Is the 2012 GOP going to pull a 1964?
While I still expect Mitt Romney to be the Republican nominee for president, I have to admit that data such as this, from a recent Quinnipiac poll of registered Republican or Republican-leaning voters, give me pause:
Three out of four believe it’s more important to nominate someone who shares their beliefs on the issues rather than someone capable of beating the hated Obama? At first, I thought that must be some anomaly, something gone awry with the polling. But I checked around and found a CBS poll that asked a similar question this month.
Again, “58 percent said they believe it’s more important to have a nominee who agrees with them on the issues than one who can beat Mr. Obama next year. Thirty-nine percent said the opposite.”
That’s not the 74-24 split reported in the Quinnipiac poll, but it’s still an overwhelming margin. It helps to explains why Karl Rove and others among the party’s Washington elite seem more and more frustrated by Romney’s inability to close the deal. It also explains why certain well-connected conservative columnists are becoming increasingly harsh in their attacks on Newt Gingrich (see here and here).
They fear, with good cause, that the GOP is at least open to another “Goldwater moment,” in which it selects a champion based on emotional resonance with the base rather than his chances of success come November. That’s the opening through which Gingrich hopes to wriggle. If you look at their records, he’s no more conservative than Romney. But he is better equipped, both emotionally and rhetorically, to give GOP voters the red meat that they crave.
– Jay Bookman
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Odis
November 29th, 2011
4:08 pm
Well let’s be truthful, it’s not like the republicans have any good choices for candidates any way you read the tea leaves.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
4:13 pm
Purity pledge.
jewcowboy
November 29th, 2011
4:15 pm
Kamchak,
“Purity pledge.”
The modern GOP’s tent: http://www.amazon.com/SE-8-Foot-Lightweight-Emergency-Camping/dp/B000WYJS2U
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
4:16 pm
But Newt will destroy Obama in a debate {presuming the scoring is done by the right wingnut base only]
Jack
November 29th, 2011
4:21 pm
No one in their right mind is going to vote for Obama: especially if you own a business.
jewcowboy
November 29th, 2011
4:22 pm
“No one in their right mind is going to vote for Obama: especially if you own a business.”
Even Karl Rove puts Obama with at least 45% of the vote…against an unknown Republican candidate.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
4:24 pm
You base that on what Jack? Some facts? So you think anyone can beat Obama?
getalife
November 29th, 2011
4:25 pm
Great. Run newt.
Landslide for four more years.
They should take this loss better this time.
JamVet
November 29th, 2011
4:25 pm
From that WaPo link…
Gingrich’s serial adultery and his current hypocrisy suggest not a immoral man, but an amoral one. Rules, shame, punishment, consistency and transparency are abstractions for him, tools to be wielded against political opponents while his own supposed brilliance and patriotism exempt him from the standards that mere pols must follow. Really, is this a person whose values and judgment you’d trust to manage a charity or hold a leadership position in your church, let alone occupy the Oval Office?
Newt’s not gonna like the view from the back of the plane…
Granny Godzilla
November 29th, 2011
4:25 pm
Our family owns 2 businesses….and we’re voting Obama.
Granny Godzilla
November 29th, 2011
4:26 pm
Newt 2012
Holy Crap that’s Funny
jewcowboy
November 29th, 2011
4:29 pm
What about Santorum?
Santorum 2012: A frothy mix for America!
pogo
November 29th, 2011
4:30 pm
Who cares if your family owns two businesses Granny Gums?. The answer, nobody.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
4:32 pm
pogo is frothing for some denture gripe apparently or is it gummy gripes?
USMC
November 29th, 2011
4:34 pm
“Is the 2012 GOP going to pull a 1964?”–Jay Bookman
Pretty typical for Jay Bookman; Pure Bluster and weak-minded delusion.
Granny Godzilla
November 29th, 2011
4:34 pm
pogo
Aren’t you just the sweetest little fella God ever put on this earth!
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
4:36 pm
Who cares if your family owns two businesses Granny Gums?
Spoken like a true W-2 nine to fiver.
Got envy?
Scooter
November 29th, 2011
4:38 pm
Four more years of blaming others for The Obama’s lack of leadership and experience?
Granny Godzilla
November 29th, 2011
4:38 pm
when it comes to the economy, Gingrich believes we’re all one people, and we must pay no attention to the wealth that divides us. When it comes to the culture war, we’re not one people, and those who believe as Gingrich does should target and defeat those Americans who disagree.
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
4:38 pm
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/29/obamas-job-approval-drops-below-carters
Your boy is really looking good right now! All he needs is Billy for his brother.
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
4:39 pm
The GOP shall reap the Faux “news” that it has sown over the years. It couldn’t happen to a better bunch.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
4:41 pm
This is the third thread that you’ve spammed with that Obama v. Carter approval.
Too funny!
And desperate.
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
4:42 pm
If Mitt could get SayRah to be his hail mary, would evangelicals come out and vote for him.
USinUK
November 29th, 2011
4:44 pm
“No one in their right mind is going to vote for Obama: especially if you own a business.”
okay, I’ll play.
why? and, please be specific and show your work.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
4:46 pm
Taxpayer, not if Gingrich taps into his Tiffany’s account first, he could “seduce” Snowbillie Snooki as the highest bidder. The real question is will she be willing to a VP candidate on another failing ticket? Oh wait, not “will” but “how much to be”
JamVet
November 29th, 2011
4:46 pm
No one in their very, very far right wing mind is going to vote for Obama.
BFD.
Right now, I doubt the cons could take 150 electoral college votes…
Obama must feel like Ronnie, laughing at the prospect of Walter Mondale as his competition…
pogo
November 29th, 2011
4:47 pm
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/nov/28/bye-bye-berwick/
Another one of Obama’s socialist rats abandoning ship. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
And yes Granny, I have my moments!
Recon 0311 2533
November 29th, 2011
4:48 pm
With the economy barely sputtering along, high unemployment, an ever growing deficit and Obama’s low job approval numbers it would seem unlikely that he’ll win a second term but strange things can and do happen. I do believe the Republicans will hold on to the House and have a very good chance of controlling the Senate.
Jim
November 29th, 2011
4:48 pm
“Is the 2012 GOP going to pull a 1964?”–Jay Bookman
Pretty typical for Jay Bookman; Pure Bluster and weak-minded delusion.
thanks ISMC for making no sense again.
Granny Godzilla
November 29th, 2011
4:49 pm
pogo
not from were we sit…..
USinUK
November 29th, 2011
4:49 pm
“All he needs is Billy for his brother.”
hahahahaha … are you honestly comparing the GOP (very shallow) pool of candidates to Uncle Ronnie Ray-Gun?
saywhat?
November 29th, 2011
4:50 pm
Let them pull a 1964 in 2012, but better yet, here’s hoping they pull a combined 2002-2004 in 2012.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
4:50 pm
Ooooh, the Moonie Times.
Cool reference.
Thulsa Doom
November 29th, 2011
4:51 pm
Granny,
But meatloaf is good. My point is that obama wasn’t exactly poor. Its not as if the guy grew up in the projects and its well documented that he never really wanted for much. For someone to make it sound as if he came from a poor background would be quite a stretch. My family was low income also. Dad was enlisted e3 with 3 kids and a stay at home mom. Mom told me there were times when were tots that there wasn’t enough money for milk and bread at times. Even though we didn’t have much we as kids had no idea how little we had. Only later do we realize how little we had. Don’t go making fun of meatloaf though. Life is good for me now but I still love my meatloaf. Ramen noodles? Not so much.
saywhat?
November 29th, 2011
4:51 pm
OOPS! I meant 2006-2008. Doh!
M
November 29th, 2011
4:53 pm
I own a business that’s had its best three years ever under Obama, so I’m voting for him. Investing in the stock market right around the time of his inauguration has paid dividends as well.
Communists Unite
November 29th, 2011
4:54 pm
USMC @ 4-something pee em: “Pretty typical for Jay Bookman; Pure Bluster and weak-minded delusion.”
Keep believing that. Please. With a cherry on top. And convince your friends of same. K? Thanks much (eedyot).
Granny Godzilla
November 29th, 2011
4:54 pm
Thulsa
If you mean the kind of poor that Republicans think is poor – the Biafra
Sudan kind of poor you are correct he always had a meal – sometimes provided by food stamps.
But other than that you ignore reality.
He is the American Dream…and get’s your silly old goat don’t it!
Poverty envy – is that the new GOP trend or what?
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
4:55 pm
I see that Congress’s approval rating has jumped. It’s up to 12.3 percent. Ouch. Perhaps Boehner should think about actually doing something. Maybe pass some anti-abortion legislation or something defunding NPR or re-affirming current uncontested legislation, or more bigger tax cuts for the Koch crooks. You know, those little things that help put people to work.
ld
November 29th, 2011
4:57 pm
While I believe milk-toast Mitt will be the next GOP nominee….if wrong about Newt,
W/some glee, I will await the efforts of the right-wingers to defend the hypocracy of Newt, whilst he was in a positiion of considerable power and influence, yet leading the charge against another “doing” as the one he was condemning–and in the process also being stupid enough to be subject to potentital blackmail efforts.
I do not much care for the inept Obama; however, the Supreme Court is at issue and Roberts has proven the GOP is a disaster for individual liberty in any effort of the employee class of the masses vs. the power of money of the mega-rich investor class.
How many “good Christians” are going to want to stand strongly for Newt; how many are going to prefer to wait for the 2016 election and run themselves?
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
4:57 pm
No desperation here, I keep trying to get you Ostrich libs to at least acknowledge even 1 piece of negative news about your boy. At least cons are honest enough to make some concessions about their candidates.
Butch Cassidy
November 29th, 2011
5:00 pm
Jack – “No one in their right mind is going to vote for Obama: especially if you own a business.”
No one in their right mind is going to vote for Obama: especially if you own a business and hang on everyword that Hannity, Limbaugh and Boortz feed directly to your brain and convince you that despite record profits and a hugely successful stock market, Obama is bad for business and must go ASAP.
There Jack, fixed your typo.
Butch Cassidy
November 29th, 2011
5:03 pm
Ross Perot – “No desperation here, I keep trying to get you Ostrich libs to at least acknowledge even 1 piece of negative news about your boy.”
Okay, I think that Obama should have focused more attention on jobs and the economy instead of pushing the HCA during his first year. But then again, had he done so, we might actually have a stronger recovery, and I wouldn’t be privy to a plethora of witty names like Obozo, Oblahblah, Obozonomics and the like. Idiot Messiah – I put that shizz on everything!
