Newt Gingrich is GOP’s Frankenstein monster come to life
The panic of the GOP’s Washington establishment has become, well, entertaining. The conservative movement that they have designed and programmed so carefully is in the process of going rogue on them, and that rogue has a name: Newt Gingrich.
But they have brought this on themselves. He is their creation.
If you indoctrinate your members to believe that compromise equates to defeat — if that becomes a core principle in your movement’s identity — how can you demand they compromise by accepting Mitt Romney as their nominee? Is that not defeat on the most important decision the party can make?
If you tell them that being Republican requires obedience to every single tenet of Republican doctrine — George Will this week noted that the party is “more ideologically homogenous than ever in 156 years of competing for the presidency” — how can you sell them on a candidate who is so transparently insincere in embracing that doctrine? Isn’t that a betrayal? (Gingrich is equally insincere; he’s just better at hiding it.)
And if you have nurtured your base on the red meat of anger and resentment, building an elaborate media infrastructure to generate fresh outrage to feed upon, you have prepared the way for a demagogic leader with a genius for that style of politics. With his intellectual veneer and flair for the outrageous, Gingrich doesn’t merely throw the crowd red meat, he throws them Kobe beef, broiled to perfection.
Meanwhile, Romney offers soy burgers. Go ahead, eat it. It’s good for you.
And this is the tough part: For years, you have imbued your voter base with a deep distrust of the media, the establishment and the elites, to the point that distrust is now programmed into the movement’s DNA. The harsher the media attack, the more enthusiastically the party faithful now rallies behind its target.
That trait has proved useful, producing a party base that to a large degree is immune to outside influence. But in these circumstances, what mechanisms do you use to convince the base that Gingrich would be a disaster to the party and to the country? How do you reach them? You can’t use the mainstream media, and moderate voices preaching caution from Washington simply have no impact. In fact, they confirm the false image of Gingrich as a fellow outsider.
Newt understands that dynamic very well, having helped to create it. He has made an ostentatious point of refusing to attack his fellow Republicans, saying he will not participate in a media conspiracy to divide the party. It is a wise response, perfectly attuned to the mindset of the base, and you can expect to see him offer it repeatedly in tonight’s GOP debate from Iowa.
In fact, tonight’s debate (broadcast at 9 p.m. on ABC) is likely to be the most important of the party’s two dozen or so forums, because it comes at a critical time. Unless Gingrich self-destructs, and soon, the party establishment and intelligentsia will have to spend the next few months trying to discredit him while shoving Romney down the throat of a GOP base that gags at the thought. And maybe it’s what’s left of my naivete, but I have to think that patriotism is also playing a role in that desperation. The party elite know Gingrich; they understand that proposing to put Newt in position to be president of the United States would, in its own way, be as grossly irresponsible as putting someone like Sarah Palin in that role.
They just don’t know how to convince the rest of the party of that fact, because it requires unlearning so much of what they’ve been told to believe.
– Jay Bookman
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getalife
December 10th, 2011
6:15 pm
’Im sick of this crap from you liberals, Kammie. Time for good men to stop doing nothing.”
Melt down.
RB from Gwinnett
December 10th, 2011
6:16 pm
And Jay, if you want to pretend one is bad because Obama is black, but the other is ok because Gingrich isn’t, thats pure BS. I’d add “and you know it”, but I really don’t think you’re capable of looking at anything objectively.
josef
December 10th, 2011
6:16 pm
RB
“Time for good men to stop doing nothing.”
Since you’re a better man than I am and I was raised to be a Southern gentleman of culture and breeding, after you, Sir…
USMC
December 10th, 2011
6:20 pm
“Soros just chaps yore ass big time, don’t he? How dare the left play the same game and do as good a job of it as the right? The chutzpah of them Nazi Jews boys on the Rothschild place…and, yes, I know you don’t make that charge…”
Hey Josef,
I really don’t care one way or the other if Soros makes money. I was just pointing out JAY’S hypocrisy/ silence on the Corzine MF scandal.
