House GOP has manuevered itself into a dead end
“You’ve always been crazy, this is just the first chance you’ve had to express yourself.”
– Louise to Thelma
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Even the folks on the Wall Street Journal editorial board understand that the House GOP is acting suicidal, noting that the squabble with Senate Republicans has turned into a “circular firing squad” and that “the political rout will only get worse” unless they concede the standoff with President Obama.
“At this stage, Republicans would do best to cut their losses and find a way to extend the payroll holiday quickly. Then go home and return in January with a united House-Senate strategy that forces Democrats to make specific policy choices that highlight the differences between the parties on spending, taxes and regulation. Wisconsin freshman Senator Ron Johnson has been floating a useful agenda for such a strategy. The alternative is more chaotic retreat and the return of all-Democratic rule.”
But Thelma and Louise, also known as John Boehner and Eric Cantor, show no signs of altering course, as the New York Times reports:
“Mr. Boehner of Ohio, the first-year speaker who has struggled throughout 2011 to corral his members, said House Republicans would not relent and accept a two-month extension of the tax cut that was approved by the Senate on Saturday as a way to buy time for a more permanent solution. He instead named members to a committee to negotiate a new agreement with the Senate, which adjourned Saturday….
Mr. Boehner called Mr. Obama to summon the Senate back to Washington to bargain with House Republicans despite the approach of the holidays. “I just think the American people expect us to do our work,” Mr. Boehner said.
But he was rebuffed by Mr. Obama, and by House and Senate Democrats, who said they would appoint no counterparts to Mr. Boehner’s newly named negotiators. And more Republican senators who voted for the Senate bill urged Mr. Boehner to get his lawmakers to do the same, saying the ugly fight was damaging both Republicans and the already badly battered Congress.
“It is harming the Republican Party,” Senator John McCain of Arizona said in an interview on CNN. “It is harming the view, if it’s possible anymore, of the American people about Congress. And we’ve got to get this thing resolved and with the realization that the payroll tax cut must remain in effect.”
Obama and the Democrats must think it’s Christmas or something.
– Jay Bookman
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jack bull
December 21st, 2011
7:32 pm
no, he said it about Hussein, and i didn’t know i was playing anything??
Strawman
December 21st, 2011
7:32 pm
“Axelrod said it about Newt.”
And Mr. Axelrod once again proves his graciousness and civility. I wonder if he ever looks in the mirror.
TaxPayer
December 21st, 2011
7:34 pm
As I recall the bipartisan approved Senate version of the tax cut that the house has failed to subject to a straight up or down vote paid for the tax cut with an increased fee on fannie and freddie loans or something like that. The Dems in the Senate like to pay-n-go, unlike the house Republicans who adopted rules stating that tax cuts do no require any offsetting payments, unless it’s payroll tax cuts apparently.
AmVet - Don't obsess over my monikers!
December 21st, 2011
7:35 pm
Paul, it sounds like a good film. I know some, but not that much about her role in Lincoln’s murder.
We each have to decide for ourselves what defines right and wrong.
Strawman, nice.
I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. ~Frederick Douglass
getalife
December 21st, 2011
7:36 pm
Paul,
Megyn would have made the perfect nazi propagandist.
Strawman
December 21st, 2011
7:37 pm
“My point was that your anti gay tone put you more in the Nazi camp…”
A nonsensical point made because you missed the point of my sarcasm in the first place. Mine was a logical rejoinder; yours was an ad-hominen deflection.
Bruno
December 21st, 2011
7:37 pm
Paul– “It is. Goes into a reconciliation with teams from the House and Senate. Nothing out of the ordinary at all.”
Keep– “Currently there is NO vote on the Senate Bill as approved by the Senate in the House. The House has not passed its own bill.”
From this CNN article:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/20/politics/congress-payroll-tax-cut/index.html
“Instead, the House approved a separate resolution supporting a yearlong extension of both the payroll tax cut and emergency federal unemployment benefits. House Republicans are also pushing for a new, two-year “doc fix,” or delay in significant scheduled pay cuts to Medicare physicians.”
Again, this doesn’t seem to be a big deviation from past political practice. Am I wrong?? Why is the demand for further negotiation all of a sudden equated to driving a car off a cliff (see above photo). Obviously time is short due to holidays, which returns me to my earlier question. Who is responsible for letting this all come down to the last minute with all the associated theatrics??
