Cain reportedly faced sexual harassment complaints
The big political news of the moment involves allegations that as president of the National Restaurant Association, Herman Cain was the subject of complaints of inappropriate sexual behavior by two separate female employees, both of whom received cash settlements and left employment from the association.
The story was broken by Politico, which reports:
In a series of comments over the past 10 days, Cain and his campaign repeatedly declined to respond directly about whether he ever faced allegations of sexual harassment at the restaurant association. They have also declined to address questions about specific reporting confirming that there were financial settlements in two cases in which women leveled complaints.
POLITICO has confirmed the identities of the two female restaurant association employees who complained about Cain but, for privacy concerns, is not publishing their names.
Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon told POLITICO the candidate indicated to campaign officials that he was “vaguely familiar” with the charges and that the restaurant association’s general counsel had resolved the matter.
The latest statement came from Cain himself. In a tense sidewalk encounter Sunday morning outside the Washington bureau of CBS News — where the Republican contender had just completed an interview on “Face the Nation” — Cain evaded a series of questions about sexual harassment allegations.
Cain said he has “had thousands of people working for me” at different businesses over the years and could not comment “until I see some facts or some concrete evidence.” His campaign staff was given the name of one woman who complained last week, and it was repeated to Cain on Sunday. He responded, “I am not going to comment on that.”
The story has several levels. On the most basic of facts — two women complained of harassment by Cain and received financial settlements — it seems solid. Cain’s supporters are nonetheless charging foul, with his campaign responding that “sadly, we’ve sadly, we’ve seen this movie played out before – a prominent conservative targeted by liberals simply because they disagree with his politics.”
As you’ll see in this clip from Fox News, however, the Cain campaign is having a hard time bringing itself to deny that the payments were made:
Assuming the payments in question were indeed made, Politico has a journalistic obligation to report them. Such a record is absolutely relevant in assessing a candidate for president of the United States, just as it would be relevant in assessing a candidate for a corporate executive job.
Furthermore, the claim of conservative victimization doesn’t seem accurate. Democrats Bill Clinton and Gary Hart, you may recall, also had to face allegations of inappropriate sexual behavior during their presidential primary runs. Clinton survived it; Hart did not.
From there, however, things get much murkier. It is difficult to impossible to assess the validity of complaints made well over a decade ago by women who continue to remain anonymous, especially since we still have with no idea how extensive or candid an investigation was mounted at the time.
Politically, it is entirely feasible that such charges can redound to Cain’s benefit, at least temporarily, depending on how he handles them and whether additional cases emerge. His supporters are already defined by a deep alienation and distrust of both the political system and the media; such allegations could do more to inflame those resentments than to cast doubt on Cain’s fitness for high office among his followers.
It’s certainly not how Cain hoped to spend this week.
– Jay Bookman
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Mr Sunshine
October 31st, 2011
7:31 am
Lest we forget Clintons sexual escapades in the White House.
Lest we forget Kennedys numerous affairs and living Mary to die.
If ya cant beat em then trash em, eh Bookman?
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:36 am
Another Electronic Lynching by the liberal media.
Man, those Democrats can sure string em up.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
7:36 am
Financial Settlements, eh?
Normal
October 31st, 2011
7:37 am
Saw a clip of Geraldo giving someone in Cain’s administration hell about it. Fancy sidestepin’ going on…
Normal
October 31st, 2011
7:39 am
Good morning GLL, glad to see you’re back from all that OWS demonstrating…
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:41 am
Jay
Who are the sources? No sources listed, you say?
No sources are needed, right? POlitico was obnligated to report a story with no sources.
The standards that liberal will sink to are no longer unbelieveable. They are expected.
Normal
October 31st, 2011
7:42 am
Off topic, but an old canard from Sean Hannity…”Halloween…is teaching our kids to be liberals…because we’re teaching kids to knock on other people’s doors and ask for a handout”
Some people have no joy…
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:43 am
Normal
No, I was out gathering sources that I can’t list that say that Obama is a cannibal and a rapist, and I hear that you and Jay Bookman are involved. I would list my sources, but that’s not really needed.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
7:44 am
That’s what happens when you vie to play in the big leagues, your life becomes an open book and the skeletons in the closet get rattled. If he can’t stand the heat, get away from the pizza ovens…no sympathy here….
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:46 am
Mick
no sympathy ?
How about no sources.
Tommy Maddox
October 31st, 2011
7:47 am
Keep digging Jay; keep digging.
cosby
October 31st, 2011
7:48 am
Gee Jay…dig up dirt on the Republican Candidate but you sure have been silent on how Barry AKA Obama abuses his presenditial powers almost to a dictatorship. bypasees congress every chance he gets and how about his association with Ayers, ACorn, Right, theunions and using his ground troops to join the mob in Minn. but, well he ios a very liberal Democrat that you like – unbiased AJC..bull Hockey!!
Good Little Liberal
October 31st, 2011
7:49 am
Jay
I hope you are really proud of your electronic lyncing today. Nothing says Democrat like stringing up another Black Man who wants to achieve, but dares not play on the Democrat’s plantation.
Have a lousy day Jay. You deserve it.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
7:49 am
After reading Google news today and the AJC headline, prior to switching to Bookman’s blog, a little voice in my head said, “Bookman is going to run a thread on Cain’s alleged sexual misgivings”. Sure enough, there it is. The front runner has to be attacked, maligned and vilified for Bookman and the media to have a pleasant day. Sexual harassment is a waste basket term for get em’ for everything you can, while you can and the liberal media will ride this horse until it drops. It’s all they have.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
7:53 am
LOL — You whiny cons sure are a trip.
The guy was just being a typical Republican.
“She don’t realize how lucky she is. I takes what I want!!”
Mick
October 31st, 2011
7:53 am
gll
No responsibility on cain’s part? C’mon this is the game, he had to know but never really figured on getting this far. don’t blame the messenger, blame cain…
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
7:53 am
Jay
Why ever did you allow Politico to investigate this?
You mean old meanie you.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
7:53 am
It’s like I always say–Scratch most any pro-criminalization cretin, you generally find a sexually harassing misogynist underneath.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
7:54 am
So GLL, was it electronic lynching when it involved Clinton? Edwards? Spitzer? Weiner? Hart?
Or is it only electronic lynching when it involves Cain, Sanford, Ensign, Vitter and Mark Foley?
The suggestion from several of you folks that such things should not be reported or discussed is silly on its face.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
7:54 am
“electronic lynching”?
Cain deserves more than “that” for that awful, lousy pizza
Mr Sunshine
October 31st, 2011
7:54 am
This story reminds me of those payments Michael Jackson handed out due to his sexual abuse of little kids but we all know Michael wasnt guilty.
This being the case why put Cain on trial for something that didnt happen?
Jay
October 31st, 2011
7:55 am
It’s also interesting that as the Fox clip shows, the Cain campaign can’t bring itself to deny that such payments were made.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
7:55 am
electronic lyncing today
you not only mis-splead “lynching,” you forgot to add “for uppity blacks.” You got no game!
Guy Incognito
October 31st, 2011
7:59 am
I keep hearing he’s not a serious candidate. From all the weeping and gnashing of teeth by the LameStreamMedia, I get a different picture
Rock Us Like A Herman Cain!
Really?
October 31st, 2011
7:59 am
Really? J. D. Gordon had EVERY opportunity to deny the claims and did not. Why not? You don’t respond to trash maybe? Maybe but if it’s simply not true then say so. If you are the spokes person and the person you represent has not told you clearly on this point, then you shouldn’t say anything and, moreover, you should find another job because the person doesn’t trust you. If it was baseless, then deny it. Really!
Midori
October 31st, 2011
8:00 am
Stands @ 7:55
Tommy Maddox
October 31st, 2011
8:02 am
“So GLL, was it electronic lynching when it involved Clinton? Edwards? Spitzer? Weiner? Hart?”
Seems like those characters got nailed for things that took place in the present, while in or running for office, not for something that is claimed to have happened 20 years ago.
Y’all go dig up the EEO claims [if any exist] and see how it works.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
8:02 am
ha ha.
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/not-your-average-read/2011/oct/29/herman-cain-alabama-calhoun-tea-party/
Audience members included those holding “Herman Cain 2012″ signs, [...] and a black woman wearing a shirt that pictured Frederick Douglass and touted limited government and personal responsibility.
(well, I guess gettin’ one out of two ain’t bad.)
Joel Edge
October 31st, 2011
8:03 am
And so it begins.
“Assuming the payments in question were indeed made” I’m guessing there’s going to be a lot of assuming to come.
HDB
October 31st, 2011
8:04 am
If it’s fond that the payments DID occur…it only means Herman learned the first rule of political intrigue: you gotta pay to play!!
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
8:04 am
I see the conservative media is out to get Cain.
Tommy Maddox
October 31st, 2011
8:06 am
Hey Joel:
People make claims all the time. Rather than litigating/defending the issue, the Employer pays the claimant the cost of defending the claim.
Jerome Horwitz
October 31st, 2011
8:07 am
Thanks Normal – Since I live in a primarily conservative neighborhood guess I’ll teach the kids a lesson by sitting on the porch eating the candy and telling them to listen to their Uncle Sean and not become liberals expecting handouts.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
8:07 am
I see the conservative media is out to get Cain.
actually yeah, they are. Our Galtian overlords need for Mittens to be the nominee, and they were going to do this to pRick Perry if necessary, but since he’s done it to himself and Cain is the only other guy in Mittens’ way…
(not that I’m all conspiratorial or anything, but let’s get real. You didn’t really think they’d let the Pillsbury exec/talkshow host become Obama cannon fodder, did you?)
Senior Citizen Kane
October 31st, 2011
8:08 am
The Politico story says they’ve seen the descriptions of the alleged behavior, yet the story goes to great lengths to avoid saying exactly what happened. Politico’s sanitized description actually makes the allegations seem less serious than perhaps they were.
” …These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned restaurant association events and at the association’s offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:09 am
People make claims all the time. Rather than litigating/defending the issue, the Employer pays the claimant the cost of defending the claim.
That’s true to a degree, and it’s certainly a valid point to make in assessing these allegations, I agree.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:09 am
Great quote rec’ed in an e-mail yesterday. Can’t vouch for the authenticity of it’s author which is supposed to be the someone in the Czech Republic, but…..
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense judgement of a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problems is far more serious than Mr. Obama who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the Prince of Fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools who made him President.”
Guy Incognito
October 31st, 2011
8:10 am
Clarence Thomas
Herman Cain
Who is next lefties…..Thomas Sowell? Wow!
Y’all really hate the strong conservative black men. Shame!
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
8:11 am
I wonder….
Before this Politico piece, Mr. Cain was announcing his plans to “dial back” his campaign and media appearances.
Iz a puzzlement.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
8:11 am
Herman also claims that he respects his smoking manager because he does not smoke around me or anyone, he goes out side……. Herman, do you have any idea why smokers now smoke outside? Perhaps its the second hand smoke issue that you ninnies whine about with the nanny state poutrage.
Joel Edge
October 31st, 2011
8:11 am
Tommy Maddox@8:06
That’s kind of what I meant when I posted “assuming to come”.
Mid Ga Retiree
October 31st, 2011
8:12 am
My biggest concern about this story is the timing. It didn’t make national news until Mr. Cain became a leader in the polls. I guess the media didn’t consider it newsworthy when he was a second tier candidate. I just don’t think the national media has enough credibility for people to think they just now learned of this story.
stephen
October 31st, 2011
8:12 am
sssh. mr sunshine says we shouldnt speak about these accusations. you know, media bias and all that.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
8:13 am
(not that I’m all conspiratorial or anything, but let’s get real. You didn’t really think they’d let the Pillsbury exec/talkshow host become Obama cannon fodder, did you?)
But it would make for such an exciting last round of reality teevee. Who will be the survivor? In the end, there can be only one. I can see a whole season of episodes in the making already. Round one, the scrutiny of the birth certificates… round two… okay, maybe not a whole season’s worth of entertainment.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:13 am
And McCain slept with a campaign worker and Dan Rather was right about Bush’s military records…… the beat goes on.
Corey
October 31st, 2011
8:13 am
It’s not the liberals you Cain supporters have to worry about because liberals would certainly be absolutely giddy if Mr. Cain became the nominee. Look no further than Romney et. al. You silly people are barking up the wrong tree if you think liberals want this story to remain front and center.
Guy Incognito
October 31st, 2011
8:14 am
” …These incidents include conversations allegedly filled with innuendo or personal questions of a sexually suggestive nature, taking place at hotels during conferences, at other officially sanctioned restaurant association events and at the association’s offices. There were also descriptions of physical gestures that were not overtly sexual but that made women who experienced or witnessed them uncomfortable and that they regarded as improper in a professional relationship.”
Sounds like he may have said, “You look absolutely maaaaaaaaaaaaarveloous this evening” and when they found out how deep the pockets were, they filed a charge
Yes We Cain!
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
8:15 am
a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency.
which is exactly why the citizenry should instead put a guy who had never been elected to ANY office, who had spend the previous years spreading nonsense on AM talk radio, in the White House?
Doe. Snot. Compute.
Tommy Maddox
October 31st, 2011
8:15 am
Besides Jay – claims like this have to go through the EEOC where they are investigated, then advanced or terminated. If they look into it and find evidence of a meritorious claim, they give the claimant a “ticket to ride” and it’s off to court you go.
Politico should have gone to see if there was an EEO opinion issued. If there was not, then they are throwing the rope over the tree limb.
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
8:16 am
Once again, Jay, it’s nothing but a bunch of danged liberals who are behind this whole thing. I’m surprised the braggadocious Cain isn’t crowing about it rather than denying it! Wouldn’t surprise me in the least.
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2011
8:18 am
Seems like those characters got nailed for things that took place in the present, while in or running for office
You left out the “consensual” part. Gary Hart’s squeeze presumably wanted to be pawed.
Not that it makes any difference to cons, since the woman’s opinion isn’t a factor anyhow.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
8:18 am
Tommy, I’m not an expert on such things, but I don’t believe they HAVE to go through the EEOC. The complaints CAN get filed there by the alleged victim, but they can also be handled in-house, I believe.
willydoit?
October 31st, 2011
8:18 am
I thought having a sexual harassment case in your file was required for all elected officials in Washington?
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
8:19 am
… like Cain ever stood a chance to begin with …
Corey
October 31st, 2011
8:22 am
Gleaned from the story are two facts. Money was paid as a settlement, and Mr. Cain said he vaguely remember. Conclusion, some smoke there, but we do not know if there was a conflagration, a flame (pardon the pun)or just sparks.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
8:23 am
… like Cain ever stood a chance to begin with
no, not really, but per the right-leaning RCP, anyway…
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/president_obama_vs_republican_candidates.html
he was trending toward the second-best-actual-GOPer in head to head polling against Obama.
Bud Wiser
October 31st, 2011
8:24 am
Payments and settlements are made to avoid continuing legal fees over a long and drawn out period. It just depends on what the “definition of is, is…”
Everyone with a brain knows that the dems will spare the noose for no black man that chooses to be free and independent of their loving care, and instead elects to think for himself and ditch the slave-like following of the party line. Media lynching is only the beginning; soon some little twerp like Anita Hill will be ‘found’ to emerge from the shadows, or more likely another 15-year-old Tawana Brawley wanna-be.
We all know how those hoaxes played out, don’t we?
Tommy Maddox
October 31st, 2011
8:24 am
I don’t know, however, if EEO opinions are made public.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
8:26 am
yaker
I guess you were the last to get the memo or you just didn’t hear but the vast majority of the world considers obama a quantum upgrade over the previous guy…
James Kirk
October 31st, 2011
8:26 am
Move On
scott
October 31st, 2011
8:26 am
Who cares. Still a better option than the dolt that currently lives in the White House.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
8:29 am
Mick,
“The vast majority of the world”……. what a ridiculous comment. What in the hell do you know about how the “vast majority of the world feels”?. Just what you read in the AJC and what Bookman says? You have a lot to learn, my liberal friend.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
8:31 am
so now Herman Cain is Michael Jackson?
I reserve comment until I see Cain Moon Walk
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
8:33 am
“he was trending toward the second-best-actual-GOPer in head to head polling against Obama.”
so was St. Sarah of the Tundra … she never stood a chance, either.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
8:34 am
“so now Herman Cain is Michael Jackson?”
his hair caught fire while filming one of his commercials?
(was it set alight by the guy with the cigarette?)
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
8:34 am
What in the hell do you know about how the “vast majority of the world feels”?
Perhaps he can read polling information that’s been published in the past on this topic?
like this one?
http://www.pewglobal.org/2010/06/17/obama-more-popular-abroad-than-at-home/
(granted, it’s from a year ago, but I suspect you wouldn’t find GWB with those kinds of numbers at any point in his Presidency.)
Joel Edge
October 31st, 2011
8:36 am
kayaker 71@8:29
““The vast majority of the world”……. what a ridiculous comment.”
He’s probably right. A weak US president is seen as an advantage to many people of the world. However; I’m just judging by what I read.
