Here’s what’s most damaging to Herman Cain
Things we have learned today about Herman Cain’s candidacy for president:
– It is quite plausible that Herman Cain harassed no one; clearly, not everyone accused of sexual harassment is guilty of that charge, and in the presumed absence of a smoking gun, we will never know for certain what transpired roughly 15 years ago. Even settlement payments don’t establish evidence of guilt.
– However, it is much less plausible that five-figure financial payments were made to each of the two women involved, as Politico reports, and that Cain, as CEO of the National Restaurant Association, knew nothing about such settlements, as he claims. That discrepancy could come back to haunt Cain, given that Politico claims to have seen documentation of the payments.
– This is not a case of character assassination or unfair treatment by liberal media. Any candidate for national office with such allegations in his or her past should expect them to become public at some point and should be ready to deal with them. It’s just a fact of life in modern politics.
– Politico reports that it had been attempting to get a response from Cain and his staff for 10 days before publishing its story. Yet despite that long time to prepare, Cain’s campaign has badly botched its reaction. It shows no sign of having crafted a strategy for how to deal quickly and forthrightly with the allegations, and that failure has compounded the damage.
(Case in point: The botched interview that Cain’s communications director gave to Geraldo Rivera Sunday night. Among other things, you don’t offer an initial national response to such charges via a telephone hookup featuring a relatively low-level staffer with no story to tell. You put the candidate himself on air and have him deal with it directly.)
– A campaign operation is always useful as an illustration of the type of White House a candidate would run if elected. Whatever you think of Barack Obama’s politics, he put together a highly professional, disciplined and effective ‘08 campaign that managed to defeat the vaunted Clinton political machine. Conversely, the impulsive nature of the John McCain campaign, from the decision to make Sarah Palin his running mate to his announcement that he was suspending his campaign during the ‘08 financial crisis, also reflected the candidate’s leadership style.
– Throughout his campaign, Cain has acknowledged that he is not a trained politician and does not have ready answers to many questions. Time and again, he has said that if elected, he would rely on a CEO’s style of leadership, which is to surround himself with good, competent, experienced people and take their advice on complex issues.
On foreign policy, for example, Cain has said that a president doesn’t need “to have extensive foreign policy experience if you know how to make sure you’re working on the right problems, establishing the right priorities, surround yourself with the right people, which would allow you to put together the plans necessary to solve the problem.”
– Cain, as a candidate, has not surrounded himself with good, competent experienced people. He has not demonstrated the ability to establish the right priorities or work on the right problems. Quite the contrary, as this example demonstrates, he has surrounded himself with rank amateurs who don’t know how to put together and operate a strong campaign organization.
The mishandling of the sexual harassment crisis isn’t even the most recent example of that failure. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports today that Cain’s chief of staff and deputy chief of staff may have used tax-deductible donations from a Wisconsin nonprofit that they ran to help finance Cain’s early campaign, which would be a violation of both tax laws and campaign finance laws. (Among other problems, tax-deductible donations cannot be used for political purposes.)
If true — and the documentation is extensive — it’s a mistake no serious candidate should ever make.
– In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Cain has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.
– Jay Bookman
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Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
10:03 pm
Sooth, Kayaker, GLL, I’m back in the building now.
“So what do you support? Is Capitalism bad? Does it need to be replaced? I won my home and have no real bills. So do you get part of what I have worked for? Please. tell us how you want things to be.”
I’m not sure about prize winnings, I’d have to think about that one. But on matters of top earning tax brackets and capital gains, I’ve expressed my views on these pages numerous times. There is no reason whatsoever for anyone “earning” over several million dollars a year to pocket those gains. That’s why post-war top tax rates of 90% were perfectly reasonable and sound policy. It prevents hoarding and sets a “ceiling” to obscene profits. And don’t ask me how I come off calling something “obscene”. Let’s just say that when you have massive poverty and slums, significant infant mortality, and large parts of the nation unable to afford basic health insurance, there is NO reason for someone to be pocketing investment gains in the multiples of millions (even if the person in question is “managing” said funds). We determine how much high earners get to “keep” of their sweepstakes gains by looking at the conditions of the society as a whole. Public workers in cities and locales being laid off means no million plus bonuses for Hankie (Paulsen that is). Not in my just society, that is.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
10:04 pm
“dudgeon”
I had to look that one up. Jay, keep dropping obscure words if you will. I dig em…….
