‘Empty suit with broken zipper’ under attack in Iowa
Newt Gingrich has become the target of an all-out advertising and media blitz in Iowa, launched by fellow candidates and others determined that he will not become the party nominee.
Ron Paul is using his money to savage the former speaker. (”Pointing out people’s positions is not negative,” Paul says.) A pastor backing Michele Bachmann is calling Gingrich “a very fine, empty suit with a broken zipper,” dismissing him as “a glib, wordy cheater.” Mitt Romney says Gingrich is “zany,” and has released an ad that closes with the question “With friends like Newt, who needs the left?”
Restore Our Future, a pro-Romney PAC, is also running the following ad:
It’s apparently having a serious impact. A new Rasmussen poll now puts Romney ahead in Iowa with 23 percent of the vote, with Gingrich second at 20 percent and Paul at 18 percent. Public Policy Polling also reports a tight three-man race, with Gingrich (22 percent) falling quickly, with Paul (21 percent) and Romney (16 percent) close behind.
More telling, a PPP poll a week ago put Newt’s approval/disapproval numbers at 62/31. In the new poll, that has dropped to 52/40, and support among Tea Party voters has fallen from 35 percent to 24 percent.
– Jay Bookman
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Swami Dave
December 15th, 2011
11:23 am
The eventual winner will be the one who steps out of the current fray to state the he or she is running against PrezBO until either (a) the Republicans pick another nominee or (b) they win / lose in November 2012. The reality is that their opponent IS in the White House; not someone else trying to get there!
-SD
Erwin's cat
December 15th, 2011
11:26 am
third
scott
December 15th, 2011
11:26 am
Yeah well in other news…..How about Moochelle Obama taking off for Hawaii on vacation ahead of her husband, basically costing the taxpayers a lot more money in transportation and security costs? Why can’t she wait until the President goes a couple days later? Why is our President allowing this to occur? Why is he such a hypocrite? He tells the rest of the government to curb spending while allowing his wife to waste tax money in going early. This is just ridiculous. If she desperately wanted to go on vacation ahead of him, then have her pay the $1000 to fly to Hawaii business class. What a joke.
Matti's Practicality
December 15th, 2011
11:26 am
The suit is NOT empty. It’s filled with ego, vitriol, and the remnants of decades of dietary excess.
stands for decibels
December 15th, 2011
11:27 am
How about Moochelle Obama taking off for Hawaii on vacation ahead of her husband, basically costing the taxpayers a lot more money in transportation and security costs?
They get bitter, and they cling to guns, and religion, and whining about the First Family having it better than they do.
scott
December 15th, 2011
11:27 am
oh…and let’s go Ron Paul!!!! I don’t think he would allow his wife to waste taxpayer money like Mochelle Antoinette
Brad Steel
December 15th, 2011
11:28 am
based on his sleazy sexual history, i don’t think that “broken zipper” metaphor is really the best one.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
11:28 am
Go Romney
Jay, where’s that column excoriating Obama for being willing to sign a bill permitting indefinite detention of US citizens?
Obama-
Stop killing us with debt
Stop killing jobs
Stop taking away our civil rights
Newtpewt
December 15th, 2011
11:29 am
Maybe the Newtron Fog, pungent and intoxicating to the Far Right, is finally lifting and the zombie-like stupor is fading.
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
11:31 am
Brad Steel
December 15th, 2011
11:28 am
Another blog bashing a Republican (not that I have a problem with it)…must be a slow day in the news, eh Jay?
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
11:31 am
“I’m the real Republican. No, I’m the real Republican. No! I am! No!”
Well! We need to hear from the GOP party leaders. What does Grover say. How about Rush and Armey. And Karl. What have the Koch Crooks told them to say. Does the Tea Party really think they have a voice. HAHAHA! Now that’s funny.
scott
December 15th, 2011
11:32 am
Stands….so you are okay with this waste, fraud, and abuse? Is it any wonder why the US is in such terrible economic shape? I love how you give Obama a pass on this but you want to skewer the rich for not paying their “fair share.” Out of curiosity….what is their “fair share” How much is enough? No matter how much extra you propose the rich pays, it isn’t going to mean anything when the government continues to waste taxpayer money. Then, they will just come back asking for more and of course, you will support them.
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
11:33 am
“Jay, where’s that column excoriating Obama for being willing to sign a bill permitting indefinite detention of US citizens?”
Hey DF, US citizens would be exempt from this provision. Read, son. Read.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
11:34 am
Jay. Toe the line. Or obama is going to drone you into oblivion.
The Times, They Aren't A Changin'
December 15th, 2011
11:38 am
A candid conversation between Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich.
Newt: Are you going to eat the rest of that doughnut.
Bill: Be my guest.
Newt: Thanks. You’re a pal.
Bill: I didn’t say you could sit up here and eat it.
Newt: I’ll get you for this. You can’t make me sit in the back forever!
HDB
December 15th, 2011
11:40 am
What’s really funny is that people were blaming the Obama camp for all of the negatives that came out about Newt and Herman Cain…..when it was quite evident that the ROMNEY camp was the one that put this stuff out there!! The GOP is the MASTER of the dirty trick……and I hope that is quite evident now!!
Jm
December 15th, 2011
11:41 am
Hey crude peadawg
Read back to Jay’s column. He himself said there wasn’t enough protection in the language. It doesn’t protect you.
Peadawg. Learn to clean up your language too.
CJ
December 15th, 2011
11:43 am
Historically, Iowa Republicans haven’t been very representative of Republicans in the rest of the country (this statement isn’t necessarily true on the Democratic side). Iowa might be fun to watch now, but it probably doesn’t much matter what happens there. NH and SC, on the other hand,…
getalife
December 15th, 2011
11:43 am
See jm.
You just had to blog harder.
jconservative
December 15th, 2011
11:43 am
Three major Republican news outlets have all trashed Newt in the last 24 hours.
The latest flavor of the month has melted.
Now it is a Paul vs Romney contest.
Or as Mochelle Bachmann would say – “Paul Romney”.
Jm, you may start cooling the champagne.
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
11:44 am
“Peadawg. Learn to clean up your language too.” – I call them like I see ‘em.
From a USA Today article:
“In a statement, press secretary Jay Carney said the new bill “does not challenge the president’s ability to collect intelligence, incapacitate dangerous terrorists and protect the American people.”
Specifically, the bill would require that the military take custody of a suspect deemed to be a member of al-Qaeda or its affiliates and who is involved in plotting or committing attacks on the United States. There is an exemption for U.S. citizens.”
USinUK
December 15th, 2011
11:45 am
“Mitt Romney says Gingrich is “zany,””
I always thought ZANY was a good thing … kinda benevolent nuttiness … like Phoebe from Friends …
getalife
December 15th, 2011
11:45 am
scott,
You have ods really bad.
Try Atavan.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
11:46 am
“There is an exemption for U.S. citizens.”
Apologize GS and then bow down to me.
USinUK
December 15th, 2011
11:46 am
say what you want about Jm, but at least he got one thing right today: Toe the line
Toe.
not tow.
well done, Jm.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 15th, 2011
11:47 am
Jm: “Jay, where’s that column excoriating Obama for being willing to sign a bill permitting indefinite detention of US citizens?”
As I said downstairs, the AJC, ever sensitive to charges that it’s a “liberal” MSM outlet, wants to make sure to keep everything nice and organized, so Bookman is to toe the line by only ever sniping at the hypocrisy and shortcomings of the GOP (tacitly condoning the Democrats in the process), while Wingfield has a monopoly on pointing out the wrongdoings of Democrats and why they’re all wrong. Never shall the twain meet.
True, AJC doesn’t have them ghettoized into “Left-leaning” and “Right-leaning” opinions like WaPo, but the principle is the same. Don’t confuse things too much for the rubes – we got site traffic to keep up.
Mr_B
December 15th, 2011
11:48 am
“Why can’t she wait until the President goes a couple days later? Why is our President allowing this to occur? Why is he such a hypocrite?”
Why is Scott whining about the first family’s travel arrangments instead of the House’s utter failure to pass a clean extension of payroll tax holiday? why, oh why, oh why? (insert hand-wringing emoticon here.)
$$$ Talks
December 15th, 2011
11:49 am
If Newt gets the nod, the GOP has a better chance of converting Michael Moore than winning the 2012 election. If Romney gets the nod and beats Obama, the middle class should grit their teeth, bend over and get ready for more years of “generous” attention from corperations, the federal government and the wealthy. If Obama wins a second term, nothing changes. Welcome to American politics!
getalife
December 15th, 2011
11:50 am
jm is winning.
All he had to do was blog harder.
I thought Ron Paul would win Iowa but could be wrong.
Mark T
December 15th, 2011
11:50 am
Wrong peabrain
There is no exemption for U.S citizens
National News
Thursday, December 15, 2011
White House agrees to compromise over bill that will allow indefinite detention of American citizens
President Obama agreed not to veto a controversial security law that would allow the military to arrest U.S. citizens and hold them indefinitely if they are accused of being involved with terrorists.
Read more: http://www.wtam.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=104668&article=9514648#ixzz1gcg14kHg
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
11:53 am
They get bitter, and they cling to guns, and religion, and whining about the First Family having it better than they do.
Do you go to church or have faith SFdecibels?
Jm
December 15th, 2011
11:54 am
Trotsky 11:47
Normal
December 15th, 2011
11:59 am
Scott,
where did you stand on waste, fraud, and abuse on …say, the late Iraqui war? Are you jm in drag?
ty webb
December 15th, 2011
11:59 am
Jay,
Mitt never called Newt, “Zany”. Read or watch the interview(including the question). Now I don’t want to say you are intentionally lying…so maybe you’re just accidentally lying.
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
12:00 pm
Just another humorous day in the GOP’s circular firing squad.
Newt’s absurd candidacy is even more laughable than that of his fellow adulterer, Herman.
In my worthless opinion, John Huntsman is the only current Republican candidate who is moral, intelligent and qualified enough to run for president of the United States of America.
But, his proven record of rational thinking, statesmanship and pragmatism is anathema to neo-conservatism and is distasteful to the rabid dogs who run the Party of No. As well as to the lapdogs out here in the hinterlands who empower them.
And as an aside, best wishes and hopes for much success to former Salt Lake City Mayor, Rocky Anderson in his fledgling third party run…
Herman Cain's WingMan(Quagmire)
December 15th, 2011
12:00 pm
Scott – Ok, let’s look at Obama vs Bush on vacation days and time off during the first three years.
President Obama has taken 61 vacation days after 31 months in office. At this point in their presidencies, George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch.
Remember, 9/11 was in 2001………….no one hears your arguement because you make things personal. Stick to facts and people will listen, unless you are quoting AM radio host
Wild Eyes
December 15th, 2011
12:02 pm
And why is the Prez wasting tax payer money on food and clothes? Why can’t he and his family eat like the rest of us?
Normal
December 15th, 2011
12:03 pm
Scott,
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/08/30/political-pictures-bush-vs-obama-vacation-showdown/
stands for decibels
December 15th, 2011
12:04 pm
Do you go to church or have faith SFdecibels?
I get my ass to church damn near every week.
Oh, and I know a thing or two about those bang-shootie things, too.
Wild Eyes
December 15th, 2011
12:07 pm
Why does Obama have sooo many ties?
Wild Eyes
December 15th, 2011
12:08 pm
Why is Obama wasting taxpayer’s money by not squeezing the toothpaste from the bottom. This guy is the worst Prez in the history of the world.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
12:10 pm
Not a good idea for Mittens to play the flip-flop card.
Just sayin’.
stands for decibels
December 15th, 2011
12:10 pm
Wild Eyes, you forgot–why does Obama have to come from Hawaii? Why can’t he pretend he was from (oh, say) Baltimore, and re-connect with family and friends there whenever he gets some time off?
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
12:11 pm
But, his proven record of rational thinking, statesmanship and pragmatism is anathema to neo-conservatism and is distasteful to the rabid dogs who run the Party of No. As well as to the lapdogs out here in the hinterlands who empower them.
ScamVet, Party of No? Of course you are referencing the dumbocrat controlled senate that wont negotiate anything. The same dumbocrats who cant even pass a budget when they controlled both congress and senate? The same dumbocrats that refuse any bill so they can spin it on the congress as do nothing to embolden their chances to reclaim power? Do you get a tingle up your leg when you catch a glimpse of Odonor on the Chrissie Matthews show?
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 15th, 2011
12:13 pm
and now they pull out their secret weapon – Mittens/Tebow 2012
mm
December 15th, 2011
12:14 pm
I see our uninformed righties are at it again today.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
12:14 pm
ScamVet, here’s your champion of the 99%
http://thinkmarkets.wordpress.com/2011/12/11/the-free-market-versus-crony-capitalism/
The children and grandchildren of America
December 15th, 2011
12:15 pm
How much more debt will this man Mr. Obama put onto our little backs? We have very small backs and the debt burden this evil and immoral man is putting on us every day grows larger. Does this man have no shame with the debt he piling upon us? Help the children and balance the budget. Do it for the children!
Paul
December 15th, 2011
12:16 pm
That ad is so misleading and slanderous of Newt. Everybody knows Barney Frank forced Newt to take that money from Freddie Mac.
When Newt appeared on top of the pols I watched one roundtable where the participants – Right and Left – all agreed with ‘we’ll see how things look in three weeks when the scrutiny has had an effect.’
We’re seeing it.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
12:18 pm
Do you go to church or have faith SFdecibels?
I get my ass to church damn near every week.
Oh, and I know a thing or two about those bang-shootie things, too.
So why bring religion into it, and I know lots about bang shootie things too.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
12:18 pm
Our President compromised on tax cuts for the wealthy to get the payroll tax and ui benifits like last time.
He compromised on the detention bill to exempt Americans. That link on drudge to infowars is a lie.
drudge is not credible so that is where GS was wrong too.
carlosgvv
December 15th, 2011
12:20 pm
jm – 11:28
Enlighten us all by explaining how Obama is killing us with debt, killing jobs and taking away our civil rights.
USinUK
December 15th, 2011
12:21 pm
dB – you know about those bang-shootie things???
then this is for you!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twcK2T6aeXY
Paul
December 15th, 2011
12:21 pm
sfd
If I may interject with scott:
“you want to skewer the rich for not paying their “fair share.” Out of curiosity….what is their “fair share” How much is enough”
39.5% on anything over $379,150.
And if new programs come up that ask the middle class to sacrifice, such as no pay raises for two years, increased medicare premiums, then maybe a little something else for the top tier, too. Just to be fair.
Rickster
December 15th, 2011
12:23 pm
When I saw the headline of this blog.. I thought it was about Obama.
Boy was I wrong!
Crony Capitalism of the Democrats
December 15th, 2011
12:24 pm
Ross perot,
That is a devastating link detailing the corruption between the Democrats and the federal government. 20 or so different Goldman Sachs execs and empoyees that worked in either the Cinton or Obama administrations. No wonder Goldman was Obama’s largest campaign contributor. Bunch of crooks. Hard to have free market capitalism when the Democrat crooks are deciding who the winners and losers will be based on contributions. Sick sick sick.
Jay
December 15th, 2011
12:24 pm
So Children, I take it you’re willing to pay higher taxes to help reduce that debt you find so alarming? You’re willing to sacrifice a little more on their behalf?
