No, Obama didn’t humiliate House GOP. They did it themselves.
I could, I suppose, write some 3,000-word essay about the capitulation of the House GOP and how it burnishes President Obama’s reputation as a leader, and how it will make things difficult for Republican leadership when they are forced to revisit the issues again in two months. They’ve already demonstrated that they can’t afford the political price of blocking the bill; on the other hand, they’ve got a core of backbenchers who never liked the legislation in the first place, and whose anger and frustration will only increase after this.
On the other hand, it’s almost Christmas, and I’m supposed to be on vacation. So let’s go this route instead.
Here’s the Washington Post’s take on what happened yesterday:
The headlines on the home page of Politico pick up the theme as well:
And finally, here’s how the conservative National Review saw the outcome:
– Jay Bookman
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They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:06 pm
JKL2
“Neverconfuse common sense and leadership with the obama administration.”
One could easily use Bush’s name for the same exact thing… right?
josef
December 23rd, 2011
12:07 pm
PETER
“Hey Bill Orvis White… what about the folks who don’t read the Bible ?”
They gonna burn in the lake of fire anyway.
As for the secular answer…
They’re ignorant and unlettered in the classics of the Western Cultural Tradition…
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:08 pm
getalife- Payback all stolen funds.
How is the Demwit plan to continue reducing income going to recover those funds? Expenses up + income down = deficit reduction. Love the new obamanomics…
Erwin's cat
December 23rd, 2011
12:08 pm
frog – no i think we both know
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:08 pm
Thulsa: if hot dogs come 6 to a pack and buns come 8 to a pack then you simply have to buy 8 packs of hot dogs and 6 packs of buns! Simple, really!
Sooth–You are not smarter than a fifth grader–You forgot all about LCDs (Lowest Common Denominator). 4 packs of dogs and 3 packs of buns will lead you to hot dog nirvana.
josef
December 23rd, 2011
12:10 pm
Brosephus
They jus lyin…they brown ain’t they? They speak Spanish don’t they? They Catholics ain’t they? Then, they Messicans…
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:10 pm
Expenses up + income down = deficit reduction.
You mean the Bush plan don’t you ? This is how we got here.
Brosephus
December 23rd, 2011
12:10 pm
Bruno
Slight correction there… Least common multiple. LCD would be going from 40 backwards.
getalife
December 23rd, 2011
12:11 pm
Sooth,
You will need more food than that just for Mrs. RC and her husband can steal some of that cheap swill off his truck to wash it down.
Peter,
Bill is Redneck Convert’s competition.
Read his blog.
carlosgvv
December 23rd, 2011
12:11 pm
Doom – 11:19
It’s clear world history is a subject you know little or nothing about. If you were capable of knowing how you consistently embarass yourself here by displaying such profound ignorance, maybe you’d go someplace else.
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
12:12 pm
You mean the Bush plan don’t you ?
Thank you, GOP market liberals!
In another forty years of trickle down, who knows? Maybe incomes will actually go up for 80% of Americans…
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:12 pm
AmVet- Being one of the biggest Barry haters here, I presume you would endorse that Ahmadinejad/Chavez ticket?
A bunch of socialist surrounded by crooks. I really don’t see the difference between the two. I would give the knod to A/C based of the fact at least they possess leadership skills.
getalife
December 23rd, 2011
12:12 pm
jk,
If they paid for w’s tax cuts and trillion dollar programs like two occupations would help.
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:14 pm
Slight correction there… Least common multiple. LCD would be going from 40 backwards.
LOL, got me on that one, Bro, though the process for determining the LCM is exactly the same as finding the LCDs for two fractions.
Brosephus
December 23rd, 2011
12:16 pm
Bruno
True! That’s why I didn’t break out the ruler to rap those knuckles.
getalife
December 23rd, 2011
12:17 pm
jk,
Yes they used socialism to bail out the people you carry water for.
getalife
December 23rd, 2011
12:17 pm
jk is a socialist.
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:17 pm
LOL–Though I guess josef would have to deduct a few points for using incorrect terminology.
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
12:18 pm
JKL2, you non-conservative neo-cons wouldn’t know socialism if you took a six week class on it taught by Friedrich Engels.
Seriously…
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:18 pm
I don’t understand why the GOP followers cry about the debt… they did it themselves !
“Deficits don’t matter “…….that was the Cheney battle cry.
