Why oh why won’t government fix it for me?

From Jon Shirek at Channel 11 News:

WACO, Ga. — A west Georgia business owner is stirring up controversy with signs he posted on his company’s trucks, for all to see as the trucks roll up and down roads, highways and interstates:

“New Company Policy: We are not hiring until Obama is gone.”

“Can’t afford it,” explained the employer, Bill Looman, Tuesday evening. “I’ve got people that I want to hire now, but I just can’t afford it. And I don’t foresee that I’ll be able to afford it unless some things change in D.C.”

Looman’s company is U.S. Cranes, LLC. He said he put up the signs, and first posted pictures of the signs on his personal Facebook page, six months ago, and he said he received mostly positive reaction from people, “about 20-to-one positive.”

… Looman made it clear, talking with 11Alive’s Jon Shirek, that he is not refusing to hire to make some political point; it’s that he doesn’t believe he can hire anyone, because of the economy. And he blames the Obama administration.

“The way the economy’s running, and the way my business has been hampered by the economy, and the policies of the people in power, I felt that it was necessary to voice my opinion, and predict that I wouldn’t be able to do any hiring,” he said.

I don’t doubt that Looman’s company in particular and the crane industry in general are going through hard times. A few years ago, you saw cranes throughout the metro Atlanta skyline. Today, with commercial real estate construction down significantly, they’re a fairly rare sight. Like a lot of people in that industry, he probably has a significant investment in equipment that just isn’t being used.

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Jobs in the construction industry, source: Bureau of Labor Statistics

But the truth is, the industry was benefiting a few years ago from an artificial construction boom that eventually went bust, as it inevitably must. Take a look at construction industry figures, courtesy of the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Employment in that industry peaked at 7.7 million in January 2007 and has since fallen to 5.5 million, a decline of more than 28 percent.

In that sense, you have to sympathize with Bill Looman. He’s struggling to keep his company alive and his employees paid. However, I don’t understand his apparent belief that government in general, and President Obama in particular, are supposed to come along and fix this for him. He is reciting the narrative that he has been taught, without regard to its accuracy.

In an interview with ABC News, Looman said that “overregulation and the cost of complying with federal mandates has caused many of his customers to shut their doors.”

“The buck stops [at Obama],” he said. “He is the leader of this nation and he needs to assume that postion and understand it is his fault, ultimately.”

However, as the chart above demonstrates, construction employment had already been falling for two years and was in the midst of a full-fledged freefall by the time Obama took office. No matter how hard he wishes to believe it, that collapse had nothing to do with overregulation or federal mandates imposed by the current administration.

In fact, the collapse in construction employment would have been more severe without the stimulus bill that Obama championed and that Republicans continue to condemn.

Looman strikes me as a man who takes pride in his independence. But that self-image is contradicted by his insistence that if his business isn’t doing well, it’s somebody else’s fault and somebody else’s responsibility to fix it for him. He wants a small government that keeps its nose out of his business, yet he also wants that government to fix things for him and make things like they used to be, and he complains bitterly when it doesn’t.

– Jay Bookman

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Brosephus

November 26th, 2011
10:15 am

But that self-image is contradicted by his insistence that if his business isn’t doing well, it’s somebody else’s fault and somebody else’s responsibility to fix it for him. He wants a small government that keeps its nose out of his business, yet he also wants that government to fix things for him and make things like they used to be, and he complains bitterly when it doesn’t.

Welcome to the New United States of America, where we privatize the profits and socialize the risk and/or blame.

Midori

November 26th, 2011
10:19 am

Tommy Maddox

November 26th, 2011
10:21 am

“I don’t understand his apparent belief that government in general, and President Obama in particular, are supposed to come along and fix this for him.”

Isn’t this the basis of liberal thinking behind things such as Stimulus? This is what we were repeatedly told by our friends in the media.

Mark Lee

November 26th, 2011
10:24 am

You have thoughtfully dismissed a one mans effort to make a living. You make excuses for the train wreak the economy is going though.

You should be ashamed of yourself, but I am sure your arrogant muck raking style prevents you from seeing the true picture.

The good news is the capitalism always prevails and blogging, video and truth telling will prevail and you in the media will be out of work, just like everyone else.

The age old wisdom of Reagan will survive.

When my neighbor is out of work is a rescission, when I am out of work its a depression, when Obama is out of work its a recovery.

Mountain man

November 26th, 2011
10:25 am

I am not trying to make a political point, but it is all Obama’s fault”

Gator Joe

November 26th, 2011
10:28 am

Jay:
Looman is right in line with the Right Wing mentality, especially here in the South. Let me guess, he’s white, he’s a bigot and narrow-minded, he votes Republican, he watches Fox (and believes everything he hears and sees there), he blames the President for everything bad, he believes everything was wonderful when Bush and Cheney were in office, and….he believes everything will once again be wonderful when a Republican is in the White House.

