The panic of the GOP’s Washington establishment has become, well, entertaining. The conservative movement that they have designed and programmed so carefully is in the process of going rogue on them, and that rogue has a name: Newt Gingrich.
But they have brought this on themselves. He is their creation.
If you indoctrinate your members to believe that compromise equates to defeat — if that becomes a core principle in your movement’s identity — how can you demand they compromise by accepting Mitt Romney as their nominee? Is that not defeat on the most important decision the party can make?
If you tell them that being Republican requires obedience to every single tenet of Republican doctrine — George Will this week noted that the party is “more ideologically homogenous than ever in 156 years of competing for the presidency” — how can you sell them on a candidate who is so transparently insincere in embracing that doctrine? Isn’t that a betrayal? (Gingrich is equally insincere; he’s just better at hiding it.)
And if you have nurtured your base on the red meat of anger and resentment, building an elaborate media infrastructure to generate fresh outrage to feed upon, you have prepared the way for a demagogic leader with a genius for that style of politics. With his intellectual veneer and flair for the outrageous, Gingrich doesn’t merely throw the crowd red meat, he throws them Kobe beef, broiled to perfection.
Meanwhile, Romney offers soy burgers. Go ahead, eat it. It’s good for you.
And this is the tough part: For years, you have imbued your voter base with a deep distrust of the media, the establishment and the elites, to the point that distrust is now programmed into the movement’s DNA. The harsher the media attack, the more enthusiastically the party faithful now rallies behind its target.
That trait has proved useful, producing a party base that to a large degree is immune to outside influence. But in these circumstances, what mechanisms do you use to convince the base that Gingrich would be a disaster to the party and to the country? How do you reach them? You can’t use the mainstream media, and moderate voices preaching caution from Washington simply have no impact. In fact, they confirm the false image of Gingrich as a fellow outsider.
Newt understands that dynamic very well, having helped to create it. He has made an ostentatious point of refusing to attack his fellow Republicans, saying he will not participate in a media conspiracy to divide the party. It is a wise response, perfectly attuned to the mindset of the base, and you can expect to see him offer it repeatedly in tonight’s GOP debate from Iowa.
In fact, tonight’s debate (broadcast at 9 p.m. on ABC) is likely to be the most important of the party’s two dozen or so forums, because it comes at a critical time. Unless Gingrich self-destructs, and soon, the party establishment and intelligentsia will have to spend the next few months trying to discredit him while shoving Romney down the throat of a GOP base that gags at the thought. And maybe it’s what’s left of my naivete, but I have to think that patriotism is also playing a role in that desperation. The party elite know Gingrich; they understand that proposing to put Newt in position to be president of the United States would, in its own way, be as grossly irresponsible as putting someone like Sarah Palin in that role.
They just don’t know how to convince the rest of the party of that fact, because it requires unlearning so much of what they’ve been told to believe.
– Jay Bookman
781 comments Add your comment
josef
December 11th, 2011
8:41 pm
Newt, Inc.
Meanwhile over here at the Rothschild Pace,,,
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 11th, 2011
8:53 pm
josef, as for your earlier comment, I have no explanation for the ability to see only what they want to see. But it appears to be selective vision based on their desired argumentive outcome.
Hubert
December 11th, 2011
9:00 pm
I am an independent if not being a money supporting benefactor of any political party is illustrative of being independent. My independent friends choice is Newt Gingrich above everyone else. It is evident that the Democrats and the pretend GOP in Washington are in a panic.
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 11th, 2011
9:01 pm
I refer to Newt as a carperbagger because of his move from west Ga to Cobb County to run for Congress.
When they abolished his old district he looked to see which one he might be electable in.
He had to pick the one that was formerly held by Larry ‘John Birch’ McDonald.
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:02 pm
Hubert, have you asked them why?
josef
December 11th, 2011
9:09 pm
Common sense..
That is what aCarpetbagger does…
getalife
December 11th, 2011
9:11 pm
Independents for the newt?
Do they want another collapse?
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:12 pm
Common, Larry Mcdonald–Newt Gingrich, now there’s a contrast..
Thulsa Doom
December 11th, 2011
9:12 pm
Common Sense,
The same could be said of Obama being a carpetbagger in coming to Chicago and running for office. Difference being of course that in getting elected he challenged the validity petitions of his dem. competition and got them booted out.In other words disenfranchisement.