Paul
December 21st, 2011
7:40 pm
josef
They made brief mention of the Catholic angle – when people were repeating gossip they’d heard about her.
Not at all different that what we hear about other groups nowadays. Same tune, different lyrics.
josef
December 21st, 2011
7:41 pm
Strawman
If you say so….
ZamVet
Her role in the what?
Jm
December 21st, 2011
7:41 pm
Jamie Dimon is a very good, capable CEO and a good leader for his company
Not to mention the country
If you know anything about banking
josef
December 21st, 2011
7:44 pm
PAUL
One of the untold stories of the time and place was just how anti Semitic and anti Catholic the Union government and people were…reading the northern press from then is a truly chilling exercise in, well, as you say, same tune but different lyrics…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 21st, 2011
7:49 pm
Jamie Dimon is a very good, capable CEO and a good leader for his company
Worth $10,000+ dollars an hour? Absolutely not.
josef
December 21st, 2011
7:50 pm
good fight
Well, I’m worth $10,000 an hour…now if I can just find an employer to agree…
Strawman
December 21st, 2011
7:51 pm
Okay guys…Gn to you all.
AmVet - Don't obsess over my monikers!
December 21st, 2011
7:54 pm
The Lincoln assassination.
???
And knowing well your position on the matter, I have read some about his history and words regarding slavery, notwithstanding his title of the Great Emancipator. Damning evidence to be sure.
But he was a man of his time. As we all are. Perhaps he was more dynamic in a more dynamic time but nonetheless, it will be easy to judge you and me and the rest of us here, and our words, a hundred and fifty years from now, yes?
Jeez, and I never play Elvis…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ODrPL9-kEs&feature=related
Bruno
December 21st, 2011
7:57 pm
Gotta run for dinner with PB, but will look for some answers to my 7:37 in a little while.
Paul
December 21st, 2011
7:59 pm
josef
There were just a few lines on the Catholic angle. Came in when people were repeating fantastic gossip they’d heard. Not much different than what we hear nowadays about certain groups. Same tune, different lyrics.(I’d written that and had my post disappear when I goofed and closed the browser – then saw you’d written the same. Out of the mouths of two witnesses…)
AmVet
Keep’s right – it was one of those sleeper films with a powerful message. I don’t go to a whole lot of movies at ten dollars a pop when it’s not one I’ve heard a lot about. I do love Netflix – just pop it in the queue and if it’s a lousy movie, just shut it off and I haven’t lost anything.
Bruno
I do think you are reading the situation correctly. Funny about the cliff analogy – ‘cept the car’s already airborne and the Republican passengers just don’t know it. By that I mean there is plenty of blame to go around, but what will the mildly informed electorate remember? “Pres Obama and the Senate passed a bill to extend my tax cut and Republicans killed it and now my taxes went up and Republicans are now talking about another tax cut for millionaires.”
This is a lousy situation for Republilcans. They should adapt, pass it, spin it, then make their arguments over the next two months.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 21st, 2011
8:01 pm
Bruno, let’s try it this way. 89 Senators passed a bill negotiated by both Dem and Rep leaders. The bill will be passed if put to a vote on the House Floor. Boehner has “appointed” Congressman who don’t want the tax cut at all. Now you can ignore that history if you want and act as if Boehner was not consulted and not aware of what the negotiations were and that this is merely a “conflict” between bill versions. I don’t believe it and I don’t believe 89 Senators believe it. As for the theatrics, I am confident that the Dems would be very willing to have a straight tax cut bill with a payment mechanism and leave the rest out. You and I will likely disagree on who created the “theatrics”.
getalife
December 21st, 2011
8:11 pm
The fact is it is the best they could get out of the senate but the gop pretend they will accomplish a year long extension . They know they can’t. They will cave.
Because in the real world., the gop fight for stealing more out of SS because they want to end it.
Now both parties are for stealing SS funds.
Not much to cheer about .
AmVet
December 21st, 2011
8:11 pm
Enter your comments here
AmVet
December 21st, 2011
8:14 pm
Hello? Is thing on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1vJ4sXetw4
josef
December 21st, 2011
8:16 pm
ZamVet
Like so many of the Yankee Sharia school, you seem to think that any criticism of the man and especially the man in his time and place is heretical, so complete is the hagiology. The same can be said for the hagiology of Jefferson Davis. It’s intellectually and culturally dishonest. And, no, it won’t be easy to judge, but all we have is the words left behind and the results of one’s actions.
