to come to police or military checkpoints and have to provide ID and reasons for your travel before then being allowed to proceed. In the U.S. you can get in your car today and travel across state lines and drive from here to Maine or to Washington state and not be stopped by anyone asking why you are going to Maine or Wash. state. I haven’t been to Europe in quite awhile but as I understand it if you are on trains in Western Europe police can go through the cars checking passports.

If you don’t think that we are as free or more free than the vast majority of nations on earth then you clearly haven’t been anywhere.

Oh, one other thing redneck. In terms of freedom of speech we can say whatever the hell we want which you cannot do in nation’s like Britain or Germany. Crazy people here can deny that the holocaust existed and just be looked upon as the nuts that they are. Do the same in Germany and you can go to jail.

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td: What I am saying is that the first amendment is in the constitution. Because of that, the Tenth amendment only applies to the part where it says “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States,” or did YOU forget about THAT little part of the 10th amendment?

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I looks like Newt got his VA petition signatures the same way he got his Twitter followers.

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I left ilk and cookies for Santa on Saturday night.

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filky,

cons are sane?

When did that happen?

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Is it ilk season again already?

Them’s good eatin’…what’s the limit?

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td

Hannity is not a “true conservative.” He’s bat shyt crazy…imo

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Adam

December 27th, 2011
2:13 pm

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”

This says “Congress”, the Federal government, “shall make no law”. Where does it restrict the states from making any law? Again, the 10th amendment leaves these matters to the states. You are making the argument for me. It is in plain (easy to read) language. Do you believe the second Amendment means that only the military can own guns?

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Quoting Stalin? Nice!

Obviously when you sarcastically quote a tyrant, that makes you JUST LIKE THE TYRANT.

(and I doubt Stalin actually said that, it’s just fun to imagine he did.)

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td: I think you’re ignoring significant parts of the Constitution to try to make the case that states can ignore federal law. Like this, for instance:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, anything in the constitution or laws of any state to the contrary notwithstanding.

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Adam – keynesian economics espouses the gov’t stepping in in times of economic downturn and reviving the economy via spending. Keynesian economics is a spend now, don’t worry about the future model. Even Keynes recognized that those in the gov’t generally either lacked the economic expertise or else it would just take toolong for the gov’t to act to make any real difference. keynes was all about spending. Re-distribution of wealth from the rich to the poor would essentially equate to the poor spending, vice saving. In other words, Keynes makes no provision for the future, whichin turns makes everyone, expecially those poor “poor” who spend everything, even more dependent upon the gov’t in later years. Vicious cycle, yes?
What system do I advocate. Free enterprise. Supply and demand. Survival of the fittest. I make no apologies for anyone too lazy to go out and make a living. However, some have become generationally institutionalized by gov’t policies. So what happens to them? I’d go with my suggested welfare reform of years ago. Doesn’t make sense for someone getting $400 a month in benefits to be kicked out and have to work a full-time, min wage job and bring in $275 (all figures for exmaples only). So, force them to get a job and bring in the 275, then supplement their income with the 125 needed to bring them to the 400. That was they don’t suffer anything economically and you can now support 3 for the price of 1. Look at all the opportunities in this country to succeed if one works hard enough. But that’s been bred/dribven out of so many, who simply expect to be handed whatever they want. Free enterprise Adam. Over time, it tends to balance itself out.

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td: Why do the states have the rights to decide who can marry whom? Why are there different divorce statues in states? Why do some states have the death penalty an some do not?

How about because there aren’t any federal laws to the contrary?

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Obama is a pathetic excuse for a President and our nations first affirmative action disaster
RON PAUL 2012

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td (2:11 pm): How is (the We The People Act) a violation (of the 14th Amendment)?
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Read the Section 1 of the Amendment for yourself

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

The part in bold applies the privileges or immunities of the U.S. Constitution and all its amendments to the states. The “We The People Act” attempts to remove that application.

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A dad: You do realize that with free enterprise and survival of the fittest the banks would have done what they did in the past ten years much, MUCH sooner, and caused a collapse of the entire economic system, and still run away with most of the spoils, yes?
There would be no need of any Keynes measures you describe (which, btw, is NOT all there is to it) if there were enforced regulations on the banks and lenders so they could not get away with what they got away with.

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Wow….can ya get more dramatic over a 1% cut/yr for 6 yrs?….throw the economy in a ditch!….really???…the butterfly effects of economy?

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Not a Neal Boortz Redneck

December 27th, 2011
2:31 pm

Obamacare decision will see just how far the made up “Supremacy clause” will be allowed to go.

What is the purpose for state government is the Federal government has ALL the power?

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td: “made up” Supremacy Clause? I’d love to see you try to argue with the founding fathers on that one.

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….throw the economy in a ditch!….really???

Only delusional people believe that throwing the federal government into reverse and chugging backwards, somehow, would not have disastrous effects on this nation’s well being.

Alas, those delusional folks include all too many Congrefscritters.

