For GOP, deficit reduction was never the goal in the first place

You could offer a lot of reasons for the apparent failure of the supercommittee to reach agreement on cutting the deficit before its deadline of midnight tonight.

However, the bottom line was the Bush tax cuts.

The Republicans insisted on making them permanent. The Democrats refused. And the Democrats had the better part of the argument. After all, everybody supposedly agreed that the supercommittee’s overwhelming priority — its entire reason for existence in the first place — was to cut the deficit and debt.

And if that’s the goal, you cannot responsibly insist on maintaining the Bush tax cuts in their entirety, given that such a step INCREASES the national debt by $2.5 trillion over the next 10 years. You can cut Medicare, cut Medicaid, cut student loans and cut Social Security, but if you do all those things AND make the tax cuts permanent, you have succeeded in making life tougher for a lot of people but you accomplished nothing toward reducing the deficit. In fact, you’ve made things worse than if you just sit back and do nothing.

UPDATE at 8:34:

Just so there’s no doubt, from The Hill:

“Mitt Romney said Sunday at a campaign stop in New Hampshire that he would not support any deal struck by the supercommittee that included new taxes, even if it meant trading limited tax increases now for the assurance that the Bush tax cuts would become permanent.

“I believe the right answer is cutting taxes, so I will not endorse any plan that raises revenues, raises taxes,” Romney said, according to Fox News….

“There will be a lot of give and take of proposals made and yet I will not support any proposal based upon increasing taxes or revenues. I will support proposals reducing spending,” Romney said.”

– Jay Bookman

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Jm

November 21st, 2011
7:43 am

Um. Headline is not factually correct.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
7:46 am

Democrats actually proposed and have insisted on a stimulus in the deficit committee work.

How on earth is that deficit reducing? It’s not.

So one can make the same argument that Democrats were never there to cut the deficit. Using Bookman logic of course.

Denny

November 21st, 2011
7:48 am

The facts speak plainly to me that the GOP is stuck since they all signed the pledge.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
7:48 am

” you cannot responsibly insist on maintaining the Bush tax cuts in their entirety”

Liberal code language for “let the tax cuts expire on the rich and extend them for everyone else”, which is also deficit increasing.

Democrat hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I support OWS 100%

November 21st, 2011
7:48 am

Just another recycle coverup so that the poor and middle class can continue to struggle. We get exactly what we vote for and the supercommittee is serving it up on a silver platter!!!

Normal

November 21st, 2011
7:51 am

Ol’ Grover must have alot of nasty pictures on those Republican pledge signers…

Thank God, the Democrats stood firm this time.

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
7:51 am

Republican truly have no interest in reducing the debt or deficit and their “actions” demonstrate this quite clearly.

Jay

November 21st, 2011
7:52 am

Yes, jm, the Dems did include stimulus in some of their proposals. But it was never a deal-breaker or dealmaker for them like taxes were for the GOP.

And you know this. Your claim serves purely as a smokescreen, and a poor one at that.

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
7:52 am

Republican hypocrisy abounds.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
7:52 am

Jay

The actual facts here are both parties are to blame. I blame the Democrats more, but what matters is nothing was done.

I think the only solution is unifies control of Congress again. And whichever party that is can have a constructive negotiation with whoever is president. In short, nothing will get done so long as we have a divided congress, so everyone is going to have to wait and hope the markets don’t have a coronary in the meantime.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
7:55 am

“smokescreen”

Weak refuge there…..

The democrats don’t intend to let the Bush tax cuts expire for everyone either. Which also increases the deficit. Stop protecting a bunch of hypocrites.

Gale

November 21st, 2011
7:55 am

::rolling eyes:: The mystery is that when a bunch of them get voted out for their gridlock practices, the next bunch rant about their -mandate- and proceed to do the very same thing. Partisan politics is a disease.

Jay

November 21st, 2011
7:55 am

We’ve had divided Congresses many times that have been able to reach deals, jm. There was no GOOD reason this one could not have done the same.

Mick

November 21st, 2011
7:56 am

jm

Face it, you are the minority in your thinking, it’s the wrong way to get back to where we once belonged…

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
7:57 am

Liberal code language for “let the tax cuts expire on the rich and extend them for everyone else”, which is also deficit increasing.

What a load. Well, it was until jm dumped it.