Brosephus

November 26th, 2011
10:29 am

Don’t forget that Melissa Brookstone posted an idea for the very same type of boycott on a Tea Party based website back in October.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/19/tea-party-melissa-brookstone-occupy-wall-street_n_1020710.html

Brookstone concludes by saying she will demonstrate her opposition to this supposed operation by closing her business to new employees:

I, an American small business owner, part of the class that produces the vast majority of real, wealth producing jobs in this country, hereby resolve that I will not hire a single person until this war against business and my country is stopped.

The website, Tea Party Nation, is now a subscriber only site, so you can’t access the post unless you’re a member. When it was first posted, anybody could read it as I read it myself.

Mick

November 26th, 2011
10:29 am

That man cannot see the forest for the tree’s. He’s probably against obama’s job package for infrastructure even though cranes will be needed. One thing is for sure, because he is such a dumb head ding a ling, I would be doing business with his competitors…

Jay

November 26th, 2011
10:32 am

MIdori, that’s interesting. I sympathize with Mr. Looman to the degree that he wasn’t prepared for public reaction to his message.

On the other hand, I was unaware that his reaction may have gone as far as being anti-Muslim and militia-sympathizing.

Ross Perot

November 26th, 2011
10:33 am

I don’t know of anybody that is expanding their business in construction right now, nor expect to in the immediate future. I’m guessing like many others during the bubble, they expanded to a lavish lifestyle only to have it burst. The people that still have their houses wont be purchasing up anytime soon due to loss of equity. Those that have lost their houses wont be buying anytime soon due to bad credit. There is a glut of houses sitting, so why would a developer start a new project? This guy can’t blame Obama for this mess. Somebody call him a Wahhhhmbulance!

Common Sense

November 26th, 2011
10:33 am

“But that self-image is contradicted by his insistence that if his business isn’t doing well, it’s somebody else’s fault and somebody else’s responsibility to fix it for him.”

So you really are unable to conceive a situation where government is a hindrance to the business environment?

Critical thinking is not your specialty is it?

He didn’t ask for government to fix anything but the problems they generated. Seems like a pretty fair request.

You are intellectually halted at that point because in your eyes government only makes things better. They do not cause any problems or financial burdens.

Curtis Rivers

November 26th, 2011
10:35 am

Looman is a perfect example of those who simply accept what those they deem to be the “truth tellers” of our society feed them…in this case that Obama is their problem. Under that premise, if voters will elect Republicans and Tea Party candidates, they will make it all right, when the truth is actually that the policies advocated by those Republaicans and Tea Partiers will lead the economy deeper into failure, and Looman will then watch his business truly fail. While all the parties in Washington are culpable, a reasoned, methodical approach can lead us out of our mess. Republicans and the Tea Party will only deepen our problem.

Midori

November 26th, 2011
10:35 am

didn’t surprise me, Jay.

Ross Perot

November 26th, 2011
10:44 am

I wouldn’t bash the Tea Party on this. If you believe that the Dems who want to raise trillions in new taxes would spend it responsibly or consider a balanced budget with the new funding, keep drinking the kool aid. Factor in the deficits that Obamacare will run combined not knowing what the cost for healthcare to those who pay in to cover the payments for the uninsured and future illegals that will be granfathered in, will result in the last of the middle class getting bent over further.

Mary Elizabeth

November 26th, 2011
10:45 am

Did not surprise me either, but then I grew up in the South.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 26th, 2011
10:46 am

I happended to see the Bill Looman facebook page a few days ago from a link posted by a friend. I read a few buffoon posts and then I dropped it, not realizing he was going to be some wingnut hero. But if you want to see some of his absurdity, seems he has someone who was willing to take him on.

http://www.billlooman.com

Thomas

November 26th, 2011
10:48 am

Really ridiculous owning a business right now. The IRS and ALL the states are firing off notices from payroll, sales, excise, on a daily basis. If you are doing business in any state the states are sending 10 pages questionairres at the same time they are making extrapolated assessments and demanding payments thereof. Many folks are coddled inside a larger institutions where such matters are handled by robust internal accounting departements. Very, very hard to run a small business currently.

larry

November 26th, 2011
10:56 am

government overregulation, taxes too high, Obama, Obama, ummmm…………..Its the governments fault ………

Now, if i had one of them there gubermint contracts………….. Id be sittin’ pretty.

And it would be still Obama’s fault.

Midori

November 26th, 2011
10:57 am

dang!! I just stubbed my toe!!!

D*MN YOU OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Soothsayer

November 26th, 2011
10:58 am

Just another garden-variety, foaming-at-the-mouth, Right-wing nutcase looking for someone to blame. Or as I hear from most of the people around here — “B*ckwheat.”

