Here’s what’s most damaging to Herman Cain

Things we have learned today about Herman Cain’s candidacy for president:

– It is quite plausible that Herman Cain harassed no one; clearly, not everyone accused of sexual harassment is guilty of that charge, and in the presumed absence of a smoking gun, we will never know for certain what transpired roughly 15 years ago. Even settlement payments don’t establish evidence of guilt.

– However, it is much less plausible that five-figure financial payments were made to each of the two women involved, as Politico reports, and that Cain, as CEO of the National Restaurant Association, knew nothing about such settlements, as he claims. That discrepancy could come back to haunt Cain, given that Politico claims to have seen documentation of the payments.

– This is not a case of character assassination or unfair treatment by liberal media. Any candidate for national office with such allegations in his or her past should expect them to become public at some point and should be ready to deal with them. It’s just a fact of life in modern politics.

– Politico reports that it had been attempting to get a response from Cain and his staff for 10 days before publishing its story. Yet despite that long time to prepare, Cain’s campaign has badly botched its reaction. It shows no sign of having crafted a strategy for how to deal quickly and forthrightly with the allegations, and that failure has compounded the damage.

(Case in point: The botched interview that Cain’s communications director gave to Geraldo Rivera Sunday night. Among other things, you don’t offer an initial national response to such charges via a telephone hookup featuring a relatively low-level staffer with no story to tell. You put the candidate himself on air and have him deal with it directly.)

– A campaign operation is always useful as an illustration of the type of White House a candidate would run if elected. Whatever you think of Barack Obama’s politics, he put together a highly professional, disciplined and effective ‘08 campaign that managed to defeat the vaunted Clinton political machine. Conversely, the impulsive nature of the John McCain campaign, from the decision to make Sarah Palin his running mate to his announcement that he was suspending his campaign during the ‘08 financial crisis, also reflected the candidate’s leadership style.

– Throughout his campaign, Cain has acknowledged that he is not a trained politician and does not have ready answers to many questions. Time and again, he has said that if elected, he would rely on a CEO’s style of leadership, which is to surround himself with good, competent, experienced people and take their advice on complex issues.

On foreign policy, for example, Cain has said that a president doesn’t need “to have extensive foreign policy experience if you know how to make sure you’re working on the right problems, establishing the right priorities, surround yourself with the right people, which would allow you to put together the plans necessary to solve the problem.”

– Cain, as a candidate, has not surrounded himself with good, competent experienced people. He has not demonstrated the ability to establish the right priorities or work on the right problems. Quite the contrary, as this example demonstrates, he has surrounded himself with rank amateurs who don’t know how to put together and operate a strong campaign organization.

The mishandling of the sexual harassment crisis isn’t even the most recent example of that failure. The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports today that Cain’s chief of staff and deputy chief of staff may have used tax-deductible donations from a Wisconsin nonprofit that they ran to help finance Cain’s early campaign, which would be a violation of both tax laws and campaign finance laws. (Among other problems, tax-deductible donations cannot be used for political purposes.)

If true — and the documentation is extensive — it’s a mistake no serious candidate should ever make.

– In the end, even if you judge him by the leadership style that he himself has advocated, Cain has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, and he clearly doesn’t hire people who know what they’re doing.

– Jay Bookman

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pogo

October 31st, 2011
5:42 pm

The only black people you will ever see liberals such as Jay attack are black people who have the audacity to stray outside what they view as the to be taken for granted liberal black political stereotype. To the modern progressive every black should be a liberal and if they are not, they are to be ostrosized in the worst way. Today Jay allowed people here today call Herman Cain an “Uncle Tom” and neary a word of warning to the poster was issued. This tells me a lot about you Jay. Your really stand for nothing other than liberal ideology. Integrity means nothing to you.

Matti w/cream and splenda

October 31st, 2011
5:44 pm

So, he’s a double talker who doesn’t like to be held to anything he said. What’s new? I hope this “news” item is dead by tomorrow. Repubs: Please DO send him all your money! God bless….