The reason I said her role in the what was to bring up the point that her “role” and her conviction was on the flimsiest of evidence and hearsay which would have been thrown out of any responsible civilian court and is, itself a classic example of “guilt by association” in a time of hysteria–in other words right where we are at the moment.
josef
December 21st, 2011
8:18 pm
PAUL
Bizarre…I got that post of yours…I took it as a response to my query…hmmmm….
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 21st, 2011
8:19 pm
And just what ARE the Republicans saying today,
since they won’t DO anything -
Congressscum fat pig Jim Sensenbrenner:(R) “She lectures us on eating right while she has a large posterior herself.”
Rusty Limbaugh, fat oxycontin pig (G) “dare I say this, it doesn’t look like Michelle Obama follows her own nutritionary, dietary advice…”
Really? Really?
Is that all they got left, just blind ignorant hate?
Is there any shame left in them? Is any con capable of shame anymore?
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
8:20 pm
The candidacy of Newt Gingrich presents a historic opportunity for a new, bigger form of failure that could clarify to most Americans just how broken the electoral system is. On the one hand, the widespread anti-Obama sentiment coupled with a crippled economy could be sufficient to elect any Republican opponent. On the other hand, despite a long list of Gingrich deficiencies proclaimed by many mute-Newt conservatives and Republicans, he just might grab the Republican nomination and beat Obama. Counter intuitively, President Gingrich could help revive American democracy. He is the failure we have been waiting for, just the right old, fat, loud mouth, hypocritical white guy.
He would be such an utter and complete disaster as President that, finally, a vast majority of Americans, especially those that still vote, would reach a heightened level of despair, anger and disgust that some form of rebellion akin to what created the nation in the first place could occur. Think of Gingrich as the Segway President: all hype and fakery with no possibility of success, being much, much worse that George W. Bush and Barrack Obama.
In other words, the US would finally reach a bottomed-out political state more analogous to the tyrannical regimes that have fallen to grassroots revolutions. The illusion of a functioning democracy would melt away and the nonsense of being the greatest democracy would become crystal clear. History suggests that things must get so bad and painful that no amount of rationalizations, propaganda, lies and distractions can keep sustaining a corrupt and delusional democracy.
Maybe Newt would make a good President after all.
AmVet
December 21st, 2011
8:23 pm
…you seem to think that any criticism of the man…
Yet, I just did that very thing. Strange, huh?
And I know a Sherry (a NY JAP who moved to LA) but not that much about Shariah…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjAP8YHx058
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
8:30 pm
Amvet: I don’t many Japanese girls named Sherry!
moonbat betty
December 21st, 2011
8:35 pm
Yeah, I love Bookman’s pic.
The defeatist, glass half empty, dems.
sad….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B89Osfj8dg
josef
December 21st, 2011
8:35 pm
ZamVet
No, you did not…you continue to promote him as “great” and list him repeatedly as one of the greatest Presidents…your “criticisms” sound like my “defenses” of him, “he had a first rate sense of humor and self irony…”
He does not belong in the same pantheon with Washington, Jefferson, Madison…he belongs with Jackson, Grant and Teddy Roosevelt…
He was the elected president of the United States of America. A section of that country went into rebellion. He was bound to counter that rebellion. He did, successfully. That said, his job performance and is up to criticism…otherwise we wind up with the classic the ends justifies the means and that is what George Bush and Bush lite are predicating their trampling on the Constitution on…
independent thinker
December 21st, 2011
8:39 pm
Tell me on thing that Boehner and his Repub sheep have accomplished since they took over the house. With their buds in the Senate fillibustering everything they have brought the entire legislative process to a screeching halt-Now they are getting hung on their own pitard – can’t even pass a tax cut even when they bow down daily and kiss the ring of the author/lobbyist who monitors the no tax pledge.
If Newt gets the nomination, I am not sure if Obama has to campaign to get reelected.
