Here’s what’s most damaging to Herman Cain
Things we have learned today about Herman Cain’s candidacy for president:
– It is quite plausible that Herman Cain harassed no one; clearly, not everyone accused of sexual harassment is guilty of that charge, and in the presumed absence of a smoking gun, we will never know for certain what transpired roughly 15 years ago. Even settlement payments don’t establish evidence of guilt.
– However, it is much less plausible that five-figure financial payments were made to each of the two women involved, as Politico reports, and that Cain, as CEO of the National Restaurant Association, knew nothing about such settlements, as he claims. That discrepancy could come back to haunt Cain, given that Politico claims to have seen documentation of the payments.
– This is not a case of character assassination or unfair treatment by liberal media. Any candidate for national office with such allegations in his or her past should expect them to become public at some point and should be ready to deal with them. It’s just a fact of life in modern politics.
– Politico reports that it had been attempting to get a response from Cain and his staff for 10 days before publishing its story. Yet despite that long time to prepare, Cain’s campaign has badly botched its reaction. It shows no sign of having crafted a strategy for how to deal quickly and forthrightly with the allegations, and that failure has compounded the damage.
(Case in point: The botched interview that Cain’s communications director gave to Geraldo Rivera Sunday night. Among other things, you don’t offer an initial national response to such charges via a telephone hookup featuring a relatively low-level staffer with no story to tell. You put the candidate himself on air and have him deal with it directly.)
– A campaign operation is always useful as an illustration of the type of White House a candidate would run if elected. Whatever you think of Barack Obama’s politics, he put together a highly professional, disciplined and effective ‘08 campaign that managed to defeat the vaunted Clinton political machine. Conversely, the impulsive nature of the John McCain campaign, from the decision to make Sarah Palin his running mate to his announcement that he was suspending his campaign during the ‘08 financial crisis, also reflected the candidate’s leadership style.
– Throughout his campaign, Cain has acknowledged that he is not a trained politician and does not have ready answers to many questions. Time and again, he has said that if elected, he would rely on a CEO’s style of leadership, which is to surround himself with good, competent, experienced people and take their advice on complex issues.
On foreign policy, for example, Cain has said that a president doesn’t need “to have extensive foreign policy experience if you know how to make sure you’re working on the right problems, establishing the right priorities, surround yourself with the right people, which would allow you to put together the plans necessary to solve the problem.”
– Cain, as a candidate, has not surrounded himself with good, competent experienced people. He has not demonstrated the ability to establish the right priorities or work on the right problems. Quite the contrary, as this example demonstrates, he has surrounded himself with rank amateurs who don’t know how to put together and operate a strong campaign organization.
The mishandling of the sexual harassment crisis isn’t even the most recent example of that failure. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports today that Cain’s chief of staff and deputy chief of staff may have used tax-deductible donations from a Wisconsin nonprofit that they ran to help finance Cain’s early campaign, which would be a violation of both tax laws and campaign finance laws. (Among other problems, tax-deductible donations cannot be used for political purposes.)
If true — and the documentation is extensive — it’s a mistake no serious candidate should ever make.
– In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Cain has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.
– Jay Bookman
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josef
October 31st, 2011
4:04 pm
These sheets are dirty…good help is so hard to find these days…
Midori
October 31st, 2011
4:05 pm
FIRST!!
Midori
October 31st, 2011
4:05 pm
P.S. – Cain gives me the creeps
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:06 pm
midori
First? What am I? Chopped liver?
carlosgvv
October 31st, 2011
4:11 pm
Jay, you say Cain has “proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks”. And, “he doesn’t know what he’s doing”. Eight years of George W. Bush proved it will take a lot more than that to keep Republicans from nominating and voting for him.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
4:12 pm
LOL Josef!!
you stole my firsties!!!
Midori
October 31st, 2011
4:13 pm
that’s an excellent point there Carlos
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:14 pm
midori
Oh, well, who else would you rather take second seat to?
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
4:14 pm
But Jaaaaaaaayyyy, why don’t you do a thread about how just awful Obama is, Solyndra, Fast and Furious, typical Chicago type politics, the presidential dog trainer or any of the other things that you should. Oh yeah, this is just like the lame stream media to focus on things like Kim K. and her 72 day wedding rather than discussing things that only matter to me.
Thought I’d get that out of the way early.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
4:14 pm
Herman and his handlers need to focus.
The first baby step is to see if he can just go a week without tripping over his tongue. (Or other body parts!)
Then go for a fortnight, etc…
If they had any shame, the RNC would be mortified that this rabid sex fiend (LOL!) is even in the race…
josef, more like pate de foie gras…
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:16 pm
Carlos, Jay
Oh, he’s qualified…over 35 years old and a native born citizen…I DO want to see the long form, though…
godless heathen
October 31st, 2011
4:17 pm
Toast. Dark toast but toast nonetheless.
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:18 pm
JamVet
Oh, no, now they’ll be banning me in California!
David Shivers
October 31st, 2011
4:18 pm
Well said, Jay!
rwcole
October 31st, 2011
4:19 pm
None of this matters if you’re just on a book tour, though. And we thought Cain wasn’t very bright.
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:19 pm
heathen
We asked for fresh sheets and look at what we got…I want my kingdom back…
Paul
October 31st, 2011
4:21 pm
Nice summation, Jay.
It’d be fun to see one of the Republican candidates plagiarize it at the next debate. For once I’m glad Santorum’s sticking around.
Somebody oughta forward this to Perry’s campaign. It’ll make their day.
Romney’s people already saw Perry’s performance on Chris Wallace’s Sunday show. That made their day.
“I don’t care if my tax plan brings in trillions less revenue. Giving less money to Washington is a good thing!!!! (insert grin here)
Not ready for prime time seems to be a hallmark of Republicans this cycle -
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:21 pm
Queue the whiners who will complain that Jay/liberals are afraid of Cain so they are picking on him.
Also queue the morons who will complain that Obama is… whatever… blah blah blah. It’s all noise those people make anyway.
Paul
October 31st, 2011
4:23 pm
AmVet
“Then go for a fortnight, etc…”
When did you start talking like one of them socialist Brits? And what happens to them forts in the daytime?!!?
Scooter
October 31st, 2011
4:23 pm
As President you don’t go to Copenhagen to promote and American city for the Olympics unless you’re assured to come home with a victory.
You don’t get awarded a Nobel Peace Prize for words and you don’t hold onto it after summarily executing an American Citizen (Alwaki) without any due process.
As President, when a veto carrying member of the United Nations Security Council invades another country, you don’t propose referring the discipline to the U.N. Security Council.
When the nation is facing economic stress and unemployment, you don’t spend your political majorities to implement a health care law and then blame the persistently high unemployment on the opposition.
The fact that anybody who supported floating The Obama into White House is now demanding prerequisites is what is astonishing.
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:23 pm
And @rwcole is right… the accidental candidate is just trying to sell books, and a book tour doesn’t really require competency. Just willing townspeople to buy musical instruments and band uniforms.
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:24 pm
PAUL
I wish Perry was the front runner…his scandals are much more interesting…to me, anyway!
Peadawg
October 31st, 2011
4:24 pm
Questionable character, unqualified, bad hires…seems like 2008 all over again.
I couldn’t help myself.
Again, Cain is like Notre Dame is in football right now…irrelevant. He doesn’t stand a chance.
godless heathen
October 31st, 2011
4:24 pm
josef,
Yea this poor old horse is as dead as the Hermacane’s campaign. May they rest in peace.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
4:24 pm
Unless Politico has or can come up with a smoking gun that refutes Cain’s assertion that there was an investigation, which found the allegations baseless and that if there ever was any monetary settlement with the accusers he was unaware, this story could back fire. The Democrats have been thus far silent on this story. Only the left wing media has been attempting to exploit it. Politico is a known water carrying media organization for the Obama administration and they could end up doing the Democrats further harm with Independents if this story becomes perceived as an attempted hatchet job.
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:24 pm
Scooter @ 4:23 wins prize for being first noisemaker.
Jackie
October 31st, 2011
4:25 pm
I hope that Mr. Cain does not have this dirty laundry in his background; without him being the leading candidate for the GOP nomination for President, it appears the others in that race will have to show the country their IQ’s?
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:27 pm
Pssst… Cain voted for Keynesian economics while he was with the Fed.
Pass it on.
larry
October 31st, 2011
4:28 pm
This is Obama’s fault!!!!
Its Obama’s fault that Cain dont know what he is doing.
“I HAVE NO IDEA”
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
4:29 pm
ByteMe,
Yeah, that reminds me of when Sonny Perdue became Governor, it seemed like at first he was like, “What? I won? Wow, wasn’t expecting that…so, okay, what do I do now? Oh, I know let’s invite everyone fishing” and it just all went down hill from there.
Same with Cain — he’s not really running, he’s just selling a book and he thought this would be a fun way to do it. He knows he isn’t going to win. He’s probably just as shocked as everyone else that he’s ahead and he’s having to scramble to make up policies — and not doing it well.
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:30 pm
ByteMe
“You don’t get awarded a Nobel Peace Prize for words and you don’t hold onto it after summarily executing an American Citizen (Alwaki) without any due process.”
Maybe the rest of what Scooter posted might be called noise, but not this one…I’m glad the SOB bit the dust, don’t get me wrong, but this ain’t kosher…
Paul
October 31st, 2011
4:30 pm
josef
We’d be more than happy to send him to Georgia for a while. Don’t you folks there have a longing for secession?
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:31 pm
BOSCH
I’d wager that Cain is as surprised as anybody else…
Paul
October 31st, 2011
4:32 pm
josef
Seriously, haven’t you heard? Obama Administration had a finding from the Office of Legal Counsel that said it was okay –
The more things change…..
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:32 pm
Bosch, the Big Leagues are a rough place to learn how to be a ballplayer. Sonny got lucky that Bush was ramping up the Republi-con war machine for that election. Cain can only get that lucky if the economy crashes or a terrorist attack hits in July 2012.
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:33 pm
PAUL
Nanh, not secession, just the the Confederate symbols…that’s how Sonny beat out Flag Boy…
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:34 pm
PAUL
And Alan the Black Cat was informed…
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 31st, 2011
4:34 pm
I don’t know about you, but I think a guy that can run a pizza chain and pay five-figure settlements to shut people up is just perfect to be President. I mean, there’s experience right there! I’m ready to call the White House and ask for the sausage pizza to be delivered. And if they want to offer me a little—ah, refund—it’s fine with me. Works even better than a coupon.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
4:35 pm
Off-topic but a great read nonetheless. I’m telling you, the hair on the back of my neck stood up when I read this. About a 10 – 15 minute read. I encourage all — Right or Left to read this, you will be shocked. You will really like this, JamVet.
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
4:37 pm
“She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying — and I was standing close to her — and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife. And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, ‘My wife comes up to my chin.’” At that point, Cain gestured with his flattened palm near his chin. “And that was put in there [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable,” Cain said, “something that was in the sexual harassment charge.”
Herman, how dare you tell her that she’s as tall as your wife!! You should be thrown in jail!!
JohnnyReb
October 31st, 2011
4:39 pm
I’m starting to worry about myself. Too many times lately I agree with Jay.
Herman makes a good standup act or radio talk show host. He is a good roll model for blacks who won’t model themselves after a white guy. But, as POTUS, no thanks.
Romney is a RHINO. Perry… well, the jury is still out. Herman, no. Yeee Gads, that leaves Newt!!
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
4:40 pm
@Soothsayer
AHHHHH!!! It’s the end of the world!! Wait wasn’t that supposed to be the year 2000?? Wait, I heard the world was ending a few weeks ago?? Wait, oh yeah, it’s all a bunch of garbage and if you actually believe anything about the link you posted that’s very scary…
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:41 pm
Question
I would assume that the terms of the settlement included a proviso not to speak publicly about this…if Cain does (by choice or popular demand) can these women now speak?
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:41 pm
Johnny, that’s Newt’s whole plan at this point. To be the last comedian standing.
JohnnyReb
October 31st, 2011
4:42 pm
My 4:39 – that would be RINO. Just so you know that I know.
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:42 pm
Johnny Reb
“…that leaves Newt…” Bite your tongue…that’s TOO depressing…
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:43 pm
josef: usually these things are structured that the parties to the contract can’t say anything. If Cain didn’t sign anything — and that likely was left to the NRA board — then he’s free to tell lies and hope the others don’t say anything that might violate the contract terms.
carlosgvv
October 31st, 2011
4:43 pm
Scooter – 4:23
How about sending thousands of American troops into Iraq and Afghanistan and being responsible for many of them being maimed and killed in these useless wars? I’d say that those “who supported floating” Bush into the White House are those who are truly astonishing.
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
4:45 pm
Cain never had a chance anyway – he is a political outsider and thus his appeal.
You have to be a real good ass kisser and b.s. ‘er like Obama and Romney.
FEAR THE MITTENS
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:45 pm
Johnny Reb
I got your r(h)ino…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ81dcD1N8s
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:46 pm
ByteMe
Thanks.
moonbat
It looks like all Romney has to do is sit on the sidelines while the others self-destruct…
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
4:46 pm
“Oh, he’s qualified…over 35 years old and a native born citizen”
Nope. That makes him eligible, not necessarily qualified.
JohnnyReb
October 31st, 2011
4:47 pm
OK, carlosgvv – if I remember right, pretty much the whole country and everyone but Barry in Congress voted for the war. I know, I know, you will come back that Bush lied, etc., etc. However, it was a lot more than just Bush who wanted to go to war. Plus, what does Bush have to do with who the Republican nominee will be (besides the implied dislike for Perry).
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
4:47 pm
@SOOTHSAYER
“The pursuit of money is the root of all evil, and the capitalist system was inherently corrupt and wasteful. Anarchy reined in the marketplace, as corporations blindly pursued profit, with no concern for human needs or for the Earth. How much more sensible are our production brigades, producing only what is needed, and using only what is sustainable. Capitalism encouraged greed and consumption; people struggled to compete with one another, to ‘get ahead’ in the rat race. How much wiser we are now, to live within our ration quotas, and to accept our assigned duties, whatever they might be, in service to humanity.”
Yeah, let’s have a system where there isn’t any currency. Great idea!! Everyone can get up everyday and do nothing. The true liberal way of life. There won’t be any business, no stores, no transportation, no entertainment, wow, that sounds like an amazing life!!
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:49 pm
Doggone
I will argue that point…those are the only qualifying criteria…they are also criteria in the eligibility definition…
Junior Samples
October 31st, 2011
4:49 pm
wonder if obama’s staff thought about trying to fix the broken economy instead of going into the sewer and trying to dredge up 15 year old garbage. they tried this with clarance thomas and it turned out to be inflated lies just like this.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
4:50 pm
Yeah, let’s have a system where there isn’t any currency.
Because every situation has an either/or solution.
JohnnyReb
October 31st, 2011
4:50 pm
josef – Newt is probably the most intelligent, well spoken and experienced of all the candidates. He does tend to be a loose cannon every now and then, but a really strong chief of staff would keep him in check. I’m beginning to think he is the best candidate. I know you disllike his ideology, but he is very close to mine. Notice I said close.
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:51 pm
Junior, other than your intense dislike of Obama, what evidence do you have that this was something his team dredged up?
Anything? Or are these just noises in your head?
jt
October 31st, 2011
4:52 pm
If Cain is innocent and he settled, he has no principles.
.
If Cain claims he knows nothing about the settlement, he has no honesty.(kinda like Bush and Clinton).
.
For Principles and Honesty and Basic Decency……………see Ron Paul.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
4:52 pm
Junior Samples
October 31st, 2011
4:49 pm
wonder if obama’s staff thought about trying to fix the broken economy instead of going into the sewer and trying to dredge up 15 year old garbage. they tried this with clarance thomas and it turned out to be inflated lies just like this.
Good Lord Almighty!!
Teh stupid is strong with this one.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
4:53 pm
wonder if obama’s staff thought about trying to fix the broken economy instead of going into the sewer and trying to dredge up 15 year old garbage.
Since this is the primary season and not the season of the general election, I’d say that more than likely this comes from Republican opposition.
Your mileage may vary.
JohnnyReb
October 31st, 2011
4:54 pm
I heard on the radio this morning, I think it was Jamie Dupree who said if Obama or the Democratic machine had uncovered Herman’s harassment thing they would have saved it in case he is the nominee. That makes sense to me.
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:55 pm
Johnny Reb
“Newt is probably the most intelligent, well spoken and experienced of all the candidates.”
And if that be the case, then it only goes to show just how low we’ve sunk
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
4:57 pm
josef 4:46. I’m sure Romney is loving it that Cain is getting so much attention.
Too bad there isn’t a Democrat to challenge Obama.
Then things would get really interesting.
Campaign season would be funny if it wasn’t so sad.
These are cute though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXdKlpBOvs0
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:57 pm
jt
October 31st, 2011
4:52 pm
“If Cain is innocent and he settled, he has no principles.
.
If Cain claims he knows nothing about the settlement, he has no honesty”
O-si-yo…and, yep, there is that…
josef
October 31st, 2011
4:58 pm
moonbat
I want a draft Hillary movement…
ByteMe
October 31st, 2011
4:59 pm
I think it was Jamie Dupree who said if Obama or the Democratic machine had uncovered Herman’s harassment thing they would have saved it in case he is the nominee.
They have been directly going after Mitt for a week or so, likely because they feel he’s the inevitable choice and either want primary season to run longer or want to soften him up for the general. Either way, they have no interest in attacking Cain at this point, because polls show a loose cannon like Cain is an easier opponent than Romney in the general election.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
5:00 pm
Sooth, that looks really good. I’ve bookmarked it and will go back later to read it when I have the time. (Multitasking right now…)
Paul, I just think it is a much more interesting way of saying two weeks!
carlosgvv
October 31st, 2011
5:01 pm
JohnnyReb
No, it was Bush and Cheney who WANTED to go to war. Most of Congress went along with this because they believed all the straight-face lies these two told. I will grant you that if Congress had dug deeper and not just went along like sheep, thousands of American lives would have not been lost. I never said Bush had anything to do with who the nominee will be. A little reading comprehension might be useful here.
josef
October 31st, 2011
5:02 pm
This just in from the RNC……!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUjnCZxskf8&feature=related
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
5:03 pm
Sometimes you just gotta spell it out for ‘em — BR549
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
5:03 pm
Not to worry. Hannity, Boortz and Limbaugh are holding Cain’s spot for him on AM talk radio. They know he’ll be back doing what he does best.
josef
October 31st, 2011
5:03 pm
followed by this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev5WS1Q1Fp4&NR=1
Brad Steel
October 31st, 2011
5:07 pm
This is not a case of character assassination or unfair treatment by liberal media.
any evidence this was discovered by the “liberal media” (hackneyed and misleading phrase)?
- this could just as well been ginned-up by any of his well-financed republican opponents.
- hhmmm.. if so, it’s a double bonus for his opponent: disparaging cain and the media with one shot.
- also, if so, orchestrating and executing on this strategy warrants the type of person who should be running for president.
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
5:08 pm
“I will argue that point…those are the only qualifying criteria…they are also criteria in the eligibility definition…”
The US Constitution uses the word “eligible” – it says nothing about qualifications for the office of President
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
5:10 pm
WOODSTOCK MIKE: First of all thanks for reading the article.
The quote you have posted is the author’s “quoting” of the New World Order’s propaganda view of the capitalistic past, thus laying the ground work for a (collectivist) new paradigm, not the author’s view. All of the unattributed sections in italic are the same. They are fictional propagandist slogans for the new world’s devised for us by the banking elite.
josef
October 31st, 2011
5:11 pm
Doggone
But…the dictionary definition as puts the two lexical entries as synonymous in this context…you will note that in my original I was not quoting from the Constitution…
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
5:11 pm
The conservatives’ latest gimmick — candidate out of the box — bites the dust.
Conservative ranks are decimated and lacking in real candidates. And the best sign that this is true: their best strategists know it: Rollins, Rove, primary among them.
Republicans are a parody of a political party. They’re a joke. But nobody is laughing.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 31st, 2011
5:12 pm
“She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying — and I was standing close to her — and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife. And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, ‘My wife comes up to my chin.’”
Well, maybe he wasn’t talking about how long his wife is.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
5:15 pm
Again, I ask: given the obvious shoddiness of Herman Cain’s intellectual abilities, where are Donald Trump’s thuggish insinuations that perhaps Herman Cain made his way up the ladder for reasons that are less than on the up and up?
Road to Victory
October 31st, 2011
5:15 pm
“Teh stupid is strong with this one.”
When you call someone stupid, you might want to use spell-check.
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
5:15 pm
“But…the dictionary definition as puts the two lexical entries as synonymous in this context”
Yes, it does…but if you read the actual definitions…it should not make them synonomous
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
5:18 pm
WOODSTOCK MIKE: Here is the previous paragraph, which when read with the one you posted makes sense.
Capitalism is about growth, progress, and change. Under capitalism the virtues of ambition, initiative, and competitiveness are praised, because those virtues serve the dynamics of capitalism. People are encouraged to always accumulate more, and never be satisfied with what they have. “Under capitalism, people need to have a bit of liberty, and a bit of prosperity, so that the dynamics of capitalism can operate. Without some liberty, ambition cannot be pursued; without some prosperity, how could accumulation be pursued? In the post-capitalist world, the capitalist virtues will be demonised. This will be very important, in getting people to accept poverty and regimentation…”
The paragraph you posted represents the propaganda demonizing capitalism and introducing a collectivist economy. Get it?
josef
October 31st, 2011
5:21 pm
Doggone
True…but they are listed as synonyms…eligible is, of course, the more narrow of the two definitions and thus, no doubt, was the reason for its use in the document…
the PRESIDENT'S picks
October 31st, 2011
5:21 pm
Former Senate majority leader Tom Daschle withdrew his
nomination Tuesday as secretary of Health and Human Services over revelations that he failed to pay more than $128,000 in taxes for consulting income and the
use of a car and driver. Daschle paid the taxes and interest — a total of more than $140,000 — last month, several weeks after President Obama had announced his nomination.