Lord Help Us

November 21st, 2011
7:58 am

As long as we elect representatives who believe their job is to get reelected instead of governing, this mess will continue…

Jm

November 21st, 2011
7:58 am

“you are the minority in your thinking”

Mick we’ll let the next election decide that.

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
7:59 am

Stop protecting a bunch of hypocrites.

I’m not protecting the Republicans.

ByteMe

November 21st, 2011
7:59 am

Let the Bush/Obama tax cuts expire NOW… just like they were supposed to expire last year.

USMC

November 21st, 2011
7:59 am

CUT Spending! The Democrats were never serious about cutting spending.

You can spin it anyway you want Jay, but your article is “as usual” Intellectually DISHONEST with all of your bluster and bravado! :-)

We have a spending problem; plain and simple! Get off of the welfare “Crack” that has warped your brain.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
8:00 am

Jay 7:55 I don’t disagree

But evidently it’s not going to happen.

So we get to wait for unified control.

Someone is probably lobbying for a parliamentary style of government right about now. I’m half inclined to send a check….

Granny Godzilla

November 21st, 2011
8:02 am

From Steve Benen

The problem, of course, is with the substance of the new Republican plan. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities’ Paul N. Van de Water summarized the latest GOP proposal, put on the table late yesterday.

Republicans on the supercommittee have made a new offer that would reduce deficits by $640 billion over the next decade, according to news reports…. The Republican offer consists of roughly $542 billion in spending cuts and $3 billion in revenues, meaning the ratio of spending cuts to revenue increases in the plan is 181 to 1. These measures would also produce nearly $100 billion in debt-service savings. Democrats promptly rejected the new Republican offer as unbalanced.

When one includes the $900 billion in discretionary spending cuts already enacted in the Budget Control Act, the plan’s total deficit reduction rises to about $1.445 trillion, and its ratio of spending cuts to revenue increases rises to 481 to 1.

Hmm. So, Democrats would give up $542 billion in spending cuts and Republicans would give up $3 billion in revenue — not a penny of which would come from additional taxes on anyone, but rather, the end of a tax break currently enjoyed by corporate jet owners.

This, in the minds of GOP committee members, is a “compromise.”

GOP FAIL

USMC

November 21st, 2011
8:03 am

Chris Matthews’ CRUSH on Obama is officially over:

Thrill Is Gone? Matthews Turns On Obama; ‘I Hear Stories That You Would Not Believe’
http://tv.breitbart.com/thrill-is-gone-matthews-turns-on-obama-i-hear-stories-that-you-would-not-believe/

Even the Leftwing nut cases like Chris Matthews are jumping ship on Comrade Obama…

Repug 2012!

Mary Elizabeth

November 21st, 2011
8:03 am

Well said words. Thank you. And one has to ask, “Why?” Why have they been so insistent that the Bush tax cuts become permanent, when those tax cuts have reeked such harm to the nation, as a whole? Afterall, as former U.S. Deputy Secretary of the Treasurer Bruce Bartlett has said, “If tax cuts were supposed to have created more jobs, then where are the jobs?”

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
8:03 am

Republicans are addicted to Grover or owned by him.

Jay

November 21st, 2011
8:07 am

Your repetition of the bumper-sticker slogan “we have a spending problem” betrays your true priorities, USMC. It confirms what I wrote, that your priority and that of the GOP is not the deficit, which would require cutting spending AND raising taxes.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 21st, 2011
8:07 am

What? If they are now the Obama tax cuts as many of our wingnuts argue, should be no problem in Obama terminating them to reduce the deficit. And it does not violate Grovers idiot pledge because the taxes were always intended to go up…its just letting it happen, no act or vote necessary. Should be a win win. Wonder why its not…..oh wait, there is that headline that say its all.

USinUK

November 21st, 2011
8:08 am

“Even the Leftwing nut cases like Chris Matthews are jumping ship on Comrade Obama… ”

you obviously missed the bulge in his pants he had for W …

Peadawg

November 21st, 2011
8:09 am

“Let the Bush/Obama tax cuts expire NOW… just like they were supposed to expire last year.”

^^^^THIS^^^^

Granny Godzilla

November 21st, 2011
8:10 am

Speaking of jumping ship…

“George Will Excoriates Gingrich’s Influence Peddling: ‘He’s The Classic Rental Politician’”

ByteMe

November 21st, 2011
8:11 am

I think Democrats everywhere should make Grover (not the Muppet) the focus of their ire in 2012. Any Grover-accolite should have to explain over and over again why they were willing to put the future of this country in the hands of a single corporate-funded lobbyist.