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
5:45 pm

Road to Victory: “Another OWSer got arrested for rape. Such compassionate little libs they are.”

Where do you get the idea that OWS are “libs”?

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
5:46 pm

pogo: “The only black people you will ever see liberals such as Jay attack are black people who have the audacity to stray outside what they view as the to be taken for granted liberal black political stereotype”

But, but, but!! What if he’s really not that bright and just not that qualified? What then?

Not So Casual Observer

October 31st, 2011
5:46 pm

jt @ 4:52,

Cain was not the Defendant – the Association was the Defendant, thus Cain had no power over the decison to settle or not.

If “priniciples” are the measure then the women must be unprincipled for not airing their grievances in court. I am SURE these would be the 1st two women in history to file such a complaint simply for the money.

Perfectly believable that Cain “knew nothing” since he was not the Defendant and a decision to settle is usually based upon the cost to litigate versus the cost to settle. This does not mean Cain knew nothing but the statement is plausible.

Road to Victory

October 31st, 2011
5:46 pm

“Cain has proved himself unqualified for the office that he seeks.”

Why, because he didn’t organize a community of idiots in Chicago?

Because he didn’t vote present more times than he voted yes or no in the Senate?

Road to Victory

October 31st, 2011
5:47 pm

“Where do you get the idea that OWS are “libs”?”

Because of their anti-American chants etc…

josef

October 31st, 2011
5:47 pm

Occupation

The same place he gets the idea that libs are progressives…

Doggone/GA

October 31st, 2011
5:48 pm

“Another OWSer got arrested for rape. Such compassionate little libs they are.””

Link?

Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!

October 31st, 2011
5:48 pm

Cain you reap what you sow. Remember Cain said, if you don’t have a job, it is your fault.”

Lets see whose fault it is when he is out of the GOP race.

givememyfairshare

October 31st, 2011
5:48 pm

he’s as qualified as the current white house occupant

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
5:56 pm

josef: “The same place he gets the idea that libs are progressives…”

True. [Sigh]

I like to think of the word liberal as a big fence that keeps the sheep in place — and money flowing into the coffers of Roger Ailes of course.

jconservative

October 31st, 2011
5:57 pm

I agree Jay. Cain has been “muddling” through assorted positions for decades and distinguishing himself in none. This campaign is another example of “muddling”.

To date the only guy the Republicans have out there who can carry the Independents in the Swing States is Mitt Romney.

Will Republicans bury ideology and nominate a winner or gamble on another loser like McCain?

I personally will not vote for Romney, but the polling evidence indicates he will carry the independents in the swing states. And that means he will win the 270 electoral votes to defeat Obama.

Not So Casual Observer

October 31st, 2011
5:58 pm

Welcome @ 5:45,

The idea OWS’s are libs:

They are uneducated, unclean, disorganized, poorly spoken and without any specific goals. They want someone to pay them whether they work or not and they want all of their debt forgiven. They look like daily.kos bloggers to me and no sane person could claim the daily.kos is anything but Liberal.

TaxPayer

October 31st, 2011
5:59 pm

It’s a pretty sad time for Republicans when they are forced to defend the candidates that they have. At least it’s entertaining watching them try. :lol:

Kamchak

October 31st, 2011
5:59 pm

…but the polling evidence indicates he will carry the independents in the swing states.

Gotta win the primary first though.

Independents will not decide the primary.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
6:00 pm

Cain You Believe It!: “Cain you reap what you sow. Remember Cain said, if you don’t have a job, it is your fault.” // Lets see whose fault it is when he is out of the GOP race.”

Ha ha, so true. I can just imagining hearing that charming, folky drawl of his as he intones:

If you’re cruising towards the nomination and suddenly your campaign is flatlining sooner than you can say “Gary Hart”, blame yo’self“.