Nancy Killefer, a former U.S. Treasury official who oversaw an IRS overhaul, withdrew her candidacy Tuesday as the U.S. government’s chief performance officer. In 2005, the District of Columbia had filed a $946.69 tax lien on her home for failing to pay unemployment compensation taxes for a household employee, according to the Associated Press. Killefer resolved the issue five months after the lien was filed.
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson withdrew from consideration as Commerce secretary last month because of a grand jury investigation into state contracts.
The panel is investigating whether contributions of $110,000 to Richardson’s political committees from 2003 through 2005 were related to a 2004 state contract
that earned nearly $1.5 million in business for a donor’s firm, according to the Associated Press. Richardson has said he expects to be cleared.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s nomination was delayed after it was disclosed that he had failed to pay more than $34,000 in self-employment taxes
while working for the International Monetary Fund. Geithner paid the taxes with interest and was confirmed last week by the Senate on a 60-34 vote.
josef
October 31st, 2011
5:22 pm
First of the l’il b*ggers have arrived! Going ipad now so comments will be even more drive-by!
Gordon
October 31st, 2011
5:25 pm
“He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.”
I won’t state the obvious.
arnold
October 31st, 2011
5:27 pm
It’s not the Democrats that leaked the story to Politico. It was Mitt.
Road to Victory
October 31st, 2011
5:29 pm
“This is not a case of character assassination or unfair treatment by liberal media.”
Nah, you’ve just copied and pasted the story twice today. Nothing to see here.
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
5:32 pm
“It’s not the Democrats that leaked the story to Politico. It was Mitt”
But I bet the D’s are taking notes like crazy!
josef
October 31st, 2011
5:33 pm
Presidents picks
I guess the Dems have to pay for it…they don’t expect a freebie!!!
Not So Casual Observer
October 31st, 2011
5:34 pm
You Libs are funny, funny.
We are now in year 3 of “it was all Bush’s fault” but any mention of the inept, foundering joke of a POTUS currently in the White House is derided.
Soon we will hear:
MY healthcare plan would have worked, not been a financial disaster, not have been forced to raise fees and taxes and there would be rainbows after rainbows except for the fact Bush was President before I was.
Unemployment would be 5% but Bush was President before…
We would have a surplus but Bush was President before….
I would have reduced the national debt but Bush was President before…
MY wife would not have been forced to spend more on her staff than all previous 1st ladies combined but Bush was President before…
MY wife would not have been forced to take tens of millions of dollars of vacations in 3 years but Bush was President before….
I would not have to hide my birth certificate but Bush was President before…
I would not have to hide my use of a Fulbright Scholarship but Bush was President before…
Surely one woman I dated before I met my wife would come forward but Bush was President before…
One of my college roommates would step out but Bush was President before….
I would not have been forced to provide payoffs to all my political supporters through loans, bailouts, and bogus grants but Bush was President before…
I would not have to appoint unConstitutional czars but Bush was President before…
I would not appoint enemies of the United States to positions in Homeland Security but Bush was President before…
I would not have to conceal all of my college records but Bush was President before…
I would have actually published an article for the Law Review but I knew Bush was going to be President before…
I would have enacted legislation in Ohio but I knew Bush…
I would have voted in the US Senate or even attended a session but Bush was President before…
The dog ate my birth certificate, my Social Security card, my college records, my passport, the pictures from my prom, the letters from my old girlfriends and the notice from the Supreme Court of Illinois ordering me to surrender my license to practice law (oh, and Michelle’s).
Cain would be a huge step UP from this meandering, destructive President and his useless, inane Cabinet and staff. But then so would just about anyone but John Huntsman and Mitt Romney.
Scandalous
October 31st, 2011
5:35 pm
MARTIN: — the sourcing involved here. And also, what actually happened to these women as well–we want to be sensitive to that, too. It includes both verbal and physical gestures. These women felt uncomfortable, they were unhappy about their treatment, and they complained to both colleagues and senior officials. In one case it involved, I think, inviting a woman up to a hotel room of Cain’s on the road. Um, but, we-, we-, we’re just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women beside what’s in the story.
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2011/10/31/politicos-martin-dodges-question-cain-details#ixzz1cOha9ngf
Martin “THINKS” so libs don’t have to.
Jefferson
October 31st, 2011
5:35 pm
I think what is most damageing is his ideas and his lack of compassion for others.
Road to Victory
October 31st, 2011
5:37 pm
“It is quite plausible that Herman Cain harassed no one”
Yep, but you keep writing about it. Oops, I mean copying and pasting others stories. It’s also quite plausible that you a: have no life and b: suck at being an op-ed journalist. Either way, Cain is a better human being than you are and has accomplished 100 times more than you ever will.
Bigot.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
5:38 pm
arnold: “It’s not the Democrats that leaked the story to Politico. It was Mitt. ”
Or Rove.
I love this one here:
“Cain would be a huge step UP from this meandering, destructive President and his useless, inane Cabinet and staff. But then so would just about anyone but John Huntsman and Mitt Romney. ”
Priceless. You have to marvel at the pretzels of logic.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 31st, 2011
5:39 pm
Well, I got the candy ready and I don’t like it a bit. I told the missus if kids expect something for nothing they’ll grow up to be librul Democrats. The least they could do is rake some leaves off of the stoop. But she wouldn’t listen to me. I hope the little freeloaders choke on the stuff.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
5:39 pm
OK, I’m out.
Gonna do my part to keep up the nanny state tradition of redistributing food to unemployed, socialist punks and parasites.
(And of course, skimming some off the top for myself! YUM!)
Later, fellow sweet toothed gators…
Road to Victory
October 31st, 2011
5:41 pm
Another OWSer got arrested for rape. Such compassionate little libs they are.
pogo
October 31st, 2011
5:42 pm
The only black people you will ever see liberals such as Jay attack are black people who have the audacity to stray outside what they view as the to be taken for granted liberal black political stereotype. To the modern progressive every black should be a liberal and if they are not, they are to be ostrosized in the worst way. Today Jay allowed people here today call Herman Cain an “Uncle Tom” and neary a word of warning to the poster was issued. This tells me a lot about you Jay. Your really stand for nothing other than liberal ideology. Integrity means nothing to you.
Matti w/cream and splenda
October 31st, 2011
5:44 pm
So, he’s a double talker who doesn’t like to be held to anything he said. What’s new? I hope this “news” item is dead by tomorrow. Repubs: Please DO send him all your money! God bless….
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
5:45 pm
Road to Victory: “Another OWSer got arrested for rape. Such compassionate little libs they are.”
Where do you get the idea that OWS are “libs”?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
5:46 pm
pogo: “The only black people you will ever see liberals such as Jay attack are black people who have the audacity to stray outside what they view as the to be taken for granted liberal black political stereotype”
But, but, but!! What if he’s really not that bright and just not that qualified? What then?
Not So Casual Observer
October 31st, 2011
5:46 pm
jt @ 4:52,
Cain was not the Defendant – the Association was the Defendant, thus Cain had no power over the decison to settle or not.
If “priniciples” are the measure then the women must be unprincipled for not airing their grievances in court. I am SURE these would be the 1st two women in history to file such a complaint simply for the money.
Perfectly believable that Cain “knew nothing” since he was not the Defendant and a decision to settle is usually based upon the cost to litigate versus the cost to settle. This does not mean Cain knew nothing but the statement is plausible.
Road to Victory
October 31st, 2011
5:46 pm
“Cain has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks.”
Why, because he didn’t organize a community of idiots in Chicago?
Because he didn’t vote present more times than he voted yes or no in the Senate?
Road to Victory
October 31st, 2011
5:47 pm
“Where do you get the idea that OWS are “libs”?”
Because of their anti-American chants etc…
josef
October 31st, 2011
5:47 pm
Occupation
The same place he gets the idea that libs are progressives…
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
5:48 pm
“Another OWSer got arrested for rape. Such compassionate little libs they are.””
Link?
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
October 31st, 2011
5:48 pm
Cain you reap what you sow. Remember Cain said, if you don’t have a job, it is your fault.”
Lets see whose fault it is when he is out of the GOP race.
givememyfairshare
October 31st, 2011
5:48 pm
he’s as qualified as the current white house occupant
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
5:56 pm
josef: “The same place he gets the idea that libs are progressives…”
True. [Sigh]
I like to think of the word liberal as a big fence that keeps the sheep in place — and money flowing into the coffers of Roger Ailes of course.
jconservative
October 31st, 2011
5:57 pm
I agree Jay. Cain has been “muddling” through assorted positions for decades and distinguishing himself in none. This campaign is another example of “muddling”.
To date the only guy the Republicans have out there who can carry the Independents in the Swing States is Mitt Romney.
Will Republicans bury ideology and nominate a winner or gamble on another loser like McCain?
I personally will not vote for Romney, but the polling evidence indicates he will carry the independents in the swing states. And that means he will win the 270 electoral votes to defeat Obama.
Not So Casual Observer
October 31st, 2011
5:58 pm
Welcome @ 5:45,
The idea OWS’s are libs:
They are uneducated, unclean, disorganized, poorly spoken and without any specific goals. They want someone to pay them whether they work or not and they want all of their debt forgiven. They look like daily.kos bloggers to me and no sane person could claim the daily.kos is anything but Liberal.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
5:59 pm
It’s a pretty sad time for Republicans when they are forced to defend the candidates that they have. At least it’s entertaining watching them try.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
5:59 pm
…but the polling evidence indicates he will carry the independents in the swing states.
Gotta win the primary first though.
Independents will not decide the primary.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
6:00 pm
Cain You Believe It!: “Cain you reap what you sow. Remember Cain said, if you don’t have a job, it is your fault.” // Lets see whose fault it is when he is out of the GOP race.”
Ha ha, so true. I can just imagining hearing that charming, folky drawl of his as he intones:
“If you’re cruising towards the nomination and suddenly your campaign is flatlining sooner than you can say “Gary Hart”, blame yo’self“.
F. Sinkwich
October 31st, 2011
6:00 pm
Cain is tops in the polls so he’s next for the anal exam excitedly performed by Jay and the rest of his lib ilk MSM.
Disgusting.
Too bad these amateur proctologists weren’t so interested in Hopey/Changey’s bowel movements back in 2007/8. Had the lib ilk media done their job back then we have avoided the misery of the last three years.
Pathetic.
josef
October 31st, 2011
6:00 pm
Jconservative
Which scares the h ell out of both “sides…”
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
6:01 pm
Ilk alert!
Well
October 31st, 2011
6:02 pm
But, but, but!! What if he’s really not that bright and just not that qualified? What then?
His name would be Barak Obama.
Not So Casual Observer
October 31st, 2011
6:03 pm
jcon…@ 5:57,
Who would want a “go with the flow” candidate like Romney? So the dredful Obama wins in 2012, big deal!
With conservatives in control of the Congress, and given the mandate to neuter Obama, then everything the Executive Branch does, whether through exec orders or some other subterfuge can be over turned.
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2011
6:04 pm
I am SURE these would be the 1st two women in history to file such a complaint simply for the money.
And I’m SURE he would be the 1st businessman in history to harass a co-worker. Gosh, that never happens.
Jay is right, though, Cain has done a total faceplant dealing with these allegations. Glaring at reporters, grinding your teeth, and generally looking like you’re gonna slug someone is not reassuring behavior of a man who thinks he should be in control of our nuclear arsenal.
Newsflash, Herman: you’re not in your talk radio echo chamber. You can’t screen your callers and control the microphone. If you can’t deal with this, go back to your studio….after you drain a few million more from Republican pockets.
Not So Casual Observer
October 31st, 2011
6:05 pm
If Romney is nominated and wins then the Congress can control him.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
6:07 pm
Not So Cashz: “They are uneducated, unclean, disorganized, poorly spoken and without any specific goals. They want someone to pay them whether they work or not and they want all of their debt forgiven. They look like daily.kos bloggers to me and no sane person could claim the daily.kos is anything but Liberal.”
On the contrary. A great many of them are at least as well educate, organized, and well-spoken as, for example, the Herman Cain you’re so busy defending out the other side of your mouth.
As far as wanting someone to pay them without working, au contraire. That’s precisely what the rentier class does which the Republicans are working day and night to defend by rewriting the social contract to enrich them at the workers’ expense. We’re living in a country where work is more and more heavily taxed — when it’s even available — while wealth sits as so many bytes on a computer and earns money with virtually no taxation at all. So your claim is obviously false on its face.
“They look like daily.kos bloggers to me and no sane person could claim the daily.kos is anything but Liberal.”
Again, wrong. They have the comfortable liberal establishment organizations — the MoveOn.org’s, the unions, and above all the g-damned Democrats — on the run.
Liberal? Better have a closer look there.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
6:08 pm
As Herman said “Let little Herman be little Herman.”
josef
October 31st, 2011
6:09 pm
K’chak
That lib thing and the obsession he seems to have with the posterior orifice….makes you wonder which ilk he courts
Lucifer
October 31st, 2011
6:11 pm
Cain, as a CEO, is accustomed to telling people what to do and taking no back-sas. You can tell this in his replies to questions. When he gets tough questions, his nostrils flare, his forehead becomes wet, his eyes turn red and he has a difficult time controlling his anger. What? Somebody is disagreeing with me? But I control their paychecks — their very existence. Do you want to find yourself in the unemployment line. I’m the boss, don’t back-sas me or I’ll fire your ass. Oh, but this doesn’t work on the national stage, Mr. Pizza Man. You’re just like the product you sell — full of hot air, crusty and you’re cutting the cheese for all to see
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
6:12 pm
So! The Republicans have basically given up on having so much as a remote chance at taking the White House and have instead focused their faith on gaining control of the Senate and maintaining control of the House. What is the game plan, you ask. Well, keep people jobless was their first order of business. Then, they plan on going after the poor for they want the poor to pay more. It’s an odd strategy but if that’s the plan they wish to go with, so be it. Up here in north Georgia, the poor and unemployed majority are Republicans though. I wonder how that strategy will play out. They’ll need to put the AM talk radio folks into overtime in order to keep them conned through the next election.
josef
October 31st, 2011
6:13 pm
Luci
The thought had crossed my mind…
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
6:13 pm
Lucifer, 6:11,
Sounds like our chin in the air President.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
6:16 pm
Cain reportedly now admits — in a Fox interview taped today to air tonight — that he DID know of at least one case being settled for cash. A story that changes is not a good story.
Also, I find this interesting:
Too bad these amateur proctologists weren’t so interested in Hopey/Changey’s bowel movements back in 2007/8. Had the lib ilk media done their job back then we have avoided the misery of the last three years.
What about Obama’s past has been discovered after the election that we didn’t know about prior to the election?
I believe the answer is nothing. We knew it all prior to the election, largely because the media pursued and published it. It was the American people who decided on their own that they didn’t believe it or it didn’t matter. Conservatives don’t like to admit that fact, but it is fact nonetheless.
And if you think I’m wrong about that, show me where I’m wrong. Cite the facts that were not publicly known and on the public record well before November 2008, but have been discovered later.
saywhat?
October 31st, 2011
6:17 pm
I want to see proof Obama didn’t pay these women to make these allegations 15 years ago. Thats just the kind of thing he would do, like those bogus birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers. Obama needs to take some personal responsibility.
Jimmy62
October 31st, 2011
6:17 pm
I would say Obama’s performance in office belies your theory about Presidents running the White House the way they run their campaign. Once elected, Obama could no longer hide behind the fancy facade he painted, though the media does their best to keep up the charade. Of course they also didn’t dig in to Obama’s life nearly to this extent, and spun everything to help him rather than hurt.
saywhat?
October 31st, 2011
6:18 pm
It will be along time before stinkwich cites anything remotely factual Jay, and you know it. You must be in cahoots with Obama too.
saywhat?
October 31st, 2011
6:19 pm
Well Jimmy62, try and meet jay’s challenge to stinkwich, if you can, instead of making empty accusations.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
6:20 pm
Did somebody say ‘ilk’ ?
redneckbluedog
October 31st, 2011
6:23 pm
Jay, conservatives don’t care……Four words: Clarence “Coke Can” Thomas
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
6:23 pm
Jay, have you also seen Herman’s claim made today that when the charges were brought, he recused himself and allowed his general counsle and human resource officer to deal with the charges….to which the head of human resources says she never investigated Cain or was even aware of the accusations….
Herman has got more splaining to do.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
6:24 pm
And if you think I’m wrong about that, show me where I’m wrong. Cite the facts that were not publicly known and on the public record well before November 2008, but have been discovered later.
Jay! Everyone knows his long-form was not made public until well after his election! And just wait until we find out the truth behind his education. How do we know that he did not make a B in economics.
josef
October 31st, 2011
6:26 pm
Jimmy
You can bet the opposition dug into his life….and didn’t find much…I still don’t buy he’s squeaky clean, but if not, he’s d-mend good at covering his tracks…
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
6:27 pm
Of course they also didn’t dig in to Obama’s life nearly to this extent, and spun everything to help him rather than hurt.
You mean aside from reporting his collaborations with known terrorists at the age of eight, etc.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
6:29 pm
…and the obsession he seems to have with the posterior orifice….makes you wonder which ilk he courts.
josef
Must be an El Rushbo thingie.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
6:31 pm
Jimmy62: “I would say Obama’s performance in office belies your theory about Presidents running the White House the way they run their campaign. ”
In one sense this it true. From an ideological standpoint, many were surprised by the way Obama has run his WH (esp. where ideology intersects with management, as for ex. in continuing Bush/Cheney practices of secrecy, stand-offish relationship with press, etc.). But in this case I believe Jay was talking about the question, which is fundamental to the electoral process, of determining whether a candidate is capable of running a campaign at a sufficiently high level as a reasonable means of determining whether that candidate would be able to do the same with an administration.
The answer with Cain is clearly: NO.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
6:33 pm
Box 26! Box 26! No wait… make that Box 23!
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
6:34 pm
The MSM, including Bookman, wouldn’t out Bozo for most any reason. He is perfect, he is devine, he doesn’t make mistakes. So what is there to say? If you have a perfect President, in Bookman’s spin, you have no criticism to make. What a bunch of crap!!! Bozo has enough baggage to make the most idle political pundit blush, but no one pays any attention. He continually makes mistakes with our money, yet he gets a pass. He is an unapologetic amateur surrounded by a bunch of socialist idiologs that are so far removed from mainstream America that it’s mere existence is a mystery to them. He has done more to doom this country’s existence than anyone in our history but Cain is the enemy, not Bozo. Cain is the wrongdoer, not Bozo, the master perpetrator. We will do anything in our power to keep this ner do well from coming to power, even if it is vicious, demonic and untrue. It’s time Herman put on the gloves.
F. Sinkwich
October 31st, 2011
6:35 pm
Jay:
“What about Obama’s past has been discovered after the election that we didn’t know about prior to the election?”
Not much in the lib ilk MSM, Jay, that’s true. Just one example of investigative journalism that might have been done but never was:
While in college Hopey/Changey said he actively sought out Marxists, socialists, etc., according to his book. Who where they? Why seek them out? What did he learn? Is that why he taught Alinsky principles as a visiting professor? Why didn’t he seek out MBA candidates? Why did he have absolutely no interest in learning about our founding fathers? What is his connection with Ayers/Dorn? Did he get a sweetheart deal on his Chicago house? How did he pay for his education?
Cain never would have survived those questions if that was his background. Why? He’s a conservative.
Hopey/Changey got a free ride from you and the lib ilk MSM, and you know it.
josef
October 31st, 2011
6:41 pm
K’chak
Ewwwwww
josef
October 31st, 2011
6:44 pm
Kayaker
Aw, where’s the optimism and sense of perspective? This country has survived far worse than him. He’s mediocre…
Truth Seeker
October 31st, 2011
6:44 pm
Tomorrow Jay will report on Kim Kardashian divorce.
Jay always follows the major stories of the day.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
6:46 pm
It’s kind of amusing to read yakers letters from an alternate universe and most gratifying to hear sinkwich turn green and probably smell bad. Really, anything worth thinking about in your worlds?
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
6:51 pm
joseph,
He is certainly mediocre but his ideas and policies are not. He has doomed this country to a debt obligation second to none in our history. My sense of optimism? My sense of perspective? It centers on getting rid of this threat in our next election and putting this country back to work…… something that this President has not had the sense and perspective to do. He is a constant danger while still in the WH and the sooner that he goes back to Chicago, the more this country will benefit. He is a social experiment gone bad in the worst way. We made a serious mistake in 2008 and America is paying the price for it now. Anyone who voted for this clown is complicit and to blame and deserves no forgiveness.
granny godzilla
October 31st, 2011
6:52 pm
Raod to Victory
My spelling is only slightly worse than my keyboarding skills, I admit.
“teh” is contemporary vernacular.
then you can haz cheezburger
F. Sinkwich
October 31st, 2011
6:52 pm
Lib ilk media:
(hands over ears) la la la, I can’t hear you, la la la
All hail Obama!!!
Lucifer
October 31st, 2011
6:52 pm
TaxPayer: Who gives a rat’s butt. Obama was a Harvard professor in constitutional law. He’s one smart cookie. Does your intelligence and education even come close? By the way, What color is the sky in your world? You seem to be out there in the Kramer zone.
granny godzilla
October 31st, 2011
6:53 pm
see?
granny godzilla
October 31st, 2011
6:55 pm
road to victory…..
oh it’s you.
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
6:55 pm
“But in this case I believe Jay was talking about the question, which is fundamental to the electoral process, of determining whether a candidate is capable of running a campaign at a sufficiently high level as a reasonable means of determining whether that candidate would be able to do the same with an administration.”
Herman Cain’s campaign is light years better than anyone imagined it would be. What planet are you on? These accusations just come out this weekend and you’re already saying he’s guilty. What a joke.
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
6:55 pm
Why do liberals hate Halloween?