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 15th, 2011
12:25 pm
‘Empty suit with a broken zipper’ I wonder who fed her camp that line…
That might be the ‘noun-verb 9-11′ of this cycle. It sure put Guliani down.
Paul
December 15th, 2011
12:27 pm
“So Children, I take it you’re willing to pay higher taxes to help reduce that debt you find so alarming? You’re willing to sacrifice a little more on their behalf?”
Yes, dad. No reason my kids and grandkids should suffer for my profligacy.
Tommy Maddox
December 15th, 2011
12:27 pm
An empty suit is under attack in Iowa?
I didn’t know Obama was campaigning there!
getalife
December 15th, 2011
12:28 pm
Another good jobs report.
All we had to do is move the gop out of the way of business but they are still trying to shut government down.
Not on President Obama’s watch.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
12:29 pm
Someone that doesn’t know about bang-shootie things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D2QrT7yYYE
Tommy Maddox
December 15th, 2011
12:30 pm
…recoil…
Butch Cassidy
December 15th, 2011
12:30 pm
Tommy Maddox – “I didn’t know Obama was campaigning there!”
He isn’t. Haven’t you heard, he’s busy stuffing Michelles pockets full of taxpayer money so she can leave on vacation early.
barking frog
December 15th, 2011
12:32 pm
Paul, 12:27, If warren buffett could do it so could you. Your profligacy
should be personal. taxes and spending are beyond your control and
not your responsibility. always vote for lower taxes and deficits don’t matter.
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
12:32 pm
LOL. Ross Republican, the faux Libertarian, can’t speak intelligently about Huntsman.
Nope for this Bushbot, it’s ALL about his ODS…
Ross is like the four corner basketball of yore – booooring, booooring, booooring…
Normal
December 15th, 2011
12:33 pm
Off topic, but typical…
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/southern-baptist-publisher-recalls-1260970.html
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
12:40 pm
Wild Eyes….are you sitting down?
I bet (but not ten thousand dollars)
that Barack and Michelle had
S-E-X in the White House!!!!
Jefferson
December 15th, 2011
12:40 pm
Newt’s ideas won’t work. His head is also empty, but he loves a dollar, just what the GOP worships.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
12:41 pm
Jm 12:24. I am. If the rons won’t cut spending
Carlosgvv. I’m eating lunch. Later.
RB from Gwinnett
December 15th, 2011
12:41 pm
“39.5% on anything over $379,150.
And if new programs come up that ask the middle class to sacrifice, such as no pay raises for two years, increased medicare premiums, then maybe a little something else for the top tier, too. Just to be fair.”
Basically a typical liberal answer. Tax somebody else so I can continue getting all my benefits without being affected. Even though I have absolutely no knowlede about any millionairs personal finances, I’m sure they can afford it.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
12:43 pm
Whoops
Jay 12:24
USMC
December 15th, 2011
12:44 pm
“Empty suit with broken zipper’ under attack in Iowa”–Jay Bookman
The Empty Suit, sitting in the White House, is under attack in EVERY state.
stands for decibels
December 15th, 2011
12:44 pm
So why bring religion into it
ross, seriously, are you not aware of the played-to-death quote from Obama claiming that some Americans get bitter and cling to guns and religion?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html
I was making, how you say, the small joke, nothing more.
Key word here being “bitter”, as in, bitter about another guy having it better than you.
That’s how the griping about his vacations sounds to these ears. (Mind you, my ears aren’t as big as Barack’s so maybe I’m missing somethin’.)
Mark
December 15th, 2011
12:44 pm
Actually the empty suit left office in Jan 2009
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
12:44 pm
Why Reverend Bachman remains in race is beyond me..Huntsman and Ron Paul are only uncorruptible candidates…much moreso than BO for sure with his cronyisms akin to GWB. Too bad neither is presidential in appearance enough to win. I like that Paul needs a new suit but refuses to buy them…
Am I the only one that noticed the new Mormon billboards around town? Wonder if Mitt is financing those to pitch to the world he is not member of a cult…
Paul
December 15th, 2011
12:46 pm
RB
Do you not see the initial Republican proposal put all the cuts on the middle class, nothing on the upper? Is that your idea of equity?
“Tax somebody else so I can continue getting all my benefits ” – which is exactly the situation Congressional Republicans advocate from the standpoint of the top 1%.
(And I know when you said “so I can continue getting all my benefits” you were speaking figuratively, since you aren’t in the top 1%, are you? So you’re just defending your betters, yes?)
scott
December 15th, 2011
12:46 pm
wow….a lot of deflection directed towards me.
First off….Getalife, Is that your druug of choice for your BDS that you likely showed throughout his presidency?
2nd, Quagmire and Normal, I am not a Bush fan and was not that big of a fan of the Iraq War so what else you do have? If you really want to dig into it though, Bush actually WORKED while on the so called vacation unlike Obama who plays golf and ride bicycles. Also, are you counting all of the time Obama has been in office as vacation because he certainly isn’t DOING anything other than try to play golf. What is the difference between his days on vacation and days he is “working.” Regardless, why are we even comparing Bush and Obama’s vacation time. I am talking about a first lady who is just so out of touch with reality that she thinks it is perfectly acceptable to leave a couple days early regardless of its cost to you and me. We are talking about a President that allows it to happen rather than saying “you know honey…..I just told the rest of the government to cut back on spending….maybe you should lead by example and just go when I go.”
Mr. B, Why doesn’t his waste fraud and abuse concern you? It isn’t like this payroll taxcut is going to make a difference really? All they are doing is taking more money out of the payroll tax? What does the payroll tax fund? Social Security. Where do you think they are going to get money to pay for it? Social Security benefits. When will you people WAKE UP!!! The government is killing us. It doesn’t matter if it Rep or Dem. They are all equally guilty.
RB from Gwinnett
December 15th, 2011
12:46 pm
“So Children, I take it you’re willing to pay higher taxes to help reduce that debt you find so alarming? You’re willing to sacrifice a little more on their behalf?”
I’d agree to an across the board tax hike, Jay. NO EXCEPTIONS. Seniors on fixed income, poverty level people, middle class, everybody. Maybe if everybody were actually in this together, they’d start paying attention to how their money is being spent.
As long as you liberals keep perpetuating this “spend all you want, we’ll get more from somebody else” attitude as the basis of your platform, we’re screwed.
USinUK
December 15th, 2011
12:47 pm
“Actually the empty suit left office in Jan 2009″
empty suit … empty head …
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
12:47 pm
I think we can add “cronyism” to the list with teleprompter, socialist, muslim, America Hater…etc.
Silly silly people.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
12:47 pm
A page and a half and still no, “you dems are afraid of Newt ’cause he will wipe the floor with Obama/clean Obama’s clock in a debate.”
Must be lunchtime.
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
12:49 pm
JAY,
I agree with Children….Adding more entitlements to those we can’t already remotely afford is simply poor judgement…Didn’t take long for you to pull the tax the rich battlecry which as we agree will only at most address 10% of problem in today’s dollars…assuming costs remain in today’s dollars.
Perhaps you have some diddy form MediaMatters to pose at this point?
Did you notice the blogging tone is rather chippy today?
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
12:50 pm
Actually ScamVet, I like Huntsmen. It bothers me that he doesn’t have a chance, considering his foreign policy accumen. He would be the guy to deal with middle east, especially after Obozo de-stabilized half of it.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
12:51 pm
Amen RB
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
12:51 pm
you dems are afraid of Newt ’cause he will wipe the floor with Obama/clean Obama’s clock in a debate
Just for you, Kamchak.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
12:53 pm
Wild Eyes….are you sitting down?
I bet (but not ten thousand dollars)
that Barack and Michelle had
S-E-X in the White House!!!!
Was she wearing Monica’s dress?
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
12:53 pm
GRANNY,
Nice to hear from you…are you suggesting your idol BO is any less guilty of cronyism than prior adminstrations? I got no beef with teleprompters and don’t think your idol is anti american and could care less if his superhero is Muhammad, Jesus, Jimi Hendrix or Bugs Bunny..the cronyism is alive and well and ingrained in the fabric of DC culture…
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
12:54 pm
He would be the guy to deal with middle east, especially after Obozo de-stabilized half of it.
Completely ignoring over a half a century of meddling and focusing in on just three years.
Wow!
Just
WOW!
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
12:55 pm
“Obama destabilzed half the middle east”?
Good Lord Almighty.
Isn’t that what Jefferson, Adams, Fraklin and that gang of revolutionaries did to a third of the North Americab continent?
Welcome to the Occupation
December 15th, 2011
12:55 pm
you dems are afraid of Newt ’cause he will wipe the floor with Obama/clean Obama’s clock in a debate
So many phallic fantasies …
scott
December 15th, 2011
12:56 pm
Paul, Thanks for at least throwing a number out there. Now for a follow up question or two. How much would you like the other people to pay? They share the same things as the rich people…shouldn’t they contribute to this beautiful society we live in? How much are you asking for the government to cut back? I have no problem with tax hikes. What I have a problem with is when a tax hike is given and Congress continues its out of control spending and they will come back and ask for another tax hike. When I read what you wrote, it appears as though you are okay with allowing just that. Out of curiosity, what “program” says there are no pay increases for two years? I suppose if somebody is a government employee, that would apply but that is it.
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
12:56 pm
Ross Republican, you wouldn’t know destabilization if you had been in the great SF earthquake of 1908.
Ditto “crony capitalism”.
Otherwise you would know what the real Perot had to say about it a long time ago, particularly regarding your beloved GOP…
USinUK
December 15th, 2011
12:56 pm
“especially after Obozo de-stabilized half of it.”
dude. seriously??? OBAMA destabilized it???
I can’t wait to hear this. Please … do tell … how did he do that???
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
12:56 pm
Stevie Ray
Yep.
In fact, how did those hearings turn out?
Any charges?
Jm
December 15th, 2011
12:57 pm
Fire Obama the Opressor
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
1:00 pm
“So many phallic fantasies …”
That was sarcasm. I thought it was obvious…
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:01 pm
Obama is destabilizing the US with monstrous deficits
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
1:02 pm
That’s how the griping about his vacations sounds to these ears. (Mind you, my ears aren’t as big as Barack’s so maybe I’m missing somethin’
Nice piece of Huffington post drivel. Quite frankly, I would have ascertained more if i tried to read recycled tea leaves off of a piece of Odonor’s TP.
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
1:03 pm
GRANNY,
I certainly wouldn’t be naive enough to think that any administration is above paying back campaigners with our cash…how you can believe that when it appears that your idol had the remainder of 800 billion after continuing tax cuts to play with between department of energy, healthcare providers, financial institutions et al….tell you what, let’s reverse positions and you see what you can find evidence of BO cronyism and I will posit data to support your position…I think its good fun to be able to argue both sides….enlightening for certain..
scott
December 15th, 2011
1:04 pm
you notice how when anybody says anything bad about Obama, libs just say ” well…..you can add that to the list of blah blah blah blah….” Rather than admit that the guy is clueless, they just ignore it. Is it because you have accepted that he is clueless without his teleprompter. Oops….I said that one. Is it because you are ashamed because you voted for a guy who has socialist tendencies? Oh damn….there’s another one. Is it because you are too stupid to realize how much he doesn’t like this country because he has pretty much said it. Wow….another one. I gotta stop stating these words. Face it, the guy is terrible. And although I think Newt would be a terrible selection for President, he would kick the living crap out of Obama in a fair debate. By “fair” I am talking about actually asking Obama tough questions rather than the softballs he was thrown in ‘08. Even SNL made fun of those when they showed the questions he faced versus the ones Hillary had to answer.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 15th, 2011
1:04 pm
Did somebody just say “destabilized”?
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
1:04 pm
But…but…but…Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
1:05 pm
Bush actually WORKED while on the so called vacation unlike Obama who plays golf and ride bicycles.
Everyone please welcome the President’s social secretary to the blog. /massive eyeroll/
USinUK
December 15th, 2011
1:06 pm
right, Jm … sooooooooooo unstable!!
Wall Street rallied Thursday, as stronger labor market and manufacturing data lifted sentiment after three days of losses, while higher quarterly profit from FedEx also boosted equities.
(snip)
“It all speaks to further stabilization and a very positive trend in the U.S. economy,” said Peter Kenny, managing director at Knight Capital in Jersey City, New Jersey. “It will give a bid to U.S. equity markets and make EU markets look relatively less attractive.”
http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/15/9468005-wall-street-rallies-after-upbeat-economic-news
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
1:07 pm
“But…but…but…Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.”
The way Obama’s going it looks like he believes that too.
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
1:07 pm
SCOTT,
Yes…when you take responsibility for NOTHING (as our campaigner in chief) and lay blame on others ad nausea, it’s easy to respond with one liners call those who disagree liers…I hope BO gets a second term just to see if history will reflect he was the only sitting president who did not feel responsible for economy, unemployment, or runaway entitlements…YES WE CAN/CHANGE WE BELIEVE IN= IT”S NOT OUR FAULT..He seems to be admitting that he is handicapped from taking responsibility for issues that clearly are presidential…
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
1:08 pm
ex-pat, in my best Bush 41 voice, “not gonna happen”.
No matter what moniker of the month he uses, “Ross” is accustomed to the Tucker style of blogging that he perfected – the slogan/sound bite/bumper-sticker technique.
The only real difference is that he has had to clean up his act over here.
But who knows, maybe he’ll shock the world and elucidate on the history of middle east “destabilization”.
LOL!
Mark
December 15th, 2011
1:08 pm
Looks like Newt is slipping in the polls! Republicans don’t really wants this guy. They are just desperate for a front runner and none of them are worthy. LOL
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/poll-dramatic-drop-gingrich-support-iowa/258131
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
1:09 pm
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
1:04 pm
But…but…but…Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
And Obama reproved it on a whole nother level. 4.6 trillion in deficits in less than 3 years.
scott
December 15th, 2011
1:09 pm
stands for decibals….I qasn’t arguing about Obama’s vacation at all BTW….It is about his moocher wife’s vacation and the unnecessary cost associated with it. Nothing more. If this was a Republican doing this, would you still feel ambivalent towards it?
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
1:09 pm
Stevie
Other than to you and some crazies in the GOP house there is nothing to discuss. That’s not a “side” that’s a wasteful witchhunt.
Keep us informed about the congressional investigations will ya’.
USinUK
December 15th, 2011
1:10 pm
“No matter what moniker of the month he uses, “Ross” is accustomed to the Tucker style of blogging that he perfected – the slogan/sound bite/bumper-sticker technique.”
or the Jm drive-by poop-flinging …
throw something out there and see if it hits anyone …
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
1:10 pm
ScamVet, are you imp lying that I am a repub? I am A BOB, anybody but Obama. However, I do believe that this country with this form of government will capitulate in my lifetime with the crony capitalism going on. If Corzine skates, pull your money out of your 401k, because this will be the titanic hitting the iceburg.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
1:11 pm
Is that a sand flea trying to bite me?
philosopher
December 15th, 2011
1:11 pm
Children- I’m just wondering if you consider lifting environmental regulations as a big requirement in solving the debt problem..?
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
1:11 pm
scott
were Laura Bush and the girls moochers when they traveled without the
President?
can moochers be …uh…how do I phrase this delicately….Republican?
Cause to my eyes that’s the only difference.
Do you see a difference I don’t see?
