The Gingrich who sponsored Christmas — for rich folks

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Well, if the Republicans insist on treating Newt Gingrich as a legitimate candidate for president, I guess we should take a look at the details of his economic and tax-reform plan.

Not surprisingly, the core of his proposal is a series of tax cuts. It also should not shock you to learn that every change that Gingrich proposes would overwhelmingly benefit those Americans who are already at the very top of the economic scale.

For example, Gingrich proposes to:

– Eliminate the capital gains tax. This year, the richest 1 percent — those with incomes of $532,000 and above — would reap 89.3 percent of that tax savings. The bottom 80 percent — those making $103,00 and less — would share 2.2 percent of the bounty.

– “Dramatically” reduce the corporate income tax to 12.5 percent. This year, those households making more than $500,000 — a little more than 1 percent of all taxpayers — would reap 59 percent of the benefit of that change. Those households making $1 million or more would collect 48.7 percent of the benefits. Gingrich would also allow “for 100 percent expensing of new equipment to spur innovation and American manufacturing,” which would cut corporate taxes still further.

– Eliminate the estate tax, or as Gingrich relabels it, the death tax. Since the tax is imposed only on those estates valued at $5 million or more, 100 percent of the benefits of eliminating the tax would go to the recipients of those very large estates.

“Move toward an optional flat tax of 15 percent …. This optional flat tax system will preserve deductions on charitable giving and home ownership, and create a new personal deduction of $12,000 for every American.” Again, the benefits of that change would accrue almost exclusively among the richest of Americans, because the only group that currently pays an average effective income tax rate of greater than 15 percent are the top 5 percent of taxpayers.

For example, the top 1 percent pay an average effective rate of 21.5 percent. The top 0.1 percent — those with incomes of $2.18 million or more — pay an average effective rate of 22.5 percent. A flat tax of 15 percent would cut income taxes for those Americans by a third.

I have not seen projections of what kind of revenue the Gingrich plan would produce, but given the size of the tax cuts involved, it would be considerably less than the current system produces. Given that Gingrich also proposes to balance the budget, those revenue numbers would be very interesting to say the least. Financing tax cuts on the scale that he proposes while also balancing the budget would require massive reductions in programs such as Social Security and Medicare.

– Jay Bookman

436 comments Add your comment

Schrodinger's cat

November 15th, 2011
11:51 am

Adam

November 15th, 2011
11:53 am

Read my lips – No New Tax Cuts

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
11:56 am

and we’ll use WAMPUM to pay for our debts!!!

getalife

November 15th, 2011
11:57 am

newt has paris hilton baggage and will not be the nominee.

Just go with willard cons and take this defeat better than last time .

Try working on your credibility cons because you have none.

Peadawg

November 15th, 2011
11:59 am

Newt is an idiot. Period.

Alex

November 15th, 2011
11:59 am

I’m still surprised that a political party with leaders as educated and intelligent as Newt and as devoutly religious as Perry/Bachman/Santorum etc has such an infantile, unchristian concept of morality.

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2011
12:01 pm

But Jay……….

It trickles down……. haven’t you seen all the job and income increases adjusted for inflation in the last 30 yrs for the 80% or more that are not at the top? Its all due to the lowering of the income and capital gains tax rates

Oh…….. You haven’t seen them…………….

Well most people haven’t either……. but it makes for great soundbites on talk radio

stands for decibels

November 15th, 2011
12:01 pm

Financing tax cuts on the scale that he proposes while also balancing the budget would require massive reductions in programs such as Social Security and Medicare.

Well, that’s easy to do if you hate this country as much as does Newt.

Adam

November 15th, 2011
12:01 pm

No New Tax Cuts.
No New Tax Cuts.
No New Tax Cuts.

I will vote against and donate to opponents of anyone who votes for NEW tax cuts and anyone who votes to extend the Bush tax cuts again.

Thulsa Doom

November 15th, 2011
12:02 pm

You just knew jay was salivating to tear into newt. Go get em jay.

getalife

November 15th, 2011
12:03 pm

More welfare for the wealthy.

Even coburn is telling you the truth cons.

You are clinging to a failed ideology silly cons.