Bush imploded the economy, started 2 wars with out funding them, and put that debt aside, like an extra credit card. Now all the debt is on one plate, all of a sudden it is Obama’s Fault ?
Where is the logic ?
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:18 pm
they BOTH- One could easily use Bush’s name for the same exact thing… right
Problem was with Bush was he wasn’t conservative. He tried to make nice with the Demwits and got nothing but stabbed in the back for it. Now the “best” of obama is an extension of the “worst” of Bush. But yet he is still the “devil” while obama is the “mesiah”
getalife
December 23rd, 2011
12:20 pm
Peter,
In con la la land, they ignore the w disaster and his collapse and cowardly blame our President.
That is their logic.
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:20 pm
Socialism. The term the Right wing uses when American’s help American’s.
What is the term used by the Right, when they start Wars to free another country, with out funding the wars please ?
Butch Cassidy
December 23rd, 2011
12:21 pm
JKL2- “I guess I missed the part where all the Demwits voted against their own bill.”
Nope, you missed the part where the Republicans could have denied it and didn’t.
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:21 pm
JKL2 . The economy is improving yes or no ?
Bill Orvis White
December 23rd, 2011
12:21 pm
@peter @josef
Those who don’t adhere to the Bible receiveth punishment in the form of devasattion including floods and earthquakes. One need only look at the non-believers in New Orleans. The believers in the area were collateral damage. This is why I’m on these lefty blogs doing my best to get naive secular progressives to see the light so that everyone becomes a believer which will eliminate such devastation. The Bible teaches right versus wrong, pure and simple. Jihadist are wrong, thus we need to go after them through patriotic, strong military action. The Bible sanctions such rightful actions: jihad=wrong — rightful War on Terror=good.
Merry Christmas
Amen,
Bill
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:22 pm
getalife- If they paid for w’s tax cuts and trillion dollar programs like two occupations would help
By trillion$ programs you mean obamacare and bailouts for Demwit buddies don’t you? Last I checked, about the only one voting against those wars was obama. Maybe you should talk to Pelosi and Reid about that one.
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:22 pm
JKL2
Actully it has to do with the percentage make up of the Congress not that your boy Bush tried to make nice…
He did what he had to do based on the percentages in each chamber……….
When he felt he could push something he did, when he had to hold up he did
Remember his own Party caving on him when he was wanting to private SS? That wasn’t Bush himself……. It was his own Party..
Lets be “fair and balanced”
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
12:22 pm
Carlos,
All I ever hear from you is opinionated hyperbole and emotional rhetoric. I would take you more seriously if you would ever respond with clear cut examples, links, etc as opposed to just inflammatory invective.
How To Fix Congress
December 23rd, 2011
12:22 pm
Congressional Reform Act of 2011/2012
1. Term Limits
12 years max, some possible options are below.
A. Two Six-year Senate terms
B. Six Two-year House terms
C. One Six-year Senate term and three Two-Year House terms
2. No Tenure / No Pension
Members of Congress receive a salary while in office,
that salary ends when they leave office.
3. Congress members (past, present & future) are to participate in Social Security.
All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system
immediately.
All future funds flow into the Social Security system,
and Congress participates with all Americans.
4. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan,
just as all Americans do.
5. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
6. Congress loses their current health care system
and participates in the same health care system as the American people.
7. Members of Congress must equally abide by all laws
they impose on the American people.
8. All contracts with past and present members of Congress are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make the contract members of Congress enjoy,
Congress made all these contracts for themselves.
Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.
The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators,
so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.
Doggone/GA
December 23rd, 2011
12:23 pm
Actually, in the “8 hotdogs, 10 buns” question, the lowest number of each that you would have to buy is 1/2 the opposite number. In this case, 5 packs of hotdogs and 4 packs of buns. As long as both numbers are even numbers, that hold true no matter what the numbers are.