I believe also that John Kerry moved into an open district and I think W did the same also. This happens a lot between both parties where somebody ambitious will move into an open district to make a run at that congressional office.
josef
December 11th, 2011
9:13 pm
Frog
How so?
josef
December 11th, 2011
9:15 pm
Thulsa
And they are Carpetbaggers….
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:15 pm
Thulsa Doom, but Hilary’s move was just because Bill wanted to
live in New York City
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:18 pm
josef, for one thing Mcdonald was a medical expert. Newt is an expert
at nothing.
Larry30
December 11th, 2011
9:21 pm
Always fun to read an opinion piece written by a liberal about who he perceives to be conservative. Mr. Bookman, the Washington GOP establishment you talk about is no more conservative than my dog. They are democrat lites. They believe in big government for their own vote buying schemes and real conservatives are sick and tired of it. They have given us big government moderates like bob dole, both George bushes, and the “maverick.” There would be no change in course for the country with people like that. We would head down the same destructive path at a slower pace than under the leadership of an Obama. If they hand me another moderate to vote for then I will cast my vote for Obama. If this country is going to be led down the crapper then let’s get on with it and hit bottom so we can start the process of turning the country around. I know folks like you credit bill clinton with the balanced budgets of the 90’s but all spending originates in the house and the government shutdown in ‘95 occurred because Gingrich and the GOP house members would not agree to let Clinton spend more money. Clinton shut down the govt’ (no big deal to me, by the way). Gingrich led the house to end the destructive welfare program that destroyed poor families and robbed people of their dignity. Your assertions that the dc party elites have “built” some kind of media infrastructure that affirms their ideology is laughable. To the contrary, a fresh form of conservative media has thrived commercially because there are millions of people who are ready to rid themselves of career parasites and enjoy being informed as to the truth of what is going on in this country.
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:25 pm
Larry 30, if the millions of which you speak will vote in the next election
the career parasites can be removed from office.
Natrone
December 11th, 2011
9:26 pm
Obama will beat gingrich or romney easy!!! 4 more years!!!!!!!
josef
December 11th, 2011
9:28 pm
Frog
I don’t know much about McDonald….except how he exited
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:29 pm
Natrone, gingrich easy, romney not so much…
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:32 pm
josef, I knew him personally and ran part of his campaign
in northwest georgia. Common sense is correct he was nominally
the head of the John Birch Society and would have been President
if he hadn’t been killed.
dcb
December 11th, 2011
9:34 pm
Bookman – I think you protesteth too much about Gingrich. Sounds like a scared cat trying to plant some seeds. And for Natrone and barking frog above, I hope you look forward as much as I do to a Gingrich-Obama debate. It’ll be interesting to see what the Pres can do w/o his cue cards. Personally, I think he’ll be chewed up and spit out by Gingrich.
Jm
December 11th, 2011
9:37 pm
Newt was born in Hope Arkansas
Wait a sec
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:38 pm
dcb, Obama-Gingrich debate not likely to happen. The Republican
party is in the process of chewing up and spitting out the Newt and
he will leave a bitter taste.
Matti's Compassion
December 11th, 2011
9:39 pm
McDonald… wasn’t he the reason we were boycotting Stoli in the nightclub where I worked back in the 80’s?
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:40 pm
Jm, did you get that from a pennsylvanian ?
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:41 pm
Matti, could be, he was a plane shot down by the Russians.
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:42 pm
Matti , make that ‘on a plane’…
Jm
December 11th, 2011
9:46 pm
Frog
Callista’s twin sister Jennifer Flowers told me
Thulsa Doom
December 11th, 2011
9:49 pm
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:18 pm
josef, for one thing Mcdonald was a medical expert. Newt is an expert
at nothing.
Barking frog,
You’re dead wrong. We’ve already confirmed that Newt is an expert at looking like a cross between a cabbage patch doll and chucky.
Thulsa Doom
December 11th, 2011
9:50 pm
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
9:15 pm
Thulsa Doom, but Hilary’s move was just because Bill wanted to
live in New York City
Hee Hee. Carpetbaggers all over the political spectrum.