USinUK
December 15th, 2011
1:11 pm
“I am A BOB, anybody but Obama”
um … that makes you an ABO
honest_abe
December 15th, 2011
1:12 pm
scott – try coming up with one single original thought rather than regurgitating everything you hear from limbaugh & hannity. your ignorance is appalling. typical right wing nut jobs.
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
1:13 pm
USNUK,
If insecurity didn’t exists amongst the idolizers of BO, why would same put so much credence in monthly numbers…FEDX benefits from factors which have nothing to do with BO and his don’t blame me policies…the market benefits from factors that have zero to do with BO…
The test will be at end of his first term, can he really run successfully on his record of adding more entitlements despite us being bankrupt by any measure trying to keep up current obligations not to mention future value of same. Where will unemployment be at end of his term? After 4 years in office do you suppose he will step up and take responsibility instead of blaming others…in business, if you blame others for your inability to effect change in leadership role, you get fired…
scott
December 15th, 2011
1:14 pm
Stevie Ray, I agree with you….the guy doesn’t take any responsibility for his ineptitude. I don’t, however, want him to get a 2nd term. He will destroy this country even more. You know and I know that he will just get a pass. The media will continue its practice of making the guy out to be the best thing to ever happen to this country. They will rewrite history to put all blame on Bush, Republicans, and those waskly, wittle Tea Partiers while ignoring that the guy had an opportunity to implement his Hope and Change but blew it badly. The guy had a SUPERMAJORITY and could have done whatever he wanted to for a good while and all he did was screw up the country even worse!!! Yet, all we hear about from the media is that the Republicans were obstructionists.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
1:15 pm
No matter what moniker of the month he uses, “Ross” is accustomed to the Tucker style of blogging that he perfected – the slogan/sound bite/bumper-sticker technique.
At least it’s more entertaining than your tiresome stereotyping and name calling ScamVet. If you could get out of your wheel chair you’d be humping Odonors other leg, you know, the one Chrissie Matthews isn’t.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:16 pm
More poor people than ever
Way to go obummer
Donovan
December 15th, 2011
1:17 pm
Based on the vitriol I have read from all you liberals, the GOP candidates have you tied up in knots. How you people defend such a loser as president is beyond any form of comprehension.
Nevertheless, it seems quite plausible that your reaction is a false sense of satisfaction with each other that your electoral choice has been a success in his presidency.
Here’s a news bulletin…the American people are getting an earful from these GOP candidates about the failures of your choice and the American people have realized it for some time. Have you forgotten 2010?
Bark at the moon all you want. Spit out all the insults you want. Behave like spoiled elitists who have bad ideas. Hang together like a pack of nasty jackals.
No matter who runs against this clown you voted for this country will dispatch your Obama quicker than they did with Jimmy Carter.
Butch Cassidy
December 15th, 2011
1:17 pm
scott – “….It is about his moocher wife’s vacation and the unnecessary cost associated with it”
I agree with scott. Can’t we go back to the good old days when ONLY the President travelled on the publics dime and the 1st lady just walked to the designated meeting spot? You tell em’ scott!
Misty Fyed
December 15th, 2011
1:17 pm
Honest Abe. You were able to fit the words right wing not jobs limbaugh hannity and igorance in one sentence and you are criticizing someone else for lack of originality…
Priceless.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:18 pm
Ross.
. Thasssss funny
willie lynch
December 15th, 2011
1:18 pm
It’s sad that a guy like Newt is even in the race. He is a proven adulterer, liar, hypocrite…the list goes on. But aside from Newt, look at the Herman Cain experiment, Rick Perry, Donald Trump and Michelle Bachmann. These people were a machination of a populace that is obsessed with very little substance and all the grandiosity that one can muster.
If you take into account the importance placed on the “Royal Wedding”, the Kardashian wedding and the fact that a guy like T.I. can come out of prison for trying to buy illegal guns and silencers, then be sent back to jail for riding around L.A. in a limo smoking weed, popping ecstasy pills, and drinking codine syrup and not get one but two television shows say’s a lot about how we as a society see things.
The number one lesson in sales is the ABC’s, “always be closing”. The American population is the biggest consumer in the world and not just of material items and the marketing machine known as the U.S. has sold you a bill of goods.
There was once a time when a thin veneer covered the lie that character mattered. Now, not so much.
JT
December 15th, 2011
1:19 pm
@ scott
December 15th, 2011
1:09 pm
stands for decibals….I qasn’t arguing about Obama’s vacation at all BTW….It is about his moocher wife’s vacation and the unnecessary cost associated with it. Nothing more. If this was a Republican doing this, would you still feel ambivalent towards it?
STFU! Did you ever say anything when GW hauled that old hag Laura on vacation?
Welcome to the Occupation
December 15th, 2011
1:19 pm
So, I’m with Jm in this sense:
What do you have to say, Jay, about the Democrats’ latest cave on modest tax raises on the wealthy?
scott
December 15th, 2011
1:19 pm
Granny, What were Laura and the Bush girls doing? Were they going on vacation a couple days before the President or were they actually doing something worthwhile? I have no problem with Moochelle and her daughters going over to South Africa for a Good will trip. I had no problem when Hillary did it with Chelsea. What I have a problem with is going on vacation a couple days ahead of the President to the same place, costing the taxpayers a decent chunk of change, especially after the President himself issued a policy to the rest of the government to cut unnecessary spending. Why you cannot see the validity in this is absurd.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:20 pm
Throw the bums out. Liberals. RINO’s. Socialists.
The TPers can stay tho.
Peter
December 15th, 2011
1:20 pm
Well Newt got divorced twice already, and he found ” Religion ” ?
Wow how long ago ?
Where under the bed ? At Tiffany’s ?
In his pot of ribs ?
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
1:21 pm
“I am A BOB, anybody but Obama”
um … that makes you an ABO
Duly noted but still stands.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
1:21 pm
“I am A BOB, anybody but Obama”
um … that makes you an ABO
Duly noted but still stands.
willie lynch
December 15th, 2011
1:21 pm
Does having a “Supermajority” suspend the need for bi-partisan governing?
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
1:21 pm
GRANNY
Cronyism, insider trading and enhancing net worth all using taxpayer dollars is completely legal so hearings are meaningless. I am not GOP or DEM for the record try to make up my own mind on issue to issue basis…
Name calling is not a debate point Granny despite your continued use of same….signifies concession. Google BO and cronyism and see what you find…he’s no different than the rest…My goal is to keep trying to bring you out of sheeps clothing and take a realistic unbiased view on per issue basis.;….I try hard not to judge your mentality….don’t really know you and your opinion of me is none of my business..
scott
December 15th, 2011
1:21 pm
JT…you obviously have problems with reading comprehension because that is not at all what I am saying.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
1:22 pm
Spit out all the insults you want. Behave like spoiled elitists who have bad ideas. Hang together like a pack of nasty jackals.
Spit insults?
Glass house, meet stone.
honest_abe
December 15th, 2011
1:22 pm
misty fyed – the truth hurts.
i listen to hannity just about every day. it’s my preferred source of comedy. and everything scott has said on this blog sounds exactly like him so. hmmm. i just put two things together. don’t kill the messenger. it’s not my fault the republicans have a bunch of clowns running for president.
Misty Fyed
December 15th, 2011
1:22 pm
I have no problem with the Presidents or the first ladies vacations, We chose to protect them because they need to be protected. My only problem is when personal friends and famly are considered official staff for the purpose of a free ride.
Peter
December 15th, 2011
1:22 pm
Dumb comment !
More poor people than ever
Way to go obummer
Seems we got here getting broke Via Bush and the GOP first…cause “Deficits Don’t matter ” to the GOP ! And starting wars without a way to pay for them is “Conservative “.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 15th, 2011
1:23 pm
Well, Newt might could be zana and sleazy and a few other words they call him, but at least he’s our zany and sleazy.
If Newt loses we all lose and Obama wins. If Newt wins we all win. I mean, he’ll use a bulldozer to push money toward the rich and we’ll have Trickle Down again and besides, you won’t even hardly notice when him and his pals bend you over and Sandusky you. And best of all, he’ll see that all them welfare kids are put to work instead of mooching off of our hard-earned tax money. I just hope the kids ain’t paid Minimum Wage so all the business owners will have cheap labor and we can have cheap stuff to buy.
Anyhow, nobody else pays any attention to how the people in Iowa vote. I bet by the time GA has its primary election old Newt will denounce the Catholic Church and declare hisself a Southren Baptist and he’ll get about 90% of the vote. Whether canadates cheat or act sleazy don’t matter to us True Southreners. It’s whether there’s a R after the name. We elected old Nathan, didn’t we? Any questions after that?
Have a good p.m. everybody.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:23 pm
If Obama the 1%er carrying water for the 1% really wanted to increase taxes on the wealthy, he’d increase the dividend tax rate, the capital gains rate, and eliminate loophole charities
He has you liberals completely snookered
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
1:24 pm
USinUK, didn’t you just love the depth at which the scholarly “Ross” plumbed middle east destabilization?
Blogging for Dummies may be a good Christmas gift this year!
Chapter One: Don’t bring up topics that you know absolutely nothing about! (Unless you are on conservative blogs!!)
Seriously, this second consecutive pathetic debacle of a GOP slate is not good news for America.
Sometimes I wonder if the next headline will read “Republican Party takes millions to throw 2012 election”.
Apparently the ONLY hope (and change!) we now have is that Obama, will in a second term, stop being a Republican-lite and actually start being a champion for the American middle class and the poor.
Sure. Right after Wiley Coyote finally catches the roadrunner and Dennis Miller starts making people laugh…
Peter
December 15th, 2011
1:25 pm
JM…… He has you liberals completely snookered…. Like Bush did the GOP ?
Misty Fyed
December 15th, 2011
1:25 pm
that sounds nice Abe….How many people line up to hear your opinions every day? I guess you have personal interviews with key politicians that give you insights into policy decisions also.
Disagree all you want but if you want to know about truth…insulting someone’s intelligence because you disagree with what they say is indicative of a certain condition.
honest_abe
December 15th, 2011
1:25 pm
final question and i’m out but why do repubs prefer retards?
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:26 pm
UAW is accusing Nissan of humans rights violations.
In Tennessee and Mississippi.
Ok. Insane unions.
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
1:27 pm
SCOTT,
Check out Krauthammer (the wrath of the sheep will be upon me for even mentioning his name..) column entitled Running on Empty…://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-campaign-for-class-resentment/2011/12/08/gIQApYDagO_story.htmlers
He also has a new column with great fun poked a FIGNEWT…
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
1:27 pm
were Laura Bush and the girls moochers when they traveled without the President?
Lock those b!tches in the house. It’ll save money on burquas.
I see no need to punish the president’s family by confining them to the White House unless they are accompanied by him. Perhaps you aren’t accustomed to our ways, scott, but in this country we let women travel without husbands or male relatives. This obviously irritates you. Get over it.
honest_abe
December 15th, 2011
1:28 pm
who’s intelligence did i insult other than cain, bachmann and perry? let’s be real there really isn’t room for argument there. a lack of originality isn’t a sign of mental ineptitude it’s just annoying to read.
Mick
December 15th, 2011
1:28 pm
GOP whiners – what a crew! The nattering nabobs of negativity reborn. No one here is about to knight president obama. It just so happens that he far and away the most capable person right now. Newt is out of the question and romney is not half bad but as you guys said 8 years ago, why change horses midrace? Obama is no where as bad as you say he is and conversely no where as good as you think we think he is. Keep blaming everything under the sun on him if it makes you feel better, any president needs some very thick skin…
Misty Fyed
December 15th, 2011
1:29 pm
Watching the Republicans eat their own and lose their “positive message” just goes to remind me how much ego is involved in this. It’s time for a better class of politician.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:30 pm
Honest Abe
Jay doesn’t permit the term “retard”
Unless you’re a liberal
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
1:30 pm
Good question abe, since you are one.
Stevie Ray
December 15th, 2011
1:30 pm
AMVET,
If you can’t get laughs out of Dennis Miller, perhaps you take yourself too seriously? He’s got some great stuff that is not politically motivated…
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
1:30 pm
Honest Abe. You were able to fit the words right wing not jobs limbaugh hannity and igorance in one sentence and you are criticizing someone else for lack of originality…
Priceless.
The reason we look at multiple media sources is because you would never find the Fast and Furious, Solyndra,MF Global and other scandals about the messiah on your chosen media outlets, i.e. entertainment weekly, rolling stone, star magazine…
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
1:31 pm
Republican, that is.
Mick
December 15th, 2011
1:32 pm
jm
Have you lost your marbles? Your rants point towards some mental issues…
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
1:32 pm
(the wrath of the sheep will be upon me for even mentioning his name..)
Wrath
Derisive scorn
Toh-may-toh
Toh-mah-toh
Herman Cain's WingMan(Quagmire)
December 15th, 2011
1:34 pm
Scott – neal boortz intern –
Why are you so made at 1st lady, Mrs. Obama, did she do anything to you. Maybe you have a problem with Independent intelligent women. Like stated before, you have no game and so now you are made at all women taller than you. Our President and his wife took their kids on a vacation like every President has done before him. Unlike the last President, his daughters wasn’t drunk and getting kicked out of bars in Mexico. Where’s the outrage, the 1st Lady actually shops at Target. Spending all of your money………..Where were your tears when the $18B in cash was loaded on a plane and disappeared in Iraqi. Didn’t hear from you or the rest of the 5 foot nothing neocons aka grover norquist groupies
Son, no one can educate and debate you at the same time…………
Please, republicans, try and debate President Obama on foreign policy…….remember Bin Laden, oh, he was in a picture shaking dick cheney’s hand remember that, scottie…….Our Current President has a picture of Bin Laden, dead on the floor
willie lynch
December 15th, 2011
1:36 pm
I’m hearing the it again, so help me understand where did the term Messiah and Obama become linked?
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
1:37 pm
Quag,
Why did Obama land his drone in Iran?
Paul
December 15th, 2011
1:37 pm
Scott
“Now for a follow up question or two. How much would you like the other people to pay”
I’m pretty good with the rates where they are. I can go along with a Huntsman-like proposal in total, also. But I’d really be happier with flattening out what we now have, but adding new tiers above $379,150. It strikes me as nutty we have these compressed bands, when there are a significant number of earners waaaay above the top tier. Doesn’t strike me as an ideally progressive tax schedule.
How much to cut back? I’d be pretty draconian. Ever notice how, on a local level, the authorities pull the old “if you don’t pass our tax increase we’ll close libraries, cut back on fire and police protection” routine. Panetta’s doing the same thing with Defense. It’s all about “we’ll have only this many planes, ships and front line troops.” It’s never “okay, we’ll cut these weapons systems and these headquarters units and….” I mean, it’s gone up by more than half in less than a decade and these guys are acting like a modest cutback is the end of the world.
Other stuff – ag subsidies, gone. Homeland Security – all the overlap in training centers, etc, gone. Any time you’re dealing with bureaucracies that large it really is a target-rich environment.
“Out of curiosity, what “program” says there are no pay increases for two years?”
That was the Republican proposal to help pay for extension of payroll tax cut. Applied to federal workers thru 2013.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:39 pm
Mick
Re UAW
See Detroit news and autoblog.com
That tells you how nuts the unions and their supporters are
“uaw president bob king came out swinging Wednesday accusing the Japanese automaker of unspecified human rights violations in it’s factories in Tennessee and Mississippi”
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
1:39 pm
abe, today’s Republicans are prototypical reactionaries.
reactionary -adjective, noun, plural -ar·ies.