F. Sinkwich

October 31st, 2011
6:00 pm

Cain is tops in the polls so he’s next for the anal exam excitedly performed by Jay and the rest of his lib ilk MSM.

Disgusting.

Too bad these amateur proctologists weren’t so interested in Hopey/Changey’s bowel movements back in 2007/8. Had the lib ilk media done their job back then we have avoided the misery of the last three years.

Pathetic.

josef

October 31st, 2011
6:00 pm

Jconservative

Which scares the h ell out of both “sides…”

Kamchak

October 31st, 2011
6:01 pm

Well

October 31st, 2011
6:02 pm

But, but, but!! What if he’s really not that bright and just not that qualified? What then?

His name would be Barak Obama.

Not So Casual Observer

October 31st, 2011
6:03 pm

jcon…@ 5:57,

Who would want a “go with the flow” candidate like Romney? So the dredful Obama wins in 2012, big deal!

With conservatives in control of the Congress, and given the mandate to neuter Obama, then everything the Executive Branch does, whether through exec orders or some other subterfuge can be over turned.

Aquagirl

October 31st, 2011
6:04 pm

I am SURE these would be the 1st two women in history to file such a complaint simply for the money.

And I’m SURE he would be the 1st businessman in history to harass a co-worker. Gosh, that never happens.

Jay is right, though, Cain has done a total faceplant dealing with these allegations. Glaring at reporters, grinding your teeth, and generally looking like you’re gonna slug someone is not reassuring behavior of a man who thinks he should be in control of our nuclear arsenal.

Newsflash, Herman: you’re not in your talk radio echo chamber. You can’t screen your callers and control the microphone. If you can’t deal with this, go back to your studio….after you drain a few million more from Republican pockets.

Not So Casual Observer

October 31st, 2011
6:05 pm

If Romney is nominated and wins then the Congress can control him.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
6:07 pm

Not So Cashz: “They are uneducated, unclean, disorganized, poorly spoken and without any specific goals. They want someone to pay them whether they work or not and they want all of their debt forgiven. They look like daily.kos bloggers to me and no sane person could claim the daily.kos is anything but Liberal.”

On the contrary. A great many of them are at least as well educate, organized, and well-spoken as, for example, the Herman Cain you’re so busy defending out the other side of your mouth.

As far as wanting someone to pay them without working, au contraire. That’s precisely what the rentier class does which the Republicans are working day and night to defend by rewriting the social contract to enrich them at the workers’ expense. We’re living in a country where work is more and more heavily taxed — when it’s even available — while wealth sits as so many bytes on a computer and earns money with virtually no taxation at all. So your claim is obviously false on its face.

“They look like daily.kos bloggers to me and no sane person could claim the daily.kos is anything but Liberal.”

Again, wrong. They have the comfortable liberal establishment organizations — the MoveOn.org’s, the unions, and above all the g-damned Democrats — on the run.

Liberal? Better have a closer look there. :)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 31st, 2011
6:08 pm

As Herman said “Let little Herman be little Herman.” :lol:

josef

October 31st, 2011
6:09 pm

K’chak

That lib thing and the obsession he seems to have with the posterior orifice….makes you wonder which ilk he courts

Lucifer

October 31st, 2011
6:11 pm

Cain, as a CEO, is accustomed to telling people what to do and taking no back-sas. You can tell this in his replies to questions. When he gets tough questions, his nostrils flare, his forehead becomes wet, his eyes turn red and he has a difficult time controlling his anger. What? Somebody is disagreeing with me? But I control their paychecks — their very existence. Do you want to find yourself in the unemployment line. I’m the boss, don’t back-sas me or I’ll fire your ass. Oh, but this doesn’t work on the national stage, Mr. Pizza Man. You’re just like the product you sell — full of hot air, crusty and you’re cutting the cheese for all to see :-)