TaxPayer

November 26th, 2011
11:01 am

I found a listing for a U.S. Crane here and it was created on 4/28/2006. It looks like they may have started up their business at the peak employment, right before the bubble burst. Bummer. Too bad this guy wants to blame the wrong people for his problems. I wonder if he knows those Georgia Congressmen, Graves and that other fella. They should get together and have a beer and talk about old times.

josef

November 26th, 2011
11:12 am

midori

I went to the link. He lost me at “pick-em-up truck.” Just another duk-sha-nee airing his own white sheets. What should have been legitimate commentary was rendered ridiculous with drive-by sniping. Bad journalism, bad attitude, bad manners.

ME
“Did not surprise me either, but then I grew up in the South.”

I see you’ve given up being nice, eh? I grew up in the South, too. I grew up in the United States. I grew up a homo sapiens. It doesn’t surprise me on any count.

I guess you’ve got your own ticket punched for the duk-sha-nee train.

Soothsayer

November 26th, 2011
11:14 am

To many “mature democrats”, even if their countries are no longer democracies and are run by an unelected caretaker government, the unhindered acces to all and any raw materials, oil and bioresources needed to maintain their consumer habit is treated by government friendly media as a birthright. If threatened, this birthright must be protected by their armed forces to ensure and secure the supply.

As resources diminish and deplete, despite the incantations and self-delusion that “better tech and human inge[n]uity” will somehow restore supplies of cheap throwaway resources to previous levels, usually through using more energy, our civilization will have to expand its war action worldwide, no longer hidden by figleaf trimmings of “peacekeeping action” or War on Terror. But bankrupt states are unsuited to waging long term, even permanent wars, to satisfy their resource greed.

More important than the effective bankruptcy and economic collapse of debt-strangled “mature democracies”, their oil greed and oil waste will fatally place them in conflict with societies and countries fully able to hit them back so hard they will more than simply regret their arrogance. More precisely, the emerging industrial giant economies of China and India – pursuing a ‘classic’ and intensely industrial development strategy – can only replace and substitute, or supposedly “play locomotive” to the flaccid and failing postindustrial post-democracies, if China and India move up to current typical rates of oil and resource consumption in these late-stage liberal capitalist societies.

Not to change the subject or anything, but how about a little light reading on a Saturday. You know, reading. Not for the squeamish.

josef

November 26th, 2011
11:16 am

Sooth

“Just another garden-variety, foaming-at-the-mouth, Right-wing nutcase looking for someone to blame”

Precisely. Race, creed, color, lieu de naissance secondary if applicable at all.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
11:20 am

Another embarrassment from Georgia.

Speaking of embarrassment, the dawgs will get embarrassed in Atlanta.

Kamchak

November 26th, 2011
11:22 am

Cue the Barney Frank, Fannie/Freddie, CRA comments in 3…2…1….

josef

November 26th, 2011
11:25 am

K’chak

Can we get a Soros ilk in there while we’re at it? :-)

barking frog

November 26th, 2011
11:26 am

want to be famous? make up some silly crap that irritates
either democrats or republicans, post it in a public place
and wait for the media to arrive. the delusions of idiots
drive the debate.

Kamchak

November 26th, 2011
11:27 am

Can we get a Soros ilk in there while we’re at it?

Why?

Don’t see how Soros is relevant to the bursting of the construction bubble.

barking frog

November 26th, 2011
11:29 am

the primary political problem in the U.S. is the belief
that the President can control or accomplish anything
without the Congress.

josef

November 26th, 2011
11:29 am

K’chak

Soros, the Rothschilds and the Ragpickers are in control of it all from their offices in Zurich and Obama is their lackey…don’t you ever read the memos? :-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 26th, 2011
11:30 am

It does seem that Mr. Looman and his friends are quick to wrap themselves up in the US Constitution. From the US Crane website:

William (Bill) Looman is a veteran, a patriot, and most importantly, my friend and brother. He and I along with many other Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen/women and Coasties, served, still serve, and shall continue to serve, so that the Constitution of the United States of America cannot be so trampled as to rob any American of their right to freedom of expression. All of you who have been less than kind in your assessment of Bill for his practice of that freedom, should be ashamed of yourselves. Every American has the right of freedom of speech, through the printed word or spoken, and for you to look down upon that right is to declare that not only do you not believe in the American Constitution, but to also declare to all that listen that you do not care to be branded an American. How sad that is.

Let’s just be clear. I’ll be glad to defend Mr. Looman’s right to state his views and whatever else consistent with our constitution. I’ll also be glad to tell him I think his views and statements are those of a moronic buffoon especially when he yells “Soros” as if it is a response.

But enough about Looman…. He is clearly an extremist who would destroy the freedoms of this country while wrapped in an American flag and proclaiming this own false heroism. He blames everyone but himself for his problems and appears, like the cowards we have seen here before, to create lies to support his false propositions.