Jay
October 31st, 2011
6:56 pm
Sink, if those were relevant issues, Republicans should have and would have publicized them in the ‘08 campaign. The book you cite came out in ‘04, after all. And yet they didn’t.
You know why? Because nobody but the paranoid right believes those things are important in the least. You had your chance to convince the voting public otherwise, and you failed miserably.
So again, you got nothing.
granny godzilla
October 31st, 2011
6:59 pm
Woodstock Mike
Are you admitting on a public forum that you actually thought Herman Cain could campaign worse than this?
Cool.
Lucifer
October 31st, 2011
7:00 pm
Woodstock Mike: Because they have hollow weenies?
Joe
October 31st, 2011
7:01 pm
Not ready for prime time, obviously. Joking, and evasion are not ideal ways to deal with serious allegations.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:02 pm
Jay
What did Cain do? What has he been accused of. You haven’t mentioned that.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
7:02 pm
Lucifer,
What’d I do to draw your ire. I’m not Catholic. Or Mormon. Or Evangelical. Or…
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
7:03 pm
What a joke.
The only joke is that this book tour is mistaken for a campaign for preznit.
And the rubes are the ones that fell for it.
Now (as we used to say back in my day), ain’t yo face tight.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:04 pm
WOODSTOCK MIKE
Liberals hate everything.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
7:04 pm
yaker
You buy into the myth about obama and the debt, sorry to ruin your nightmare but it was the previous president who put us so deeply into the hole. Go ahead and complain about the stimulus but that was nothing compared to wars off the books, medicare part d, unwise tax cuts that cost us trillions, then finally all the interest on those trillions. So, please it’s OK if you hate mediocre at best obama but the previous guy is the reason why we are so far behind and off course today…
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:07 pm
Mick
Still trying to convince others of this nonsense. If there had been any improvement since the clown took office, I could see your point but its gotten much, much, much worse.
Lucifer
October 31st, 2011
7:10 pm
TaxPayer: Damie, Damie, why you do this to me Damie? Please Damie, let me go home Damie. What we need here is a good old fashioned exorcism.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
7:11 pm
Woodstock Mike: “Herman Cain’s campaign is light years better than anyone imagined it would be.”
Bwa haa. Come again … ?
F. Sinkwich
October 31st, 2011
7:12 pm
“You had your chance to convince the voting public otherwise, and you failed miserably.”
Sadly, you’re right Jay.
Unfortunately the left owns ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, AP, NYT, WaPo, and every other source of “news” in this country.
I do however dispute your contention that those of us on the right don’t think those things are important. They are. We know it. Thanks to the lib ilk media not enough know it.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
7:12 pm
Mick,
Bush 43 is nothing compared to Bozo. The national debt was 10.6T dollars the day Bozo took office. The debt now is 14.63 T dollars. That’s a rise of 4T in the last three years. This is the most rapid rise in debt of any president in our history. In another year, if Congress doesn’t keep him in check?…..projected to be close to 15 to 15.5 T dollars. And who is going to pay for this. Certainly not me at age 74. It’s your kids, your grandchildren and you are not even upset with saddling them with so much debt. What the hell is the matter with you?
gr
October 31st, 2011
7:13 pm
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:07 pm
Mick
Still trying to convince others of this nonsense. If there had been any improvement since the clown took office, I could see your point but its gotten much, much, much worse.
Yep all 700,000 people who lost jobs this month(and last) agree….
OOOPS!
That happened back when it wasn’t worse, much much worse. Cuz minus 700,000 is better than what we got now, duh,,,uh duh du duh
Good Lord almighty.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
7:16 pm
gll
One man’s nonsense could be another man’s gold, with that in mind I would like to interrupt the scheduled political partisanship bashing and throw in this quote from steve jobs sister,
” He didn’t merely reach death, she writes, “he achieved it.” He achieved it with a sense of wonder and amazement, marveling, “OH WOW. OH WOW. OH WOW,” with his final words.”
Very interesting, indeed. I think I would like to go out in a blaze of awe and wonder in a similar fashion…
Here’s the whole story-
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/31/steve_jobs_sister_pens_an_instant_classic/
josef
October 31st, 2011
7:16 pm
Hate Halloween? Sshheesh…I’m ready for 150!!!! and they’re piling in…my own grand babies and kids from school…liberals are liberal with the handouts doncha know!
granny godzilla
October 31st, 2011
7:16 pm
that was me….
i cleaned up my cookies and now my notebook doesn’t remember me.
i wonder if it knows that i’m thinking of an i pad
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
7:17 pm
You lost me with “Cain could not possibly not have known about ” a $10,000 settlement of litigation. CEOs normally are not involved in anything small like that. Unless it was six figures or more, there is no reason to not let the attorneys handle it.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
7:18 pm
yaker
What was the debt when bush took over from clinton? How much is the interest on 10.6 trillion? Your math is way too fuzzy – use a calculator please….
granny godzilla
October 31st, 2011
7:19 pm
we’ll be lucky if we get 50.
the cutie patooties make me melt.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:19 pm
gr
Gosh. You are right. We should be happy that more people on on government assistance than ever before. We should be proud that our military and government helped install elements of radical Islam all over North Africa. We should be glad that they are killing Christians in Egypt.
You are soooo right. The clown is doing the best he can and this is as good as we can hope for.
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
7:19 pm
Unlike the typical leftist career politician, who reflexively assumes the world revolves around him and that he must make a decision to kill a terrorist in the outback of Pakistan, a seasoned CEO has people who can handle the small stuff, and trusts them to handle it. It is the difference between executive competence and a community organizer.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
7:20 pm
F. Sinkwich: “Unfortunately the left owns ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, AP, NYT, WaPo, and every other source of “news” in this country.”
The left “owns” no such thing. Every single one of those outlets is friendly to conservatives, and above all, friendly to capitalism.
Your insistence only shows that you’re unaware of what a true left perspective really is, because I can guarantee you it’s not represented by the outlets you cite.
Well
October 31st, 2011
7:21 pm
The lamestream media made light of any questions surrounding, then, Senator Obama. Dismissed out of hand each and every one. The lamestream media set out to get him elected. He was. Those who voted for him were rewarded with no change.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
7:22 pm
Unlike the typical leftist career politician, who reflexively assumes the world revolves around him and that he must make a decision to kill a terrorist in the outback of Pakistan, a seasoned CEO has people who can handle the small stuff, and trusts them to handle it. It is the difference between executive competence and a community organizer.
Waiting for your fascist savoir?
Lucifer
October 31st, 2011
7:22 pm
Republicans? There really hasn’t been a great Republican president since Eisenhower. Yes, that even includes Ronnie. They no longer stand on their convictions, they are lost in the political wilderness, are henchmen for the wealthy, and the current field of chuckleheads are two burritos short of a combo plate.
They BOTH suck
October 31st, 2011
7:22 pm
ragnar @7:17
That defense would sound great if the allegations had not been made about the CEO himself
This notion that he could have been asked, questioned, etc and didn’t know the outcome………… yeah……. right
YOU don’t even believe that
Mick
October 31st, 2011
7:22 pm
ragnar
Since today is halloween and I’ve never actually seen you, I could picture you in a megamind costume…
carlosgvv
October 31st, 2011
7:24 pm
Not So Casual Observer – 5:34
You are apparently not aware of how much lasting damage a bad two term president can do. Abraham Lincoln himself would have a hard time undoing all this damage in two terms, much less one. And, I will admit that Obama is no Lincoln.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:24 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
The networks mentioned have been listed as leaning left by every single fair source. Perhaps you are just so far left that anything to the right of you, you consider conservative.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
7:25 pm
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/media/News/megamind-art.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.theshiznit.co.uk/trailer/dreamworks-megamind-teaser-trailer.php&h=300&w=400&sz=16&tbnid=-vI-ih2KSTWRxM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&zoom=1&docid=HkpPDNhsN62_hM&sa=X&ei=Ki6vTpzCHc6osAKS4qTiAQ&ved=0CE8Q9QEwDw&dur=3129
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
7:25 pm
carlosgvv,
“I will admit he is no Lincoln”. Tell that to Bozo.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 31st, 2011
7:26 pm
Well, the first one’s showed up and it’s a cute little 10-month-old girl in her Dad’s arms. I never had the heart to ask her to rake the leaves. It’s just like a librul to play with your heart to get what they want.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
7:27 pm
Sectors Most Likely To Gain Jobs By 2015
So where will the new jobs be coming from? A new analysis by the Boston Consulting Group (BCG) finds that U.S. could gain 2 to 3 million jobs and an estimated $100 billion in output in seven industry clusters via a U.S. manufacturing renaissance starting by around 2015. These seven sectors include the follow:
1. Transportation goods
2. Electrical equipment/appliances
3. Furniture
4. Plastics and rubber products
5. Machinery
6. Fabricated metal products,
7. Computers/electronics.
The job gains would come directly through added factory work and indirectly through supporting services, such as construction, transportation, and retail. According to BCG, year 2015 is the time frame when China’s shrinking cost advantage should prompt companies to rethink and shift production back from China or choose to locate new investments in the U.S. The U.S. is also expected to become a more competitive export base in these sectors for Europe and Canada.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
7:28 pm
Speaking of two term damage? The previous guy broke the mold….
josef
October 31st, 2011
7:29 pm
Granny
Me, too…my favorite holiday…more even tan mardi gras
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
7:30 pm
Dear Both @ 7:22, good evening, I find Cain’s story completely reasonable, that he recused himself from further participation in the matter. The rest of the Board of Directors should have participated if they were talking about any serious money, but not the target of the allegation. Haven’t we all said to another lady, ” you are about the same height as my wife”?
Dear Mick @ 7:22, actually my associate is named “Pinky.”
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
7:30 pm
Lucifer: “Republicans? There really hasn’t been a great Republican president since Eisenhower. Yes, that even includes Ronnie. They no longer stand on their convictions, they are lost in the political wilderness, are henchmen for the wealthy, and the current field of chuckleheads are two burritos short of a combo plate.”
Well said. Ronald Reagan is easily the most overrated president in American history, modern anyway. In the future he will be easily identified as the beginning of a long and precipitous decline in the nation’s fortunes, a turning inward to a world of pernicious dreams, a refusal to soberly confront enormous problems, and above all a decision to throw in the country’s lot with a financier class that has never had the nation’s best interests at heart, and doesn’t now after 3 decades of fattening in the field of deregulation and monetarism.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
7:30 pm
After all them razor blades I stuck in the apples last year, I don’t suspect I’ll be having too many goblins this Halloween! (Just kidding! Don’t call the POH-lice, OK?)
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
7:32 pm
Dear Welcome @ 7:22, good evening, “Waiting for your fascist savoir?” Actually Chauncey is enough fascist savior for a country for a lifetime. No more.
josef
October 31st, 2011
7:32 pm
Granny
iPad is great….out here on the veranda and jawing with the ms fonts at the same time. Multitasking!
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
7:32 pm
Sooth,
With our present tax system and smothering regulations for corporate business, I hope your figures are correct. Your post is certainly cogent in that we should re-light the fires and again compete. Let’s hope that the unions don’t get a foothold in that “prosperity”. If so, that light may dim.
They BOTH suck
October 31st, 2011
7:34 pm
Ok Ragnar… I with you…. hahahhhaha
I man was accused of sexual harrasment………….. and he recuses himself and doesn’t even know a settlment ocurred
What planet are you on? If the accused was some analyst he never met…… I’m with you but he was the accused and didn’t want to know anything?
Really?
Thanks for the belly laugh
I have ZERO evidence of his guilt so him saying I did nothing wrong………. Good for him
He knew nothing about a settlement…………. OK
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
7:34 pm
GLL : “The networks mentioned have been listed as leaning left by every single fair source. Perhaps you are just so far left that anything to the right of you, you consider conservative ”
Show me a network that features Chomsky and Olberman in prime time, and I’ll reconsider. As it is, only MSNBC hints at a radical left perspective, but even there it’s still establishment liberal, which is to say, center left at most on a wild hair day.
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
7:36 pm
Dear Both @ 7:34, I suspect you have never held a position of real responsibility, otherwise you would know about Chinese Walls, division of duties, distributed responsibilities, and all of the other sound management theories ignored by democrat overlords. You are all micromanagers, the bane of civilization, and that is the reason you always fail.
They BOTH suck
October 31st, 2011
7:39 pm
Ragnar
Actually I am a well paid logistics and supply chain consultant with a degree in Risk Management, Six Sigma Black Belt and a PMP……………………..
Not the most educated or highest ranking by any means.. but much further along than your myopic talking point bs that you spout on a continual basis
As you were saying
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
7:40 pm
Dear Both @ 7:36, heck, I’ve even handled cases where I did not know the outcome.
willie lynch
October 31st, 2011
7:41 pm
This Herman Cain speak is why he can’t be trusted to run anything outside of his campaign,( and that’s not going so well). But here is an example of his gobbleygook:
Asked about the report Monday morning during an interview with Fox News, Cain at first suggested that he had no knowledge of the report, but then said his staff was reviewing it.
“I’m not aware of this report,” he said. “So, my staff has not had time to go through it. And so I’m not aware of it. They’re not aware of it. We are going to look at the report and see if there is any validity. So at this point, I can’t say that there would be a modification because we don’t know at this point whether or not it’s true or not. So we’ll have to wait until we look at it. But we will take a look at it. But at this point, I didn’t even know about the report until you brought it up on the show.”
Well if you were not aware of it until I just asked the question, how is it that your staff is reviewing it? In the words of the Monday Night Football crew, C’mon man.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
7:43 pm
Welcome to the Occupation,
I listen to NPR every day. The lead up to their 4:00 news hour is filled with liberal pundits who dissect everything from conservative lunch menus to how conservatives tie their shoes. There is seldom a portion of any of these segments that does not portray a conservative as some sort of knuckle dragger with no heart. I have never, never, never heard even ONE of these pundits criticize Bozo as incompetent, amateurish or without substance. They continually prop him up. No mention of anything negative….. not even in the face of devastating news about Solyndra, Fast and Furious, the stimulus, Cash for Clunkers, unemployment….. it’s as if these issues didn’t even exist.
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
7:43 pm
Dear Both @ 7:39, apologies for my harsh language, but your arguments do not reflect acquaintance with managerial ability. Cain’s actions are completely consistent with those of a solid executive. Turn over the penny-ante stuff to the consultants.
They BOTH suck
October 31st, 2011
7:43 pm
Ragnar
It all means nothing anyway………. at least your general point about Cain’s ignorance to a settlement
I said today that he knew………. but nice try
You get an A for effort
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
7:44 pm
“With our present tax system and smothering regulations for corporate business”
These are code for the Right’s denial of the absolute advantage (currently) held by low-wage countries of the Pac-Rim.
However, as wages rise (invevitably) in China and most assuredly fuel costs rise, that advantage will evaporate. Not to mention intellectual property theft.
I think eventually, the whole low-wage capital shift will wear itself out.
St Simons - we're on Island time
October 31st, 2011
7:45 pm
last two paragraphs
it’s called “Prosperity USA” and it’s as illegal as it gets, in a post Citizens United world. That’s so dumb, it’s hard to do. One thing is for sure, his accountant is dirty, and I’ll stake my Stamp on that.
They BOTH suck
October 31st, 2011
7:46 pm
Ragnar
“Turn over the penny-ante stuff to the consultants.”
My home is paid for…….. no car payments and no credit card debt
Call it what you want…… but I’m doing fine by MY standards and that is all the counts
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
7:46 pm
Cain’s actions are completely consistent with those of a solid executive.
That’s what Galt would do.
They BOTH suck
October 31st, 2011
7:46 pm
Ragnar
Meant to say………. He said he knew……. well I knew too
Good night
granny godzilla
October 31st, 2011
7:46 pm
Good Little Liberal
YES YOU SHOULD BE PROUD that even in times of obscene economic inequality we fine Americans take care of each other.
Installing radicals… ah nope. Could you get any more flacid on national security? OOOPS..probably.
Killing Christians in Egypt? Why not adopt an LRA member?
Amongst the blessings I will count before I sleep tonight Good Little Liberal, is that no matter how goofy your politics are I still have the power to hope the best for you.
Trickin and Treatin calls.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
7:47 pm
“I listen to NPR every day. The lead up to their 4:00 news hour is filled with liberal pundits who dissect everything from conservative lunch menus to how conservatives tie their shoes. There is seldom a portion of any of these segments that does not portray a conservative as some sort of knuckle dragger with no heart.”
I would really like to see a Youtube video of that. Got any?
larry.333
October 31st, 2011
7:47 pm
The oldest political trick in the world!!!
SEX GESTURES, FROM 20 YEARS AGO !!
PLEASE !
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:49 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
So what do you support? Is Capitalism bad? Does it need to be replaced? I won my home and have no real bills. So do you get part of what I have worked for? Please. tell us how you want things to be.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
7:52 pm
Welcome to the Occupation has left the building.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:52 pm
granny godzilla
Apparently this is good enough for you. But don’t expect me and others to settle for this pathetic liberal wonderland. We don’t want to see people having to depend on the government. We want people to be proud of their achievments, not subjects of the state.
willie lynch
October 31st, 2011
7:53 pm
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
7:36 pm
The Chinese wall may work in China, but this ain’t China. The idea that the head of an organization as large as the NRA wouldn’t want to know what type of damage has been done to the bottom line in a settlement whose allegations specifically name him, is laughable. It’s the height of mismanagement not to know these things and far from the practice of micromanagement.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
7:57 pm
Sex — yes, that’s right, I said sex — in the 21st century. Was it good for you, too?
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
7:59 pm
Sooth,
No You Tube videos. Give them a listen sometime. It will enlighten your day. The most enlightened part of this diatribe is Teri Gross. She has been an NPR show host for many years now. Also there’s Diane Rhem, David Brooks, Cokie Roberts, Juan Williams (whoops, scratch that), Tom Ashbrook and Ira Glass. it’s really not the hosts that are the biggest offenders. It’s the guests…. and the pundits can almost be seen nodding their heads in agreement when they speak on and on about the upright primates who vote for conservative candidates.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:02 pm
Kayaker: sorry, I don’t listen to talk radio — left or right. But, that having been said, I’m can’t help but think that whatever has been said on NPR has been far and away offset by what is said on Lush, Doorkz, and the rest.
Why does it bother you so much?
willie lynch
October 31st, 2011
8:04 pm
larry.333
October 31st, 2011
7:47 pm
So I guess there will be no repercussions if the women come forward and spell out what they went through. Or better yet they should open the case files and let the allegations be made public in detail. Until then we have Herman Cain covering his a** with this trivial account of what went on.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:08 pm
Sometimes it’s important to concentrate on the things that are really important and put all those other silly things out of your mind.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:14 pm
Maybe some of our resident conservatives can translate this for me from Limbaugh-ese into English.
According to Rush, the Politico story represents ““an unconscionable, racially stereotypical attack” on Cain.
So what, in Rush’s mind, is “racially stereotypical” about this allegation?
Mr_B
October 31st, 2011
8:15 pm
” I have never, never, never heard even ONE of these pundits criticize Bozo as incompetent, amateurish or without substance. They continually prop him up. No mention of anything negative….. not even in the face of devastating news about Solyndra, Fast and Furious, the stimulus, Cash for Clunkers, unemployment….. it’s as if these issues didn’t even exist.”
Quite possibly because most of the employees of NPR at least respect the office of president, if not it’s current occupant. I’ve heard plenty of NPR coverage pointing out problems with Obama’s administration and policies, including the Solyndra bankruptcy. They just don’t buy into the right wing paranoia that sees an attempt to subvert the captitalist system and The American Way of Life in every sneeze that issues from the White House.
Care to cite a single NPR story depicting any conservative unfairly in a negative light, or without giving the subject of the story a chance to respond? They’ve got really good archives.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:16 pm
Bookman,
Take a good look at the Know a Tom post at 8:10. It might give you some clue.
josef
October 31st, 2011
8:18 pm
Jay
So many lines, so little time! Ain’t you got no trick or treaters to terrorize?
Mick
October 31st, 2011
8:20 pm
yaker
You really go above and beyond to disparage this president. Everyone of your “ilk” has been rooting from day one for him to fail. He has done OK with what he has to work with. The bigger failure is congress, especially this new crew from last year, Incompetent, with no clue of governing. Over 220 filibusters by the minority, why do you insist on giving one person all the blame?
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:20 pm
Bookman, What happened to Know a Tom’s 8:10 post? It was so enlightening.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:21 pm
I pulled that post down, kayaker.
Besides, it told us nothing about how this allegation was “racially stereotypical.”
josef
October 31st, 2011
8:22 pm
Kayaker
A look @ 8:10? Not there…he must’ve taken a good look. What did I miss?
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
8:23 pm
Jay
I know that you will never admit it, but this is just like the electronic lynching of Clarence Thomas. After all, what did Cain do? You tried to compare this to Clinton, Wiener and the large group of liberals that actually molested, exposed themselves to or screwed around with others out of wedlock.
Did Cain touch anyone?
Did Cain force anyone to have sex?
Did Cain screw around on his wife?
Did Cain threaten anyone with their jobs if they didn’t have sex with him?
You started this, this morning. So be brave and rationalize what you claimed.
How does this compare to what your heroes did? Were they attacked like this?
I know that you won’t respond to this. After all, what in the hell could you say?
Mr_B
October 31st, 2011
8:23 pm
Jay: I know! I know! Call on me, please Jay!
See, the half-brained one knows that the folks at Politico know that black guys have REALLY big ones, and the hots for white girls and, and , and ………….
Occupy Jay's Blog
October 31st, 2011
8:24 pm
Down with insiders. Cain is an outsider. Long live Cain. Fight the system.
And give us free Medicare, college, and retirement. And no taxes on the 99%.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
8:25 pm
Jay
So Jay, why is it so much worse with Cain? Is it because he is Black or is it because he is conservative?