As far as Jews go, I love jews! Jesus was a Jew!
(and I love Matzoh Ball Soup!)
josef
December 10th, 2011
6:21 pm
RB
Gingrich is a Carpetbag Republican…ship his tacky pompous ass back to Pennsylvania…at least Obama’s white side wasn’t Scalawag…
USMC
December 10th, 2011
6:22 pm
“…Which is small potoatoes…”–The Mick
Alright Dan Quail, go easy on the scotch there!
Kamchak
December 10th, 2011
6:25 pm
I was just pointing out JAY’S hypocrisy/ silence on the Corzine MF scandal.
If Jay had actually BEEN silent on the “Corzine MF scandal”, you would have a point.
But since he wasn’t silent ( http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/11/21/jon-corzine-and-the-missing-1-2-billion/ ), you really don’t have a leg to stand on.
josef
December 10th, 2011
6:26 pm
USMC
Me and cuddin JC says you can have them matzoh balls…bleeech! Just got through frying up about 100 crepes for our “Holiday Breakfast…” A nice Sephardic tradition of something sweet and fried in oil for Hannukah..
I wouldn’t call Jay a hypocrite, myself, but you don’t bite the hand that feeds you and put your name on it (right, Imam, been gnawing on it all day, but my name ain’t on it!) He do have his blind spots, though…
Imam
I’m agitating for a new thread! D*mn, what more can I do…
Midori
December 10th, 2011
6:27 pm
Jay -
the movie of all movies is on the Turner Classic Movie channel
saywhat?
December 10th, 2011
6:28 pm
Get your panties out of twist RB. Are you really that frickin’ clueless?
Go ahead and compare President Obama to Frankenstein, if you are even capable of assembling the appropriate components for the metaphor. I can almost guarantee you that while many may object to your reasoning, nobody will object to the metaphor you used.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 10th, 2011
6:28 pm
Time for good men to stop doing nothing.
Not to worry. Good Progressives and liberals are working with the 99 to stop you cons! But thanks for thinking of us.
josef
December 10th, 2011
6:30 pm
midori
Which one?
St Simons - we're on Dawg time
December 10th, 2011
6:34 pm
smartest being of all time Newt Gingrich declared in an interview that “the
Palestinian people are invented” in his grand historical estimation, sort of
like how all peoples with their silly national identities are at one point or
another in history also “invented” out of thin air.
“Americans,” for example comes to mind.
josef
December 10th, 2011
6:37 pm
St Simons
Sorta the Southerners of the Middle East, wouldn’t you say?
bman
December 10th, 2011
6:39 pm
Newt vs Obama .. .. I would much rather have a Hillary vs Romney and take either one of them,
josef
December 10th, 2011
6:41 pm
bman
Don’t know if I would “take” them or not, but I could live with either one and still sleep at night…
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TLC!
December 10th, 2011
6:43 pm
@stands for decibels December 10th, 2011 3:22 pm – I’m just wondering what it is about TLC network that’s so great for white guys. I used to think Trading Spaces was all right, but I haven’t seen it for awhile now. Please to explain.
@Jm December 10th, 2011 3:38 pm
*************************************************************************
Now I know why WHITE MEN ARE SO ANGRY!
They are not getting any TENDER LOVING CARE at home. So they take out their FRUSTRATION on everyone that does not agree with them.
Don’t blame the messenger!
Midori
December 10th, 2011
6:43 pm
Josef — Kelly’s Heroes
josef
December 10th, 2011
6:45 pm
midori
Love that movie…!
TaxPayer
December 10th, 2011
6:45 pm
So, where do you connect the battery to get old Newt revived or does he strictly get his charge from the heavens. It’s ALIVE!
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
6:45 pm
@stands for decibels December 10th, 2011 3:22 pm – I’m just wondering what it is about TLC network that’s so great for white guys. I used to think Trading Spaces was all right, but I haven’t seen it for awhile now. Please to explain.