Sean Smith

November 21st, 2011
8:13 am

Let the bush tax cuts fade away. The economy did very well at the pre bush tax rate under Clinton.

JKL2

November 21st, 2011
8:16 am

granny- its ratio of spending cuts to revenue increases rises to 481 to 1.

Sounds like a good start to me. If someone want’s to get out of debt, the first step is to cut up the credit cards and stop spending money. Since that works for everyone in the universe, maybe the Demwits will eventually figure out it would work for the government too.

Until you get your spending under control, all the revenue in the world isn’t going to help you.

Aquagirl

November 21st, 2011
8:17 am

I see the Republican water-carriers are up early today. Not that I blame y’all—you know who will rightfully take the heat for this colossal failure.

And who in god’s name cites Britbart for anything? He willfully distorted “news” to assassinate a woman’s character and you’re still drinking from that well. Gross.

ByteMe

November 21st, 2011
8:18 am

JKL2 thinks that how a person handles a budget is the same as how a government should run a budget. :roll:

Can I declare war on someone just because a government can?

Granny Godzilla

November 21st, 2011
8:19 am

JKL2

“Sounds like a good start to me.”

Why of course it does. We don’t expect better of you.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
8:20 am

Democrats proposed $500B in new stimulus as part of deficit reduction

Not chump change. And not deficit reducing.

bob

November 21st, 2011
8:20 am

Repubs were not serious which means dems can keep on blowing through trillions. Bush had a couple hundred billion deficit in ‘06, that jumped to 400 billion under Pelosi in ‘08 and 1.4 trillion under Pelosi and Obama. Those damn repubs !

HDB

November 21st, 2011
8:24 am

Let’s just be realistic here…..it’s going to take the COMBINATION of reductions in spending AND an increase in revenues to offset the deficit!! anyone who refutes this is dreaming!! Rather than to argue as to who should have the dominant position, can we agree on this:

1) a two-year FREEZE of the federal budget
2) Run a complete cost-benefit analysis to ACCURATELY (not haphazardly) determine where the cost savings can occur.
3) Combine replicated areas (like military procurement……)

If THIS can be done…HONESTLY…no politics involved….the fiscal ship can be righted!!

bob

November 21st, 2011
8:25 am

Jay, why did so many democrats vote to end the luxury tax on expensive cars and yachts ? The law was going to bring in billions from the greedy rich yacht buyers and then dems voted with repubs to give the rich yacht buyer a tax beak. Why do dems believe in tax breaks for the wealthy yacht owners like John Kerry ? Hell, John Kerry does not care what the tax rate is anyway since he was caught registering his yacht in a differant state to avoid his high tax state. But lets reinstate the luxury tax because a raise in tax rates means higher tax collections, that is a fact isn’t it ?

Jm

November 21st, 2011
8:26 am

Fact. We do have more of a spending problem than a revenue problem when u look at medium and long term projections

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
8:26 am

If someone want’s to get out of debt, the first step is to cut up the credit cards and stop spending money.

And the second step is to pay off the balance on the card with interest. Something the Republicans refuse to do. Pay their bills. You know the ones. Unfunded wars. Unfunded tax cuts. Unfunded pescription drug company benefits…

AmVet - Just say no to spendaholic Republicans

November 21st, 2011
8:28 am

Make the Bush tax cuts PERMANENTS????

If not so tragic these incompetent, self-destructive and deadly dolts would be hysterical.

Men of such great vision as these, need their own mascot.

My nomination?

http://tinyurl.com/y8rrzyc

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
8:29 am

Fact. Cutting taxes does not increase tax revenues and tax revenues (call them all “fees” if it makes you feel better) are the only thing that pays the bills.

Jay

November 21st, 2011
8:29 am

Actually, Bob, the fiscal ‘09 deficit was already at $1.2 trillion before Obama even took the oath of office.

carlosgvv

November 21st, 2011
8:29 am

The number one priority of the Republicans is the financial protection of the rich. It’s difficult to imagine how they could make this more obvious. And, because they are ready, willing and hoping the 2012 election will make them able, cutting Social Security, Medicare and Medicade will be a priority if this becomes necessary to protect the rich. The Republicans are not trying in any way to hide the fact they are the party of the rich and could not possibly care less for the middle class and poor. Why, because of this, they still have so many middle class supporters is beyond my understanding. Do millions of Americans have a “I want to be broke and out in the street” wish?