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjIXwkX1e48&feature=relmfu
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:05 pm
URGENT MESSAGE TO FRIGHT-WING POSTERS: You’ll find no waiting over at Wingnut’s blog. Not to mention the “mutual admiration society” that you so desire.
We understand your disenchantment with the despicable “lefties” here at old Bookman’s blog and believe me, I understand. Therefore suffer no more. Besides, Kyle needs the posts on his pathetic blog.
Just sayin . . .
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:06 pm
I completely support deep seated anger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI2uuSYHAfs
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:06 pm
josef
I stand by what I said about Soros. Saying that he was 14 means nothing. He has been a slime ball his entire life and how you libs can protect him is beyond me. He should be in prison with Madolf.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:06 pm
Has anybody played this for Hallowe’en yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txo06c1k9sk&feature=related
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:07 pm
More scary sh8t for All Hallows Eve…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCEDfZgDPS8
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:09 pm
Who is Madolf?
Gandolf’s younger brother?
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:10 pm
GLL
You’re evil is astounding! You know absolutely nothing about the actual events you’re referring to…I do…and even if I weren’t familiar down to the day and hour with events in Hungary following March 19, 1944 and the figures involved, I would know better than to repeat that d*mnable lie…may you rot in h3ll fire eternal for doing it…stand by it all you want to…I just don’t want to be in line behind you on judgement day while you try and weasel out of it…
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:11 pm
josef & Jam-man: that’s some scary shee – uht! I had to pull the covers over my head!
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:11 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
I own my house. I didn’t win it.
So you want to limit a person’s achivements. What gives you the right to do that?
And how would it work? If a person makes more than what you dictate, that person should go to the ghetto and give the excessive profits to poor people? Is that it?
Or does the government control it?
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
10:12 pm
I have no deep seated anger. Only love for my fine cuisine options….
Liberals taste better than conservatives. Conservatives are so tough while liberals are tender and juicy. I might even go so far as to say…. Soft.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:12 pm
How excellent, josef beat me with the Mussorgsky.
I saw the ASO do it some years back and it was absolutely captivating.
And gentlemen, do not feed the trolls, even if they are older than 14…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92HjH1GG3ro
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:12 pm
ZamVet
Beat ya to it!
K’chak
I don’t know who Madlof is, but I do know a Mad Olaf!
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:12 pm
josef @ 10:06 = Jam @ 10:07. What was that about insane minds thinking alike??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yA2i60AVIw&feature=related
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
10:13 pm
“stand by it all you want to”
He’s not “standing by it”, merely hiding behind it
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:13 pm
The democrat’s smear machine is running high on all cylinders. Hey all of you democrats what about you favorite president Bill Clinton. He not only harassed women but he assaulted them. No comments on that. Hell Bill Clinton was the mascot for sexual harassment. As for Obama no hes your average black racist bigot commie. Isn’t thats so Kamchak and josef.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:14 pm
josef
tell that to the people in England and France that the piece of crap caused to lose their life savings, josef.
And please, a little more emotion. If there’s one thing I respect, its yet another hysterical liberal saying that I’m evil and should rot in hell.
that’s definitely what we need in this country. More people like you that goes all to hell over another person’s opinion.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:16 pm
Oh, yes, GLL…you will note that I am no fan of Soros and have called him a slimeball on more than one occasion…but that’s a completely different issue…have you been a fr*kken lying jacka33 your life long? I don’t think so…
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:16 pm
It’ close to midnight . . .
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:17 pm
josef
Panties in a wad tonight josef?