0311/1811
December 21st, 2011
8:44 pm
Jm:
Matt Dillon only “thinks” he is to the left of Obama. God help us if he gets in for a second term. Then you will see the true Obama.
moonbat betty
December 21st, 2011
8:44 pm
bottom line is, every incumbent should be kicked out next year if they don’t get something, anything done.
josef
December 21st, 2011
8:45 pm
Independent
“If Newt gets the nomination, I am not sure if Obama has to campaign to get reelected.”
Put it to you this way, I’ve sworn I won’t vote for Obama, but if it’s Newt on the other side, I will probably swollow my words and pull the Obama lever…not FOR him mind you, but for the salvation of the Republic. Newt scares the sh*t out of me and I don’t scare easily…
josef
December 21st, 2011
8:48 pm
moonbat
I say six year terms, no immediate succession, at least one term out before reelection…then the lifetime appointments of judges could be reduced to a 25 year maximum…
getalife
December 21st, 2011
8:51 pm
Knowing that Americans elected the w disaster twice, anything can happen.
La'Quishraniqua
December 21st, 2011
8:52 pm
“Obama and the Democrats must think it’s Christmas or something.”
Christmas, no. Kwanzaa, more likely. The Dems’ usual demographic is no doubt bummed out over the possible loss of their 2% payroll tax cut. Anyone with a brain (mostly Repub) understands that all it does is defund the Social Security trust fund – it’s not free $ from heaven.
Recon 0311 2533
December 21st, 2011
8:55 pm
“Maybe Newt would make a good President after all.”
Well I see old Sooth is on the night beat again posting his left wing propaganda that even his fellow leftists on here don’t read. Although boring at least he’s consistent. Merry Christmas Sooth.
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
8:56 pm
[B]eginning right after 9/11 and throughout 2002, the Bush-Cheney administration had its mind firmly set to invade Iraq militar[il]y, and no fact, law or argument could deter it from doing so.
In that, it was following the blueprint that neocons and pro-Israel “Likudniks” under the leadership of Paul Wolfowitz (Bush’s future deputy secretary of defense) and Lewis “Scooter” Libby (Cheney’s future chief of staff) had drafted in 2000 under the auspices of “The Project for the New American Century”, in a report entitled “Rebuilding America’s Defenses, Strategy: Forces and Resources For a New Century”.
This was a neo-conservative imperial project that became officially the “Bush Doctrine”. Its goal was to project, as far as possible into the future, the “unipolar advantageous position” that the United States inherited after the break-up of the Soviet Union, in December 1991.
It was really a hubristic and bare-knuckle strategy of world hegemony, based upon unilateral interventionism—militarily, economically and politically—by the U.S. It was an “America First” doctrine, based not upon modern international law, but rather on a solipsistic approach to American interests and the elementary principle of brute force. In fact, it was a giant step backward that could have consequences for decades to come.
getalife
December 21st, 2011
8:57 pm
“Anyone with a brain (mostly Repub) understands that all it does is defund the Social Security trust fund – it’s not free $ from heaven.”
With both parties agreeing to do this , SS will not make it.
The writing is on the wall.
josef
December 21st, 2011
8:58 pm
Simons
I get tickled when the blubber b*tts snipe at the First Lady…she’s a big gal, no doubt, but it’s a healthy big and quite frankly an excellent role model for the big girls and healthy beauty…Twiggy, she ain’t…and neither are the overwelming majority of us.
AmVet
December 21st, 2011
8:59 pm
No, you did not…
Yes I did. What is this? A damning by faint praise twist?
you continue to promote him as “great” and list him repeatedly as one of the greatest Presidents…
Of course. As do most Americans. But that is not the primary reason for me. On balance, he was a great leader and his words and actions still deeply inspire the nation. And of paramount importance to me is the fact that NO OTHER US PRESIDENT has had to deal with what he had to deal with. Deal with that. There are no comparisons. None.
your “criticisms” sound like my “defenses” of him
Perhaps. But I don’t think so. Using the word “damning” is hardly light fare to me.
“he had a first rate sense of humor and self irony…”
And why I take comfort in your knowledge, if not your scorn! LOL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Uaej22RAzw
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
9:02 pm
Why, Dull! How nice of you to drop by. I hadn’t realized previously that you’re clairvoyant in that you can ascertain whether or not other bloggers actually read another blogger’s posts. Amazing. Have you ever thought about investing in stocks?
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:02 pm
And I believe Joseph McCarthy is still dead.