1. of, pertaining to, marked by, or favoring reaction, especially extreme conservatism or rightism in politics; opposing political or social change.
Thus, their never-ending rebirth of McCarthyism and their failed social policies right out of the 1950s.
Neo-cons are not agents for action, change or progress. They react.
Simply put, their modus operandi is that if non-Republicans are for soemthing, they react by being against it. And vice versa.
For example, look at their absurd stance on anthropogenic climate change. Virtually the entire civilized, educated, enlightened world endorses the science that underlies the theory. So, they are opposed. For them, it has NOTHING to do with the search for scientific truths or understandings at all. The end game is to oppose, obstruct, delay any and all change…
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:40 pm
Godless 1:30. I thought the same thing
Clearly honest Abe is insane though so not worth the effort
honest_abe
December 15th, 2011
1:40 pm
amvet – amen.
ragnar danneskjold
December 15th, 2011
1:43 pm
I would vote for Newt. I would vote for Mitt. I would vote for Ron. I would vote for Michelle. I would vote for Rick P, or Rick S. I would vote for Jon. I would vote for Hugo C. I would not vote for the incompetent community organizer now occupying the oval office.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
1:43 pm
the chihuahua bites back. Way to go poo.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
1:43 pm
Do you think that is our drone or something Iran built?
Lots of propaganda on this one.
honest_abe
December 15th, 2011
1:44 pm
government needs to stay out of our personal lives! unless we’re talkign about moral issues. – retards.
obama is all about class warfare! stop trying to raise taxes! – the poor guy in south georgia who actually thinks repubs are looking out for his best interest.
lower taxes and lower regulations will create a utopian society where everyone prospers! – george bush 2000 – 2008
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
1:44 pm
The food stamp president, more poor people than ever, greater income inequality gap than ever according to the liberals. Looks like Obama’s not doing so well with the poor and middle classes.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
1:44 pm
Please, republicans, try and debate President Obama on foreign policy…….remember Bin Laden, oh, he was in a picture shaking dick cheney’s hand remember that, scottie…….Our Current President has a picture of Bin Laden, dead on the floor
If this was Obama’s greatest moment to you people, god help this country.
Hello, President Obama? Yes. This is colonel Kamchak, and our 5 years of intelligence has located OBama Bin Laden. What did he do? He brought down the twin towers. Would you like us to take him out? To dinner? No sir, to kill him. Um ok I guess, that would make me popular. O.K mr. President we will do it. Thanks colonel Kamchak, now can I get back to fund raising?
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhaaaaaaaaaahhh
getalife
December 15th, 2011
1:45 pm
” I would vote for Hugo C. I would not vote for the incompetent community organizer now occupying the oval office.”
Socialist.
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 15th, 2011
1:45 pm
Calista will put this insurrection down, alright. She’s worked hard to get
where she is, and she aims to remind everybody in her new Christmas
book, “Yes, Virginia, There is a Panty Clause.”
getalife
December 15th, 2011
1:46 pm
Kam is in ross’s head.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
1:46 pm
Uh, oh.
Looks like I’m occupying a space in thelma’s head.
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
1:47 pm
” I would vote for Hugo C.”
Dumb f*k
getalife
December 15th, 2011
1:47 pm
calista looks like a mannequin.
He will cheat on her too .
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
1:48 pm
Well, ok so the Newt bubble has burst.
Next bubble? Ron Paul?
Paul
December 15th, 2011
1:49 pm
scott
Government spending can be roughly divided into two areas from the view of the bureaucracy:
1. Resources that go to the people the program was established to help, and
2. “Nice things we do for ourselves” (from the perspective of the bureaucracy)
I’d take a real hard look at 2 while trying to minimize effects in 1 as much as possible.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
1:49 pm
Our President is beating willard and crushing the newt in the polls doomy.
Four more years.
scott
December 15th, 2011
1:50 pm
honest abe….i don’t listen to Hannity or Rush. I am for Ron Paul and neither of them give him any airtime. You ever think that maybe, just maybe, I can see how what the obamas are doing is wrong? Beat it
getalife
December 15th, 2011
1:52 pm
jm,
You surrendered to honest abe in record time.
Erwin's cat
December 15th, 2011
1:52 pm
Pea – is that really necessary? …It makes you look small
getalife
December 15th, 2011
1:53 pm
scott,
Did you agree with Ron Paul when he voted no on the Iraq occupation?
getalife
December 15th, 2011
1:54 pm
cat,
Perhaps rag looks small voting for Hugo.
Pea is right.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
1:54 pm
Gotta do better job than that poo.
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
1:55 pm
“Pea – is that really necessary? …It makes you look small”
Like I told jm, I call ‘em as I say ‘em.
Herman Cain's WingMan(Quagmire)
December 15th, 2011
1:56 pm
godless heathen – because he was looking for opium for rush limbaugh….
Jm
December 15th, 2011
1:58 pm
Granny 1:48 could be. Wacky as that sounds
Foreign ? Policy
December 15th, 2011
1:58 pm
Ross Perot, Please see below (by Sheldon Richmond, on FFF website)
Excuse me? Progressives — who properly savaged George W. Bush for his autocratic presidency, civil-liberties flouting PATRIOT Act, undeclared war on Iraq, use of detention and torture at Guantanamo and elsewhere, and warrantless surveillance — are supposed to be happy with Barack Obama, who has essentially carried on most Bush policies, even kicking them up a few notches?
If we listen to Chait, there is nothing at all disappointing about Obama’s expansion of drone attacks in Pakistan and Somalia, with their routine “collateral damage” to innocents; his flagrant violation of the War Powers Resolution (not to mention the Constitution and his campaign promise) with his intervention in Libya; his intensification of the war in Afghanistan; his sanctions (an act of war) against Iran; his broken pledge to close Guantanamo; his support of indefinite detention without charge; his policy of assassinating even American citizens abroad without due process; his renewal of the PATRIOT Act; his placement of Marines in Australia with the words, “The United States is a Pacific power, and we are here to stay”; his failed attempt to lift the UN ban on cluster bombs; or his invocation of state secrets to keep torture victims out of court.
Chait thinks Obama should get credit for “ending the war in Iraq” — but hold on. The December 31, 2011, withdrawal date is set in the Status of Forces Agreement negotiated between the Iraqi government and the Bush administration. Obama tried — but failed — to persuade Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to let U.S. troops stay longer. As it is, they will simply be moved down the road to Kuwait, and a large contract mercenary force will likely be left behind at the humongous embassy in Baghdad.
For Chait and his ilk, these all must count as “foreign policy successes.”
And what about torture? Nothing upset Progressives more during the Bush years. Toward the end of the administration, the criminal policy was abandoned and was forsworn by Obama. Yet the detention center at Bagram airbase in Afghanistan has been called “worse than Guantanamo” by Daphne Eviatar, an attorney for Human Rights First. Adds John Glaser of Antiwar.com,
There are now 3,000 detainees in Bagram, up from 1,700 since June (!) and five times the amount there when Barack Obama took office. Many of them have not been charged, have seen no evidence against them and do not have the right to be represented by a lawyer, aren’t given fair trials, and the U.S. claims it is not even obligated to explain why these people are caged.
A U.S. special operations “black site” at Bagram features “sleep deprivation, holding detainees in cold cells, forced nudity, physical abuse, detaining individuals in isolation cells for longer than 30 days, and restricting the access of the International Committee of the Red Cross,” according to Jonathan Horowitz’s investigation for the Open Society Institute.
Finally, in a move that bodes ill for the future, Obama refuses to criminally or civilly investigate Bush administration officials for illegal torture of prisoners. He won’t even empanel a “truth commission” to bring the facts before the American people. Future administrations will thus have little to fear when they break the law.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
1:59 pm
You ever think that maybe, just maybe, I can see how what the obamas are doing is wrong?
No.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
2:00 pm
Getalife
Surrender? This isn’t a battle silly
Erwin's cat
December 15th, 2011
2:00 pm
Pea – I used to read your posts because they were thoughtful, insightful, and humble…I guess I will have to adjust my scrolling…no harm or foul
Herman Cain's WingMan(Quagmire)
December 15th, 2011
2:00 pm
Ron Paul is the 1 and only Republican that makes sense when he speaks. No $10,000 bets or $500K accounts at Tiffany’s, or deer in headlights like Michele Bachmann(she is cute), or what about Sarah Palin. “I can see college park from norcross”
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:00 pm
Ron Paul is fighting hard to win Iowa.
He has people like scott on the ground for their caucus.
The newt has none because he is lazy like fred.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
2:01 pm
Ooohh, quoted ilky goodness.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:03 pm
getalife,
I assume since Dear Ruler asked the Iranians to return the thing, it must be his.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:03 pm
jm,
It is a battle.
Our President is winning.
kayaker 71
December 15th, 2011
2:04 pm
Another Newt rant. Yawn. The only thing that might spice this discussion up a bit is if Bookman produced his own political ads. How many threads does it take for Bookman to establish Newt as a philandering, fat, pseudo-history professor with a credit card problem. Enough already. We get the message.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
2:04 pm
I’m hearing the it again, so help me understand where did the term Messiah and Obama become linked
It stems from your God being government because typically liberals don’t believe in God, or have omitted parts of God’s word to make it convenient for their lifestyle/belief system.
Obama is the leader of the government you want that re-inforces your belief system, as you typically attack those with church based faith.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:05 pm
godless,
That drone looks fake to me.
It is a propaganda war.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
2:06 pm
Sarah Palin. “I can see college park from norcross
Reference to the I saw Alaska from my house SNL skit? Its amazing that nearly 3 years later there are people that still think that Palin said that when in fact she never did. Tina Fey did in the SNL skit. One thing that will never cease to amaze is the ignorance of the typical Dem voter.
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
2:07 pm
Ron Paul has always truck me as an interesting guy. And he certainly has more courage to speak truth to power than your garden variety neo-con.
But he’s in a no-win situation.
He is voluntarily involved in the crime syndicate/incumbency protection racket known as the GOP.
And only halfheartedly speaks to their endless crimes. And in the debates he has been particularly timid.
But essentially and in many ways, he is on the right track, certainly more so than the mainstream party criminals themselves are…
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
2:08 pm
getalife,
Fake drone? You sure? Is that you talking or the medication?
jconservative
December 15th, 2011
2:08 pm
“…the bill would require that the military take custody of a suspect deemed to be a member of al-Qaeda or its affiliates and who is involved in plotting or committing attacks on the United States.”
This means the President who is the Commander in Chief. I can think of several presidents I would not want to have this authority. And I can think of no president who would not love to have this authority.
And if the Commander in Chief refuses to take custody?
As usual nothing is as simple as it appears on the surface.
This is more Big Government, more power to the Central Government.
I guess all the Small Government Republicans are out hiding in the woods.
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
2:08 pm
The newt has none because he is lazy like fred.
It’s not his fault. Once that rescue team rolls him back in the ocean he’ll be back to work.
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
2:09 pm
“Pea – I used to read your posts because they were thoughtful, insightful, and humble…I guess I will have to adjust my scrolling…no harm or foul”
Uh huh…what name did you used to use? This is the first time I’ve seen “Erwin’s Cat”.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:09 pm
doomy,
“I would vote for Hugo C. I would not vote for the incompetent community organizer now occupying the oval office.”
Yeah, that is a ignorant con voter.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
2:10 pm
godless heathen,
Getalife is quite the comedian isn’t he. What’s scary is that he’s serious. He actually thinks the drone is a fake and that Obama couldn’t, wouldn’t have lost a drone.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:11 pm
Aquagirl,
He is out of shape and old.
He would probably stay on vacation worse than w.
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:13 pm
getalife, You have to understand that I am a Vet that served in Iraq. When the decision to go to Iraq was coming around, I probably had a little bit of revenge on my mind for 9-11 and general hatred towards Sadaam. My thought on Sadaam and Iraq’s involvement is that whether they had anything to do with 9-11, to me, remains to be proved or disproved. What is a fact is that Sadaam sponsored terror in the form of paying the families of suicide bombers. I thought it was a just cause and I thought it was in the interest of national security. We were going to take out a guy who killed 100s of thousands. From then on, though, I had mixed feelings. It was a few bad apples that ruined the bunch over there. You had a lot of people that were very appreciative but you have those ones that wanted you gone. I think we went about the invasion all wrong. There should have been more people. Rumsfeld Fd up badly and didn’t care for Shinseki’s opinion. As the conflict dragged on, the more I felt like we need to get out of there but I still felt that we should not just leave and allow the men who died there to die in vain. I am glad we are leaving there now. Obama has done good there to an extent. I, like many of his Generals, think we need some presence there but not in huge numbers.
I found Ron Paul rather recently. Here is another you have to understand about me. I can really care less about social issues. Gay sex, smoke weed, abortion….you name it….politicians stance on those subjects do not really influence my vote. His positions on issues I care about are pretty solid. He realizes that the greatest security risk to this country is that of being so far in debt that we cannot function and the only way to defend against that risk is to cut spending. It is hard to argue with that. If we do not survive as a country, then all of the rest won’t really matter.
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 15th, 2011
2:13 pm
Mittens back on top? It must be that new campaign slogan -
“Keep Amerkka Amerkkan” No kidding. Can’t make this stuff up.
Now…where did he get that…no wait…its coming to me….3 letters…
man, these guys can f up an anvil.
Or maybe it’s dog whistle genius…
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:15 pm
Amvet, how can Paul be timid when he doesn’t even get a chance to speak? 2 hour debate and he got 90 seconds of airtime at one point. Come on…..
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:17 pm
doomy,
I am pretty sure there is a self destruct button on our drones with new technology.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:18 pm
If the drone’s fake, maybe the whole OBL capture thing was fake also. Hmmmmmmm?
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:19 pm
scott,
Thank you for your service.
Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Ron Paul votes against all wars and wants to go back to the fifties.
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:19 pm
Kamchak @ 1:59. And that is the difference between you and I. I can think critically. You just sit here and read what others write and contribute nothing of substance, unless of course you count your snarky 1-word comments at being something of use. You do not have the ability to do your own research. You just march lockstep to whatever the Democrat party tells you.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
2:20 pm
You have to understand…
[...]
Here is another you have to understand…
Who granted you the authority to define what other people “have” to do?
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:21 pm
godless,
No, they have pictures and video to prove we got obl.
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
2:22 pm
TD
While Palin didn’t say that you could see Russian from her house she did say you can see Russia from parts of Alaska.
Not as bad as “you can see from my house” but it is not a true statement in any form………
Bering straight is over 50 miles wide
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:23 pm
Getalife,
No, no self destruct on drones. explosivies are too heavy. The drone is ours. A spy drone. If it malfunctioned or was shot down as the Iranians claim is moot. Obama did ask for it back but of course, that won’t happen. the Irani’s will milk this for all it’s worth to them and we will fly another.
The good news is that drones scare the sh!!t out of them. But…like they say…terror begats terror.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
2:23 pm
You just march lockstep to whatever the Democrat[sic] party tells you.
I supported Juan McSame and Snowbilly Snooki in the previous presidential election, sport.
Is it your contention the the “Democrat” party issued that instruction to me?
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
BTW, if we lost that drone, they have video of it so I would like to see the video.