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:25 pm
I’d say what I said this morning, GLL: Any candidate for president of the United States with this in his work history, Democrat or Republican, should expect it to become news at some point. Are you suggesting otherwise?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
8:26 pm
– In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Hussein has proved himself unqualified for the office that he won. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing…..see how easy that is bookman and libs…….
this is a teachable moment for all right here on jay’s blog……..the liberal media pushes a non-story about cain to attack him and bookman spins it as not really having a problem with the false media template, but uses it as a springboard to attack on other issues and in conclusion decides that cain is unqualified for the presidency……so at the end of the day, libs like bookman have taken something cain didn’t do and spun it to a point where he is unfit to lead……it’s so fun to expose the liberal media for what it is these days……incredibly biased, unethical, and full of itself to the point where it can’t/won’t change even when people like me expose it for what it is……shameful
FYI booky….if you used the same litmus test for hussein, he never would have made it out of the domestic terrorist’s house where he STARTED his political career……this is fun….enjoy the destruction of the dem party brought on by hussein and the radical left……..good times….
Jm
October 31st, 2011
8:26 pm
Is Cain still the topic or is there something new to discuss?
Is Michelle handing out raisins again this Halloween? Trick or treat report from south FL is light traffic.
josef
October 31st, 2011
8:27 pm
Long live Cain…I agree, just not at 1600….
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:28 pm
joseph,
He pulled it. it was a racially explicit post which disparaged whites and made the point that Rush made on his program today. Rush stated that what happened to Cain was a “racially stereotypical unconscionable attack” . Keep a Tom’s post proved this without a shadow of a doubt. That’s why Bookman pulled it. The truth hurts.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
8:28 pm
Jay 8:25 it’s obviously newsworthy.
I have not managed to scare one kid with my vampire fangs. Digital animation has gotten so good it’s hard to scare kids nowadays. They’ve seen it all…..
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:29 pm
“See, the half-brained one knows that the folks at Politico know that black guys have REALLY big ones, and the hots for white girls and, and , and
And, coming down in three, two, one . . .
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
8:30 pm
The lib’s are frothing at the mouth and emitting all over themselves hoping that there is some smoking gun that can derail Herman Cain’s campaign. I don’t know if there’s anything significant in this witch hunt but if not it could seriously back fire on the Democrats.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:31 pm
Billybob 8:26,
Best post of the day.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
8:31 pm
billyb
Has it once crossed your thick skull that a repub is responsible for the damaging info? Cain brain is the most responsible of all, once he tried out for the big leagues he had to know someone would find it. Blame the person, not the messenger! The media was just doing what it does, to each side….
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:31 pm
GLL, who says it is so much worse with Cain? On what basis? I mean, it’s not like he’s been impeached by the U.S. House or anything. The question has been raised and the process is working it through.
So what’s this whole “so much worse” for Cain thing about?
Hannibal Lecter
October 31st, 2011
8:32 pm
Recon. I’m foaming at the mouth……. Would you like to be, I mean, come over for dinner?…….
willie lynch
October 31st, 2011
8:32 pm
I’m just glad Cain is not doing the normal Republican closeted thing. At least these were women.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:32 pm
Look, I just can’t hold it back no longer, I’m votin’ for Cain and here’s why!
rwcole
October 31st, 2011
8:34 pm
Hey ragnar, ever been accused of a crime and not know the outcome?? Didn’t think so. Neither has Mr Cain.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:34 pm
“I’m just glad Cain is not doing the normal Republican closeted thing. At least these were women.”
Surely, you Cain’t be referring to that “wide stance, toe-tapping” stuff are you?
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
8:34 pm
Jay
What a pathetic dodge. You didn’t answer a single point I made. I’ll ask again. What did Cain do?
We knew what Clinton did because the media held back until actual people made accusations, not “unnamed sources”.
You look like crap here, Buddy, but you are certainly no worse than the rest of the media including FOX. Cain is accused by nobody of doing nothing and you guys are like buzzards.
And be truthful. Would this be such a huge story of he were white?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
8:34 pm
jay, 8:14
the fact that the libs can never accept a black conservative who has succeeded….he is always branded fun names by the left and caste out as ‘not one of their own’…….the libs need minorities to continually believe that the only way they can make it, is to vote for a democrat and the democrats will give them stuff and take care of them……that’s worked out really well for the masses so far, huh? rhetorical as i’m sure you are aware……you know, vote for me and i will ‘hook you up’……maybe
Mick
October 31st, 2011
8:34 pm
It’s halloween and the bizarro republican zombies are out looking for libruls to bite;
we know the game and are a bit too quick for your lumbering, silly, words….
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:35 pm
I don’t know what Cain did, GLL.
Do you?
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
8:36 pm
Weird the libs rely heavily on Faux News now. :~)
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
8:36 pm
OH NOES! NOT THE HUSSEIN CARD!
I’m melting…melting…melting….
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
8:36 pm
Jay
Cain didn’t lie to a fricken Grand Jury, Jay. What is wrong with you? Who do you think you are talking to? Do you really think that you are going to be able to argue with me with that kind of childish logic?
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:36 pm
And be truthful. Would this be such a huge story of he were white?
That’s just bizarre.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
8:37 pm
GLL 8:34.
It’s smoke, and maybe or maybe not fire
The media reports this stuff all the time
It won’t slow Cain down, though I don’t think he’ll get the nomination
Romney is going to fillet Obama
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:37 pm
It shore looks like we got a lot of Cain supporters on this blog.
They BOTH suck
October 31st, 2011
8:37 pm
Recon
“it could seriously back fire on the Democrats.”
How do you know that this is not a story leaked from the Perry, Romney, Gingrich camps
After all………. they must get out of a primary first and Cain is surging
Mick
October 31st, 2011
8:38 pm
gll
Actually, its not a huge story but you are making it so, keep venting..
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
8:38 pm
So sad that bookman has already sucked all the blood out of Cain. Drained him dry he has…..
Ah ah ah
willie lynch
October 31st, 2011
8:39 pm
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:34 pm
I’m just sayin.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:39 pm
Argue with you, GLL?
I wouldn’t waste my time in that fashion.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
8:39 pm
Jay
Nobody knows what he did. Because all it has taken was a vague accusation.
No blue dress.
No internet photos.
Nothing even related to what was proof that Democrats attempted to rape and molest women. So please explain why it is comparible.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
8:40 pm
Jay
Considering what you have offered so far, you are wasting your time, Pal.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
8:40 pm
Dangit Jay, what childish logic to point out that some one reported accurately that Cain had had sexual harrassment charges made….. that is sooo childish. Why you need to still to things like arguing about Dem plantations and other gibberish, or just lie like this was your first foray into opinion writing….
Mr_B
October 31st, 2011
8:41 pm
Recon: Absent some proof to the contrary, it seems much more likely that one of Cain’s conservative rivals sicced Politico on him.
If I were working in Obama’s, I’d much rather be facing the Hermanator than most of the rest of the Republican field.
Based on what Politico’s released so far, Cain could survive this. I would hate to see him lose on evidence that is so little and so old. But I sure won’t mind seeing him lose because he can’t seem to think in any terms so complicated that they can’t be expressed in simple declaritive sentences, using words of less than two syllables.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
8:41 pm
tbs,
my point earlier as well……the story is who leaked/contrived this non-story…….that is where the rubber meets the road…….then motivations can enlighten us and tell us the truths of this here media template……
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:42 pm
Any way to disparage the candidate. This isn’t the end. Wait until the liberal press gets hold of the radio conversation. They will dissect every word, invent any excuse to vilify…… I really don’t know why anyone in his/her right mind would run for president. It’s a thankless job populated by power hungry politicians with debts to pay. There hasn’t been one since Harry Truman who has had the balls and the love of country to do their job right.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
8:42 pm
Second melt-down of the day in progress.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
8:43 pm
I think at worst case this will be viewed by the voters as a minor foible on Cain’s part and he will continue his rise in popularity. Why?, because Americans are tired of career politicians who’ve been running this country into the ground for too long. Jay’s analysis that Herman Cain hasn’t run a well disciplined campaign in comparison to Obama’s isn’t going to resonate with voters because Obama’s campaign abilities have not translated into effective presidential leadership.
Jack
October 31st, 2011
8:43 pm
Cain’s popularity is worrying Bookman.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
8:44 pm
jack,
or more like hussein’s unpopularity is worrying bookman….
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:44 pm
GLL, arguing or debating with someone requires that both parties occupy somewhat the same universe. We don’t, and I’m just fine with that.
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
8:45 pm
I like my Mexicans with jalapeño peppers and my Indians with curry
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:46 pm
Dracula,
I like my liver with JuJu beans…. with a little Chianti.
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
8:46 pm
Sooth.
“It shore looks like we got a lot of Cain supporters on this blog.”
Not really, but he’s a lot better than what we currently have.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
8:48 pm
A bad Twilight Zone episode…. I like that!
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
8:48 pm
The germans go well with mustard…. I’ve never tried them with sauerkraut though…..
Shorty
October 31st, 2011
8:49 pm
The sexual harassment story is not nearly as important as the “Cain: ‘Pro-life,’ no exceptions” story.
It is hard to imagine an anti-abortion candidate who refuses to make exceptions for rape or saving the life of the mother winning the presidency.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:50 pm
Plumb pitiful! Not a single trick-or-treater! Maybe it was the two Rottweilers and the pit-bull? Heck, kids just ain’t go no courage these days!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
8:51 pm
“But I sure won’t mind seeing him lose because he can’t seem to think in any terms so complicated that they can’t be expressed in simple declaritive sentences, using words of less than two syllables.”
Truly a racist comment.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
8:52 pm
the fact is that the media openly works and roots for the dems now and they picked a winner in hussein in 2008 who is the most radical leftist leader in our country’s history and they have to cover themselves by portraying the republicans as the radicals……But cain is a normal guy who happens to be a conservative who is black(which the leftist media just hates) and who happens to be very successful, so the media has to try to trick the masses into thinking this here conservative is radical…….it won’t work, none of this will……at this point the country knows who the radical is and he is in the white house…..the media will try to change that image over the next year by attacking whomever his opponent is, but the damage hussein has inflicted is already done…….he in deep doo-doo and bookman and the lib media will foment 100’s of these non-stories over the next year…….i love to educate the masses and expose the left media…..once again, good times!!!
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:53 pm
The Japanese go well with a bit of saki and a touch of musubi. That’s of course if you eat ‘em raw.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
8:54 pm
Jay
In my universe, I address points and answer questions. You, on the other hand are getting to be more and more like your little emotional friends and when you fall on your face when trying to debate someone, you pull out the personal attacks and insults.
Like tonight.
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
8:54 pm
Kayaker 71. I prefer to avoid the liver.
The heart, now that’s tasty. I prefer raw but the few times I’ve had one well done at a cookout, well, those aren’t bad either
Jay ripped Cains heart out for no good reason. Maybe I can get some leftovers.
Jay, if you can airfreight what’s left of Cain, he’ll be reasonably fresh. Transylvania has a fedex office.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
8:55 pm
Gotta go and eat me some fried chicken and greens this evening……peace out!
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
8:56 pm
….he in deep doo-doo…
Someone needs educating in the use of verbs. Just sayin’.
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
8:57 pm
Kay. Red wine for me of course. No saki….
Tessa
October 31st, 2011
8:57 pm
If a man scratches his groin in the presence of female co-workers, he’s probably looking at a sexual harassment charge. It’s all about the money.
Sallie
October 31st, 2011
8:58 pm
O Jay says it’s not a case of the liberal media using a double standard to deal with unsupported allegations about Cain. Well THAT settles it. Of course you can believe Jay Bookman. He would not lie to you.
Right.
Unless he though it might help one of his liberal causes.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
8:58 pm
In my universe, I address points and answer questions
I tried to mapquest that universe……. no where to be found on this planet. Perhaps it is the basis for the new movie, Another Earth…. or maybe its “Left Behind”.
bman
October 31st, 2011
8:58 pm
This is good news….for Romney! And what’s good for Romney is bad for Obama.
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
8:59 pm
Tessa. We have nothing of the sort here.
Eating people isn’t popular, but it’s not illegal either…..
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:00 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
And your nose is there yet again. Take a deep breath. That one’s for you.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:00 pm
Yes… all sexual harassment claims are about the money
and never anything say like a Senator sleeping with the staffers including his top aide’s wife…..
Gman
October 31st, 2011
9:00 pm
You southern gentlemen would never let Herman “Silas” Cain run the Barkley Ranch! Nick said, “Silas, get your hands off Miss Audra!”
Mick
October 31st, 2011
9:01 pm
Someone please roll out the fainting couch, we can stack em six high…
Matthew
October 31st, 2011
9:01 pm
Is this all ya got Jay. Why are you white libs so scared of having a strong, independent thinking black man in office? Could it be racism?
Mr_B
October 31st, 2011
9:01 pm
Recon: What’s racist about the remark? There is absolutely no reference to Cain’s race there. I teach school for a living and I can assure you that neither intellegence nor stupidity are the exclusive property of any race. Being black isn’t what’s making Cain simplistic, any more than being half-black is what makes Obama intellegent.(note that I said “intellegent” and not “effective.”) Some of the dirt-dumbest folks I’ve ever met have been white folks.
Tessa
October 31st, 2011
9:01 pm
What we need is tort reform. Loser pays.
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
9:01 pm
Keep uses mapquest
How 18th century of him
Google maps dude……
Just Say No to Herman Cain
October 31st, 2011
9:03 pm
Obama 2012
St Simons - we're on Island time
October 31st, 2011
9:03 pm
teh sex-time or not Cain is toast, & He’s in a pickle.
You CANNOT take $40k of tax-deductible funds and funnel
it to a shell co (Prosperity USA). No grey. No yah-yah.
Cannot.Do.It.
The ONLY thing he can do other than plea on that, is say
“I haven’t paid quarterly taxes on that yet.” And there’s
the “pickle” heheh. Yo, home skillet, it’s NOVEMBER.
What a lousy “businessman” you are, you haven’t paid
quarterly taxes for 2 quarters.
Either way, if voters understand this, and they will,
nobody will want Herman running a lemonade stand,
much less the biggest corp in the world. Done. Book it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:03 pm
Yep, I knew we did not live in the universe where GLL “address[es] points and answer[s] questions”…. this is the one where he makes childish posts about where his head is located.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
9:04 pm
All my comments and you ‘grade’ one sentence of slang kamchak……he be funny yo’……this is a blog….anytime you would like to have a english composition competition, let me know, I will be sure to laugh in yo’ face biyatch…..sorry jay, couldn’t help myself……..humor intended
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
9:05 pm
Mr_ B “dirt dumbest”
Some isn’t familiar with the nitrogen fixation process and the bacteria that reside there.
Dirt isn’t dumb.
bman
October 31st, 2011
9:06 pm
Mr_B …you said “intellegent” twice. I don’t normally point petty thijngs out like this, but you’re a teacher. It’s intelligent.
The twice-typed mistakes on the same (and very common) word sort of uncovers that “i teach for a living” thing….
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
9:06 pm
…..humor intended
But not successful.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
9:07 pm
trust me, i’m laughing…..
Tessa
October 31st, 2011
9:08 pm
Keep Up, sexual harassment is serious enough to pursue in court. A financial settlement satisfies personal needs, not justice.
Fast and Furious Spending
October 31st, 2011
9:08 pm
Jay,
Wanted to correct a sentence. Corrections/additions are in de-italicized:
“Any conservative candidate for national office with such allegations in his or her past should expect them to become public at some point and should be ready to deal with them. It’s just a fact of life in modern politics.”
Once he was campaigning, the notion that Obama never listened to Jeremiah Wright, nor knew Bill Ayers was taken hook, line and sinker by the brook-trout-media. Since he has been president, he’s been asked what, one question about Fast and Furious in person? He seems to skate past all culpability for the economy. Regarding Bush, a phony trumped-up report on Bush’s national guard attendance was pushed till the end, and the accusations of war crimes or “truthers,” kooky though they are endure to this day. In Clinton’s case, the national media totally ignored the obvious White House smut of the commander in chief’s commander, and it was not until a rag, National Enquirer broke the story that it became news at all. It was not until the stained blue-souvenir dress than the media began following it and finally took allegations of Clinton’s serial philandering seriously.
Until firm proof emerges–far more proof is required than the media has ignored in the case of Obama and Clinton–Cain is THE man. I’m not responding at all to these stupid yipping dogs of the media, like you, Jay. Somehow you’re trained to stay silent as a graveyard when, as Robert Hays say, “the foot’s on the other hand.”
This election is as much about the media’s lies, flack and misdirection as it is about candidates, Jay Bookman. I doubt very much that your paper can endure, and I wonder how long the Cox family will continue to lose money on such an awful, biased and unfair enterprise and the ajc.
Rather than renew my subscription, which is up now, I’m sending an equal dollar amount to Herman Cain.
Mr_B
October 31st, 2011
9:09 pm
Matthew@ 9:01
Not afraid, just got one already.
independent thinker
October 31st, 2011
9:10 pm
Herman is emminently qualified to lead the Clarence Thomas wing of the Republican Party. I bet he even found a pubic hair in his Coke.
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
9:11 pm
Enter your comments here
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
9:12 pm
“I bet he even found a pubic hair in his Coke.”
Liberal mentality. The prosecution rests its case.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
9:12 pm
**Regarding Bush, a phony trumped-up report on Bush’s national guard attendance was pushed till the end**
I wonder why? Maybe because the duty was phony. It could have been dis-proven so easily by checking the log books, he was not there, fact…
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
9:12 pm
Billy Bob, there will be no humor here.
Except Kamchak’s “fixing one’s sentences”…
“there fixed it for you” bitchez!
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
9:12 pm
I doubt very much that your paper can endure, and I wonder how long the Cox family will continue to lose money on such an awful, biased and unfair enterprise and the ajc.
If I had a ha’penny for every time that sentiment has been expressed here….
Mr_B
October 31st, 2011
9:13 pm
Drac: Sure it is: it doesn’t talk. But then you probably spend more daylight hours in contact with it than I do.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:13 pm
Really tessa…. you mean people bring these claims in court too? Why they never have damages like a lost job or other actual financial damages? There is never any criminal sanction for extreme forms? The accused is never terminated? All of that is part of justice.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
9:14 pm
Enter your comments anywhere elsebut here
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
9:14 pm
“Some of the dirt-dumbest folks I’ve ever met have been white folks.”
Hey! you know what? I resent that remark!
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
9:14 pm
where?
Fast and Furious Spending
October 31st, 2011
9:15 pm
Jay,
And while we’re at it, the bar to be President has been permanantly lowered by Barack Obama and Colin Powell. Powell, you remember said that if Obama can run a successful campaign then that made him qualified. Never mind that it was the first thing Obama himself had ever “run”. In truth, Obama floated along the whole way of the campaing on a friendly current of media coverage, and speeches full of vague pap, pathetic bromides and reverb.
If Cain can run a successful campaing swimming upstream against the media deluge of bad press, then I’d say he’s far more well qualified than Obama, and that is to say nothing even about Cain’s very significant leadership capabilities, his best-in-class business experience and his own talent for speeking and inspiring.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
9:15 pm
very nice mbetty…….
Mick
October 31st, 2011
9:16 pm
You cons are just far out crazy, man….like lit up over some cain..its terrible aHHHHHHH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0thH3qnHTbI
Fast and Furious Spending
October 31st, 2011
9:18 pm
kamchak,
There aren’t enough people posting here for you to make much money Kamchak, and I say that maybe what, once a week, at most?
Yeah, you could add twenty cents at the end of the year and go buy yourself half a coke.
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
9:18 pm
no mick. the libs are lit up over cain and glued to the Faux News.
Punked…
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:19 pm
It looks like the conned are really running scared tonight. Boo!
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
9:20 pm
Earth to Fright-Wing, Earth to Fright-Wing! Come in! Fright-Wing! Herman Cain has about as much chance of winning the Presidency as a snowball in h – e – double hockey sticks! Get over it!
Try to groom Willard! You are odds are better that way!
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:20 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
What points were you making? You started off the day telling an obvious lie about me and it has gotten worse all day. And here you are again despirately trying to best me and on your best day in your life, it will never happen because when it comes down to it, you don’t have the education or intelligence to best my dog.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
9:22 pm
betty
No way, the cons are in defcon 4 meltdown. Al gore was accused of inventing the internets but herman cain is a self admitted sexual harasser who had to pay to make go away, he really should go on O’reilly, they could talk amongst themselves….
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
9:24 pm
Yawn. Time for me mid evening nap. Had a big breakky with a half dozen little kids with elevated sugar levels
Sugar crash, but sweet yummy type A blood is my favorite. Out
Fast and Furious Spending
October 31st, 2011
9:25 pm
Sooth,
Hearing that from such a witless liberal, that Cain has no chance, makes me encouraged. We’re on to something with Cain, and the fact that you liberals go through contortions and endless catharsis on Cain’s “disqualfying” attributes makes me all the more encouraged to help conservatives (to borrow a sports analogy) grab the football and ram it down your damn (to borrow a word from Bookman) throats.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
9:25 pm
What’s a “despirate”?
bman
October 31st, 2011
9:25 pm
Sooth …for once, I agree with you. I do like Herman Cain, but not for President. I don’t believe he ever had a chance to win.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
9:26 pm
sooth,
that may be ,as time will tell, but he will absolutely win over huge masses of the public and lead them towards conservatism……….that is one of the left’s biggest worries….and rightly so.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:26 pm
Awww….. poor GLL, Jay won’t play with him because GLL is in his own nonsense world so now he wants to play bully child….. its a clucked up world for you GLL.
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
9:27 pm
Yep, Soothsayer’s chillin on Fox News.
Taxpayer’s opened up his beer trucks for the kids
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
9:27 pm
We’re on to something with Cain…
Good, go with that.
Mr_B
October 31st, 2011
9:28 pm
Bman: Guilty as charged. I will deduct 2points from by score for failure to adequately proofread my work.
In my defense, however, standardized spelling is a comparative recent developement in the English language. Benjamin Franklin believed that any educated person should be able to spell any word at least six different ways. I often use my problems with spelling (I wouldn’t survive very long without spell-check, which I don’t have on this browser) as an example of irony in my classes.