Brad Steel
October 31st, 2011
8:37 am
comparatively, the biggest different between the high-profile democrats (clinton, hart and edwards) and the high-profile conservative camp (cain, thomas) is that the democrats actually were EFFECTIVE in getting some consensual delicious strange and all the cons did was harass uninterested women. REJECTED!
cons – no wonder they’re so angry.
Uniboob
October 31st, 2011
8:37 am
Now I know why that dude with the mustache was smoking the cigarette. Herman’s a sex machine. You damn right. A modern day Shaft….
Joe
October 31st, 2011
8:37 am
Lets talk about Obama’s girlfriend Vera Baker whom he had an affair with during the 08′ campaign. Moochelle Obama had her removed form the US and she now lives in the Caribbean. I think this is a more interesting story……
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2011
8:37 am
What in the hell do you know about how the “vast majority of the world feels”?.
Sez the guy living on a steady diet of forwarded e-mails.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
8:39 am
Cain will be so happy to know that he has such a loyal base of followers here. Stand by your man, cons.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
8:39 am
A weak US president is seen as an advantage to many people of the world.
So it’s a *good* thing when most of the world thinks your president sucks. got it.
Palin fan
October 31st, 2011
8:39 am
time for palin to come clean about her tryst with glenn becck… i mean rice.
much better mental images than cain dalliances.
jconservative
October 31st, 2011
8:40 am
GLL – “Who are the sources? No sources listed, you say? ”
Read the Politici article online. The sources are very specific.
The bottom line is that in 10 days the Cain canpaign has not decided how to handle the allegations.
And when they did respond they responded with the old “liberal press” allegations that do not and have never worked.
If Cain cannot handle this simple story how the hell will he be able to handle all the stories that will crop up if he is the President.
Besides, have any of you seen his birth certificate? The real one, the “long form”?
jm
October 31st, 2011
8:40 am
Cain. The next Bill Clinton?
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
8:41 am
“time for palin to come clean about her tryst with glenn becck… i mean rice.”
eeeewwwwwww… anyone and Glenn Beck …
I wonder if he reviews the “evening itinerary” with his conquests using his infamous blackboard diagrams …
Mick
October 31st, 2011
8:42 am
yaker
The previous guy started an unpopular war of choice, we can now look back on that ugly experience for what it was – a disaster in both terms of blood and treasure. You have a lot to come to grips with my in denial friend…
Joel Edge
October 31st, 2011
8:42 am
stands for decibels@8:39
Never said it was a good thing. Just explains the popularity.
Joe The Plumber too.
October 31st, 2011
8:44 am
C’mon where was the outrage when the accused rapist slick willie spent more time with his pants unzipped than zipped…….RACISM, I tell you because the brother might have gotten a little on the side now it’s troubling to libs…..lol. I could care who slick willie, W. , barry or Herman were/are doing, that doesn’t affect my life any more than adam getting hitched to steve. Seriously, this strong Black man has you libs showing your true colors..pun intended!
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
8:45 am
Herman could clear up all of this by coming out.
carlosgvv
October 31st, 2011
8:46 am
I cannot see myself voting for Cain. However, if he was not so high in the polls now, I’ll bet this would never have come out. This has a stink about it and seems to be just more mud slinging politics. It’s likely that all the candidates and Obama too have skeletons in the closet and worrying about Cain’s alleged behavior in the 90’s is the lest of my worries. Seeing my country gradually going from bad to worse each and every day concerns me a great deal more.
Paul
October 31st, 2011
8:47 am
There’s no such thing as a secret past anymore. Am not saying Cain is guilty as charged, just this case illustrates nothing remains buried.
It’s not one, but two. That raises an eyebrow.
Case also illustrates why, in many organizations, people in senior positions do not engage in chit chat, ‘how was your weekend,’ ‘nice haircut’ or anything that can be construed as personal, which can spin into a come-on, which can be read as harassment or inappropriate comments. You keep it strictly business. If it doesn’t involve work, it doesn’t get said. Of course, then you’re coldhearted and don’t care, but that’s not grounds for an allegation.
Oh, and people are slipping. Took twelve comments to read ‘well, Obama….”
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
8:49 am
The story has several levels. On the most basic of facts — two women complained of harassment by Cain and received financial settlements — it seems solid- Jay
Jay,
Be for real Jay. This happens all the time in the corporate world. CEOs get sued left and right and often the claims are completely baseless. But unfortunately its often cheaper to simply pay people off then incur hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal bills regardless of the validity of the complaint. You should have enough common sense to realize this.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
8:51 am
On another note curiously I didn’t see Jay’s article on cooler than normal temps a week or so ago. I’m very concerned about global cooling. Is jay going to write an article on the record snowfall and cool temps in the northeast? Snow in October? Where’s that global warming crowd today? Where dey at??? Doomy on the drive by.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
8:51 am
Thulsa – Jay acknowledged that point, as well.
Stonethrower
October 31st, 2011
8:51 am
I hope it’s not true. He’s a preacher and should be above reproach.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
8:51 am
Thulsa – 8:51 – the UK has had a warmer than normal October …
or does it not count unless it’s in the US
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
8:52 am
Jay
I will admit that i am looking at it as a journalist, not a political hack, so how you see it and how I see it are obviously two different things.
There was definite proof, sources, back-up sources, etc. for Clinton, Wiener, Edwards, etc. So far there is no proof about Cain. No sources listed, you know all those bothersome journalistic standards that gets in the way of sooooo much of your writings.
So pull the rope tight and kick out the chair, Jay. And I’m particularly glad that you are list FOX News as your excuse for printing a story that has no proof.
It might turn out to be true. At that point, I’ll comment on the accusation, but until then, I’ll leave all the slobbering to people like you who have no journalistic standards and sadly, no shame, but after all, you are a liberal.
BTW. Don’t you just love Midori’s comment at 7:53? Now THAT’S a Democrats that you can be proud of.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
8:54 am
It’s not one, but two. That raises an eyebrow.
I dunno Paul. Clinton had 7 women allege affairs including one who alleged rape and was deemed “credible” by the NOW president. Assuming the worst of what is alleged of Cain is true then he is guilty of making sexually inappropriate remarks. Being accused of saying inappropriate things is a whole lot different than being accused on 60 minutes of rape or being accused of affairs by 6 other women. If he is guilty then it is for nothing more than some naughty talk.
Uniboob
October 31st, 2011
8:55 am
Asking for Cain’s long form has suddenly changed context.
Misty Fyed
October 31st, 2011
8:55 am
Ha….Looks like the dems are bringing out the big guns early. Their private polls must have shown things they didn’t like. They are consistent if not creative.
Guy Incognito
October 31st, 2011
8:55 am
“He’s a preacher and should be above reproach”
The devil works the hardest on those who are the most devout. He already has the others
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
8:56 am
These same folks defending Cain so vigorously now had condemned those scientists in that “ClimateGate” thingy without so much as a pause for a deep breath once the right wing media and their polluting backers pounced. These same people did not question the folks at FOX when they came out and pronounced those scientists as “guilty because the polluters said so.” By the way, whatever happened with that ClimateGate. Any right wingers wanna take on that one.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
8:57 am
Paul,
Precisely. GB was warmer which goes to my point of it being unpredictable. Weather. We’ve been studying it since the 1800s, we can’t predict it 2 weeks out, yet people think they know with certainty that its going to be 4-10 degrees warmer in the next 100 years. You can’t make this stuff up. There are people who really do believe that we know this for certain.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
8:58 am
Ahhhh, but he SEEMED like such a nice, church-going, family man. (eye roll)
Just another horny old goat trying to get some from his young secretaries.
Well, at least he isn’t doing the Slick Willy, and denying it.
And for gawd sakes, you fake conservatives need to quit acting like he’s some sort of Marcus Garvey. (Like you xenophobes would know who that was! LOL)
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
8:59 am
WTH? Bookman clearly identifies Clinton and Hart in the text of his writing acknowledging that both had to deal with similiar issues to Mr. Cain, and all you can come back with is “oh yeah, what about Clinton?” Please Georgia, do yourself a favor and invest in a dictionlary. First word you need to look up is REDUNDANT!
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:00 am
I’ll bet the women were white. Wouldn’t all you liberals agree?
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
9:01 am
“Cain reportedly faced sexual harassment complaints”
BILL CLINTON “DID” FACE SEXUAL HARASSMENT (AND RAPE) COMPLAINTS.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:01 am
Thulsa – please. for the love of Willard Scott, PLEASE learn the difference between weather and climate.
Gov Rick Perry
October 31st, 2011
9:01 am
Brother Cain love the strange!
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:01 am
From the NYT last week :
and then there was that e-mail to the staff about traveling in a car with Mr. Cain: “Do not speak to him unless you are spoken to,”
MMMMMMMMMMMMM
Donovan
October 31st, 2011
9:02 am
Not to worry, Republicans. Apparently voters will still elect candidates who chase skirts and re-elect presidents who have extra-marital sex in the White House after lying about it on national TV.
Wait a minute…those voters are Democrats and liberal bloggers. Let me refresh your memories. Remember Jennifer Flowers, Paula Jones, and Monica Lewinski? These are the babes that decorate the walls of the Clinton Library
It seems that you self-righteous bunch of hypocites now find a compelling reason to criticize the responsible duties of the president with his social life. Where was that argument when Billy Boy was their elected darling?
Must we all go through the Clarence Thomas thing again? Is that all you have?
Now that Cynthia Tucker has been ridden out of town Mr. Bookman has no one else to conspire with other than that cartoon clown, Luckovich, who carries the water for the DNC and his liberal employer.
Nice try, Jay, but we have read this playbook before.
mike thompson
October 31st, 2011
9:02 am
How much money ?
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
9:02 am
And then there were two. Cain, it is plain, is a little insane. In Perry v. Romney, Romney wins, albeit bruised and battered. He hires some illegal Mexicans to fix him up. And then he gets battered again by President O. Who was it that said “I’m lovin’ it”?
Paul
October 31st, 2011
9:03 am
Thulsa
It raised an eyebrow because it was two in the same organization. No incidents while at other organizations, which is a big difference from the Clinton allegations. So that can lead to the question of, why was it limited to one limited time in his career? If true, is it indicative of him at just a particular point in his life, or if not true, is there something about the organization’s culture or organization’s member’s attitudes that made making such allegations seem worthwhile?
I’m not sure the inconsistencies of 999 or the immaturity of his world views was enough to shake his standing. One would think this might, but as Jay noted, it’s a perverse Party base.
off to the gym -
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
9:03 am
One more thing: I’ll bump plans with that brother any day.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
9:03 am
GLL, you’re rather desperately trying to inject race into this question.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:03 am
Taxpayer,
Perhaps you can have them global warming scientists write a paper on the unusally cool weather including record snowfall. I await it with eager anticipation. BTW have you started building your house on poles like they do in Asia for the rising flood waters? You know the ocean levels are going to rise 6,000 feet. Al Gore’s movie said so since Cuba, of which 1/3rd of it is mountainous with 5-6,000 foot peaks, will be completely under water in his movie. Junk science- a staple of every libruls diet. Goes good with ham and eggs.
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:04 am
USinUK – ” Thulsa – please. for the love of Willard Scott, PLEASE learn the difference between weather and climate.”
Maybe you need to simplify it. WEATHER can be destructive and inconvenient. CLIMATE can alter and eventually destroy eco systems and the organisms that depend on them. Think people and food.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:05 am
The righties just can’t seem to comprehend that yes it is possible that a false claim was made and that the accused (or the employer) decided that is would pay the accuser off rather than fight the charges….. its possible. It is also possible that the charges were accurate and that Mr. Cain was guilty of the allegations and that the company paid because the facts would have established the claim. The fact that a claim was made and money paid is that…a fact. The fact that at least twice this was reported and charges filed and that two accusers “made up” claims (as some would claim), acted to surmount the many pressures that align against pursuing these claims, and were sufficient that the company decided to pay suggests they had some minimum level of credibility that surpassed a “laugh test”.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:05 am
Paul,
I find it more interesting the timing of this. Kinda like the timing of Anita Hill. Curious timing indeed.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
9:06 am
and all you can come back with is “oh yeah, what about Clinton?”
Butch, you don’t think that most of the online
trollsconservatives here actually read anything besides Jay’s headline, do you?Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:06 am
Thulsa Doom – “Curious timing indeed.”
What, is this your first time at the political rodeo?
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:07 am
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:01 am
From the NYT last week :
and then there was that e-mail to the staff about traveling in a car with Mr. Cain: “Do not speak to him unless you are spoken to,”
MMMMMMMMMMMMM
Granny,
Hillary had the same policy when her and Bill were in the Clinton white house. Aides were not allowed to say hello to her or make direct eye contact with her in the hallways. I’ll patiently await your post on what a terrible person she was now that you have been enlightened as to this policy of hers.
carlosgvv
October 31st, 2011
9:07 am
Doom, if you knew anything about global warming, which you obviously do not, you would know that bizarre changes in weather is one of the predictions. It sounds like a contradiction, but global warming predicts some places can actually get colder. In the future, please get your facts straight before posting ignorant nonsense here and succeed in nothing except making a fool of yourself.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:08 am
his hair caught fire while filming one of his commercials?
(was it set alight by the guy with the cigarette?)
US — “bizarre” doesn’t come close to describing that commerical
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:08 am
Timing is curious? How?
You mean because he’s running for President and folks are looking at him very closely?
Who’d a thunk it.
Gov Rick Perry
October 31st, 2011
9:08 am
If the brother don’t fit you must acquit!
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
9:09 am
Headline: “HURRICAIN!”
Oh, you libs. fear him !
I said it before and you heard it here first ……………… Romney/Cain 2012 !
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:09 am
Thulsa,
Perhaps you can tell us all about Climate Gate. Whatever happened to that big deal. Come on now. You can do it.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:10 am
OH, SNAP!!!
What in the hell do you know about how the “vast majority of the world feels”?.
Sez the guy living on a steady diet of forwarded e-mails.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:10 am
Thulsa
That’s the first I heard of that rumor.
Got a source?
I’ll await that patiently.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:10 am
Maybe you need to simplify it. WEATHER can be destructive and inconvenient. CLIMATE can alter and eventually destroy eco systems and the organisms that depend on them. Think people and food.
Butch,
Lemme help you out there sir. Can you conclusively prove “climate change”. Well actually maybe you can since it has been changing for about 2-4 billion years on a constant basis. “Think people and food”? I am sir. And a warmer climate means longer growing seasons and more food for a world that now tops 7 billion. Its pretty obvious that you haven’t thought a whole lot about this and that you were not aware of the various benefits of global warming if indeed the planet is warming. Well now you’ve been learned a thing or two. You’re welcome.
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:11 am
1811/0311 – “Romney/Cain 2012 !”
Which if true, will almost certainly seal the Obama administration for another 4 years. The clown show has been fun, but is the GOP actually going to put up a real candidate anytime soon?
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
9:11 am
yes it is possible that a false claim was made and that the accused (or the employer) decided that is would pay the accuser off rather than fight the charges….. its possible.
Sure. It’s just not a straight-up bet a rational person would make, is all.
godless heathen
October 31st, 2011
9:11 am
Somewhat related: I saw a clip of Gov. Perry trying out some of his stand -up routine on PMSNBC this AM. Not bad. He might could give President Obama a real run for his money to be Comedian in Chief.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:11 am
Yes, the timing……. hmmm… seems the front runner gets more scrutiny which is all part of the process… but I am sure the liberal conspiracy machine had this for years and just waited for this opportunity….
pointing and laughing 
Adam
October 31st, 2011
9:12 am
Are you kidding? The conservative base LOVES this stuff. Sexual harassment is one of those things they view as government overreach. Men should be able to harass women all they want and at any time in any way they please because men are superior, doncha know?
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
9:12 am
I love the smell of desperate con in the morning
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:14 am
“What, is this your first time at the political rodeo?”
“Hillary had the same policy when her and Bill were in the Clinton white house. Aides were not allowed to say hello to her or make direct eye contact with her in the hallways.”
yeah! and I heard they had to pave her path with rose petals! and fan her with palm fronds!
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
9:14 am
Good Fight:
…………. and how many were there against Clinton?
By the way, “once upon a time” ……… I knew of a knucklehead lady who filed an EEO racial discrimination complaint against her boss. He let the EEO people come all the way down from D.C. to “investigate” this dastardly deed. Then they walked into his office to meet him for the first time and discovered he was also African-American. They took the next flight back to D.C.
I never laughed so hard in my life.
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:14 am
Thulsa Doom – “Well now you’ve been learned a thing or two. You’re welcome.”
First off, where did you learn grammer? Second, yes I am aware of the benefits of climate change. Without it , the Sahara would still be a fertile river and lake valley supporting communities engaged in farming and the harvesting of crops. I much prefer the barren wasteland that we know and love today.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
9:14 am
is the GOP actually going to put up a real candidate anytime soon?