Matti's Compassion
December 11th, 2011
9:54 pm
frog,
That’s right! I remember now. (So long ago, when I was just a baby.) Hey, if I were having a heart attack, it would hurt really bad, not just hurt, right?
Rubes never get it
December 11th, 2011
9:55 pm
Newt is his biggest fan, enough said. He is a pseudo-intellectual with self grandiose behavior.
As a fellow GOP congressman said, “If Newt is the smartest man in the room, you need to leave that room”. I would add very quickly.
We can only hope that a new mistress will surface to save us from his self absorbed candidacy. With the icy appearance of the third Mrs Gingrich, I am feeling lucky in that aspect.
OedipusTax
December 11th, 2011
9:57 pm
And calling Gingrich “Frankenstein” passes for journalism at the AJC? Not surprised. Anything to see papers.
And I challenge Jay Bookman to find any article ever in which he described a Democratic Candidate with a similar adjective.
But common sense and fair play from Jay Bookman?
That would be like expecting our President to talk about excessive government spending.
OedipusTax
December 11th, 2011
9:57 pm
“see papers” should be “sell papers”
getalife
December 11th, 2011
9:58 pm
The newt was hatched in Pa. and fancies himself as a historian that gives “strategic advice”.
In the real world, he is as lobbyist for the 1 %.
barking frog
December 11th, 2011
10:00 pm
Matti, 9:54′ people have different heart attack symptoms
Chest pains of unknown origins should be checked by a doctor.
Jm
December 11th, 2011
10:00 pm
“hatched”?
You mean spawned I think
JAWJA
December 11th, 2011
10:03 pm
The only contest Noot is sure to win is ugliest wife. All that Tiffany gone to waste!
Jm
December 11th, 2011
10:07 pm
Jawja
Ugliest wife? That was creative
getalife
December 11th, 2011
10:09 pm
Matti,
I have seen a man fall down and throw up from the chest pain.
He did not make it.
Yeah, it is pretty bad.
Doggone/GA
December 11th, 2011
10:10 pm
“And calling Gingrich “Frankenstein” passes for journalism at the AJC?”
No. You need to learn the difference between opinion writing and journalism writing.
getalife
December 11th, 2011
10:11 pm
What are your symptoms Matti?
getalife
December 11th, 2011
10:14 pm
Looks like you coach has some health issues.
Matti's Compassion
December 11th, 2011
10:19 pm
Doggone/GA,
Metaphors are totally lost on some people, particularly those lacking in the basic literary knowledge of our culture. Bless their hearts.
getalife,
Thanks. Not having that issue yet.
getalife
December 11th, 2011
10:20 pm
Matti,
Do you have constant chest pain?
ron paul
December 11th, 2011
10:22 pm
the only guy with the guts to call for the changes we need. all of the others are choosing to stay on the same path of destruction we’ve been on since 1980.
Doggone/GA
December 11th, 2011
10:22 pm
“Metaphors are totally lost on some people, particularly those lacking in the basic literary knowledge of our culture. Bless their hearts”
Amen to that! Coupled with not being able to see what is the REAL subject of the piece. For those still wondering: it’s NOT about Newt Gingrich
Matti's Compassion
December 11th, 2011
10:28 pm
getalife,
Pretty much. Please don’t worry.
Thulsa Doom
December 11th, 2011
10:30 pm
Obama do loves himself some perty speeches and his teleprompter. His absolutely abysmal economic record? Not so much. The exploding debt under his watch? I would say that he don’t like that so much either except for the fact that the moron simply doesn’t seem to give a damn how much debt he heaps upon our children and grandchildren. What a disgusting man. Makes you wonder how the man can saddle future generations with such debt and have no shame in doing so. That’s what ya get though when you elect a community organizer with exactly ZERO executive experience and put him in charge of the largest budget in the world.
getalife
December 11th, 2011
10:30 pm
Matti,
I had congestive heart failure, aortic valve replacement surgery and clogged arteries so I have some experience on heart problems.
Batman
December 11th, 2011
10:44 pm
Jm, Thulsa
I have to know. What’s the draw that brings you here? Everyone else has left. Bookman either banned them or they just got tired of walking on egg shells while being attacked by the half wits that live on this blog.