TaxPayer

October 31st, 2011
6:12 pm

So! The Republicans have basically given up on having so much as a remote chance at taking the White House and have instead focused their faith on gaining control of the Senate and maintaining control of the House. What is the game plan, you ask. Well, keep people jobless was their first order of business. Then, they plan on going after the poor for they want the poor to pay more. It’s an odd strategy but if that’s the plan they wish to go with, so be it. Up here in north Georgia, the poor and unemployed majority are Republicans though. I wonder how that strategy will play out. They’ll need to put the AM talk radio folks into overtime in order to keep them conned through the next election.

josef

October 31st, 2011
6:13 pm

Luci

The thought had crossed my mind…

kayaker 71

October 31st, 2011
6:13 pm

Lucifer, 6:11,

Sounds like our chin in the air President.

Jay

October 31st, 2011
6:16 pm

Cain reportedly now admits — in a Fox interview taped today to air tonight — that he DID know of at least one case being settled for cash. A story that changes is not a good story.

Also, I find this interesting:

Too bad these amateur proctologists weren’t so interested in Hopey/Changey’s bowel movements back in 2007/8. Had the lib ilk media done their job back then we have avoided the misery of the last three years.

What about Obama’s past has been discovered after the election that we didn’t know about prior to the election?

I believe the answer is nothing. We knew it all prior to the election, largely because the media pursued and published it. It was the American people who decided on their own that they didn’t believe it or it didn’t matter. Conservatives don’t like to admit that fact, but it is fact nonetheless.

And if you think I’m wrong about that, show me where I’m wrong. Cite the facts that were not publicly known and on the public record well before November 2008, but have been discovered later.

saywhat?

October 31st, 2011
6:17 pm

I want to see proof Obama didn’t pay these women to make these allegations 15 years ago. Thats just the kind of thing he would do, like those bogus birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers. Obama needs to take some personal responsibility.

Jimmy62

October 31st, 2011
6:17 pm

I would say Obama’s performance in office belies your theory about Presidents running the White House the way they run their campaign. Once elected, Obama could no longer hide behind the fancy facade he painted, though the media does their best to keep up the charade. Of course they also didn’t dig in to Obama’s life nearly to this extent, and spun everything to help him rather than hurt.

saywhat?

October 31st, 2011
6:18 pm

It will be along time before stinkwich cites anything remotely factual Jay, and you know it. You must be in cahoots with Obama too.

saywhat?

October 31st, 2011
6:19 pm

Well Jimmy62, try and meet jay’s challenge to stinkwich, if you can, instead of making empty accusations.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
6:20 pm

Did somebody say ‘ilk’ ? :)

redneckbluedog

October 31st, 2011
6:23 pm

Jay, conservatives don’t care……Four words: Clarence “Coke Can” Thomas

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 31st, 2011
6:23 pm

Jay, have you also seen Herman’s claim made today that when the charges were brought, he recused himself and allowed his general counsle and human resource officer to deal with the charges….to which the head of human resources says she never investigated Cain or was even aware of the accusations….

Herman has got more splaining to do.

TaxPayer

October 31st, 2011
6:24 pm

And if you think I’m wrong about that, show me where I’m wrong. Cite the facts that were not publicly known and on the public record well before November 2008, but have been discovered later.

Jay! Everyone knows his long-form was not made public until well after his election! And just wait until we find out the truth behind his education. How do we know that he did not make a B in economics.

josef

October 31st, 2011
6:26 pm

Jimmy

You can bet the opposition dug into his life….and didn’t find much…I still don’t buy he’s squeaky clean, but if not, he’s d-mend good at covering his tracks…

TaxPayer

October 31st, 2011
6:27 pm

Of course they also didn’t dig in to Obama’s life nearly to this extent, and spun everything to help him rather than hurt.