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
getalife. Thanks for the thanks. I disagree about Iraq not having anything to do with 9-11 but it doesn’t really matter. In my opinion, I wasn’t fighting for 9-11 but rather against terrorism and whether you like it or not Sadaam supported terrorism and deserved to go down. I feel that the world is a better place without that monster and I think millions of Iraqis would agree. I understand Ron Paul may have a different view on our conflicts overseas. Does that mean that I cannot support the guy? Are you telling me that you support EVERYTHING Obama does?
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:18 pm
If the drone’s fake, maybe the whole OBL capture thing was fake also. Hmmmmmmm?
I guess you think the moon landings were faked too…
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
2:25 pm
scott
“You just march lockstep to whatever the Democrat party tells you.”
Don’t be the pot calling the kettle black…. The statement you made is as true for as many Republicans and right leaning independents on this blog as Dem and lefties
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
2:25 pm
I can think critically. You just sit here and read what others write and contribute nothing of substance, more crap on how superior I am….
Yep, Ron Paul ’shipper in the house.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:25 pm
getalife,
Looked fake to me.
kayaker 71
December 15th, 2011
2:25 pm
Received an interesting e-mail yesterday, author unknown, source unknown (although some have attributed it to the Aussies)….
The big danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgement of a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is far more serious than Obama who is just a symptom of what ails America. Blaming the Prince of Fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools such as those who made him President.
I think that about sums it up.
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:25 pm
Kamchak…yet some more stupid and useless comments from you. Great job pal.
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:25 pm
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
Then you deserve a share of blame in the deaths of over 4000 American Troops because that is a lie and you fell for it.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:26 pm
Normal,
There is so much propaganda flying from both sides that I would have to see the video stored of that drone to see the truth.
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
2:26 pm
scott, as a long time Nader supporter, I say take it up with the American Politburo, also known as the Commission on Presidential Debates.
Who are run by whom?
Yep, the Tweedledee and Tweedledum Parties and the corporate owned media. (The Commission is headed by Frank Fahrenkopf, a former head of the Republican National Committee, and former Massachusetts Senator Paul Kirk, a former head of the Democratic National Committee.)
I’m surprised our Soviet-style Central Committee even lets him attend, much less speak.
We don’t need no stinking competitive democracy! The Republicrats (or is it Demopublicans?) know what is best for us.
Welcome to the plutocracy.
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:27 pm
thye both suck. I agree. What’s your point. Just pointing out the viewpoint of that dunce.
carlosgvv
December 15th, 2011
2:27 pm
That “empty suit with a broken zipper” is determined to become your president and will tell as many lies and sling as much mud as he has to in order to get the nomination.
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:28 pm
As for Ron Paul. I do support his views on our Troops and what he would do with them. I believe that is the most sane avenue of approach.
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
2:28 pm
interesting e-mail?
from a nigerian price?
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:28 pm
Normal…GFY
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:29 pm
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:26 pm
Unnderstood, but what I just told you I got from “the horse’s mouth”, so to speak.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:29 pm
scott,
I loved his speech on Iraq before he voted no,
He is anti war and a isolationist.
He wants to eliminate defense spending and stop policing the world.
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:30 pm
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:28 pm
Scott,
Splendid comeback, Well done!
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
2:31 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
kayaker 71
December 15th, 2011
2:31 pm
Granny,
Rumored to have come from the editorial page of the Sydney Morning Herald but I cannot be sure.
Herman Cain's WingMan(Quagmire)
December 15th, 2011
2:31 pm
Aqualgirl – the rescue team joke was funny!!!!!!!………I’m still laughing. I bet if Newt jumped in the air, he would get stuck.
Scott – tell me again, please not what talking heads on AM radio thinks, didn’t you see Osama shaking hands with former vp dick cheney. but you were made at sadaam for his ties to terrorist………….????
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:31 pm
getalife. I understand what you are saying. Again…..I don’t need to agree 100% with the guy. I just think he is the best guy out there right now. It is unfortunate that he doesn’t get nearly any attention.
kayaker 71
December 15th, 2011
2:33 pm
“empty suit with a broken zipper”…. Now let me see…. who else could that describe?
Paul
December 15th, 2011
2:33 pm
scott 2:28
Careful… you’re getting into territory that got a long-time blogger here permanently banned.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:34 pm
“They BOTH suck”,
See Alaska, Little Diomede Island
You can throw a rock from there to Russia.
Guy Incognito
December 15th, 2011
2:35 pm
GFY?
Glad Festive Yuletide?
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:36 pm
Normal,
Interesting.
Do they have the video showing the Iranians grabbing it?
I would like to see it to verify.
Herman Cain's WingMan(Quagmire)
December 15th, 2011
2:36 pm
The drone was carrying the President’s Real Birth certificate to the most important person in the world – Donald Trump’s hairpiece. That’s why Presidnet Obama shot it down. He could not live with himself if that information got into the hands of boortz or boss hogg aka rush
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
2:36 pm
Herman Cain’s WingMan(Quagmire), I’ve not yet heard any news one way or the other, but are Herman’s fans on suicide watch?!
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
2:36 pm
godless
I stand corrected but you must have a great arm to throw a rock that far
Big Diomede, which sits in Russian territory, and Little Diomede, which is part of the United States. At their closest, these two islands are a little less than two and a half miles apart, which means that, on a clear day, you can definitely see one from the other.
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:36 pm
Yes Guy, that’s the ticket…
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:38 pm
Paul, so let me get this straight….A guy can come out and pretty much tell somebody else that they have other soldiers’ blood on their hands but if you respond to that with an acronym, you get banned. Yeah….that makes sense. Wow.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:39 pm
gfy is good for you.
scott,
That is his core principles.
I like him because he shakes up the system and votes against the gop on war.
You have to have spine to do that.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:39 pm
Snowbillie Snooki – That’s a good ‘un, Kam.
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
2:39 pm
It stems from your God being government because typically liberals don’t believe in God, or have omitted parts of God’s word to make it convenient for their lifestyle/belief system.
Obama is the leader of the government you want that re-inforces your belief system, as you typically attack those with church based faith.
This has been another addition of “Tales From The Darkside” The Republican’s Idea Of Truth with a “lopsided” view.
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:40 pm
Getalife,
They were showing something on the Al Jazeera web site, but if you didn’t know what it looked like it was just junk. I believe them in this case. It’s what I’d do if I was an American Military commander in the area and I had the resourses.
Granny Godzilla
December 15th, 2011
2:40 pm
rumored?
great sources.
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
2:40 pm
Glad Festive Yuletide?
Yuletide…..Aha! scott is sooooo busted, he’s obviously an agent in the War on Christmas.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:40 pm
I didn’t say I was throwing the rock by hand. Trebuchet.
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
2:41 pm
That scott is destined to go places in the Republican Party. I do wonder what the Newt and other Party members need with so many with scott’s credentials though.
Mick
December 15th, 2011
2:43 pm
yaker
That column from australia is about a decade old and they were talking about the previous guy president. Unfortunately, his screw up of an administration will take another decade to undo….
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
2:43 pm
Snowbillie Snooki – That’s a good ‘un, Kam.
I Bidened it form TBogg.
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
2:43 pm
What Sarah Really Said:
“GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They’re our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.
The reason why the SNL skit was so believable was because the above ^^^ by Palin was too lucid and insightful to be from her. So people automatically thought that it couldn’t be true.
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:44 pm
aquagirl….yup you got me. Wow. simple minds are amused by simple things. Pretty much sums you up.
Herman Cain's WingMan(Quagmire)
December 15th, 2011
2:45 pm
AmVet – sorry everyone is off the Cain Train………
stands for decibels
December 15th, 2011
2:46 pm
If this was a Republican doing this, would you still feel ambivalent towards it?
Late to this, but no, I never begrudged whatever we spent on the previous First Lady’s travel (and I’m sure it was pretty significant–how could it not be?). In fact, you’ll have to search far and wide to find anything even mildly critical of GWB’s family; my beef was never with those ladies and as far as I can tell, Laura Bush and her daughters seem like a perfectly decent people.
George lucked out, looks like.
stands for decibels
December 15th, 2011
2:48 pm
In fact, you’ll have to search far and wide to find anything even mildly critical of GWB’s family
meant to write “you’ll have to search far and wide to find anything FROM ME THAT’s even mildly critical of GWB’s family…”
Obviously, there were some louts out there that said nasty things about Laura.
philosopher
December 15th, 2011
2:49 pm
scott
December 15th, 2011
1:19 pm
What I have a problem with is going on vacation a couple days ahead of the President to the same place, costing the taxpayers a decent chunk of change, especially after the President himself issued a policy to the rest of the government to cut unnecessary spending. Why you cannot see the validity in this is absurd.
Wow- Have you nothing left to find fault with but this bit of trivia? Do you have ANY idea why a personal decision such as this was made?? Could it perhaps have been a security concern?? Have you NEVER had a family situation in which a family member had to head out later than the rest of the family because of work that had be done?..or something? Whatever the reason, this is so trite as to be pitiful and most of all, it’s NOYDB why they are doing it. I suppose next you’ll be railing that we should make sure they have industrial TP in their bathrooms instead of Charmin…or Scott.
Herman Cain's WingMan(Quagmire)
December 15th, 2011
2:51 pm
Not only does President Obama hate Christians, he hate the wind and the movie Finding Nemo
Now, back to the neal boortz show, someone has to lie about telling the truth
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
2:51 pm
Doom: What’s scary is that he’s serious. He actually thinks the drone is a fake and that Obama couldn’t, wouldn’t have lost a drone.
As much as I know that the “person in charge” has to take the blame for some things that happen on his/her watch….COME ON MAN!! Obama lost a drone!?! Not the Servicemember and/or Commander operating the drone, but OBAMA did it!!
Jeesh Doom – your hate is clouding your good judgement.
Normal
December 15th, 2011
2:51 pm
To Scott,
Believe me when I say it is not personal. I feel that way about all who supported that war. Any who believed the tripe that was spewed about Iraq without questions, to me at least, was not only as guilty as the Bush Gang in the deaths of our fine young men and women, but were doublly so because they were so gullible and did not even try to refute the lies. It is just too easy to go along than to stand up and say “wait a minute, let me get this straight”.
Please
December 15th, 2011
2:52 pm
Kayaker @ 2:25 – in 2008 your side ran with Sarah Palin to be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Don’t lecture me about the quality of the candidates presented.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:55 pm
“Not the Servicemember and/or Commander operating the drone, but OBAMA did it!! ”
Just like the killing of OBL.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
2:55 pm
That “empty suit with a broken zipper” is determined to become your president and will tell as many lies and sling as much mud as he has to in order to get the nomination.
Barack? Of course, he doesn’t have a heck of alot else to run on…
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
2:56 pm
Scott: What is a fact is that Sadaam sponsored terror in the form of paying the families of suicide bombers.
How is this a “fact”? Do you have any links to back this up, (if you don’t want to use the hated and dreadful MSM as your back up — please feel free to use another countries media source: London Times etc.)
getalife
December 15th, 2011
2:58 pm
Normal,
Are you saying the RQ-170, known as the Sentinel was destroyed like the Pentagon said or Iran has that drone?
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
2:59 pm
As much as I know that the “person in charge” has to take the blame for some things that happen on his/her watch….COME ON MAN!! Obama lost a drone!?! Not the Servicemember and/or Commander operating the drone, but OBAMA did it!!
Yet your Ilk (kamchack) say he killed Bin laden
scott
December 15th, 2011
2:59 pm
Philosopher. Too easy. If I was going on vacation in Hawaii, at a large expense to taxpayers, after I just told my fellow government employees to not spend money, I absolutely would not allow my wife to go a couple days ahead of me. I cannot believe you clowns let this crap slide. From another point of view on the issue that you guys will understand, aren’t you even disappointed that this President who is all for the environment is causing just great harm to the environment with these two extra flights(one there and one back). She is increasing global warming with this unnecessary flight. Seriously, what could possibly be SO important to Michelle that she feels the need to go ahead of her husband by a couple days? Really?
Jm
December 15th, 2011
2:59 pm
Scott
You’ve located the lowest common denominator in liberal thinking…. Jay’s blog
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
3:00 pm
Are you saying the RQ-170, known as the Sentinel was destroyed like the Pentagon said or Iran has that drone?
I don’t know about Normal but if asked I would have to answer yes to that.
Guy Incognito
December 15th, 2011
3:00 pm
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
2:55 pm
“Not the Servicemember and/or Commander operating the drone, but OBAMA did it!! ”
Just like the killing of OBL.
ZING!
scott
December 15th, 2011
3:01 pm
Debbie. Do some damn research. Right here from you very own favorite lib website….CBS. Wow. that took about 1 second. I suppose that is more research than you have ever done though.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/03/14/world/main543981.shtml
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
3:02 pm
Scott’s Obama envy is showing. Meanwhile, jm’s Jayblog envy continues.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
3:02 pm
Yet your Ilk (kamchack) say he killed Bin laden
Care to back that up, sport?
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
3:02 pm
Ross
“Yet your Ilk (kamchack) say he killed Bin laden”
Giving the ok to kill Bin Laden is not exactly the same as a drone malfunctioning or the operator of the drone doing something wrong…….
Whether one heaps praise on Obama (as many on the right did for Bush when Sadam was captured) or says he deserves no credit….. the drone and Bin Laden do not make a good analogy
Please try another one if you do not mind
Thanks
philosopher
December 15th, 2011
3:03 pm
jm: you sure do spend a lot of time and energy on this lowest common denominator..is it all just so you can shout, “Obama’s a Muslim’?
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
3:03 pm
Debbiedoright,
I think you read too much into my statement to getalife. Of course its not Obama’s fault a drone got lost. It is as you say ridiculous to blame him for every little military venture that can or did go wrong. And I certainly don’t blame the man for when an errant drone strike kills Pakistani civilians. He is taking the fight straight to them even if it is inside of Pakistan which is something W was loathe to do.
Hell I don’t blame Jimmy Carter for the failed operation to rescue the hostages in Iran back in 79. I was just relating to getalife that in his worldview Obama can do no wrong and W can do no right. Likewise there are of course some righties who believe the opposite.
But just to let you know Debbie I’m not going to be razzing you on poitics today. Instead I have one question for you. Who pray tell who is playing in the bcs title game opposite LSwho? Hee hee hee! Take that Debbiedo!
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
3:03 pm
Jm
Scott
“You’ve located the lowest common denominator in liberal thinking…. Jay’s blog”
Yet you come here to spout right leaning talking points daily
What exactly does that say about you?
Erwin's cat
December 15th, 2011
3:04 pm
Pea – Uh huh…what name did you used to use? This is the first time I’ve seen “Erwin’s Cat”.
———————————
aka Schrodinger’s cat…I had no idea Schrodinger’s cat had gone as mainstream as it had when I picked that moniker so I defaulted to Erwin’s cat as in Erwin Schrodinger…not quite as obviously tied to the quantum world
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:06 pm
scott,
Did you get upset with w breaking the vacation record?
Did you get upset when he showed up falling down drunk at the Olympics?
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
3:08 pm
Scott: I wasn’t fighting for 9-11 but rather against terrorism and whether you like it or not Sadaam supported terrorism and deserved to go down.
You do know, don’t you, that America has sponsored more terrorists than Saddam ever did? Americans funded Bin Laden in Afghanistan against the Russians, they funded the Sandinistas in S. America, etc. etc.