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:24 pm
JKL2
As for the “messiah”… That is a term coined by right wing pundits and sucked up by their flock…. From 2000 to 2006 I remember many on the right, I know plenty of them, who one could say though he was whom? The “messiah”, but I will let you use those terms. The right adored Bush for 6 yrs until he and Rove kept gambling with the war and other things and lost Congress
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:25 pm
Peter- Expenses up + income down = deficit reduction. You mean the Bush plan don’t you ? This is how we got here
Thanks for another example of obama as an extension of Bush. My only question would be where’s all the seathing hatred for the used car salesman who was elected based on the color of his skin?
josef
December 23rd, 2011
12:25 pm
Bill
Well, ’splain to me then what the G-od L-rd’s got against Christchurch…the one in New Zealand, that is…
Thomas
December 23rd, 2011
12:27 pm
and I’ll be glad to see the day when they stand up for themselves and quit allowing their exploitation
or a) get off the couch b) buy or create a business with an SBA loan c) over hire d) provide incredible benefits e) pay more taxes than necessary and finally f) shoot a bird to the lazy greedy capitalist as you have proved your model
until then………
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
12:28 pm
My only question would be where’s all the seathing (sic) hatred for the used car salesman who was elected based on the color of his skin?
In your bathroom mirror?
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:28 pm
This “tax cut” which isn’t a tax cut at all but simply a defunding of Social Security as you and one other poster pointed out, is going to the people who still have their jobs. It doesn’t do anything for the many unemployed. Just looks like more playing politics, this time with SS money, and everyone fell for it.
Doom, from earlier–My guess would be that the unspoken premise of this temporary defunding of SSI would be along the lines of economic stimulus. If everyone spends the extra $40 per week, it will theoretically stimulate the economy. It’s not saving any starving people on the brink of foreclosure as Jay has tried to imply a few times.
Per “stimulus”, my wish is that the Dems will one day recognize that business cycles, just like long-term temperature cycles, are predicated upon homeostatic forces which don’t require special “intervention” to work. The economy is slowly moving in a positive direction. Let’s stop handicapping our long-term prospects by running up the credit card any more.
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:28 pm
WOW Bill……One need only look at the non-believers in New Orleans.
So not a single Bible reading person died in New Orleans ? Not a Single Bible reading person had their house destroyed ?
Yes I agree with this…..The Bible teaches right versus wrong, pure and simple.
So why are you so hypocritical, as to call the president names, and seemingly an Unforgiving soul ?
How can you call yourself a Christian when you obviously don’t care about the less fortunate, because they are a drag on the economy, and then you… and you push the WAR Machine ?
Where in the Bible does it say to give to the military and not the poor ?
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:28 pm
Peter- I don’t understand why the GOP followers cry about the debt… they did it themselves !
Maybe you heard of this little thing called the Tea Party. That was your GOP wake up call. Now if we could just get one on the Demwit side, the country might start going in the right direction.
PS: Don’t say OWS, because they are going in the wrong direction.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 23rd, 2011
12:29 pm
2 packs of hot dogs and 1 pack of buns.
Single serving ball park franks 8- pack (use 10 freeze 6)
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
12:29 pm
They BOTH suck,
Are you sure about Hebrew kosher dogs coming in packs of only 7? If so then that’s just going to add another monkey wrench into that sneaky inconsistency keeping sooth awake at night. Its gonna make sooth an insomniac.
Attention to all libs,
Doomy will cede one point of order to the liberal conspiracy theorists concerning the great hot dog and hot dog bun debate. There is no doubt. Differing number of hot dogs, hot dog buns, and odd numbered hot dogs (7 by those Zionist hot dog makers over at Hebrew) has me concluding the obvious. It is indeed a corporatist, capitalist pig conspiracy to frustrate us to the point of buying batches of dogs and dog buns until they reach perfect numerical parity. And since I only eat kosher Hebrew hot dogs and buy the cheap shiite for my girlfriend cause she likes the ball park dogs then I have a whole new issue. Packs of 7 Hebrews, 8 ball parks, and 10 hot dog buns. How many of all 3 do I need to buy to reach numerical parity? Its gotta be in the hundreds. Mathmetician in the house?