Romney IS the real candidate. He’ll pick a Veep who a) doesn’t look like him and b) is vetted by the radical clerics who have veto power over such things, and then he’ll be off and running.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:15 am
Right Scout….I am sure you saw all of that in a Whole Foods. Personally, I think your story is a lie and I laugh at it.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
9:17 am
Aberrations in localized weather have already been addressed as part and parcel of the overall changes in the planet’s climate due to ACC.
Scientists often use the term “climate change” instead of global warming. This is because as the Earth’s average temperature climbs, winds and ocean currents move heat around the globe in ways that can cool some areas, warm others, and change the amount of rain and snow falling. As a result, the climate changes differently in different areas.
From a National Geographic article nearly six years ago…
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
9:17 am
stands at 9:14am – thas’ funny; d’ya think mitt the twitt can say “alahu akbar”? he gonna need to get some god-fearing in ‘im if he gonna take it to the o.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
9:20 am
” I knew of a knucklehead lady ”
That’s really all we need to know to judge this post here.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:20 am
“And a warmer climate means longer growing seasons and more food for a world that now tops 7 billion.”
says who? it’s not a “longer growing period” if there are more and more devastating floods (see: Pakistan, Thailand, Brazil, Australia, etc … and that’s just this year alone)
it’s also not a “longer growing period” if the insects that polinate the plants dwindle in number – you can have all the warm weather you want, but without bees, butterflies, etc, it don’t mean diddly – and the climate affects them
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:21 am
Granny,
George Stephanopoulous good enough for you? He talked about it a couple of years ago in an interview about the Clinton white house. It doesn’t surprise me and to be honest with you it may seem callous but there is probably a serious reason behind it. She and other executives are constantly pondering things and concentrating and probably don’t want their concentration broken by meaningless and cursory hellos from lower end aides. Every minute of the day is important and I’m sure she and other important people have their reasons for a policy such as this.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:21 am
Bosch – 9:20 – I summarized it as “kettle / pot”
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
9:21 am
And seriously, the conservatives are so desperate they are deflecting to climate change this early in the conversation.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 31st, 2011
9:22 am
Well, you just can’t trust women these days. Say Hello to one and next thing you know you’re being accused of rape and whipping out your You Know What in public.
On the other hand Cain is one of Those People. You know how they are about You Know What. I wouldn’t put it past him.
I recall how my buddy Joe Bill got arrested one time when he had to do No. 1 by the side of the road. On account of there wasn’t any bathroom around. Some busybody woman passing by called the police and he got put in jail for Indecent Exposure. Joe Bill never took to that all. He said there wasn’t nothing indecent about his You Know What.
Have a good Monday everybody.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
9:22 am
Good Fight !
Trust me ………….. I could give you even better one’s that that but that’s o.k.
I still laugh about it ………… and although we have debated many times I don’t believe I have ever called you a liar.
But of course that is your right.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:23 am
BTW. Don’t you just love Midori’s comment at 7:53? Now THAT’S a Democrats that you can be proud of.
why Thank You, GLL.
I aim to please.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:24 am
Since Cain’s 999 plan has not gone over so well, he should start reducing the taxation until he reaches a level that his constituency is happy with. Let’s see, how ’bout 888. No. 777. No.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:24 am
USinUK,
Sorry but that’s just the counter argument that I’ve seen from scientists who posit that there are very positive and measurable benefits from global warming. All it takes is a little common sense to realize that there are both positive and negative benefits from any change in climate. Surely you can recognize that. But if you don’t then please take it up with people who grow crops for a living. Oh, and if the permafrost disappears from soil such as vast expanses of Russia and or Siberia and other lands then you can add that to the acreage of arable land.
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:25 am
USinUK – “it’s also not a “longer growing period” if the insects that polinate the plants dwindle in number – you can have all the warm weather you want, but without bees, butterflies, etc, it don’t mean diddly – and the climate affects them”
Careful, you might get “learned”! Apparently Thulsa doesn’t believe in the effects of climate change or in the proper use of the english language. I’m suddenly realizing why the likes of Herman Cain are so appealing to him.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:26 am
Aww poor Scout….. Of course, I don’t have the stated objective of doing whatever it takes to beat Obama, which in your case has proven constant distortion and lies…..
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:26 am
“He talked about it a couple of years ago in an interview about the Clinton white house”
then, I’m sure you’ll ahve no problem providing a linkee
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:26 am
Hi Boschie
I love the smell of desperation in the morning
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:26 am
Probably just 2 white women going after Cain because he is a black man. Dang. Playing the race card is sooo easy. No logic or rhyme or reason for it. Just easy to do. No wonder the libruls love their race card so much. Us cons are going to have to adopt it more often. Me loves the race card!
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:27 am
Thulsa
he did? can’t find anything at all on it.
Got a real link to share with us?
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:27 am
And seriously, the conservatives are so desperate they are deflecting to climate change this early in the conversation.
If only they actually knew something about climate change, their lame deflections might be a welcome distraction from talk about Herman.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:28 am
“Sorry but that’s just the counter argument that I’ve seen from scientists who posit that there are very positive and measurable benefits from global warming”
which, again, are completely countered by worsening storms (hurricanes, floods, tornadoes, etc),
Jay
October 31st, 2011
9:28 am
I see we’re being treated to the 3rd level of global warming denial from Thulsa.
Level One: There’s no proof the planet is warming.
Level Two: OK, there’s proof the planet is warming but there’s no proof that mankind is causing it.
Level Three: OK, there’s proof the planet is warming and there’s proof that mankind is causing it but it’s gonna be good for us!!!
It’s called defense-in-depth.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:28 am
GLL played the race card, Thulsa and he’s one of yours.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:29 am
Jay – 9:28 – and that’s his final offer.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
9:29 am
Hi Midori!
Yeah, it’s pretty funny huh???
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:29 am
Want to know the difference between Democratic voters and Republican voters? The Democrats didn’t elect a black man as POTUS to feel better about themselves. The Republicans on the other hand will.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:29 am
Jay
A rabid liberal accusing someone else of trying to inject race into the situation. LOL!!!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
9:30 am
Well I’ll be…who would have guessed that this mornings topic would be about Herman Cain. Also we have a video clip showing Geraldo Riveria of none other than FOX news. While details of these allegations are still very much a work in progress there is no mention of the scandal involving the Obama administrations energy dept. that keeps growing each day.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
9:30 am
Personally, I think your story is a lie and I laugh at it.
I’m sure it’s ~37% accurate, the rest being embellishments designed to make some clumsy political point.
(Scout published a similar bit of yarn-weavin’ about how he made everyone within earshot understand the REAL take-away from the Anne Frank museum. Alas, the AJC no longer archives it… but one would, as Oscar Wilde might say, have to have a heart of stone to read it and not burst out laughing.)
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:30 am
“It’s called defense-in-depth.”
More likely, “defense-in-depends” cause it’s leaking.
rwcole
October 31st, 2011
9:30 am
No surprise here. The party of personal responsibility claims that it’s someone else’s fault.
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
9:31 am
Who started this game anyway, trolling for cheap gotcha sex stories?
oh wait that’s right.
File this one under that turnip truck full o Republican karma.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:31 am
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:26 am
“He talked about it a couple of years ago in an interview about the Clinton white house”
then, I’m sure you’ll ahve no problem providing a linkee
Or you can purchase Stephanopolous’s book. Amazon bookstore is ready when you are.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:32 am
dB – 9:30 – dammit! you can’t say something like that and not tell us what he said!
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:33 am
Thulsa – 9:31 – YOU made the allegation – YOU provide the quote. the interwebs are ready when you are.
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:33 am
And just for the record, the likes of Romney, Cain, Perry, Bachmann et al don’t scare me because they may win the Whitehouse. I’ve always been terrified of the idiotic and misinformed when it comes to positions of power and influence. But hey, that’s just me.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:33 am
If it’s “your” fault because you’re unemployed, whose fault is it when you sexually harass women?
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:33 am
Midori
Actually you aim to be a Democrat which will always please the bigots in the crowd.
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:34 am
Midori – “If it’s “your” fault because you’re unemployed, whose fault is it when you sexually harass women?”
The womans, don’t you know they are all just “asking for it” !
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:34 am
Jay,
I’m still waiting on your essay splaining the record early snowfalls in the northeast. You’ve got some writing to do. And while you’re at it please splain what fossil fuels the dinosaurs were burning when the planet was so hot and humid that cold blooded reptiles were living in northern Canada. I patiently await your latest climate essay,
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:35 am
Thulsa Doom
Hard to believe something like that would be so hard to verify…
Perhaps because it can’t be?
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:36 am
GLL- Go scurry under your bridge
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:36 am
word, Butch!!
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:36 am
TaxPayer
I believe if you had the intelligence to look back through the liberal posts this morning, you would see quite a few little racist remarks. Midori at 7:53 was the first one.
But then again, you would have to have the intelligence . . .
And yes, it is just another electronic lynching of a Black Man by the Party of George Wallace.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:37 am
USinUK,
Sorry sweetie but its not my job to provide proof of what Georgie said. He said it in an interview. Its probably in his book. Go buy it.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:37 am
Oh great…we’re back to the “it snowed, so there is no climate change” claims…..
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
9:38 am
I guess Doom has not seen the literal dozen or so of Jay’s columns on climate change. The latest about how one of the biggest skeptics said “it’s real!”
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:40 am
Granny,
He only spent a moment talking about it as well as various other topics and you have to remember it was years ago right after his tour in the white house was done. You can choose or not choose to believe it. Frankly I don’t care. Do you honestly believe that every word or every cursory statement that every one ever said is somewhere on google? If you do then you’re probably like Sheila Lee Jackson and you probably also believe the American flag was planted by astronauts on Mars.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:40 am
Midori
I calls them like I sees them. It is alright to talk like that . . . right?
Geraldo
October 31st, 2011
9:40 am
My sources tell me Cain cut a hole in all his pizza boxes.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:40 am
ok – I’ll bite.
what, exactly, is soooooooooooooooo racist about my 7:53?
can you make it 20 words or less? I’m on coffee break.
Butch Cassidy
October 31st, 2011
9:41 am
Thulsa Doom – ” And while you’re at it please splain what fossil fuels the dinosaurs were burning when the planet was so hot and humid that cold blooded reptiles were living in northern Canada.”
Wow. Apparently you are not familiar with the “Greenhouse effect”? Plants releas carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, which in turn creates a “warming affect”. Millions of years ago there was an abundance of plant life to suppoort a “hot and humid” climate, similiar to the rain forests of Brazil before they get burned down to make a road. In addition, the atmospheric conditions that existed during the Jurassic and Triassic periods and the gographic make up of the planet further lent themselves to a warmer and moister climate. Hope that helps, but I doubt it did.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:41 am
GLL — I certainly have no problem with you talking like that.
Project much?
You sure are desperate, aren’t you?
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:41 am
Bosch
There’s climate change? You mean the ice age is over?
Finally I can plant my begonias.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:42 am
“Sorry sweetie but its not my job to provide proof of what Georgie said. ”
actually, it is if you’re using his “interview” to say that Hillary was some kind of diva that demanded people avert their eyes.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:42 am
GLL,
Resorting to your usual lame attempts at insults once again. You really need to get a new spiel.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:42 am
Sorry sweetie [sadly Doomy must be wearing his speedos again to bring out his sexism] but its not my job to provide proof of what I claim without any proof Georgie said. <I claim without proof He said it in an interview. Its probably in his book but I have no ability to back my claim on my own or even a recent story by Fox or someone says “so what, Hermies not the only one
This has been another correction provide in our continuing series “stupid claims made by those without proof.”
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:42 am
Midori
Only desperate to engage a liberal in an intelligent debate And getting more desperate every time you post.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
9:43 am
Bosch: And seriously, the conservatives are so desperate they are deflecting to climate change this early in the conversation.
That’s what I was thinking….
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
9:43 am
Well, at least Biden can now tell rapist jokes and not feel bad about it.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:43 am
Thulsa
I certainly don’t believe anything you post for the very reason you have displayed this morning.
You can’t back up what you say.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:44 am
Come on cons. One of you tell us all about Climate Gate and how it worked out. Come on now. Thulsa and GLL have shown themselves to be incapable. How about kayaker. Any other cons care to give it a try.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:45 am
Midori
What’s racist about your comment about a Black Man being attacked by a liberal media with no proof and you say “I takes what I want?”
I can no more explain that to you than I can explain to a KKK member why they are racist. it’s just a matter of common decency. Some of us have it. Some don’t.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
9:45 am
Keep up – 9:37 – have we ever left it???
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:46 am
The cons try to deflect to climate change but when they are called out on that, they fall flat again. Come on cons. Climate Gate was the big topic raised by the right wingers. How’d that work out for ya.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
9:46 am
GLL: If you want to engage in an intelligent debate, how about you pick a topic and we’ll start. Otherwise stop making the claim.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:46 am
TaxPayer
I am incapable of explaining something completely off subject to you.
Yes, I do understand my limitations as to explaining anything to you.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:47 am
Bosch,
I read em all Bosch. My belief is that the earth is in a slight warming trend. My belief is also that man made warming probably is a small part of the equation but we don’t know how much of a factor it is. To say exactly how much or how significant we are contributors is pure folly. No one really knows for sure and no one can actually project that the planet will be 4-10 degrees warmer in the next century with certainty. To posit such is pure foolishness. Rather than reading and believing everything that Jay writes you should take a moment and realize that he himself is not a scientist. Last thing Bosch. I watched a comprehensive study on national geographic of the study being done on antarctic ice cores. The conclusion of the scientists is that the earth is warming. So what is the big fear in all this Bosch? The only huge negative I can see is ocean levels rising 80 feet. But you know what? The same scientists who said this could happen also said that the lag time between when this would happen and all the ice completely melting would be several centuries if not thousands of years. That’s all I need to know sir because we likely won’t even be burning fossil fuels several centuries from now anyway. Or if we do burn them it will be on a limited basis. And if you think the rest of the world like China and India are going to quit burning fossil fuels just because western scientists say its bad then I have some oceanfront property in Omaha I would like to sell to you.
godless heathen
October 31st, 2011
9:47 am
“This has been another correction provide in our continuing series “stupid claims made by those without proof.”
Is this Keep talking about the Politco report?
Clarence Thomas
October 31st, 2011
9:47 am
What’s that you say about a pubic hair on a coke can? That sounds “vaguely” familiar.
HDB
October 31st, 2011
9:48 am
“He’s a preacher and should be above reproach”
Just reminded me what PTL really stood for:
Pass the Loot
Pay the Ladies
Part Thy Legs
Purchase the Lamborghini
Pay the Lawyers
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:48 am
USinUK…. well we do seem to leave it for a month or so in the summer…although I am sure because it is winter in the Southern Hemisphere, they could trot it out. As noted this summer, the heat and drought of course is not proof of anything but snow is proof of no climate change.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:48 am
Adam
How about the one that Jay started.
Why isn’t this a form of electronic lynching of a Black man by the media? No proof. No sources. That’s the same standard that the Democratic mobs in the South used when they Lynched Black men simply because of a rumor.
Your turn.
larry
October 31st, 2011
9:49 am
Mr. Cain, Mr. Cain ………………………….sir, is it true you sexually harrassed two women ?
” I HAVE NO IDEA”
He has the same answer to everything.
Armed Liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:49 am
I really love this morning’s comments.
Sweet sweet right-wing desperation mixed in with some misogyny, back-handed racism, and fear.
Thanks cons, you’ve made my morning!!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:49 am
Pay the Lawyers
Well I personally don’t see a problem with this one
scott
October 31st, 2011
9:50 am
Too bad Obama never received the same scrutiny that Cain is receiving. Ridiculous.
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
9:50 am
Well, the global climate sure is warming for Cain
(just helpin a diversion troll brotha out yknow)
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:50 am
GLL,
I hardly expected you to know anything about climate change and I am glad to see you finally admit it. Good show.
larry
October 31st, 2011
9:51 am
And i love the fact that most of the Repubs on here are blaming the Democrats for the story when a likely source is the Romney camp.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
9:51 am
GLL: My understanding is that there is plenty of proof and at least a couple of sources. Did you read the article?
As for the racism angle, I am choosing not to play that game. I don’t think that would contribute to the “intelligent” part of the debate.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:51 am
TaxPayer
What I know, and what I can make you understand are two completely different things.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:52 am
Butch Cassidy,
Loudly proclaiming at 9:41 the greenhouse effect doesn’t bolster your argument. We are all familiar with the concept. You showed nothing.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
9:54 am
Adam
What are the sources? And yes I read the articles.
I found out that Obama is a rapist. There are plenty of proof and several sources. Now do you believe that Obama is a rapist?
And you are choosing not to “play the game” of racism. So you can’t bring yourself to discuss it.
And this is what you call intelligent debate. There is plenty of proof which you can’t state and you won’t talk about the elephant in the living room.
See what I mean?
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
9:54 am
Armed Liberal,
“Sweet sweet right-wing desperation mixed in with some misogyny, back-handed racism, and fear.”