AmVet,
Funny how the word obsess is in your own name. Don’t worry. I won’t lecture you.
Old Retired English Professor
December 21st, 2011
9:04 pm
Now they are getting hung on their own pitard
I’m calling a penalty, 15 yards and loss of down.
First of all, it’s petard. A petard was a Renaissance-era land mine. One doesn’t get “hung on” a land mine.
I ordinarily observe the entries here and stay quiet, except to step in when josef gets too far out of line. The boy needs correction. But my tolerance boiled over, so to speak, when I read this passage.
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
9:07 pm
By the way, Dull, you will notice that I am usually on this blog only in the evenings. That is because, unlike you, I actually work for a living and don’t take anything from the government.
Also, unlike you — and a majority of bloggers here — I like to read. I like to share those things that I find interesting with my fellow bloggers.
However, like you pointed out, most of them are so busy nipping at their fellow bloggers’ backsides that they don’t have time to read anything meaningful, lest the “lose their place.”
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:09 pm
La’Quish,
Great name and Merry Christmas.
Actually, the dem plan is free $ from heaven. That’s their platform, embodied in their newest plank, saying almost outright, “We will never again pass another budget!” A promise they seem destined to keep. Oh yeah, they say that and “Republicans have really done it this time.” (See today’s Bookman/Luckovich coordination.)
It’s no wonder Obama does so little as President. This is the no-brain, no-policy and no-strategy strategy. “yes we can, yes we can, yes we can!” No wonder that after three years liberals are chattering sagely about how we still really don’t know who Obama is.
But with 9% unemployment, college grads working at McDonalds, most people have a good idea.
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:13 pm
Professor,
While you’re here…. I was wondering about that. In the saying, is one made to sit on one’s own petard, or does one do it by chance?
Old Retired English Professor
December 21st, 2011
9:16 pm
While you’re here…. I was wondering about that. In the saying, is one made to sit on one’s own petard, or does one do it by chance?
Well, Fast, when Shakespeare used the phrase “hoist on his own petard,” he meant “launched skyward” or “blown upward.” Does that answer your question?
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:19 pm
Sooth:
was really a hubristic and bare-knuckle strategy of world hegemony, based upon unilateral interventionism—militarily, economically and politically—by the U.S. It was an “America First” doctrine, based not upon modern international law, but rather on a solipsistic approach to American interests and the elementary principle of brute force. In fact, it was a giant step backward that could have consequences for decades to come.
-isms, -tionisms, -mony’s, -istics, -sistic’s and modern international law…..
Wow, how in the world the world survive before you pedantic dullards came down from your spaceship?
Merry Christmas,
Live long and prosper….. from government largesse.
AmVet - A Happy KwanzChristmakkuh to al!
December 21st, 2011
9:20 pm
I won’t lecture you.
Good idea.
Kam, et al, what is this hubbub about a racial slur and QPR? (I’m one of a tiny few Yanks who even knows what that stands for!) I sure wish the Premier League was more readily available for us plebeians. (I’d trade it in for the NBA straight up.)
And Bobby Bowden throws Jo Pa under the bus?! Wild times on the ESPN crawler…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElnfqLEshEk
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:22 pm
Yes, both actually; one question I asked and one I didn’t.
So one is blown-up on one’s own mine, I see. It’s got nothing to do with another actor doing the hoisting.
Thanks & Merry Christmas
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 21st, 2011
9:22 pm
Ummm, OREP, technicality I realize but a petard does not appear to be a land mine (at least as we consider them in modern warfare as something weight triggered), it was a small bomb used to blow up gates and walls. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petard
Now perhaps to the extent that a both could be used in connection with ancient warfare attacks using mining.
But I do not profess to be an expert of the history of warfare.
moonbat betty
December 21st, 2011
9:23 pm
merry christmas from moonbat betty and jimi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juwuXNFoJVc
josef
December 21st, 2011
9:25 pm
OREP
Most generally, I bow to your expertise. I don’t always, but I do generally. I do bear in mind, though, that one never knows when and where you might pop in. Since I haven’t heard from you in a while, I’ve been a bit concerned, and especially after getting this iPad. If you haven’t gotten one, you might not want to. Its autocorrect would drive you mad!
getalife
December 21st, 2011
9:26 pm
OT The President will sign the defense bill, BUT he is issuing a signing statement re: the detention clause.