@Jm December 10th, 2011 3:38 pm
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Now I know why WHITE MEN ARE SO ANGRY!
Mick
December 10th, 2011
6:46 pm
usmc
That’s desperate, quayle is your jfk or maybe not….no alcohol for me, I’m getting ready to head out…one for the road-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5WYqxCNGw
Kamchak
December 10th, 2011
6:47 pm
Now I know why WHITE MEN ARE SO ANGRY!
‘Cause they can’t jump?
Midori
December 10th, 2011
6:48 pm
Hey Tax: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/12/11/sunday-review/STRIPclr/STRIPclr-custom1.jpg
Midori
December 10th, 2011
6:48 pm
Hi Kammy
Jm
December 10th, 2011
6:49 pm
Kam 6:14
How very Buddhist of you
josef
December 10th, 2011
6:49 pm
GOP is the Party
I’m a happy and gay white man myself…don’t watch much on TLC, though…you strike me as an individual with issues…Unmentionable wants to know what you got against white men? You one of them black white men? “Not as ugly, but every bit as crazy…”
Kamchak
December 10th, 2011
6:51 pm
Hiya, Midori!
St Simons - we're on Dawg time
December 10th, 2011
6:52 pm
josef – I hadn’t thought of that, good.
..or native americans, like you & me
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
December 10th, 2011
6:58 pm
Well, everybody up here at Billy Bob’s is for Newt except one nut that’s for Ron Paul. Then there’s Billy Ray Brown, who says Newt is a bad example for people. Billy Ray’s kind of sour because his wife found out about his other wife. I guess he’s blaming Newt for his legal troubles.
Anyhow, most of us figure old Newt’s got alot of experience at lying and twisting the facts, and that makes him ready for the White House. That’s more than you can say about this Obama.
Have a good Saturday night everybody and don’t forget to go to bed early enough to sleep off the hangover before you go to church.
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:00 pm
St Simons
I’m a native American, but ain’t no Indian blood in there that I know of..some of my collaterals did go with their Indian wives on the Trail of Tears, five brothers born in the Indian Nation served with General Watie in the Late Unpleasantness, also known as the Wa-uh of Southern Independence…
I would be “married” to one, ‘cept the White Man’s law sez I cain’t be due to a commonality of plumbing…
Unmentionable says of the Israelis and the West Bank…Aw, just hold on for 175 or so years, then it’ll be yours and no questions asked…
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:03 pm
St Simons
BTW are you a Pesky Redskin Savage? What breed?
carlosgvv
December 10th, 2011
7:04 pm
I saw on the evening news where a woman in Afghanistan was raped and then jailed because she reported it. Her sentence was eight years in prison unless she agreed to marry the man who raped her. She agreed and will be released. Can anyone give me even one good reason why our soldiers should be fighting and dying for a country like this?
bman
December 10th, 2011
7:07 pm
carlos .. .. wow! That was a very scary read
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:10 pm
carlos
And the death sentence for gays…I’m with you on that, but we don’t hear much about it from 1600, do we? A crock of sh*t…
bman
December 10th, 2011
7:17 pm
Josef .. ..Afghanistan has a death penalty for anyone who is gay??? I did not know that. And apparently it seems as if a man can choose which wife he wants by raping her? Good grief!!
What do you do about places like that? Nothing?
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:23 pm
Yeah, that’s the nation we “built.” Our buddies in Saudi Arabia do, too. And the Fierce Advocate’s hate monger buddy the preacher Warren has been funneling shekels to the faction in Uganda which was out to make the death sentence law there.
Kamchak
December 10th, 2011
7:25 pm
What do you do about places like that?
Use it as a platform for testing weapon systems.