Not my fault.
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
10:17 pm
I’m throwing a party. All are invited. Dinner will be great. Unless you’re vegan.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
10:17 pm
“In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Cain has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.”
Jay ………. are you talking about Cain or Obama ?
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:18 pm
bruno
Not to die but to be reborn away from the land so battered and torn-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8-Y-fIbqM
Dracula
October 31st, 2011
10:18 pm
Oh. And red is obviously the preferred color for attire
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:19 pm
Watching Herman speak and tell his version. Aint no doubt about it. The Demorat smear machine is going to backfire big time on this one. The folks at politico with their “anonymous” sources gotta be feeling really stupid right about now.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyknBTm_YyM
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
10:19 pm
Dracula…your dinner party sucks!
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:20 pm
GLL
Well, if there is a G-d of Wrath and a Day of Judgement…
And like I said, you don’t know the first d*mned thing about that time and place or the people involved…emotional? You bet you, I am…this is one that is so evil in nature that all I can do is react emotionally—
bman
October 31st, 2011
10:20 pm
Doom….do you like Cain for President?
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
For Dracula:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfso3CiHwN8
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
Hey B, the Friday night sing-a-longs just ain’t the same without ya.
Killer Mac. Arguably more tasty than the hyper-commercially successful version of that band.
Kam, awesome choice.
Haven’t heard that one in a long time.
Now friends, don’t wait!
Let’s play our black music,
for fate crushes the strong—
everyone despair with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkgcUEGEZv4&feature=fvst
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:24 pm
josef, George Soros is a evil man and you damn well know it. To protect and hide this man’s crimes is in it’s self a crime aganist humanity. Someone with your education should know better. Not to mention your religion. Where’s your honest and dignity? Have you no shame? This man should have been tired for war crimes. He’s makes a king’s fortune on people’s pain and loses. You people on the left have no morals anymore.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:25 pm
GLL
Panties in a wad? Not particularly…I’m in a pretty good mood…got to spend some time with the innocents and share in their joy…means a lot to me…you’re just a burr under my saddle who happens to merit my rage, as well as that of any other human being with a modicum of decency…
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:26 pm
doom
Democratic smear machine??? What’s their motive there buckaroo? Why not look inward to your own beloved party for this timely revelation. It’s very karl rovian if you ask me….
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:28 pm
Those years when I found rock to be a joke of it’s former glory, I turned back almost exclusively to classical music. (With a smattering of Celtic and reggae thrown in for good measure!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sJE0kI6loU&feature=related
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:28 pm
TruthBe
Say what? You’re as full of sh*t as a Christmas turkey…and it is my education and my religion which bring me to the defense of a 14 year old boy…I make no pretense of defending the grown man…you, too, have no idea what you’re talking about vis a vis events in Hungary post March 19, 1944…if you did you would know that evil canard simply was impossible…
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
10:28 pm
Good little liberal: “So you want to limit a person’s achivements.”
Pocketing billions playing money alchemy while teachers and public workers are being laid off, not to mention thousands of people unemployed to the point of being unemployable, is hardly what I’d call an “achievement”.
“What gives you the right to do that?”
I have a vision of justice – which evidently hedge fund barons like John Paulson do not, judging by their behavior.
“And how would it work?”
Easy. Eliminate capital gains “loopholes” and define ALL income as the income that it is. And above a certain level, tax the hell out of it, as in 90%.
“If a person makes more than what you dictate, that person should go to the ghetto and give the excessive profits to poor people? Is that it?”
No. They should pay larger and larger percentages of their income to help support and sustain the institutions that perform critical functions such as a) improve the education level of the citizenry, b) improve access to health care among the people, c) support a strong infrastructure, and other things that support the commons for the people.
“Or does the government control it?”
Yes. The government — being the representative of the will of the people, as opposed to private interests — should do it, why not?
In a just world charity should be made unnecessary.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:28 pm
Where’s your honest[sic] and dignity? Have you no shame?