Finn McCool

November 15th, 2011
12:04 pm

Eliminate the estate tax

This tax affects about 4% of the population. If you aren’t very very very wealthy and you support this tax elimination, well, I hope you have good looks going for you.

Thulsa Doom

November 15th, 2011
12:05 pm

Adam,

You cant donate cause you dont have a job if youre on here 24/7 like you are

ty webb

November 15th, 2011
12:05 pm

so Newt’s turn?…seems jay’s not tiring from the weight of all that water.

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:05 pm

Let’s be honest.

2 divorces … at least 2 incidents of adultry (that we know of)… TIFFANYS Savings and Loan … oh, and he’s a complete and total tool

talk about your candidate non-starter.

Peadawg

November 15th, 2011
12:06 pm

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:06 pm

ty – what can we say – the GOP is giving us a target-rich environment

getalife

November 15th, 2011
12:06 pm

doomy,

After a week of exposing the eye of the newt, you will wave the white flag.

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2011
12:07 pm

Thulsa

Whats up my man? Hope all is well..

You must admit a man who ran around not only talking about family values and chasing Clinton but had mistress of his own has much to talk about……

Even before Clinton was caught up in his lies about Lewinski may on the right were saying that Clinton was not fit to lead because of his affairs……… On that same note some of the same people are now backing Newt……….. Flip side: some of those defending Clinton now want to call out Newt

Its is politics American style……………….

Newt is a smart guy in my opinion but I doubt he will ever man the WH

Jefferson

November 15th, 2011
12:07 pm

Reckon he wants to horse around ?

Thulsa Doom

November 15th, 2011
12:07 pm

They both suck,

You know us cons loves our talk radio!

Finn McCool

November 15th, 2011
12:07 pm

Eliminate the capital gains tax

They already get to pay a low 15% of their earnings in tax while people who work are taxed up to 28%. Do they really need more handouts?

jt

November 15th, 2011
12:08 pm

Remember Progs……………….Newts a warmist.
.
Go easy on him.
He could be a Manchurian Candidate.

Jefferson

November 15th, 2011
12:08 pm

The GOP are like the judges on DWTS, they just don’t know who they are told to like.

Normal

November 15th, 2011
12:09 pm

It seems, like always, Newt is just looking after himself.

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:09 pm

“This year, the richest 1 percent — those with incomes of $532,000 and above — would reap 89.3 percent of that tax savings.”

I’m guessing that included Newt?

Nawwww…..

“I have not seen projections of what kind of revenue the Gingrich plan would produce, but given the size of the tax cuts involved, it would be considerably less than the current system produces.”

Sorry, Jay. Those tax cuts will incentivize job creators to risk their capital and will unleash a deluge of hiring which will spur never-before-seen levels of positive economic growth which will generate sufficient revenue to address all budgetary concerns.

I think I mighta’ gotten an A+ in one of his classes!

Patrick

November 15th, 2011
12:09 pm

But Newt is the smartest person ever to waddle on the earth!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

November 15th, 2011
12:10 pm

Hmmm…. so to apply tax increases to one group is class warfare but to eliminate taxes that disproportionately benefit on group is not class warfare.

ty webb

November 15th, 2011
12:10 pm

UsinUK,
no arguement here(athough I think all this “target” talk should be put away. what’s with lefties and their gun play images?) Just funny jay seems to only have his sights(sorry, couldn’t resist) set on a specific species of game.

getalife

November 15th, 2011
12:11 pm

The mandate was newt’s idea.

Ask him about deregulation and phil gramm to watch him explode.

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2011
12:11 pm

TD

Some do……. some don’t

When time permits I listen to it……….. Rush, Boortz, Hanitty, Savage……… If nothing else it provides a different insight and of course belly laughs

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:12 pm

USinUK

“2 divorces … at least 2 incidents of adultry (that we know of)… TIFFANYS Savings and Loan … oh, and he’s a complete and total tool.”

What’ll sink him is when Reverend Jeffress reminds his listeners Newt converted to Catholicism, that false cult pseudo-religion based on Babylonian idolatry.

larry

November 15th, 2011
12:12 pm

Just the same ole song with a different lead singer

Jefferson

November 15th, 2011
12:12 pm

Newt is a salesman to the easily swayed.