USSR did it in the 80s, we started in the 2000s
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2011
7:28 pm
Josef “And the death sentence for gays…I’m with you on that, but we don’t hear much about it from 1600, do we? A crock of sh*t…”
Are you talking about Malawi? Maybe you should pay closer attention:
“Malawi to review homosexuality ban after US aid threat”
“Move comes after Barack Obama told US agencies to consider local gay rights when making foreign aid allocation decisions”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/09/malawi-homosexuality-ban-review?newsfeed=true
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 10th, 2011
7:29 pm
Can anyone give me even one good reason why our soldiers should be fighting and dying for a country like this?
While I do not agree with the outcome you related (I am horrified), how do you think our soldiers feel fighting for a country that allows their homes to be taken in violation of law with no punishment to the people that have done that, to allow soldiers to die in the fight for their country only to return to a country that will not allow them the right of marriage to the person of their choice if that person is of the same sex, a country where some blowhard sheriff can mistreat “illegals” but allow inadequate investigations of sex crimes against them (including child molestation)…. I can continue with any number of examples of horrific miscarriages of justice in this country.
This country is far from perfect and we have had a 200+ year head start.
St Simons - we're on Dawg time
December 10th, 2011
7:30 pm
josef – I am Creek, and a CPA. They say we have a knack for that
occupation. We sold our lands fair & square, and my great great
grandfather bought some back fair & square. Still have it, in Troup Co.
I have a two-spirit friend (a drummer) with the exact same issue as you.
And they say we were uncivilized.
saywhat?
December 10th, 2011
7:32 pm
Josef -
“Sorta the Southerners of the Middle East, wouldn’t you say?”
That’s just mean. Even Newt never said they were slow and little bit inbred. Now the Palestinians are going to be REALLY pissed!
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:33 pm
Doggone
No. Uganda. Luckily pressure from Western Europe coupled with support of the liberal factions in the republic put the proposal on hold…Warren continues to send money to the faction supporting the proposed legislation and the Washington government recently agreed to up military aid and trainers there, where the military is under the sway of the anti gay faction…
Newtpewt
December 10th, 2011
7:37 pm
The Newtron Bomb’s odiferous emanations are effectively turning the GOP base into the Walking Dead; hordes of the mindless that want your brains
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:40 pm
St Simon’s
Neat! Yeah, the Creeks were pretty adept at playing both ends against the middle…I’ve been impressed by the recent efforts of those still here on native land at reconstituting the identity, particularly the efforts to cultivate the language…amazing! When we went up to Floyd County, our place was at the foot of Turnip Mountain, Watie’s old homeplace…as Unmentionable taught the kids, “we have overcome…we’re back home…”
Doggone/GA
December 10th, 2011
7:41 pm
“No. Uganda”
Ok, but still…the point is that 1600 IS doing something about gay rights. The important quote is the 2nd one
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:41 pm
saywhat
Okay, I don’t care who you are, thass funny!
bman
December 10th, 2011
7:41 pm
Keep .. .. that’s some comparison. Seriously…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 10th, 2011
7:49 pm
bman… I am sure I can find many more and if we go through the history of this country even more injustices. Let’s quit playing the “shyte” of this country is soooo much better. It all stinks and every day people work to try to make it right.
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:50 pm
Doggone
1600 is doing a quasi competent job domestically…they’re still backing Saudi Arabia to the hilt, nation building in Afghanistan and backing the wrong faction in Uganda…it’s easy enough to pressure a Malawi, but the real test is Saudi Arabia and the nation we are sacrificing the lives of our servicement to “build” in Afghanistan…but, then, as far as gay rights are concerned, we’re behind such places as Andorra,Argentina. Australia, Brazil, Colombia, Croatia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Ireland, Israel, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, New Zealand, Peru, Slovenia, Switzerland, the United Kingdom and Uruguay…to name a few…
bman
December 10th, 2011
7:57 pm
Keep .. .. I was being sarcastic. To say that gays cannot legally marry is “horrific” in the U.S. when being gay is punishable by death in Afghanistan ….I don’t even know how to respond to someone who thinks that way.