All aboard the shame train for a guilt-trip.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
10:29 pm
Man! ya’ll are playing this sca – a – a – a ry music tonight! I’m outta here! I’m gonna hide under the covers ’til tomorrow! Good night! Or as we Nazis like to say, Gute Nacht!
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:29 pm
Mick, That’s what the democrat’s lamestreet media wants you to believe.
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:30 pm
josef, You have become a ugly spoiled child.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:31 pm
Tick…tick…tick….
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:31 pm
josef
- -this is one that is so evil in nature that all I can do is react emotionally— – -
I think I have found your problem.
You get onn here and you side with the creepy little internet stalker, you claim that I am a liar and have offered no proof and you say that I am evil and should burn in hell. Calm down, boy. You don’t know me except in your twisted little mind.
Its real easy, isn’t it? You can make up how people are, any way you like, say what ever you want about them and then claim that you are just all emotional.
Typical liberal. I’m supposed to pardon your mental condition because you just can’t control it.
How about no. Grow up and deal with other people.
bman
October 31st, 2011
10:32 pm
Welcome to the occupation …. What happened in your life that took your mind? Do you remember the day it happened? …Seriously though, what’s wrong with you? forpetesakes
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:34 pm
TruthBe
If that’s what separates me from you, then so be it!
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:34 pm
josef, forget those two twisted twits.
They are fiercely ignorant on the matter and fiercely proud of being so.
That certainly never stops them from voicing equally despicable positions on a wide variety of other matters.
Near the very top of my favorite classical pieces…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MiETaBSnc
Bruno
October 31st, 2011
10:35 pm
This one is from Platinum Black:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQcUyhoxTg&feature=youtu.be
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:36 pm
GLL
If you buy into that Soros na zi thing, and you by your own statement do, I know more about you than I care to…G-d forbid we’re ever in the same room together…
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:36 pm
However, it is much less plausible that five-figure financial payments were made to each of the two women involved, as Politico reports, and that Cain, as CEO of the National Restaurant Association, knew nothing about such settlements, as he claims.- Jay
Nope. 3 months severance would equal to about 10-12k. From the evidence of what I’m seeing and from what Cain just related these 2 women were paid small nuisance fees to just go away- between 10 and 15k.
Secondly its not that unusual that Cain wouldn’t know the exact settlement. These are small nuisance suits and distractions and are usually just handled by the general counsel. These things happen everyday in corporate America and a CEO has better things to worry about then the exact amount of a small nuisance suit. Your complete lack of experience and knowledge of corporate America and the private sector is really showing here Jay.
That discrepancy could come back to haunt Cain, given that Politico claims to have seen documentation of the payments.- Jay
Kinda funny that these settlements are supposed to be confidential but somehow or another one of these DemoRAT muckrakers seemed to get a hold of this. One things for sure. These Chicago thug pols have nooo problem getting in the sewer. As for politico who cares? Its just an uber left arm of the uber left Washington Post.
Politico reports that it had been attempting to get a response from Cain and his staff for 10 days before publishing its story. Yet despite that long time to prepare, Cain’s campaign has badly botched its reaction- Jay
I dunno. I’m starting to wonder if Herman wanted this to come out so that he could knock it out of the park as the total BS that it is. People know BS when they see it and I’m thinking Cain knows this is going to backfire. Funny thing but his campaign donations are supposedly way up today.Just watching an interview with Cain on this its clear he’s going to come out good on this one.
On foreign policy, for example, Cain has said that a president doesn’t need “to have extensive foreign policy experience- Jay
Looks like Herman was right on this one. If you don’t believe that look at Obama’s total lack of foreign policy experinence coming into office. For Pete’s sake this is a guy who thought Austrians speak Austrian.