Jm

November 15th, 2011
12:13 pm

Jay. I think Gingrich is Xmas for you.

As are most of the GOP candidates. The gift that keeps giving (for a blogger)

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2011
12:14 pm

Paul

Why hasn’t the Bush tax cuts done the same?

You surely can’t tax people out of business, but the tax rates are not the only variables in the equation when looking at the economy on a world scale

Strawman

November 15th, 2011
12:17 pm

Anything done with taxes at this point should be done incrementally, in a phased approach. I think it would be good to begin by reforming the tax code in this manner: eliminate most of the inane tax loopholes that exist merely to benefit a small group of people. Then allow half of the new revenue to go towards paying off the deficit and the other half to decrease the bottom tax rate(s) for those middle class earners actually paying taxes, in the hopes that this will spur increased consumer spending. Any tax cuts in the foreseeable future should be intended to either a) increase consumer spending or b) spur job creation. Giving tax breaks to the “wealthy” in general does not help when some of the people are not directly creating jobs (say like Johnny Depp). Tax breaks should instead be given to that subset of the wealthy for and only for investing in a business they create or own.

Thulsa Doom

November 15th, 2011
12:17 pm

They both suck,

What up? Been busy as hell but im.managing to sneak in a little time tormenting u libs. I can always find time for that. These proposals will sink newt since he leaves himself too open to the tax cuts for the rich card. He is easy to dislike but the man is a brilliant debater and a very bright guy. But of course he is just an a$$hole when u git right down to it. I think jay is conflicted. He despises newt but loves to harangue the man. is there anyone jay dislikes more than newt?

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:17 pm

ty – point taken … maybe we can say that the GOP is offering us a TOOL-rich environment! ;-)

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:18 pm

Both

“Why hasn’t the Bush tax cuts done the same? ”

I suppose the real question is, why is Newt proposing much more of the same?

Actually, he’s not. Bush cuts also took lots of low income people off the rolls, gave expanded child care credits and support for large families.

Newt just targets the super-rich.

stands for decibels

November 15th, 2011
12:18 pm

You just knew jay was salivating to tear into newt. Go get em jay.

TD, you say that like it might be a bad thing?

when Newt loses, America wins.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2011
12:18 pm

Newt used to be my Congressman (and I voted for him many years ago), but I’m not voting for him for Prez. He’s clueless (like the cons say Carter was), he’s arrogant (like the cons say Obama is) and he has the same skirt-chasing failings that Clinton did (and I didn’t vote for Clinton either time).

Outside of party loyalty, outright pigheadedness and pure Obama-hate, there’s no reason in the world for a conservative to vote for Gingrich. Or for anyone else to vote for him, for that matter.

They BOTH suck

November 15th, 2011
12:18 pm

TD

That was pretty good. While not agreeing with much of his political ideology; I do think Newt is a smart man. I also think Hillary is intelligent, but either one will ever “man” the WH……..

carlosgvv

November 15th, 2011
12:20 pm

The GOP is totally owned by Big Business so, of course, Gingrich will do everything he can to protect them and their interests. The Republicans could not make it plainer how totally they are owned by the rich and yet, they still have a country full of middle class and poor supporters who would not vote for Obama under any circumstances. In 2012 millions and millions of voters will vote for a party that has gone out of it’s way to show it could not possibly case less about them. I simply am unable to comprehend the mental state of these kind of voters.

Stonethrower

November 15th, 2011
12:22 pm

I wonder how may non-millionaires there are in the congress? We all know the senate is the millionaires club! Con or Dem, they are all the same padding their own pockets. Newt is just supporting his friends on both sides.

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:24 pm

so, just out of curiosity … the pic with the article … is that Newt’s “come hither” look???

ty webb

November 15th, 2011
12:25 pm

UsinUk,
agreed, though I also include the dems as being “TOOL-rich”(just the white ones of course…don’t want be called “racist”). Personally, I don’t care if Jay goes after all of the GOP candidates(except Gary Johnson of course, then we got problems).

moonbat betty

November 15th, 2011
12:26 pm

Instant liberal hate: just add equal parts eye of Newt/ Palin ilk/ root of Rush

Jefferson

November 15th, 2011
12:27 pm

Nothing to offer for the working man, pretty much sums up the GOP.