You can’t expect fairness. You certainly can’t expect intelligent debate. If these people were smart enough to understand your posts, they would have been challenging what you say instead of these incessant adolescent personal attacks.
Look at tonight. You are gained up on, called names, exposed to the dumbest people on the blog trying to claim that you don’t understand metaphors. Its pathetic. You are like the kids that are so desperate for friends that they will do anything just as long as they can stay and play with people who don’t even like them.
There’s much better blogs guys. Hell, there’s even blogs where the moderator doesn’t allow little liberal twits to attack at will.
Go where you are wanted and you are definitely not wanted here.
Bubba
December 11th, 2011
10:47 pm
Those of us who have watched the Rise of the Newt over the past 35 years know in our hearts that Newt is in fact nuts. See http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/the_big_idea/2011/12/is_newt_gingrich_nuts_consider_the_symptoms_.html .
Matti's Compassion
December 11th, 2011
10:49 pm
getalife,
Wow! Glad you battled through that! Modern medical technology is amazing. I have several (male) friends who survived such issues thanks to modern medicine. That being said, I *bleeping* HATE doctors, and don’t want them to touch me. I’m actually quite fit and healthy by nearly every measurable standard and most lifestyle choices. Excellent diet, regular exercise. But it’s also not uncommon for fit healthy people to drop dead while their less-fit, vice-indulgent, sugar-holic friends stand by and go, “Dang! No one saw that coming!” Que sera sera, I guess.
230gr Full Metal Jacket
December 11th, 2011
11:00 pm
“You can’t trust politicians who vote themselves raises on a yearly basis, allow themselves to insider trading, vote themselves out of social security and gave themselves retirement after 8 years of “service”, spend like crazy giving friends free federal dollars. That is the mantra of both the Republican and Democrat party. I get it that the republicans are hypocrites. What I don’t get is that the Democrats are just as guilty and they get a free pass by their supporters.”
Martin, thank you sir. That is the ONLY intelligent thought I have read on this entire blog — INCLUDING the socio-leftist drivel in the original piece.
No offense Jay, but this is without a doubt one of the worst pieces you have ever written, imho (and I generally DO like your work). Could you place yourself any deeper in the kool-aid bowl??? BOTH parties absolutely suck. Period. Unfortunately, this election — like the previous one — will come down to 2 thoroughly unqualified choices to choose from, so we are stuck with choosing the lesser of two evils. As much as I detest Newt Gingrich I would have to vote for him over 4 more years of the current administration (which has been an abject failure on ALL accounts. NOTHING positive has come out the Village Idiot being elected — all it has done is financially sink us even further and cause an even more drastic polarization of the voters than has EVER existed in this country, which is truly scary). I hate to say it, but I think ANYONE the GOP runs will defeat Obama — for precisely the same reason that he got elected in the first place. Obama would have never even been a contender if it wasn’t for Bush’s lack of honesty and basic common sense. Now, we have the exact same situation AGAIN except the roles are reversed. The majority of the country will vote for anyone but Obama, just as last time people would have voted for anyone but Bush. The two parties have put the entire political landscape into an ever-increasing spin-cycle, where no one really wins anymore except the politicians, who continue to increase their power and wealth while the average American’s standard of living steadily declines.
If THAT isn’t the recipe for a revolution, then I don’t know what is. And THAT thought truly scares the hell out of me, because I fear we are closer to that point than most of the population, regardless of party affiliation if any, realizes. May God help us if that ever happens again.
getalife
December 11th, 2011
11:03 pm
Matti,
That is just half of my health issues. Your body will tell you when there is a problem and if you have constant chest pain that never goes away, your body is telling you there is a problem.
Matti's Compassion
December 11th, 2011
11:24 pm
Full Metal Jacket,
I agree with you about the Democrats being complicit on a wide scale, with many of them participating in the corruption without compunction. I also agree with you on the revolutionary winds blowing across us now. Americans are proud individualists, even when we’re dependent on others. The masses will not continue to get scrooo’d and scrooo’d and simply sit back and accept it. No other nation of people stands up and calls “B.S.!” the way we do.
That being said, Newt is not just complicit, he aggressively promotes a system which rewards corruption and perpetuates the decline of our collective quality of life. I could never vote for such a reptile.