It is time that the Blame Obama crowd cease its buffoonery and we cease blaming government for all. Government is our tool. it is not evil and it is good when used smartly. We need to find smart solutions and stop the bumper sticker mentality of fearing all like this child Bill Looman.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
11:31 am

“There is plenty of blame to go around”.

Great, make a list and our President wiill not be on that list.

Name them.

Midori

November 26th, 2011
11:32 am

well said, Keep.

very well said.

JamVet

November 26th, 2011
11:33 am

Bro, hits it out of the park with that first post summation. (Man, am I sick of socialist crane operating companies!)

And I’m not sure which is more disturbing, the bigoted moron and his comments, or the fact that there is a Waco (We Ain’t Coming Out!), Georgia. He claimed on his Facebook page that all the loser lefties who had complained about the sign got him two new customers who also hated “that Muslim in the White House.”

The new and unimproved Cheneyspeak-driven GOP, where slogans trump specifics, intelligence is anathema to policy, the actual meanings of words are unimportant and no Republican is ever culpable for anything…

josef

November 26th, 2011
11:33 am

good fight

“Let’s just be clear. I’ll be glad to defend Mr. Looman’s right to state his views and whatever else consistent with our constitution. I’ll also be glad to tell him I think his views and statements are those of a moronic buffoon especially when he yells “Soros” as if it is a response.”

Amen, Brother Ben…

Batman

November 26th, 2011
11:35 am

When Bush took office, the country was in the throws of the tech bubble bursting. The largest increase in personal wealth in our history was built on pretend value in make-believe internet wealth. But Bush (The dumb guy) fixed it, and he did it in less than a year. Then 9-11 hit. Everyone feared when the stock market reopened that the weak kneed Wall Street establishment would sell and the market would drop. And it did, But Bush fixed it.

Then for the next 5 years, Bush was attacked on a daily basis for wiretaps, prison guard misbehavior in an Iraqi prison, just about everything that the media could dig up against him. But almost nothing effected the American Citizen. It was “moral issues about making a very few war prisoners think they were drowning instead of what Clinton had done, sent them to nations that had no problem with real torture.

So after the media destroying anything conservative on a daily basis, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid took over control of our law making body and they immediately began to change the economy. So for the next 5 years our country watched as more and more people lost their jobs, their homes, many lost their family’s security.

This was not issues about terrorists being “tortured” and phone calls being tapped, it was about Americans that couldn’t afford to feed their children being told that they would now be forced to pay for Health Care for poor people while they couldn’t afford food for their own family, gas for their cars if they had anywhere to drive, now that their jobs were gone.

So now it is a big shock that Americans are angry with Obama and the Democrats who have given the EPA power over job creation, restricted our own ability to make our own jobs while government job’s pay have skyrocketed and the number of people on welfare and food stamps have reached levels never seen in this country.

So now its because the people who are angry are ignorant. People who have never hired a person in their lives claim to know more about business than a guy who owns millions of dollars worth of crane equipment setting idle.

There’s only one solution. Obama is fired next year or he spends another four years offering no leadership, no realistic plan for recovery and four more years of this ignorance that government knows best. I don’t have to tell anyone what his goals are. Read his books, inspired by his Marxist Father and his racist, anti-American pastor. He will tell you and leave no doubt.

Anyone with the brains to understand this needs to join in the fight. Trying to convince liberals on this blog will do nothing. If reading the newspaper won’t convince them, people that they detest will certainly not convince them.

We are fighting for our country as much as any generation before us. But we aren’t fighting people from other countries, we are fighting the worst enemy of our country that the founding fathers warned us about: We are fighting a corrupt and power hungry government that has to be lawfully replaced. But we have no fight with the liberals on here. They vote for entirely different reasons that conservatives vote. And they are so few, and getting fewer. So who cares what they think?

Kamchak

November 26th, 2011
11:38 am

But Bush (The dumb guy) fixed it, and he did it in less than a year.

Not intended to be a factual statement.

Tess

November 26th, 2011
11:41 am

Why oh why won’t government fix it for me?

Mr. Loomis shares a common bond with the OWSers.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
11:46 am

Here are the facts.

Our economy collapsed on w’s watch and he used the” never saw it coming” card.

Now if you want to make a list of all the people in government and the private sector that are to blame for the collapse, do it .

Lets end the blame game now.

Mikey

November 26th, 2011
11:47 am

Let’s face it folks, the Republicans are only going to support the rich and the Democrats are only going to support those sucking and freeloading off the system. So the middle class and those who are working for a living have no support. We are just expected to pay for everything. We need a viable third party.

Washington Outsider

November 26th, 2011
11:49 am

Construction took an abrupt nose dive in 2008, when President Bush was still in office. The economy tanked thanks to his economic policies, a huge raid on the treasury and two unfunded wars. President Obama has been attempting to correct the errors of the Bush administration since his inauguration in 2009.