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:26 pm
I wasn’t aware that it was Shakespeare–that was the other question.
The Bard continues to amaze me, but as an engineer I have little intercourse with his writings, though I’d guess more than other engineers in my line of work.
So, another question, if you’ll indulge me.
Are students still studying his plays and sonnets in English programs in the modern college, or are we now more about, say, “symbols of homosexuality in modern literature.”
Just curious.
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:28 pm
Keep up,
Like the current administration, your mind is confounded with legalisms and devoid of wit.
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
9:29 pm
“But with 9% unemployment, college grads working at McDonalds, most people have a good idea.”
How many of you think that real unemployment over 20%, widespread misery, poverty, foreclosures, homelessness and despair is “bad?” That is, that something is “wrong” with these “problems?”
I’ve got news for you, friends, this is nirvana for capitalism. They’re exactly the circumstances on which capitalism thrives. Corporations could not be happier.
For, with a reserve global workforce exceeding 3,000,000,000 workers, capital can exploit labor in ways never before imagined. Of these 3,000,000,000 worldwide workers, more than half are unemployed. Unions, contracts, collective bargaining, etc. — gone with the wind.
You see, the period 1948 – 1968 was an aberration, not the norm. Those conditions will never return. In the developed World, you can reasonably expect misery, poverty, joblessness, homelessness, hopelessness, decline, etc. for the foreseeable future, if not forever.
Those who think things are “going to get better” are due for disappointment.
Who the President is, or who controls Congress doesn’t matter. They may offer lip service, but the inescapable reality is that global capital has an unbreakable upper hand over workers. Perhaps forever.
Old Retired English Professor
December 21st, 2011
9:31 pm
josef, I have no intention of acquiring an iPad. I’ve barely mastered the rudiments of a PC in the past ten years. However, I do log in from time to time to keep an eye on you. For such a brilliant fellow, you’re capable of some horrible grammatical and rhetorical blunders. And lest you think me presumptuous, I can assure you that I have shoes older than you. A happy holiday season to you.
Paul
December 21st, 2011
9:34 pm
“Kam, et al, what is this hubbub about a racial slur and QPR?”
I’m with you, Amvet. I’ve found on this blog if there’s some acronym or letter combination with which I’m not familiar, I probably don’t want to ask. Once it’s in the brain cells, it’s not getting out.
Paul
December 21st, 2011
9:35 pm
So much for QPR. Much better to stay with S-P-Q-R.
moonbat betty
December 21st, 2011
9:36 pm
Hiya, OREP,
I have a question for you:
Do you know the origin of the nasty four letter word “F*CK”?
and do you prefer to use it as a noun, verb or adjective?
Paul
December 21st, 2011
9:37 pm
Had to split that. The whole thing went in moderation. And no, there should not be hyphens. But the Philistine blog moderator never read Latin…..
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 21st, 2011
9:39 pm
F&F, devastating attack….. devoid of wit….however shall I survive the news.
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
9:39 pm
Wow, how in the world the world survive before you pedantic dullards came down from your spaceship?”
“Like the current administration, your mind is confounded with legalisms and devoid of wit.”
Fast and furious: rather than posting a rational discourse on why you disagree with that others post, you — like a coward — resort to personal insults.
But, then, what else would I expect?
AmVet - A Happy KwanzChristmakkuh to al!
December 21st, 2011
9:40 pm
Niiice, betty. Really superb choice.
Good to see somebody/anybody? besides me with a little holiday cheer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g1TtJqHY_s
Old Retired English Professor
December 21st, 2011
9:42 pm
Are students still studying his plays and sonnets in English programs in the modern college, or are we now more about, say, “symbols of homosexuality in modern literature.”
At some of the better colleges and universities, students continue to study Shakespeare’s plays and sonnets. However, I gave up on higher education in English when I learned that Longman’s, one of the anthologies in English literature, had decided to omit John Milton from its selections because Milton is “too difficult for the modern reader.” Imagine that! Entire generations will be deprived of Paradise Lost. Can it be long before Shakespeare is omitted because his writings are “too difficult for the modern reader”? Or else some modern-day Bowdler will translate classics into modern slang? Can you envision Hamlet strolling onto the stage and uttering, “Well, dude, I don’t know whether I should just off myself or keep on keeping on with this crap”? I also consigned true English higher education to obvlivion when I learned that large English departments were segmented into feminists and other strange interpretations of literature.