Joe Hussein Mama
November 29th, 2011
5:06 pm
Doom — “My point is that obama wasn’t exactly poor.”
Punahou isn’t a ‘rich kids’ school. It’s a very, very good private school, but most kids go there on a scholarship. Hawaii’s got several extremely good private schools with very, very fat endowments, generally historically connected in some way with Hawaiian royalty (who, at least until their overthrow, technically owned all real estate in the entire island chain). Punahou, like Iolani and Kamehameha, benefits from an endowment stemming from that. That endowment is used to support and sustain the campus, and to defray costs for students who couldn’t afford to pay full tuition — which most Punahou students’ families can’t afford.
Competition is INTENSE in Hawaii to get into Punahou or Iolani (Kamehameha mainly services students of mostly Hawaiian blood and is generally considered the hardest to get into), not just for the quality of the education (which is very good) but for the quality of the connections you and your family will make. Lots of Punahou students have gone on to great things in many different fields, which is not a bad record for a private school in a relatively small state.
Check them out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punahou_School
Common Sense
November 29th, 2011
5:06 pm
So much worry on behalf of the democrats about the choice of the republicans. Especially when it is none of your business who they pick.
Democrats did not know who they would have on the top of the ticket until June of 2008. So if you are going to get involved when it is none of your business, you should at least wait until a few votes are cast.
Meanwhile, there is nothing in the works to strengthen tie economy, and it is indeed slowing down sharply. You best get busy trying to explain how what is happening has nothing to do with the person that has been POTUS for 3 years.
And that will take some serious work.
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
5:07 pm
At least cons are honest enough to make some concessions about their candidates.
You mean like Cain’s all you can tweet supply of women troubles for only $9.99. Or perhaps you refer to Mitt’s Florida business, The Flip-Flop Shop where only every other pair will cost you. Or maybe Perry is who you query. He’s one mo mean mofo. You don’t wanna mess with him. Or perhaps you refer to the Newt. He’s a real hoot. Where else could you hope to find someone as diverse whether the topic be warming seats at the rear of the plane or how the south will finally win the war against northern aggression, he’s your man, and her man and hers and hers.
Jay
November 29th, 2011
5:08 pm
Truthbe:
“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
Communists Unite
November 29th, 2011
5:10 pm
@ Common (Non)sense – true that Democrats didn’t know who their candidate would be in June of ‘08; however, it was clear that whoever it was (ie, Clinton or Obama), they’d be formidable. But ya can’t say that about Mitt the Twitt or the Newtser. You can, however, say this: 4 MORE YEARS!!!!!! YIPPEE!!!
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2011
5:12 pm
“So much worry on behalf of the democrats about the choice of the republicans”
worry? Subsitute amusement for that word and you’ll be MUCH closer to the truth
Jimmy62
November 29th, 2011
5:13 pm
So are you going to apologize for all the times you said conservatives only care about beating Obama (and that they are racist because of it)?
Communists Unite: You remind me of the useful idiots that were the first ones Lenin and Castro killed once they came to power.
pogo
November 29th, 2011
5:17 pm
At this stage in his presidency, Obama’s performance approval numbers are now the lowest of any president in American history. Lower even than Jimmy Carter’s. As a human being, Obama may be a really nice guy (which I kind of doubt) but as a president, he has been a catastrophy. When he came into office he had no aspirations of actually having to lead and govern this country. He just wanted to (1) be the first black president and (2) try to make America as much like Europe as he could. Most of his promises in 08 turned out to be nothing but garbage, but man did he know his supporters. He could have told them that he was going to tear down the Whitehouse and build a brothel there and they would have still followed him because the average Obama voter wants as much from the government as they can get. They want the government to give them something which they won’t have to earn on their own and to let someone else pay for it and he, being the consumate Chicago politician, was glad to promise that to them in 08. No matter if he leaves in 2013 or 2017, Obama is going to leave this country in economic shambles.
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2011
5:18 pm
“So are you going to apologize for all the times you said conservatives only care about beating Obama”
Why should he?
“Well that is true, [making Obama a one-term President is] my single most important political goal along with every active Republican in the country.”
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sen-mcconnell-making-obama-a-one-term-president-is-my-single-most-important-political-goal/
Joe Hussein Mama
November 29th, 2011
5:23 pm
pogo — “He could have told them that he was going to tear down the Whitehouse and build a brothel there and they would have still followed him because the average Obama voter wants as much from the government as they can get. They want the government to give them something which they won’t have to earn on their own and to let someone else pay for it ”
Not intended to be true statements.
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
5:24 pm
How does that 12.3% (up from 11.3%) Congressional approval rating compare with historical levels. Is that Republican scorched earth policy — i.e, the take out Obama no matter the cost policy — still working for ya.
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
5:27 pm
Cain’s cooked. Assuming not all of the women are lying, (lol) the mere thought that he had the ba!!s to give it a try and hope people would look past it is offensive in itself to me. Newt has had his foibles but unfortunately I think he has the best chance to work with both sides to get things done and has some good ideas especially on immigration. Romney does what is politically expedient. He is gambling on holding the center and force the far right to hold their nose and pull for him. Unfortunately, Huntsmen is probably the smartest on foreign affairs,pure as a preachers sheets and doesn’t stand a prayer. The intriguing part is how many people, like myself, could look past Newt’s past and pull the lever in hopes of getting things done to get the country moving in a positive direction again?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
5:27 pm
I thought we already had a wh@rehouse in DC called Congress.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
5:33 pm
So much worry on behalf of the democrats about the choice of the republicans. Especially when it is none of your business who they pick.
Sorry, sport.
Georgia’s Republican primary is open to anyone regardless of political affiliation
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
5:41 pm
‘Member Operation Chaos?
We could play that game too.
Vote Newt in the Georgia Republican Primary!
I’d have to shower afterwards.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
5:43 pm
eeeewwwwww…. I never even voted for Newt when he was my congressman. Granny, you may want to consider a skin peel to remove that kind of stank.
Thomas
November 29th, 2011
5:44 pm
Granny- you led so I would like to know what are the businesses, top and bottom line revenue, and number of employees. Out of no less than 20 or business owners with top lines ranging from 500k to 100 million I have not spoken to any Obama supporters. Correspondingly, very few are express any excitement over the Republican nominees.
Anywho- your right to privacy.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
5:47 pm
Out of no less than 20 or business owners with top lines ranging from 500k to 100 million I have not spoken to any Obama supporters.
It was just the other day when I was standing in line at Whole Foods….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
5:47 pm
And Thomas moves the goalposts across the field.
DH-ATL
November 29th, 2011
5:47 pm
Why would anybody who owns a business (I do) vote for an obstructionist party bent on ruining the economy for their own political gain?– The republicans really are bordering on treasonous with their do nothing to make things better 2012 strategy–
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
5:48 pm
Obama spent his birthday with Oprah while his
family was in Spain and Newt gets called out for
his peccadilloes.
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
5:50 pm
No one on this candidate list is a Barry Goldwater although
He probably outsexed them all combined.
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
5:53 pm
What is a sock pocket?
bman
November 29th, 2011
5:54 pm
“Out of no less than 20 or business owners with top lines ranging from 500k to 100 million I have not spoken to any Obama supporters.”
I know quite a few business owners, too. I have yet to find one who is for Obama.
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
5:57 pm
bman, Thomas, who do the business owners support?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
November 29th, 2011
5:57 pm
Well, all this talk about Romney and Newt and nary a word about poor old Herman. Herman’s been done in by a bunch of Delilahs that couldn’t keep their hands off of him. Looks like they finally got him. Heck, even I’m smart enough to know that if you fool around with 8 or 10 women one of them’s bound to tell.
I’m old enough to remember the race in 1964. It sure did make conservatives feel good to hear Goldwater talk the tough conservative line. Election night, not so much. I never saw anybody beat that bad since old Mr. Perkins caught Elmer Pearsall looking into the girls toilet through a peephole. But then I can just see the election ads now if Newt gets the nomination. The camera zooms in on a woman in a hospital bed and a voice starts speaking about how Newt will divorce the voters too once he gets elected.
I reckon I can stand four more years of Obama. What I can’t stand is seeing No. 1 Foxy Lady get on here and tell us all to . . . well, you know. Have a good night everybody.
JamVet
November 29th, 2011
5:57 pm
frog, I believe it is akin to a hot puppet.
This forum is sometimes as scintillating as a Chamber of Commerce networking event…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY3g_c8QUas
F. Sinkwich
November 29th, 2011
6:00 pm
“Obozo-lite” is not an option. This great country needs a true conservative as president in 2012 or our exceptionalism is doomed, as well as our economy.
Sean Smith
November 29th, 2011
6:00 pm
So if through some miracle Newt wins, the next First Lady would be the Adulterous Slut who broke up Newts Marriage. Just love the Republican family values.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
6:00 pm
I guess being a smart ass is better than proving themself a dumbass… Thomas you do know that not everyone who comes to your KidsRKids is a business owner right?
In my experience there are a good number of people in GA who would vote for Obama but because of the fanatical wingnuts and crazies in this state, they usually don’t discuss with the rabid crazies their voting preferences. Biting your tongue because you realize the other person is a crazed wingnut should not be assumed to be support for Republicans. Voting is a private matter and many smart business people don’t discuss these matters in every situation.
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
6:01 pm
JamVet, Thanks. the transmogrification confused me.
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
6:03 pm
Keep, I think bman and Thomas were at a Republican fundraiser…
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
6:04 pm
Lib ilk alert!
bman
November 29th, 2011
6:06 pm
frog .. .. lol – I swear that out of all of the business owners I have talked to, not one has said who they support. The “talk” never gets past Obama. The ones I have talked to have a feeling of serious disdain for Obama. I have never asked “who” they support. In my line of business, I try not to offend anyone about anything.
carlosgvv
November 29th, 2011
6:07 pm
The only thing we can say for certain at this time is that the campaign will be more negative than ever. If Ginrich gets the nomination, the campaing will strongly resemble a mud wrestling match. Just what you would expect from an increasingly dumbed down America.
bman
November 29th, 2011
6:09 pm
frog .. .. I have never been to a republican or democratic fundraiser lol…I’m just answering the question that you asked.
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
6:09 pm
It’s the do nothing Senate who are the real obstructionists. Obama even screwed up his leg tingling sessions with Chris Matthews. But hey, at least his Obamacare has been a smashing success.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
6:10 pm
The thing that really troubles me about ol’ Newt getting in the White House is the fact that they’ll have to widen all the doors for him to get through. One, on account of his oversized head, and two on account of his oversized ego.