Perhaps the Waco construction company owner, Mr. Looman, should get together with others in his industry to lobby Congress and the Senate to pass the infrastructure bill? Passage of the bill would go a long way to providing jobs and essential repairs to our bridges, roads and highways. Ignore Fox News and that Norquist fellow. Then Mr. Looman might truly be considered an independent boot-strapper.

@barking frog – your comment is spot on. No president can control or accomplish anything without the Congress – whose approval rating now approaches the margin of error, i.e., is close to Zero. Republican and Tea Party obstructionists would do well to remember this.

Kamchak

November 26th, 2011
11:49 am

…and the Democrats are only going to support those sucking and freeloading off the system.

Also, not intended to be a factual statement.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
11:51 am

mikey,

Can you make a list of the dems that do not support the middle class?

Brosephus

November 26th, 2011
11:51 am

When Bush took office, the country was in the throws of the tech bubble bursting. The largest increase in personal wealth in our history was built on pretend value in make-believe internet wealth. But Bush (The dumb guy) fixed it, and he did it in less than a year. Then 9-11 hit. Everyone feared when the stock market reopened that the weak kneed Wall Street establishment would sell and the market would drop. And it did, But Bush fixed it.

My oh my….

I’m guessing schools are not teaching anything in relation to bubble economics. A president doesn’t fix diddly squat with the economy. We haven’t had a sound economy since Reagan’s administration. It’s been one bubble after another followed by a “jobless” recovery. People wonder why 20 million people are out of work. Hell, just look at the number of jobs lost since the 1970’s versus how many have been added.

Mary Elizabeth

November 26th, 2011
11:52 am

josef@11:12

You are becoming predictable. I gave you about a 95% chance of responding negatively to my statement of my realities, but I cannot keep from stating my truths simply because you will not be pleased. I am not trying to antagonize you, or anyone else for that matter, but at the same time, I plan to continue to state my perceptions, as I see them, for those perceptions just might enlighten a few.

I did not say that I felt that all people in the South would be Muslims or militia-sympathizing in their views, I said that I was not surprised – because I grew up in the South – regarding that particular man’s views. Now, I will elaborate for you and any other interested reader (Oh, the dreaded many- worded response :-) .

The man’s views on Muslims and his sympathtic militia thoughts did not surprise me because of the extreme way in which he handled the issue regarding hiring or not for his business, i.e. signs and Facebook page against Obama, the government, etc. I figured anyone, especialy anyone from the South that I know, who would feel compelled to go to that extreme, had already not only bought the propaganda rampart against Obama and the “government,” but that his reality (expressed in what he did lately) had more than likely been deeply ingrained in his psyche for decades. If you do not see how dominant that type of thinking is in many of the old Confederate states, you are not seeing with my eyes. I know that those same views are held by many in many national locales, also, just as George Wallace had a national following not just a Southern following, but that fact does not keep the intensity of those irrational views from existing strongly here to this day.

A year and a half ago, I went to my 50th high school reunion that took place in South Georgia. About 100 classmates were there. One of the speakers said our country is going to the “pits” and “to top it off we have a Muslim in the White House.” I spoke up and said, “You are out of line.” My best friend from high school said, “Way out of line. Sit down.” Everyone else was silent. He did sit down. That is the South that I know and that I grew up in.

You should speak of your own experiences of the South, and I know you will, but, josef, there is no need for you to insult me because I do not concur 100% with your own reality. Your insults will not keep me from speaking my truth. I will not insult you, in return.

A few months back I said teasingly to you, to keep our conversation light, that I would not stereotype you if you would not stereotype me. Thinking of me as simply “nice” or “not so nice” are both stereotypical perceptions. My experiences and perceptions are much richer than that dichotomy, as I am sure everyone else’s are, also.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
11:53 am

I thought Waco was full of whack jobs in Texas not Georgia.

Batman

November 26th, 2011
11:54 am

Fellow Conservatives:

- -Not intended to be a factual statement.- -

See what I mean? This is the best they have to rationalize another four disastrous years. Does anyone really believe that the person who posted that would ever have the ability to understand what Obama and his policies have done to this country?

Does anyone really believe that they were going to change his mind or any other liberal’s mind? They refuse to address what you actually say, and if you start giving arguments as powerful as is obvious, expect to be banned, like so many conservatives have been banned in the past.

They don’t want to hear what you say and telling the truth will only result in more tantrums and personal attacks. But really: what else do they have.

Have a good weekend, Conservatives. The liberals will be here trying to convince themselves that they are funny and smart while they are actually neither.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
11:56 am

josef is a fierce advocate for the Rebels of the South.

He is imagonna defend the South until his dying breath.

Washington Outsider

November 26th, 2011
11:57 am

@Batman – the housing policy was pushed by the Clinton and Bush administrations. The independent mortgage industry has never regulated. The independent, unregulated mortgage industry, and people who applied for loans without a job, or grasp of basic home budgeting, might be blamed, if one is into a blame game. Pelosi and company are not to blame for the housing bubble.