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
9:28 pm
to the trick or treaters…watch the Shining or Nightmare on Elm street tonight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtR6IrvxeFs
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
9:30 pm
“We’re on to something with Cain, and the fact that you liberals go through contortions and endless catharsis on Cain’s “disqualfying” attributes makes me all the more encouraged to help conservatives (to borrow a sports analogy) grab the football and ram it down your damn (to borrow a word from Bookman) throats.”
Don’t stop believing!
josef
October 31st, 2011
9:32 pm
Candy just about all gone…front lights out…another wonderful day in the neighborhood…
And GLL
You respond to what? You’re the dog t*rd spouting that vicious lie about Soros and na zis…you have no shame and even less sense…and did you respond when challenged? H3ll no! You disgust me with that and that’s not a verb I use freely…but you do…you’re not worth the powder it would take to blow you to h3ll and gone…
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:32 pm
What’s a “despirate”?
A french pirate?
Hey moonbat,
Beer trucks! I think you must have me confused with another. I’m merely a consumer of what ales ya.
bman
October 31st, 2011
9:32 pm
Mr_B … I believe you. My best friend of 22 years (and the most intelligent human i know) has 4 degrees (yes/4) and he “spales” like a caveman
: )
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
9:34 pm
to the trick or treaters…watch the Shining or Nightmare on Elm street tonight
Can’t I just drive red-hot railroad spikes through my eyes instead?
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
9:35 pm
We’re onto something with Cain!
We’re onto something with Newt!
We’re onto something with Sarah!
We’re onto something with Donald!
We’re onto something with Michele!
We’re onto something with Reek!
We’re onto something with . . . hmmmm . . . let me see . . .?
josef
October 31st, 2011
9:35 pm
Mr B
Shalom…Granny always told me to never go correcting someone else’s grammar and spelling because sure as you do, you’ll make an error yourself..and truth is, every time I have done it here in jest…sure enough…
bman
October 31st, 2011
9:36 pm
Herman Cain is as qualified as Obama for the title of President. I’m not sure what the qualifications are to be President, but I am sure that I could pick 2 people out of my lunch crowd on any-given-day that would be better.
josef
October 31st, 2011
9:37 pm
A despirate? Wouldn’t that be someone who’s had his pirate removed?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:37 pm
josef…. your response was much better than mine….tip of the hat!
Mick
October 31st, 2011
9:38 pm
josef@9:32
Why don’t you tell us how your really feel?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaPpm8Q8NmA
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
9:38 pm
How do you know that this is not a story leaked from the Perry, Romney, Gingrich camps
I don’t know if anyone else mentioned this, but seriously–what would be Obama’s (or any prominent elected Democrat’s) motivation to leak such info at this time? Cain’s polling eight points or so behind Obama in head to head matchups.
If I were a member of team Obama and I had this information, I’d keep a lid on it, hoping Mittens would pick Cain as a running mate.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
9:40 pm
stands
Shhhhhhhhh…don’t give it away, we’re having too much fun watching the con implosion…boy is this great…
BRW
October 31st, 2011
9:41 pm
Apparently the GOP doesn’t even believe their own candidates are smart enough to have done this to CoCain. Blame it on the Elitist I say!
Jm
October 31st, 2011
9:41 pm
Despirate: (n) a very angry despot
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
9:41 pm
Prediction: (you heard it here first) Cain will be the next souffle to fall in the oven. Just like Donald, Sarah, Michele, Noot, and Little Reeky!
bman
October 31st, 2011
9:42 pm
“hoping Mittens would pick Cain as a running mate”
Would you hope that he picked Chris Christie? Would that choice all but wrap it up for Obama/Biden you think?
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
9:44 pm
AARP is awesome. They’ve been supporting my blood sucking habits for the last 80 years.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
9:44 pm
“Apparently the GOP doesn’t even believe their own candidates are smart enough to have done this to CoCain. Blame it on the Elitist I say!”
Ain’t nobody never said you got to be smart to be a GOP persident! Why! just at the last GOP persident! Nobody done ever said he was smart!
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
9:44 pm
cain’s unapologetic conservatism is what the public(repubs and independents and moderate dems) finds so appealing……and it’s because people sense this guy is real and not the typical dem/repub politician and they know that he is out there fighting for the return of the greatness of and the return of the moral authority that our country once had based on honesty and hard work and integrity and helping our neighbor who needs it……that is what cain has going for him and this is quite frightening for the left and in their eyes…..let the character assassinations begin! Here is the rub libs….
what is the left’s alternative view……obama out there dividing the masses, fomenting class warfare and pitting one class against another, and telling his guys to bring a gun if their opponent has a knife…….what the left fails to see is that every time hussein is out on the stump spewing this negativity, it is conversely helping his opponents……the same thing i have mentioned on this blog numerous times…….at some point you libs should listen or you will go(in 2 short years) from running everything in dc, to running bingo night at the local elk lodge…..quite enlightening eh?
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:45 pm
Such a wunnerful show of support from the conned for Cain tonight. The poor guy could probably use a little cash too though. Come on now, send the guy some money so hopefully he can afford to treat his volunteers to something better than Dominos next time.
Fast and Furious Spending
October 31st, 2011
9:46 pm
For all the libs. This news below: it’s going to get far far worse for you before it gets any better.
Obama is becoming irrelevant. Let’s hope none of you, and none of the media figures this out before election 2012. All of you can go down with “hope and change” together then.
No one knows who Herman Cain is, and he’s beating Obama off-and-on. We, as a people, aren’t policy wonks, but more than half of us want healthcare repealed.
Obama is dried, baked bread. We’re just waiting for the toaster to pop.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/october_2011/cain_43_obama_41
http://www.cnsnews.com/node/52602
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/generic_presidential_ballot/october_2011/generic_republican_47_obama_43
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/october_2011/election_2012_obama_44_cain_38
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:46 pm
“Anonymous” sources have accused Herman Cain……
Aaaaaand then I stopped reading.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
9:46 pm
Well. after this evening, I am more concerned for our youth than ever.
What kind of message are we sending them?
That even at eight years old, they don’t have to work hard, but can just mooch off the job creators and conservative winners in this land?
Next thing you know they’ll be in that never-bathed, commie, never had a job OWS crowd…
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
9:47 pm
Bman
Chris Christie has too many lipids for my liking
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
9:48 pm
“Can’t I just drive red-hot railroad spikes through my eyes instead?”
Sure Hamchack,
just keep reading the blog.
St Simons - we're on Island time
October 31st, 2011
9:49 pm
oh yeah, this is soooo a Republican hatchet job
much better coordination than us Democrats could pull off.
Certainly not us, he’s our “oh please nominate him” candidate
my money’s on the Country Club Republicans
but it smells a little like the Rick, too
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
9:49 pm
Jam-man! Ola! Glad you’re here!
Mick
October 31st, 2011
9:49 pm
billyb
Man you are on fire tonight, jonesing on some cain baby, more, more, then he too can become the neo messiah….
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
9:49 pm
Happy Halloweenie everyone!!
Special for moonbat betty:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JibSQCk3tW4&feature=related
Fast and Furious Spending
October 31st, 2011
9:50 pm
Specifically, look at consumer confidence and the presidential differential between approve and disapprove for Obama.
Then, let’s really see this next year how many scared little mice running for office in Washington want Obama to come and help them campaign. There won’t be many at all.
In other words, warm up the Canadian busses for trips to more under-full high schools and teacher conferences to hear generic complaining about Republicans and the rich.
He’s a zero and that’s exactly what he has.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
9:50 pm
My the dudgeon has grown high hereabouts…. :>)
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:53 pm
josef
Congrats. you pleased the creepy little stalker boy.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:54 pm
Oh! THAT Despirate.
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
9:55 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfQbkFp16cw
Mr_B
October 31st, 2011
9:56 pm
Wiedersehen, alles….
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
9:56 pm
OK, Halloweenie music it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzR9bhei_o
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:57 pm
LiberalleftyLarry- Don’t do it Doomy. Don’t pull out the deck of cards.
Doomy- I gotta do it Larry. Gotta expose that kook left hypocrisy. Starts with the most dreaded card of all. The Bill Clinton Monica Lewinsky card. Boo-yah! The Monica card! Blue dresses!
Liberal Lefty Larry- Oh no you didn’t Doomy.
Doomy- Oh yes I did. Now I’m gonna pull another one! The Juanita Broderick woman that Clinton raped card! The same woman that the NOW president said was credible. Oh don’t you know the libs is hurtin now.
LiberallleftyLarry- Doomy. Just don’t go pullin the hat trick.
Doomy- I gotta do it. Here we go. The trifecta! The Gennifer Flowers card! That’s right. The same woman who he got hired for a state job after he fired a young black woman and gave the job to Gennifer.
LiberalleftyLarry- Doomy. You’re killin us. Stop it I beg you.
Doomy- Sorry Larry but I’m just getting warmed up. Oh yeah. The Kathleen Willey card! You know! The woman who said Clinton harassed and tried to force himself on!
LiberalleftyLarry- Stop it. I can’t take any more Doomy.
Doomy- I gotta do one last one. Drumroll please. Uh-oh. The dreaded Paula Jones card! You know. The one that Clinton lied about in grand jury testimony and was convicted of perjury and was subsequently disbarred for. The one who got him in so much trouble that when he was rattled in a deposition he famously asked “What is the definition of is?”. Ha! Can a lib on here tonight please stand up and answer the question? What is the definition of is??? Inquiring conservative minds want to know!
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
9:58 pm
Teri Garr (Close Encounters of the Third Kind) was so – OOO! hot! Marty Feldman is inimitable as Igor. Total nuttiness!
josef
October 31st, 2011
9:58 pm
Mr B
Be careful with the German…you’re liable to get called a na zi!
GLL
And your response to what I said about you and that Soros lie? And you’ve got the chutzpah to call someone else a liar?
Mick
October 31st, 2011
9:59 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqVbOSEsJNo
Fast and Furious Spending
October 31st, 2011
9:59 pm
stands,
Because Obama is toast. Everyone knows it. The reasons are two I think.
First, democrats can not have a prominent black defection off the liberal plantation. Blacks are democrats, period, end of story. Any runaway slaves must be dealt with harshly, if not lynched. If Herman Cain were the candidate running against Obama, not only would Obama lose, but so would bhe obligation for blacks to vote democrat.
Second, Romney is far less likely to repeal liberal legislation and is far far far more friendly to global warming nuts than Cain or most of the others. Eco-warriors for Romney? Yes. If nominated, there is good reason for Romney to slip back into his former habits of acting on behalf of critters instead of people.
http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/201109/carlpope.aspx
The Democrat party actually has lots of self-interest in helping to pick the next President, which will be a Republican, and which will take office in January 2013.
Hermanator
October 31st, 2011
10:00 pm
Boo! Sorry I scare libs. Just havin some fun on Halloween.
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:01 pm
Some rockin’ Bach there, Jam.
Back at ya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6rDWqjnW7w&feature=related
Fast and Furious Spending
October 31st, 2011
10:02 pm
Goodnight Mr. Bookman,
Please go to bed now so that you can rise at 4:00am and plagiarize someone else’s liberal commentary again. Post it on your website early enough that it seems like your own original thinking instead of leftist talking points.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:02 pm
Jam-man: hard to believe he wrote that on theory since he was deaf! Unbelievable!
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:02 pm
Everyone knows it
Who gave you the authority to speak for “everyone”?
Are all your arguments so lame that you have to invoke a unanimous consent that you don’t have?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:03 pm
Mick,
These guys are just men like me and you, no messiahs running for prez…..I haven’t picked my horse yet, but will absolutely drop some knowledge on this blog in a clear, concise, and grammatically correct way….that’s for you kam…..just giving the libs here some honest insight they normally don’t get or see…..my guess is some on here won’t admit that they actually agree with me some of the time…..i’m not here to change minds though just want to give my conservative 2 cents, or based on my family construction business the last couple of years, my 2 pesos!!!!!
Jay
October 31st, 2011
10:03 pm
Deep-seated anger is such an attractive emotion, don’t you think?
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
10:03 pm
Sooth, Kayaker, GLL, I’m back in the building now.
“So what do you support? Is Capitalism bad? Does it need to be replaced? I won my home and have no real bills. So do you get part of what I have worked for? Please. tell us how you want things to be.”
I’m not sure about prize winnings, I’d have to think about that one. But on matters of top earning tax brackets and capital gains, I’ve expressed my views on these pages numerous times. There is no reason whatsoever for anyone “earning” over several million dollars a year to pocket those gains. That’s why post-war top tax rates of 90% were perfectly reasonable and sound policy. It prevents hoarding and sets a “ceiling” to obscene profits. And don’t ask me how I come off calling something “obscene”. Let’s just say that when you have massive poverty and slums, significant infant mortality, and large parts of the nation unable to afford basic health insurance, there is NO reason for someone to be pocketing investment gains in the multiples of millions (even if the person in question is “managing” said funds). We determine how much high earners get to “keep” of their sweepstakes gains by looking at the conditions of the society as a whole. Public workers in cities and locales being laid off means no million plus bonuses for Hankie (Paulsen that is). Not in my just society, that is.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
10:04 pm
“dudgeon”
I had to look that one up. Jay, keep dropping obscure words if you will. I dig em…….
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjIXwkX1e48&feature=relmfu
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:05 pm
URGENT MESSAGE TO FRIGHT-WING POSTERS: You’ll find no waiting over at Wingnut’s blog. Not to mention the “mutual admiration society” that you so desire.
We understand your disenchantment with the despicable “lefties” here at old Bookman’s blog and believe me, I understand. Therefore suffer no more. Besides, Kyle needs the posts on his pathetic blog.
Just sayin . . .
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:06 pm
I completely support deep seated anger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI2uuSYHAfs
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:06 pm
josef
I stand by what I said about Soros. Saying that he was 14 means nothing. He has been a slime ball his entire life and how you libs can protect him is beyond me. He should be in prison with Madolf.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:06 pm
Has anybody played this for Hallowe’en yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txo06c1k9sk&feature=related
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:07 pm
More scary sh8t for All Hallows Eve…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:09 pm
Who is Madolf?
Gandolf’s younger brother?
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:10 pm
GLL
You’re evil is astounding! You know absolutely nothing about the actual events you’re referring to…I do…and even if I weren’t familiar down to the day and hour with events in Hungary following March 19, 1944 and the figures involved, I would know better than to repeat that d*mnable lie…may you rot in h3ll fire eternal for doing it…stand by it all you want to…I just don’t want to be in line behind you on judgement day while you try and weasel out of it…
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:11 pm
josef & Jam-man: that’s some scary shee – uht! I had to pull the covers over my head!
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:11 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
I own my house. I didn’t win it.
So you want to limit a person’s achivements. What gives you the right to do that?
And how would it work? If a person makes more than what you dictate, that person should go to the ghetto and give the excessive profits to poor people? Is that it?
Or does the government control it?
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
10:12 pm
I have no deep seated anger. Only love for my fine cuisine options….
Liberals taste better than conservatives. Conservatives are so tough while liberals are tender and juicy. I might even go so far as to say…. Soft.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:12 pm
How excellent, josef beat me with the Mussorgsky.
I saw the ASO do it some years back and it was absolutely captivating.
And gentlemen, do not feed the trolls, even if they are older than 14…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92HjH1GG3ro
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:12 pm
ZamVet
Beat ya to it!
K’chak
I don’t know who Madlof is, but I do know a Mad Olaf!
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:12 pm
josef @ 10:06 = Jam @ 10:07. What was that about insane minds thinking alike??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yA2i60AVIw&feature=related
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
10:13 pm
“stand by it all you want to”
He’s not “standing by it”, merely hiding behind it
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:13 pm
The democrat’s smear machine is running high on all cylinders. Hey all of you democrats what about you favorite president Bill Clinton. He not only harassed women but he assaulted them. No comments on that. Hell Bill Clinton was the mascot for sexual harassment. As for Obama no hes your average black racist bigot commie. Isn’t thats so Kamchak and josef.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:14 pm
josef
tell that to the people in England and France that the piece of crap caused to lose their life savings, josef.
And please, a little more emotion. If there’s one thing I respect, its yet another hysterical liberal saying that I’m evil and should rot in hell.
that’s definitely what we need in this country. More people like you that goes all to hell over another person’s opinion.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:16 pm
Oh, yes, GLL…you will note that I am no fan of Soros and have called him a slimeball on more than one occasion…but that’s a completely different issue…have you been a fr*kken lying jacka33 your life long? I don’t think so…
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:16 pm
It’ close to midnight . . .
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:17 pm
josef
Panties in a wad tonight josef?
Not my fault.
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
10:17 pm
I’m throwing a party. All are invited. Dinner will be great. Unless you’re vegan.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
10:17 pm
“In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Cain has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.”
Jay ………. are you talking about Cain or Obama ?
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:18 pm
bruno
Not to die but to be reborn away from the land so battered and torn-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8-Y-fIbqM
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
10:18 pm
Oh. And red is obviously the preferred color for attire
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:19 pm
Watching Herman speak and tell his version. Aint no doubt about it. The Demorat smear machine is going to backfire big time on this one. The folks at politico with their “anonymous” sources gotta be feeling really stupid right about now.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyknBTm_YyM
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
10:19 pm
Dracula…your dinner party sucks!
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:20 pm
GLL
Well, if there is a G-d of Wrath and a Day of Judgement…
And like I said, you don’t know the first d*mned thing about that time and place or the people involved…emotional? You bet you, I am…this is one that is so evil in nature that all I can do is react emotionally—
bman
October 31st, 2011
10:20 pm
Doom….do you like Cain for President?
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
For Dracula:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfso3CiHwN8
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
Hey B, the Friday night sing-a-longs just ain’t the same without ya.
Killer Mac. Arguably more tasty than the hyper-commercially successful version of that band.
Kam, awesome choice.
Haven’t heard that one in a long time.
Now friends, don’t wait!
Let’s play our black music,
for fate crushes the strong—
everyone despair with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkgcUEGEZv4&feature=fvst
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
josef, George Soros is a evil man and you damn well know it. To protect and hide this man’s crimes is in it’s self a crime aganist humanity. Someone with your education should know better. Not to mention your religion. Where’s your honest and dignity? Have you no shame? This man should have been tired for war crimes. He’s makes a king’s fortune on people’s pain and loses. You people on the left have no morals anymore.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:25 pm
GLL
Panties in a wad? Not particularly…I’m in a pretty good mood…got to spend some time with the innocents and share in their joy…means a lot to me…you’re just a burr under my saddle who happens to merit my rage, as well as that of any other human being with a modicum of decency…
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:26 pm
doom
Democratic smear machine??? What’s their motive there buckaroo? Why not look inward to your own beloved party for this timely revelation. It’s very karl rovian if you ask me….
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:28 pm
Those years when I found rock to be a joke of it’s former glory, I turned back almost exclusively to classical music. (With a smattering of Celtic and reggae thrown in for good measure!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sJE0kI6loU&feature=related
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:28 pm
TruthBe
Say what? You’re as full of sh*t as a Christmas turkey…and it is my education and my religion which bring me to the defense of a 14 year old boy…I make no pretense of defending the grown man…you, too, have no idea what you’re talking about vis a vis events in Hungary post March 19, 1944…if you did you would know that evil canard simply was impossible…
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
10:28 pm
Good little liberal: “So you want to limit a person’s achivements.”
Pocketing billions playing money alchemy while teachers and public workers are being laid off, not to mention thousands of people unemployed to the point of being unemployable, is hardly what I’d call an “achievement”.
“What gives you the right to do that?”
I have a vision of justice – which evidently hedge fund barons like John Paulson do not, judging by their behavior.
“And how would it work?”
Easy. Eliminate capital gains “loopholes” and define ALL income as the income that it is. And above a certain level, tax the hell out of it, as in 90%.
“If a person makes more than what you dictate, that person should go to the ghetto and give the excessive profits to poor people? Is that it?”
No. They should pay larger and larger percentages of their income to help support and sustain the institutions that perform critical functions such as a) improve the education level of the citizenry, b) improve access to health care among the people, c) support a strong infrastructure, and other things that support the commons for the people.
“Or does the government control it?”
Yes. The government — being the representative of the will of the people, as opposed to private interests — should do it, why not?
In a just world charity should be made unnecessary.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:28 pm
Where’s your honest[sic] and dignity? Have you no shame?
All aboard the shame train for a guilt-trip.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:29 pm
Man! ya’ll are playing this sca – a – a – a ry music tonight! I’m outta here! I’m gonna hide under the covers ’til tomorrow! Good night! Or as we Nazis like to say, Gute Nacht!
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:29 pm
Mick, That’s what the democrat’s lamestreet media wants you to believe.
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:30 pm
josef, You have become a ugly spoiled child.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:31 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:31 pm
josef
- -this is one that is so evil in nature that all I can do is react emotionally— – -
I think I have found your problem.
You get onn here and you side with the creepy little internet stalker, you claim that I am a liar and have offered no proof and you say that I am evil and should burn in hell. Calm down, boy. You don’t know me except in your twisted little mind.
Its real easy, isn’t it? You can make up how people are, any way you like, say what ever you want about them and then claim that you are just all emotional.
Typical liberal. I’m supposed to pardon your mental condition because you just can’t control it.
How about no. Grow up and deal with other people.
bman
October 31st, 2011
10:32 pm
Welcome to the occupation …. What happened in your life that took your mind? Do you remember the day it happened? …Seriously though, what’s wrong with you? forpetesakes
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:34 pm
TruthBe
If that’s what separates me from you, then so be it!
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:34 pm
josef, forget those two twisted twits.
They are fiercely ignorant on the matter and fiercely proud of being so.
That certainly never stops them from voicing equally despicable positions on a wide variety of other matters.