You do not see a difference? Really?
josef
December 10th, 2011
7:58 pm
Doggone
And as for that second quote…don’t hold too much sway with such havens of tolerance as the ones I mentioned and a long, long, list of others…a crock of horse sh*t…as I said…
josef
December 10th, 2011
8:01 pm
bman
As you might expect, I have a lot to say in reference to what you alluded to in your @ 7:57, but suffice it to say for here, don’t you never read yore memos either?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 10th, 2011
8:09 pm
bman… I know you were being sarcastic. And no you dont comprehend injustice. You don’t like the particular examples, that is your problem. I see you chose the marriage issue rather than the molestation of children that a certain sheriff turned a blind eye too. You might want to get that superiority nose out of the air and down a little bit to smell around you. I see many differences and I see similarties. I have seen worse injustices at times in this country’s history.
Oh and there are gay people dying in this country at the hands of bullies and others who attack them.
josef
December 10th, 2011
8:14 pm
good fight
I don’t quite get the tiff here…I don’t read what bman is saying as being particularly anti-gay…
As for your own point, let’s get real…the PSU-Syracuse thing ain’t raising a lot of hackles when it is but the tip of the iceberg of something that straight-laced, sports maniacs want swept under the carpet rather than face head on…not much different than 1600’s policies in the countries practicing capital punishment on gays…turn a blind eye when it might make you have to face unpleasnt “little details.”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 10th, 2011
8:18 pm
josef, you misinterpret. I have not said a thing about bman being anti-gay and I have not said a thing about PSU-Syracuse. I have said that things in Afghanistan are far from perfect but let’s stop this bull of thinking that this country does not have its own share of injustice still and in some cases it is as bad that the “horrors” that some want to cite as a basis to condemn an entire people.
bman
December 10th, 2011
8:19 pm
Keep .. ..Why did I only mention the marriage/gay issue? Maybe because that was the most silly comparison I have ever heard. I have no disagreement with you on the other. Carlos and Josef stated a her-and-now kinda thing…not history. Welcome to 2011.
“Oh and there are gay people dying in this country at the hands of bullies and others who attack them.”
And that, like anyone else of any sexual orientation, is wrong. Bullies don’t attack only gays lol
Death for being gay VS can’t get married. I’ll run that 2-option deal past my business partner who is gay and ask his opinion.
Kamchak
December 10th, 2011
8:22 pm
Not entering my comments about this here
josef
December 10th, 2011
8:26 pm
good fight
I agree with you and bman both, you see.
There IS a whale of a difference between living in a society where you can be put to death for who you are and one where you are still battling for equality. And, you are right in making the point that we do have our own dirty laundry and have a long way to go.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 10th, 2011
8:32 pm
I don’t disagree there is a difference. I also know that there are Americans who have helping to fuel those horrific actions in Uganda directly and indirectly. That is shameful and the connection to some of the C Street group undeniable.
St Simons - we're on Dawg time
December 10th, 2011
8:36 pm
Calista Gingrich’s new book about her rise from mistress to
potential First Lady: “Yes Virginia, There is a Pantie Clause.”
Jm
December 10th, 2011
8:39 pm
Putin learning about democracy
Could get interesting
josef
December 10th, 2011
8:40 pm
I am old enough to remember the bad old days before Stonewall. As gay people began to organize and try to set an agenda, there were two factions who were often at each other’s throats in trying to determine where to place our priorities. The one faction called for efforts to educate the straight community to just how much like them we are, social acceptance if you will. The other faction said to essentially scr*w social acceptance and get the laws off the books. I was of the latter faction and did not hold the former in very high regard, calling them Aunt Tomosinas. They did gain the upper hand and, in retrospect, they may well have been right. Once the straight world got a chance to let loose and party at the disco and once they, too, saw the thousands of people “just like them” dying from the plague, there was a sea change in their attitudes and the dismantling of the legal structure has proceeded more rapidly than those of us from the bad old days could ever have imagined. Equality? We’re not there yet, but we’re a long way down the road. But allowing our government to back, support, and fund regimes which are even more barbaric than we were back then? No!