Almost, I’d say, at a frenzied pace as well! Geez!!
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:55 am
And Thulsa finally concedes that the true extent of his knowledge regarding climate change is based on his beliefs after watching a national geographic show. Still, not a single con can back up and tell us all about that big issue surrounding climate scientists that was labeled Climate Gate. FOX sure made a big deal out of it and the cons jumped on board that one without so much as raising the first question. Yet, FOX comes out with questions about their man, Cain, and now they have questions.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:55 am
scott
October 31st, 2011
9:50 am
Too bad Obama never received the same scrutiny that Cain is receiving. Ridiculous.
yes your statement is most certainly ridiculous
Oh and if that statement WERE true it would certainly point out the major incompetence of the GOP now wouldn’t it?
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:55 am
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
9:35 am
Thulsa Doom
Hard to believe something like that would be so hard to verify…
Perhaps because it can’t be?
Granny,
Kinda reminds me of when last week you loudly proclaimed that you and your family had reduced your carbon footprint by 50%. Really? And you know this how? And you can prove this to the rest of us how? What a pile of complete BS. You’re dismissed ma’am.
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
9:55 am
dammit! you can’t say something like that and not tell us what he said!
ok, UnU, I’ll summarize.
(mind you, I’ve actually seen the exhibit he’s talking about.)
Scout gets a tour of the Anne Frank museum. Scout says, at the end, loud enough for everyone to hear REAL GOOD how this just makes y’all ‘preciate how important that Second ‘Mendmunt is, to keep this kinda crazy stuff from ever happening here. And then — this is the classic bit of Scouty bluster — he says “you could hear a pin drop.”
Presumably because they all recognized his Christ-like wisdom and not because, you know, this loud-mouthed a-hole is saying entirely inappropriate things at this time and place.
but seriously, if I can ever dig out an archive, I’ll share it with the class.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
9:57 am
How funny…GLL is accusing people of being rapist… I can remember when he threatened legal action when someone asked him just to deny it Glen Beck style. But that does seem to bring up that the extreme right wing tool.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
9:58 am
GLL,
I’ve seen what you “know” and it boils down to lame attempts at insults followed by denial. Look back at your own posts if you dare. I know you though. You will not. You will continue to resort to your lame attempts at insults. It is all you have.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
9:59 am
Oh Lordy, keep up with his speedos and zeus statements. Sooo predictable. Does this man never cease fantasizing about me? I wonder what ever made him come up with the terms speedos and zeus? I’m sure Freud knows why. Maybe josef can help find you a ahem friend.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
9:59 am
Oh give me a break GLL – it’s not as though he doesn’t talk like that.
Or is it “racist” of me to make that observation?
Since when do I need YOUR permission to ridicule other blacks?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
10:00 am
SFD, now that is funny. And that one I can believe Scout did. Which just adds to the impression of “stupid american tourist”
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:01 am
Doom,
You can certainly interpret documentaries how you want, but it certainly is not foolish to posit the effects of this.
What is it you guys are always howling about your children and grandchildren???
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:02 am
TaxPayer
I, like most people who actually read instead of paying attention to the hysterics of the people that said that Miami would be under water by 2010, know that how much effect the human race has had on that change has not been proven.
Now please. Lets have some more finger wagging and out and out lying. You are doing so well.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:03 am
Midori
Like I said: Common decency. You either have it or you don’t.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:03 am
Thulsa
You’re right.
Without risking my super secret identity I can’t provide you with proof
that we cut out one commute entirely via telecommuting, changed the other from 60 miles round trip to 12 miles, dropped our weekly cost for gas to about 15.00 and had a home energy audit and followed the recommendations there in.
BUT
you claim something that should be verifiable and you can’t do it.
That and I have something you just don’t have here….credibility.
Thusla Doom? More like Forsythe Pendleton Jones III.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:03 am
Taxpayer,
It was the most extensive study to date on ice cores and has been written about extensively. But go ahead and wallow in your ignorance if you must. And keep in mind that the scientists had a pro global warming agenda. My only point is that they did agree that massive levels of oceanic rising would occur likely over several thousand years due to the lag effect between warming and refreezing, etc. Other than that can any librul on here please stand up and point out what is so dang chicken little scary about overall temps rising 4-10 degrees if catastrophic ocean rising levels would take place over thousands of years? Crickets chirping…. Can just one of you come up with a plausible reason as to why the earth warming a little would be so catastrophic if the oceans rising point is mute? Doomy is waiting………….
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
10:04 am
Given his pronounced proclivityt for Foot-in-Mouth disease recently, his goofy non-denial strikes me as the epitome of Herman DoubleSpeak. The man,as Ive noted, has a huge problem with veracity.
And a certain someone here really has their knickers in a big time twist this morning about this topic, huh?
Ironically, that blogger is what he hates – a throwback to the good old days of arch-”conservatives” like his beloved George Wallace…
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
10:04 am
who is adam? is that like asking: “who is john galt?”? please, oh please, can somebody enlighten me – all are welcome, progressives and regressives alike. thanks.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:04 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
you can remember my threatening legal action.
You are a liar.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
10:05 am
The rightie posters sure do have lots of fantasies about others having fantasies about them…… Recon, Thulsa, etc. Although I guess is the female posters are doing a binge and purge diet, being called sweetie certainly helps them purge daily.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
10:05 am
herman is against sexaul harassment in much the same way he’s against abortion. ya know – it’s a personal choice and gubmint has no place regalatin’ it, sorta.
jm
October 31st, 2011
10:07 am
Chris Matthews slams Obama
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67185.html
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:08 am
“Can just one of you come up with a plausible reason as to why the earth warming a little would be so catastrophic if the oceans rising point is mute?”
Because it effects the ecology of most systems — we are able to see much too quickly certain ecological systems change where we weren’t able to before, it’s like evolution at an increased speed.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:08 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
Speaking of fantasies: are you going to address your lie or will it just become the latest in a very long list?
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:08 am
Granny,
You also stated last year that you and your entire family were all fully employed and doing better under Obama then you had ever done under Bush. That may very well be true. However, there is the incredible difference in unemployment numbers- the average under Bush was 5.6% unemployment if I remember correctly, and well over 9% under Obama including sky high unemployment amongst blacks. Given the raw data I find it incredibly difficult to believe that you and your entire family are absolutely thriving under Obama and were not faring near as well under W. The numbers don’t lie Granny. And if we went by the numbers then your anecdotal evidence of well being strains credulity.
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
10:08 am
“Presumably because they all recognized his Christ-like wisdom and not because, you know, this loud-mouthed a-hole is saying entirely inappropriate things at this time and place.”
ohsweetjeebus.
***facepalm***
it’s people like him that give ‘muricans a bad name.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:09 am
hmmm. Don’t seem to remember much in the press about Bill Clinton & his philandering while he was a candidate for President. Appears the fishing expedition hauled in some unexpected catches. If Cain was unaware of the complaints, I am not sure he would be all that aware of the payments. Politico sadly has an obligation to print the names, and get statements from the payoffees.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:09 am
GLL,
Is he making stuff up again? SSDD with tweedledee. Dang I’m like Jesse Jackson with the rhymes today. I’m so good at it that maybe the preacher can secure a beer distributorship for me like he did his son.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
10:10 am
Like I said: Common decency. You either have it or you don’t.
says the resident expert who does not.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
10:10 am
Now there are the cons that I have come to know and love so well giving up their usual hate for all to see. Good show GLL and Thulsa. So predictable. So, either one of you care to tell us all about Climate Gate. Come on now. You can do it. Yes you can.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:11 am
Thulsa
Uh Uh Uh
never ever said “absolutely thriving”
yep, you are more Forsythe Pendleton Jones III than Thulsa Doom.
More lies aren’t helping your case.
OOOPs that’s right you never did make the case.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:11 am
Funny thing, Obama has been a disaster for blue collar workers – yet the unionized mafia section of the blue collar work force worships both Obama & the Democrats. You are witnessing the depression for blue collar folks. They are the ones that really need a better representation – like a party that does NOT think “free trade” agreements are a benefit for the naton.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
10:12 am
Thulsa Doom
The boy had his nose up my rear end for months. He spent hours rifling through every post I wrote and now he talks about OTHER people’s fantasies.
Gotta run. Good to see that you are still here posting logical and intelligent posts while the liberals are . . . . well you know.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:13 am
Why don’t we discuss the Progressive finest accomplishment – Prohibition. You remember that. Got a constitutional amendment passed, then repealed. Asinine idealism masquerading the benevolent, and unassailable, wisdom. Yuk, yuk.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
10:13 am
Midori,
It is rather humorous to see GLL make claims about “common decency”. Isn’t it.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:14 am
Because it effects the ecology of most systems — we are able to see much too quickly certain ecological systems change where we weren’t able to before, it’s like evolution at an increased speed.-Bosch
Bosch,
Yes Bosch. And this has been going on for billions of years before man ever got here in the last 6,000 years. You may want to check the fossil record sir but species and ecological systems have been dying off and going extinct forever. If you don’t believe that then just ask the dinosaurs. And do you not understand that cataclysmic natural events such as volcanic eruptions, meteors, etc. have changed nature and ecological systems overnight many times over the span of the earth? This is nothing new sir.
DBCOOPER
October 31st, 2011
10:14 am
I think I smell a RAT!
Or I have a pubic hair on my can of Coke. On of the two?
larry
October 31st, 2011
10:15 am
HEADLINE: AJC, SKEPTIC FINDS HE NOW AGREES GLOBAL WARMING IS REAL .
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/skeptic-finds-he-now-1213107.html
Midori
October 31st, 2011
10:15 am
Tax – his slip is showing.
big time.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:16 am
GLL: No, I don’t see what you mean, unless you’re trying to make a false point that I am saying something without proof, and that racism is somehow key to the whole issue. I don’t think it is. I think the issue is sexism.
Anyway, it doesn’t seem you’ve read the article if you think there’s no proof the allegations were made and that they were paid off and signed confidentiality agreements.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:16 am
GLL,
The man does get obsessed with others. Personally I don’t understand his fascination with my body but I guess it is what it is.
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2011
10:16 am
[sadly Doomy must be wearing his speedos again to bring out his sexism]
I think it’s there all the time, since he thinks if Cain is guilty then “it is for nothing more than some naughty talk.”
There are Doomies everywhere in the world. They prattle about their speedo workouts even when women ask them to stop, then whine when they get hit with sexual harassment complaints.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
10:18 am
Our little north Georgia counties of majority cons finally made a little headway against prohibition when they recently started allowing the sale of alcoholic beverages through package stores. The lure of the tax dollar was just too strong. That and the loss of the tax dollars to some adjacent counties and nearby towns. Oh well. Prohibition, like anti-abortion and other laws aimed at telling people how to live their lives never were very good ideas.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:18 am
Thulsa: And keep in mind that the scientists had a pro global warming agenda.
DARN THOSE KOCH BROTHERS AND THEIR WARMING AGENDA!
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:19 am
Granny,
Perhaps you did not use the word thriving. But you certainly said that you and everyone in your family had jobs and were doing well under Obama. Splitting hairs doesn’t change what you said. And the raw unemployment numbers, particularly amongst blacks, doesn’t change the fact that your anecdotal evidence that your whole family is doing very well is rather difficult to believe. I’ll take your word for it but as I said given the raw data it does indeed strain credulity.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:19 am
Adam with the Koch brothers card! Soooo predictable.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:19 am
Doom,
It’s the rate that it’s happening. Many ecological systems can’t adapt quickly enough to the changes because they are occuring too quickly.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:20 am
Paddy O: Obama has been a disaster for blue collar workers
Well, this should be good – How exactly is that true, Paddy?
Down in Albany
October 31st, 2011
10:20 am
Anything to bash the Republicans and continue the lovefest with Obama (vieing for the “Worst President in History” award)_
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:21 am
Aquagirl,
You joining keep with his fascination with my body? Its cool. I knows you dig me. Oops. I better watch it. I could get hit with a sexual complaint over ahem inappropriate sexual comments.
wordy
October 31st, 2011
10:22 am
see you later Cain
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
10:23 am
Aquagirl, “naughty talk” is just another derivative of “man talk”, “boy’s club”, “she was asking for it” or other nonsense. Amazing how they try to deflect
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:23 am
Thulsa: It’s a legitimate point to make. They funded the study that proved Climate Change data was real and shows that Climate Change is, in fact, happening due to the causes that have been presented for years (CO2 and man’s influence).
You’re the one who said the people who funded the studies have a pro warming agenda. The study the Koch Bros. funded added to evidence of Climate Change being real. Do you still say that?
Don't Tread
October 31st, 2011
10:24 am
“Clinton survived it”….only to go on to commit some more while in office, then lie about his little escapades under oath.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:24 am
Thulsa
“you certainly said that you and everyone in your family had jobs and were doing well under Obama”
We are. All employed. All making mortgage payments. All paying taxes.
All pretty damn cute too.
Is your family all slackers? Sucking off the government teat?
Do you need our help finding employment for you or your family?
What about the guy who was looking for cell tower installations?
How about calling the UFW? They need help.
Now back to the back up you are unable to find.
Find anything yet?
larry
October 31st, 2011
10:24 am
Prohibition was a progressive accomplishment ? Um……….. yeah? From Wikipiedia…….
Prohibition in the United States was a major reform movement sponsored by evangelical Protestant churches, especially the Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, Disciples and Congregationalists from the 1840s into the 1920s. Kansas and Maine were early adopters.
When did evangical Protestants become progressives ?
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
10:25 am
“Well, this should be good – How exactly is that true, Paddy?”
because they were in EXCELLENT shape when he took office.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
10:25 am
Doom + speedos?
where’s the puke emoticon?
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:25 am
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:19 am
Doom,
It’s the rate that it’s happening. Many ecological systems can’t adapt quickly enough to the changes because they are occuring too quickly.
Bosch,
With all due respect that’s just your opinion and is not hard evidence. Nature is far more resilient than you give it credit for. Hell look at the area around chernoby the world’s worst manmade ecological disaster. Nature has completely reclaimed the area despite the high levels of radiation. And the gulf as well as Alaska have made comebacks from oil spills. I know because I have a condo in gulf shores and the sea life there is flourishing. Just ask anyone who went snapper fishing there last season. The snapper were far bigger than usual.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:25 am
Granny: What about the guy who was looking for cell tower installations?
What the hell?
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
10:26 am
Thulsa has found out about ice core samples from national geographic. I wonder if he has seen a show that talks about Milankovitch cycles yet and how those ice core samples can be tied to them by way of a transformation of spatial data to the time domain though the use of the Fourier transform.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
10:26 am
Corzine (D) is an idiot. Drove MF Global into bankruptcy in 2 short years
Democrats (any if the left of the moderates) are clueless
Don’t listen to the charlatans
godless heathen
October 31st, 2011
10:27 am
Read this and see if you think Muller was a Climate Change skeptic in 2008?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703514404574588673072577680.html
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:27 am
Adam
Was that you? Installers?
Seems Thulsa’s family has employment problems.
Can you help him out?
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:28 am
Midori,
Another adoring fan. Thank you. Me love you long time. How’s that rape victim of W doing? Is she getting counseling and medication for her paranoid schizophrenia? And are you stil believing crazy stuff andl posting links to people so lacking in credibility that I can also sell you a beachfront condo in Omaha?
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:29 am
Adam: People with College degrees have an unemployment rate of 4.5%; that would leave the vast majority of blue collar folks making the most of the unemployed out there. Also, our addiction to free trade agreements strips the Feds from needed revenue & causes wage DEPRESSION for the manufacturing class. It makes sense for Repubs, cause they predominantly represent ownership class, it makes NO sense for Democrats. Except that the Democrats are choking on their own liberal, pollyanna BS hubris.
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
10:29 am
Robert Muller, the Elvis of Climate Science deniers, ADMITS he was bankrolled by the Koch Bros, and says It’s Real.
Only in con-world
where admission of fraud is a “playing cards”
where paying it forward is a “ponzi scheme”
where losing your job in a supplyside depression is “lazy”
where impeaching Clinton was patriotic, but SH against Cain is “racist”
only in con world
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:30 am
Granny: What are you talking about? I am curious. What does cell tower installation have to do with anything? lol
Not a Neil Boortz Redneck
October 31st, 2011
10:30 am
Glad to see Herman Cain exposed for the fraud he is.
Too bad – the GOP is stuck with Willard Romney now.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
10:30 am
Reid and then Democrats are ruining the country and unwilling to compromise
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:31 am
Again: How would Cain know about the allegations? How would he be involved in the solution? If the organization thought they were authentic, would they not have requested he step down? IF they were false, you pay off the accusers and let them go on their way. Did Cain not say that the organizations general counsel took care of the allegations?
Libertarian
October 31st, 2011
10:31 am
If you have ever owned a business you know that people can allege anything. They can sue for anything…true or not. And sometimes its cheaper and more prudent to give them a settlement to go away, rather than paying a lawyer to go to court and have a long, costly, legal battle.