Near the very top of my favorite classical pieces…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MiETaBSnc
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:35 pm
This one is from Platinum Black:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg&feature=youtu.be
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:36 pm
GLL
If you buy into that Soros na zi thing, and you by your own statement do, I know more about you than I care to…G-d forbid we’re ever in the same room together…
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:36 pm
However, it is much less plausible that five-figure financial payments were made to each of the two women involved, as Politico reports, and that Cain, as CEO of the National Restaurant Association, knew nothing about such settlements, as he claims.- Jay
Nope. 3 months severance would equal to about 10-12k. From the evidence of what I’m seeing and from what Cain just related these 2 women were paid small nuisance fees to just go away- between 10 and 15k.
Secondly its not that unusual that Cain wouldn’t know the exact settlement. These are small nuisance suits and distractions and are usually just handled by the general counsel. These things happen everyday in corporate America and a CEO has better things to worry about then the exact amount of a small nuisance suit. Your complete lack of experience and knowledge of corporate America and the private sector is really showing here Jay.
That discrepancy could come back to haunt Cain, given that Politico claims to have seen documentation of the payments.- Jay
Kinda funny that these settlements are supposed to be confidential but somehow or another one of these DemoRAT muckrakers seemed to get a hold of this. One things for sure. These Chicago thug pols have nooo problem getting in the sewer. As for politico who cares? Its just an uber left arm of the uber left Washington Post.
Politico reports that it had been attempting to get a response from Cain and his staff for 10 days before publishing its story. Yet despite that long time to prepare, Cain’s campaign has badly botched its reaction- Jay
I dunno. I’m starting to wonder if Herman wanted this to come out so that he could knock it out of the park as the total BS that it is. People know BS when they see it and I’m thinking Cain knows this is going to backfire. Funny thing but his campaign donations are supposedly way up today.Just watching an interview with Cain on this its clear he’s going to come out good on this one.
On foreign policy, for example, Cain has said that a president doesn’t need “to have extensive foreign policy experience- Jay
Looks like Herman was right on this one. If you don’t believe that look at Obama’s total lack of foreign policy experinence coming into office. For Pete’s sake this is a guy who thought Austrians speak Austrian.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports today that Cain’s chief of staff and deputy chief of staff may have used tax-deductible donations from a Wisconsin nonprofit that they ran to help finance Cain’s early campaign, which would be a violation of both tax laws and campaign finance laws.- Jay
I dunno. Seems kinda miniscule compared to say Timothy tax chief Geitner holding a cabinet level position. Compared to that you have really got to be reaching Jay. You have absolutely got to be kidding. You got to be.
In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Obama has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.- Jay
Wow. I only had to change one word, or name actually, to correct Jay’s typo.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:36 pm
truthbe
Paranoid much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz_6jagv_D4
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
10:36 pm
“I’m supposed to pardon your mental condition because you just can’t control it.”
You just don’t recognize control when you see it. What he OUGHT to be calling you would get him thrown out of here. He’s showing quite admirable control.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:37 pm
ZamVet
You and I disagree on a lot from time to time, but on this one you probably better than anyone else on the blog know why I’m in such a twirl…
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5koEs6HAF24
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:38 pm
JamVet, Who ask you? Wasn’t speaking to you. If I wanting you opinion I would have asked you so buss off.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:39 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
THat’s a great visionj. But of course its BS. The government is not going to give the money to poor people. They are going to HAVE to give it to our debtors.
Our schools suck and we spend more money than any other country.
I don’t make billions so I really don’t care. Vote for people that will promise to take all the money they can. And they will. You will never see it and neither will any poor people or schools. Schools are paid for by local governments. So is police and fire. The Fed just buys votes.
I can live with all of this. I’ve worked my entire life and I like what I have. If you want to take money from billionaires give it a shot.
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:39 pm
Mick. No. How about you?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:40 pm
call me a freedom fighter in your ‘just’ society wto………liberalism decays the moral fiber of society and has for centuries since anything goes with liberalism…..liberals are never satisfied and always want to push the envelope…..i love the way that radical libs like you try to corral the ‘moral authority’ to tell other people what is and what isn’t ‘obscene’ or whatever the topic might be…….radical libs have no boundaries so how do you pretend to tell me, a conservative who does have limits of what is right and wrong, what is right and wrong when you continually change what IS right or wrong……..i have a firm foundation while yours is based in quicksand depending on the day and time……draw a line in the sand, keep it there and stand on it with honesty and conviction and then tell me how much of my own money i have a right to keep……until then keep being exposed by me for the spineless nature of your ideology…….liberalism is the easy choice with no repercussions…….this is why you ilk will lose in a landslide next Nov….enjoy lib
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:41 pm
Doggone/GA
I appreciate your input. It has changed my life. Because if there’s one person I want to impress, its you.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:42 pm
If I wanting you opinion I would have asked you so buss off.
You posted in a public forum, sport.
Want a private conversation?
Use a telephone.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:42 pm
josef
Ooooo Internet tough.
I’m laughing josef.
At you. Once again, you know nothing about me and if you did, you would never think that you could take me.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:43 pm
K’chak
@ 10:37
Yeah! That one, too…! Playing on the other screen as I type…thanks….
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:44 pm
truth
H3ll noes, I can see clearly now that the day has gone. You all are in a hissy fit over cain? Sorry, but I still consider him small potatoes and would even go with little caesars over godfathers. Tomorrow will be a better day, I’m sure..
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
10:44 pm
“I appreciate your input. It has changed my life. Because if there’s one person I want to impress, its you”
I think I smell the sulpherous fumes of a badly told untruth.
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:44 pm
Kamchak, Shut up fool.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:45 pm
and yes we have our first ilk warning of the night…..wto you wouldn’t last 20 minutes in a debate with a true conservative like me…..it would be too easy to expose where your vision of this country would lead…..
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
10:45 pm
bman: “Welcome to the occupation …. What happened in your life that took your mind?”
I opened my eyes.
“Do you remember the day it happened? …”
No, I don’t. But it was somewhere in early adulthood, late enough to disprove that stupid bit of Churchillian pseudo-wisdom about being young and liberal and old and conservative. I consider that the most unhelpful thing that’s ever been said on the subject.
“Seriously though, what’s wrong with you? ”
There’s still a chance that the right wing might get away with their disgusting lies and corruption, and as long as that chance is there, I’m motivated.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:46 pm
little caesars over godfathers…..now that’s funny Mick!
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:46 pm
josef
I grew up with the orchestration by Ravel.
I have grown to prefer it in the original piano.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
bman,
I’m not sure that I will vote for Cain. I just know I would vote for anyone except the incompetent that now occupys the white house. I’ve posited many a time that Elmer Fudd would make a better potus than the nojobama. First order of business do no harm to the nation. By that standard alone Obama is an abject failure.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
Doggone/GA
How would you like for me to respond? Do you honestly think that I give a tinkers damn about what you think about me?
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
Mick, Who said I supported Mr.Cain? Besides I like mallow mushroom pizza anyway dude.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
billyb
We are all part of the same hypocrisy, never forget that. You are delusional if you think you possess a higher moral authority. No more sanctimonious pontificating please, its falling on deaf ears…
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
GLL
Internet tough? Not me. I meant every word of it and it’s not a threat, but a promise…and me think I could take you? Well, I’ll put it to you this way, Pombo, I’ve been in many a brawl and I’ve had my a33 whupped plenty of times, so I don’t go predicting outcomes…that’s not a very wise course of action…
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:48 pm
Truthdon’tbe
Red card?
Or yellow?
bman
October 31st, 2011
10:48 pm
“There’s still a chance that the right wing might get away with their disgusting lies and corruption, and as long as that chance is there, I’m motivated.”
Were you part of the Troy Davis Park crowd? Just wondering…
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:49 pm
Mick,
Did you just call me a buckaroo? I aint ever been called a buckaroo before. Lots of other things but not that. Reminds me of when I was early 20s and I saw an old man in his 80s go off in a rage against a friend of mine. He was so dang mad he called him a whippersnapper which I take it meant something heinous back in the day.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:49 pm
josef, given just how loathsome these two have frequently demonstrated they can be, I’m inclined to only make this last observation.
What is particularly disgusting about their insanely and intentionally offbase ‘argument’ about that 14 year old boy is that is driven by one thing and one thing only.
A deep hatred for all things and all people that they deem……….liberal.
That disease defines them, at least with no doubt on this forum, and they will stop at nothing to justify it.
I find their impotent anger pathetic, though laughable.
One of the adults in the neighborhood had the coolest costume on tonight. One that he and his wife made from scratch…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwxc_zLH560
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:49 pm
K’chak
@ 10:46
Me, too…
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
10:50 pm
“How would you like for me to respond?”
that you felt compelled to respond at all is more telling than you maybe realize.
bman
October 31st, 2011
10:51 pm
Doom…ok.
I feel the same way (almost) lol…I just wonder what it is about Cain that people like so much for President.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:51 pm
wto,
the tea party will make sure that both parties no longer get away with the corruption that emanates from the ruling elite in both parties…….EVERY senator up for re-election next year will hear from the conservative majority in Nov…..
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:51 pm
GLL and josef,
Yall simmer on down. Next thing you know someone is gonna get called a buckaroo or a whippersnapper and then all hell is gonna break loose and someone is going to get challenged to a face to face at the northpoint mall starbucks. That’s what the real tough internet guys do. Challenge someone to a hot coffee drinkin contest.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:53 pm
ZamVet
It is pathological…no doubt…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
10:53 pm
the zeus has spoken
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:54 pm
josef
So why is getting your ass kicked supposed to be a threat to me. Sounds like you aren’t very proficient.
The reason why you are getting your ass kicked is because of that fragile emotion. If you can handle yourself, there is little emotion.
But your little internet tough stance is a bit surprising. I won’t tell you what I have done or what I know, but the next time I’m in Atlanta, I’ll be glad to buy you a beer. You know, what men do.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:55 pm
Thulsa
A hot coffee drinking contest, you say? Now that one I KNOW I could win hands down…!
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:56 pm
bman,
I think people relate to Cain because he comes off as a genuinely nice, likeable guy. And also because he is the quintessential American success story. Son of a single mother who grew up to be a CEO and a very successful man. And frankly I think people are tired of politicians like Obama who never had a meaningful day of private sector experience in their lives. They are tired of a professional politician BSer who is good for nothing more than flowery speeches and they want someone who has actually accomplished something more than making great speeches. Herman is for real whereas I think people have caught onto the fact that Obama is just an empty suit bureaucratic BSer who was never qualified for this job to begin with. I have asked numerous times what experience did Obama previously have in an executive position that qualified him to be potus? The answer? Crickets chirping…..
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:57 pm
Thulsa Doom
Hey pal, I am calm. Little josef is going all crazy tonight. And believe it or not, it’s about George Soros. LOL!!
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:58 pm
Doggone/GA
I always try to respond. Its the right thing to do.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:59 pm
GLL
Oh, I’ve kicked a33, too…I’ve got six older brothers and grew up frequenting county line juke joints in Mississippi…and like I said, G-d forbid I ever be in the same room with you or TruthBe…I just don’t a33ume that I’m going to come out on top…
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
11:01 pm
“I always try to respond. Its the right thing to do”
And a response that is little more than a veiled insult is better left unsaid.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:01 pm
josef,
Just dont go ticking me off sir. I’ve downed many a cup of hot joe. Matter of fact I warm my freshly brewed coffee in the microwave I like it so hot. I kinda relaxed that habit a bit though. I read that the Iranians have the highest incidence of throat cancer in the world. Why? Because they smoke them nasty unfiltered mean cigarettes that I call the John Wayne cigs but also because they drink scalding hot tea. Doc tells me that scalding hot tea and coffee will damage the esophagal tissue in your throat and make you susceptible to throat cancer. With that I just may tactfully retreat from a hot coffee drinking contest witcha. I hope yall calm down and dont steal my job of professional needling on the jay bookman blog.
josef
October 31st, 2011
11:02 pm
All right, my Romany Pal (incidentall, don’t know if you know it or not, but our English word “pal” came into the language from the Romany word, pal=friend!), you need to man up here and challenge the conservative lot of liars and frauds on the 14 year old Soros sh*t…they’re giving y’all a bad name…ustase, they are!
Mick
October 31st, 2011
11:02 pm
doom
Same old, same old, he obama berry bad man while herman model 999, he be a berry, berry good man. He made lots of money that must qualify him as a master of the universe. How did obama ever get elected? It was as if the country was smote by a burning bush, who knows?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
11:02 pm
mick,
i’ll put my integrity and moral authority to the test against wto any day and that was my point to him……i don’t have the right to tell him how much he gets to earn any more than he has the right to tell me…..i hear your point….but the fact is that liberal social values are decaying the moral fabric of our society just as it has done in europe. That is a fact……take it or leave it, but it doesn’t change what has happened and is continually happening in this country on a daily basis
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:05 pm
GLL,
Hell I like you and josef so I hate to see yall gitting all riled up against each other. You may both be crowding in on my job of professional jackassery.
Yall be calmer than a Hindu cow and be good.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
11:06 pm
hmmmm… I bet real “men”, you know the manly types, demand to meet in parking lots….you know after they demand a meeting and then get one and then chicken out……
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:10 pm
Mick
Its not that Obama is a bad, evil man. Just that he is incompetent and had zero meaningful private sector experience coming into office. Typical of someone who has a leftist philosophy the man is of the arrogance that he, a bureaucrat of no executive experience, could solve things. And we all see the results.
As for Cain I just think it would be refreshing to see someone who understands the private sector which is what pays the govts bills to begin with and is the golden goose, I would like to see a man who gives a damn about budgets and deficits and who actually has executive experience.
And btw you’re a dang whippersnapper! Take that Mick!
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:11 pm
josef
That’s a real shame. I wouldn’t want to fight you. I don’t claim that I even know you. I just know this character that comes on this blog. Its a shame that you can’t think like that.
I’ve been in very few actual fights. I’ve defended myself quite often in a life of film making in places that I am not always wanted, and playing music, but if I allow it to turn into a fight, I’ve lost.
Like I said, I’ll be glad to buy you a beer and if you can’t control your emotions, I’ll try to walk away.
I’ve been gone for a few weeks and the hysteria seems to have gotten much worse. Conservatives didn’t cause your problems. You voted for the clown. I know its bad and it will get worse. Considering what we are already seeing, this is going to be one nasty campaign.
If you can’t control yourself any better than this, I would suggest you take a few weeks off.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:12 pm
keep up,
Perhaps the man was just terrified of a hot coffee drinkin contest.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
11:13 pm
billyb
I’ll leave it thank you. Life is good, I’ll make the best out of it that I can, for my family and self. You have a convenient whipping boy, makes life easier for you to comprehend, go for it…
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:14 pm
Thulsa Doom
I’m not riled up. Read the posts.
What has been going on here for the past few weeks? These people are crazy. Wanting to fight. Keep up is talkinhg to himself (OK, that’s nothing new) and they are just downright nastier than normal.
Are they just mad because they are seeing their clown becoming more of a bad clown?
bman
October 31st, 2011
11:15 pm
As long as I can remember, the media and left have always associated the GOP with racism. They (media and democrats) turn that card in every election, on every level. Since Cain has gained popularity, the racism charges have all but disappeared. Republicans defending Cain….all of a sudden they aren’t racists. They’re just stupid. Amazing.
I didn’t support Obama and will not support Cain. Herman Cain is a radio talk-show host….he’s going to get some pretty good one-liners in. But, he is exactly the same as Obama as far as having no record to run on. You can’t be attacked or called out on what you don’t have.
The American public elected someone who could cruise through the debates (because he had NO RECORD). Obama is what we all got. This time around, Obama will have a record to defend.
josef
October 31st, 2011
11:16 pm
GLL
i voted for a clown, all right, but it wasn’t McCain or Obama…
And I don’t presuppose to tell you about moviemaking, I know very little of it…and don’t you presuppose to tell me about Soros and events in Hungary at that time…and I wouldn’t have a beer with you under any circumstances…
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:17 pm
you need to man up here and challenge the conservative lot of liars and frauds on the 14 year old Soros sh*t…they’re giving y’all a bad name…ustase, they are!- josef
That does it. Josef took away the Soros card before I ever even got to play it. Dont seem fair seeing as how they still got the Koch brothers card.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
11:17 pm
doom
That rah rah speechifying on behalf of herman cain leaves me no choice but to down grade you to dum head ding a ling. Let me know, when the dream ends….
Time to catch the sandman, party on doom…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
11:18 pm
doom…… perhaps and of losing a bet.
But the Colonel would have just been terrifying for him
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
11:21 pm
josef,
This entire sordid affair by the borderline misanthrope makes me think of that old adage, “Jesus may love you, but the rest of us think you’re an @ssh0le.”
OK, nuff fun at the insane asylum for one evening.
Over and out.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:23 pm
GLL,
I don’t know enough about Soros to intelligibly comment on the man. What I do know is that he heavily funds up to 33 websites and movements that promote liberal causes. I have no problem with that. Free speech and for every Soros there is Koch brothers. I do disagree with one element of the man and that is that he has caused the crash or devaluation of at least one currency if I’m not mistaken. And if that is true then the end result is an immense amount of suffering for any nation that sees its currency under assault. Even the wealthy feel the pain of a devalued currency but the poor much more so. And even then as far as I know there is no law against him betting for or against different currencies. So I’ve no more positive or negative views about the man than many other people until I actually read up on the man.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:27 pm
keep up,
You lost me on the Colonel bit. What up with that?
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:29 pm
josef
- -and I wouldn’t have a beer with you under any circumstances…- -
Sadly, I wouldn’t expect anything more. There’s no one here that I wouldn’t be willing to set down and have a beer with. That’s reality. This is a blog. I wouldn’t expect most liberals on here to be civil in a real situation. That’s just another reason why I’m glad that I’m a Republican. THat’s just the way we are.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:30 pm
Mick,
Damn. I aint ever been called a ding a ling either. Holy Sheet. You are on fire tonight. Now I gotta think up something tastefully tacky to call your azz. Wait. I think I got called a ding a ling when I was a kid or called someone a ding a ling or sexually harassed a little girl by mentioning a ding a ling. Herman wasnt there though so he is in the clear on that one. Night Mick.
josef
October 31st, 2011
11:30 pm
Thulsa
Soros ain’t no saint by a long shot. But in your reading look into that lying cr-p being spread about him as a 14 year old boy, too. Then you’ll know why I get in such a dithering with scum the likes of GLL and TruthBe…
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:33 pm
Thulsa Doom
England and France. He is the worst of the worst. What Madolf did to a few people, he did to two countries. Hundreds of thousands lost everything. And of course there’s the connections between him and an international arms consortium that sells to anyone with gold.
Do you think that the Koch Brothers did anything that even approached that?
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:34 pm
Speaking of clowns John Wayne Gacy was a clown. And not a very nice one at that. I’ve always been suspicious of freaking clowns even before I read about Gacy. I think they are hiding something, No sir. I dont trust em. Anyone else with a clown phobia?
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:36 pm
josef
Pal, the man who offers a beer is not the scum. The hysterical little twit that can’t control his emotions about a man who couldn’t care whether he lives or dies isn’t scum either, but is hardly a man.
Get those emotions under control, boy. Its going to be a long election.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:39 pm
josef,
I will read up on that. I think Ive seen it. Something about him being pro nazi or another or collaborating. Who knows. I just kinda dismissed it because it didnt seem credible to me. I will say though that through his currency assaults he has indeed brought misery to millions of people. Bringing down a national currency is a direct monetary assault on its people and in a currency devaluation the damage and hurt to the poorest of the population cannot be underestimated. On the other hand there is no law against it and I read about the huge currency position he took that initially made his fortune. It was pretty ballsy even if he is someone detestable to most cons.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:43 pm
GLL,
I dont know anything about the Koch brothers either except that they support con causes. I think that like Soros they are in the Wall street businesses of screwing the rest of us. Hee hee. I say that tongue in cheek as a former stockbroker for 7 years.
josef
October 31st, 2011
11:44 pm
GLL
Hysterical and a twit I may be, but little I ain’t…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
11:44 pm
oh oh I know…this is a perfect example of emotions under “control”
Nothing Is Free [aka GLL]
February 17th, 2011
11:39 am
C Tucker
You allow the name jacker to threaten others and post whatever he wants but you ban another poster. take a look at the postings every evening this week. He acts like he owns the blog and you refuse to say anything to him. You have allowed the trash of the forum to reduce your blog to a middle school playground and then you seem surprised.
You have just dipped to the same level as Bookman
Don’t bother banning me. I won’t be back
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:45 pm
Allright. Cant keep my eyes open. yall have a good evening. Tomorrow is another day for heated disagreement.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:49 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
Sorry. That’s not me. Yet another lie.
You should be ashamed, but you are just too dumb to be ashamed.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:49 pm
josef
You are not big on here.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
11:50 pm
How funny GLL, another lie. you can’t even keep your names straight.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:50 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight
And your link don’t work.
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
11:52 pm
josef, Are your threaten me? Be very careful my friend.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:52 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
Paranoid much? Was that even on this blog?
Sounds like you couldn’t get along with yet another poster. Did you stalk him, too?
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:52 pm
TruthBe
josef has had a hard night.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
11:56 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight
Where did you go? I’m waiting for proof that I was some poster named Nothing is Free.
Damn, boy. That’s two huge lies you have told today.
josef
October 31st, 2011
11:57 pm
God fight..
And he ought to know a liar when he sees one…he does look in the mirror…wait I may be wrong. He probably doesn’t get a reflection, being such an expert on things Magyar, he must hail from the area around Cluj.
josef
October 31st, 2011
11:59 pm
TruthBe….
Nope. I don’t make threats.
bman
October 31st, 2011
11:59 pm
before you old-timers get too huffy with each other, let me help you all out. Run out to your mailbox and back- as fast as you can.
Tired? uh huh
moonbat betty
November 1st, 2011
12:00 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzYSfiSxqo0
TruthBe
November 1st, 2011
12:00 am
Beers on the house (ajc).
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
12:01 am
josef
I know that Keep Up is a creepy little liar that thinks all conservatives are the same person. Apparently that post wasn’t even on this blog.