You mean aside from reporting his collaborations with known terrorists at the age of eight, etc. :lol:

Kamchak

October 31st, 2011
6:29 pm

…and the obsession he seems to have with the posterior orifice….makes you wonder which ilk he courts.

josef

Must be an El Rushbo thingie.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
6:31 pm

Jimmy62: “I would say Obama’s performance in office belies your theory about Presidents running the White House the way they run their campaign. ”

In one sense this it true. From an ideological standpoint, many were surprised by the way Obama has run his WH (esp. where ideology intersects with management, as for ex. in continuing Bush/Cheney practices of secrecy, stand-offish relationship with press, etc.). But in this case I believe Jay was talking about the question, which is fundamental to the electoral process, of determining whether a candidate is capable of running a campaign at a sufficiently high level as a reasonable means of determining whether that candidate would be able to do the same with an administration.

The answer with Cain is clearly: NO.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 31st, 2011
6:33 pm

Box 26! Box 26! No wait… make that Box 23!

kayaker 71

October 31st, 2011
6:34 pm

The MSM, including Bookman, wouldn’t out Bozo for most any reason. He is perfect, he is devine, he doesn’t make mistakes. So what is there to say? If you have a perfect President, in Bookman’s spin, you have no criticism to make. What a bunch of crap!!! Bozo has enough baggage to make the most idle political pundit blush, but no one pays any attention. He continually makes mistakes with our money, yet he gets a pass. He is an unapologetic amateur surrounded by a bunch of socialist idiologs that are so far removed from mainstream America that it’s mere existence is a mystery to them. He has done more to doom this country’s existence than anyone in our history but Cain is the enemy, not Bozo. Cain is the wrongdoer, not Bozo, the master perpetrator. We will do anything in our power to keep this ner do well from coming to power, even if it is vicious, demonic and untrue. It’s time Herman put on the gloves.

F. Sinkwich

October 31st, 2011
6:35 pm

Jay:

“What about Obama’s past has been discovered after the election that we didn’t know about prior to the election?”

Not much in the lib ilk MSM, Jay, that’s true. Just one example of investigative journalism that might have been done but never was:

While in college Hopey/Changey said he actively sought out Marxists, socialists, etc., according to his book. Who where they? Why seek them out? What did he learn? Is that why he taught Alinsky principles as a visiting professor? Why didn’t he seek out MBA candidates? Why did he have absolutely no interest in learning about our founding fathers? What is his connection with Ayers/Dorn? Did he get a sweetheart deal on his Chicago house? How did he pay for his education?

Cain never would have survived those questions if that was his background. Why? He’s a conservative.

Hopey/Changey got a free ride from you and the lib ilk MSM, and you know it.

josef

October 31st, 2011
6:41 pm

K’chak

Ewwwwww

josef

October 31st, 2011
6:44 pm

Kayaker

Aw, where’s the optimism and sense of perspective? This country has survived far worse than him. He’s mediocre…

Truth Seeker

October 31st, 2011
6:44 pm

Tomorrow Jay will report on Kim Kardashian divorce.
Jay always follows the major stories of the day.

Mick

October 31st, 2011
6:46 pm

It’s kind of amusing to read yakers letters from an alternate universe and most gratifying to hear sinkwich turn green and probably smell bad. Really, anything worth thinking about in your worlds?

kayaker 71

October 31st, 2011
6:51 pm

joseph,

He is certainly mediocre but his ideas and policies are not. He has doomed this country to a debt obligation second to none in our history. My sense of optimism? My sense of perspective? It centers on getting rid of this threat in our next election and putting this country back to work…… something that this President has not had the sense and perspective to do. He is a constant danger while still in the WH and the sooner that he goes back to Chicago, the more this country will benefit. He is a social experiment gone bad in the worst way. We made a serious mistake in 2008 and America is paying the price for it now. Anyone who voted for this clown is complicit and to blame and deserves no forgiveness.

granny godzilla

October 31st, 2011
6:52 pm

Raod to Victory

My spelling is only slightly worse than my keyboarding skills, I admit.