Also, in America, you are still innocent until proven guilty.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:31 am
Adam
It seems Thulsa may need a job.
ragnar danneskjold
October 31st, 2011
10:31 am
Don’t care.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:31 am
Reid is grossly inept – when was the last time the Senate passed a federal budget?
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:32 am
Granny,
Speaking of employment I gotta get going. I haven’t been on here much at all lately because I’ve been working a lot, unlike many of the libruls on here. I think for Adam blogging on Jay’s blog is a 24/7 job. Must pay well. Anyway I will be sure to bank a good amount of coin this afternoon and this evening. Somebody gots to pay the taxes and send all of your folks your unemployment checks. Oh wait. Granny and her whole family have jobs and are doing very well. Which explains why she is on here every morning. Or does she work the night shift at McDonalds?
Ya’ll have fun. Doomy will hit yall with a drive by later today when I get a minute. Caio!
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:32 am
Paddy: So from what I can tell you are saying Free Trade Agreements are part of the problem. I agree. Are you also saying that Obama proposed and implemented a bunch of those, or even one, and that caused the recession and the decline of the blue collar worker, so that is why Obama is at fault?
Midori
October 31st, 2011
10:33 am
How’s that rape victim of W doing?
why? you gonna hit on her next?
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:33 am
THulsa
really you are pitiful.
Not a Neil Boortz Redneck
October 31st, 2011
10:34 am
Ayn Rand loved her Medicare for sure but she had principles. Even she hated Ronald Reagan and campaigned against him – calling RR an “enemy of freedom”. Rand was no conservative – although they ignorantly claim her as one.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:34 am
where was liberal angst when the serial sexual harasser, the pin head from Arkansas, was essentially caught red handed with Lewinsky? Seems to be cherry picking.
Thulsa Doom
October 31st, 2011
10:34 am
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:31 am
Adam
It seems Thulsa may need a job.
Says the blogger whose on here all morning every single morning about the poster who hasn’t been on here but for a handful of posts in the entire last week. Tooo funny. Waaaaayyy too funny.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
10:36 am
I see Adam has broken the news about the Koch crooks funding a climate skeptic only to have said skeptic become a convert and come out in support of what climate scientists have said all along. Man-made global warming is real. It’s happening. In short, poor choice for a deflection topic, Thulsa.
Aquagirl
October 31st, 2011
10:37 am
You joining keep with his fascination with my body?
No, I’m joining Midori in searching for that puke emoticon.
I think you’re just joking, but given some of your past statements I’m not entirely sure. Men who let their own self-fascination slip out are sincerely clueless that others (especially women) don’t share their view. Now that I do find fascinating, as long as it’s at a safe distance.
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
10:37 am
Is this Thus-a Maroon & GLL’s first foray into trolling,
or have they been active trolls since they were 16 ?
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:37 am
Housing & easy money is what has caused this recession. But long term weakness in OUR economy is directly due to free trade agreements. Obama recently signed 3 of them I believe. Obama also blew 600 billion in a stimulus that was so poor conceived it failed to generate NATIONWIDE jobs. It created jobs for those who are certified contractors for the federal government, but what % of businesses is that nationwide? How has obama dealth with high gas prices? anything? high food prices (ethanol stupidity)? Obama has not properly addressed the problems due to utter ineptitude. He owns this economy.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
10:38 am
global warming may be occurring. but, what is the specific cause? and any genuine impacts that we can also alter?
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:38 am
Thulsa: I think for Adam blogging on Jay’s blog is a 24/7 job
Who has an obsession?
Speaking of employment I gotta get going
Funny that it took Granny to remind you of your need to do your job.
You, and people like you, certainly aren’t going to get me to shut up and stop posting on here just because I happen to have a few free moments. I suggest you look very carefully over the past few pages and tell me just how many times I have posted compared to yourself. A rational person would take that and go “well, I guess I post more and gee maybe I should take my OWN job a little more seriously.”
I have two jobs, one of which is me running my own business. I take breaks. Good luck finding actual REAL fault with my choices at work or at home.
Jeez, seriously guys. You post on here all the time, yet you do not live in your mother’s basement or collect unemployment checks yourself, or get paid to blog here (hopefully), so why do you think anyone who has an opinion other than yourself fits this description? I’d really like to know.
godless heathen
October 31st, 2011
10:39 am
Muller never was a Climate Change / Global warming skeptic. He was concerned about the “Climategate” data so he did his own research, partially funded by the koch’s. MSM has decided the results of his study play better if he is characterized as former GW skeptic.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
10:39 am
Is it too early to start celebrating President O’s reelection? What if I just took a few sips of the bubbly rather than swigging the whole glass?
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
10:39 am
A couple of points:
1) Any police officer out there who doesn’t have a few “citizen complaints” is too timid and not doing their job agressively enough …………… or earning the money you taxpayers pay.
2) The same is true of managers ……….. if you don’t have a few complaints against you …….. then you’re not MANAGING ! People don’t like being told to work harder, perform different assignments, be to work on time, etc., etc. and LAZY employees (I have found from personal experience) are the first to trump up charges (sexual, racial, age or whatever other types of harrassment there are) to cover their poor work performance.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:39 am
“With all due respect that’s just your opinion and is not hard evidence. ”
Actually Doom, it’s not:
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/297/5585/1292.abstract
Little light reading when you’re bored.
Of course nature will find it’s way, no one is arguing that — it’s the effect it will eventually have on humans is what’s important to me — I like being top of the food chain.
But one only has to logically connect the dots to see that these effects (affects? I can never get those two right) are having effects on humans already — every ecological system is reliant upon another, and it is starting to take it’s toll.
I watched a documentary too not too long ago, and for the life of me I can’t remember what it was called or what channel, but it talked about how the planet really doesn’t care what we do to it, because it will always win out — it’s what we humans have to be aware of and do if we want to remain on it.
I just tried to google it, but it’s been a while back and I can’t remember the exact title, but the google searches I just did were “human + effect” and “human + era” and you’ll see some of the hits I got. It’s interesting stuff.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
10:40 am
Not a – too bad the D party is stuck with a loser
Not a Neil Boortz Redneck
October 31st, 2011
10:41 am
Paddy O – crude oil hit $147/bbl in 2008 and is $91/bbl now.
Active rigs in the USA have tripled since 2009 (Baker Hughes data). The US is the #3 producer of crude oil and is headed to #1 by the end of Obama’s second term (Goldman Sachs projection).
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:41 am
Thulsa
You don’t need a job?
But what about all those stats you posted????
Your successful employment (- what is it you said -) strains credulity.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:41 am
Oh and Doom, here’s another googly search I did:
“rate of ecological changes and adaptation” – not in quotes though…
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:41 am
Oh, and the google is so awesome wicked cool today….
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:43 am
So Scout, are you assuming these women were just the lazy employees?
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
10:43 am
“Don’t listen to the charlatans”
don’t say that! I love the charlatans!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhSA8FwdS2A
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
10:43 am
Will the Dems reclaim a majority in the house and supermajority in the senate? I sez they will. Wanna bet?
Matti w/cream and splenda
October 31st, 2011
10:43 am
Sexual harassment in the workplace? **Yaaaawwwwwwwwnn!**
I hope the good kindly Republicans here will not let this silliness stop them from voting for Mr. Cain! WHY WOULD YOU? I’ve been working in corporate America for two decades now. Two out of three men who hit on me at work (some more rudely and aggressively than others, but all inappropriately), are MARRIED RIGHT-WING CONSERVATIVES. Fully half of the guys who seek my attention for directly-stated SICK, indecent purposes outside the workplace are right-wing conservatives, and about half of those are married.
In the debate over which group has more “moral character” regarding such matters, I have to say to ALL of you: STFU. Nothing you say trumps what I know: There are good, decent men — and a WHOLE LOTTA CREEPS — on both sides of the political fence. Mr. Cain behaved this way because it’s the accepted norm, and we all know it, so give up your lame objections, already.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
10:43 am
I suspect Thulsa is worse off than he’ll admit.
I hope is family is ok.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
10:45 am
Bosch: AHAHAHA I love it! Google makes such awesome logo adaptations.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:47 am
Adam – yeah! I love it when Google does the video things. It makes me smile.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:49 am
THE PINK PIG is back!!! Childhood….remembering….now!!!
Jm
October 31st, 2011
10:49 am
Communists Unite 10:43. I’ll take that bet. $100 says they won’t get both back. You’re on. Jay, you going to make sure CU is good for it?
King Of All
October 31st, 2011
10:50 am
Some Food for Thought….Michael Jackson settled one case and fought the other in court. Do you believe Michael was guilty of child molestation?
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
10:51 am
jm,
Um, I think internet gambling is illegal.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
10:51 am
Actually, if Jay will verify CU is good for the dough and hold in escrow, I’d bet $1000.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
10:53 am
Bosch. This is a blog, not the Internet
It’s a gentleman’s bet. What say you CU? Where’s that loud mouth big talker gone?
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
10:58 am
Jm – yer on; i’ll even give – very good – 2:1 odds. remember this, though – we ‘mericans practice our own unique form of communism. accordingly, comrade, my profits will be capitalized whilst my losses will be socialized. may the best comrade win.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:02 am
Comunists Unite you’re crazy. Jay, you going to facilitate this and hold cash?
2-1 odds. $1000 wager that dems don’t gain a majority in the House AND a supermajority in the senate. You’ll need to get $2000 from CU here.
retired early
October 31st, 2011
11:03 am
All the proof one needs is verifying that “settlements” were paid and the 2 female employees left the Company. The company would never have paid for allegations that could not bear fruit in a court of law. This deduction comes to you courtesy of that well established source…it comes from…”common sense”.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:04 am
Oh and CU. I don’t play socialism. You’ll have to put up $2,000 fair and square
Or are you chicken?
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
11:05 am
Jm – i’m just glad you didn’t adjust bet amount upwards to reflect inevitable usd deflation. one more thing: i accept payment only in rubles.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
11:05 am
“So Scout, are you assuming these women were just the lazy employees?”
In all probability yes, or didn’t get the promtotion they thought they deserved, or the assignment they wanted or the parking space ……….. the list is endless.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
11:06 am
oops. meant “devaluation.”
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
11:07 am
I thought for sure it would be Mittster/Cain – the Con Fundamentalist Gold ticket
who will they get now, Rubio? – and be the “Hair Helmet” ticket
The Thin Guy
October 31st, 2011
11:07 am
Herman must be doing pretty well if the libs are fabricating lies about his love life. Next expect stories that Slick Willie and the Bootlegger’s Brat JFK never held hands or kissed on the first 35 dates. If this is all they’ve got President Cain has nothing but smooth sailing ahead.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
11:07 am
Ah Yes. It is indeed the one day of the year that is deemed acceptable for celebrating the thriller that is Vincent Price.
Normal
October 31st, 2011
11:10 am
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
10:43 am
My money is with you. I think the GOP is going to be amazed at how fast their political value is going to fall come November, 2012…
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:10 am
CU is chicken
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
11:10 am
Aynd Rand’s Medicare – I’m thinking Bristol Palin.
Pizzaman
October 31st, 2011
11:11 am
This ain’t no “Liberal” plot. It’s the excuse thr Republicans need not to nominate a black man.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
11:11 am
Jm – chicken? i took the bet; gave favorable odds; not backing out. what’s chicken about that? bet i could down a bottle of vodka quicker than you. and then another. and another.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:12 am
Normal, you want to finance Turntail comrade CU?
I don’t care who puts up the money. Hop on board.
Normal
October 31st, 2011
11:13 am
CU is chicken
Nope, Cu is copper…
Normal
October 31st, 2011
11:15 am
jm,
I bet you that if I lose, I’ll wear “I’m a Republican” sign on my car for a year. If you lose, you have to wear a “I love Obama” sign on your car…deal?
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:15 am
CU. Intrade says you have way less than a 10% chance of being correct
Chicken……. Typical for a commie
Let your mouth write checks you can’t cash
Paul
October 31st, 2011
11:16 am
Hi Midori!!!
“Doom + speedos?
where’s the puke emoticon?”
This is my standard Halloween pumpkin:
http://tinyurl.com/pf5d
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
11:16 am
one can only hope Scout doesn’t have daughters
if he does, I pity them.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
11:17 am
I like Normal’s wager. I wonder if Jm will take him up on it.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
11:18 am
Manly chest thumping on a thread about sexism. Downing vodka better than that guy? Calling someone chicken?
Do you guys get how awful that is?
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:18 am
Normal 11:13
true enough
11:15 I’ll take that bet too. Jay will have to prove via photos.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
11:18 am
Just when you think that scout has bottomed out, he proves that his shovel is still fully operational.
DBCOOPER
October 31st, 2011
11:19 am
4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS! 4 MORE YEARS!
Can America survive?
How stupid are we?
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
11:19 am
Jm – intrade woulda put the odds of one george w. bush completely and utterly wrecking the us politically, economically and militarilly at probably less than 1%. and yet it happened. i like my chances. NO PERESTROIKA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Normal
October 31st, 2011
11:21 am
jm,
Fair enough…you’re on.
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
11:21 am
Ok, since we are opening the door to all politician’s personal lives, I have always wanted to know is Hilliary Clinton a lesbian or not? Wonder if that is why Bill constantly wandered throughout his life? Only serious answers please?
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
11:23 am
Tom(Independent)
Why would you wonder about such things?
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
11:25 am
Bosch – Just curious, nothing more. It would explain Bill’s propensity to wander, doesn’t it?
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
11:27 am
Tom(Independent)
Sure, but so would alot of other things like his ego, etc. No offense, but there are only two people whose sexual stuff I ponder.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:27 am
CU aka Trotsky, whatever. Go to Popeye’s and make yourself dinner
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
11:27 am
Tom(Independent) – no, she isn’t, but like any good liberal lady, she did dabble in college (though only when she forgot to exhale) and found it, well, a little fishy,
Recovered Demoholic
October 31st, 2011
11:28 am
Who is Larry Sinclair?
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
11:28 am
“It would explain Bill’s propensity to wander, doesn’t it?”
Ah nope.
Bill Like Rudi like McCain Like Jack K like Ike like HW like Newt like all cheaters…
Cheaters cheat because they can’t control themselves.
(Men or Women)
Soothsayer
October 31st, 2011
11:29 am
Climate change is a bunch of junk. Right?
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
11:29 am
That Sanford fella wandered all over North Georgia in search of South America, Tom.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:30 am
Oh good. Beacon power, another green energy firm backed with a federal loan has filed bankruptcy
DawgDad
October 31st, 2011
11:31 am
They put this story (repeat, story) out there without providing a shred of proof. Shame on them. If this story is true, step up and prove it. Otherwise, as-is, it is an irresponsible political hit piece.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
11:32 am
Jm – are you paying? or is the government? you seem a little touchy this morning – herpaps you needs to puff the little liberal magic dragon. high blood pressure is bad for ya.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
11:32 am
“HW”
?????
Naughty, naughty!!
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
11:32 am
TaxPayer – But that was his TrueLove, right? Wonder if she has a twin-sister?
snoqualmiefalls
October 31st, 2011
11:34 am
According to reports today “both women eventually left their jobs aftr recieving large payouts from the Association and signing agreements that they would not talk about the incident”.
HMMMM
JKL2
October 31st, 2011
11:36 am
“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting an inexperienced man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama Presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their President. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America . Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President.” – from CZECH REPUBLIC OBSERVER
Mick
October 31st, 2011
11:36 am
jm
If you are going to use matthews to make a point, I’ll go with this guy-
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/gop-candidates-plans-on-economy-housing_n_1066949.html
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
11:36 am
Granny – Newt is 68 yrs old, silver hair, a little heavy. Don’t really think of him as a PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!! PS – He would probably bore you to death with his constant conversation about history! Just can not picture him as a ladies man.
moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
11:36 am
Uh oh.
The flying monkeys have been released on Cain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SESI19h4wDo
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
11:38 am
betty,
Those flying monkeys always freaked me out.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
11:38 am
Wonder if she has a twin-sister?
You think Sanford should take his ex along on a double date?
Jay
October 31st, 2011
11:41 am
Dawgdad and others, Cain just acknowledged on Fox that yes, he had been accused of sexual harassment. He also stated that the charges had been groundless.
However, his acknowledgement means that Politico reported the situation accurately.
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
11:41 am
“Bosch – Just curious, nothing more. It would explain Bill’s propensity to wander, doesn’t it”
No, it wouldn’t
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
11:43 am
I just can’t wait for this campaign season to get in full speed ahead. The Republicans have laid out their strategy of calling for the poor to pay more in order to win over the votes of their wealthiest supporters. This is gonna be a great campaign season.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:44 am
Mick
That guy offered not one specific example why the candidates were wrong and made blanket broad brush statements that especially don’t apply to Romney
In addition, almost every CEO that has spoken publicly disagrees with him on regulations
And they’re the ones that have to deal with Regs, not an economist
Finn McCool
October 31st, 2011
11:44 am
So Jay might as well be lynching Cain? You conservatives are disturbed people.