Grover Norquist was touched by Sandusky
December 23rd, 2011
12:30 pm
I walked into the office this morning. I notice this co-worker of mine in the office looking really sad. He has nothing but Glen Beck, Fatman rush, and Sean Hannity books in his office. He also belives the south shall rise again. He had the some look on his face that I saw on donald trumps face during the White House Correspondents dinner when President Obama and Seth Meyers shut him down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That right there(what President Obama did) is what the young kids call “SWAGG”
I love Michelle’s backside, then again, I’m a Brother:-)
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:31 pm
Bruno
“Dems will one day recognize that business cycles, just like long-term temperature cycles, are predicated upon homeostatic forces which don’t require special “intervention” to work. ”
Good point, but that goes both ways……. Repubs like to intervene as well… All depends on what we accept as “intervention”
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:31 pm
JKL2. Maybe you will answer the question about the real agenda of the tea party ?
josef
December 23rd, 2011
12:33 pm
Before I forget…thanks for all the info on LCM and LCD…that’s the math objective for my little ones after we get back from break and this is a good example I can use with them…
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:34 pm
Peter- The term the Right wing uses when American’s help American’s
Another great example. Americans helping Americans is called CHARITY. Stealing for one to give to another is not “charity” no matter how the DNC tries to spin it.
If you were needy, would you rather get $.96 from the Red Cross or $.31 from the government? Demwits keep trying to increase the $.31 part because they think it will all come from other people, fulfilling their need to “do something” without actually having to do anything.
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:34 pm
TD
7 is correct. I believe it symbolizes “completion” or “perfection” in Hebrew….
If you haven’t tried them….. please do.
They rock. They go great with this black bean and sirloin chili I make
stranger in a strange land
December 23rd, 2011
12:36 pm
how to fix…@ 1222 – by all I can read on this blog that’s much too sane and logical. That kind of thinking has no place here
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:36 pm
JKL2…… Please the message about Iraq was we were “Freeing a Nation ” ? Yes or No ?
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
12:36 pm
A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity. ~Ralph Nader
Republicans act like the house is on fire while holding a can of gasoline
December 23rd, 2011
12:36 pm
@Dumb and Dumber December 23rd, 2011 9:11 am – At least the GOP will now have time to let fly more insults about Michelle Obama’s looks. That’s exactly what this country needs.
*****************************************************************
Wisconsin Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner has apologized to first lady Michelle Obama for reportedly saying she has a “big butt.”
The pot calling the kettle black. Wisconsin Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner HAS A BIG OLD FLABBY PALE BUTT!
ANGRY REPUBLICAN WHITE MEN ARE JEALOUS OF BARACK OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS SMART, COOL, CALM, HE HAS A BEAUTIFUL WIFE AND CHILDREN!
THEY CAN’T TOUCH THIS.
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:37 pm
Butch- Nope, you missed the part where the Republicans could have denied it and didn’t.
It’s called compromise. Overall, it’s the Dmwits passing more useless legislation so they can say”look at all the neat stuff we’re doing”. Not sure if we could fix all the mistakes of the current administration in the next 8 years.
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:37 pm
Packs of 7 Hebrews, 8 ball parks, and 10 hot dog buns. How many of all 3 do I need to buy to reach numerical parity?
LCM is 280 in that case, since your prime factors are 2,2,2,5 and 7. So save up for 40 packs of HN, 35 packs of BP, and 28 packs of buns.
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
12:38 pm
“Per “stimulus”, my wish is that the Dems will one day recognize that business cycles”
Its been a long time since anyone mentioned the regular business cycle. I think of it like a longer term stock market. A good degree of gains, then a pullback and consolidation, a breather if you will to clean up excess credit, inventory, etc. before the onward march again.
For some reason people inexplicably look to the govt to run *fix* things as opposed to letting the business cycle run its course and self correct.This is what happened in the great depression which prolonged it, Japan’s lost decade, and now the stimulus of Obama. Govt doesn’t need to *fix* anything. Its interference simply prolongs the pain and history has shown this. And yet people still look to the govt to *fix* things.
When Reagan came in we largely had uninterruped growth for a couple of decades. There was a small blip on the radar under Bush 1 where we had a recession and Clinton was elected with the slogan “its the economy stupid”. Well that recession was barely a blip. One qtr of negative growth and I believe 1 or 2 qtrs of flat growth. A recession is actually 2 consecutive qtrs of negative growth. We didn’t need a stimulus. We just needed to leave things the hell alone and let the economy do its thing.
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:38 pm
Bruno
“LCM is 280 in that case, since your prime factors are 2,2,2,5 and 7. So save up for 40 packs of HN, 35 packs of BP, and 28 packs of buns.”
Great match…. That is a lot of dogs. Better be a huge cookout
Aquagirl
December 23rd, 2011
12:40 pm
Doomy will cede one point of order to the liberal conspiracy theorists concerning the great hot dog and hot dog bun debate.