Surprise!!! NOT!!!
December 21st, 2011
9:43 pm
Former Troy Democratic City Clerk William McInerney, Democratic Councilman John Brown, and Democratic political operatives Anthony Renna and Anthony DeFiglio have entered guilty pleas in the case, in which numerous signatures were allegedly forged on absentee ballots in the 2009 Working Families Party primary, the political party that was associated with the now-defunct community group, ACORN.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/21/officials-plead-guilty-in-new-york-voter-fraud-case/#ixzz1hEAc4Fdy
josef
December 21st, 2011
9:44 pm
OREP
Believe me, I look back at some of my posts, and all I can do is cringe! Happy Baby Jesus’ Birthday to you and yours.
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
9:44 pm
Bah! Humbug! Materialist “buy-fest” devoid of any of the original “meaning” of the real reason for Christmas.
Obama's fortunes rise
December 21st, 2011
9:45 pm
From 1811/0311 –
“Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc’-ra-cy) – a system of government where the least capable to lead, are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.”
Paul
December 21st, 2011
9:47 pm
OREP
, I gave up on higher education in English when I learned that Longman’s, one of the anthologies in English literature, had decided to omit John Milton from its selections because Milton is “too difficult for the modern reader.” ”
Well, you gotta remember what these people were watching during their formative years -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeZqW6eqK2M
Welcome to the Occupation
December 21st, 2011
9:48 pm
Sorry josef, was I sensationalizing a bit with Frederick Douglass’ early life conditions?
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:49 pm
Sooth,
Hah hah!
Well, I wasn’t going to engage in petards, if that’s what you mean. I just don’t have the cheek to tell a guy who really seems like an English professor that wikipedia (Wiki!, Wow! (sic)) says that a <petard is something just slightly different than what he said it was.
Geez! I don’t go yanking definitions from non-authoritative sources like that and approach someone with knowledge and say, “hey dude, you’re just, like.. wrong, ya know?”
Thus, it is the legalistic mind begotten, and thus decays the culture.
There, I argued with you. Happy now?
Come early and often for more.
AmVet - A Happy KwanzChristmakkuh to al!
December 21st, 2011
9:51 pm
…the Philistine blog moderator…
Awesome.
OREP and Paul,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVb-nbJh5W8&feature=related
The Emperor has no clothes
December 21st, 2011
9:52 pm
Matt Damon is expressing his disdain for Barack Obama’s presidency again, this time saying that the President doesn’t have any “balls.”
Once one of Obama’s biggest cheerleaders, Damon slammed the president in a new interview with Elle magazine.
“I’ve talked to a lot of people who worked for Obama at the grassroots level,” he said. “One of them said to me, ‘Never again. I will never be fooled again by a politician.’…
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
9:52 pm
“[W]here the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.”
You must be talking about Scoot and Dull who live on my taxpayer dollars with their “pensions” and freebie “healthcare for life” that I also pay for, right?
Heck, I could live fairly well on what Scoot spends on oxycodone!
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
9:53 pm
Paul,
There’s an interesting book written by a Chicago professor, entitled The Closing of the American Mind by Alan Bloom, I think, about his perception that universities in American were going the way that the good Professor here says they are.
I confess, that while I had exposure to Shakespeare in high school, I never had any in college that I recall, anyway. Milton, who?
Just kidding, but I never read him either in any school.
Paul
December 21st, 2011
9:54 pm
AmVet
LOL! Stein hasn’t changed much.
And neither has his audience!
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
9:55 pm
Fast and Furious: how much have you had to drink tonight? Your coherency — or lack there of — indicates that you are PUI, posting under the influence. I have never uttered a word about petard, nor do I really give a flying rat’s rump roast what the fock a petard is. Got it?
Paul
December 21st, 2011
9:56 pm
F&F
Old story to the old hands, but I had a job transfer while one of my sons was a senior in high school, so he remained with a good friend of mine. I received a letter from him, he was chatting away and closed with “must go, I have a test next period in English. It’s on As You Like It but I should do fine. I read it last summer for fun.”
I do occasionally wonder what gene pool he came from.