You are keeping really good company there, josef. Maybe you could have a beer with him. . . once he gets old enough to drink.
josef
November 1st, 2011
12:04 am
Bman
It’s not the rout…it’s the one back in shlepping all those AARP flyers that gets me down!
Jefferson
November 1st, 2011
12:07 am
You GOP folks can take up for Cain, but you know he’s not who you like in the race vs Obama.
moonbat betty
November 1st, 2011
12:08 am
Careful, gentlemen.
Earlier, people were challenging each other to vodka drinking contests.
moonbat betty
November 1st, 2011
12:09 am
Jefferson, the only ones getting in a hissy over Cain, are YOU the MOONBATS!
TruthBe
November 1st, 2011
12:12 am
josef, That’s good. And wiser.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
12:13 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
All full of bluster, but when called on his lies, he scurries away.
No big surprise. That’s what he does.
TruthBe
November 1st, 2011
12:15 am
Keeping Up the Fight, Some fight? Or should we call you CT for short?
TruthBe
November 1st, 2011
12:16 am
Goodnite All.
josef
November 1st, 2011
12:18 am
TruthBe
That’s one I learned a long time ago the hard way…
moonbat betty
November 1st, 2011
12:21 am
Got Tebowed?
ken
November 1st, 2011
12:26 am
– In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Obama has proved himself unqualified for the office that he holds. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.
Fast and Furious Spending
November 1st, 2011
12:28 am
Jay,
Well-paid liberal columnists without a ounce of fairness, clumsily wielding their editorial blunderbuss in such an ostensibly partisan way are very much less attractive, don’t you think?
The only screed worse than yours, in lack of subtlety, brevity, accuracy and analysis (now that Ms. Tucker is no more) is Luckovich.
Jefferson
November 1st, 2011
12:29 am
Direct hit. ha.
Fast and Furious Spending
November 1st, 2011
12:36 am
ken,
And let’s not forget that his people about whom we were told were really crucial to the fine functioning of America (Amerika, as liberals might say), were either commies (Van Jones) or ridiculously incompetent and corrupt (Geithner). Others too smart to have stuck in and endured Obama’s nonsense (Summers) are history, and yet even their critical commentary on the lack of adult supervision in Washington doesn’t make as much news as a fiction about Herman Cain perhaps flipping someone the bird in jest.
Mr Summers, who served in the Clinton administration, is then quoted as telling a rival: “We’re home alone. There’s no adult in charge. Clinton would never have made these mistakes.
Jackson Baer
November 1st, 2011
1:36 am
Make way for Ron Paul in 2012, even if he has to run as a third party candidate…
http://www.whatthehellbook.com/the-book/
captguitarman
November 1st, 2011
3:11 am
Yikes! Gazillions of comments. You struck a nerve here, Jay. No one will read this far, but what the heck. Cain and his staff screwed up. It goes directly to his competence (not political competence, just his plain old common sense competence, and that of his staff) that they were not prepared for the inevitable.
It is a constant amazement to me that these guys are never ready (how many times does this have to happen before they read the memo?) when these skeletons emerge from their closets . . . and that they think they can delay, hedge, dodge, obfuscate, etc. with half truths and half facts and fuzzy recollections and get away with it? And it crosses all party lines. There must be a certain arrogance necessary to run for public office, Pub or Dem, especially high public office, that causes these guys to think that they will be the one who finally out runs the hound dogs. If Cool Hand Luke couldn’t do it, no one can do it.
Cain and his crew should have been ready for this, and if it costs him his momentum and chance to move up the Pub food chain, then so be it. I’m not a politician, but I would have had enough sense to tell everyone on staff early on . . . once upon a time in my life, this happened. What should we do when (not if, but when) it comes out? Relying on confidentiality agreements in cases like this shows a naievte that is a concern. They blew it by not having a cogent, hard hitting response plan already in place, and Cain is paying the price now in a big way.
As to the claims, if you don’t know that little or no evidence is necessary to make such claims, or that lawyers make huge money off of the nuisance value of such claims, or that a monetary settlement has nothing to do with whether or not a claim is valid, or has no validity whatsoever, especially in embarrassing sexual harrassment cases, then you have not been paying attention. In the “He said/she said” dynamic, only what “she said” matters. It’s not right or fair, but that is the way things are. Cain needs to TELL IT ALL . . . ALL OF IT, just as soon as he can (he should already have done that, as noted, but water under the bridge now) ASAP. If the claims were not valid, as Cain claims, a settlement is usually a quick way to dispose of the matter and get the women, who, having been found out, are anxious to leave anyway, quickly out of the picture. But, the hemming and hawing has had it’s impact, even if their claims were baseless. When will these guys ever learn? It will come out, no matter how carefully it has been hidden. Be ready for it.
AARP aka Dracula
November 1st, 2011
5:10 am
‘Generational War’ Seen as Lawmakers Stall on Deficit Accord
Oct. 31 (Bloomberg) — The elderly will likely be the most vulnerable Americans in Washington’s future budget fights. Right now, their grandchildren may be among the biggest casualties.
With Democrats and the 37 million-member AARP seniors’ lobby working to protect Medicare and Social Security, and Republicans opposing tax increases to curb the deficit, programs for young people may be disproportionate targets if negotiators can’t reach a budget deal and automatic spending cuts kick in.
‘Generational War’ Seen as Lawmakers Stall
That’s sparking concern that lawmakers are sacrificing the U.S.’s future investment in children, education, infrastructure and other programs.
“I don’t think Congress on either end understands the consequence of their inaction,” said James Jones, an Oklahoma Democrat and former House Budget Committee chairman who is a board member of the bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. “You’re creating generational war.”
‘Generational War’ Looms as Lawmakers Stall on Deficit Accor
Title 1 funding for low-income students, the Head Start health and nutrition program, Child Welfare Services, and vaccines are among items likely to be hit by the automatic cuts if a congressional panel can’t agree on a debt-reduction package of at least $1.2 trillion. That’s according to a study by the nonpartisan Federal Funds Information for States, which analyzes the impact of federal policy on state budgets and is affiliated with the National Governors Association.
Social Security and Medicare, the major entitlement programs for the elderly that together cost more than $1 trillion a year and account for about a third of the budget, are exempt from the automatic cuts, which would be split between defense and domestic programs.
Less Clout
One reason child health and education programs are at risk is that those advocating for young people, many from low-income or impoverished homes, lack the political clout that the elderly or defense contractors have.
AARP, the largest group representing senior citizens, spent $9.7 million on lobbying during the first six months of this year, and the defense industry spent $68 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a Washington-based research group. The Children’s Defense Fund, one of the largest child advocacy groups, spent $48,245 during all of last year.
Also, Congress appropriates many programs for children on a discretionary, annual basis, making them an easier mark than the mandatory entitlement spending that automatically grows as the retiree population increases. In 2011, the share of federal spending dedicated to children will fall to 8.4 percent, from 9.2 percent in 2010, according to a report by First Focus, a Washington-based group that concentrates on children’s issues.
Just a Preview
The new round of spending cuts would merely be a preview of what’s in store for programs serving future generations if Republicans continue to block tax increases and Democrats won’t agree to reduce benefits for future retirees, said Bob Bixby, head of the nonpartisan Concord Coalition, which presses for debt reduction.
“You’ve got a ‘hell no’ to benefit cuts and ‘hell no’ to tax increases, and those are two very powerful political constituencies,” said Bixby. AARP is “squeezing the heck out of the future” and “programs for kids,” he said.
David Certner, AARP legislative policy director, disagreed, saying the group is also looking to the years ahead.
“Our members and all older Americans depend on their hard- earned Medicare and Social Security benefits, and want these vital programs to be strong now and for future generations,” he said in a statement. “But as long as members of Congress continue to target seniors and future retirees as if they were mere line items in a budget, we can’t have a conversation about how to strengthen Medicare and Social Security.”
Income Disparity
Representative Jan Schakowsky, an Illinois Democrat, rejected the notion that generational tensions are growing.
“We haven’t seen any blaming of the older generation for being too greedy,” she said. “If there’s any blame people feel, it’s the disparity right now between ordinary Americans and the very wealthy.”
To be sure, the automatic spending reductions also would exempt the Medicaid health-insurance program for the poor, half of whose recipients are children. And a new Congress can short- circuit the cuts before they take effect.
Still, the outlook for a major accord from the supercommittee is dim as Democrats and Republicans harden their resistance to sweeping changes to taxes and entitlement benefits. And that gridlock increases the likelihood the so- called automatic trigger will take effect.
No Fingerprints
“Given that we’re already in the election season, doing something to hurt the elderly is something neither political party wants its fingerprints on,” said Ron Pollack, director of Families USA, which advocates for affordable health care.
As a result, the U.S. Department of Education may face about $3.5 billion in spending reductions, according to the study by Federal Funds Information for States, which is also linked to the National Conference of State Legislatures. That may include a cut of about $1.3 billion in Title 1 funding.
The Head Start program could see as much as $700 million in cuts, a 9-percentage-point drop, according to the Federal Funds report. Child welfare services and child-care and development block grants would also be targets, it said.
“If the federal government is cutting or not increasing, the states aren’t going to pick it up,” said Steve Clermont, policy director for the Every Child Matters Education Fund in Washington.
Education Budget
For the fiscal year that began July 1, at least 23 states enacted deep cuts in pre-kindergarten and/or K-12 spending and at least 25 are doing so in higher education, according to the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities in Washington. Florida’s reductions in state university funding have led to tuition increases of 15 percent for the new school year, bringing the total rise since 2009 to 52 percent, the center said.
With the automatic trigger set to focus strongly on defense, industry officials and Republicans have begun to sound alarms. The share of reductions aimed at the poor and children could expand if defense lobbying groups succeed in shrinking the Pentagon’s exposure to the trigger.
Republicans have also been critical of what they say is Washington’s refusal to make the politically difficult decisions necessary to bring down the long-term debt by cutting entitlements, citing the effect on the next generation.
‘Lower Living Standard’
“We know without a shred of doubt that we’re bequeathing a lower living standard to the next generation based on the path we’re on,” said House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan. “The sooner we grapple with this the more likely we are to avert that.”
Yet women and children also bore the brunt of the cutbacks under the Wisconsin Republican’s budget, which the Republican- controlled House approved in April. It called for scaling back food stamps, Pell grants for college students and Medicaid. Ryan said the pain will only intensify if Congress delays action.
The elderly’s pain has been eased since the New Deal era and Democratic President Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society” social programs. While seniors have been lifted out of poverty, children’s situation has improved at a much slower rate.
In 1959, seniors were the poorest demographic cohort, with 35 percent living in poverty, compared with 27 percent of children in poor families. In 2010, only 9 percent of people age 65 and older were poor, while 22 percent of those under 18 were living in poverty, according to U.S. Census Bureau data.
The trend coincides with a generational gap in federal spending. In 2008, per capita federal spending on those 19 and younger was $3,660, compared with $23,900 for those 65 and older, according to a report by the Urban Institute and Brookings in Washington.
“The generational warfare, whether it’s intentional or not, comes from saying ‘we won’t give anything; somebody else has to give,’” said Bixby. “That somebody else is children.”
jt
November 1st, 2011
6:27 am
Yea…we just positively MUST raise some taxes–
From the NYT———————————–
“The report, by the Government Accountability Office, says that New York Fed officials have offered inconsistent explanations for their decision to pay other financial companies the full amounts they were owed by A.I.G., and that some of the explanations were contradicted by other evidence.
The report also asserts that the decision to pay the full amounts, rather than seeking concessions as the government later did in other cases, disregarded the expectations of senior Fed officials in Washington and the expressed willingness of some of the companies to accept smaller payments.
In one case, when a company offered to accept a smaller amount of money, officials at the New York Fed responded that they had decided to pay the full amount of the debt, the report said.”
.
.
Sweet deal for banksters. No shame. No ethics. No limits in the ways and manner in which they shaft the taxpayers and grease the cronyistic, nepotistic, kleptocratic revolving door between the New York Fed and the Chosen Wall Street Investment ‘Firms’ doing such a great national service for the economy.
And who was the head of the New York Fed when this all took place? Why none other than Timmmmay Geithner, of course, of course.
.
LOOK!……over there……..its a Cain picadillo……………..
Normal
November 1st, 2011
6:47 am
Great morning to all y’all…
999 is just 666 turned up-side-down..
http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/10/31/political-pictures-happy-halloween/
…and just for the halibut…
http://history.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/10/31/funny-pictures-history-desperate-fishwives/
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:00 am
jt – peccadillo
dictionary.com – it’s your friend.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:03 am
Normal –
here ya go – http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/10/31/funny-pictures-videos-nature-is-scary/
something to creep out pretty much everyone.
jt
November 1st, 2011
7:09 am
USnUK-
.
well excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me…Ms. Webster.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:13 am
jt –
unless you meant picalilly
or armadillo
Misty Fyed
November 1st, 2011
7:17 am
Kudos to Obama for sticking to his guns and defunding UNESCO.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:17 am
jt
You did the best you could. You showed where this administration is definately in bed with the worst of the worst, and the libs did the best they could do.
Once they start actually seeing the dishonesty of this adnministration, what will they have? His successes? Our country is in the crapper, but hey, he killed bin Laden.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:20 am
GLL – “Our country is in the crapper, but hey, he killed bin Laden.”
as opposed to what we had before – the country was in the crapper, 9/11 AND both Bin Laden and Gaddhafi were alive and kicking.
hrm.
tough decision.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
7:20 am
Alas, I looked it up, and there’s no such thing as a “Cain Peccary.”
Normal
November 1st, 2011
7:21 am
USinUK,
Had to send that one home. Workee no likee you tube…
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:21 am
“The global economy is on the verge of a new and deeper jobs recession that may ignite social unrest, the International Labour Organization (ILO) has warned.
It will take at least five years for employment in advanced economies to return to pre-crisis levels, it said.
The ILO also noted that in 45 of the 118 countries it examined, the risk of social unrest was rising.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15519699
but, yeah, it’s all Obama’s fault
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:22 am
dB – peccari sounds like some kind of Indian curry … I’ll have the tadka dahl and a side of peccari
Normal
November 1st, 2011
7:22 am
USinUK,
Does Merry Olde England do Halloween?
I had a great time yesterday with the young ‘uns…
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:23 am
Normal – 7:21 – creepy. watch with the lights on.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
7:23 am
UnU, don’t forget Gregory Peccary.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:24 am
Normal – Merry Olde England has imported Halloween and totally embraced it … which is a shame. They have a great tradition of their own (Bonfire Night / Guy Fawkes Night on Nov 5) which is now getting short shrift
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:24 am
dB – I thought that was Gregory Pecorino!
Paul
November 1st, 2011
7:27 am
USinUK
I think jt meant ‘piccadillo’ – a really great Cuban stew. Early-morning symbolism. If it’s a Cain piccadillo, it’s something that, even though it’s open to individual modification, Cain and his team would screw it up so badly people wouldn’t have any idea at all what it is.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:27 am
USinUK
- -Gaddhafi were alive and kicking.- -
And isn’t that so much better? Sarira law. And we helped. So much for the rights of women in Libya. And Egypt is under control of the military, killing Christains. And again, we helped.
Bin Laden was an idiot. Why blow up buildings? He could have taken the entire North African region. He just needed the help of Obama and our military.
Normal
November 1st, 2011
7:29 am
Well, well, well, imagine that. GLL shows up and starts bashing President Obama first thing…all is right in the world again…
Paul
November 1st, 2011
7:29 am
USinUK
Gregory Pecorino? Naw, it’s the Italian – Pecorino Romano.
Paul
November 1st, 2011
7:30 am
Normal
We should start a 12-step program for that.
Thulsa Doom
November 1st, 2011
7:31 am
Now that I got my morning coffee I see we are right back at it again.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
7:32 am
So where to start with deconstructing Teh Stoopit in this comments thread?
Lessee, is it K-71 who’s bitching because PRI’s “The World” doesn’t–what was he looking for again?–someone to “criticize Bozo as incompetent, amateurish or without substance.” Yeah, PRI–why can’t you sound like a low-IQ/low-information commercial AM talk-radio shytfest?
Or perhaps we should turn instead to our captguitarman, who informs us that “In the ‘He said/she said’ dynamic, only what ’she said’ matters.”
There’s the hilarity of TruthBe who apparently finds the statement “George Soros is a evil man” to be self-evident, since he offers no supporting evidence whatsoever.
…oh, look, GLL just showed up. Send in the clowns? don’t bother, he’s here.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:33 am
Paul – 7:27 – mmmm … Cuban food …
GLL – yes, the world – particularly the Libyan people – ARE better off without Gaddhafi. and yes, WE HELPED – proudly!
“The new interim prime minister of Libya, Abdurrahim El Keeb, who was voted for the post by members of the National Transitional Council on Monday, is a Tripoli-born, US-educated electrical engineer and businessman. He has been tasked to head the interim governing authority and help shepherd the country’s transition to its first elections.”
oh, yeah … an electrical engineer … certainly sounds like an extremist to me.
SHARIA!!! boogedy-boogedy …
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:33 am
Normal
I’ve been gone for three weeks and I’ve noticed that the liberals here are much more hateful and bitter. You guys have a long year in front of you. You are going to need to pace yourself. You will be all bittered out long before the election.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:35 am
“the liberals here are much more hateful and bitter.”
Mike, Scout et al are liberals???
who knew!!
Paul
November 1st, 2011
7:36 am
“oh, yeah … an electrical engineer … certainly sounds like an extremist to me.”
Kinda gets back to US politics – which candidate(s) have criticized their Party for not embracing science, hmmmm? So that party has more in common with that Shariah Party, hmmmmm?
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
7:36 am
SHARIA!!! boogedy-boogedy …
no, it goes duh duh DUH DUH duh-duh duh-duh duh duh DUH DUH duh-duh duh-duh MY SHARIA…
(I think.)
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:36 am
stands for decibels
Gosh. YOu think I’m a clown. I’m crushed. Because your opinion of me means so very much to me.
USinUK
Sharia. Your lack of compassion for the women of the Middle East is a little disgusting. But really, its not about people. Its about Obama.
GT
November 1st, 2011
7:37 am
I would love for once to see a politician say yes I did have sex with that woman and it was good too. You ever notice how the people of Louisiana love Edwin Edwards, the crook. A poll shows if he ran today ,and he may, he would win. They love that guy because as he puts it, “I told em I was going to steal before they elected me”. None of that is good character but I think the world understands better than the pundits that we all have our human moments. Lying is the one thing that can’t be allowed. Not only does it get us in messes it shows cowardliness.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
7:39 am
So that party has more in common with that Shariah Party, hmmmmm?
well, we know that this party requires its Presidential candidates to get the approval of radical clerics before making decisions like, say, choosing a running mate.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:39 am
USinUK
Mikw and Scout aren’t just loving that extreneist have taken over most of North Africa.
Did you catch 60 Minutes a few weeks ago when they were talking about Egypt? And if I remember, you were saying the same thing about them. Its GOOD that the mean old dictator is gone. Well, what do you think, now?
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
7:40 am
Hateful and Bitter is Thursday!
Tuesday is sarcastic and superior.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:41 am
GLL – your overwhelming, pee-your-pants FEAR of Sharia (quick! there’s a mullah under your bed!!) is pathetic.
the Libyans have appointed a US-educated PM to oversee the transition – how about we wait to see what happens before you start running around in circles, demanding everyone stock up on plastic sheeting and duct tape
as far as it being about Obama – we know EVERYthing in your life that’s wrong is about Obama … yellow wax build-up on your kitchen floor? it’s Obama’s fault. the beenie-weenies you have for dinner give you gas? it’s Obama’s fault. your car gets a flat? TOTALLY Obama’s fault.
broken.
record.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:41 am
Granny Godzilla
Then you are two days ahead.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:42 am
“Tuesday is sarcastic and superior.”
I thought that was pretty much any day ending in “Y”
Normal
November 1st, 2011
7:43 am
GLL,
If anybody knows bitterness, you know bitterness…jus’ sayin’
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
7:45 am
Good Little Liberal
Far more than two days Mr. Silly Pants.
Look! GLL! Behind You!
It’s Frankie Valli singing his big hit…
Sharia Baby….Won’t you come out tonight!
We’ll dance the night away.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:46 am
USinUK
A little hysterocal this morning? And you just keep avoiding the issue of Egypt, yet another disaster brought on by Obama and you supported. It was all good. Poiwer to the people. But of course, As I predicted (along with anyone with a brain) they are killing Christians and starting border wars with Israel.
And you keep saying US educated. Whats that supposed to mean? A US educated terrorist was burned aliove by Obama, but hey, it was better than having water poured over his face.
BOB FROM ACCOUNT TEMPS
November 1st, 2011
7:46 am
you silly libs don’t understand the repub plan ; they want 4 more years of obama as that will kill all future dem candiates running for any office. this years crop of repub dummies is just cannon fodder for 2016.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:47 am
Granny Godzilla
Nothing says liberal women like making jokes about women in other parts of the world that will no longer be allowed to attend school vote or have most human rights, but hey its all about Obama.
Lets DANCE!!!!!
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
7:48 am
Good Little Liberal
You so funny!
We are making jokes about YOU!
Sha aa aa aa ria Baby
Sharia Baby
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:49 am
“And you just keep avoiding the issue of Egypt, yet another disaster brought on by Obama and you supported”
wow. your memory hole really is deep and wide, isn’t it???
Egypt is Obama’s doing?
not, like, you know, the Egyptians, themselves who rose up against Mubarek???
here, here’s a reminder of what happened :
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/201112515334871490.html
do yourself a favor and do a CTRL F to tell me EXACTLY what Obama did other than encourage the government to recognize human rights and praise the military for not attacking the Egyptian people.
and yet this is Obama’s fault???
you, sir, are laughable. or you would be if you weren’t so pathetic.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:49 am
Normal
I know bitterness. I see it everytime I come here.