Here’s a news flash for you folks: No Democrat is afraid of Cain beating Obama. It will never happen – Cain will never be president.
Most Americans are smart enough to be able to do the math on the 9-9-9 plan and know it doesnt help them at all.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
11:46 am
Wonder if Jay will post an update maybe a video clip of the recent Fox interview with Herman Cain. Cain stated that there was an investigation that proved the allegations were baseless and if there was any settlement paid by the association he was unaware. Denied any sexual harassment at anytime.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
11:46 am
It will never happen – Cain will never be president.
Cain won’t win the primary — if he even lasts that long.
Paul
October 31st, 2011
11:47 am
Taxpayer
Big difference between Romney and Perry for primary voters.
Romney said he wasn’t concerned about rich getting tax cuts, said they were doing just fine and he was concerned with the struggling middle class.
Perry, on Chris Wallace’s show on Sunday, acknowledged in the example given that a family making over $400K would get a huge tax cut while middle class taxes would go up, but that didn’t bother him at all because job creators need the money to hire more people.
Guess which position will resonate with Republicans?
Jm
October 31st, 2011
11:47 am
Jay 11:41
I hope Cain continues to do well in the race
He has something meaningful and valuable to offer in the dialogue, at minimum
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
11:49 am
Finn – On one hand you have a Community Organizer(like the Occupy folks) and on the other you have a former CEO. Which to choose?? Duh!!!
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
11:50 am
“Just when you think that scout has bottomed out, he proves that his shovel is still fully operational.”
which is why I like the expression: he hit bottom and pulled out a pick-axe
oy.
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
11:50 am
“On one hand you have a Community Organizer(like the Occupy folks) and on the other you have a former CEO. Which to choose?? Duh!!!”
I don’t recall any of the R candidates being a community organizer, which one is it?
USinUK
October 31st, 2011
11:51 am
Bosch – I hear ya – the flying monkeys scared the crap out of me when I was a kid
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
11:52 am
If Granny accused me of sexual harrassment, would that be news-worthy?? What value do you place on an accusation(mispelled)?
Doggone/GA
October 31st, 2011
11:53 am
“If Granny accused me of sexual harrassment, would that be news-worthy??”
It would be if you paid her off and insisted she sign a non-disclosure agreement…and you were running for President
Finn McCool
October 31st, 2011
11:53 am
Hey Tom, Al (Chainsaw) Dunlap is a former CEO. You want him as President?
Dennis Kozlowski was the CEO of Tyco….you want maybe to elect him once he gets out of prison?
I see some folks are in awe of job titles. Tom, do you realize you can start your own company today and name yourelf CEO? You want to be President?
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
11:55 am
Guess which position will resonate with Republicans?
And yet! All of them on here have to always run off to work! They hardly sound like the job creators that the GOP, ex-Romney, is targeting.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
11:57 am
Unless Politico reported that there was an investigation, which proved the allegations baseless or if they issue a rebuttal to Cain’s assertion, they didn’t report accurately.
Paul
October 31st, 2011
11:57 am
TaxPayer
“And yet! All of them on here have to always run off to work! ”
When the questions get tough, the work calls -
RB from Gwinnett
October 31st, 2011
11:57 am
“Politico has a journalistic obligation to report them. ”
Funny how that “journalistic obligation” never seems to affect what you post here Jay.
Finn McCool
October 31st, 2011
12:02 pm
Funny how that “journalistic obligation” never seems to affect what you post here Jay.
RB is such a class act.
Peadawg
October 31st, 2011
12:02 pm
“Funny how that “journalistic obligation” never seems to affect what you post here Jay.” – That’s actually kind of funny. I don’t care who you are. It’s also funny how most people ignored Obama’s suspect character back in 2008.
Cain is not going to get anywhere near the White House. This new revelation just piles the stuff on.
Finn McCool
October 31st, 2011
12:04 pm
The closest Cain will ge to the White House is by delivering a pizza!
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
12:04 pm
hey, i just went to LegalZoom and I am now CEO &
Chauffer of Chuckles’ Clown Car. I can be president!
or at least I can drive the Republican nominee.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
12:05 pm
Cain also said that if payments were made, he was unaware of them. That may prove to be the direction in which this story goes, given that Cain was apparently CEO at the time. Payments were made that he, as CEO, was not aware of?
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
12:07 pm
So far Cain’s campaign has been remarkable.
Remarkably hysterical.
Or as some have noted, one high-profile blunder after another.
Let’s review…
He distrusts Muslims to the point of self-avowed bigotry.
He’s anti-pro choice/life/other.
He’s pro-anti prisoner swaps between Israel and the Palestinians.
He wants to build an electrified border fence that would kill illegal immigrants.
His $9.99 plan. Nuff said on that one.
Uzbeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan.
And now jungle fever/hush money problems.
The guy needs to stick to an election he can win, say the mayor of Trenton. Georgia…
Peadawg
October 31st, 2011
12:11 pm
Jay @ 12:05
LOL I know. Cam Newton got away w/ a bs story like that.
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
12:11 pm
Doggone – If you sign a non-disclosure agreement and then speak to the media, do you have to give the money back? No, I do not want to be President! Too much hasslement! But I would have liked to have had a beer or two with Bill C, during his hay-day. As a staunch conservative, I still liked and voted for Bill C. Guess I fell off the wagon for awhile?
Gator Joe
October 31st, 2011
12:12 pm
Jay:
The sexual harassment allegations against Mr. Cain are the least of his problems as a candidate. The allegations will be overlooked by the brain-washed Right when he plays “The Liberal Media-High Tech Lynching, Sympathy Card”. Much more difficult for him will be convincing independent voters, or anyone capable of thinking for themselves for that matter, he’s actually qualified to be president. The latter point is proving difficult for all of the Republican candidates, with the possible exception of Huntsman.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
12:13 pm
“Payments were made that he, as CEO, was not aware of?”
Cain also stated that there was an investigation, which proved the allegations baseless. Politico has an obligation to either rebut Cain’s assertion or admit they didn’t report all of the facts accurately. They either did not do so by design or they rushed a story that wasn’t fully and properly investigated.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
12:13 pm
If you sign a non-disclosure agreement and then speak to the media, do you have to give the money back?
Sometimes…ask Tiger Woods attorney about their settlements…..or Gloria Alred
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
12:14 pm
we tried to tell you cons that intentionally tanking a nation’s
economy, filibustering everything, calling out-of-work people “lazy”
was a bad strategy, but noooo, you wouldn’t listen
now it’s all coming apart at the seams of the hoveround seats,
isn’t it cons
RB from Gwinnett
October 31st, 2011
12:14 pm
“It would be if you paid her off and insisted she sign a non-disclosure agreement…and you were running for President”
You’ve obviously never dealt with any of these situations in the real world. It’s almost always less expensive to pay off the person than it is to pay attorney’s fees to fight it and the insurance companies and corporations will take the cheap route most of the time. Whether there is any merit to the case is not relevant.
And there is a growing segment of this society that knows that and is working the disability, discrimination, and workman’s comp systems like a fine fiddle.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
12:16 pm
jm
You failed to comprehend the strongest point, it’s not the regulations, it’s that people don’t have the money to buy, that’s the major problem…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
12:16 pm
Hmmmm…. wonder why Hermie had the AEI forbid reporters from asking about the sexual harrassment allegations at an “open forum.”?
DawgDad
October 31st, 2011
12:18 pm
Jay: You did not reprint the entire Politico article. It includes:
“On the details of Cain’s allegedly inappropriate behavior with the two women, POLITICO has a half-dozen sources shedding light on different aspects of the complaints.
The sources – including the recollections of close associates and other documentation – describe episodes that left the women upset and offended.”
I thus stand by my accusation this was an irresponsible, cheap political hit piece, unsubstantiated by any proof. They say they have sources (proof) but provide none. Unless they come forward with the proof (documents) or corrobaration the story is irresponsible, and sleazy.
I also point out YOU KNEW THIS and selectively edited it out prior to your response to me.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:18 pm
Recon: So if a reporter reports that allegations were made, and Herman says the allegations were baseless, that means that unless the reporter comes out and rebuts that particular assertion, they were reporting inaccurately?
Got it.
Finn McCool
October 31st, 2011
12:18 pm
Mick, good luck trying to explain to a conservative that demand drives jobs, not regulations, or lack thereof.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
12:18 pm
not neal: why don’t you tell us what oil was prior to the adoption of TARP? Funny you should mention Goldman – they are the key corporation MOST responsible for the rise in oil prices – it is certainly NOT market force (unless you count market manipulation by Goldman).
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
12:19 pm
You’ve obviously never dealt with any of these situations in the real world. It’s almost always less expensive to pay off the person than it is to pay attorney’s fees to fight it and the insurance companies and corporations will take the cheap route most of the time. Whether there is any merit to the case is not relevant.
Poppycock nonsense. And I have delt with these claims in real world situations.
Jefferson
October 31st, 2011
12:20 pm
That too, ZERO chances for the Cain main.
RB from Gwinnett
October 31st, 2011
12:20 pm
“The allegations will be overlooked by the brain-washed Right ”
Thats funny coming from somebody who voted for a community organizer who’s greatest accomplishment to date was voting “present” for 2 years in the senate.
What’s worse is his job performance so far is on par with his experience and you tools are still supporting him.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:20 pm
DawgDad: Is Jay OBLIGATED to post the entire article verbatim when he links to it so you can go read it yourself?
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
12:24 pm
keep – if the accusation had merit, would they not have requested that Cain step down? This is VERY similar to Anita Hill.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
12:25 pm
RB – it is also funny that the suddenly righteous left re-elected the serial womanizer & exploiter Bill Clinton.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:25 pm
RB: You continually post on here about how your VAST experience in business has caused you to believe these ridiculous notions that basically amount to everyone is out to get the businessmen of the world.
I think maybe you chose the wrong business, or at least the wrong aspect of it. If you’re personally handling all these claims and all the taxes then you’re not delegating very effectively.
Paddy O
October 31st, 2011
12:25 pm
Adam: How do you explain the lefts penchant for free trade agreements? ( I understand the republican preference).
Finn McCool
October 31st, 2011
12:26 pm
I have a sure-fire product where there is huge demand and I can make $10 on every piece I sell. If the government has to put in a regulation – whether it’s to protect people, protect property, protect water, air or what have you – that’s something I have to deal with. If that regulation means it’s going to cost me $3 taken out of my profits then I wil have to adjust to that.
Should I shut down? Ummm, no – there’s still $7 in profit to be made. Only a slack arse ceo would shut the doors without thinking through all the possibilities to regain that $3 – whether through a price increase, a discount to incentivize multiple purchases, etc.
To blame regulations for a business not working is imature. If profit is to be had, a good businessman will find that profit.
Back Seater
October 31st, 2011
12:26 pm
I don’t know for sure, it came from my third cousins next door neighbors ex girlfriends mother in law, but they said that Herman has a pimple on his arse……………wonder how Politico missed that………..you poor liberals that have to resort to this type of crap
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:27 pm
Paddy O: I’ll answer your free trade question if you speak to my points first.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
12:28 pm
If profit is to be had, a good businessman will find that profit.
A bad business man will threaten to “go Galt.”
Paulo977
October 31st, 2011
12:29 pm
WHAT ABOUT THE JOB’S BILL??????
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:29 pm
I think we’re seconds away from “You can tell who liberals fear by…”
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
12:29 pm
Adam,
As the late IBM CEO Tom Watson used to say “THINK”. If Cain lied when he stated that one, there was an investigation that proved the allegations baseless and two, that if there was a settlement of money he was unaware of it, then Politico should have either obtained that information or should be able to rebut is statement as inaccurate.
Clint
October 31st, 2011
12:30 pm
Herman’s campaign neither confirmed, nor denied payments were made. Whether payments were made or not is not the issue. A business looks at things from a cost analysis manner meaning, if it cost less to settle out of court for claims that can neither be confirmed nor denied by the defendant than they will pay out, if it would cost less to go to court, a business will take that route. In the cases of sexual harrassment complaints, most cases are merely “he said-she said” with no proof either way. Numerous false claims have been made over the years when a woman, or a man for that matter, thinks they can get a settlement from making a claim that cannot be proven either way. This bears all the hallmarks of this kind of claim.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
12:30 pm
Paddy, its possible that meritorious claims were made near the end of Cain’s tenure so rather than have further embarrassment they just waited out the term of office. I can’t tell you what those decisions were or what was considered. However, the lack of public termination does not mean that the matters did not take place or that they were unfounded. And no, this is not another Anita Hill unless you mean merely that any sexual harrassment claims against a black man is an “Anita Hill” or something like that.
A PIMP NAME CAIN
October 31st, 2011
12:30 pm
pimping ain t eazy but somebody gotta do it
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
12:30 pm
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
11:52 am
If Granny accused me of sexual harrassment, would that be news-worthy?? What value do you place on an accusation(mispelled)?
it would be the best piece of harass you ever had…..
Mick
October 31st, 2011
12:32 pm
rb
I don’t know, he got bin laden, whilst the previous guy just gave up. The previous president even used torture, still couldn’t bag him dead or alive. I’ll stick with the community organizer over rich spoiled legacy boy eight days a week…
lynnie gal
October 31st, 2011
12:32 pm
At least it’s not little boys that Cain’s harassing, like Mark Foley (R, FL) or tapping his foot for gay servicing in a bathroom like Larry, “wide stance” Craig, or taking drugs and buying male prostitutes like the preacher Ted Haggard. No, all Cain did was to sexually harass his own female employees, which is just fine with Family Values Republicans.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:32 pm
Recon: So basically, the fact that Politico reports that there were allegations and Cain confirms that but then says “well, they were baseless” means that Politico is now obligated to a knock down drag out fight where it’s all or nothing and if they do not discredit every single goalpost Cain moves then they have to “admit” their first story that allegations were made (and later confirmed by Cain) was false, in its entirety. Glad we cleared that up.
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
12:33 pm
TaxPayer@11:43 – Good post! Got me to thinking, maybe only citizens who actually pay federal taxes get to vote in federal elections? Oophs. no more Democrats in Washington!
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
12:33 pm
Payments made because Herman did harass or for expediency.
Either way, this is not a good thing.
A PIMP NAME CAIN
October 31st, 2011
12:35 pm
y’all know i recomend extra sauce!
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
12:36 pm
Granny – Be nice!!
A PIMP NAME CAIN
October 31st, 2011
12:36 pm
another holier than thou repub gets caught, i love it. WWJD?
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
12:36 pm
A PIMP NAME CAIN
Ok, this made me laugh. (I think that makes me a bad person.)
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:37 pm
Guys, this is hardly a desperate political hit piece designed by the liberals to discredit Cain because they can’t fight him on message. Herman Cain’s candidacy is doomed to failure BECAUSE of his message, and because of THAT there is no need for desperation. I would understand if there were any substance coming from Cain or his campaign, but there isn’t.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
12:37 pm
Oh and Mr Cain also says he does not know about the allegations
of Mark Block violating campaign funding laws.
Does Mr Cain know about anything?
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
12:38 pm
Payments made because Herman did harass or for expediency.
That’s what I’m thinking.
Does a leader do a cost/benefit analysis or stand up for what he/she believes is right?
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
12:38 pm
JamVet – lol; you win the post of the day award.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
12:38 pm
Tom(independent)
Always am!
jm
October 31st, 2011
12:39 pm
Republicans governing, and slowly making the wheels of government turn to help create jobs.
———-
House Republicans are honing their jobs message — crafting hard-to-oppose, small-bore bills, shipping them to the Senate and daring Democrats and the White House to take up the mantle of obstructionism.
The strategy paid off last week, with the White House signing on to a Republican bill eliminating a 3 percent tax withholding requirement for government contractors — a rare bill that appears likely to zoom to the president’s desk.
The quick White House acquiescence came as a bit of a surprise to House and Senate Democrats, some of whom fear the president’s $447 billion jobs package will be sliced and diced to the GOP’s liking with Democratic priorities left on the cutting-room floor.
But unlike many past efforts by both parties this year, the withholding bill appeared devised to become law, marrying a piece of President Barack Obama’s jobs package with a piece of his deficit reduction plan.
Roll Call
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
12:40 pm
lynneGal@12:32 – If a man raises his voice to a female, that is sexual harrassment! If a man is harassed(unless he is gay) by a woman, he just let’s it go but if a woman is yelled at by a man, she wants to complain. What a double standard!!
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:41 pm
Kamchak: Does a leader do a cost/benefit analysis or stand up for what he/she believes is right?
Ask Mitt
RB from Gwinnett
October 31st, 2011
12:42 pm
“VAST experience in business has caused you to believe these ridiculous notions that basically amount to everyone is out to get the businessmen of the world.”
It’s not everyone, Adam, it’s just lazy good for nothing people trying to make an easy buck because they can get away with it. I don’t suppose you have any clue why grocery stores have video camera’s in every inch of the store, do you? I’ll give you a hint…. it’s not to keep you from stuffing a bottle of Texas Pete in your purse.