I just want Congress AND the President to fix the problem. I think we can agree that politics has become disfunctional in the USA.

Kamchak

November 26th, 2011
11:59 am

This is the best they have to rationalize another four disastrous years.

Sorry, sport.

The disaster started thirty years ago with the implementation of laissez-faire, supply-side, trickle-on, phlogiston Econ 101.

Brosephus

November 26th, 2011
12:01 pm

No president can control or accomplish anything without the Congress – whose approval rating now approaches the margin of error, i.e., is close to Zero.

Don’t talk about my Congress like that… //snark//

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/in-praise-of-congressional-staff/2011/08/25/gIQAmaUjvN_blog.html

Their approval rating is about double the approval rating of the HOT lanes on I-85. To be fair, you’re talking about a 9% approval rating vs a 4% approval rating. As an aside, the US going Communist has a higher approval rate than Congress does. :)

Batman

November 26th, 2011
12:02 pm

Washington Outsider

We disagree with who to blame, but you are absolutely correct that politics has resulted in a disfunctional government. That’s what happens with no leadership in either party. It’s like it was in 1994. Where’s Gingrich when we need him?

josef

November 26th, 2011
12:03 pm

ME

Talk about 95% predictable…I knew I’d get one of these missives from St, Mary Elizabeth of Our Lady of the Water Fountain, too! If you’d have said what you said here in the beginning rather than that little snipe, fine.

I could tell you stories about growing up in the South and living here (unlike some who went running off only to come back and tell us all how bad a job we did with the mess y’all left behind), that would make your hair curl. But, whether or not I want to admit it, those people doing those things to me, were me, too.

You say: “…your insults will not keep me from speaking my truth. I will not insult you, in return.”
Insult you? Where and how did I do that? “I am not trying to antagonize you” No, you do it without even thinking about it. You’re not trying to, you’re succeeding! :-)

The guy with the truck is a wa’-do, plain and simple. And I repeat, you’ve got your own ticket punched for the duk-sha-nee train. You remind me of the church goers on Sunday morning who love to testify about their “salvation” and how clean and white they are now. Just remember, when you go to yapping about Southerners and their shortcomings, use the first person plural…

getalife

November 26th, 2011
12:04 pm

outsider,

President Clinton did not want to support investing in housing after the Internet bubble busted.

He had no choice because congress did.

He wanted and still wants to invest in green energy.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
12:06 pm

bat,

“We disagree with who to blame”

No, lets make a list of who is actually to blame and end this silly blame game.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 26th, 2011
12:06 pm

Batman, do tell us all the way the EPA has destroyed this country? 4 disasterous yearsof Obama? By what measurement?

Gingrich? How absurd!

getalife

November 26th, 2011
12:09 pm

I will start the blame game list with phil gramm and the entire gop.

Your turn cons.

Batman

November 26th, 2011
12:09 pm

Fellow Conservatives

- -implementation of laissez-faire, supply-side, trickle-on, phlogiston Econ 101.- -

It’s like the old story about jokes in prison. They don’t tell the joke, they just say a number because the jokes are so old that someone just decided to number them. And of course the term “sport” is another attempt at pretending to be funny and smart, but it’s actually just parroted behavior.

And liberals, try going to other blogs and get “cool and funny” things to say that hasn’t been beaten to death by the same old tired people saying the same old tired nonsense.

And Conservatives, we will get out of this. The people here represent such a very small minority. It is obvious that most people see the problem. These people never will.

Pilfered

November 26th, 2011
12:10 pm

In cash-strapped Washington, President Obama’s $1 trillion health care law is presenting a tempting target for lawmakers seeking funds for other projects, as Congress last week raided the health care piggy bank for the third time in less than a year.

Congress last week axed a part of Democrats’ signature domestic achievement to find $11 billion to cover the cost of repealing a withholding tax that otherwise would have hit government contractors in 2013. Mr. Obama signed that bill into law on Monday.

The withholding bill follows two other efforts — one in December and another in April — that reworked the health care law to squeeze savings for other priorities. The December bill funded higher payments for doctors who treat Medicare patients, and the April legislation repealed a paperwork provision in the original health care law that businesses said would be onerous.

All told, Congress and the president have tapped some $50 billion earmarked to pay for benefits and programs in the health care overhaul in future years to fund more-immediate spending needs.–The Washington Times

josef

November 26th, 2011
12:13 pm

getalife

Who’s to blame? You. Me.
Who has to fix it? You. Me.

Batman

So, the EPA destroyed the country? One more mess Richard Nixon and the GOP left to clean up, eh? :-)

Batman

November 26th, 2011
12:14 pm

Fellow Conservatives:

- -do tell us all the way the EPA has destroyed this country?- -

He doesn’t understand how to use a question mark, but insists that I spend my time to try to debate something which I never said. LOL!!