US Fund Terror Groups to sow chaos in Iran
Mr_B
December 15th, 2011
3:09 pm
Erwin’s Cat: Ah… the quantum world; the dreams that stuff is amde of.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:09 pm
doomy.
LSU will beat Bama again to leave no doubt they are the Champs.
Or they lose and be the co champs.
A win win if you will.
theyeshaveit
December 15th, 2011
3:10 pm
Just a thought…
The GOP started its campaign the moment Obama took office. Over the course of countless debates, caucuses, and polls only one candidate ever had a real chance – Romney.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
3:11 pm
It makes an excellent point, They BOTH. The Obamanauts give BO full credit for good things (such as the successful conclusion of the Iraqi war) he had very little to do with and they hold him to no responsibility for the things he’s had his hand in for 3 years (the economy, for example).
If BO gets praise for approving the raid on OBL’s compound or for the killing of terrorists in Pakistan with drones, then he deserves blame for authorizing the spy mission over Iran that resulted some of our best tech ending up in the hands of the Iranians.
It’s a tough job, too bad he’s not up to it.
scott
December 15th, 2011
3:12 pm
debbie….okay. way to deflect. and so did Sadaam. what’s your point? Not that I care anyways.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:12 pm
godless,
The Pentagon said the drone was destroyed.
Do you believe Iran?
Erwin's cat
December 15th, 2011
3:13 pm
Mr B…you a Disch fan?
Generation$crewed
December 15th, 2011
3:14 pm
getalife,
no it does not.
You can take the word of the WH press secretary, or you can take the word of the guy who wrote the BILL, unless Obama is now adding and subtracting what he wants from bills
so no bowing yet, nor will there ever be any to a hypocrit of your caliber, sorry to disappoint.
scott
December 15th, 2011
3:14 pm
alright loony lefties. thank you for amusing me for a couple of hours. have a nice night. only about 11 months until we have a new President-elect. YAY!!!! Maybe Obama can go on vacation for the entire time so he will stop ruining and dividing the country.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
3:15 pm
Philosopher
Obama is Muslim. What’s it to you?
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
3:15 pm
Godless
“If BO gets praise for approving the raid on OBL’s compound or for the killing of terrorists in Pakistan with drones, then he deserves blame for authorizing the spy mission over Iran that resulted some of our best tech ending up in the hands of the Iranians.”
Using that logic then I guess you blame the sitting President at the time for every soldier who has been injured or lost their life in Iraq or Afghanistan?
I’m not saying Obama is great by any means; however when I look at my current choices…….. he will probably get my vote
Generation$crewed
December 15th, 2011
3:16 pm
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:12 pm
This coming from a person who believes the White House press secretary, the person whos job it is to spin things in favor of the presidents public percetion over the person who put pen to paper and authored the bill.
Be wary of this ones sense of judgement.
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
3:17 pm
Just darn it! That Obama done gone and give the Chinese our aircraft carrier plans too!. What next! Will we fund the construction of their entire Navy and Air Force and then give them the passwords to the Pentagon computers so they can steal our invasion of the world plans.
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
3:18 pm
Perot: Yet your Ilk (kamchack) say he killed Bin laden
He AUTHORIZED the strike on Bin Laden. He should get credit for it. If it would’ve backfired and he would’ve failed, i can bet every dime i’ve ever owned that those righteous righty people would’ve been more htan happy to give him credit for FAILING.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
3:19 pm
Heads now exploding
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
3:21 pm
Heads now exploding
Just screw another one on, jm. You’ll be as good as new.
midtownguy
December 15th, 2011
3:21 pm
“I didn’t really mean to cheat on my wife(s), Lord, it was just that my zipper was brorken”
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
3:24 pm
Normal: Any who believed the tripe that was spewed about Iraq without questions, to me at least, was not only as guilty as the Bush Gang in the deaths of our fine young men and women, but were doublly so because they were so gullible and did not even try to refute the lies.
Word.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:24 pm
godless,
Ask aq and obl if he is not up to it.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
3:24 pm
“You do know, don’t you, that America has sponsored more terrorists than Saddam ever did? Americans funded Bin Laden in Afghanistan against the Russians, they funded the Sandinistas in S. America,” etc. etc- Debbiedoright
Debbiedo,
The U.S. has funded more terrorists than Saddamm? Unfortunately you are probably not only right but more so than you think. We not only funded the entire Mujahadeen movement to counter the Soviets in Afgh. but we’ve historically funded numerous brutal dictatorships during the cold war. Other terrorist organizations not so much but the funding of the Mujaheedin alone who some of the later became terrorists- Bin Laden, gives us the possible edge over Saddamm in pure numbers of terrorists possibly funded. Saddamm was a dangerous and brutal man who may have killed up to 1 million of his own people so I’m not sorry that he’s gone. But he also was at one time an ally of the U.S. in his fight against the mullahs in Iran. And we funded him. Politics makes strange bedfellows. Strange indeed.
We didn’t fund the communist Sandinistas though. I think you have them confused with the contra guerrillas who we did fund to overthrow the Marxist Sandinista regime in Nicaragua. I wouldn’t call them terrorists though since in my view they were fighting a Marxist dictatorship. Now could some of them committed some atrocities? Certainly.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
3:25 pm
“Using that logic then I guess you blame the sitting President at the time for every soldier who has been injured or lost their life in Iraq or Afghanistan? ”
AmVet does.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:26 pm
GS,
You are wrong.
jewcowboy
December 15th, 2011
3:27 pm
Synonyms for ilk:
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http://youtu.be/v3rhQc666Sg
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
3:28 pm
TD
Sad thing about fighting the Sandinistas is that the US didn’t win anything….
Ortega is back in power
I know that is a side not; however I thought it was worth mentioning
Mr_B
December 15th, 2011
3:28 pm
Cat: Disch appears to be in different probability cloud than I currently might occupy>
Heahten: Obama gets no credit for “the successful completion of the Iraq War,” since there was never a clear idea of what the goal of the war was. (Well, maybe, if you count a thinly veiled attempt to secure access to Iraqi oil fields.) He does deserve some credit for preventing a total meltdown of the American economy in the face of mindless GOP oppostion.
If the drone design didn’t include some mechanism to make whatever might be left after an unplanned landing completely unrecognizable and unusable, I’d say that was the fault of whoever drew up the specs for the thing. I’m guessing that wasn’t a guy whose specialty was Constitutional law.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
3:28 pm
get,
That seems to be news that only you have.
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
3:29 pm
Doom just read your post, (I’m trying to catch up sorry — I’m on a concall and they’re actualy expecting me to PARTICIPATE!!!), and I have only two words to say to you.
ACCEPT DEFEAT.
oops one more……
GRACIOUSLY
Arizona Immigration Law Wrong In So Many Ways
December 15th, 2011
3:30 pm
Feds say Arpaio violated civil rights
PHOENIX (AP) — The federal government issued a scathing report Thursday that outlines how Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s office has committed a wide range of civil rights violations against Latinos, including a pattern of racial profiling and discrimination and carrying out heavy-handed immigration patrols based on racially charged citizen complaints.
http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-feds-arpaio-violated-civil-rights-164947314.html
moonbat betty
December 15th, 2011
3:31 pm
May I have your attention please?
Coverage of Obama taking Biden for a walk on the beach has recently been released.
Enjoy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cqOEr_yfak
jewcowboy
December 15th, 2011
3:31 pm
I know someone who wants Romney to be the candidate: http://youtu.be/fxOSwl1p5RQ
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:31 pm
No godless.
Our President does and said it.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
3:31 pm
Mr_B. “Obama gets no credit for “the successful completion of the Iraq War,” since there was never a clear idea of what the goal of the war was. ”
President Obama called the war a success just last night. And this morning the praise for Mr. Obama’s completion of the war was piled very high right here on this very blog.
Try to keep up.
Mr_B
December 15th, 2011
3:32 pm
“I wouldn’t call them terrorists though since in my view they were fighting a Marxist dictatorship.”
Terrorism is a tactic. If you use terror as a weapon,you are by definition a terrorist. Your motives make no difference.
Similarly, if you engage in torture, you become a torturer. Your motives do not turn you into an “enhanced interrogator.”
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
3:33 pm
“Our President does and said it.”
Hadn’t heard that. Linkee, please?
jewcowboy
December 15th, 2011
3:33 pm
moonbat betty @ 3.31,
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
3:34 pm
scott: debbie….okay. way to deflect. and so did Sadaam. what’s your point? Not that I care anyways.
not deflecting — I’m reading about 10 minutes behind the actual posts; so if I posted something that you’ve already “spoke on”, sorry. I guess you’ll either have to bare with me or skip my posts. You decide.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:35 pm
cons are horrible sore losers and never get over losing.
They can’t even admit when they are dead wrong.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:36 pm
godless,
He said it or I would not post it.
I am not a lying con and will admit when I am wrong.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
3:37 pm
G$ u right
moonbat betty
December 15th, 2011
3:38 pm
“cons are horrible sore losers and never get over losing.”
Yeah, and Gore had the election stolen from him in 2000.
Can we make some poorage (sic) with ilk and minions?
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
3:38 pm
Your motives do not turn you into an “enhanced interrogator.”
Gasp! You mean to say… no… I cannot hear it!
Obama is over
December 15th, 2011
3:39 pm
It is the time of year when people assess the accomplishments of the past year and strategize on what to expect and where to invest in the coming election year. First of all, it is going to suck because this race is going to be the nastiest 24/7 in your face pr campaign ever. James Taranto in the WSJ today points out that the Obama campaign is soliciting email addresses of Republicans so that the campaign can send emails congratulating them for donations made in their name. Pretty sad when the White House feels the need for an organized Spam project. What’s next, robo-dialing prank phone calls? Hey Granny, your refrigerator’s running, better go catch it. Barclay’s Capital this week released their prognostication for the year. They suggest that 2012 will be like 1952, 1976, 1980, and 1992. In each of these presidential election years, the economy was struggling. In each, the party of the candidate in power lost in the general election. Those prior periods followed bad recessions and featured declining presidential approval ratings, with employment and/or inflation serving as the focus of debate. Barclays predicts that stock market volatility will increase going into the Republican primaries, subside in March, and pick up once again in August with the conventions.
Misty Fyed
December 15th, 2011
3:39 pm
I get the idea that “getalife” doesn’t like conservatives…
Just a guess.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
3:40 pm
Obama
Free the American people
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
3:40 pm
getalife,
Well inform Dr. Google because he can’t find it either.
Anyone else heard that the White House says Iran did not capture a drone?
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
3:40 pm
They BOTH Suck,
The irony of Daniel Ortega now being back in power is not lost on me. Funny how things eventually work out. Its as ironic as fighting with Bin Laden to expel the Soviets only to have him bomb the WTC 20 years later and then us having to hunt him down and kill him. Or with backing Saddam against the mullahs only to invade him years later and expel him. Life is stranger than fiction.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
3:41 pm
Yeah, and Gore had the election stolen from him in 2000.
Yeah, and the smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
Erwin's cat
December 15th, 2011
3:42 pm
godless I thought I heard Obama ask Iran for the drone back..if they have one it’s not by accident
Misty Fyed
December 15th, 2011
3:42 pm
Godless,
I can’t quote it but a “gov’t official” is claiming the drone is the wrong color and has other incosistencies in appearance.
Gale
December 15th, 2011
3:42 pm
I am not able to keep up either. But I have a question for the military types here. How is it we have a sophisticated machine flying over hostile territory, and it does not have a self-destruct device? What I cannot comprehend is why the Iranians have a drone and not simply debris spread over several miles.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
3:44 pm
MR_B,
I don’t recall the contras engaging in much if any of what I construe to be terrorism- blowing up pizza parlors or crowded marketplaces, purposely taking out civilian casualties as a course of warfare. Its possible they did this and I don’t remember but I don’t think it was a policy of the contras to attack civilian targets with terrorist attacks.
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
3:44 pm
Gasp! You mean to say… no… I cannot hear it!
Misty Fyed
December 15th, 2011
3:44 pm
Gale,
The possibility is someone has come up with a way to hijack the signal controlling the drone. If that is the case, the drone would not know to self destruct.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:45 pm
No godless,
He said ask obl and aq about appeasing like the gop claim.
All he said about the drone was he wanted it back.
Try to keep up con.
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
3:45 pm
TD
I would have to agree. The US at times regardless of Ds or Rs can get in bed with some strange people then wonder why those same people bite us in the a$$ when we least expect it.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
3:46 pm
Erwin,
That’s what I read. Why he would ask for something that they don’t have would be a good question for getalife.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
3:46 pm
Americans want to be free
Obama. Free our people
moonbat betty
December 15th, 2011
3:47 pm
“Yeah, and the smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.”
as getalife would say…sore loooooser
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
3:47 pm
heathen, even after you graduate from the fifth grade, you still don’t get to speak for me.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
3:47 pm
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
3:29 pm
“Doom just read your post, (I’m trying to catch up sorry — I’m on a concall and they’re actualy expecting me to PARTICIPATE!!!), and I have only two words to say to you.
ACCEPT DEFEAT.”
Reminds me of that commercial where the young guy is making faces cause he thinks its a conference call but the guy holding the conference call is actually in the room.
Anyway I got one thing to say to your comment about accepting defeat.
PAYBACK!
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:48 pm
You cons are swallowing Iranian propaganda.
Most of that crap on drudge are lies and propaganda.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
3:48 pm
Didn’t speak for you, sport. Just reported a fact.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
3:49 pm
US is engaging in propaganda
We lost a drone
We are doing what little we can to confuse the Chinese
Gale
December 15th, 2011
3:49 pm
@Misty Fyed, Could be. Still, pretty sloppy of us to not see that possibility and prepare counter-measures. It does not seem Iran would be able to out-spy us.
Mr_B
December 15th, 2011
3:50 pm
“President Obama called the war a success just last night. And this morning the praise for Mr. Obama’s completion of the war was piled very high right here on this very blog.”
And just what would expect ANY president of the US to say in a similar situation?
“We just spent multi-billions of dollars, got 50,000 or so of our guys injured or maimed, caused the deaths of maybe 500,000 Iraqis and 4000 of our sons, daughters, husbands and wives to extinguish a threat that existed only in our imaginations and to remove one two-bit dictator from power.”
Didn’t think so.
Jack
December 15th, 2011
3:50 pm
I would have preferred to vote for Giuliani in 2008. Since McCain/Palin were the nominees, I voted for them rather than vote for a man that had spent the past 20 years attending a church with a pastor that hated America and made no secret of it. (Obama’s children heard those sermons also.) None of Wright’s sermons supported America nor did he support racial harmony.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
3:51 pm
they BOTH suck,
True enough. And the policy for example of supporting dictatorships as opposed to fostering democracy through the entirety of the cold war was done through both D and R administrations with the exception of Carter who made human rights the cornerstone of his foreign policy. But even then Carter had to begrudgingly support tyrants as allies. Its amazing how many people do not realize or think about this.
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
3:53 pm
Doom – you may be right about the “dictatorships” and not “terrorists” mien.
The US jas a history of supporting right-wing dictatorships in Central and South America in support of American commercial interest in those countries (such as mining companies and United Fruit) , such as:
El Salvador (General Maximilio Hernández- 1932)
Nicaragua (The Somozas)
“The Marines invaded Nicaragua in 1912 and stayed until 1933, fighting but never defeating the revolutionary Augusto Sandino. They created the Nicaraguan National Guard and installed Anastasio Somoza Garcia in power. Then Sandino, who had signed a truce and put down his arms, was assassinated by Somoza. In 1935, General Smedley Butler, who led the Marines into Nicaragua, said: “[I was] a high class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for the banks. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism – I helped purify Nicaragua for [an] international banking house.” President Franklin Delano Roosevelt put it another way. “Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch.”