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports today that Cain’s chief of staff and deputy chief of staff may have used tax-deductible donations from a Wisconsin nonprofit that they ran to help finance Cain’s early campaign, which would be a violation of both tax laws and campaign finance laws.- Jay
I dunno. Seems kinda miniscule compared to say Timothy tax chief Geitner holding a cabinet level position. Compared to that you have really got to be reaching Jay. You have absolutely got to be kidding. You got to be.
In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Obama has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.- Jay
Wow. I only had to change one word, or name actually, to correct Jay’s typo.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:36 pm
truthbe
Paranoid much?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz_6jagv_D4
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
10:36 pm
“I’m supposed to pardon your mental condition because you just can’t control it.”
You just don’t recognize control when you see it. What he OUGHT to be calling you would get him thrown out of here. He’s showing quite admirable control.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:37 pm
ZamVet
You and I disagree on a lot from time to time, but on this one you probably better than anyone else on the blog know why I’m in such a twirl…
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:37 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5koEs6HAF24
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:38 pm
JamVet, Who ask you? Wasn’t speaking to you. If I wanting you opinion I would have asked you so buss off.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:39 pm
Welcome to the Occupation
THat’s a great visionj. But of course its BS. The government is not going to give the money to poor people. They are going to HAVE to give it to our debtors.
Our schools suck and we spend more money than any other country.
I don’t make billions so I really don’t care. Vote for people that will promise to take all the money they can. And they will. You will never see it and neither will any poor people or schools. Schools are paid for by local governments. So is police and fire. The Fed just buys votes.
I can live with all of this. I’ve worked my entire life and I like what I have. If you want to take money from billionaires give it a shot.
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:39 pm
Mick. No. How about you?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:40 pm
call me a freedom fighter in your ‘just’ society wto………liberalism decays the moral fiber of society and has for centuries since anything goes with liberalism…..liberals are never satisfied and always want to push the envelope…..i love the way that radical libs like you try to corral the ‘moral authority’ to tell other people what is and what isn’t ‘obscene’ or whatever the topic might be…….radical libs have no boundaries so how do you pretend to tell me, a conservative who does have limits of what is right and wrong, what is right and wrong when you continually change what IS right or wrong……..i have a firm foundation while yours is based in quicksand depending on the day and time……draw a line in the sand, keep it there and stand on it with honesty and conviction and then tell me how much of my own money i have a right to keep……until then keep being exposed by me for the spineless nature of your ideology…….liberalism is the easy choice with no repercussions…….this is why you ilk will lose in a landslide next Nov….enjoy lib
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:41 pm
Doggone/GA
I appreciate your input. It has changed my life. Because if there’s one person I want to impress, its you.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:42 pm
If I wanting you opinion I would have asked you so buss off.
You posted in a public forum, sport.
Want a private conversation?
Use a telephone.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:42 pm
josef
Ooooo Internet tough.
I’m laughing josef.
At you. Once again, you know nothing about me and if you did, you would never think that you could take me.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:43 pm
K’chak
@ 10:37
Yeah! That one, too…! Playing on the other screen as I type…thanks….
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:44 pm
truth
H3ll noes, I can see clearly now that the day has gone. You all are in a hissy fit over cain? Sorry, but I still consider him small potatoes and would even go with little caesars over godfathers. Tomorrow will be a better day, I’m sure..
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
10:44 pm
“I appreciate your input. It has changed my life. Because if there’s one person I want to impress, its you”
I think I smell the sulpherous fumes of a badly told untruth.
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:44 pm
Kamchak, Shut up fool.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:45 pm
and yes we have our first ilk warning of the night…..wto you wouldn’t last 20 minutes in a debate with a true conservative like me…..it would be too easy to expose where your vision of this country would lead…..
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
10:45 pm
bman: “Welcome to the occupation …. What happened in your life that took your mind?”
I opened my eyes.
“Do you remember the day it happened? …”
No, I don’t. But it was somewhere in early adulthood, late enough to disprove that stupid bit of Churchillian pseudo-wisdom about being young and liberal and old and conservative. I consider that the most unhelpful thing that’s ever been said on the subject.