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
6:11 pm
Ross,
Can I call you Ross?
Ross, you said,
“The intriguing part is how many people, like myself, could look past Newt’s past and pull the lever in hopes of getting things done to get the country moving in a positive direction again?”
Except for the proper name “Newt”, I suspect all Americans agree with that sentiment.
Our government will never truly change until the “We the People” change.
My judgement is that Former Speaker Gingrich is not the person to get things moving or even know the correct direction.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
6:14 pm
frog, could be….. Of course that “sample” may not even be reflective of the proclaimed voting preferences.
bman, I have been at a number of meetings where there have been gripes with government and a number of people blaming Obama….but if you pay close attention, you’ll likely see a few with gripes keeping very quiet when the rabid crazies go at it. They know who controls this state politically at this point. Silence should not be mistaken for support. I can assure you in my case it is not. I even frame my arguments incorporate some of their statements when it helps meet the objective.
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
6:14 pm
I really think Romney and Obama will be the candidates and
both being squeaky clean will conduct a fairly positive campaign
but I think it will be the most expensive election that may ever be
conducted. both will spread money like honey on biscuits and
it has already begun..
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
6:17 pm
The real problem the Republicans have is that they are no longer a party with any mass appeal short of the foaming-at-the-mouth, talk radio, low information, uneducated, nut-case, militia hate types.
They no longer have any broad support among Americans. And, I think that’s why they have such a dearth of candidates. Why jump through all of those hoops when you really don’t have any chance of being elected anyway?
Contrary to what some people may think, the American People — in toto — are not stupid. They know that Obama inherited a train wreck. They know that the Republicans are obstructionists and bigots. They know that they are corporate shills.
And, most importantly, they realize that voting for a Republican will likely make things worse rather than better.
bman
November 29th, 2011
6:23 pm
Keep .. .. i have not been to any meetings of any kind. Everyone I have talked to has sorta been a 1 on 1 kind of thing. Most times, I just ask “how’s business?” or how’s everything going.
I’m not saying that’s the national mood of business owners. I’m only stating the people I have talked with and their feelings on the subject.
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
6:23 pm
Thomas
We own GE, Viacom, Halliburton, Xe, Starbucks, White Castle, 10 Senators, 3 Supreme Court Justices, Hanes Her Way and 12 full place settings of Fiestaware in candy apple red – the oval plates and au gratins.
Just kidding.
We are small business owners.
You HAVE heard of small business owners? We are the backbone of this country.
I understand there is some confusion about what a small business really is. That’s us. We’re it.
My pop would never have let a hedge fund manager stick so much as a toe
in the gene pool he got from his folks…..
bman
November 29th, 2011
6:26 pm
Newt is the kind of candidate that most people won’t support publicly. Once in the voting booth, many probably would.
jconservative
November 29th, 2011
6:28 pm
“Is the 2012 GOP going to pull a 1964?”
Yep.
kayaker 71
November 29th, 2011
6:29 pm
Things were much different in 1964 than they are today. Bookman is spouting some liberal spin that will demonize any Repub candidate. LBJ won 61% of the popular vote. Bozo couldn’t win 61% of the popular vote if you cannonized him and made him the Saint that he really believes that he is. Rasmussen today…. only 21% of he electorate strongly approve of this clown. Does that sound like a 61% plurality? And don’t forget that close to 70% of the electorate believes that the country is headed in the right direction. Again, does that sound like a 61% plurality? As Granny would say…. pffile.
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
6:29 pm
Granny, you’re opinion is duly noted. Surely our differences of opinion stem from what we each envision the function of the federal goverment should be, and the accountability of the elected officials on handling our money and social programs.
kayaker 71
November 29th, 2011
6:30 pm
Make that the wrong direction. Have to proof read a little more carefully.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
6:31 pm
Oooooh, the daily Ragamuffin report.
Cool beans!
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
6:34 pm
kayaker: this is the only Rasmussen poll that really counts.
JamVet
November 29th, 2011
6:41 pm
Poor Herman and Newt.
It seems like just yesterday we were all laughing at Donald Hairdo’s threat to get into the race.
I think the GOP may be suffering from terminal Bush-fallout-disease…
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
6:45 pm
foaming-at-the-mouth, talk radio, low information, uneducated, nut-case, militia hate types,They know that the Republicans are obstructionists and bigots. They know that they are corporate shills.
A paraphrase from your liberal stereotyping spokesperson Douchetaster..er Soothsayer. And I thought liberals were supposed to be the party of acceptance and civility.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
6:50 pm
“A paraphrase from your liberal stereotyping spokesperson Douchetaster..er Soothsayer. And I thought liberals were supposed to be the party of acceptance and civility.”
Ross: I have to admit that’s pretty funny. But too easy.
Try this: Here’s why Soothsayer is wrong:
1.
2.
3.
4.
No, I didn’t think so.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
6:51 pm
A paraphrase from your liberal stereotyping spokesperson Douchetaster..er Soothsayer.
Looks like Sooth touched a nerve….
Schrodinger's cat
November 29th, 2011
6:52 pm
“be careful what you wish for”……comes to mind
Newt could be a heck of a contender …Newt/Paul 2012?
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
6:54 pm
Perot,
Don’t you have a flight to catch.
Schrodinger's cat
November 29th, 2011
6:55 pm
A paraphrase from your liberal stereotyping spokesperson Douchetaster..er Soothsayer.
Looks like Sooth touched a nerve…
———————————————————
it did make me giggle in a juvenile sorta way ….it’s more original than most
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
6:57 pm
“Looks like Sooth touched a nerve….”
A stuck pig squeals!
For you erudite posters, way back when, before we lived sanitized lives, people used to slaughter pigs right at home by “sticking” them right in the jugular.
Either that or starve to death.
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
7:01 pm
Ross
Are there any folks who fit that stereotype in the GOP?
Truth-O-Meter
November 29th, 2011
7:03 pm
Granny,
You are priceless!
Keep telling the truth and shaming the devil (that’s what my granny used to say).
Common Sense
November 29th, 2011
7:08 pm
“Sorry, sport.
Georgia’s Republican primary is open to anyone regardless of political affiliation”
Sorry, chump, it’s still none of your business.
ragnar danneskjold
November 29th, 2011
7:09 pm
In 1964 there was only the lamestream media, cheerleading for leftism. Even so, by 1980 the voting population understood the nature of leftism, and its causative relationship to a lousy economy. I suspect the cause is lost for Obama, and any non-Obama will win in 2012.
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
7:10 pm
Didn’t your father teach you not to call people names if you didn’t want to be called names back Douchetaster? Oh that’s right, you never had a father figure.
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
7:12 pm
I was actually leaning toward voting for Mitt in the primary because we already know how that one will play out. The Republican evangelicals will sit out the election.
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
7:14 pm
common sense
it’s absolutely our business Mr. Chump…
(politeness counts)
just in case the GOP could field a candidate worth a hoot.
well, not this year, but y’all gave us TR and Ike…
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
7:17 pm
Sorry, chump, it’s still none of your business.
My folks –die-hard conservatives — voted in the Dem primary for decades.
Kinda different when it’s your ox that’s gored, ain’t it?
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
7:17 pm
rags
if the GOP hasn’t been able to post a mission acomplished banner over
the lame stream media since 1964 what makes you think they can
deal with the middle east, the economy, the environment, walk and chew gum at the same time….
Schrodinger's cat
November 29th, 2011
7:19 pm
Can just anyone vote in a Dem Primary?…if I may show my ignorance and laziness…
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
7:21 pm
I’m sure there are Granny, but I doubt very many could match the passion and vitriol of Douchetaster.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
7:22 pm
Cat
In Ga. anyone can vote in any primary (just one), and vote for a different candidate in the general.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
7:22 pm
“Didn’t your father teach you not to call people names if you didn’t want to be called names back Douchetaster? Oh that’s right, you never had a father figure.”
Ross: your utter frustration and hopelessness is on display for all to see. Only you don’t even realize how foolish you look.
I did not not call you a name — I was speaking metaphorically.
Unfortunately, though, your clairvoyance skills are somewhat rusty because my Father is still alive and we have been together all of our lives.
I knew you wouldn’t take me up on my earlier challenge. So, like some many of your cohorts, you are left with just personal insults and petty insults. Really, Wrath, it’s unbecoming of any intelligent person.
As many before you will testify, I will wear you down long before you wear me down. So, have at it!
Jay
November 29th, 2011
7:24 pm
Now now folks. Let’s cease with the namecalling, etc., please.
Schrodinger's cat
November 29th, 2011
7:26 pm
Thx K
I’m embarrassed not to know that or I should be…but hey, I only got so much bandwith
Bone
November 29th, 2011
7:26 pm
Emotion! Try “I feel your pain!”
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
7:26 pm
I’m sorry I called you a name, Ross, really I am. I sincerely hope that you can somehow accept my apology.
Ninja
November 29th, 2011
7:27 pm
People complain about the stuff Reagan was most culpable for instigating, and yet they idolize him. I only wish I had known the power of BS was that strong when I was younger.
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
7:28 pm
Ross
we’ll have to disagree on that.
mr. g has this cousin jack…
douchetaster? how about jock sniffer? ball scratcher?
if men insult men they should use manly men words.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
7:30 pm
Actually, that douche doesn’t taste all that bad . . . kinda like a summer’s eve!
Schrodinger's cat
November 29th, 2011
7:33 pm
Now GG or is it gg?…he was more creative than that…I by no means condone that kind of banter but it got style points in bad taste…then again, I will watch the 3 stoogies
Soothsayerc
November 29th, 2011
7:33 pm
“He who angers you conquers you.”
– Elizabeth Kenny
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
7:38 pm
GG or gg depends on whether I can use two hands or not…i did somthing to this old notebook and it doesn’t remember me anymore. oddly geriatric.
we’re eating chinese and the egg rolls are pretty good tonight
either that or i’m a double naught spy
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
7:41 pm
People complain about the stuff Reagan was most culpable for instigating, and yet they idolize him. I only wish I had known the power of BS was that strong when I was younger.
It’s all in the delivery and for some reason trickle down does it for a Republican. To each his or her own.
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
7:41 pm
I didn’t take the name personally, i was trying to make a point. I apologize to all offended in the room, including Jay!
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
7:46 pm
Jay @ 7:24 Thanks.
Ross Perot
November 29th, 2011
7:46 pm
Wasn’t there a song by Seals and Croft that went something like, “Summer’s Eve makes you feel fine…?”