Strawman

November 15th, 2011
12:29 pm

“Outside of party loyalty, outright pigheadedness and pure Obama-hate, there’s no reason in the world for a conservative to vote for Gingrich. Or for anyone else to vote for him, for that matter..”

In presidential contests, there will always be a winner and a loser. Voting in America is now seldom about picking a good man for the job; it’s about picking the lesser of two evils. I had to swallow that bitter pill last election cycle with McCain. I wouldn’t normally vote for Newt on moral grounds, but I would over Obama. Newt does have a proven record for getting things done and he is an idea man (whether you like his ideas or not, he nonetheless thinks outside of the box quite a bit). Other than continuing the war on terrorists effectively, I can’t really point to much Obama has done. And the thing he shouldn’t have done is ram a VERY expensive health care bill down to throat of America when we could ill afford it. There had to be a better solution to help those in need than another monstrous expansion of an entitlement program. I mean, when you are close to bankruptcy, you don’t go out and buy a Jaguar (unless, I guess, you are Obama, Pelosi or Reed).

Adam

November 15th, 2011
12:30 pm

Thulsa: You cant donate cause you dont have a job if youre on here 24/7 like you are

So, you’re on here all the time. Am I to take it you’re projecting and you yourself do not have a job, which is why you are on here all the time?

Or will you admit that was a craven and stupid statement to make?

Nah, you’ll probably choose another option, ignoring what I said entirely, or change the subject to something you’d like to argue with me about. Or maybe just insult me again.

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:30 pm

“root of Rush”

eeeewwwwwww

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:30 pm

USinUK

“so, just out of curiosity … the pic with the article … is that Newt’s “come hither” look???”

I’m guessing you weren’t trying to eat while you typed that -

GeeMac

November 15th, 2011
12:31 pm

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November 15th, 2011
12:31 pm

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Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:31 pm

ILK ROOT!!!!!!

(makes you toot)

Jefferson

November 15th, 2011
12:32 pm

“I wouldn’t normally vote for Newt on moral grounds, but I would over Obama.”

This means this person has no morality.

Adam

November 15th, 2011
12:34 pm

I wouldn’t normally vote for Newt on moral grounds, but I would over Obama.

So you would not sleep with an unattractive person of the same sex for $1, but for a million, hey! now we’re talkin’!

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:34 pm

“I’m guessing you weren’t trying to eat while you typed that -”

:lol:

great idea for weight control (almost as good as the tech ops guy I work with who has a chronic “plumber pants” condition)

Finn McCool

November 15th, 2011
12:35 pm

Newt is just on a book tour. Campaign, book tour…it’s all the same – get your face in front of as many people as you can and have the conservatives faun all over you.

Joe Hussein Mama

November 15th, 2011
12:35 pm

Strawman — “I wouldn’t normally vote for Newt on moral grounds, but I would over Obama. Newt does have a proven record for getting things done and he is an idea man (whether you like his ideas or not, he nonetheless thinks outside of the box quite a bit). Other than continuing the war on terrorists effectively, I can’t really point to much Obama has done. And the thing he shouldn’t have done is ram a VERY expensive health care bill down to throat of America when we could ill afford it. There had to be a better solution to help those in need than another monstrous expansion of an entitlement program. I mean, when you are close to bankruptcy, you don’t go out and buy a Jaguar (unless, I guess, you are Obama, Pelosi or Reed).”

Respectfully, you spent a lot more time on the Obama-hate than you did on polishing Newt up. Thanks for the assist! :D

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:35 pm

USinUK

I was just getting hungry for lunch.

Now…. not so much…..

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:36 pm

Paul – :lol: sorry for the mental image …

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:37 pm

“Newt does have a proven record for getting things done”

what? like shutting down gummint???

oh, yeah, that’s really a record to be proud of …

just ask the GOP which took a HUGE hit after their 1994 mid-term landslide how popular THAT idea was …

BS Aplenty

November 15th, 2011
12:38 pm

Well said, Strawman. Obama is a big government socialist who, at present, has been put in political handcuffs by the American people. Oh, he’s a likeable enough fellow when his political philosophy is chained up, but we all know in his political heart, he thinks government is the solution to all ills – first. last and always.