“teh” is contemporary vernacular.

then you can haz cheezburger

F. Sinkwich

October 31st, 2011
6:52 pm

Lib ilk media:

(hands over ears) la la la, I can’t hear you, la la la

All hail Obama!!!

Lucifer

October 31st, 2011
6:52 pm

TaxPayer: Who gives a rat’s butt. Obama was a Harvard professor in constitutional law. He’s one smart cookie. Does your intelligence and education even come close? By the way, What color is the sky in your world? You seem to be out there in the Kramer zone.

granny godzilla

October 31st, 2011
6:53 pm

granny godzilla

October 31st, 2011
6:55 pm

road to victory…..

oh it’s you.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

October 31st, 2011
6:55 pm

“But in this case I believe Jay was talking about the question, which is fundamental to the electoral process, of determining whether a candidate is capable of running a campaign at a sufficiently high level as a reasonable means of determining whether that candidate would be able to do the same with an administration.”

Herman Cain’s campaign is light years better than anyone imagined it would be. What planet are you on? These accusations just come out this weekend and you’re already saying he’s guilty. What a joke.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

October 31st, 2011
6:55 pm

Why do liberals hate Halloween?

Jay

October 31st, 2011
6:56 pm

Sink, if those were relevant issues, Republicans should have and would have publicized them in the ‘08 campaign. The book you cite came out in ‘04, after all. And yet they didn’t.

You know why? Because nobody but the paranoid right believes those things are important in the least. You had your chance to convince the voting public otherwise, and you failed miserably.

So again, you got nothing.

granny godzilla

October 31st, 2011
6:59 pm

Woodstock Mike

Are you admitting on a public forum that you actually thought Herman Cain could campaign worse than this?

Cool.

Lucifer

October 31st, 2011
7:00 pm

Woodstock Mike: Because they have hollow weenies?

Joe

October 31st, 2011
7:01 pm

Not ready for prime time, obviously. Joking, and evasion are not ideal ways to deal with serious allegations.

Good Little Liberal

October 31st, 2011
7:02 pm

Jay

What did Cain do? What has he been accused of. You haven’t mentioned that.

TaxPayer

October 31st, 2011
7:02 pm

Lucifer,

What’d I do to draw your ire. I’m not Catholic. Or Mormon. Or Evangelical. Or…

Kamchak

October 31st, 2011
7:03 pm

What a joke.

The only joke is that this book tour is mistaken for a campaign for preznit.

And the rubes are the ones that fell for it.

Now (as we used to say back in my day), ain’t yo face tight.

Good Little Liberal

October 31st, 2011
7:04 pm

WOODSTOCK MIKE

Liberals hate everything.

Mick

October 31st, 2011
7:04 pm

yaker

You buy into the myth about obama and the debt, sorry to ruin your nightmare but it was the previous president who put us so deeply into the hole. Go ahead and complain about the stimulus but that was nothing compared to wars off the books, medicare part d, unwise tax cuts that cost us trillions, then finally all the interest on those trillions. So, please it’s OK if you hate mediocre at best obama but the previous guy is the reason why we are so far behind and off course today…

Good Little Liberal

October 31st, 2011
7:07 pm

Mick

Still trying to convince others of this nonsense. If there had been any improvement since the clown took office, I could see your point but its gotten much, much, much worse.

Lucifer

October 31st, 2011
7:10 pm

TaxPayer: Damie, Damie, why you do this to me Damie? Please Damie, let me go home Damie. What we need here is a good old fashioned exorcism.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
7:11 pm

Woodstock Mike: “Herman Cain’s campaign is light years better than anyone imagined it would be.”

Bwa haa. Come again … ?

F. Sinkwich

October 31st, 2011
7:12 pm

“You had your chance to convince the voting public otherwise, and you failed miserably.”

Sadly, you’re right Jay.

Unfortunately the left owns ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, AP, NYT, WaPo, and every other source of “news” in this country.