Business Man
December 11th, 2011
11:55 pm
We have had Washington outsiders in the White House for the past twenty years and our country is in the crapper. Newt is an insider and he should embrace it, I want someone who can get things done inside the beltway.
rooster
December 12th, 2011
12:45 am
Hey, knock of the personal attacks on columnists. It’s fine to disagree. I disagree with Jay Bookman more often than not on national politics. But to call a person ‘pointless’ is pretty arrogant. If Bookman were ‘pointless,’ there wouldn’t be dozens of comments on this blog.
One of the best pieces on a major local issue I’ve seen was an interview Bookman did with a hydrologist at Auburn University about the relationship of Atlanta to the Chattahoochee. Turns out the metro area probably has a net positive effect on the river dowstream. (Jay, you should re-post this piece.) It was particularly interesting that the expert was from Auburn, which of course is in the lower Chattahoochee Valley. The whole thing was just as non-partisan as the day is long – a smart and effective advocacy of the interest of the entire metropolitan community. Not the work of a ‘pointless’ person.
USinUK
December 12th, 2011
4:30 am
“I want someone who can get things done inside the beltway.”
ah, but things ARE getting done inside the beltway … they’re just not to your benefit (and if you continue to vote GOP, they’ll continue that way)
Granny Godzilla
December 12th, 2011
7:16 am
That would be “Fraankensteens” monster with the brain from “A.B. Normal” right?
Roll, roll, roll in the hay…..
Bill Orvis White
December 12th, 2011
7:23 am
Speaker Gingrich balanced the budget and kept Bubba Clinton in line. If not for Speaker Gingrich, we would be in even worse shape. However, we would have been in better shape, if the liberal media didn’t chase Speaker Gingrich out of Washington. If he would have rightfully stayed in his position as the best leader of the rightful GOP Congress, we might not have had to experience both the Clinton and Hussein Obama recessions.
Amen,
Bill
Granny Godzilla
December 12th, 2011
7:33 am
Bill Orvis White
Newt – Largest ethics fine in hisotry of the House, run our of town by the his fellow Republicans, anybody who ever worked with him is calling
in unstable….
From Politifact:
To summarize, Gingrich was off on both claims concerning the budget. The budget was indeed balanced for four years, but it’s a stretch for him to take credit for more than two of those years.
As for paying off $405 billion in debt, the data we found shows the debt actually increased during Gingrich’s four-year tenure as speaker by more than $800 billion.
So he lies too.
But you have your fake Jesus….what do you need truth for.
Mick
December 12th, 2011
7:41 am
bill
Gingrich is a pure hypocrite, going after clinton while carrying on an adulteress affair himself. There is nothing righteous about the newter or the republican party. Mitch mcconnell is the new/old jerk on the block. Hopefully, the republicans will be refuted en masse at the ballot box next year…
stands for decibels
December 12th, 2011
7:55 am
mornin’.
Hopefully, the republicans will be refuted en masse at the ballot box next year…
Doesn’t it stab you in the heart, as it does ours throughout the heartland? Peaceful Christians, pls refudiate.
Normal
December 12th, 2011
7:57 am
Bill Orvis White…
Newt = plastic Jesus…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F-5kpyD4cE
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 12th, 2011
8:04 am
Gingrich has a history of getting things done inside HIS beltway
Jm
December 12th, 2011
8:05 am
Bill Orvis
I’m glad newt pushed for a balanced budget
But I think it would have happened anyway under people like Clinton hire and fiscally conservative democrat erskine Bowles
Jm
December 12th, 2011
8:07 am
Batman
I don’t go somewhere to talk to myself
That said, there probably are blogs with a more thoughtful dialogue out there
Paul
December 12th, 2011
8:12 am
“Speaker Gingrich balanced the budget and kept Bubba Clinton in line.. if the liberal media didn’t chase Speaker Gingrich out of Washington”
and here I always thought “It’s five o’clock somewhere meant five o’clock PM !
Adam
December 12th, 2011
8:12 am
Such nutty folks. Be careful what you wish for. If you want Newt as your nominee, well, let’s just say that I, as an Obama voter, wish for nothing more than for Newt to get the nomination. Obama will wipe the floor with him.