St Simons - we're on Dawg time
December 10th, 2011
8:40 pm
If Obama gets Newt in the General, he won’t have to contact his doctor
because he won’t have an election that lasts more than 4 hours.
josef
December 10th, 2011
8:42 pm
good fight
C Street? 1600…who was it “blessed” the Obama adminstration at the innaugural….?
Kamchak
December 10th, 2011
8:42 pm
Putin learning about democracy
Occupy Moscow?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
December 10th, 2011
8:50 pm
josef, i disagreed with that selection then too.
bman
December 10th, 2011
8:56 pm
I am going to watch my first republican debate tonight
josef
December 10th, 2011
8:56 pm
good fight…
Good! i voted against him for his happy horse sh*t on Prop 8 and have held him in distrust ever since bringing that cretin in…and the recent moves in Uganda certainly don’t sound like Fierce Advocacy to me…
I’m not one of those anti-Obamistas who thinks that his every action is wrong, but as a gay man, he’s no hero of mine.
josef
December 10th, 2011
8:57 pm
bman
Oh, noooooo! Poke your eyes out instead…a lot less painful…
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
8:59 pm
@josef December 10th, 2011 6:49 pm – GOP is the Party
I’m a happy and gay white man myself…don’t watch much on TLC, though…you strike me as an individual with issues…Unmentionable wants to know what you got against white men? You one of them black white men? “Not as ugly, but every bit as crazy…”
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I am happy that you are a happy gay white man. You are probably among the few white men that is truly happy.
I have nothing against ALL white men except that SOME of them are angry people.
They bi*ch about things that they created, they moan when things do not go their way, they lie and cheat to get what they want by any means necessary, they do not play by the rules, they berate other people’s opinions, they think they own the world, they are racists, and some of them even go after innocent children.
Yes, some white men are angry because that is who they are.
bman
December 10th, 2011
9:01 pm
josef .. .. haha
I have to watch one!
Jay
December 10th, 2011
9:07 pm
So Josef, let’s review:
End of DADT;
End of Defense of Marriage Act;
Gay rights as a partial condition of foreign aid;
Creation of Global Equality Fund, to finance gay-rights initiatives around globe;
Probably more progress ever made on gay rights than under any previous president, all that in three years.
So … not enough?
Jay
December 10th, 2011
9:15 pm
Bachmann opposes payroll tax cut; claiming falsely that $110 billion taken out of Social Security Trust Fund to pay for it. The legislation is written to ensure that doesn’t happen.
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:16 pm
I am watching the Republican debate THEY ALL TALK A GOOD GAME but can they deliver?
Once they are in the White House it is not going to be THAT EASY to do all the things they propose.!
They will find out IF…… IF they get elected!
bman
December 10th, 2011
9:20 pm
I am watching, too. No one (democrats or republicans) have a solution to outsourcing jobs to other countries. I don’t know the answer, either.
You have Company A competing against Company B. Company A decides to outsource much of their operations. They are then able to price their product lower than Company B.
What is Company B supposed to do?
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:20 pm
Romney is not the ‘CHRISTIAN” he wants everyone to believe he is.
Slinging mud and lying about Obama playing golf is DIRTY….VERY DIRTY.
Romney is a lying hypocrite!
Kamchak
December 10th, 2011
9:20 pm
Yeah, I kinda expected that moderation thingie.
josef
December 10th, 2011
9:21 pm
Jay
End of DADT…
Yep, and he signed it…but you know and I know just how much pressure was put there by the likes of the Log Cabin Republicans and Johnny Reb,,,Fierce Advocacy, it wasn’t , but yes, he did sign it..
DOMA ended? Do, tell? When?
jack bull
December 10th, 2011
9:24 pm
Obama does play a whole lot of golf.