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
7:47 pm
Wasn’t there a song by Seals and Croft that went something like, “Summer’s Eve makes you feel fine…?”
No.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
7:48 pm
I suspect that most posters on this blog weren’t fully consious during the Reagan disaster. I was. The only reason the country survived was Tip O’neil.
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
7:52 pm
Mr_B, I admit I was not fully conscious during the Reagan tenure.
At the time i was fully committed to the eradication of alcohol.
I drank all I could find.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
7:55 pm
Kamchak: I beg to differ, there was a song called Summer’s Eve!
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
7:57 pm
Don’t take life too seriously, you’ll never get out alive!!
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
7:57 pm
Mr_B, I admit I was not fully conscious during the Reagan tenure.
At the time i was fully committed to the eradication of alcohol.
I drank all I could find.
Too funny!!
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
7:59 pm
Mr_B
I consciously resisted the canonization of St. Ronnie-of-the-RayGun.
When the hostages were released on 20 January 1981, it was painfully obvious that a deal with Iran had been struck.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
8:00 pm
Frog: The greatest thing I ever got out of drugs was an appreciation for the benefits of ethanol.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:01 pm
Sooth
You just missed by three letters or so.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
8:02 pm
Sooth… that was painful. She’s no Weird Al.
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
8:03 pm
What i remember most about Reagan in 5 words or less…..
Ummmmmm
Ummmmmmm
Ummmmmmm
Alzheimers…….
Matt
November 29th, 2011
8:04 pm
Is this article a jab at GOP or comparing Obama’s presidency to Lindon B. Johnson? I’ll take Goldwater or Gingrich any day of the week! So long as Palin sits on the sidelines.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:05 pm
Keep: you didn’t have to pay to get in did you?
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
8:06 pm
Matt
Take my Goldwater or Gingrich….Please!
They don’t get no respect
Thogwummpy
November 29th, 2011
8:08 pm
Well, one thing is for sure, Obama’s beliefs are shared by a minority of Americans; and the independents have seen the “empty suit” for what he his…an arrogant celebrity that despises the traditional liberty that made this people great.
detritusUSA
November 29th, 2011
8:09 pm
Modern republicans and conservatives are nothing more than old time communist dupes. Power to the top, to hell with every one else.
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
8:10 pm
granny I’ll take your goldwater and raise you with a Nixon. I’ll even throw in Ford.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:11 pm
I hope there’s someone out there who hasn’t seen this yet.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
8:11 pm
Debbie: the great thing about Alzheimer’s is that you get to meet so many new people….
OK, utterly insensitive, but if you can’t laugh you gotta cry. (Lost a couple of relatives to Alzheimer’s)
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
8:12 pm
Well, one thing is for sure, Obama’s beliefs are shared by a minority of Americans; and the independents have seen the “empty suit” for what he his…an arrogant celebrity that despises the traditional liberty that made this people great.
Not intended to be a factual statement.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
8:13 pm
“an arrogant celebrity that despises the traditional liberty that made this people great.”
And outside of your own fevered imagination, how would you support this statement. Facts, please.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
8:13 pm
Sooth, pay to get in? Nope, I am the key master. She was the off-key master.
a reader
November 29th, 2011
8:14 pm
well now that i am a little bit older and a little bit wiser and already know the outcome – it’s still kind of interesting to watch it play out.
Boris Badnoff
November 29th, 2011
8:14 pm
Look at how America and the world have been transformed since The Messiah descended from Heaven and magnanimously consented to become Our God. A thriving, robust economy featuring full employment. An end to partisan divisiveness and everyone is holding hands and singing praises to Our Revered Master. World peace and absolute harmony. North and South Korea have united and attribute their new brotherhood to the example set by Our Nobel Prize Winner. The Iranians, Palestinians, and Israelis have bonded as peas in a pod. And Our Glorious Leader has set a Work Ethic for all to follow; you’ll never find him playing golf or shooting hoops when there are problems that need to be addressed. Whoops. Pardon me. Got a stash of Bookman class weed.
Cynthia Bookman
November 29th, 2011
8:15 pm
No, more like the DEM Party’s goind to pull a 1980.
Recon 0311 2533
November 29th, 2011
8:16 pm
With Obama down 8pts. in his job approval more bad news that the Democrats don’t want to hear.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues
The Great and Powerful Community Organizer
November 29th, 2011
8:17 pm
Americans are lazy.
Look before I leap...
November 29th, 2011
8:18 pm
@ragnar 7:09
Revisionist history ragnar. You have been drinking Rush’s kool-aid again I see.
Since 1952, there have been 9 recessions defined by real GDP contraction. Only one of which happened while a democrat was in the Oval Office. All others happened under GOP executive leadership. Looking at the GDP by year, we seem to do quite well on the average with a democrat in the White House. So much so, its a true wonder that the GOP manages to maintain the myth that they are the party of big business.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:20 pm
Oooooh, a recap of the daily Ragamuffin report.
More cool beans!
Paulo977
November 29th, 2011
8:20 pm
USinUK :why? and, please be specific and show your work.
_______________
Ahhhh not fair!!!!
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:20 pm
President Barak Obama is the MOST divisive President in U.S. history.
He is using tactic straight from the Bolshevik Marxist playbook; “CLASS WARFARE”.
And as usual the less intelligent DemocRats and useful idiots have fallen for it; hook, line, and sinker.
Dogs 34 LSU 17!
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:21 pm
Is the 2012 DNC going to pull a 1917?
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:22 pm
Gosh, Boris, I thought maybe you were talking about Bush there for a minute. Except for the fact that Bush was the “24/7″ President. He worked 24 hours a month, 7 months of the year.
The rest of the time he was “clearing brush” down at the ranch.
Jay
November 29th, 2011
8:24 pm
“With Obama down 8pts. in his job approval more bad news that the Democrats don’t want to hear.”
Gee, for some reason Recon fails to mention that Rasmussen has Obama up six points on both Romney and Gingrich, and up 10 on Cain. And again, that’s Rasmussen.
Speaking of bad news that certain people don’t want to hear and all….
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:26 pm
I think good little Bolshevik “Look before I leap…” is drunk on the Lawrence O’Donnell koolaid.
President Obama has raised our debt more than all previous president combined.
The National Debt Road Trip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yxFtTwDcc
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:26 pm
USMC: my Bolshevik Marxist playbook; “CLASS WARFARE” has done worn out long ago. Heck, I cain’t even read it no more! Could you please post that tactic the Chairman Barack is using. I really would appreciate it! Thanks in advance for your help until I get my new copy in.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:27 pm
The daily Kook?
You really shouldn’t rely on the gooey Drudgey goodness.
Just sayin’.
Schrodinger's cat
November 29th, 2011
8:27 pm
hmmm…
say good night….
Mr_B (aka Moose and Squirrel)
November 29th, 2011
8:27 pm
“Boris Badnoff
November 29th, 2011
8:14 pm
Look at how America and the world have been transformed since The Messiah descended from Heaven and magnanimously consented to become Our God. A thriving, robust economy featuring full employment. An end to partisan divisiveness and everyone is holding hands and singing praises to Our Revered Master. World peace and absolute harmony. North and South Korea have united and attribute their new brotherhood to the example set by Our Nobel Prize Winner. The Iranians, Palestinians, and Israelis have bonded as peas in a pod. And Our Glorious Leader has set a Work Ethic for all to follow; you’ll never find him playing golf or shooting hoops when there are problems that need to be addressed”
Gee, Bullwinkle, this guy REALLY thinks any of the folks that voted for Obama in ‘08 expected him to ON HIS OWN rescue an economy that had been trashed by unpaid for tax cuts and “let the business community police itself” thinking, expected the US could be the world’s police force forever, and to micromanage every facet of the the three branches of government, over which he has any control of only one. They sure must be DISSAPOINTED.
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
8:28 pm
And as usual the less intelligent DemocRats and useful idiots have fallen for it; hook, line, and sinker.
Well now thats not nice.
Dogs 34 LSU 17!
Now thems fight’n words USMC!! You have just gone too far!
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
8:28 pm
The Bolshevik Marxist Playbook
by Dr. Suess
I think I read that.
One Commie Two Commie
Red Commie Blue Commie
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:28 pm
USMC: to decrease the National Debt, would you be willing to reduce Military spending to 2000 (i.e., pre-Bush) levels?
Jay
November 29th, 2011
8:28 pm
President Obama has raised our debt more than all previous president combined.
Outright, blatant lie. Not even close to being true. Repeating such nonsense would embarrass most people.
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:29 pm
“Speaking of bad news that certain people don’t want to hear and all….”–Jay
Sounds like Bluster from the weak-minded ideologues…
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:33 pm
Bluster from weak-minded ideologues?
The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:33 pm
“Outright, blatant lie. Not even close to being true. Repeating such nonsense would embarrass most people.”–Jay
The weak minded like Jay Bookman are taught to say these things to go along with the Party talking points. Honesty is not one of Jay Bookman’s strong points.
Party and philosophy come first and trump the truth in Jay’s twisted Marxist world views.
Jay is taught to say these intellectually dishonest things.
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:35 pm
“The smoking gun is the mushroom cloud.”–Koatchek
I think Koatchek must be high on dope or dog food down at the Occupy Wall Street/Atlanta socialist movement.
Midori
November 29th, 2011
8:36 pm
and intelligence is not one of USMC’s strong points.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:36 pm
USMC: Show Jay up! This here’s yore big chance! Post something that contradicts what he said. Ready!
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:36 pm
Same ol Jay Bookman—you don’t agree with a blogger, and you block them. Typical.
I had a post taken down earlier.
Of course I’m not the one whining like a WATB, you are.
Recon 0311 2533
November 29th, 2011
8:37 pm
“Gee, for some reason Recon fails to mention that Rasmussen has Obama up six points on both Romney and Gingrich, and up 10 on Cain. And again, that’s Rasmussen.”
Sorry Jay but the head to heads will only be significant when the Republicans select their nominee. The worry for Dems is that the head to heads spread across 3 candidates this early and this close doesn’t bode well for Obama’s reelection hopes. Of course you might get Paul Krugman to whip you up a chart that provides hope and change.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:38 pm
I think ol’ USMC has done had a few too many drinks with dinner or his oxycodone is beginning to take effect.
One way or another, your coherency is suffering!
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
8:39 pm
midori
yep no 4 star material there indeed
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:39 pm
I think Koatchek must be high on dope or dog food down at the Occupy Wall Street/Atlanta socialist movement.