Gordon

November 21st, 2011
8:31 am

“You can cut Medicare, cut Medicaid, cut student loans and cut Social Security, but if you do all those things AND make the tax cuts permanent, you have succeeded in making life tougher for a lot of people but you accomplished nothing toward reducing the deficit.”

Nonsense.

Federal government spending rises 7.5% per year if NO changes are made at all. Cutting spending by $3T over the next 10 years actually just lowers the INCREASE in spending over that time. I’m not opposed to letting the Bush tax cuts expire, but lack of revenue is not the problem in comparison to out-of-control entitlement spending.

Revenue should drive spending. Everyone (individuals, corporations, local and state governments) look at their revenue and base their spending on that. The federal government decides what it wants to spend first and then tries to get its revenue to match that, and continues to fail miserably. The position the left should be taking is this: “since the American taxpayers aren’t willing, based on the people they send to Washington, to spend any more than they are, we are forced to restructure entitlements. Then the decision will be with the American people: they can either accept the cuts or send people to Washington who will demand more revenue. But this continued game of spending money we don’t have must end.”

Let the American people decide if they really want to pay the cost of government we have now. I can live with whatever decision they make. But please stop whining about how the Republicans won’t raise revenues to cover the ridiculous level of spending in Washington. Besides being mathematically impossible, it would destory what’s left of our economy. Nothing being proposed by either side even comes close.

Aquagirl

November 21st, 2011
8:31 am

JKL2 thinks that how a person handles a budget is the same as how a government should run a budget.

The Republican party induces a severe case of know-it-all-itis. They encourage average citizens to believe they know more about climate change based on a couple of googles than people who have spent years in the field and actually know what they’re talking about.

This is why they don’t care if Herman Cain is stupid. They really, really think that complex problems are created by lack of ideological political purity. I can see how this attracts certain personality types.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
8:31 am

Someone (Democrats) who just says raise taxes on the rich is not a deficit hawk

josef

November 21st, 2011
8:32 am

Gale

November 21st, 2011
7:55 am
“::rolling eyes:: The mystery is that when a bunch of them get voted out for their gridlock practices, the next bunch rant about their -mandate- and proceed to do the very same thing. Partisan politics is a disease.”

And that’s the truth.

Jay

November 21st, 2011
8:33 am

Just to remove any remaining doubt:

From The Hill:

“Mitt Romney said Sunday at a campaign stop in New Hampshire that he would not support any deal struck by the supercommittee that included new taxes, even if it meant trading limited tax increases now for the assurance that the Bush tax cuts would become permanent.

“I believe the right answer is cutting taxes, so I will not endorse any plan that raises revenues, raises taxes,” Romney said, according to Fox News…

“There will be a lot of give and take of proposals made and yet I will not support any proposal based upon increasing taxes or revenues. I will support proposals reducing spending,” Romney said.

Peter

November 21st, 2011
8:35 am

Republican’s really not able to fact the truth, unless they are invading another country.

josef

November 21st, 2011
8:36 am

How far have we gone with this partisan horse manure? I caught part of the Ralph Nader interview with Pat Buchanan…and you know what? Those two tin horns were actually sounding moderate in comparison.

Common Sense

November 21st, 2011
8:36 am

Come on Bookman. Be objective. With all the gimmicks the democrats use to claim budget cuts, that is the headline you are going to use?

This blog needs to be moved to the Comics Section.

USinUK

November 21st, 2011
8:37 am

Jay – I hope the Dems rerun that quote ad nauseum and accompany it with this pic

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/mt/assets/politics/Mitt%20Romney%20bain%20capital.jpg

Truth-O-Meter

November 21st, 2011
8:38 am

I said it once and I will say it again, when leaders blame people for being out of work, they have no intention of creating jobs for that same populace; ala Newt Gingrich and Michelle Bauchman. For the last three years they have blamed President Obama for NOT creating jobs, now they tell OWS-ers and others, go get a job! Well if there are jobs to be gotten, why are they blaming the president? The curtain hiding the Wizard Republican Party has been ripped for all to see. Not only is deficit reduction not the intent of the Republican Party, neither is job creation.
According to Senator John Kerry who appeared on Meet the Press on Sunday, Republicans will admit off- the-record that they believe that they will win all three branches in 2012 and want to wait until then and do what they want to do.
I don’t think the OWS-ers that were insulted by Gingrich and Bauchman will be voting for that party. At least I hope not.