Wow, Doomy concedes? He’s been a drinkin’ again, somebody get that eggnog out of his hand.
Out here, y’all have a good Christmas or Festivus or whatever.
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:41 pm
they Both- Remember his own Party caving on him when he was wanting to private SS? That wasn’t Bush himself……. It was his own Party..
Yes they caved on that one. Now obama’s plan to fix military pensions is to privatize the whole thing. Still wondering where that one came from. Of course the Demwits would eat it up because 4% would collapse the system while 100% is brilliant when a Demwit says it.
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
12:43 pm
“So save up for 40 packs of HN, 35 packs of BP, and 28 packs of buns.”
So that’s what I need to reach my numerical parity of 280 to where my perfect number of hot dogs matches my perfect number of hot dog buns. Damn tricky, conniving, deceiving, dishonest,dirty low down capitalist, corporatist pig hot dog and hot dog bun makers. Dey snitches too!
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:43 pm
Great match…. That is a lot of dogs. Better be a huge cookout
Woops, can’t take any credit yet. I only have half the buns I need (insert embarrassed emoticon here).
Bill Orvis White
December 23rd, 2011
12:44 pm
@josep
Well, the earthquake went after the non-believers in that socialistic-secular country. The Lord Almighty was not fooled by the name of city Christchurch, for Christ’s sake.
Back to the point: The honorable Rep. Bachmann rightly says that Hussein Obama’s payroll extension is a game. She’s right. Things are not going to get any better with this stupid two-month extension. We are in the malaise days of Hussein Obama for sure.
Merry Christmas
Amen,
Bill
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:45 pm
Actually, the solution to this problem is to combine the two brands of hot dogs into one category of dogs. That way were only face with matching one combined pack of 15 dogs with a pack of 10 buns. Only need 3 packs of buns to match up with 2 combined packs of dogs.
Please don’t tell my alma mater.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 23rd, 2011
12:46 pm
An imbalance between rich and poor is the oldest and most fatal ailment of all republics. – Plutarch
And to this, the GOP and political elite in this country yawn and shrug.
Thomas
December 23rd, 2011
12:46 pm
Socialism. The term the Right wing uses when American’s help American’s.
that is correctly called charity which the leftist routinely lag behind. they prefer the gov’t take care of the need
starting wars that should not be fought and also not paying for it- mandatory reading should be the Art of War- best rule- don’t fight if you don’t have to
Doggone/GA
December 23rd, 2011
12:46 pm
Bruno – but practically speaking, you only have to buy 8 packs of each kind of hotdog, which equals 120 hot dogs and then buy 12 packs of buns to get 120
7 packs of HN = 56 + 8 packs of BP = 64, total = 120
12 packs of 10 buns = 120
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
12:47 pm
Aquagirl,
Its enough to piss me off and make me want to vote D. I had planned to spend some time today writing my favorite laundry detergent makers to let them know how much I thoroughly enjoy their products. Now I have to put that to the side and spend some time writing scalding, visceral letters to those Zionist hot dog makers over at Hebrew for their 7 lot hot dogs, the folks at ball park, and the bun makers.
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:47 pm
So, in the end, the best economic solution as illustrated by the hot dog problem is for the Jews and Gentiles to get together and share packs of buns.
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:48 pm
peter- JKL2. Maybe you will answer the question about the real agenda of the tea party?
Taxed Enough Already. It’s an anacronym. The agenda is smaller government (get them to do the job they were hired to do, not try to control every aspect of everyone’s life).
- the message about Iraq was we were “Freeing a Nation ” ?
No. We were enforcing UN resolutions that were continually being ignored. It was to help the war on terrorism by getting rid of one of their safe harbors.
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:48 pm
JKL2
What is a “demwit”?
Trying to hold a two way dialogue with you…. but you keep with the name calling..
Does that make you some how feel superior, more informed or intelligent than those who do not share the same political views as yourself?
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:49 pm
Bruno – but practically speaking, you only have to buy 8 packs of each kind of hotdog, which equals 120 hot dogs and then buy 12 packs of buns to get 120
See my 12:45.
Of course we have to factor in the fact that Doom eats a lot more dogs than his GF. At least we can hope he does.
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:50 pm
No. We were enforcing UN resolutions that were continually being ignored. It was to help the war on terrorism by getting rid of one of their safe harbors.