Don’t think, Meat; it can only hurt the ball club.
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:39 pm
“Now thems fight’n words USMC!! You have just gone too far!”–Debbie
LOL! Hey Debbie, we’ll see Saturday night if the Bulldogs can pull off another UPSET…
Surly, you remember the last one:
2005 SEC Championship Game: 2005 #13 Georgia 34 #3 LSU 14
Jay
November 29th, 2011
8:40 pm
No, “Cramcrap,” I’m blocking somebody who lacks even the basic level of civility needed to post here without attempting to insult another poster with your lame blog name.
Your mother would be so proud, I’m sure.
Midori
November 29th, 2011
8:40 pm
Mrs G — along with his sidekick Deputy Dawg Del
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:42 pm
Thank God! we got the Sheriff riding along on this here cattle drive! Head ‘em up! Move ‘em out!
Recon 0311 2533
November 29th, 2011
8:43 pm
USMC, we can now attack in every direction. Get cocked, locked and ready to rock.
Midori
November 29th, 2011
8:44 pm
I thought it was my job to defend Kammy!!
I’m suing, Jay!!
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:45 pm
“and intelligence is not one of USMC’s strong points.”–Midori Sour
And I would say that the Marxist/Socialist mentality(garbage) displayed on this blog lacks intelligence.
(what is it again that makes Midori Sour so intelligent??? “crickets”)
Markus Justice
November 29th, 2011
8:45 pm
Obama was a mistake and voters realize it after his second year in office. White voters voted this clown in because of White Guilt and the chance to redeem themselves by taking a chance on a candidate the news media did not vet properly. You would have known his ties to Marxism, radicalism theories of economics and socialist views. He believe the US has to atone for its sin of slavery and capitalism. People forget he wants the elite to rule the country, not you being able to move upward in your career. Remember he said its the government’s job to spread the wealth, not people earning their make in life. Marxism ideology.
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
8:47 pm
USMC: LOL! Hey Debbie, we’ll see Saturday night if the Bulldogs can pull off another UPSET…
Surly, you remember the last one:
2005 SEC Championship Game: 2005 #13 Georgia 34 #3 LSU 14
Sigh. Let’s look at what’s been happening in the years since 2005 why don’t we………..
National Championships – Auburn (1) Alabama (1) Florida (2) LSU (1) Georgia (BIG FAT ZERO).
But they DID win an SEC Championship…
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:47 pm
…defend your little whiny, bed-wetting Kammie. He likes to dis, but can’t handle getting his little feelings hurt.
Too funny!
I’ve been called much worse by a much better class person than you.
But if it makes you fell better to think otherwise….
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:48 pm
“USMC, we can now attack in every direction. Get cocked, locked and ready to rock.”–Recon
Shout out to Recon, Scout and Del, etal ……Yut, Yut!
Midori
November 29th, 2011
8:48 pm
what else can one say about a person who has to LIE to make a point, USMC?
and that “Midori Sour” half @ssed joke is soooooooooooooo 2004………….
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:49 pm
I thought it was my job to defend Kammy!!
Any. Time.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:50 pm
“Obama was a mistake and voters realize it after his second year in office. White voters voted this clown in because of White Guilt and the chance to redeem themselves by taking a chance on a candidate the news media did not vet properly . . .”
Well, it sure seems like more than a few people are “loaded” already at 8:50 tonight!
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
8:52 pm
Let’s see…. my copy of Das Kapital, the Manifesto, Chairman Moa’s Thoughts,the works of Leon Trotsky….. DAMN! Where’s my copy the Bolshevik Marxist playbook?
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:52 pm
Cramcrap: I wouldn’t be threatening anyone on this blog if I were you.
melvinowens
November 29th, 2011
8:52 pm
jack;”nobody in their right mind is going to vote for obama”-sorry jack i am in my right mind and i definitely will vote to re-elect barack obama
USMC
November 29th, 2011
8:53 pm
“National Championships – Auburn (1) Alabama (1) Florida (2) LSU (1) Georgia (BIG FAT ZERO).”–DebbieISright
For once Debbie, I cannot dispute your facts. You are correct. But that won’t stop a major upset this weekend when the Georgia Bulldogs knock off the #1 BCS ranked LSu Bayou Bengals!
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
8:53 pm
Markus – One Word. DECAF.
DEP
November 29th, 2011
8:53 pm
Bookman….quit worrying about Rove……Rahm has mastered all of the Dick Dailey tried and true tricks of dirty campaigns…..this will be the most devisive campaign in the last 125 years of the Republic…count on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
8:55 pm
some folks just can’t play well with others.
cut out the white sugar and flour.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
8:56 pm
““USMC, we can now attack in every direction. Get cocked, locked and ready to rock.”–Recon
Shout out to Recon, Scout and Del, etal ……Yut, Yut!”
OH! HAIL YEAH! Surely, we can find a liberal or a Muslim to kill! Cain’t we?
Except for my point four four mag with the long barrel.
Look before I leap...
November 29th, 2011
8:56 pm
@USMC 7:26
“President Obama has raised our debt more than all previous president combined”
Any citation on that beyond YOUTUBE?
As an FYI, Dubya raised the federal public debt by almost 7 trillion while residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. And tanked the economy and threw 5 million people out of work while at it.
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
8:57 pm
USMC @ 8:53 – Perhaps you should stop drinking your dinner. Just saying……
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
8:58 pm
some folks just can’t play well with others.
No doubt the same reprobate from next door at CT’s
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
9:00 pm
Jay, is it a full moon tonight or something?
Recon 0311 2533
November 29th, 2011
9:01 pm
“Perhaps you should stop drinking your dinner. Just saying……
”
Nothing wrong with drinking your dinner as long as you’re washing it down with good food. Or even if you’re not.
Chuck
November 29th, 2011
9:01 pm
Hi. My name is Chuck.
I am a recovering conservative (gosh I hate that word!). My story is a sad one, at least to me.
My friends were all conservatives so I wanted to be one too just to kind of fit in. I even went to one of those Tea Party things. I felt so wierd among those people wearing flags and stuff and waving the constitution like it was something holy – freaked me out!
I just got out of college. I’m smart. I went to job interview today. I told that manager guy I needed at least $60,000 a year because I have to start paying back my student loans. He asked me if I could wire a 100 amp service panel. WTF? I told him I could recite iambic pentameter sonnets which certainly takes more intelligence. He called me a bad word then asked me to leave his office.
I thought I was alone in my yearning for free college, healthcare, housing, and organic vegetables until I discovered Jay’s blog.
Jay, Granny, getalife, Adam and others here have shown me that I am not alone! THANK YOU!
Obama forever!!!
Look before I leap...
November 29th, 2011
9:01 pm
Sooth
No, no full moon. The threat of snow had some folks stocking up on the basics, beer, vodka and moonshine.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
9:02 pm
Well it looks like a certain stalking troll has returned again tonight…. all that whining about Bookman’s blog but he just can’t quit that foray into whining for attention.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
9:04 pm
man up if they want to dish it…
Me thinks someone is going to be challenged to a meeting…..and then see the “man up” demander run away!
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
9:04 pm
“Big and brave behind the anonymity of the blogging world.”
As far as I’m concerned that is a threat to me.
You know what? You don’t have anything to say. You’re just “noise.” But, what the heck, bring it! I love a good fight! And I’ve got all night! Long after you pass out!
JamVet
November 29th, 2011
9:05 pm
It would appear that Ms. Tucker’s refugees have slithered over here this evening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ab5-nZPbYc
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
9:06 pm
quit worrying about Rove……
Watched the BIO Channel over the weekend – they played “Bush’s Brain” which profiled Rove and his dirty political shennigans. Mostly towards the Dems, but he also orchestrated the “McCain has a black baby and a black baby’s mama” campaign. Classic!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
9:06 pm
Is Bill Looman hiring now? Inquiring Chucks want to know.
USMC
November 29th, 2011
9:08 pm
“OH! HAIL YEAH! Surely, we can find a liberal or a Muslim to kill! Cain’t we?”–Soothsayer
Lighten up Frances!
Have any of you democRats ever loved a woman? Seriously.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
9:08 pm
Chuck: sounds to me like you went on the wrong job interview or you paid a lot of money for a poor education. Hey! Chuck! You left me out of your list. Soothsayer! Remember, Soothsayer. Sooth . . . say . . . er! It’s not that difficult.
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
9:10 pm
The Republicans posting here are truly a class(less) act. By the way, where is scout. I can’t recall his posting since, well, let’s see, since those North Georgia militia made the headlines or there abouts.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
9:10 pm
Hey, Chuck and welcome. I’d suggest that you learn to wire the 100 amp service panel (I can) and THEN recite the iambic pentameter sonnets. I’m assuming you do know that a sonnet is not necessarily written in iambic pentameter, but then that would be stating the obvious. Unless, of course , you’re talking about Petrachan sonnets, which are uniformly iambic. BTW, it pays not to forget that the Green wire is always ground.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
9:11 pm
“Well it looks like a certain stalking troll has returned again tonight…. all that whining about Bookman’s blog but he just can’t quit that foray into whining for attention.”
You don’t mean that Good . . . Little . . . Liberal has found a way to slip past the Blogmeister’s watchful eye do you?
Pray, tell. Please don’t challenge me, Good Little Liberal! Please!
barking frog
November 29th, 2011
9:12 pm
Oh man, not the 100 amp service panel thing again…
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
9:12 pm
“Have any of you democRats ever loved a woman? Seriously.”
YES. DAMN, YES!
Look before I leap...
November 29th, 2011
9:12 pm
@Chuck
You know the 12 steps for a recovering conservative, right?
1. Issue a Fatwah for the assassination of Karl Rove
2. Send every other paycheck direct to the federal government to pay down your share of the national debt
3. Join a union
4. Commit to one night a week at the soup kitchen.
5. Donate blood every 3 months
6. Trade in your SUV for a Prius
7. Picket a cruise line
8. March in a Gay Pride Parade
9. Disavow tea in all its forms
10. Spend 2 weeks in an Occupy tent camp
11. Burn your CD collection of Palin’s Alaskan Adventures
12. Send letters of apologies to Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank and Bill Clinton
RW
November 29th, 2011
9:13 pm
Gingrich’s serial adultery! So much for the part of family values, and yes we know Clinton did it too. Newt was caling the kettle black! Serving his wife divorce papers while doing chemo, lobbist for big business, taking money from a non-profit children’s org to line his pockets several years ago.So much for family vaules,
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
9:15 pm
Me thinks someone is going to be challenged to a meeting…..and then see the “man up” demander run away!