Guatemala
The succession of corrupt military dictators ruled Guatemala for over 30 years, one anti-communist tyrant after another receiving U.S. support, aid, and training”
Honduras (Roberto Suazo Cordova)
Honduras was the original “Banana Republic,” its history inextricably intertwined with that of the U.S.-based United Fruit Company, but in 1979, when Anastasio Somoza was overthrown in Nicaragua Honduras got a new nickname: “The Pentagon Republic.” In 1978 Honduras received $16.2 million in U.S. aid; by 1985 it was getting $231.1 million, primarily because President Suazo Cordova, working with U.S. Ambassador John Dmitri Negroponte and Honduran General Gustava Alvarez, allowed Honduras to become a training center for U.S. funded Nicaraguan contras. General Alvarez, who according to Newsweek, “doesn’t care if officers are thieves, as long as they are virulent anti-communists,” assisted in training programs and founded a special “hit squad,” the Cobras. Victims of the Cobras were stripped, bound, thrown into pits and tortured. The Reagan Administration claimed ignorance of these human rights violations, but U.S. advisors have admitted knowledge”
Panama (General Manuel Noriega)
“The U.S. command post for covert Latin American operations is located in the Canal Zone where a series of figurehead presidents, some backed by General Manual Noriega, have involved Panama in U.S. intelligence operations. Noriega first met with then CIA Director George Bush in 1976 while Noriega was collecting $100 thousand a year as a CIA asset.Their friendly relationship persisted even after Noriegas’ drug dealing was revealed by a 1975 DEA investigation. During the Reagan era, Noriega collaborated with Oliver North on covert actions against Nicaragua, training contras and providing a trans-shipment point for CIA supported operations that flew weapons to the contras and cocaine into the U.S.”
This of course does not include Pinochet, (Chile) or Batista (Cuba).
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
3:53 pm
I don’t recall the contras engaging in much if any of what I construe to be terrorism- blowing up pizza parlors or crowded marketplaces, purposely taking out civilian casualties as a course of warfare.
At least do a Wiki search before you post something so — ignorant.
jewcowboy
December 15th, 2011
3:53 pm
Jack,
“I would have preferred to vote for Giuliani in 2008.”
Unfortunately for you, Giuliani only had two words in his vocabulary: nine eleven.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
3:53 pm
Jm,
Are you just toying with getalife again?
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:53 pm
Jack,
Our government admitted injecting vd in humans to study it.
Wright is probably right about aides.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:54 pm
doomy,
I do the “toying” on this blog.
Mr_B
December 15th, 2011
3:54 pm
Thulsa: The contras usually concentrated on targeted assassinations and kidnapping and “disappearing” supporters of the Sandinista government (elected, BTW). They also didn’t have a lot of problems with murdering members of the clergy who expressed a concern with social justice. I’ll call this terrorism, no matter who does it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
3:55 pm
Amazing research Jack…. I am sure you did read all those sermons and have the video or other credible evidence to prove your claims. Have you got a link to your published findings?
ty webb
December 15th, 2011
3:56 pm
“Wright is probably right about aides.”
There it is Ladies and Gentlemen…The “mind” of the left…Cherish it.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
3:56 pm
Doom
Getalife thinks in tweet length thoughts
It’s the only way to communicate with him
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
3:56 pm
but I don’t think it was a policy of the contras to attack civilian targets with terrorist attacks.
It was. And the contras did all the standard terrorist stuff of the time….kidnapping, rape, torture, mutilation, etc.
We backed the Mujahideen, the fact somebody is on “our side” obviously means nothing as to their tactics.
Mr_B
December 15th, 2011
3:56 pm
out for now
Paul
December 15th, 2011
3:57 pm
godless
“Anyone else heard that the White House says Iran did not capture a drone?”
There’s been quite a bit of discussion on some of the military/intel-related sites.
This episode followed right on the heels of a Stratfor analysis on the escalation of covert ops against Iran.
I would not discount the possibility. Anything is possible – even infecting their intel systems as they download and decode the drone recce systems.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:57 pm
The real moonbat bachmann claims the newt bribed the tea party.
Money is the devil’s candy used to bribe the world.
The devil has won.
Everything is corrupt.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
3:58 pm
Has the Muslim president done his daily prayers?
Not very devout…… What a bum obummer is
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
3:59 pm
Americas Watch – which subsequently became part of Human Rights Watch – stated that “the Contras systematically engage in violent abuses… so prevalent that these may be said to be their principal means of waging war.”[53] It[54] accused the Contras of:
targeting health care clinics and health care workers for assassination[55]
kidnapping civilians[56]
torturing civilians[57]
executing civilians, including children, who were captured in combat[58]
raping women[55]
indiscriminately attacking civilians and civilian houses[56]
seizing civilian property[55]
burning civilian houses in captured towns.[55]
getalife
December 15th, 2011
3:59 pm
jm,
willard is losing again.
Get back to pimping him.
moonbat betty
December 15th, 2011
4:00 pm
funny how Time named Teapbaggers the “person” of the year.
How ’bout that obama ilkys?
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:01 pm
I hope the morally unkempt newt wins.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
4:02 pm
Ahh Kam, you’re no fun. You know the Great Zeus of Ignorance prefers to make outlandish false claims, fake quotes and other lies and if called on them he moves the goal post. If proven totally wrong, he says he was “just kidding”. Watch him dance now….. oh wait he’ll just go into his troll mode.
DebbieDoRight
December 15th, 2011
4:03 pm
Gotta go but just HAD to defend getalife’s honor…
Wright is probably right about aides.”
There it is Ladies and Gentlemen…The “mind” of the left…Cherish it.
Ever heard of the “Tuskeegee Syphilis Experiment”? If you have/had, then you’d believe that ANYTHING the US did was possible.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:04 pm
Kammy,
Not only did I do a wiki search but I lived down there in the 80s and am infinitely more familiar with the politics of the region than you could ever hope to be. I’ve also read several books on Latin America and talked indepth about the politics of the region when I lived there. I don’t think that I know a helluva lot more about the topic than you. I know I do.
The contras were alleged to have killed 2 nuns by the Sandinista govt who the contras of course were fighting and several left wing human rights organizations have alleged some isolated atrocities. That’s about it. But it was not a matter of contra policy to systematically carry out terrorist bombings or attacks on civilian targets.
You should back down quickly kammy. You’re attempting to broach on a subject that you have not a clue about against someone who has substantial knowledge of the region and its politics. Your ignorance precludes you from a conversation on this topic with the Doom. Dismissed.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:04 pm
We all know doomy post lies and has no credibility.
What else you got cons?
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
4:05 pm
Paul,
But has the White House made a statement that the drone is not ours. That is getalife’s assertion and unlike cons, he doesn’t lie. But I can’t find any report of this.
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
4:06 pm
If proven totally wrong, he says he was “just kidding”. Watch him dance now….. oh wait he’ll just go into his troll mode.
“I’m in yer HEAD!!” in 3…2….1…
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:06 pm
“Everything is corrupt”
Especially the president
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
4:07 pm
Jeez, Jay’s school yard is out of control and the blogging brats, who cannot even make cogent arguments on their OWN behalf, think they can do so for others.
To wit, I’ll bet you ten thousand Romney dollars that not one of you can produce even one post from heathen today that has any relevant, factual, useful information included. And trust me, it’s not like today is different than any other.
Alriiiighty then.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:07 pm
keep up,
Please don’t tell me you want to have an indepth discussion of Central American politics and history with me. You’re way outta your league on that one son. Better that the sand flea and the chihuahua just keep nippin at my ankles on other topics.
jewcowboy
December 15th, 2011
4:08 pm
Headline ~ “Romney wins GOP nomination”
Followed by ~ “Surge in ‘NoDoz’ sales prior to live Presidential Debate”
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
4:09 pm
He AUTHORIZED the strike on Bin Laden. He should get credit for it. If it would’ve backfired and he would’ve failed, i can bet every dime i’ve ever owned that those righteous righty people would’ve been more htan happy to give him credit for FAILING.
Then by that reasoning he gets credit for give stealth chopper technology to the Chinese and drone technology to the Iranians/Russians!
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:10 pm
ATLANTA (AP) — A presidential panel on Monday disclosed shocking new details of U.S. medical experiments done in Guatemala in the 1940s, including a decision to re-infect a dying woman in a syphilis study.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:10 pm
Godless
U r one funny dude
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
4:10 pm
You’re attempting to broach on a subject that you have not a clue about against someone who has substantial knowledge of the region and its politics.
Sweetie, I toured the region with the military. The contras used terrorist tactics.
Dismissed.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:11 pm
Looks like the Doomy fan club musta met down at the clown cafe for a few beers and now they want their daily blog beatdown followed by a group meltdown like yesterday. Right on cue they start nippin at the ankles, sand fleas, chihuahuas, cockaroches, here they come.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
4:11 pm
Thelma, sorry pal, I was in El Salvador in 1974 so I have been an “expert” longer than you have been. And I drank a lot of Mexican beer so I am an expert on Mexico. And overinflated ego does not make you an expert.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:12 pm
Bring it cons.
I will inform you of the truth.
Paul
December 15th, 2011
4:12 pm
godless
My impression from the intent of his posts is it isn’t one of our ‘real’ RQ-170s.
To me, it just does not make sense that, when presented with several options to destroy it, the Pres rejected the options on the basis of ‘it would be seen as an act of war.’ That phase of the scenario just doesn’t pass the common-sense test if it were, in fact, the real thing.
I am not advocating a position here – just laying out differing possibilities, in light of our ongoing actions regarding Iran.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
4:13 pm
But it was not a matter of contra policy to systematically carry out terrorist bombings or attacks on civilian targets.
Funny, that’s not what Human Rights Watch said.
In fact they said just the opposite: “…the Contras systematically engage in violent abuses… so prevalent that these may be said to be their principal means of waging war.”
Now the question in my mind is, do I believe Human Rights Watch, or do I believe in a deluded zeus in a speedo?
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:15 pm
Aquagirl,
While you were on your military base with other soldiers I actually lived with the local populace as a foreign exchange student, learning their culture, their language, their customs, and their history. Perhaps we can all continue the conversation in Spanish to see just how much all of you know- you, kammy, and keep up.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
4:17 pm
Okay, so if someone knows Spanish that apparently makes them an expert on terrorist and other activities in a country.
Anyone know latin? You’re now an expert on all things Catholic! Congrats!
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
4:17 pm
Right on cue they start nippin at the ankles, sand fleas, chihuahuas, cockaroches, here they come.
Poor Doom. He needs to upgrade to Holiday Inn.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:17 pm
The only people that know the truth are the drone operator, commanding officers and the WH.
The drone video is stored on their servers.
The FOIA gives us the truth but they are still finding it in the 40’s.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:19 pm
Getalife
Government is corrupt. R u just realizing this?
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:20 pm
Kammy the poo,
Is human rights watch the same group that says the U.S. is holding cop killer Mummia Abu Jamal as a “political prisoner”? Why yes! I believe they do. Just another leftist leaning group spouting nonsense. Nip a little harder ma’am.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:22 pm
Government lies. Our government needs a gastric band.
Stop paying your taxes.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:23 pm
Doom
Kammy has dull teeth. More like nubs.
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
4:23 pm
Right on cue they start nippin at the ankles, sand fleas, chihuahuas, cockaroches, here they come.
Yep, “I’m in yer HEAD” right on schedule.
If you want to stack up your moneymaking cocktail party chats (or whatever the hell you were doing there) against my time….Caucasian, please.
I’ll leave it at that.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:24 pm
jm,
I guess your reading disability is to blame.
Again, we blogged during the w disaster so we know government is corrupt.
What are you going to do about it?
You fight for the ones that corrupted our government.
That does not make sense jm.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:24 pm
Lessee now. We got the sand flea, the chihuahua, female chihuahua, cockaroacha, we still got room for more annoying little critters nippin at the ankle of the Doom. Make it quick Doomy got to get going soon.
Paul
December 15th, 2011
4:26 pm
Thulsa
You keep talking in the third person people are gonna think you’re Bob Dole or Karl Malone…
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:26 pm
Jm,
I know. Its kinda nasty when those wet, bare saliva drooling gums are nippin at the ankles of the Doom. Eeeeeewwww!!!!!
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
4:26 pm
Poor Doom. The Ease On Inn needs to spray his room more often. He’s eat up with it.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
4:27 pm
Yep, “I’m in yer HEAD” right on schedule.
Just before he declares, “I win with my missiles of truth” as he walks out the door.
thelma is nothing if not predictable.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:28 pm
doomy eats his own ankles because doomy can’t post the truth.
Peadawg
December 15th, 2011
4:28 pm
Doesn’t look/sound fake to me, getalife:
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/15/crashed-drone-was-looking-at-iran-nuclear-sites/?hpt=hp_t1
“The Sentinel drone that crashed in Iran last week was on a surveillance mission of suspected nuclear sites in the country, U.S. military officials tell CNN.”
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:28 pm
Getalife
I wil keep switching parties until we get ethical government that tackles our challenges
No hype. Just action. Talk is cheap.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:28 pm
Paul, Don’t forget Bo Jackson and Charles Barkley- 3rd person also. I just do it cause I sense that it drives my court jesters crazy- all of em. And it do.
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:30 pm
jm,
Try the justice party then.
willard is the 1 % candidate.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:30 pm
Getalife
If Republicans get everything back and don’t cut spending or reform entitlements and the tax code
I will fire them again and vote D
moonbat betty
December 15th, 2011
4:30 pm
Ha Ha Thulsa,
It’s like you have a moonbat beacon – just throw them some crumbs and they come like a flock of seagulls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn0×1Kro1FM
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
4:31 pm
thelma is nothing if not predictable
Yawn. Yawn. Applies to most in this blog.
Paul
December 15th, 2011
4:31 pm
Well Doom, since you’re gonna keep talking like that…
http://www.myspace.com/video/vid/9549636#pm_cmp=vid_OEV_P_P
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
4:31 pm
thelma is nothing if not predictable
Yes, human rights watch, the media, my tour, everyone else’s experience…all pales before the experience of an EXCHANGE STUDENT.
Speedo Zeus is a flexin’ in front of his mirrors, y’all stand back.
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
4:32 pm
I’ll bet those serial killer types talk in third person.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:32 pm
“I win with my missiles of truth”- the poo
Holy cow. I think I used that line about 6-9 months ago and forgot all about it. I’m impressed that my fan club can remember that far back and can actually remember that. Gawd that must have really been eating at him. And for a loooong time too. When they can recount things you’ve said 6 or 9 months ago you know you own em. Own em!
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:32 pm
Pea,
Yeah and now Iran claims they hacked it.
Propaganda is so thick on this one.
Lets hope this covert war does not start WWIII.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
4:34 pm
What does it mean when people refer to themselves in the third person?