0311/1811
December 21st, 2011
9:57 pm
Hummmm ………….. just wait until the campaign commercials start showing the equine slaughter houses ……………………………. ;o
Headline: “How President Obama Made it Legal to Slaughter Horses …”
http://middletown-ct.patch.com/articles/how-president-obama-made-it-legal-to-slaughter-horses
Paul
December 21st, 2011
9:58 pm
Evening, Sooth
Frak. Not fock. Frak.
Unless you meant Fokker. But that just doesn’t fit.
AmVet - A Happy KwanzChristmakkuh to al!
December 21st, 2011
9:58 pm
And I would be remiss if I didn’t say Happy Kwanzaa to the lovely La’Quishraniqua @8:52…
http://afroanglicans.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/kwanzaa-main.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSynDh_K0EE
Fast and Furious Spending
December 21st, 2011
10:00 pm
Damon’s played charcters who ostensibly have balls. Hey, who are we to question him if he wants to go crowing to Elle Magazine about testes?
Because Matt Damon knows what socialism should really be like, he wants someone with balls to do it for him.
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
10:01 pm
Scout: when the slaughterhouses were shut down in the United States, they simply moved to Canada and Mexico. Non-story.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 21st, 2011
10:02 pm
FF, well perhaps you just accept anything from anyone…. you might want to be careful when you read that email from Nigerian prince.
I did not realize that being “seeming” to be an English professor made anyone an expert on every historical fact or that meant that they were never wrong or even slightly off in their precision…. but if that is the best you go, go for it. Again, I am just DEVASTATED.
josef
December 21st, 2011
10:06 pm
Occupation
Yes. The only reason I mentioned it was that he himself made a point of the dichotomy between having been taught to read and write by his mistress and “treated as a human” and still be held in slavery. He understood the significance of paternalism as a far more effective method of control and foregoing of the slave revolt than the physical and material deprivation. He took that concept into freedom, criticizing the paternalism of the “liberators.”
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
10:07 pm
Methinks Fast and Furious is none other than Little Davy Crybaby under yet another assumed name.
The nonsensical answers and incoherent, delusional posts give him away.
Poor ol’ Little Davy Crybaby! This “liberal” blog is his singular outlet in life. It’s his “fix” he just cain’t get over there at Wingnut’s blog.
When you collapse in satiety, please close the door behind you.
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December 21st, 2011
10:10 pm
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Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 21st, 2011
10:11 pm
Thank Allah, Scout has got his PETA membership up to date to save those horses…. We can all talk about it over the vegetarian meal Scout will be serving over the holiday. The outrage……… oh wait, this is not about outrage, Scout could care less about the horses….its obout ODS.
Soothsayer
December 21st, 2011
10:16 pm
Friends, I don’t mind telling you I’m in a shyte-kicking mood tonight. I get so sick of these bombastic, lying, heartless Fright-Wingers posting over here on Jay’s blog I could scream.
What I’m looking for is one of their “minions” or “ilk” to join me in a “blog to the death” match.
Please, someone, take me up on this offer!
josef
December 21st, 2011
10:18 pm
OREP
The translator in me gives you an A+ for the Hamlet!
moonbat betty
December 21st, 2011
10:19 pm
The OREP needs food.
omg
gross.
Paul
December 21st, 2011
10:19 pm
Sooth
I’d love to stay and watch, but I’m beat. Bunch more work to get out in the a.m. before heading to the family gathering spot for the birthday celebration. I’ll have to catch the replay in the morning.
And good luck to finding someone to take you up on it.
Pleasant evening, all -
Bruno
December 21st, 2011
10:20 pm
For PlatinumBlack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBBo4s8W2tc
TLA!!
PlatinumBlack
December 21st, 2011
10:27 pm
For Bruno, heart breaker…
http://youtu.be/HH7WXlf9WLk
AmVet - A Happy KwanzChristmakkuh to al!
December 21st, 2011
10:29 pm
Kickin’ choice @10:20, B. So smooth, nothing else could ever touch Santana. I still remember how Abraxas just blew me away.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbhzqoYYROA
bman
December 21st, 2011
10:32 pm
1,000 msgs on this one? Some of you guys need to check your blood pressure…especially you old-timers. Don’t get so worked up
Bruno
December 21st, 2011
10:32 pm
The heart is a lonely hunter, PB:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xU6Tw9RtTk