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:40 pm

BS

“he thinks government is the solution to all ills – first. last and always.”

You have some quotes from Obama to back that up?

Or was that…. what’s your name, again?

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:40 pm

“a big government socialist”

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that’s all I needed to see.

yep, the special wing of the gulag for people who misuse the term “socialist” is expanding at a pace …

Adam

November 15th, 2011
12:40 pm

BS Aplenty: Obama is a big government socialist

annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd I stopped reading. Your namesake is pretty telling.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

November 15th, 2011
12:41 pm

You liberals that keep pushing the idea that rich people just take advantage of poor people are truly sick. It’s such a shame to push that kind of disgusting agenda. I know several rich people in Marietta and they give back more to their communities than anyone I know. They would never take advatange of poor people. They do more for their communities than you could imagine, giving their money and time every week. Liberals pushing this class warfare is so unproductive and truly ignorant.

Adam

November 15th, 2011
12:41 pm

Aw crap I don’t like it when TWO of us do that, but 3? Gah.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

November 15th, 2011
12:42 pm

Trying to convince the “poor” that the rich are out to get them is such a disgusting strategy, I would be ashamed of myself to lie to the community like that for political reasons…

Darwin

November 15th, 2011
12:42 pm

Jay – Class warfare?

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:42 pm

“They would never take advatange of poor people. ”

some of their BEST FRIENDS are poor people …

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:43 pm

“There’s class warfare, all right,” Mr. Buffett said, “but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.”

WOODSTOCK MIKE

November 15th, 2011
12:43 pm

All you liberals on here that continue to push this class warfare should take a real close look at what you do for your community… I bet that will be very telling…

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:44 pm

Here ya’ go, BS Aplenty. This might help you out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQfjb530Aew#t=04m42s

BS Aplenty

November 15th, 2011
12:44 pm

Listen to the little Left-tards talking about morality. Now you same morality kings/queens why not dive into abortion, particularly late-term abortion, same-sex marriages, the explosion of single-parent children in the black, Hispanic and, to a lesser extent, white communities, adultery, porn…Go on, dive in….is it really morality or just your PC-infected opinion of the day.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

November 15th, 2011
12:45 pm

US in UK –

What do you do for the “poor” and for your community?

BS Aplenty

November 15th, 2011
12:45 pm

Sorry, Paul, can’t access your movie. Maybe you can give me the Cliff notes version.

Thulsa Doom

November 15th, 2011
12:45 pm

They both suck,

I dont get much talk radio in except driving to and from appts . Beck bores me as does hannity. Rush I actually like and boortz is hilarious when he gets too ranting. My dose of liberalism I get from jay. I dont think newt has much of a chance in a general election except that he would destroy obama in head to head debates. He would mop the floor with obama and I think rhat is the only re&l fear dems have of newt. Otherwise its romney who scares.em because he can take batrleground states like mich and ohio. Hillary may never have a chance either. Too much of a proven pathological liar. But she stand a better chance than newt because libs dont care about rhe moral failin6s of their leaders like xons do. Strangely enough libs are concerned about the personal failings of folks like newt but when it comes to adultery like clinton or killimg a woman like ted kennedy they just dont seem ti care. Strange.

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:46 pm

Adam

Must be the BS detector’s working for a few of us -

Peter

November 15th, 2011
12:46 pm

What is really exciting is the Stock market loves a Democrat in the white House, and there is where the real Christmas present will come from !

Backwords

November 15th, 2011
12:46 pm

Trying to convince the wealthy that the “poor” are out to get them is such a disgusting strategy, I would be ashamed of myself to lie to the community like that for political reasons

Adam

November 15th, 2011
12:46 pm

WOODSTOCK MIKE: You liberals that keep pushing the idea that rich people just take advantage of poor people are truly sick.

They don’t, it’s Congress that does that and large Corporations in large part that do that. Corporations are not people, yet Congress treats them like they are the most important things in the world and like to equate corporations with rich people, when the two are different. Some people who are rich become so by drawing checks from the profit of their companies, and many also get income from capital gains. Yet, Republicans continue with the lie that corporations are the same as rich people, and that personal income tax has to go down to encourage job creation. The fact is, that has nothing to do with it and has been debunked by Politifact.