Outta here!!

Kamchak

November 26th, 2011
12:14 pm

getalife

November 26th, 2011
12:16 pm

“Who’s to blame? You. Me.
Who has to fix it? You. Me”

Agreed.

The list is too long to actually list so lets stay with there is plenty of blame to go around.

There was only a couple of senators that voted no and warned of the collapse and they are gone.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 26th, 2011
12:21 pm

And the false lion does runneth like a coward in the light of truth–Book of Darryl.

josef

November 26th, 2011
12:27 pm

Getalife

I am and I will. I am also an American. I am and I will. I am also a homo sapiens. I am and I will.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
12:28 pm

Imagonna be a fierce advocate for our President because somebody has to do it.

Mary Elizabeth

November 26th, 2011
12:31 pm

josef@12:03

“And I repeat, you’ve got your own ticket punched for the duk-sha-nee train. You remind me of the church goers on Sunday morning who love to testify about their ’salvation’ and how clean and white they are now. Just remember, when you go to yapping about Southerners and their shortcomings, use the first person plural…”
———————————————–

Those words above, by you of me, are all stereotypical images. They are all surface images, and they are all wrong, as a result of being so superficially conceived.
And, they are all insulting words, as well.

You will be antagonized by my words many more times in the future, I am sure, josef, but that is primarily because we have different visions – not because of our locale, or because of where we happened to have been born. I regret that you will be antagonized by my thoughts, but that feeling is for you, not me, to transcend.

josef

November 26th, 2011
12:35 pm

getalife

My last one was to your @ 11:56…

Rebel South? Where have you heard me defend that? Seriously? And which rebel South are you talking about, the 1776 one, the 1860 one, or the one of my generation that took our stand, stayed and lived our lives standing against the entrenched authorities and oppressive regimes of that day…? Rebel, you betcha…from a long line of them going back to Guillaume de Nogaret and Machir the Babylon…it’s in my blood and my DNA… :-)

bman

November 26th, 2011
12:36 pm

“But the truth is, the industry was benefiting a few years ago from an artificial construction boom that eventually went bust”

The construction boom was real. It was as real as the housing boom, the dot.com and telecom boom. When there is real money being put in & taken out, it isn’t artificial. That said…i do get your point.

josef

November 26th, 2011
12:40 pm

getalife

I hope you’re a better fierce advocate for him than he was for my kind! Seriously, though, here I am one who didn’t and won’t vote for him, but he’s being jumped on for things he didn’t do and I don’t like that..it’s the rebel in me… :-)

ME
:-)

getalife

November 26th, 2011
12:41 pm

josef,

I have Sicilian DNA which is like the South so I am a Rebel too.

We don’t like Italy and have our own country so there :)

bman

November 26th, 2011
12:43 pm

josef .. .. what “kind” are you?

Brosephus

November 26th, 2011
12:44 pm

The construction boom was real. It was as real as the housing boom, the dot.com and telecom boom.

Yep, they were real. The problem is similar to building a house. If you don’t build on a strong, solid foundation, then everything will come crumbling down into a big heaping mess. As long as speculators are the chief profiteers in this country, we’ll continue down that route. Instead of putting in hard work and time to earn a profit, now people just wanna bet or speculate on something and hope to strike it rich.

josef

November 26th, 2011
12:50 pm

bman

What kind of what? Give me a label…

getalife

Kinda envious of the Sicilian DNA in a lot of ways…don’t mess with me, I won’t mess with you. Mess with me and I’ll come right back atcha…meanwhile, a bottle of good vino, a little opera, some great eats and some good eye candy…

bman

November 26th, 2011
12:55 pm

“I hope you’re a better fierce advocate for him than he was for my kind! ”

I don’t label people lol

josef

November 26th, 2011
1:00 pm

bman

Gotcha! :-)

The reference was to his lukewarm “fierce advocacy” on DADT, though. Lots of good rhetoric, but when it came down to action, well, pretty much MIA…but he did sign it and for that I’m grateful, Now, if he’d just get off the pot on DOMA… :-)

Seriously, though, right now he’s got bigger fish to fry, so I’m cutting him a little slack on that one…

bman

November 26th, 2011
1:00 pm

Bro .. .. I see your point, and I agree – especially with the flipping of real estate. But, the dot.com and telecommunications was another thing. People put in long, hard hours. Not all CEOs and their BOD made the right moves. It was just too much, too fast.

Some dot.coms did survive. Ebay, Amazon – look at the Apple turn around. I remember someone on cnbc saying how mail.com was going to replace the US Mail service. At the time, and the years that followed, that seemed silly. Nowadays? email replacing snail mail is becoming closer to reality.

Brosephus

November 26th, 2011
1:01 pm

josef

I don’t know why you’re waiting on “He with no spine” to do something. :)

bman

November 26th, 2011
1:02 pm

josef .. .. ohhhh ok.