BTW, as a small business owner, I do everything from emptying the trash to dealing with the attorney’s on legal matters. And so does every other small business owner. Get a clue, Adam.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
12:42 pm
jm
Oh, so if the repubs get something they want, that’s good but if the dems try to get infrastructure spending, no go. You truly are a hypocrite and prove that you are also an IINO….
A PIMP NAME CAIN
October 31st, 2011
12:42 pm
nein nein nein nein nein nein
ken
October 31st, 2011
12:43 pm
Believe the media ? Believe Herman ? I’ll go with Herman.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:43 pm
jm: So the strategy of Republicans daring Democrats to obstruct paid off by the Democrats NOT obstructing?
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
12:44 pm
Adam,
I don’t have the time nor the inclination to chase down your rabbit hole but what you either carelessly or purposely omit is that Cain stated that there was an investigation that proved the allegations baseless and that if there was payments made he was unaware of them. Politico has the obligation to research his statement and either confirm Cain’s accuracy or refute his assertion. If they can not or will not they’ve lost journalistic credibility.
Paul
October 31st, 2011
12:44 pm
“If Granny accused me of sexual harrassment, would that be news-worthy?? What value do you place on an accusation(mispelled)?
it would be the best piece of harass you ever had…..”
LOLOL Granny! First absolutely true thing I’ve read on this thread in many posts -
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
12:45 pm
Believe the media ? Believe Herman ? I’ll go with Herman.
Isn’t Herman in the talk-radio biz?
Isn’t talk-radio part of “the media”?
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:45 pm
RB: I know plenty of small business owners who do all the work, and plenty who delegate things like taxes and legal matters. If the business is small enough, you shouldn’t be getting droves of sexual harassment suits unless there’s some merit to them. So now you make me wonder….
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
12:46 pm
Paul
Aw shucks….
jm
October 31st, 2011
12:46 pm
AARP is the enemy of the American state. I think its time they were declared a terrorist organization.
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/judd-gregg/190627-gregg-stakes-too-high-for-panel-to-fall-short
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
12:47 pm
you poor liberals that have to resort to this type of crap
Birthers are liberals! I didn’t know that.
Charles
October 31st, 2011
12:47 pm
Liberal media please. Last week I saw Karl Rove on tv with a huge list checking off the reasons why Cain would NOT be the nominee. This smells of a Karl Rove tactic. I would not be at all shocked if he didn’t leak the initial story to Politico, who by the way, the President and CEO of Politico is a former Assistant to Ronald Reagan and they endorsed Bush.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:47 pm
Recon: So basically I’m right, you think Politico has an obligation to research and report on any and all claims made by Herman Cain in response to the article. I disagree. I think if Politico reports and Herman Cain confirms part of it and just plain doesn’t deny the rest, then Politico has no obligation except to stand by its article.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
12:48 pm
Jay:
Two points:
1) As I said before, if you don’t have a few of these in your work experience as a manager then you probably weren’t a good one. People who put in a six hour work day for eight hours pay don’t like to be told to work eight hours and they can be quite inventive when striking back.
2) As you also know, corporations (and especially the government) often pay out cash just to get rid of the case as it would cost more to litigate it. I have seen that many times when the agent involved wanted it to go to trial but the government caved. Something that needs to be corrected in our system.
I have been sued in federal court twice. Once for “breaking into someone’s home” ……. summarily dismissed and once for a “false arrest” ……….. the 11th Circuit ruled in my favor ………………..
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
12:48 pm
First absolutely true thing I’ve read on this thread in many posts
Once you go Granny, you never go, um… banny?
stands for decibels
October 31st, 2011
12:49 pm
Get outa mah haid, Pimp.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
12:49 pm
“I would understand if there were any substance coming from Cain or his campaign, but there isn’t.”
It is a fact that currently Cain leads the other candidates in the polls, so it’s not important what the voters think, it’s what Adam thinks.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
12:49 pm
Cain stated that there was an investigation that proved the allegations baseless
Well! If Cain said it, it just has to be true.
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
12:51 pm
People who put in a six hour work day for eight hours pay don’t like to be told to work eight hours and they can be quite inventive when striking back.
Who could refute the voice of experience himself.
slapshot
October 31st, 2011
12:52 pm
Clinton “survived” his scandals because the media and all those in the Democrat War Machine led by rajun’ cajun’ Carville came to his defense. They went after the women’s character, not the accusations. Compare that to Anita Hill and the pubic hair in the Coke situation with Conservative black man (and Federalist supporter) Clarence Thomas. Who’s side were they on? Anitas! Most Democrats in the Senate did not vote for approval to put him on SCOTUS and he barely got in with a 52-48 vote.
It’s a little early for an October surprise, silly liberals. There’s still another solid year to go. Obama was never vetted and continues to be protected by The Machine. His failed policies are blamed on Bush for not working (and not even bringing up Democrats running both chambers of Congress from the 2006 mid-terms to the 2010 mid-terms).
We’ve already seen the childish liberals claim that the only reason the GOP supports Cain is because he’s black so the GOP can say they aren’t racist (THAT in and of itself is actually racist). It’s going to be a fun election year. Democrats/liberals are up against the wall and they know it. Any non-white GOP member/supporter scares the hell out of them. First it was the Conservative women they frothed over, and now it’s the Conservative black man chapping their backsides. And they call themselves “progressives.” How pathetic.
Paul
October 31st, 2011
12:52 pm
Question for the Cain supporters:
Regarding 999
How does a self employed person with no employees compute income on which to pay tax?
Same question for the Perry 20% tax on a postcard people (assuming, of course, there are any Perry supporters on this blog….)
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:52 pm
Recon: It is a fact that currently Cain leads the other candidates in the polls, so it’s not important what the voters think, it’s what Adam thinks.
I understand that not being able to debate the merits of why Politico should be obligated to do something it’s not really obligated to do might make you a bit testy, but there’s no need to change the subject to something ELSE you can’t argue unless you make up a straw man.
I never said any such thing, just to be clear. I said there is no substance. Herman Cain leading or trailing in the primary polls does very little to prove me wrong.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
12:53 pm
Obama was never vetted…
Not intended to be a factual statement.
Jean
October 31st, 2011
12:54 pm
As I recall, Republicans were willing to spend millions of taxpayer dollars investigating allegations of sexual harrassment against Bill Clinton. For what reason is it inappropriate to examine the same charges against a black republican?
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
12:54 pm
A simple question that no liberal, including Jay has the spine to answer:
If news came out about Obama from a Conservative source, saying the same things that are being said about Cain with the same amount of non-proof, would liberals believe the story?
Simple question. How about it libs? Anyone want to prove me wrong?
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
12:54 pm
Thanks, pinko!
Herman’s finding out the hard way.
When you’re a mean, little, pious pr!ck like Nixon or Pete Rose or Jimmy Swaggart and you get caught with your fingers in the proverbial cookie/nookie jar, most of us are gonna enjoy the subsequent squirming…
Jm
October 31st, 2011
12:55 pm
Herman Cain is proof that everything Obama believes is wrong
Willy Shakespeare
October 31st, 2011
12:56 pm
Ahh ….
Yet another repug caught with is pants down …. and they want to lecture everyone else?
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
12:56 pm
The biggest reason managers get in trouble when they are hit up for some type of harrassment, etc. is that they were “too nice” and didn’t document poor work performance.
If you keep the right file (known as “book”) on problem employees (late, excessive sick leave, counseled re: unfinished work, poor work, long breaks, discourtesy to the public, etc., etc.) ……….. you got ‘em !
Done it many times.
slapshot
October 31st, 2011
12:56 pm
“Isn’t Herman in the talk-radio biz? Isn’t talk-radio part of “the media”?”
Herman WAS in the talk radio biz. And that is NOT the “media” in the sense of ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, every major print “news” paper like the New York Slimes, and the lot of them controlled by the liberal left with regards to what “news” they feel Americans are entitled to view. In fact, that’s one reason talk radio has skyrocketed in popularity over the last two decades – and more recently the PJ media: news is out there that the alleged main stream media won’t report (negative things about Democrats, for example).
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:56 pm
slapshot: Any non-white GOP member/supporter scares the hell out of them.
Called it!
Contrary to what you may think. I think it would be the most amazing presidential race ever if he won the nomination. But I seriously doubt he will. The primary voters nationwide aren’t looking for Herman Cain in the long run.
RB from Gwinnett
October 31st, 2011
12:57 pm
“If the business is small enough, you shouldn’t be getting droves of sexual harassment suits ”
I’ve never had a sexual harrassment suit filed against me Adam and never claimed I had. I have, however, had racial discrimination, discrimination for a disability, and a littany of unemployment claims filed without merit and I’ve won every one of them, at least one of them against the wishes of company to settle vs. spending the money to defend.
Maybe before you spout any more uneducated opinions, you should turn off The View and learn something about what goes on in the real world instead of making crap up cause you think you’re cute. Any business owner and anyone who’s managed people for any number of years can set you straight if you’re willing to learn anything.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
12:57 pm
Jean
They had definite proof that Clinton had done it. No proof at all that Cain has done it.
Can’t you see the difference.
No Black Republican will ever be allowed to achieve without a lynching from the Party of George Wallace. if you ain’t on that Democratic Plantation, you ain’t going nowhere.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
12:58 pm
GLL: If news came out about Obama from a Conservative source, saying the same things that are being said about Cain with the same amount of non-proof, would liberals believe the story?
I would believe that allegations were made, and nothing more. Just like I do with this story.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
12:58 pm
slapshot :
Good points ! Let’s take the liberal approach and have some private investigators see just what these “ladies” are up too.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
12:58 pm
“Obama was never vetted…”
How can you vet someone who hasn’t done anything? Really nothing to vet….
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
12:58 pm
As I said before, if you don’t have a few of these in your work experience as a manager then you probably weren’t a good one
What a bunch of poppycock….. of course, those non-disclosure agreements all require that the fact that there was an allegation be made public because that’s just to show you are a good manager……
Of course, this is from a guy who would claim that unless you have clubbed a few innocent people to near death, well you just are not a good police officers.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
1:00 pm
Adam,
I think I understand you’re willing to set the journalistic integrity bar lower for Politico because of the political direction they lean. I’ll bet if a similar story like this one broke with limited details on Obama your attitude would not be the same.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
1:00 pm
“Obama was never vetted and continues to be protected by The Machine.”
Certainly an exceedingly strong indictment of the failures of the Republican Party – it was their job was it not?
They didn’t vet the community organizer whatever makes you think they’ll vet Cain?
G’head rely on the incompetents – again.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:00 pm
RB: I’ve never had a sexual harrassment suit filed against me Adam and never claimed I had.
Then maybe you should go back and tell me what you meant by this:
You’ve obviously never dealt with any of these situations in the real world. It’s almost always less expensive to pay off the person than it is to pay attorney’s fees to fight it and the insurance companies and corporations will take the cheap route most of the time. Whether there is any merit to the case is not relevant.
We were all talking specifically about sexual harassment. Don’t pretend we weren’t.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
1:00 pm
decibles:
You had it wrong the other night.
It’s “OCCUT*RDS” with a “U” not an “A” !
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:00 pm
JamVet
So you have proven that all it takes for you to condemn a Black Republican is an accusation by a liberal. No proof needed by you.
You would have been the one tying the knot while they dragged the Black man to the trees along the river.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:00 pm
gll
Let’s see, colin powell, condi, although she was terrible at both of her cabinet appts. Still, they made it without all the b.s.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
1:01 pm
War of 1811:
Worried about those occupiers, aren’t you?
You rightly see them as a threat to what you hold dear.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:01 pm
jm
You mock yourself with your pithy commentary…
Crenshaw8
October 31st, 2011
1:02 pm
At best, sexual harrassment is vaguely defined.
Absent legal action, I’m inclined to believe the accusations didn’t meet the legal criteria.
Too many Americans get off on tabloid journalism.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
1:03 pm
Where’s Dan Rather when we need him ?
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
1:03 pm
Herman WAS in the talk radio biz. And that is NOT the “media” in the sense of ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN…
Talk-radio is part of “the media”, sport.
Moving the goalposts now, are we?
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
1:03 pm
I do love this bizarre and desperate attempt to hang onto that “liberal MSM” drivel as the sole reason that so much really bad news about these fake conservatives is out there.
The MSM is owned by, works for, reports to and is primarily responsible for protecting the tiny handful of their corporate owners.
They are pro-war, pro-corporation and if they really were liberal, like the fake conservatives constantly whine about, there would be programs on with great regulatory, exposing the massive amount of corporate crime and malfeasance.
But there ain’t. And you dufusii pretend to not even notice…
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:03 pm
A PIMP NAME CAIN
You need to take about a year and start reading. the Voting Rights Act of 1964 was drafted by Republicans. JFK wanted to water it down, but the Republicans refused. LBJ was a Southern Racist who was certain that the bill would be defeated so he put it out there where it was Filibustered by the democrats.
But thanks for proving that once again, democrats only know what they are told about history.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:03 pm
Recon: I’ll bet if a similar story like this one broke with limited details on Obama your attitude would not be the same.
I refer you here. Besides that, just what political direction do you think a conservative owned company has?
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
1:04 pm
We all know in America the black man is guilty until proven innocent…
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
1:04 pm
“War of 1811:
Worried about those occupiers, aren’t you?
You rightly see them as a threat to what you hold dear.”
Exactly ! Couldn’t have said it better myself.
P.S. I’d like to see the FBI file too ………………………..
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
1:05 pm
bu.bu.but Clinton! (all the sudden they have a memory past 2009)
bu.bu..but Global Warming! It snowed this weekend.
bu..bu..but Obama!
bu..bu..but the meeeeedia
nobody’s buyin cons – your 15 months of fame is almost up
and clean up those hoverounds & badly spelled signs on your way out
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
1:05 pm
“I never said any such thing, just to be clear. I said there is no substance. Herman Cain leading or trailing in the primary polls does very little to prove me wrong.”
Adam, it certainly proves you wrong to the extent that there’s obviously a great number of people who disagree with your opinion regarding his campaign substance.
A PIMP NAME CAIN
October 31st, 2011
1:05 pm
@GLL
SORRY but i’m never gonna vote for the party of JUNKIE LIMBAUGH! DUH, NOW i love your revisionist bs history but it wont work on me.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:06 pm
Mick 1:01
Can’t take a joke, eh?
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
1:06 pm
Take a look at John Edwards, here’s a man that was cheating on his dying cancer stricken wife and he still got the liberal vote. I guess that shows their complete lack of good judgement. I’m sure many liberals on this blog gave their vote to Edwards, looks like you guys missed that one by a mile…
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:06 pm
ggl
President johnson signed civil rights legilation into law knowing full well that those dems that you so despise is today your repub base. What say ye?
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:07 pm
JamVet: Exactly. Conservative media bias is much more prevalent than any other type of bias out there.
A PIMP NAME CAIN
October 31st, 2011
1:07 pm
cain needs to git offa the republican plantation
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:07 pm
Cain can dance. He’ll survive this.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:07 pm
Mick
Gen. Powell was repeatedly attacked for his support of the war in Iraq even though the Democrats approved the war. Condi was a woman that WAS attacked at every turn by the Democrats.
And look how this is being handled. Even Wiener was hiden as long as possible and once it couldn’t be denied, the women were attacked along with Andrew Britebart.
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
1:07 pm
“Adam, it certainly proves you wrong to the extent that there’s obviously a great number of people who disagree with your opinion regarding his campaign substance.”
Adam thinks Obama is doing a fantastic job, enough said…
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:07 pm
jm
Sure I can, still waiting for something remotely funny??
Waheema
October 31st, 2011
1:08 pm
For both Hart and Clinton ( not to mention Kennedy, Murtha, Frank et al) there were substantial issues raised that became so obvious that the press could not ignore them. In none of these cases, did the press run with a thinly sourced story that was mostly allegation.
The game for liberal hypocrites like you, Jay is to talk about the story and deny that you are trying to be part fo the smear. Of course that’s a lie and you are really an enthusiastic participant in the smear.
As for the double standard you will do your best to deny as long as you can. Of course there is a double standard! The press always treats democrats with kid gloves and looks the other way as long as is possible. Can you imagine a conservative politican who could have survived killing a girl in his car, “blacking out” and not reporting the accident? Of course not.
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
1:08 pm
“Conservative media bias is much more prevalent than any other type of bias out there.”
Really, besides Fox News, which media outlets are you talking about?
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:08 pm
RB: Adam, it certainly proves you wrong to the extent that there’s obviously a great number of people who disagree with your opinion regarding his campaign substance.
It doesn’t prove anything for me to disagree with a group of people or for them to disagree with me. I happen to think the entire group who thinks Cain’s campaign has any substance larger than a sliver is deluded. The fact that there are a large number of them just says to me they suffer from groupthink.
A PIMP NAME CAIN
October 31st, 2011
1:08 pm
mick 1:06
a fact repubs seem too completely miss. i wonder why?