Jay

November 21st, 2011
8:40 am

I think the key line from Romney is here:

“There will be a lot of give and take of proposals made and yet I will not support any proposal based upon increasing taxes or revenues.”

In other words, “there will be many attempts at compromise, and I will reject them all.”

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
8:40 am

Tax revenues are the only way, short of default, to pay down the Republican-created national debt. You know the one. The unfunded wars. The unfunded tax cuts that the Republicans had to limit to ten years in their own legislation because the CBO analysis showed they had to end in order to eventually be paid for by other people (you know, grandchildren and such). The unfunded prescription drug company benefit… Own up, Republicans. You cannot all walk away from your obligations like some of our Georgia Republicans have managed to do. :lol:

ByteMe

November 21st, 2011
8:42 am

You cannot all walk away from your obligations like some of our Georgia Republicans have managed to do.

“They should have known I couldn’t pay the loan and shouldn’t have made it to me in the first place.” — Republican Representative Tom Graves.

Gordon

November 21st, 2011
8:42 am

1. Spending the same amount of money 10 years from now as we spend today would be called a 9 trillion dollar cut by Washington.

2,. The unfunded liability of Medicare alone is in the tens of trillions of dollars.

Given those 2 facts, I wouldn’t say “we have a spending problem” is just a bumper sticker slogan. Go ahead and end the Bush tax cuts for all Americans (Obama himself said that was a bad idea), and assuming it does no harm to the economy whatsoever you have done next to nothing in solving the problem. The left will be back for more almost immediately.

We live WAY beyond our means and the rich can’t bail us out. Deal with it.

Jimmy62

November 21st, 2011
8:42 am

Democrats have no intention of cutting spending or government, or limiting it to it’s constitutional powers, and they never did. They don’t care about deficit reduction unless it comes with more power and control. The only thing that matters is raising taxes, if that leads to a higher or lower deficit it only matters as much as it affects their election chances.

Matt

November 21st, 2011
8:43 am

Jay, I thought you’d make more of an effort with such a big issue. You must be ready to eat some turkey!

Even though I disagree with virtually everything you stand for, at least this is one thing we can agree on.

Happy Thanksgiving.

Misty Fyed

November 21st, 2011
8:43 am

The painful fact of the matter is our current congress is incapable of doing their job. Our current President sat back and watched this precious “super committee” fail without event trying to intervene. There’s leadership for you. While you guys continue to worship at Obama’s alter, he is proving himself incapable of running this country. The dems answer to everything is more taxes. The republicans obstinance to everything that would lead to compromise is simply pigheaded. Rank and file conservatives never asked for that.

If Congress refuses to lead in a representative way, maybe we should leave a representative form of government and move to a straight democracy. We can strip congress of legislative duties, cut their pay in half, and do away with benefits. Their responsibility would be limited to executive and judicial oversight, creation of budget “options”, and proposal of law “options”. Make everything a referendum. At least we can move forward.

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
8:44 am

At least when the not-recently-bathed OWS person does gain access to a shower, the body odor will wash off. Gingrich and those that cheer his comments will never escape their stink.

cosby

November 21st, 2011
8:47 am

Yea, right Jay…it is all the Republicans fault. First, the supercommittee was designed to fail. Second, even if they did reach an agreement it was non binding and congress would have to approve – both present and future congress – third, the democrats, as under the current administration held to their hope of raising taxes – ok – on the rich – but they do not define rich – which would include you – We have an adminstration and supported by part of congress that has divided this country to the point of the 1800’s and we know where that lead. Blame the republicans and not the Democrats is just another biased lot from Jay..blame it from the white house down to the Congressional janitor and you may get it right – one more thing Jay, since you like paying taxes so much, feel free to send the US Government more of your money – nothing stopping you and it is not against the law…so go ahead, make a donation to your wonderful Govarnment.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

November 21st, 2011
8:47 am

You mean, they could take my Tax Cut away by doing nothing? Well, kick my butt and call me Mimi! And here I was waiting for my next Tax Cut.

This is turning out to be disgusting. Danged libruls!

Granny Godzilla

November 21st, 2011
8:48 am

Misty

Are you aware of the benefits of doing nothing?

Obama handed the GOP it’s hat in the debt ceiling debate and they took it and said gee thanks.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
8:50 am

“This blog needs to be moved to the Comics Section.”

:D hilarious

Jay, I’m 100% certain Romney is willing to move the ball down the field and compromise as necessary.