“Seriously though, what’s wrong with you? ”
There’s still a chance that the right wing might get away with their disgusting lies and corruption, and as long as that chance is there, I’m motivated.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:46 pm
little caesars over godfathers…..now that’s funny Mick!
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:46 pm
josef
I grew up with the orchestration by Ravel.
I have grown to prefer it in the original piano.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
bman,
I’m not sure that I will vote for Cain. I just know I would vote for anyone except the incompetent that now occupys the white house. I’ve posited many a time that Elmer Fudd would make a better potus than the nojobama. First order of business do no harm to the nation. By that standard alone Obama is an abject failure.
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
Doggone/GA
How would you like for me to respond? Do you honestly think that I give a tinkers damn about what you think about me?
TruthBe
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
Mick, Who said I supported Mr.Cain? Besides I like mallow mushroom pizza anyway dude.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
billyb
We are all part of the same hypocrisy, never forget that. You are delusional if you think you possess a higher moral authority. No more sanctimonious pontificating please, its falling on deaf ears…
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:47 pm
GLL
Internet tough? Not me. I meant every word of it and it’s not a threat, but a promise…and me think I could take you? Well, I’ll put it to you this way, Pombo, I’ve been in many a brawl and I’ve had my a33 whupped plenty of times, so I don’t go predicting outcomes…that’s not a very wise course of action…
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
10:48 pm
Truthdon’tbe
Red card?
Or yellow?
bman
October 31st, 2011
10:48 pm
“There’s still a chance that the right wing might get away with their disgusting lies and corruption, and as long as that chance is there, I’m motivated.”
Were you part of the Troy Davis Park crowd? Just wondering…
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:49 pm
Mick,
Did you just call me a buckaroo? I aint ever been called a buckaroo before. Lots of other things but not that. Reminds me of when I was early 20s and I saw an old man in his 80s go off in a rage against a friend of mine. He was so dang mad he called him a whippersnapper which I take it meant something heinous back in the day.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:49 pm
josef, given just how loathsome these two have frequently demonstrated they can be, I’m inclined to only make this last observation.
What is particularly disgusting about their insanely and intentionally offbase ‘argument’ about that 14 year old boy is that is driven by one thing and one thing only.
A deep hatred for all things and all people that they deem……….liberal.
That disease defines them, at least with no doubt on this forum, and they will stop at nothing to justify it.
I find their impotent anger pathetic, though laughable.
One of the adults in the neighborhood had the coolest costume on tonight. One that he and his wife made from scratch…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwxc_zLH560
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:49 pm
K’chak
@ 10:46
Me, too…
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
10:50 pm
“How would you like for me to respond?”
that you felt compelled to respond at all is more telling than you maybe realize.
bman
October 31st, 2011
10:51 pm
Doom…ok.
I feel the same way (almost) lol…I just wonder what it is about Cain that people like so much for President.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
10:51 pm
wto,
the tea party will make sure that both parties no longer get away with the corruption that emanates from the ruling elite in both parties…….EVERY senator up for re-election next year will hear from the conservative majority in Nov…..
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:51 pm
GLL and josef,
Yall simmer on down. Next thing you know someone is gonna get called a buckaroo or a whippersnapper and then all hell is gonna break loose and someone is going to get challenged to a face to face at the northpoint mall starbucks. That’s what the real tough internet guys do. Challenge someone to a hot coffee drinkin contest.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:53 pm
ZamVet
It is pathological…no doubt…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
10:53 pm
the zeus has spoken
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:54 pm
josef
So why is getting your ass kicked supposed to be a threat to me. Sounds like you aren’t very proficient.
The reason why you are getting your ass kicked is because of that fragile emotion. If you can handle yourself, there is little emotion.
But your little internet tough stance is a bit surprising. I won’t tell you what I have done or what I know, but the next time I’m in Atlanta, I’ll be glad to buy you a beer. You know, what men do.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:55 pm
Thulsa
A hot coffee drinking contest, you say? Now that one I KNOW I could win hands down…!