I do however dispute your contention that those of us on the right don’t think those things are important. They are. We know it. Thanks to the lib ilk media not enough know it.

kayaker 71

October 31st, 2011
7:12 pm

Mick,

Bush 43 is nothing compared to Bozo. The national debt was 10.6T dollars the day Bozo took office. The debt now is 14.63 T dollars. That’s a rise of 4T in the last three years. This is the most rapid rise in debt of any president in our history. In another year, if Congress doesn’t keep him in check?…..projected to be close to 15 to 15.5 T dollars. And who is going to pay for this. Certainly not me at age 74. It’s your kids, your grandchildren and you are not even upset with saddling them with so much debt. What the hell is the matter with you?

gr

October 31st, 2011
7:13 pm

Good Little Liberal

October 31st, 2011
7:07 pm
Mick

Still trying to convince others of this nonsense. If there had been any improvement since the clown took office, I could see your point but its gotten much, much, much worse.

Yep all 700,000 people who lost jobs this month(and last) agree….

OOOPS!
That happened back when it wasn’t worse, much much worse. Cuz minus 700,000 is better than what we got now, duh,,,uh duh du duh

Good Lord almighty.

Mick

October 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

gll

One man’s nonsense could be another man’s gold, with that in mind I would like to interrupt the scheduled political partisanship bashing and throw in this quote from steve jobs sister,
” He didn’t merely reach death, she writes, “he achieved it.” He achieved it with a sense of wonder and amazement, marveling, “OH WOW. OH WOW. OH WOW,” with his final words.”
Very interesting, indeed. I think I would like to go out in a blaze of awe and wonder in a similar fashion…
Here’s the whole story-
http://www.salon.com/2011/10/31/steve_jobs_sister_pens_an_instant_classic/

josef

October 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

Hate Halloween? Sshheesh…I’m ready for 150!!!! and they’re piling in…my own grand babies and kids from school…liberals are liberal with the handouts doncha know!

granny godzilla

October 31st, 2011
7:16 pm

that was me….

i cleaned up my cookies and now my notebook doesn’t remember me.

i wonder if it knows that i’m thinking of an i pad

ragnar danneskjold

October 31st, 2011
7:17 pm

You lost me with “Cain could not possibly not have known about ” a $10,000 settlement of litigation. CEOs normally are not involved in anything small like that. Unless it was six figures or more, there is no reason to not let the attorneys handle it.

Mick

October 31st, 2011
7:18 pm

yaker

What was the debt when bush took over from clinton? How much is the interest on 10.6 trillion? Your math is way too fuzzy – use a calculator please….

granny godzilla

October 31st, 2011
7:19 pm

we’ll be lucky if we get 50.

the cutie patooties make me melt.

Good Little Liberal

October 31st, 2011
7:19 pm

gr

Gosh. You are right. We should be happy that more people on on government assistance than ever before. We should be proud that our military and government helped install elements of radical Islam all over North Africa. We should be glad that they are killing Christians in Egypt.

You are soooo right. The clown is doing the best he can and this is as good as we can hope for.

ragnar danneskjold

October 31st, 2011
7:19 pm

Unlike the typical leftist career politician, who reflexively assumes the world revolves around him and that he must make a decision to kill a terrorist in the outback of Pakistan, a seasoned CEO has people who can handle the small stuff, and trusts them to handle it. It is the difference between executive competence and a community organizer.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
7:20 pm

F. Sinkwich: “Unfortunately the left owns ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, AP, NYT, WaPo, and every other source of “news” in this country.”

The left “owns” no such thing. Every single one of those outlets is friendly to conservatives, and above all, friendly to capitalism.

Your insistence only shows that you’re unaware of what a true left perspective really is, because I can guarantee you it’s not represented by the outlets you cite.

Well

October 31st, 2011
7:21 pm

The lamestream media made light of any questions surrounding, then, Senator Obama. Dismissed out of hand each and every one. The lamestream media set out to get him elected. He was. Those who voted for him were rewarded with no change.