Only jay could call Romney a hard liner…..

Too funny

AmVet - Just say no to spendaholic Republicans

November 21st, 2011
8:50 am

The dual incumbency protection rackets must be laughing at us. Slavishly lavishing praise on their deadly incompetence.

435 elected representatives to the US congress and guess how many are even in play?

About 20. That’s it, folks. (Cue up the Looney Tunes jingle.)

And you anti-working class fools b!tch about the unions?

The mafia must stand in awe of these criminal organizations in Washington, Atlanta and everywhere else..

And you scratch your _____ and wonder why nothing ever gets done of behalf of we the people up there?

(Just as is the case with the insurance industry death panels, we ain’t profitable enough anymore…)

Peter

November 21st, 2011
8:50 am

Republican’s have cut taxes, started two wars, and then imploded the economy because “deficits don’t matter”…..

Gee what are they really going to do as long as the rich are happy ?

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
8:51 am

If Republicans really cared about excess spending, they would call the representatives and demand an end to their own entitlements. :lol: Tea Party tools unite! Gather and throw your social security checks into the Boston harbor. Refuse to allow Medicare to pay your medical expenses. Tell the military that you will defend yourself from an Iranian or North Korean invasion but you could use a little help getting rid of all those illegal immigrants on the cheap. Perhaps a fee for each one that is deported. :lol:

TruthBe

November 21st, 2011
8:52 am

Jay, First of all you completely bias wouldbe journlist Jay, the Democrats created this SuperCommittee in the first place and sucked the idiot Republicans in with it. This whole supercommittee has been a scam from the begining. THE DEMOCRATS WILL NEVER CUT SPENDING OR STOP PUSHING FOR TAX INCREASES OR AS SENATOR REID SAYS REVENUE INCREASES. When are you going to sart writing the truth or at lease the whole story instead of pieces. Jay you and the rest of the liberal progessive media are a bunch of liars. Could you putaway your democrat bias and report the real stories and help your Country America for once and stop the democrat owned mouthpiece for once. The Democrats will not cut spending and only want tax increases for us the middle class. Democrats are liars and the entire party has been brought and paid for by lobbyist and communist New World Order people like Soros and the Rlothchilds. Why don’t you ask Nancy Pelosi about her inside trading and using her Congressional job for the inside wallstreet trading deals. Or why the Obama administration gives billions of tax payers dollars to the enemies of America (PLO,Hamas,Hezbolluh,Muslim Brotherhood) thru the State Department with Hillary Clintons help. Why don’t you ask about all the corruption at the Chicago Hospital where Michelle Obama, Barrak Obama,David Axlerod, Jarriett, and other in his adimistration worked to throw out poor black people from southside Chicago. Where is you honesty. This Obama Communist adminstration is the MOST CORRUPT. And the Media is their Partners in Crime. And yes this means you Jay and the rest of the ajc staff.

kayaker 71

November 21st, 2011
8:53 am

In all of this hyper partisan rhetoric, there is no mention of spending….. the big leveler, the reason why we have a problem in the first place. Basic economics 101…. if we didn’t spend so much, we wouldn’t need so much revenue. Is that so hard to understand?

Adam

November 21st, 2011
8:53 am

“For GOP, deficit reduction was never the goal in the first place”

This is my “shock and awe” face

St Simons - we're on Island time

November 21st, 2011
8:53 am

When you pledge allegiance to “some random person” over your flag and country – what’s the word for that again….

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 21st, 2011
8:53 am

Our current President sat back and watched this precious “super committee” fail without event trying to intervene. There’s leadership for you.

Right :roll: Because an entire branch of government needs to be led by another branch. And of course, you know what is happening behind the scenes or in discussions. :roll:

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
8:54 am

Obama handed the GOP it’s hat in the debt ceiling debate and they took it and said gee thanks.

That’s the comedic aspect that I like. I wonder what it is that jm finds amusing. :lol:

Adam

November 21st, 2011
8:55 am

JM: Do you get paid to post arguments like this? If so, you should probably work – fast – on getting better at it. Because if you are, you’re bad at your job.

TruthBe

November 21st, 2011
8:56 am

CUT SPENDING AT ONCE PERIOD. Cut all Senators,Congressman, Department Heads, and the Presidents salary by 50% at once.

Jay

November 21st, 2011
8:56 am

In other words, jm believes I shouldn’t make such claims about Romney based on flimsy evidence, such as the plain words out of Romney’s own mouth.