Certainly not his first foray into such things.
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
9:15 pm
Hi Chuck. Wanna Play. Oops! I hope that line’s not copyright protected.
USMC
November 29th, 2011
9:15 pm
“USMC @ 8:53 – Perhaps you should stop drinking your dinner. Just saying……
”
No Debbie not tonight…. BUT you best believes I’ll be drinking a beer or two Saturday night when my bulldogs upset the Bayou Bengals!
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
9:16 pm
“I just got out of college. I’m smart. I went to job interview today. I told that manager guy I needed at least $60,000 a year . . . “
Chuck, if you think $60,000 a year is a lot of money for a college graduate, you’re living in a dream world. Heck, “admins” make in the $40s to $50s.
I know who you are, you posted a similar post the other day. You’re just cheap! Get over it, you’re living in the past! And the past ain’t never coming back.
Recon 0311 2533
November 29th, 2011
9:17 pm
Chuck, LOL I think you’ve summed it up. This blog is OWS for those aging old hippies who’ve somehow benefited from the American system they love to hate and can now pretend to be occupiers while staying warm. The rest of us just like to heckle and make them mad.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
9:18 pm
USMC: we may not agree on anything else, but…. GO DAWGS!
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
9:20 pm
Did you war mongering Republicans remember to pepper spray your kids today. You wouldn’t want them to start getting sassy on you.
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
9:20 pm
Chuck – is a fictional character and the main protagonist of this and many other blogs and has since appeared in many adaptations of that story and others. Chuck was created as a wooden puppet, but dreamed of becoming a real boy. Chuck is often a term used to describe an individual who is prone to telling lies, fabricating stories and exaggerating or creating tall tales for various reasons.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
9:20 pm
“November 29th, 2011
9:04 pm
“Big and brave behind the anonymity of the blogging world.”
As far as I’m concerned that is a threat to me.”
And your loss of anonymity wpould be a threat? Why?
Chuck
November 29th, 2011
9:23 pm
Mr B, that service panel thing sounds too dangerous for me.
Mr. Look, I don’t think you are a sensitive person like I am. And other liberals here.
But there are some mean people posting.
Shame on you.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
9:23 pm
CC, I think you did that one too when you “called me out”. And then I proved you were lying…again.
granny godzilla
November 29th, 2011
9:23 pm
new ad
“Run Sarah Run”
and
Trump says he could enter the race in May
Best always to say g’night with a grin.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
9:24 pm
Hey! I just finished my apprenticeship with a electrician (at $10 a hour) and I know how to wire a 100 amp service panel!
But, I hate to tell you, my services are in such demand that I have any number of employers willing to pay me $35 an hour!
I just have to choose which one ain’t a *sshole!
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
9:26 pm
5. Donate blood every 3 months
They gotta stop sucking it out the veins of hard working americans first.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
9:30 pm
Sooth the Electrician!
Jay
November 29th, 2011
9:32 pm
And “Cramcrap” is no more….
Chuck
November 29th, 2011
9:33 pm
“my services are in such demand that I have any number of employers willing to pay me $35 an hour!”
That’s not fair, Mr. Sooth. If you are earning that much money it’s because you’re taking it from some one else. I think you should send at least half that to the government so they can spend it better. My student loan is coming due soon.
getalife
November 29th, 2011
9:34 pm
Chuck,
Sorry to hear you can’t get a job.
You are not alone because cons and their hero w lost millions of jobs.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
9:34 pm
Red card.
DebbieDoRight
November 29th, 2011
9:34 pm
Mr_B and USMC – You guys are delusional. I’m going to say goodnight now and leave you with this: PS: It’s the LSU highlights….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8Gr1Kgl7Jo
Look before I leap...
November 29th, 2011
9:35 pm
@DebbieDoRight
Eliminating the Bush tax cuts on the rich would accomplish that.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
9:35 pm
Chuck: not funny anymore. Goodbye.
Recon 0311 2533
November 29th, 2011
9:36 pm
Okay time to mosey. I think Chuck takes home the trophy this evening for the most creative post, although I’m sure there’s disagreement from far left field.
Schrodinger's cat
November 29th, 2011
9:37 pm
“I just got out of college. I’m smart. I went to job interview today. I told that manager guy I needed at least $60,000 a year . . . “
________________________
really?
sorry…couldn’t resist….gotta go
USMC
November 29th, 2011
9:37 pm
“USMC: we may not agree on anything else, but…. GO DAWGS!”–Mr_B
Amen Mr._B!
We will be agreeing on Saturday Night! That’s good enough for me.
Go Dawgs!
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
9:37 pm
G’night DDD. Sweet “in your dreams”.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 29th, 2011
9:38 pm
“Cramcrap” is no more
And like General Custer at the Little Big Horn…. “I shall return to fight again”
getalife
November 29th, 2011
9:38 pm
I do miss trump being proud of himself.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
9:41 pm
I do miss trump being proud of himself.
Just because he is no longer a candidate, that doesn’t mean a certain particularly endearing quality of his has disappeared.
bman
November 29th, 2011
9:45 pm
anyone have any thoughts as to who Newt or Romney would choose as their V.P.?
Matti's gut reaction
November 29th, 2011
9:47 pm
Will the GOP pull a 1964? What they really need to PULL instead is MY FINGER!
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
9:47 pm
Friends, I think what we are seeing more and more is the absolute, pathetic hopelessness of the Right. Their grandiose dreams of 2012 are washing away like sand castles at high tide.
The Republican candidate selection process has devolved into a book contract opportunity. Serious candidates are as scarce as hen’s teeth.
So, who do we have who isn’t a laughinstock? Newt Loops? “I was for it before I was against it” Willard? Sadly, that’s all there is. And both of these are borderline.
You know what, Righties, it’s not our fault. It’s your fault. It’s the Tea Party’s fault. It’s W’s fault. It’s your greed’s fault. It’s your corruption’s fault. You own it.
You have been reduced to coming onto this blog and spewing nonsense and insults.
It’s plumb pathetic — and you know it!
Chuck
November 29th, 2011
9:53 pm
“I’m assuming you do know that a sonnet is not necessarily written in iambic pentameter, but then that would be stating the obvious.”
Well duh! Do you think I slept through class??? Well, I was kinda high sometimes…
But I love sonnet 23. The couplet just sings to me!
Obama 2012!
vast right wing conspiracy
November 29th, 2011
10:00 pm
Jay, remember, the Republicans can run a road dog and have a more qualified candidate than the Manchurian Candidate. The road dog would be vetted, also, compared to the Dear Leader. At some point, the Tea Party will have to take over this process for the Republicans, but running against 16% unemployment (U6), 55 million on food stamps, ad infinitum, will not be hard to do.
Matti's gut reaction
November 29th, 2011
10:03 pm
The road dog would be vetted, also, compared to the Dear Leader.
GOP “vetted” = You don’t need to know anything, because when you totally blank out on a simple question like, “What do you read?” we will launch a no-holds-barred, full-on attack on the leftist media and their OH-so-unfair “gotcha” questions!
St Simons - we're on Island time
November 29th, 2011
10:05 pm
Cain is dropping out.
The snake-handling banjo base won’t vote for Mittens or Huntsman.
Michelle is not safe around forks, or spoons, much less the Button.
We are on the verge of getting religion praying so hard for Newt.
Checkmate. 4 more years. Snoop Dawg concert on the WH lawn.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
10:08 pm
Checkmate. 4 more years. Snoop Dawg concert on the WH lawn.
Even from up here in this small hamlet in the N.C. Mtns., I can hear the sound of heads exploding in the ATL.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
10:08 pm
Kinda high doesn’t necessarily hurt, but sonnet 116 is better. Not to mention Keats.
Mr_B
November 29th, 2011
10:14 pm
Kam: What N.C. hamlet exactly?
St.Simons: Watch it, mon. Nobody said anythink negative abot pans.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
10:16 pm
Mr_B
Not gonna get specific, but about 2800 ft above sea level
BADA BING
November 29th, 2011
10:18 pm
The woman with the 13 year affair with Cain was just on the news. She said she would never vote for him. Sad, she must have self esteem issues. In his bed for 13 years off and on, and she doesn’t think much of him. Self hatred?
Matti's gut reaction
November 29th, 2011
10:21 pm
Bada Bing,
You will be reincarnated as a woman. Soon. Then all your questions will be answered, plus a few you never wanted to know. Have fun with that!
BADA BING
November 29th, 2011
10:23 pm
Matti would you sleep with a man that you didn’t respect for 13 years?
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
10:23 pm
She said she would never vote for him.
Plenty of women I would have extended sex with but wouldn’t vote for.
Self hatred doesn’t enter into it.
stands for decibels
November 29th, 2011
10:23 pm
This great country needs a true conservative as president in 2012 or our exceptionalism is doomed
This actually gets funnier with repeated exposure.
BADA BING
November 29th, 2011
10:24 pm
13 years is not a ‘Whoops,I made a mistake drinking too much I will never do that again” type of thing. 13 years!
BADA BING
November 29th, 2011
10:25 pm
kam, did you not see the ? mark. I asked, was it self hatred. You are blinded by the obvious.
Matti's gut reaction
November 29th, 2011
10:26 pm
Bada Bing,
Dang, dude! How many times do I have to tell you? NO, I will not sleep with you! Back off before I pepper spray you but good!
BADA BING
November 29th, 2011
10:28 pm
I love the smell of pepper spray in the morning. It smells like, like, like victory!
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:29 pm
Cain just got a thang for white guls!
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
10:31 pm
You are blinded by the obvious.
And you are vilifying only one party in what is clearly a two person thingie. And when you posted this, “Matti would you sleep with a man that you didn’t respect for 13 years?” when your first post never mentioned anything at all about respect — that’s what’s known as moving the goal posts.
Seems like you are the one with quite a few blind-spots.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:32 pm
I’m sorry, I couldn’t help myself!
Jm
November 29th, 2011
10:35 pm
Self loathing is bad for your health
Fortunately I do not suffer from it
BADA BING
November 29th, 2011
10:36 pm
I saw the woman kam. I think Cain was blind. I wish I had not seen her.
Don't Forget
November 29th, 2011
10:37 pm
Bada, Cain dumped her right before his campaign started. If he had dumped his wife and married him I’m sure she would have supported him, just like Newt’s wife did.
Jm
November 29th, 2011
10:38 pm
Moving the goalposts.
Sporty kam’s tired refrain.