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:25 pm
Mitt Romney is a PHONY! Newt is an idiot who thinks he is smarter than the average person.
Uh oh, Newt is mad. Now they are slinging mud at each other (Romney & Newt). Hahahahahaha:)
Here we go, Newt spewing that b*llshit about children who need to work.
The rest of the candidates should just go away and let Newt and Romney fight among themselves.
jack bull
December 10th, 2011
9:26 pm
Is Obama going to ‘disappear’ at Christmas time again this year? Just seems strange for some reason. Can’t put my finger on it.
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:26 pm
Ron Paul says that Newt is a hypocrite.
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:27 pm
@jack bull December 10th, 2011 9:24 pm Obama does play a whole lot of golf.
He was not playing golf when he killed bin laden!!!!!!
Jay
December 10th, 2011
9:29 pm
I’d say the gloves are off. Rock’em sock’em robots up there.
Jay
December 10th, 2011
9:29 pm
“Newt Romney” … says Bachmann. Throwing leather.
josef
December 10th, 2011
9:31 pm
Jay
Be still my jerking fingers!
Foreign aid…how many billion in Afghanistan? How many billion to Saudi Arabia? Yemen? That litltle deal with Uganda? Yea, sure, unh-huh, whatever…
Global Quality Fund? How much? Where spent? On what.?
Not enough? Oh, scuse me, Massachusetts, guess I jes don know how to appreciate chitlins, me an my uppity self… Of course I’m not satisfied..when my35 year relationship gets the same legal status as yours and the miss us, maybe, but until then, nope…
Jay
December 10th, 2011
9:31 pm
Well, the administration announced it would no longer defend DOMA in court, because it concluded it was unconstitutional.
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:32 pm
@jack bull December 10th, 2011 9:26 pm – Is Obama going to ‘disappear’ at Christmas time again this year? Just seems strange for some reason. Can’t put my finger on it.
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So the Black man cannot celebrate christmas with his family but the WHITE MAN CAN?
For the record Geoge W. Bush took more time off as president than Obama has.
bman
December 10th, 2011
9:33 pm
It happens in every debate on every level.
I don’t want to hear candidates explain why people should not vote for someone else. I want to hear why I should vote for YOU.
Jay
December 10th, 2011
9:33 pm
You’re ducking the question, Josef.
You know and I know that more progress has been made in the past three years on gay rights than under any previous president, and it’s not even close.
jack bull
December 10th, 2011
9:34 pm
uh,not true.
and i didn’t know Obama was in Pakistan when Bin Laden was killed. dang. sorry.
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:35 pm
Looks like Rick Perry has done his homework! So far he is speaking with some intelligence!
josef
December 10th, 2011
9:35 pm
GOP/white men
Just remember as you rant, red men and brown men can, and do,saw the same thing about black men. Equality, ain’t it grand…
jack bull
December 10th, 2011
9:35 pm
oh, and nice sport, playing the race card, huh? well, we know….
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:37 pm
@jack bull December 10th, 2011 9:34 pm – uh,not true. and i didn’t know Obama was in Pakistan when Bin Laden was killed. dang. sorry.
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You made my point again….WHITE MEN ARE ANGRY!
Don’t be a stupid idiot. Obama CALLED THE SHOTS!
Jay
December 10th, 2011
9:38 pm
“Angry,” you’re the one coming across as angry here, repeatedly. You have made your point by now I think.
jack bull
December 10th, 2011
9:38 pm
let each state do their own thing, sounds easy enough.
The GOP is the Party of Angry White Men In Need of Some TENDER LOVING CARE!
December 10th, 2011
9:39 pm
@josef December 10th, 2011 9:35 pm GOP/white men
Just remember as you rant, red men and brown men can, and do,saw the same thing about black men. Equality, ain’t it grand…
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jack bull
December 10th, 2011
9:39 pm
name calling now, huh? wow.