Please give a link to this thought…cause that is not what I believe most understood.
And Why would we invade a nation because of UN resolutions……. and really who was Saddam Harboring ?
Doggone/GA
December 23rd, 2011
12:50 pm
“It was to help the war on terrorism by getting rid of one of their safe harbors”
That would be really great logic, except it runs slap up against the reality of the situation: Iraq was not a safe haven for Al Qaeda – who hated Saddam Hussein as much as they do the US. There was NO WAY Saddam Hussein was going to give them closer access to himself.
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
12:51 pm
Okay. So I only need 30 dogs comprising of BP and HN and buns. I can dig that. But they still low down dirty dogs. And they still snitches.
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
12:53 pm
You poor middle class schmucks.
Hot dogs?
Over here in Doraville, we live on a diet of Dover sole, lobster and Chateaubriand.
Why?
Because we are completely self made men who planned ahead, who pulled ourselves up from our bootstraps and didn’t wait around for the government to do something for us!
LOL!
And the truth be told, every once in awhile I desperately want a Hebrew National dog, a bologna sandwich or the king of all nasty desires – a Liverwurst sandwich!
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:54 pm
for what it’s worth: The bigger franks come in packages of eight. Quit buying the cheaper hotdogs and you’ll be OK.
The real problem is brats normally come in a package of 5. Buns are 6 or 8.
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
12:54 pm
“Of course we have to factor in the fact that Doom eats a lot more dogs than his GF. At least we can hope he does”.
Bruno,
I was just thinking of that because to reach parity we would need 14 of the Hebrews that I eat and 16 of her Ball park dogs. But I eat 3 at a sitting and she eats only 1. So if we go through meals where I eat at a 3 to 1 ratio then when would we perfectly exhaust our hot dog and bun supply and then journey out to get a fresh supply? Putting that harvey mudd education to the test here.
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
AmVet,
Sooner or later we’ll pull you back down to the level of the hot dog eating masses you bougouise capitalist pig.
Butch Cassidy
December 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
JKL2 – “No. We were enforcing UN resolutions that were continually being ignored. It was to help the war on terrorism by getting rid of one of their safe harbors.”
Oh yeah, that worked out well. No terrorist would dare hide in Iraq now.
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
JKL2
“The real problem is brats normally come in a package of 5. Buns are 6 or 8.”
On that we can agree…. grilled brats are the best
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
12:57 pm
Alright, TD, factoring in the 3:1 consumption rate changes our combined hot dog group to 29 dogs, which is a prime number. We’re back up to 290 dogs and buns.
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
12:57 pm
JKL2… Then why did Greenspan, and others say the war was clearly about oil ?
Brosephus
December 23rd, 2011
12:57 pm
a) get off the couch b) buy or create a business with an SBA loan c) over hire d) provide incredible benefits e) pay more taxes than necessary and finally f) shoot a bird to the lazy greedy capitalist as you have proved your model
You forgot they can collectively join together and simply negotiate better pay/benefits and such. Contrary to popular conservative logic, EVERYONE can not start and run a successful business. There will always be owners and there will always be workers. The problem comes into play when the owners continuously manipulate the workers without even giving them a reach around.
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
12:58 pm
Everyone……. Cons, Libs, Indies, Mods, nothings…..
Have a great holiday weekend and a very Merry Christmas
Enjoy the time with your family and friends
Be safe
Peace
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
12:59 pm
they BOTH- What is a “demwit”?
Amember of the Democrat party. It is a reference to their lower education and all the sheeple of the “party of handouts” that follow them and are trying to keep them in power.
It’s fair counter to being called con, neo-con, repug et al.
Vote obama. Free money for everyone!
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
1:02 pm
BTW, Doom, do you have any Grey Poupon?
Damn! I just spilled my pate de fois gras!
They BOTH suck
December 23rd, 2011
1:03 pm
JKL2
One more before I go…
“neo con” is a term derived from a CONSERVATIVE leaning faction/group of people and their ideology of intervention in world affairs to protect what they see as the US way of life…
just saying…..
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Winter Solstice, etc, etc
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
1:03 pm
2, do you and Jm share the same computer?
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
1:04 pm
Butch- Oh yeah, that worked out well. No terrorist would dare hide in Iraq now.