Along with tick, sport, there’s your sign, and a half dozen others
Boring kam
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:38 pm
Kam: one of my favorite places up there is Lake Lure. Haven’t been in a long time, but I remember it fondly.
Matti's gut reaction
November 29th, 2011
10:38 pm
Bada Bing,
When you are a woman in your next life, try to remember it was just such comments that got you sentenced to at least one lifetime as an unfortunate looking female. Bless your heart.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:40 pm
Well, it looks like Jm is fresh from his night and looking for a fight! Jm: I’ve been waiting for you!
Jm
November 29th, 2011
10:40 pm
Fondly.
No sexual harassment on the blog please.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
10:40 pm
I hear you knockin’ Jm, but you can’t come in.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:42 pm
Jm: do you have anything substantive to say tonight or just the same old BS?
Jm
November 29th, 2011
10:43 pm
Sooth
I do not believe JFK was killed by the CIA, that bush blew up the WTC, or that aliens live in Roswell. New Mexico.
What new sci fi movies have you been studying?
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:46 pm
“Self loathing is bad for your health
Fortunately I do not suffer from it”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“Moving the goalposts.
Sporty kam’s tired refrain.
Along with tick, sport, there’s your sign, and a half dozen others
Boring kam”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
“Fondly.
No sexual harassment on the blog please.
Jm: everything you post on this blog is sheer nonsense. What does any of this mean?
Tommy Maddox
November 29th, 2011
10:46 pm
Some mighty tough talk going on tonight – “Rudolph” reminded me to check out the blog:
“Why am I such a misfit? I am not just a knit-wit! You can’t fire me I QUIT! I just don’t fit in.”
Y’all continue…
Jm
November 29th, 2011
10:47 pm
Sooth
I read Elvis was reincarnated as Britney Spears. What kind of sick Buddha would do such a thing?
Cain appears to be toast. Burnt toast.
Kamchak
November 29th, 2011
10:47 pm
Sooth
I have yet to visit Lake Lure, but it is just around the corner and over a hill or two.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:48 pm
“I do not believe JFK was killed by the CIA, that bush blew up the WTC, or that aliens live in Roswell. New Mexico.”
Good for you. Now that you’ve gotten that out of your system, anything of any real import to say? Or just the same old BS?
BADA BING
November 29th, 2011
10:48 pm
matti….karma is a bitch. But I don’t believe in it. I don;t live my life in fear that something bad will happen to me if I am not a good person. I am just a good person for no reason, try it.
bman
November 29th, 2011
10:48 pm
there is someone who posts here that is really into the WTC thing. It was the Gov’t etc.. .. I can’t remember who it is
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:49 pm
Jm: as per usual, you don’t really have anything to say.
Geo
November 29th, 2011
10:51 pm
Sooth – go back into your tent. It is cold out.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:52 pm
“there is someone who posts here that is really into the WTC thing. It was the Gov’t etc.. .. I can’t remember who it is”
I’m glad you brought that up bman. Unfortunately, I’m not alone. Over 1,500 architects and engineers agree with me.
Geo
November 29th, 2011
10:53 pm
Oh and zombies are reading my mail.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:53 pm
Geo! A new player! Come on in, we’re just getting started good!
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
10:55 pm
Jm: I’m waiting. Ol’ Dave R. was the only one who would really stick it out to the wee hours. How about you?
bman
November 29th, 2011
10:55 pm
wow .. .. i really know how to step in it. Sorry sooth
Jm
November 29th, 2011
10:59 pm
Geo
U too? They’re such a pain
I find the zombies much like liberal beliefs. They never die no matter how many times you prove them wrong.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
11:02 pm
Jm & Geo: you, like most Americans, have to be the most gullible people on Earth to think that 2 110-story skyscrapers can disintegrate because of being struck by two what amounts to “flying eggshells.”
That you are ignorant is self-evident.
I’m ready, let’s go!
BADA BING
November 29th, 2011
11:05 pm
AJC headline ” Police shoot woman stabbing her child”. And I can’t think of a better reason to shoot her.
bman
November 29th, 2011
11:06 pm
Sooth .. .. I don’t want to get too deep into this, but I just wanted to ask : Who do you think was responsible for the WTC attacks? Specifically, who?
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
11:06 pm
Heck, even my 80+ year old Father told me he thought “those buildings were exploded.”
And, believe me, he is as far Right as they get. But at least he was honest.
Martin the Calvinist
November 29th, 2011
11:10 pm
Why would true conservatives want to put the white Obama in office in 2012? Romney would govern pretty close to who we have in office now.
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
11:14 pm
“Sooth .. .. I don’t want to get too deep into this, but I just wanted to ask : Who do you think was responsible for the WTC attacks? Specifically, who?”
bman: Larry Silverman who had recently bought the WTC towers and WTC 7 made over $3.5 billion in insurance.
The neo-cons Wolfowitz, Kristol, etc. needed a “new Pearl Harbor” to launch the wars of hegemony we have been mired in for over 10 years now.
Is that good enough?
It is not physically possible for a building to collapse as a result of being struck by an airplane. In fact, no building before or since has ever collapsed because of fire.
All of the evidence suggests that both WTC towers and Building 7 were demolished with controlled explosions.
If you are serious and sincere about learning more, I invite you to watch this 2 hour video about 9/11. I want to warn you in advance, you will never think about 9/11 the same way again.
Jm
November 29th, 2011
11:17 pm
Martin
Um no
Romney is light years different than Obama
bman
November 29th, 2011
11:19 pm
Sooth .. .. I just think .. .. Herman Cain can’t get a little booty without being busted. I have doubts that something this large which would have had to involve many people could be kept a secret. However, I will watch the video. Probably not 2 hours tonight, but I will take in 30 minutes or so..
Soothsayer
November 29th, 2011
11:21 pm
Thanks, bman. I’m outta here. You may find you watch the entire thing even though you didn’t mean to. Goodnight.
Political Mongrel
November 29th, 2011
11:30 pm
It used to be that the GOP had a fair choice of candidates, but the Democrats had bupkis. Now the GOP has a bunch of loonies and losers, and the Democrats still have zip. There’s no viable third party candidates no matter what the third parties try to tell you. So the next election is going to be between a Democratic mediocrity and a GOP near-sociopath and terminal panderer. Gee, ain’t politics great?
bman
November 29th, 2011
11:33 pm
“Vita Lee, 103, has shared her northwest Atlanta home with her 83-year-old daughter for 53 years. The legal fight over eviction started in 2009 and stems from a second mortgage taken out years ago by another family member”
http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/deputies-movers-dont-evict-1245741.html
If it was “her” home, how was a family member able to take out a 2nd mortgage ? I’m thinking someone is doing some crappy reporting. If not, please give me the scoop how I take out a 2nd mortgage on my parents home ….just for kicks
1964
November 30th, 2011
12:20 am
JFK’s men always feared Nelson Rockefeller as he was a moderate Republican. Once JFK was assassinated, he was lionized, when he had been previously demonized by many. Unlikely anyone the Republicans ran in ‘64 would have won. Goldwater at least told the straight, hard truth. LBJ was a manic depressive liar who tried to bully anyone who opposed him. I’ll take the truth, thank you. But, unfortunately, liars often win in politics. Says a lot about them as a class (and citizens as the idiot masses who elect them)
Matt
November 30th, 2011
12:32 am
Every once in a while, Jay, I read the comments to your columns. I fervently hope that you’re writing a book about them. I’ll buy it, if you’ll autograph it!
lynnie gal
November 30th, 2011
1:27 am
The GOP brand is damaged—look at their candidates. What a freak show. They’ve got nothing. People who think they’re viable are brain damaged.
Pete
November 30th, 2011
1:58 am
Regarding corporations and other “job creators:” jobs are created only if there is increasing demand for a product or service. If you give an employer a tax break, he will invest the extra money wherever he can get the best return – including in other countries! Any employer who says he is not hiring because regulations are too severe or healthcare is too expensive is simply making an excuse for his lackluster product or service. No one wants it, so he need not staff up to provide more of it. Most folks are looking for a simple solution to a complex problem of global economics. Unfortunately, this dream has proven elusive, and to place all of the blame on president Obama, well, that is the ultimate in simplistic thinking.
Joel Edge
November 30th, 2011
5:36 am
” based on emotional resonance”
It isn’t emotional. We’re tiring of voting for one person and getting another. You liberals should know that feeling , Jay.
Mike C.
November 30th, 2011
5:42 am
Or it could be a Reagan moment.
Remember, when Republicans actually nominate a real Republican, they win and when they nominate a RHINO, they loose.
Think 1980, 1984 (Reagan), 1988 (Bush number 1 lost because he raised taxes in ‘92), 2000, 2004 (Bush 2)
Republicans lost when they nominate RHINO”s . Think 1976 (Ford), 1992 (Bush) 1996 (Dole) 1988 (McCain)
Nominate a real conservative, and the real conservatives will come out and vote….
Newt, like any politician, is subject to the forces that be in politics. But he is a real conservative, has matured and admitted mistakes made (i.e. speaking with Pelosi about Cap and Trade on TV). Romney changes sides more times than flipping a pancake.
IF Newt needs nudging to the center by the base of conservatives, that will be a lot easier to do than trying to push Romeny to the center since he is a die hard RHINO.
If Romeny gets the nomination (as Democrats and the media are wanting) then conservatives will stay home and Obama will win..
USinUK
November 30th, 2011
6:09 am
RHINO
um.
yeah.
and what does the H stand for, exactly??? Republican Holier-than-thou In Name Only???
“If Romeny gets the nomination (as Democrats and the media are wanting) then conservatives will stay home and Obama will win..”
and what do you think will happen if Newt gets the nomination???
bobfromacworth
November 30th, 2011
6:39 am
Poor delusional Jay… He must be forgetting that the electorate now has more ways to find out their information than back in the Goldwater days. We won’t see the A-Bomb commercials (that poor little girl with the flower) constantly like back in that day, when only 3 networks existed and the fix was in for LBJ. Review your history better Jay.
Granny Godzilla
November 30th, 2011
6:57 am
bobfromacworth
nope, we all know the electorate has more readily available info.
and that sir, is why the GOP will fail.
the info, the data, the reality is not on the side of the GOP.
OH AND
Good Morning Campers!