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:56 pm
bman,
I think people relate to Cain because he comes off as a genuinely nice, likeable guy. And also because he is the quintessential American success story. Son of a single mother who grew up to be a CEO and a very successful man. And frankly I think people are tired of politicians like Obama who never had a meaningful day of private sector experience in their lives. They are tired of a professional politician BSer who is good for nothing more than flowery speeches and they want someone who has actually accomplished something more than making great speeches. Herman is for real whereas I think people have caught onto the fact that Obama is just an empty suit bureaucratic BSer who was never qualified for this job to begin with. I have asked numerous times what experience did Obama previously have in an executive position that qualified him to be potus? The answer? Crickets chirping…..
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:57 pm
Thulsa Doom
Hey pal, I am calm. Little josef is going all crazy tonight. And believe it or not, it’s about George Soros. LOL!!
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:58 pm
Doggone/GA
I always try to respond. Its the right thing to do.
josef
October 31st, 2011
10:59 pm
GLL
Oh, I’ve kicked a33, too…I’ve got six older brothers and grew up frequenting county line juke joints in Mississippi…and like I said, G-d forbid I ever be in the same room with you or TruthBe…I just don’t a33ume that I’m going to come out on top…
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
11:01 pm
“I always try to respond. Its the right thing to do”
And a response that is little more than a veiled insult is better left unsaid.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:01 pm
josef,
Just dont go ticking me off sir. I’ve downed many a cup of hot joe. Matter of fact I warm my freshly brewed coffee in the microwave I like it so hot. I kinda relaxed that habit a bit though. I read that the Iranians have the highest incidence of throat cancer in the world. Why? Because they smoke them nasty unfiltered mean cigarettes that I call the John Wayne cigs but also because they drink scalding hot tea. Doc tells me that scalding hot tea and coffee will damage the esophagal tissue in your throat and make you susceptible to throat cancer. With that I just may tactfully retreat from a hot coffee drinking contest witcha. I hope yall calm down and dont steal my job of professional needling on the jay bookman blog.
josef
October 31st, 2011
11:02 pm
All right, my Romany Pal (incidentall, don’t know if you know it or not, but our English word “pal” came into the language from the Romany word, pal=friend!), you need to man up here and challenge the conservative lot of liars and frauds on the 14 year old Soros sh*t…they’re giving y’all a bad name…ustase, they are!
Mick
October 31st, 2011
11:02 pm
doom
Same old, same old, he obama berry bad man while herman model 999, he be a berry, berry good man. He made lots of money that must qualify him as a master of the universe. How did obama ever get elected? It was as if the country was smote by a burning bush, who knows?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
11:02 pm
mick,
i’ll put my integrity and moral authority to the test against wto any day and that was my point to him……i don’t have the right to tell him how much he gets to earn any more than he has the right to tell me…..i hear your point….but the fact is that liberal social values are decaying the moral fabric of our society just as it has done in europe. That is a fact……take it or leave it, but it doesn’t change what has happened and is continually happening in this country on a daily basis
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:05 pm
GLL,
Hell I like you and josef so I hate to see yall gitting all riled up against each other. You may both be crowding in on my job of professional jackassery.
Yall be calmer than a Hindu cow and be good.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
11:06 pm
hmmmm… I bet real “men”, you know the manly types, demand to meet in parking lots….you know after they demand a meeting and then get one and then chicken out……
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
11:10 pm
Mick
Its not that Obama is a bad, evil man. Just that he is incompetent and had zero meaningful private sector experience coming into office. Typical of someone who has a leftist philosophy the man is of the arrogance that he, a bureaucrat of no executive experience, could solve things. And we all see the results.
As for Cain I just think it would be refreshing to see someone who understands the private sector which is what pays the govts bills to begin with and is the golden goose, I would like to see a man who gives a damn about budgets and deficits and who actually has executive experience.
And btw you’re a dang whippersnapper! Take that Mick!