I believe that first and foremost this is most likely an affectation. Possibly an attempt to get attention. Possibly they want someone to be concerned that they aren’t well. If this is the case, I would talk to them at least in passing and ask why they say that. Another one could be that they have self-acknowledgement issues. Possibly guilt/shame/embarassment. Possibly low self-esteem. They may feel like an outsider as this would be a symbolic way to represent the self in a disasociated manner. People who do this may be coping with some issues that need to be brought into light. I would look at other aspects of their behavior. If it is deliberated towards some and not others, those who they direct this impersonal self-reference towards may be people who they feel neglected by. They may be sanely trying to say, in an oblique manner, “You don’t acknowledge me, and so now neither do I.” Possible Passive-aggressive tendacies? I would say these are most likely only because I have personally done this in my youth for reasons stated herein
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_it_mean_when_people_refer_to_themselves_in_the_third_person#ixzz1gdpd6P5c
getalife
December 15th, 2011
4:34 pm
jm,
Fool me once……
They promised jobs and what happened.
Wake up.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
4:37 pm
Yawn. Yawn. Applies to most in this blog.
Still waiting for you to prove your claim, Yet your Ilk (kamchack) say he killed Bin laden.
Where and when did I claim that, sport?
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:38 pm
The fixation on Doom’s body continues. Aquagirl, give it up gal. You’re too old. I like em in their 30s. You’re just not worthy. The adoration is appreciated though. Uusally keep beats you to it. Something Freudian going on in that boy’s head the way he’s always fascinatin on the Doom’s bod.
Funny that you should bring up the speedos that you and keep love to get all hot and bothered thinking about since I’m doing my leg workout today. Gotta going going soon to do it. Have fun eating that twinky or doughnut while Doomy do his thing. It’ll give you something to salivate over while you have that sugary doughnut stuck in your mouth. Or cucumber.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
4:39 pm
They promised jobs and what happened.
Wake up.
Those darn dems in the senate. Couldn’t pass another half trillion in stimulus let alone a budget. Losers
St Simons - we're on Island time
December 15th, 2011
4:39 pm
oh, this beatdown is epic. Two poo flingers at once.
if they start doing some “maths,” i’m gonna have to send some here
home for breathing treatments.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:40 pm
Sport card. Now THAT is predictable. Look like we got a sand flea that doubles as a psyhchologist. Who knew?
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
4:40 pm
EXCHANGE STUDENT
Not just any exchange student though. We’re talking about the caped exchange student that went out among the ordinary common people and brushed up against them with English-Spanish translator in hand, ready for any encounter. If only he had properly interpreted, “Don’t drink the water.”
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
4:41 pm
Paul,
“My impression from the intent of his posts is it isn’t one of our ‘real’ RQ-170s. ”
Since getalife refuses to post any links or sources we are left to draw our own conclusions. I can only clonclude he/she is obfuscating.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:41 pm
I hates typos psychologist.
Paul
December 15th, 2011
4:46 pm
godless
Anything about such a scenario will necessarily be speculative. Our government would not comment, regardless. If it is a ploy, it’d give away the game. If it was real, nothing would be said in order to minimize revealing capabilities. So we’re left with those who like to speculate in such areas. They’ll all be unofficial sources, of course -
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:47 pm
Taxpayer,
I actually lived in Spain as a child, took Spanish throughout high school and college, and took numerous courses in Latin American affairs in college because Spanish culture had always interested me going back to my childhood in Spain. My immersion in Spanish culture in language and in custom is a little more than just one year as a foreign exchange student with an English/Spanish translator. BTW no one I knew carries those things except tourists. If you have a question about something you simply ask “como se dice” and point to the object or if its more indepth you ask one of your compatriots who also speaks English. Carrying a translation book just makes you look like a fool- which is probably what you carried I’m sure and which is why you think others are as foolish as yourself. We’re not.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
4:50 pm
hmmmm… sexual harassment from a poster on the blog. Thelma confuses laughter at his claims for sexual attention with preoccupation or desire instead of derision. He’s a Cheap Trick Making Herman Cain proud!
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
4:51 pm
So Doom has now elevated himself above his earlier claim of just being your mild mannered exchange student. Uh Huh. I see you still got the runs, Doom.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:52 pm
Doom
You just played the Spanish card
Jay may call u out
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
4:53 pm
“Possibly an attempt to get attention”- from the sand flea psychologist. I think I gets plenty of attention from my fan club. But thanks for asking. Now if we only knew what was wrong with Charles Barkley, Bo Jackson, Karl Malone, Bob Dole and others that use 3rd person. I reckons they all are just messed up or something. Aint none of them successful neither.
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
4:55 pm
Doom,
Do you wear a mask with that cape in order to hide your identity while out in public.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:55 pm
Getalife
Romney will bring integrity back to the white house
And jobs
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:56 pm
Jobs to America
Back Seater
December 15th, 2011
4:58 pm
AmVet
December 15th, 2011
4:07 pm
Jeez, Jay’s school yard is out of control and the blogging brats, who cannot even make cogent arguments on their OWN behalf, think they can do so for others.
To wit, I’ll bet you ten thousand Romney dollars that not one of you can produce even one post from heathen today that has any relevant, factual, useful information included. And trust me, it’s not like today is different than any other.
Tell you what AMVET, I’ll make the same bet with your about any of your post being relevent to anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
4:58 pm
Romney will bring integrity back to the white house
Despite being the leader in Iowa, he is still only polling in the 20s.
Mittens, the little engine that can’t.
godless heathen
December 15th, 2011
4:58 pm
Well I”m off to celebrate the successful conclusion of the successful Iraqi conflict.
I think I’ll find that video of the statue of Saddam being toppled over and the Iraqis beating it with their shoes. Good stuff.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
4:58 pm
Where and when did I claim that, sport?
That was a reference to you saying ilk, and Odonor making the kill claim chump!
Jm
December 15th, 2011
4:59 pm
Kam
I’ll hold you to that. Sport.
Acer706
December 15th, 2011
5:01 pm
I can’t believe that voters in this country allow a commercial to affect their vote.
What a bunch of idiots.
Thulsa Doom
December 15th, 2011
5:02 pm
Jm,
Yo me gusta jugar con sand flea, cockaroach, chihuahua, y otras.
One day I just may bang up my fan club members with little snippets in Spanish all day just to mess with them. Damn that would be cruel. Be like a cat toying with a mouse all day long. They say something stupid. Doomy razzes them in Spanish. What can they do? Oh lawdy, Jm you just opened up a whole new world of messin with the sand fleas, the chihuahuas, and the cockaroaches in a way that leaves them feeling impotent in futile in their inability to respond in kind. I’m not cruel though. Besides I like for them to know exactly what I am saying to them. Still may start sneaking some snippets in there here and there. Doomy gonna have some fun with his toys.
Gotta go. Doomy out. Hasta luego amigos, amigas, y idiotas.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 15th, 2011
5:04 pm
Jm: “Jobs to America”
Not according to this: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1bf8e7ba-2578-11e1-9cb0-00144feabdc0.html
Regardless of who among the current crew of half wits is selected, including the current occupant, there will be no significant change without breaking the back of financial capital’s stranglehold on the world economy.
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
5:05 pm
I guess the Ease On Inn ran out of spray before they got to his room. He will just have to remain eaten up with it.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
5:07 pm
Doom
Cookaracha?
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
5:09 pm
Gotta go. Doomy out.
Look! Up in the sky!
It’s a plane!
It’s a bird!
It’s a frog!
Jm
December 15th, 2011
5:10 pm
Trotsky
Creative destruction
Romney can help America add jobs in new industries
Paul
December 15th, 2011
5:11 pm
Acer706
Better let America’s businesses know advertising doesn’t work.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 15th, 2011
5:15 pm
Jm: “Romney can help America add jobs in new industries”
I know of a better, and more “creative” form of destruction, namely destruction of the stranglehold of financial capital. Smash it to bits.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
5:15 pm
Kam, Underdoom! Funny… but I thought this was the Thelma Workout.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
5:17 pm
Keep
Can’t top that, I concede.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
5:17 pm
Romney is the man
Newt is an amphibian
pogo
December 15th, 2011
5:19 pm
You must be very proud of what your blog has become Jay. And it is all with your blessing.
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
5:19 pm
Advertising is overrated. Why right now Newt is popping a cialis, pulling up his speedos, doing the Brazilian Butt workout while watching Kung Fu Panda 2..
Jm
December 15th, 2011
5:20 pm
Trotsky
Break up the big banks. Don’t destroy banking itself
It is the oil that makes the engine work
Tarvaris
December 15th, 2011
5:20 pm
These sour grapes nay-sayers are just jealous of Newt’s hair.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
5:21 pm
Pogo
Jay’s blog has gone so far in the toilet that he doesn’t even spend much time on it
pogo
December 15th, 2011
5:22 pm
People, Jay thrives on your hatred.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
5:23 pm
Jay’s blog has gone so far in the toilet that he doesn’t even spend much time on it
And all because he refuses to even acknowledge your existence.
Must suck being you.
Aquagirl
December 15th, 2011
5:27 pm
Jay’s blog has gone so far in the toilet
Then you sure are spending an awful lot of time in the loo.
We’ve already had a Doomy meltdown, let’s not have another.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
5:28 pm
Kam
I love the fact he has disengaged from the debate
Love it
You are confused. I don’t live to bask in the glow of jay’s light like you.
Jm
December 15th, 2011
5:30 pm
Aquagirl
I’m not here to talk to you. Or kam. Or jay.
Bye flea.
Acer706
December 15th, 2011
5:32 pm
Paul.
It does work, very well. There are a bunch of idiots in this Country. The Dumb Masses. Take Obama’s Entire Campaign for 2012… “I Want To Give You Want You Want… But THEY Won’t Let Me…”
Such a selfish vote that is solely based on “ME.” Government cannot work on such Micro levels, so when you do not receive your promise it will be because of them… Don’t be so cheap.
Kamchak
December 15th, 2011
5:32 pm
I love the fact he has disengaged from the debate
RB from Gwinnett
December 15th, 2011
5:32 pm
“I know of a better, and more “creative” form of destruction, namely destruction of the stranglehold of financial capital. Smash it to bits.”
What does that even mean? Are you saying banks should start giving out money to people whether they’re likely to pay it back or not? It makes a really good slogan, but what the heck does it mean?
Wonk or Wank?
December 15th, 2011
5:36 pm
I demand Bookman’s resignation for allowing the first comment on today’s board be the total offensive garbage that it is. (”First, Beeches”) This comment is just one of innumerable expressions of perversion so profound and disgusting that decorum prohibits listing them all here. Bookman has been on double secret probation for a long time now, and I say enough is enough, the AJC must act to remove him from this blog once and for all. No more AJC, Bookman. You’re finished here.
BOOKMAN!!!
pogo
December 15th, 2011
5:41 pm
And contrary to what some of this blogs liberals stated earlier today, make no mistake, the 2012 National Defense Authorisation Act will enable the government to intern American citizens if they are deemed as being “terrorists”. What disturbs me, this all hangs upon what our government defines a “terrorist” as being. Depending upon what politician of whichever party makes that determination that could eventually encompass a mighty wide range a people, depending upon the politics of the person interpreting the law, couldn’t it? Terrorist could eventually mean anyone that doesn’t agree with the government, couldn’t it? And Obama has already authorized the killing of American citizens on foreign soil, hasn’t he because he deemed them “terrorists”? Internment is a small price to pay compared to that, isn’t it? Our freedoms are marching out the door under Obama. Of course Jay will be silent upon this as Obama will sign the law and Jay doesn’t want to do anything to jeopardize Obama’s re-election campaign.
TaxPayer
December 15th, 2011
5:44 pm
That Republican do nothing strategy is really working. Keep up the good work, Republicans.
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
5:48 pm
Pogo
How will this bill get through a majority Republican House?
Welcome to the Occupation
December 15th, 2011
5:48 pm
RB: “What does that even mean? Are you saying banks should start giving out money to people whether they’re likely to pay it back or not? It makes a really good slogan, but what the heck does it mean?”
What does it mean? Do you not realize that all of the spectacles playing out before us right now — from the takeover of entire European countries by what amount to no more than lobbyists for the financial sector (Draghi), not to mention extortion of savage cuts on benefits and promised pensions to workers in some countries just to please foreign investors, to the inability of our political system in this country to extract even a single penny of extra revenue from the wealthiest classes to maintain the current social safety net, even as these wealthy classes have revenues at stratospheric levels, is a DIRECT result of the absolute dominance of financial capital on a world scale?
If not, I’m not sure I can help you.
It means breaking the stranglehold that financial capital has on the entire world economy that dictates
josef
December 15th, 2011
5:50 pm
pogo
Habeas corpus went MIA under Bush…don’t lose sight of that…and the Obamistas need to not lose sight that he hasn’t made any efforts to restore it either…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
5:51 pm
Jay’s disengaged? Did he assign one of his minions to watch what we are typing as we type it?
Jay
December 15th, 2011
5:51 pm
Thanks for the reminder, Wonk. I meant to pull that down hours ago, but have been caught up in writing my Sunday column.
Also, sheets.
josef
December 15th, 2011
5:52 pm
good fight
@ 5:51
josef
December 15th, 2011
5:53 pm
new sheets already?
Well, sh*t, I guess I can put off THAT post until tomorrow…eh, Imam?
Peter
December 15th, 2011
5:54 pm
YUP from JM……. talking crap.
Jay’s blog has gone so far in the toilet that he doesn’t even spend much time on it
Try prunes Jm !
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 15th, 2011
5:56 pm
Jay is silent on the Defense bill sent and approved by members of both parties? Why I bet a quick check of the archives would surely confirm the veracity of pogos claims….. oh wait… pogo fail.
josef, I agree. It is disappoint that the President has deemed it more critical to maximize the potential Executive Power in these situations than to reaffirm the Constitutional obligation.
Welcome to the Occupation
December 15th, 2011
5:56 pm
Jm: “Break up the big banks. Don’t destroy banking itself”
Well, obviously.
The trouble is that financial capital is having nothing of it.
Obama’s Timmy Geithner, who’s no more than a lobbyist for high finance right in the halls of the government under the present administration, has been there to strangle any hint of an impulse in that direction. And if you think that a Romney or a Gingrich will have anything different in a Treasury Secretary, then you’re seriously deluded. Geithner’s being there is no accident. When the tentacles of finance are everywhere, this is what you get.
Paul
December 15th, 2011
6:10 pm
Acer
Cheap? You just acknowledged it worked.
As far as the masses being dumb – Ron Paul had a different perspective, remember? His point was Newt’s putting out an image. Ron Paul’s commercials are about what Newt has actually done, not just what he now says.
I don’t think that’s cheap, nor does it appeal to dumb people. People who want opposing viewpoints to make a decision are not dumb.
They BOTH suck
December 15th, 2011
6:21 pm
Scout is now down to right wing talking point #5………
Keeping them coming Scout
“same as it ever was………. same as it ever was”
Ross Perot
December 15th, 2011
6:33 pm
Jay:
Also, sheets.
Bags!
Paulo977
December 15th, 2011
7:47 pm
Debbie D R @3:53pm
Well done …with facts!!!!!
independent thinker
December 15th, 2011
7:49 pm
Newt the gas bag keeps rising due to uncontrollable mental flatulence
ld
December 15th, 2011
8:07 pm
“Restore Our Future” is a bit of an oxymoron.
Newt and Mitt attacking each other on ‘universal healthcare’ is the, pot calling the kittle black’ and
true rank and file conservatives must be cringing at the thought of either of them in office and wondering who might rescue them…
Ron Paul, wherefore art thou?