But just try to remember: you made the choice to support Hope and Change. You did it. Not the Republicans.
Normal
November 1st, 2011
7:50 am
“A US educated terrorist was burned alive by Obama, but hey, it was better than having water poured over his face.”
This humanitarian side of GLL is new. I never knew he cared so much for terrorists well being… Deep, ain’t he?
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:51 am
GG – I thought it was Sharia Bay-yay-BEEE … (sharia baby) … Shaaaaaria, won’t you come out tonight …
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:51 am
Normal – 7:50 – it depends. If it’s someone W kills, he’s a terrorist … if it’s someone Obama kills, he was a god-fearing ‘murican
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:52 am
USinUK
But you supported it. YOu were all happy and glad it had happened. But now you are running away and saying that Obama had nothing to do with it. Low and behold, I . . . I . . . I’m afriad to say it . . . I think you were wrong. There I said it.
And now they are already talking about Sharia in Libya. How will you seperate Obama from that mess?
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
7:53 am
USinUK
You might be right…
But that is old what’s his names are of expertise.
Normal
November 1st, 2011
7:53 am
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:49 am
And I’ll do it again because I consider the GOP terrorists in their own right. They claim to love America but ARE, in fact, anti American.
tireofit
November 1st, 2011
7:54 am
If Cain was still was doing is radio show and this story was about a democrat, I only imagine what vial rhetoric he would be spewing.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:55 am
GLL – I still DO support the Egyptian people creating their own government rather than having a dick-tater for life
I’m kinda nutty that way.
You, on the other hand, prefer a not-so-benevolent dick-tater who oppresses his own people.
and you wonder why I don’t want your type in charge of MY government …
GT
November 1st, 2011
7:56 am
All I know is Friday is fish day.
Finn McCool
November 1st, 2011
7:56 am
It’s all Obama’s fault – everything. Oh for the Bush years – the days of wine and roses. Te salad years.
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
7:56 am
Sharia Lewis and Lamb Chop…Set’s old what’s his name off into paroxysms of fear with a yearning for mint jelly.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
7:56 am
Normal
GOP Members everywhere will go into mourning because what you think is soooo very important to all of us.
We’ll try to do better and hate business and then wonder why they are leaving. We’ll try to do better and support killing unborn babies. We’ll try to do better and go all hysterical when mean old people point out that Miami isn’t underwater and its 2011.
Please give us another chance. Oh please . . .
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:56 am
Normal – “And I’ll do it again because I consider the GOP terrorists in their own right. They claim to love America but ARE, in fact, anti American.”
the same way they LOVE democracy unless you vote in a way they don’t agree with …
dave hammer
November 1st, 2011
7:57 am
Cain is a lobbist who was successfull at that job.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
7:57 am
But seriously, if we’re gonna rock out to Sharia Law in the USA, make mine old-school punk, please.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
7:57 am
GG – “Sharia Lewis and Lamb Chop…”
*snort*
and there’s nothing quite like a Sharia Trifle to finish a holiday meal …
USMC
November 1st, 2011
7:58 am
“And I’ll do it again because I consider the GOP terrorists in their own right. They claim to love America but ARE, in fact, anti American.”
LOL! What a DELUSIONAL mind filled with hatred; the moniker of “Normal” should have told us all we needed to know. LOL!
Get off of the Fast food diet, turn off the television, and start reading books, “Normal”.
Finn McCool
November 1st, 2011
7:58 am
Just because Republicans like to govern with fear as a main tactic, that doesn’t make em terrists.
Fear is not the same as terror. One has 6 letters and one has 4.
They BOTH suck
November 1st, 2011
7:59 am
GLL
Go look up how many Christians have fled Iraq since the fall of Sadam?
Is that Obama’s fault as well……
Oh you didnt’t know about that……… Guess your fav pundits in their quest to be “fair and balanced” forgot to mention it……. I’m sure it was just an oversight
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:01 am
the same way they LOVE democracy unless you vote in a way they don’t agree with …
Actually, they love democracy when they’re Shock and Awe-ing it through the Middle East under a Godly War Preznit. They pretty consistently hate it here, and insist that ours isn’t a democracy at all, which is their pretext for disenfranchising millions of American citizens.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
8:01 am
USinUK
I’m so glad that you support the Egyption people. So do I. Its just that I seemed to have this thing . . . this future knowing thing about knowing that in the Middle east, when there is a power vaccuum, bad people tend to fill it. but of course, that will never happen in Libya like it has happened in every other country.
Because as we all know. Its not important that people are dying. Its not important that women have lost their rights. its only important that you had good intentions.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
8:03 am
They BOTH suck
Fleeing a war zone and being slaughtered in your own country for having the wrong religion are two different things.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:04 am
being slaughtered in your own country for having the wrong religion
but, enough about Mitt Romney’s 2012 prospects.
Thulsa Doom
November 1st, 2011
8:04 am
“Monday, is a Tripoli-born, US-educated electrical engineer and businessman”
Soooo. My God you people are hilarious. Mohammad Atta, the ringleader of the 9/11 attack, studied engineering at Cairo university and I think at a German university also. Khalid Sheik Mohammad also studied engineering in North Carolina. I honestly can’t believe the mindlessness of some of the libs that think that just because someone studies engineering that they are a logical, friendly, pro U.S. terrorist. Tell that to Khalid and Atta. God help us from this kind of idiocy.The foolishness started early for the crazies. I’m out but may hit the kook lefties with a drive by later today.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
8:04 am
Finn McCool
Republicans rule with fear.
HAve you heard any speeches by Joe Biden lately?
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
8:05 am
GLL – it’s called self-determination.
The people of Egypt … and Libya … and Bahrain … and Oman … and Yemen … and Morocco … and Iran … and Iraq … and Syria … they ALL have the right to install the government THEY want
not the one WE approve of
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
8:05 am
“future knowing thing”
Crystal Ball? Tea Leaves? Visions? Voices in your head?
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
8:06 am
stands for decibels
Making jokes about people being slaughtered. Now that’s some funny stuff. Know any good jokes about the holocaust?
Thulsa Doom
November 1st, 2011
8:06 am
GLL,
Give it up. You’re dealing with people that somehow have convinced themselves that studying engineering excludes someone from being a terrorist.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
8:07 am
Thulsa and GLL – if you guys want to ignore the part about him being an EDUCATED person who isn’t a MULLAH, feel free.
the fact is, though, that there are a lot more US educated people in the ME who AREN’T terrorists than who are …
but then, there are also a lot more MUSLIM people who aren’t terrorists than who are, and you seem to ignore that, too.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
8:08 am
That’s right, Thulsa – he’s BROWN!!! he must be a terra-ist!!! BOOGEDY BOOGEDY!!!!
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
8:09 am
USinUK
There seems to be a contradiction in your writing. You said that you supported the people, but now you say that when people are being slaughtered and women are losing their rights, its OK.
The problem with being a liberal as I see it, is that you have to take ridicules stances like you have this morning in order to rationalize the nonsense that you are being fed.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:10 am
Know any good jokes about the holocaust?
hmm. Define “good” in this context.
Finn McCool
November 1st, 2011
8:12 am
So now Cain admits to the payments? Handled poorly. Fail. Next candidate.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:13 am
I mean, the stupid “what the difference between a Jew and a Pizza” is obviously not a “good” Holocaust joke because it’s not funny.
on the other hand, well, this…
Hitler: Tuday, Hitlerr is feeling generrouz. Tuday, Hitlerr is sending half of you home! Jews of the concentration camp: Heeee!!!!!!! (joy and happiness). Hitler: Hans, brring ze chainsaw!
that’s kind of funny.
Good Little Liberal
November 1st, 2011
8:13 am
USinUK
Every piliot on 911 was educated and not one was a Mullah. He has already said that Sharia law would be best.
I hate to see you continue to embarrass yourself. I need to get to work. You and Granny can make up some more funny stuff about women being beaten and Stands can make up more funny stuff about people being killed for not being Muslim.
Have a good day folks. I would hope that i gave you food for thought but . . . no. Your indoctrination is far too powerful to allow rational thought.
Normal
November 1st, 2011
8:15 am
GLL,
What you don’t seem to understand is that these countries are getting to pick the kinds of government they want. If it’s not Democracy, then Oh well. Bottom line, they get to choose. Shaira Law, Democracy, Communism, or Monarchy…It’s their choice, not ours.
So get over thinking you know best…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
November 1st, 2011
8:16 am
Seems there is only one poster who can foray into the truth on this blog…. and interestingly enough that claim is made by the proven liar.
Adam
November 1st, 2011
8:16 am
A little late here but this:
He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.
…is really all you need to know.
Normal
November 1st, 2011
8:18 am
USinUK, Granny G.
I wonder if GLL got his “smarts” working as a school janitor.
I have to hand it to him, though. He does know when to run…
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
8:18 am
Good Little Liberal
We don’t need to make up funny stuff.
We got you.
That’s real and that’s funny.
Sharia Bay ay bee….
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:19 am
Why did Hitler kill himself? He got his gas bill.
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
8:19 am
Poor GLL…
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
8:20 am
“You said that you supported the people, but now you say that when people are being slaughtered and women are losing their rights, its OK. ”
yes. GLL, that’s EXACTLY what I was saying
nice, but no.
I support people’s right to set up their own government. I do NOT support the abuse of women. I know that may be a little too much for your teeny-tiny mind to comprehend, but there it is.
JamVet
November 1st, 2011
8:20 am
Damn, the attention-freak and armchair psychologist (LOL) started early today!
And I just love the ludicrous bellyaching about a lack of honesty, considering someone’s well deserved the veracity-free reputation here.
Kind of a humorless Looney Tunes meets the blogosphere.
Thank goodness there are normal people here to regale us with witty and interesting links and observations.
Check out this fantastic sign:
Overthrow
Corporate
Control
Undermining
Politics and
Your Democracy
Now, if they only had a message, hundreds of thousands of people around the republic AND globe might just support them!
And the would-be American fascists lose yet again…
(CNN) — A judge told Tennessee officials on Monday to stop enforcing new rules that have been used to arrest Occupy protesters in Nashville.
The decision was a victory for the fledgling movement and for the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee, which sought a temporary restraining order to block a curfew put in place last week.
U.S. District Judge Aleta Trauger issued the order, which state officials did not fight.
“Political expression deserves the highest level of protection and it was unacceptable for the state to suddenly shut down protesters’ speech and forcibly oust them from Legislative Plaza that has long been used as a place for peaceful expression,” said Hedy Weinberg, executive director at the ACLU of Tennessee.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/31/us/tennessee-occupy-protests/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Adam
November 1st, 2011
8:21 am
GLL: I have an idea! Let’s make up a story that these Muslim countries have WMDs, and then go in there without being UN sanctioned and remove anyone from power we dislike! Then we can spend some time making sure their government is a democracy (made up only of people we like)!
Great idea! Let’s do it!
Seriously, though, if they want Sharia Law let them. We may not like it, we may have moral qualms about it, but they sure aren’t going to see that women need rights by us forcing them to take that approach. And if they attempt to start wars with our allies, whether for religious reasons or not, we have a right to step in and stop them. But if they are exercising an actual free and democratic government WITHOUT using violence to get their way and put another dictator into power, then we have no business sticking our nose in.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:21 am
oh, and because such things interest me and I felt like sharing, here’s why the Pizza joke is not funny, explained in a way I never thought to express explicitly but always felt from the first time I heard it as a kid and thought, “but… um… that’s stupid.”
http://www.heretical.com/holofun/shoah2.html
The first flaw in the anecdote’s construction is in its gratuitous use of ethnicity as a crutch. To be sure, Jews serve as an invaluable comedy resource. Any joke involving miserliness of any kind can be improved by the addition of a Hebraic surname (or, in the alternative, by the addition of the prefix “Mac.”) But here, “Jewishness” does not improve the comedy one wit. Any ethnicity will scream when placed in an oven. You throw an Irishman into an oven, and see if he doesn’t cry out “Begosh and begorrah, I’ve been thrown into an oven!” So too the Mexican, whose refrain of “Ai yi yi, es mui caliente!” is equally plausible. Indeed, the only person who should ever be thrown into an oven in comedy is Sylvia Plath.
Many of you may object, “But what of the Holocaust? Surely that validates the choice of ‘Jew’ in the set-up?”
Far from it. One must be very careful when relying on history as validation. The Nazis threw very few screaming Jews into the oven. This is not Holocaust revisionism, it’s simply fact. The Germans are a very efficient people, and they killed almost all their victims before disposing of their bodies in factory-like furnaces. To do otherwise would slow their production lines of death down, and that would be intolerable to the German psyche. No, no. The corpses that were thrown into the ovens went in not unlike the aforementioned pizza – silently.
Thus, the fundamental logic of the joke is ruined. The difference does not hold up under historical scrutiny. The listener then, asked to contemplate the difference between a Jew and a pizza, comes up with the answer: “One is a human being with a human soul and a human mind and inherent human dignity, and the other is a molded dough product.”
TaxPayer
November 1st, 2011
8:23 am
Hey! Y’all lay off GLL. Thulsa’s gonna get jealous.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
8:27 am
hey, if supporting people’s rights to choose their own government is “embarassing myself”, I’ll take that all day, every day and twice on sunday!
(not to mention, if pointing out to these twits that there are more educated people who AREN’T terrorists than who ARE is anathema to them, then so be it)
Producer
November 1st, 2011
8:27 am
Not gonna hurt Herman at all. The women who broke their word and released the contents of a confidential settlement should be sued by the association. They were probably nothing more than opportunistic trash to begin with looking to get a quick score. Did you ever notice that libs like Kennedy and our former president can get caught tag teaming a woman on a boat or sodomizing one with a cigar and have nothing happen to them? Curious. But have a self made black guy run for the highest office without the help of quotas and he must be destroyed. Ain’t gonna happen here. Nice try!
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
8:28 am
Adam – 8:21 – what kind of numpty would do a thing like THAT???!!!
Ayn Rand's Medicare
November 1st, 2011
8:30 am
good morning – the thread is Cain? really? Cain? phht he’s Done
on the subject of the national debt, you could buy a couple of these pompous trolls for what they’re worth, and sell them for what they think they’re worth – bingo, surplus.
JamVet
November 1st, 2011
8:34 am
Not gonna hurt Herman at all.
I concur.
It’s like lamenting that Texas Tech is not gonna win the national title now because they just lost to Iowa State.
Hell, it is arguable that the middling Red Raiders will, in fact, win a crown before Herman gets elected.
To any office. Ever.
Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) – Occupy Wall Street activists plan to amass in Iowa one week before the Iowa caucuses – up to the day they’re held on Jan. 3, CNN has learned.
The plan has been dubbed the “First in the Nation Caucus Occupation” – a play on words for the first-in-the-nation presidential contest. The idea is to have activists from across the nation, and possibly beyond, descend on Iowa.
The plan: “people coming to Iowa, occupying every presidential (candidate’s) office, shutting them down until they start talking real turkey about what’s going on in this country, where the 99% of the people who are not benefiting, at the expense of the 1% who are getting away with murder,” said Frank Cordaro, one of the organizers.
The plan is to target offices for Republican candidates and President Barack Obama’s campaign offices in the state.
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:34 am
if pointing out to these twits that there are more educated people who AREN’T terrorists than who ARE is anathema to them, then so be it
So be it? Why, don’t you worry about someone like Mittens claiming that you’re “apologizing for bein’ Merikun” or something equally scary?
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:35 am
the thread is Cain? really?
I’d moved on to Holocaust joke deconstruction, but nobody else seems interested.
USinUK
November 1st, 2011
8:37 am
dB – 8:34 – meh, after 8 years of the W administration, I’m used to being told by these half-wits that I hate america because I don’t toe their particular line.
to hell with the lot of ‘em
Atlanta1
November 1st, 2011
8:39 am
Interesting. I do not remember this writer ever questioning the qualifications of our standing President. And they were and still are questionable.
I will take Herman Cain over President Obama ‘any day’. And so will most of America.
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
8:42 am
Atlanta1
I wonder why you don’t blame the GOP establishment for doing such a lousy job at oppo research?
Especially since they appear to be sabatoging Cain from the right.
Jay
November 1st, 2011
8:42 am
Sheets
stands for decibels
November 1st, 2011
8:44 am
bitches.
JamVet
November 1st, 2011
8:44 am
stands, like josef, I have a very low tolerance for hateful numties (did I get that word right, ex-pat?) who speak about such matters, as what happened in 1930s and 40s Germany, completely out of their southern cavities.
The aforementioned josef, absolutely humiliated the dual know-nothing parrot heads last night for puking up that Hannityesque tripe about a 14 year old child caught up in on of the world’s greatest genocides.
And looking down their pitiful noses with some great moral superiority.
That was good enough for me.
“I will take Herman Cain over President Obama ‘any day’. And so will most of
AmericaCobb, Cherokee and Forsythe counties.”Other than that? Not so much…
Ayn Rand's Medicare
November 1st, 2011
8:45 am
Herman Cain is punking you people, selling books to himself with your contributions, and jet-setting thru Pros-perity (Plan) USA money that is, you guessed it, tax deductible contributions from you too. He’s got a Fox contract waitin. If that harassment claim was by a little boy, he would be a first-ballot Republican Hall of Famer.
Better than Caribou Barbie & he hasn’t even done the ak47 bikini shot yet.
Granny Godzilla
November 1st, 2011
8:48 am
Did ya’ see the stuff about Herman Cains campaign manager….
Banned from running campaigns in WI for 3 years and mega fined?
Imagine that fella’ is part of Cains problem
JKL2
November 1st, 2011
8:49 am
Adam- But if they are exercising an actual free and democratic government WITHOUT using violence to get their way and put another dictator into power, then we have no business sticking our nose in.
Gadhafi says,”What?”
I’d love to be able to sell my wife for a good camel. Bring on Sharia!
USinUK- It’s not abuse of women if they have no rights.
Jay
November 1st, 2011
8:57 am
You’re right about one thing, jm. I did have a typo.
Adam
November 1st, 2011
8:58 am
Atlanta1: And so will most of America.
Not intended to be a factual statement
Adam
November 1st, 2011
8:59 am
JKL2: Gadhafi says,”What?”
Oh, you mean a dictator who did NOT preside over a democracy?
You comparison fails.
Zombie Obama Email
November 1st, 2011
9:00 am
Zombie Obama Email: Virginia GOP Condemns Image Of President With Bullet Through Head
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/zombie-obama-email-virginia_n_1068128.html
RAMZAD
November 1st, 2011
9:18 am
One of Cain’s heroes is Clarence Thomas, so why should anybody expect different from Cain? I will
bet there are more women waiting in the wings to come out and explain this fraud’s inability to consider women more than flesh sockets.
DawgDad
November 1st, 2011
9:27 am
Innuendo, innuendo, innuendo.
“Cain, as a candidate, has not surrounded himself with good, competent experienced people.”
Says who? Jay Bookman??? And where is the evidence? Well, the only evidence that matters at this point is Cain’s position in the polls and how much cash he’s raising for his campaign.
JamVet
November 1st, 2011
9:30 am
“And where is the evidence?”
You’re joking, right?
Ron Paul 2012
November 1st, 2011
9:45 am
“In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Cain has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.”
Does it make anyone else laugh to read this from a water carrier for the community organizer?
Guy Incognito
November 1st, 2011
9:47 am
“and how much cash he’s raising for his campaign.”
The Hermanator’s coffers swelled yesterday, double of any other day.
Please keep attacking him, oh please, oh please, oh please
Eli Jones
November 1st, 2011
9:53 am
Because of Eric Holder’s and Barack Obama’s gun running, US border agent Brian Terry and US immigration customs enforcement agent Jaime Zapata were killed by those guns. Also over two hundred of Mexico’s citizens have been slaughtered by Holder’s and Obama’s guns. Obama and Holder used 10 Million dollars of our tax money to finance their deadly Fast And Furious insanity.
…………………………………………………………
SIGN THE PETITION TO PROSECUTE ERIC HOLDER FOR “FAST AND FURIOUS” (and pass it on)
http://act.theteaparty.net/5273/prosecute-eric-holder/
Gator Joe
November 1st, 2011
9:58 am
Jay:
And the Wealthy Right Wing was doing so well, with their plan for taking back the White House, their Republicans in Congress were doing their best to keep the economy tanked, and Fox was taking care of brainwashing the Middle and Lower economic Republican voters. Unfortunately, they couldn’t find credible, qualified candidates, who can match President Obama’s intellect and character.
JamVet
November 1st, 2011
9:59 am
Does it make anyone else laugh to read this from a <del<water carrier for the community organizer someone without the package to agree?
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Adam
November 1st, 2011
12:56 pm
I love the “community organizer” thing. Yeah, he wasn’t a law professor, state Senator, or a US Senator before that or anything.
Adam
November 1st, 2011
12:57 pm
before being President, I mean.
That Black guy
November 1st, 2011
1:56 pm
Adam
November 1st, 2011
12:56 pm
I love the “community organizer” thing. Yeah, he wasn’t a law professor, state Senator, or a US Senator before that or anything.
No, he wasn’t a “law professor” he was a “senior lecturer,”
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/obama-a-constitutional-law-professor/
Adam
November 1st, 2011
2:40 pm
That Black guy: Oh darn! I guess that means he had NO experience AT ALL in anything else prior to being President, EXCEPT being a community organizer. Darn, you got me.
independent thinker
November 1st, 2011
10:19 pm
Herman Cain- another Republican bufoon not ready for prime time.
Gandalf the Wise
November 4th, 2011
5:45 am
What’s most damaging is that he’s going to defeat that communist currently in office! God thank you for Herman Cain!
Gandalf the Wise
November 4th, 2011
5:45 am
He was never a law professor
Gandalf the Wise
November 4th, 2011
5:46 am
didn’t do anything as state senator
Gandalf the Wise
November 4th, 2011
5:48 am
didn’t even finish his first non eventful term as Senator…yeah, he’s a winner…that church he went to was a nice place for our fearful leader to learn about God and morals…what a loser.