Gordon

November 21st, 2011
8:58 am

Here is a good description of the real budget picture in Washington. I found one critical of Republicans so most of you would enjoy reading it.

http://biggovernment.com/mvadum/2011/08/02/official-washingtons-crackhead-accounting/

josef

November 21st, 2011
8:58 am

TruthBe

“… communist New World Order people like Soros and the Rlothchilds.”

And there’s your card! Hey, TruthBe, whether you know it or not, the Rothschilds are yesterday’s news all around…you need to get a new canard for the cabal… :-)

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
8:58 am

jm obviously does not get paid to post facts. He doesn’t even do it for free. :roll:

Jm

November 21st, 2011
8:59 am

Taxpayer

I find liberal insanity amusing and that’s about it

How’s my ankle biter doing? Fetch…..

lovelyliz

November 21st, 2011
8:59 am

“For GOP, deficit reduction was never the goal in the first place”

I could have told you that. The modern Republicans are all about cutting spending/taxes in one place and increasing them somewhere else less burdensome to the top1%

Mr. Holmes

November 21st, 2011
8:59 am

jm says that both parties are to blame for the supercommittee coming up empty.

When a rightie allows that both parties could be responsible … you know it’s mostly the GOP’s fault.

TruthBe

November 21st, 2011
9:00 am

All of you other bloggers out there where is your anger for BOTH parties, the lying media, and Obama for their complete lack of leadership and their do nothing governing. People we need to cut ALL government spending and stop giving money away that we don’t have to all other Countries. We need to re-build America not these middle-east Countries anymore.

ByteMe

November 21st, 2011
9:01 am

When a rightie allows that both parties could be responsible … you know it’s mostly the GOP’s fault.

It’s called “fair and balanced”.

JDW

November 21st, 2011
9:01 am

If you watched Gover Norquist on Sixty Minutes last night you know why this failed and know that until his “Tax Pledge” tactic is overcome there will be no…none…nada solultion to this country’s fiscal issues. Grover is simply running an old style protection racket on the Republican Party. It goes like this…

-Sign the Pledge or I will pour money into your opposition is such quanities you can’t overcome them
-Keep the Pledge or I will pour money into your opposition is such quanities you can’t overcome them
-In return you get to live the good life of “governing” such that it is.

He is simply running a racket. It would be interesting to know who is funding him, but in the name of protection he declines to provide any names.

TruthBe

November 21st, 2011
9:01 am

Mr.Holmes you are a idiot.

kayaker 71

November 21st, 2011
9:01 am

Bozo and the Demos must be very happy now. Bozo and his cronies can now say that those damn recalcitrant Republicans just wouldn’t cooperate and that’s the reason why we have a deficit problem. It’s not the run away spending it’s the Republicans. Blame it on them….. that ought to get us re-elected.

Kamchak

November 21st, 2011
9:02 am

Jay, I’m 100% certain Romney is willing to move the ball down the field and compromise as necessary.

“Compromise” I thought Republicans replaced that word with “appeaser”.

Jm

November 21st, 2011
9:02 am

Here are the people to blame.

Harry Reid
Nancy Pelosi
John Boehner
Mitch McConnell

They appointed the hyper partisans that were unwilling to compromise. Reid even appointed the head senate fundraiser, an obvious conflict of interest given the theoretical power of the committee.

Maybe Jay will provide phone numbers….

Granny Godzilla

November 21st, 2011
9:03 am

Face it cons….

You got taken.

And now the nation will blame you.

tee hee hee

TruthBe

November 21st, 2011
9:03 am

josef, You are a slave to the Rothchilds. George Soros is a agent for them and Obama is a brought slave to them aswell.

ByteMe

November 21st, 2011
9:03 am

It would be interesting to know who is funding him, but in the name of protection he declines to provide any names.

As I said before: it would be more interesting for every Democrat at every level to run against Grover in the next election. Let’s make a single corporate lobbyist the face of the “just say no to helping the country” Republican Party and see how well they do.

Jay

November 21st, 2011
9:03 am

TruthBe, cease the personal attacks.

Kamchak

November 21st, 2011
9:04 am

Tick…tick…tick….

TaxPayer

November 21st, 2011
9:04 am

Uh Oh. Jm is doing the Republican diversion thingie. hehehe

Jm

November 21st, 2011
9:04 am

The AA President needs to be fired.