No teleprompters exist at the debates. And if Newt is saying he would allow one, what he’s really saying is he would allow himself to read from a scripted debate rather than have an actual debate, which is something only a WEAK candidate would do.
Newt has an egomaniacal tick and he won’t be able to help himself from self destructing in front of millions of people. There will be no stopping him from alienating everyone but the party faithful, of which I am sure a lot of you are.
Now go back to RedState and request some money for your trolling. I am not sure you’ll get it though since you have failed their training courses and outed yourselves as far right.
zeke
December 12th, 2011
8:14 am
batman, please return to the batcave
AmVet - If you're a Republican, please punch yourself in the face.
December 12th, 2011
8:21 am
Nice BI tune, Normal; I’d never heard that one before. His sound has matured…
Newt’s ascendency to the top of the pile is living proof that this slate of condidates is truly horrible.
That he has done so twice is living proof that the “base” is desperately insane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjrgZPhuL9o
Paul
December 12th, 2011
8:25 am
Regarding the last Republican debate: I’ve read many more hard-hitting challenges on this blog than anything I heard lobbed at Newt. That’s the best they can do? I thought, given so many examples of lack of ethics, character, stability, leadership, humility and effectiveness taht could be leveled against Leroy, that they would construct their charges so any response would be weak. But they left large enough holes to slither right through.
Paul
December 12th, 2011
8:27 am
AmVet
“Newt’s ascendency to the top of the pile is living proof that this slate of voters is truly horrible.”
That, too -
Adam
December 12th, 2011
8:36 am
Where’s the sheets!
Common Sense isn't very Common
December 12th, 2011
8:41 am
Don’t say sheets and Gingrich in the same sentence
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 12th, 2011
8:42 am
Batman: What’s the draw that brings you here? Everyone else has left. Bookman either banned them or they just got tired of walking on egg shells while being attacked by the half wits that live on this blog. … There’s much better blogs guys. Hell, there’s even blogs where the moderator doesn’t allow little liberal twits to attack at will.
What’s even funnier is the extent of effort by some banned posters to find different ways to post and to return over and over again.
Someone just seems unable to quit us (after being banned)!
Jay
December 12th, 2011
8:45 am
Newt-free sheets
Misty Fyed
December 12th, 2011
8:51 am
If Newt were to start lying in a debate, Obama would have no idea. Even if he did, he would have no ability to effectively address it. He just has to hope Newt doesn’t start uncovering his lies. That is the root of the animosity for Newt on this Blog. The fact that he has enough uncouth to fight back and the intelligence not to be snookered.
Ross Perot
December 12th, 2011
12:20 pm
At least Newt can make decisions! See morning after pill…
Pat
December 13th, 2011
9:33 am
I understand what you’re saying here Jay. But enlighten me … just who, pray tell, is this last remnant of the establishment GOP who wants Romney? Are you saying – well, heck yes, you’re saying – there are still a few who live in a science-based reality that understands climate change? Or basic economics? Or who understand, oblivious to the bleatings of the talk radio circuit, that individual mandates are a necessary part of fixing healthcare (i.e., “Romneycare?”)
What is this vestige of moral conscience, or “patriotism” you speak of? You seem to believe that somewhere behind the scenes, exists a platoon of “Gerald Fords” – basically decent, albeit unimaginative guys, loyal and proactive in the service of the upper class to which they belong, but with some left-over sense of noblesse oblige and responsibility towards the lower and middle classes, the principles of science and logic, and the duty to fund government responsibly through both tax increases and spending cuts as needed. My question: You claim these folks exist. Well, who are they? I don’t see them anywhere in evidence.
My feeling is the “Romney Remnant” is a group of people with IQs too high to allow them to accept joke candidates like Cain, Palin, Bachmann, shrug off Paul and Huntsman as sideshows, but who just don’t like Mr. Nasty Newt, his temper, ego and baggage. And who can blame them? Romney can sound “presidential”, he tends not to explode or have tantrums, and he has Reaganesque hair. I find it difficult to believe their support of him goes deeper than that.
Just my take.
SMCOOK
December 13th, 2011
7:57 pm
Please call me Lizant #1. Newt will not do. His attittude toward the Palestineans is to the right of Ariel Sharon