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Mr. Bookman says Ron Paul exposed. All he has been exposed for is failure to edit and read every line of his newsletter that has thousands of pages where less than 1/100,000 has racially insensitive remarks.With 8 different authors at the time and Paul’s involvement with his medical practice,I can see how this happened. If you go on youtube and listen to every speech he has ever made you will see he clearly is no racist. He is just the opposite.

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Spk, Aqua, Granny G, Am Vet, Adam and like minded, I have to whisper this. The Republicans who comment here daily have become deranged since Mr. Obama took office. That explains their feeble musings devoid of logic. Is there a twelve step program for ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) that they can attend? They are in need of serious intervention. I’m afraid they will commit mass suicide if he is reelected?

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Could that be because the Constitution restrict the Federal government from making such laws?

No.

THBAEOSATSQ

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Corey –

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Not a Neal Boortz Redneck: What is your reasoning behind saying Citizens United was rightly decided?

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I’m afraid they will commit mass suicide if he is reelected?

In other words, someone who appeals to about 2% of the GOP’s “base”…

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What the following really comes down to is something that we all know as a basic law of common sense. Govt spending is largely an inefficient allocation of resources. And until you reduce the level of govt interference,inefficiencies, and distortions and malinvestments in the economy you are not going to allow the economy to self correct, for the means of production to adjust, and for consumer preferences to realign. Read below and the understanding becomes more clear.

In America’s Great Depression, Rothbard (2000) wrote, “there is one thing the government can do positively [during a depression], however: it can drastically lower its relative role in the economy, slashing its own expenditures and taxes” (p. 22). The Japanese government raised its consumption tax from 3 percent to 5 percent in 1997. There were income tax cuts in 1994, and in 1998, the top income tax rate was decreased from 65 percent to 50 percent and the corporate rate from 46 percent to 40 percent. Despite some tax cuts, Japan has maintained a high level of government spending. Government-services spending increased 9 percent from 1995 through 1999 (EIU 2001).

Tax decreases cannot have their full beneficial effects if they are not matched by corresponding decreases in government spending. If more money is left in the hands of private citizens, some of it will be saved, helping to justify the lengthened structure of production, whereas all government spending is consumption.8 The increase in the consumption tax and the failure to reduce government spending along with the other tax cuts delay recovery from recession. Government spending seeks to maintain the existing production structure, against the demands of consumers, instead of permitting its liquidation and reconstruction (Herbener 1999).

The repeated fiscal stimulus packages with public-works spending, the large amount of savings controlled by the postal savings system and allocated through FILP, and the efforts to prevent bank and business failures all have prevented the market process of recovery from working.

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Oh noes. Out of control slanties!

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What the economy really needs in order to turn around.

In Austrian theory, the recession is necessary, and once it sets in and bad investments are liquidated, the economy will self-correct. After 10 years, there are still no signs of economic correction. Austrian theory recognizes that time is required for economic self-correction but that the correction can only occur if the market process is allowed to work. Rothbard (2000) summarized the Austrian policy position this way:

If government wishes to alleviate, rather than aggravate, a depression, its only course is laissez-faire—to leave the economy alone. Only if there is no interference, direct or threatened, with prices, wage rates, and business liquidation will the necessary adjustment proceed with smooth dispatch. Any propping up of shaky positions postpones liquidation and aggravates unsound conditions. (p. 185)

As described above, Japan’s government has done everything but leave the economy alone and allow self-correction.

http://mises.org/daily/1099

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Adam -

I am a First Amendment absolutist.

Citizens United suppresses Free Speech – even if that speech is bought and paid by loathsome characters.

Those liberals at the ACLU sided with the conservatives by the way. I should send them another donation come to think of it.

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Steve-USA,

True enough. You don’t get too many votes telling people that its partially their fault. Nor do you get to many votes by telling people the truth- that the best option to recover from economic recession is to do nothing. There are just too many dumb people out there that thing govt is supposed to fix everything. All they know is to look to govt. How and where we ever went wrong in going to this mentality is probably where we began to decline as a nation.

The only doing to be done should be to lessen the govts role in the economy rather than increase it. But again. That’s a hard thing to try and tell people that have an ingrained mentality that govt has to “do something”, particularly when the only thing the govt should do is get out of the way and reduce its involvement in the economy.

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“I will continue to argue that austerity is the dumbest move we could make.”

Those who continue to refuse to learn from economic history will be condemned to repeat it. As we are doing now here in the U.S.

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td: So what you are trying to tell us then is that the states can do whatever they want to do until the Federal government can muster a majority and decide what the supreme law of the land is going to be on any subject?

Yes.

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Not a Neal Boortz Redneck: Well my view is that corporations should not be allowed to make unlimited donations if individuals are not allowed to do the same.

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Austrian theory failed in the Long Depression in the United States.

didn’t know about the Long Depression?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Depression

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A dad,

I’m just trying to get them to understand that we are repeating the exact same mistakes that Japan went through. And getting the exact same results that Japan got in its lost decade. You would think people would learn and educate themselves on economic history. But something tells me that the mentality that govt must “do something” is just too firmly entrenched in their mindsets. No matter how much economic evidence you present they may never learn the straightforward truth that govt is not the solution. Govt is the problem.

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