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
7:22 pm

Unlike the typical leftist career politician, who reflexively assumes the world revolves around him and that he must make a decision to kill a terrorist in the outback of Pakistan, a seasoned CEO has people who can handle the small stuff, and trusts them to handle it. It is the difference between executive competence and a community organizer.

Waiting for your fascist savoir?

Lucifer

October 31st, 2011
7:22 pm

Republicans? There really hasn’t been a great Republican president since Eisenhower. Yes, that even includes Ronnie. They no longer stand on their convictions, they are lost in the political wilderness, are henchmen for the wealthy, and the current field of chuckleheads are two burritos short of a combo plate.

They BOTH suck

October 31st, 2011
7:22 pm

ragnar @7:17

That defense would sound great if the allegations had not been made about the CEO himself

This notion that he could have been asked, questioned, etc and didn’t know the outcome………… yeah……. right

YOU don’t even believe that

Mick

October 31st, 2011
7:22 pm

ragnar

Since today is halloween and I’ve never actually seen you, I could picture you in a megamind costume…

carlosgvv

October 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Not So Casual Observer – 5:34

You are apparently not aware of how much lasting damage a bad two term president can do. Abraham Lincoln himself would have a hard time undoing all this damage in two terms, much less one. And, I will admit that Obama is no Lincoln.

Good Little Liberal

October 31st, 2011
7:24 pm

Welcome to the Occupation

The networks mentioned have been listed as leaning left by every single fair source. Perhaps you are just so far left that anything to the right of you, you consider conservative.

Mick

October 31st, 2011
7:25 pm

kayaker 71

October 31st, 2011
7:25 pm

carlosgvv,

“I will admit he is no Lincoln”. Tell that to Bozo.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 31st, 2011
7:26 pm

Well, the first one’s showed up and it’s a cute little 10-month-old girl in her Dad’s arms. I never had the heart to ask her to rake the leaves. It’s just like a librul to play with your heart to get what they want.

Soothsayer

October 31st, 2011
7:27 pm

Mick

October 31st, 2011
7:28 pm

Speaking of two term damage? The previous guy broke the mold….

josef

October 31st, 2011
7:29 pm

Granny
Me, too…my favorite holiday…more even tan mardi gras

ragnar danneskjold

October 31st, 2011
7:30 pm

Dear Both @ 7:22, good evening, I find Cain’s story completely reasonable, that he recused himself from further participation in the matter. The rest of the Board of Directors should have participated if they were talking about any serious money, but not the target of the allegation. Haven’t we all said to another lady, ” you are about the same height as my wife”?

Dear Mick @ 7:22, actually my associate is named “Pinky.”

Welcome to the Occupation

October 31st, 2011
7:30 pm

Lucifer: “Republicans? There really hasn’t been a great Republican president since Eisenhower. Yes, that even includes Ronnie. They no longer stand on their convictions, they are lost in the political wilderness, are henchmen for the wealthy, and the current field of chuckleheads are two burritos short of a combo plate.”

Well said. Ronald Reagan is easily the most overrated president in American history, modern anyway. In the future he will be easily identified as the beginning of a long and precipitous decline in the nation’s fortunes, a turning inward to a world of pernicious dreams, a refusal to soberly confront enormous problems, and above all a decision to throw in the country’s lot with a financier class that has never had the nation’s best interests at heart, and doesn’t now after 3 decades of fattening in the field of deregulation and monetarism.

Soothsayer

October 31st, 2011
7:30 pm

After all them razor blades I stuck in the apples last year, I don’t suspect I’ll be having too many goblins this Halloween! (Just kidding! Don’t call the POH-lice, OK?)

ragnar danneskjold

October 31st, 2011
7:32 pm

Dear Welcome @ 7:22, good evening, “Waiting for your fascist savoir?” Actually Chauncey is enough fascist savior for a country for a lifetime. No more.