USinUK
November 30th, 2011
6:58 am
“We won’t see the A-Bomb commercials (that poor little girl with the flower) constantly like back in that day,”
constantly???
the ad was aired ONCE.
and you seem to forget that, while there may have only been 3 networks, there were NUMEROUS independently-owned newspapers and local stations during the days of LBJ and Goldwater – they weren’t rolled up into Murdoch/Clear Channel/etc corporate media conglomerates like we have now
There definitely IS someone who needs to learn their history a little better in this situation … it’s just not who you think it is.
USinUK
November 30th, 2011
6:59 am
Hi GG (and greetings from across the pond to the Zillettes and the Zillini!!)
jezel
November 30th, 2011
7:02 am
JamVet….what you said could not be more true. No one is perfect. But pretending to be something that you are not…will not fly.
Granny Godzilla
November 30th, 2011
7:04 am
USinUK
Thanks
The walking Baby G said “juice” and the family danced with delight.
USinUK
November 30th, 2011
7:06 am
GG – yay! Zillini is mobile and talking – exciting (and funny) times for everyone
bobfromacworth
November 30th, 2011
7:17 am
GG and usinuk, drinking the dems Kool-Aid again, so sad.
USinUK
November 30th, 2011
7:18 am
Herman Cain … the gift that keeps giving …
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/29/az_state_senator_herman_cain_has_not_sexually_harassed_me_even_though_i_am_attractive/singleton/
“Says she has known him for 12 years and he’s “never been anything but a gentlemen – and I am not an unattractive woman.””
yay!!!
Oversimplify
November 30th, 2011
7:18 am
Conservatives are so intoxicated on the purity of their beliefs that they have deluded themselves into thinking that their’s is the only way and America deserves their rule by fiat.
Hence, a group of crappy candidates talking the talk is sufficient for their purposes. The danger of belonging to the FOX community is the exclusion of the other side of the coin.
USinUK
November 30th, 2011
7:18 am
“drinking the dems Kool-Aid again”
bob – you’re going to have to do a little better than that to refute facts.
Granny Godzilla
November 30th, 2011
7:25 am
bobfromacworth
dems kool-aid? really? is that the best you can do in the way of a snappy retort?
if that is your best, and you are representative of the GOP…
2012 will be a cakewalk for the Democrats.
(besides it’s early morning and there is no caffiene in kool-aid)
USinUK
November 30th, 2011
7:27 am
“(besides it’s early morning and there is no caffiene in kool-aid)”
just one of the many areas where Jim Jones went wrong … he should have offered lattes …
bobfromacworth
November 30th, 2011
7:53 am
wow, musta hit a nerve…
Joe Hussein Mama
November 30th, 2011
8:03 am
F. Sinkiewicz — “our exceptionalism is doomed”
Good. Screw exceptionalism in all its forms.
Screw American exceptionalism.
Screw Christian exceptionalism.
Screw white exceptionalism.
Screw upper-class exceptionalism.
Screw corporate exceptionalism.
Screw all forms of exceptionalism anywhere, as well as all those who believe in any varieties of it whatsoever.
F. Sinkwich
November 30th, 2011
8:28 am
Enter your comments here
F. Sinkwich
November 30th, 2011
8:30 am
Joe must be from Kenya.
Jim
November 30th, 2011
8:32 am
“…especially if you own a business!”
I was discussing politics, in general, recently and this same statement was thrown out. Since it wasn’t discussed, it was, I suppose, agreed to be “fact”. I thought about it and asked the person who said it, later, what he meant. I think any business owner would have a problem with government in general not specifically with anything President Obama has, or hasn’t done. We seem to live in an age where its common to just “throw out” a statement without any backing. So, in the future, Jack, please say something like, “If you’re smart, you wouldn’t vote for Obama because he has …., or has not …..” So that those of us who disagree will have something to disagree with other than your statement is stupid!
kawasaki kid
November 30th, 2011
8:47 am
This blog is obviously just another playground for all you would-be cyber-bullies to post childish back-and-forth banter. Boring!!! Jay is a thoughtful writer whose opinions are based on facts, not dogma, and thus was hoping for a more thoughtful, intelligent group. The Kawasaki Kid is out of here for good. Bye, folks. Got better things to waste my time on.
Keep up the good work, Jay! I won’t give up on you until I catch you trying to slide on over on me. So far, so good.
Joe Hussein Mama
November 30th, 2011
8:54 am
F.Sinkiewicz — “Joe must be from Kenya.”
I didn’t think you had anything worthwhile to contribute.
ken
November 30th, 2011
8:54 am
BHO approval below Carters. Ha HA !! Carter administration brought us record high interest rates, BHO gives us record low house values. ,
Richard
November 30th, 2011
9:17 am
If this poll had shown that Republicans preferred a candidate that could beat Obama, rather than just sharing their views, you libs would be crying foul that Republicans are racist and that they are so stupid they care more about winning that about policy. Personally, I’m glad that they care more about issues than getting rid of Obama.
Robert
November 30th, 2011
9:38 am
“the GOP is at least open to another “Goldwater moment,” in which it selects a champion based on emotional resonance with the base rather than his chances of success come November. ”
If history is repeated and the GOP has another “Goldwater moment” they will select a known segregationist just like Barry Goldwater, Jesse Helms, Strom Thurman, etc., who will rally the South and spew the same rhetoric (hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality) from the 1950-60’s used by the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” (klansmen, skinheads, birthers, militia’s, etc.).
GT/MIT
November 30th, 2011
9:58 am
Jay
November 29th, 2011
5:08 pm
Truthbe:
“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
bookman, does this piece of sage advice apply to the
ajc’s opinion writers as well ?
What
November 30th, 2011
10:11 am
Looks like several of the millions of Cain’s “Intelligent Thinkers” are chiming in this morning.
Obama is over
November 30th, 2011
10:25 am
Obama is in a dead heat with a generic GOP candidate. Even though he has a historically low status in various opinion polls, he may still squeze out a win. However, in order to do so, he is going to have to wage the nastiest, most divisive, campaign in American history. Patrick Caddell and Douglas Schoen,two Democratic pollsters who understand numbers better than anyone on this blog, pointed out in an op-ed piece in the WSJ that the type of campaign necessary for the president’s political survival would make it virtually impossible for him to effectively govern during a campaign and throughout a second term.Bush used the scorched earth strategy in 2004 and look where it got him. Obama cannot run on his track record in office. His approval ratings reflect voters who know that they are no better off than they were 4 years ago. Thus, he has to constantly blame Bush, Congress, the Tea Party, the Grinch, and anyone else he can think of to avoid accepting responsibility. Democrats tend to focus on the far right elements of the GOP because they are easy targets. Romney can beat Obama because he has a better grasp of the macro systematic threats to the global economy. Obama tends to concentrate on generic government spending programs that target specific voter constituencies while ignoring the vast majority of America. He wants us to let him spend taxpayer money today and worry about how to pay for it by sitting down and maybe thinking about talking about setting up a committee- as long as it is after 2012. Short term partisan thinking is not the answer to America’s problems. Lack of ability to put together bipartisan coalitions on Capital Hill is viewed as weakness in the Presidency, not Congress. If Obama can’t get break the gridlock in Washington because of his hard core partisan platform, then we need to elect someone who can.
GT/MIT
November 30th, 2011
10:44 am
What
November 30th, 2011
10:11 am
“Looks like several of the millions of Cain’s “Intelligent Thinkers” are chiming in this morning”
Several million ?,I’d like you to help count my money. As a point
of information, some of you thinkers “chiming in”, really don’t seem
all that intelligent.
GT/MIT
November 30th, 2011
11:29 am
Robert
November 30th, 2011
9:38 am
“If history is repeated and the GOP has another “Goldwater moment” they will select a known segregationist just like Barry Goldwater, Jesse Helms, Strom Thurman, etc., who will rally the South and spew the same rhetoric (hatred, fear and rage/mob mentality) from the 1950-60’s used by the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” (klansmen, skinheads, birthers, militia’s, etc.).”
My pea headed friend, if I may be so bold as to suggest that before you try
to cite historical events, you might attempt to assimilate one or two actual
fact about those events.
Adam
November 30th, 2011
11:36 am
I’m sorry I missed “Chuck”’s pedantic diatribe earlier.
Yeah, going into an interview for your first job and requesting a salary like that and then insisting your requirements are simply rote memorization of words is JUST WHAT ALL OF US DO. Which is why I have a decent job and salary, because I went in with an attitude JUST LIKE THAT.
But “Chuck” knows, because it’s obvious, that no one will hire you if you act that way. I am curious what he thinks qualifications are for most jobs. Apparently he thinks everyone should expect to work for far less than $60,000, not ever take out student loans at all, and that a college education is useless (since apparently it only teaches you about sonnets).
I’m going to revert to my Barney Frank stance and ask “on what planet do you spend most of your time?”
GT/MIT
November 30th, 2011
12:50 pm
Adam
November 30th, 2011
11:36 am
“I’m going to revert to my Barney Frank stance and ask “on what planet do you spend most of your time?”
More importantly, on what planet were you when you met barney?
That Black guy
November 30th, 2011
1:23 pm
TaxPayer
November 29th, 2011
4:55 pm
I see that Congress’s approval rating has jumped. It’s up to 12.3 percent. Ouch. Perhaps Boehner should think about actually doing something. – Because we all know that CONGRESS is COMPLETELY repub and only the House of reps.
or more bigger tax cuts for the Koch crooks. – “Koch” -They put that shyt on EVERYTHING right stands?
That Black guy
November 30th, 2011
1:35 pm
Doggone/GA
November 29th, 2011
5:18 pm
Doggone, do you believe Mcconnell speaks for EVERY repub in the country?
Adam
November 30th, 2011
2:15 pm
That Black guy : What political goal for a Republican would you elevate over “Making him a one term President”?
That Black guy
November 30th, 2011
3:42 pm
I don’t know, you would have to ask a repub. But to say 1 mcconnell represents the views of ALL repubs is kind of…well…silly.
Does Maxine Waters represent the views of ALL dems?
That Black guy
November 30th, 2011
3:46 pm
Adam
November 30th, 2011
2:15 pm
That Black guy : What political goal for a Republican would you elevate over “Making him a one term President”?
Besides, I thought the goal of repubs was to steal from the poor to give to the rich.
No, I thought it was to install a theocracy.
No, I thought it was to…
Gee, I guess it’s kinda hard to fit ALL of a group into one box.
Adam
November 30th, 2011
4:09 pm
That Black guy: From what I can tell, those other “goals” you brought up are nothing more than issues they themselves bring up as a way to bolster their overall goal of beating Obama. From what I can tell, MOST Republicans in office share this as their top goal. But we really only have their word, if they even speak on the subject, that is not the case.