It actually did. If there’s going to be a fight, I would rather do it in their house than ours. As you can see on the news, they don’t have to hide anymore. Let the kurdish slaughter begin!
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
1:04 pm
Take care, They BOTH suck. And here’s to hoping Santa comes by your place!
Doggone/GA
December 23rd, 2011
1:05 pm
“Vote obama. Free money for everyone!”
You can always tell when someone is “losing” the “discussion” – the absurdist statements start flying
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
1:08 pm
Peter- Then why did Greenspan, and others say the war was clearly about oil ?
If that’s true, where’s all the oil? I think it’s obama who said he wants the price of energy to “necesarily” skyrocket.
Butch Cassidy
December 23rd, 2011
1:08 pm
“If there’s going to be a fight, I would rather do it in their house than ours.”
And there you have it. The war on terror, the domino theory for the 21st century.
Bruno
December 23rd, 2011
1:08 pm
Boy, I’m getting weak. The 3:1 consumption rate as applied to packs of 7 and 8 dogs leads to a minimum of 24 packs of Hebrew dogs ( = 168 dogs) paired with 7 packs of BP dogs ( = 56 dogs), giving 214 combined dogs. To match this up with packs of 10 buns then requires 5 combined groups of dogs ( = 1070 dogs) and 107 packs of buns.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 23rd, 2011
1:09 pm
Class war? Heh.
I’m working to foment outright class revolt.
Anybody want to join me?
Paulo977
December 23rd, 2011
1:10 pm
Mary E
…Until the soul of mankind reaches the vision Jefferson dreamed of, I believe our government, which Jefferson helped to construct, serves to fulfill that vision. I saw “the government” do just that during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 1960s.
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A good example of the way the path to awareness of our ONENESS evolves!
All the best…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNcoNxpjytM
JKL2
December 23rd, 2011
1:14 pm
Amvet- 2, do you and Jm share the same computer?
Only one who uses this is my wife. Since she got a new one for Christmas, it should pretty much be mine now.
Unless Jm is in Illinois, I’d say no.
PS: they still think obama is an idiot/crook here. Take out cook county and I’d say he has about a 4% approval rating.
Good news. obama best bud Tony Rezco is getting concurrent sentences! Probably still waiting for a pardon though…
getalife
December 23rd, 2011
1:14 pm
On this issue, the libs and cons united for 40 bucks.
Not a big f’n deal.
Music thread is up.
Thulsa Doom
December 23rd, 2011
1:14 pm
“EVERYONE can not start and run a successful business.”- Brocephus
Bro,
To a degree you’re largely right about that when you’re talking about building large corporations. But small businesses are a whole different matter unless the govt just makes it difficult.
I know a lot of very small businessman who live very comfortably owning very small businesses from being a roofing contractor to a vacumm cleaner to all sorts of things. My girlfriend’s father had a 3rd grade education but started a roofing business and did very well for himself. He just roofed, hired a few folks under him, went after business, and did very well.
I have a friend from Iran who speaks horrible English. He is a carpet cleaner.Big, beautiful house in Alpharetta and coin in the bank. He basically built a profitable carpet cleaning business catering to Wendys and a series of hotels and motels on the I-20 corridor. This guy’s English is so horrible he couldn’t sell water to a man in the desert. But he works hard and tries hard. Now he’s got a few guys under him that do the grunt work while he just sends out the bill.
As for the young men that are the employees of both of these men, neither one of whom is particularly bright? There is nothing preventing them from going out and starting their own business doing the exact same thing and competing head to head with their former bosses.Everyone on here probably knows some very average joe six packs who have built very successful small businesses in everything from landscaping, pest control, to the jobs I mentioned to a whole slew of jobs that you can start out as a one man show and then expand as you build your customer base. And that’s what I myself did.
You don’t have to be Bill Gates. You can be a very small time entrepreneur and do very well in this country. As long as the govt stays off your back of course.
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
1:14 pm
If that’s true, where’s all the oil?
Good point….. What has America gained form the War ?
AmVet - Merry Xmas and a Preposteous New Year
December 23rd, 2011
1:15 pm
No worries, JKL2, I’m just raggin’ on ya.
And since it tis the season, and all that, Happy Holidays to you and yours.
Peter
December 23rd, 2011
1:16 pm
Do you have a link for this ?
I think it’s obama who said he wants the price of energy to “necessarily” skyrocket.