Welcome to the Occupation

November 26th, 2011
1:04 pm

No matter how hard he wishes to believe it, that collapse had nothing to do with overregulation or federal mandates imposed by the current administration.

In fact, the collapse in construction employment would have been more severe without the stimulus bill that Obama championed and that Republicans continue to condemn.

Well, them rubes gotta have something in the way of an ideological narrative to make sense of their woes. Since the poor guy happens to live in a region that has had the back broken of any genuine progressive alternative vision of how the world might be better, the anti-government one will have to suffice. Never mind that this anti-government posture is just a thinly disguised frustration with government for not doing more.

Brosephus

November 26th, 2011
1:04 pm

bman

Many of those dotcoms had no true business plan for sustainability. There were quite a few starry eyed people who thought they’d make a killing just because they started something. It all goes down to having a solid foundation. The dotcoms that did survive managed to do so because they had solid foundations that fulfilled a “need” and not a “want”.

It all goes back to long term planning versus short term thinking.

josef

November 26th, 2011
1:11 pm

BROSEPHUS

Given the mood of the country right now, I hope he doesn’t try to do anything “for” me. I’ll just bide my time over to the Rothschild place and try and stay out of the limelight! :-)

flagger

November 26th, 2011
1:11 pm

It all comes back to it was the republicans fault , don’t it Jay Libbo…

Brosephus

November 26th, 2011
1:11 pm

bman

November 26th, 2011
1:14 pm

Bro .. .. you would be surprised to know that the more larger start-up companies back then (especially telecommunications) and how they – meaning investors, board members, directors, CEOs were connected to the larger companies who eventually, gobbled them up. There was big big $ behind some start-ups that failed. Webvan burned through one billion of VC funding.

It was actually an amazing (and exciting) time. Ahhh the internet and it’s possibilities….

Midori

November 26th, 2011
1:14 pm

Mary Elizabeth,

I grew up in the South (Virginia) and East (New York).

There is so much truth in what you say.

I’ll just leave it at that. Thanks for your post.

getalife

November 26th, 2011
1:20 pm

Many Internet companies failed and so will green energy companies.

We need to replace half of the banks gdp with something that actually produces a product instead of wall street scams.

Green energy is a no brainer but the fossil fuel companies have done a great job with their propaganda.

Retired Vet

November 26th, 2011
1:21 pm

Washington Outsider, dysfunctional not disfunctional.

Mary Elizabeth

November 26th, 2011
1:28 pm

Midori@1:14 p.m.

And, thank you for your words acknowledging that truth, Midori! Now, out for a walk in the chilly, but fresh air.

Dawg'88

November 26th, 2011
1:38 pm

The economy is in need of fixing no doubt.

But until this country stops killing the unborn…don’t expect it to get any better.
Obama’s priority is keeping his donors happy (i.e. Planned Parenthood….which told an mother to be about getting pregnancey help: “we don’t do that here…now if you want an abortion as an option…”).

You see he cares more about a eugenics (look up Margret Sanger’s reason for starting PP) based entity and securing immoral policies like supporting abortion legal countries outside the US that he isn’t zeroing in on our problems.

Keep playing God for a fool…expect nothing in return…

BO: The Abortion President….

Dawg'88

November 26th, 2011
1:42 pm

Political Absurdity Everyday:

Dems and liberals in general: Its the GOP’s fault. And they believe everything that Dems propose just because its a Democrats position. Forget if it violates your priorities.

GOP and conservatives in general: Its the Dems fault. And they believe everything that the GOP propose just because its a Republican’ s position. Forget if it violates your priorities.

You see….neither party is for the American people everyday. They have to check with their party because you are not supposed to think for yourself. You must believe what we tell you to believe.
Democracy….hardly!
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Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 26th, 2011
1:55 pm

The abortion president? Any label to attack. Facts be damned.

Sux Limbow

November 26th, 2011
1:56 pm

This Loon jackass can just blow his whiny brains out. Why should Obama stick his teat out for this witling to suck it?

Kamchak

November 26th, 2011
1:56 pm

Keep playing God for a fool…

(Sigh) And exactly which god is that?

pogo

November 26th, 2011
1:58 pm

Warning! Warning! Blowhard Megalomaniac at 12:31!

josef

November 26th, 2011
2:02 pm

Pogo

Be nice! :-)

Kamchak

November 26th, 2011
2:02 pm

Warning! Warning! Gratuitous name-calling at 1:58!

josef

November 26th, 2011
2:03 pm

K’chak

Be nice! :-)

Recon 0311 2533

November 26th, 2011
2:04 pm

Well unfortunately too many business leaders say that the impediment is over regulation, along with overall uncertainty. The proof is continued high unemployment and anemic GDP growth. You can’t spin those facts into non- considerable considerations for measuring the effectiveness of an incumbent president and his administration.