So, in short, corporations take advantage of tax breaks and lower regulations with no or little regard to the overall societal consequences and the effect on the individual, unless that individual is the CEO or buddies.

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:47 pm

Mike – other than fund raise, donate and help out when possible???

evidently, since I’m just a liberal, that’s just … not … possible … (because only rich conservatives help the poor, obviously)

Welcome to the Occupation

November 15th, 2011
12:48 pm

I shudder to think of the social uprisings we are going to see if this man and his radical buddies get anywhere close to the White House. It’s scary to ponder.

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:48 pm

Peter – 12:46 – bond market, too

Peter

November 15th, 2011
12:48 pm

Gee how come a group of Millionaires are going to congress to ask that they raise their taxes ?

Because they have a clue !

Strawman

November 15th, 2011
12:49 pm

“So you would not sleep with an unattractive person of the same sex for $1, but for a million, hey! now we’re talkin’!”

You lost me there, genius. The base quality of your metaphor shows you really didn’t have a point.

Armed Liberal

November 15th, 2011
12:49 pm

BSA:

I’ll bite…

abortion – for it to remain accessable
particularly late-term abortion- for it to remain accessable
same-sex marriages – for it
the explosion of single-parent children in the black, Hispanic and, to a lesser extent, white communities – against it
adultery – against it
porn – fot it

So what?

Mick

November 15th, 2011
12:49 pm

woodstock

No one here is begrudging the rich of their fortunes, its just that they have had the bulk of the tax breaks the past decade, now its time to put our house back in order, they are fully capable of poying up a few points more…

Paul

November 15th, 2011
12:49 pm

BS

Sure.

It was Pres Obama speaking and telling a group of small business owners they drive most of the jobs created, that gov’t can’t guarantee their success but can knock down some of the barriers that get in their way.

See, that’s what his words and actions show. Much of what I hear from the Hannity/Rush-type comments (and yes, I do occasionally tune in to them) is a stream of opinion, never ever backed up with the citations you’d expect to find in a high school civics paper.

One of my favorite examples was when Hannity was talking to – was it Mitt? – and the person noted the individual mandate originated with Republicans. Hannity wouldn’t even acknowledge the statement. It conflicted with his narrative, so he ignored it.

Peter

November 15th, 2011
12:50 pm

GGC a local company is really firing on all cylinders..and CHK hit the buy target today.

Natural gas will be the fuel of the future for truckers.

Adam

November 15th, 2011
12:50 pm

Strawman: You’re basically saying that you wouldn’t normally vote for Newt because of your moral principles, but you’ll throw those principles away for the right price, which to you is getting rid of Obama.

Darwin

November 15th, 2011
12:51 pm

@WOODSTOCK MIKE “All you liberals on here that continue to push this class warfare should take a real close look at what you do for your community… I bet that will be very telling…”

I thought class warfare was pushed by the right everytime there’s discussion that tax breaks for the rich should be eliminated so we can help balance the budget?

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:51 pm

Armed – you forgot:

death penalty – against it.

contraception – (all forms, including emergency) – for it

Common Sense

November 15th, 2011
12:52 pm

It’s pretty cool to rig a system where most people are paying little if any taxes,and then carp about the cuts going to those making the most.

And it’s pretty obvious you cannot see the flaws in that logic. But those who understand how to think can…..

Mick

November 15th, 2011
12:52 pm

doom

I believe the polar opposite, obama would have newt tied up in knots if they were to debate. Newt is a poser while the harvard law review obama is the real deal. Newt would be taken to the woodshed…

USinUK

November 15th, 2011
12:53 pm

Darwin – no, no, no … when they talk about the “47%” they’re not committing class warfare … they’re just pointing out that there is a significant number of people who are not as GOOD/NOBLE/TRUE as they are …

that’s all

Thulsa Doom

November 15th, 2011
12:53 pm

Adam,

Nope. I just havent been on much lately. The few times I have been on I notice u seem to be on day and night. If u dont have a job then thats cool. I just rhink your threats of donating against newt ring hollow. Do u really think your $10 is gonna hurt him?