Paulo977
October 31st, 2011
1:08 pm
Happy Halloween guys…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQd0ELH7SNI&feature=related
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
1:08 pm
Headline: “Stephen Tulloch celebrates sack on Tim Tebow by ‘Tebowing’ …”
“The newest fad surrounding Tim Tebow, “Tebowing,” is defined by the website fueling the craze this way: “to get down on a knee and start praying, even if everyone else around you is doing something completely different.”
After sacking Tebow in the first quarter of Sunday’s Denver-Detroit game, Lions linebacker Stephen Tulloch jumped on the popular meme by showing off his version of “Tebowing” ………. ”
Fad? Now just imagine the person flattened was a Muslim wide receiver and someone got down and began “bowing to the ground”.
killerj
October 31st, 2011
1:09 pm
Clinton made it through?,not in my mind,he,s as bad to me as the public school system handing out rubber,s to high school student,s,if we were in the 60,s or 70,s his ass would have been canned by the religious sect,my times have changed,the difference is he was caught red handed.(no pun intended)
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:09 pm
WOODSTOCK MIKE: Ask Pew Research
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:09 pm
gll
Breitbart? He is a mother fu@#ing a-hole to the tenth, puhleez..
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
1:09 pm
Take a look at John Edwards, here’s a man that was cheating on his dying cancer stricken wife and he still got the liberal vote.
John Edwards won the 2008 Dem primary?
I learn something new everyday.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:09 pm
Mick 1:06
I say Johnson was probably signing the bill while doing an intern
The guy had a legendary record with women
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
1:10 pm
I just actually saw someone write that conservative media bias more prevalent than liberal media bias. Wow, that guy doesn’t have a clue…
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:10 pm
A PIMP NAME CAIN
When people like you start to vote Republican, I’ll start taking a long hard look at the Independant Party.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 31st, 2011
1:10 pm
Sure Adam.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2011/10/10/politicos-top-stories-suggest-sites-liberal-tilt
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
1:11 pm
“John Edwards won the 2008 Dem primary?
I learn something new everyday.”
Ever heard of the Kerry/Edwards ticket?? You know, the one you voted for?
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:11 pm
Mick
See what i mean? What he said about Weiner was the absolute truth but you an’t help but attacking him.
Big Johnson (redundant)
October 31st, 2011
1:11 pm
Cain is small potatoes. He should see my shenanigans.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:12 pm
WOODSTOCK MIKE: Yeah, no clue at all. I mean I make sh*t up all day!
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
1:12 pm
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
1:10 pm
I just actually saw someone write that conservative media bias more prevalent than liberal media bias. Wow, that guy doesn’t have a clue…
actually that guy has more than a clue…he’s got data.
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
1:13 pm
“One man running for president has suffered the most unrelentingly negative treatment of all: Barack Obama. Though covered largely as president rather than a candidate, negative assessments of Obama have outweighed positive by a ratio of almost 4-to-1. The assessments of the president in the media were substantially more negative than positive in every one of the 23 weeks studied. In no week during these five months was more than 10% of the coverage about the President positive in tone.”
Yeah, that’s what happens when you do a poor job, what would you expect?
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:13 pm
Cain is the man
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
1:13 pm
Stalin reportedly was faithful throughout to his one and only wife. Seems like he’d be a good dude to lead the Regressive Party, then, no?
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:13 pm
gll
What about all his other garbage? He is a loser and a bottom feeder, go ahead and admire that piece of trash, you can find better heroes than that…
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
October 31st, 2011
1:14 pm
I knew this man had skeletons in his closet. It was just a matter of time before they all fell out. Hahahahahahahahaha! God has a way of exposing the devil.
Cain is a flim flam. Cain is a buffoon and an uncle tom. HE WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
1:14 pm
Jm – cain is definitely ‘a’ man; however, he is definitely not ‘the’ man. still, it’d be frikkin phenomenal were he to win the nomination.
RB from Gwinnett
October 31st, 2011
1:14 pm
Adam, I was just about to post something pointing out how poor your reading and comprehension skills are and then you post your 1:08 to me proving my point.
Seriously, dude, you aren’t very bright. I hate to break the news to you, but you’re only getting 30% of what people post if that much and you’re embarrasing yourself arguing against things people didn’t say.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:14 pm
Adam
Obama has gotten bad press because he has failed at everything he has tried. After a while, its sort of hard to find anything good to say about the clown.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:15 pm
Recon: I had hope for a second, seeing as a site called newsbusters would surely be fair and balanced, and then I saw this: “Exposing and combating liberal media bias.” And you link me to a BLOG post on the site. Well done!
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:17 pm
GLL: So you admit there is less liberal media bias after all. Thanks.
Midori
October 31st, 2011
1:17 pm
Paul
thanks!!!
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:18 pm
**Obama has gotten bad press because he has failed at everything he has tried.**
Oh, I don’t know but getting bin laden and saving the US auto industry are considered successess by many besides your crew of hate obama no matter what…
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:18 pm
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
“Cain is a buffoon and an uncle tom.”
Thanks for saying what all the liberals here have wanted to say. Its just a shame that he isn’t living on that big old “we’ll take care of you Black People because as all democrats know, you can’t take care of yourself” plantation
Paul
October 31st, 2011
1:19 pm
Twenty minutes and not one Cain or Perry supporter can tell me how a self employed person with no employees computes their tax under those ’simple, fit on a postcard’ ‘reform plans.’
And Cain’s at the top of Republican polls ’cause Republicans just know he has the answers….. sheesh…..
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:19 pm
RB: Think what you want about me personally, and attack me all you want personally. It makes no difference to me.
I thought we were getting somewhere actually talking about the issues rather than each other.
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
1:19 pm
……………….. and we wonder why we have such a dearth of people even willing to consider running for president.
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
October 31st, 2011
1:19 pm
Were these WHITE WOMEN???????????????
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
1:19 pm
Ever heard of the Kerry/Edwards ticket??
You mean the race where Edwards was running for vice-president?
The race that was three years before the disclosure of his extra-marital affair?
Is that the ticket you’re trying to compare this with?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
1:20 pm
After a while, its sort of hard to find anything good to say about the clown
Because GLL was all about giving him a chance from the beginning and then he was disappointed….. as confirmed by the false claim that “he has failed at everything he has tried.”
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:20 pm
Mick
Killing bin Laden was good. Supporting the ousting of every one of our allies in the middle east and replacing them with Christian killing Islamic radicals wasn’t so good.
And yes, Canada and Mexico are now making some of the best cars America has ever produced.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
1:21 pm
You neo-cons and revisionist rubes in the (Almost) All White Party get more desperate and absurd by the week.
The bumbling, stumbling “boner a week” Herman is mere spectacle in the Alan Keyes mode.
But on steroids…
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
1:21 pm
Creepy sexual behavior is the only thing so far that I’ve heard about Herman Cain that makes him seem like a typical/legitimate politician after all.
Now all he needs is a bikini shot with the AK47, then he’s gold, i tell ya
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:22 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
What about that accusation that I threatened legal action, liar?
Just going to let it join the long list of your other lies in your creepy obsession of me?
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
October 31st, 2011
1:23 pm
All of you Cain supporters HIDE YOUR WOMEN! You have a predator among you. Now we know what is behind that sneaky grin on Cain’s face.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:23 pm
Kamchak
Yea. Edwards the ambulance chaser. You guys sure have high standards for your leaders. LOL!!
bookman parrot
October 31st, 2011
1:23 pm
good job jay! your propaganda deflects from the awful job Obama is doing. i bet when Clinton was at it, you didn’t squawk a bit.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:24 pm
gll
Disingenuious about the middle east – I think the people over there have their own right of determination don’t you? Let’s not even mention the iraq debacle that basically handed that country over to iran from the get go. As for the car industry, what we have left is better than zero..
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:24 pm
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
Keep posting. You are saying more about the racism and bigotry of Democrats than I ever could.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:24 pm
GLL: Just going to let it join the long list of your other lies in your creepy obsession of me?
This kind of statement belongs on a picture reserved for facebook and blogs where the image is of the statement, surrounded by a black border and with the large word “NARCISSISM” underneath, with further caption that reads “Neo-cons WISH you thought of them as highly as they think of themselves.”
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
1:25 pm
GLL
Take a deep breath….you’re getting overly excited again.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:26 pm
Mick
So its OK to keep women from attending school and killing anyone that doesn’t have the same religion.
You do know that Hitler was elected, don’t you?
mm
October 31st, 2011
1:26 pm
At first I thought the story was started by the GOP to try to derail his campaign. Now its’ reported that NBC has confirmed one accuser reached a cash settlement.
Was she paid to keep her mouth shut, or her mouth open? LOL
Guy Incognito
October 31st, 2011
1:26 pm
A picture of Obama, “surrounded by a black border and with the large word “NARCISSISM” underneath”
Yes, perfect
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:26 pm
Granny Godzilla
Not excited. Disgusted. The liberals bigotry has rarely been this bad.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
1:27 pm
Melt-down in progress.
“Hysterics/hysterical” card in 3…2…1….
Armed Liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:29 pm
This is all just too funny.
Thanks for the lunch laugh Cainiacs!
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
1:30 pm
And the award for the Best B*llsh*t performance by a Bookman blogger goes to…
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
1:31 pm
You do know that Hitler was elected, don’t you?
Godwin’s Law, proven yet again
Midori
October 31st, 2011
1:31 pm
actually this Herman Cain story sounds like a Karl Rove production.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
1:33 pm
Good Little LIberal
Now now, son, we can tell you’re getting riled up.
It your regular routine, your MO if you will.
Armed Liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:33 pm
Braves trade Derek Lowe to Indians.
Cleveland, Armpit of America. HA!
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:34 pm
Granny Godzilla
Considering your past, please forgive me for not putting too much stock in your perceptions. After all, you DID for for Hope and Change. And you’ve never even apologized.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:34 pm
gll
I think you are going off the rails a bit, try to get back on track…
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:35 pm
A PIMP NAMED CAIN
Thanks for everything you are doing. Never stop.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:35 pm
Maybe the postal service should just be shut down
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
1:36 pm
Since we are now vetting all the Repub candidates, when is it going to be Barrack Hussein Obama’s turn? Let’s be fair about it!!
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:37 pm
jm
Maybe you should just be shut down
Tom(Independent)
October 31st, 2011
1:37 pm
Armed Liberal – We had to give Cleveland 10 million to take him!!
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:38 pm
Mick
Are you reading the blog?
You have two regular liberal posters here that don’t have the balls to be a racist using their regular names so they hide behind A PIMP NAMED CAIN and Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!.
Its the standard thing that spineless little twits do. And there are so many here.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
1:38 pm
In honor of Herman getting frisky.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgynbFoA9to
A PIMP NAMED CAIN
October 31st, 2011
1:38 pm
@tom 1:36
he has been vetted and y’all couldnt find anything. keep trying
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
1:39 pm
So is it the 9-69 plan now?
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:40 pm
gll
Dude, as if, there are plenty of folks here that do that, so? I tend to stick with my boring one name tag, no hidin it, eric’s the best…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
1:40 pm
standard thing that spineless little twits do
Of course, no proof that it is not a conservative poster or a troll who is making this blog his foray into politics.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:41 pm
Kamchak
Why is it that liberals are so afraid of discussing anything about Hitler or the NAZI party? They have even sited some dolt named Godwin that they think that they can throw out there and it will stop the discussion.
Sounds like they are afraid that some very relevant parallels will be drawn.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
1:41 pm
Good Little Liberal
Apologize? Ah, nope.
But I’ll not wait for the thank you for President Obama and we liberals
for saving y’alls backside from a depression.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
1:41 pm
he has been vetted and y’all couldnt find anything.
Well, there was that whole birth certificate thingie.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:41 pm
Foxconn is starting a Chinese revolution
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
1:41 pm
Rag on Cleveland if you want, but you rookies are living in the past.
The Texas Rangers are the new Tribe…
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
1:42 pm
Would that be his …. first foray?
How funny.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:43 pm
Granny 1:41 don’t hold yer breath
If he loses, you might pass out
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
1:43 pm
Again, there is one paramount parallel.
Jews don’t Jews vote for nasty little neo-cons…
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
1:43 pm
Here’s one for freeeee, PIMP –
That’s what you get when you offer the customer extra sausage
A PIMP NAMED CAIN
October 31st, 2011
1:43 pm
@kamchak
yeah he had a birth certificate, duh
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:44 pm
PIMP you’re an embarrassment to humankind and….
Nevermind. Head shaking.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:44 pm
gll
See, according to all you cons, obama is a failure, the stimulus was a failure, is a very myopic view. In reality, obama has done OK with what he inherited and the stimulus saved many more people from entering the poor house but in your world the previous guy was a success? Yeah right..
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
October 31st, 2011
1:45 pm
@Good little liberal October 31st, 2011 1:24 pm Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us! YOU SAY – “Keep posting. You are saying more about the racism and bigotry of Democrats than I ever could.”
I SAY – When you don’t have something of substance to say, you BERATE the people that do have something of substance to say.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
1:45 pm
Jm
Would you mind holding yours?
A PIMP NAMED CAIN
October 31st, 2011
1:47 pm
@mick
to repubs 9/11 showed how BUSHY BOY kept america safe. theyre judgement as u can see aint very good. lol
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
1:47 pm
yeah he had a birth certificate, duh
Yep, and the long form too.
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
October 31st, 2011
1:48 pm
Another one bites the DUST…GOP.>>>>>>>>LOSERS
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
1:48 pm
I demand that Herman produce all of the birth certificates of ALL of his children.
(And none of that short form stuff either!)
LOL…
Jay
October 31st, 2011
1:48 pm
“Pimp” is now banned.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:48 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
Funny how you just popped up like that. It’s almost like you’ve been here all along, maybe even being someone else.
JKL2
October 31st, 2011
1:48 pm
taxpayer-
I just can’t wait for this campaign season to get in full speed ahead. The Demwits have laid out their strategy of calling for more class envy in order to buy the votes of their supporters. Haven’t helped the poor since WW II, but why change anything now. They “hope and change” we’ll do something while laughing all the way to the bank. This is gonna be a great campaign season.
PS: It’s Bush’s fault. ha ha ha ha ha…….
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:50 pm
Jays blog content partners (pimp) continue to go steadily downhill and degrade the level of discourse
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:51 pm
Mick
The numbers say that Bush was a success.
And yes, it takes years to recover from what the Democratic Congress did to our economy, but that is years of recovery, not years of stagnant growth.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
1:51 pm
It’s even funnier that if I were “Pimp” and banned, that I am still posting as me….. so much for the accusations. Now Sherluck GLL, I guess if you figure out who else was banned when Pimp was banned you’ll have your indirect evidence….. go for it
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
1:51 pm
Woodstock Mike: ““Conservative media bias is much more prevalent than any other type of bias out there. / Really, besides Fox News, which media outlets are you talking about?”
Ohh, NPR, CNN, CNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, even MSNBC at times, what else do you want?
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:51 pm
GLL: Wow. It takes balls to be racist? Bringing up Nazis for no reason? You must not have heard of Quark’s corollary to Godwin’s Law (but after a Google search, will undoubtedly claim you knew all along!)
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:51 pm
Jay 1:48 thx
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
1:53 pm
Red card
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:53 pm
Granny 1:45
. Um no
But my cell battery will shortly do you a favor…
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:55 pm
Adam
None of that maters. The NAZIs took over one of the most advanced and educated countries the world has ever known and turned them into people who killed millions because of their race,
So why do you think that liberals are so desperate to avoid talking about them?
The point I was making to you is that you said that people in the middle east should have the right to put who they want in office. I said that Hitler was elected, proving that democracy isn’t always the best option.
Mick
October 31st, 2011
1:56 pm
gll
Yout timeline is slightly off, all the real estate bubble occurred in 05, 06, and 07. Dem. congress didn’t take over until jan 07, please reconcile your fiction with reality, thanks…
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
1:56 pm
Just wait til the Democratic operatives start mining the innumerable idiotic things Herman said while sucking up to his radio lord and master, Neal the Brave.
I suspect that thing’s are only gonna get worse for the (other) unwitting comedian from Georgia.
Speaking of head scratching statements, Bush was a success???
Outside of the insane asylum known as the RNC, I doubt many sentient beings would agree…
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:57 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
But in that big Law Firm that you own, there has to be lots of computers and lots of servers. Right?
Armed Liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:58 pm
Adam
…Quark’s corollary to Godwin’s Law…
I thought he was the Bartender on Deep Space 9??
Jm
October 31st, 2011
1:58 pm
GLL democracy isn’t perfect by a long shot
But it is better than the alternatives
Adam
October 31st, 2011
1:58 pm
GLL: Germany had a right to elect Hitler if they wanted, and the rest of the world had a right to respond when he started steamrolling over other countries. Unfortunately that isn’t EXACTLY what happened. The basic idea that someone can lie and dupe a bunch of people until he or she has consolidated enough power to take over everything and everyone else should not ever become a lost lesson of history.
Paulo977
October 31st, 2011
1:58 pm
WOODSTOCK
MIKE
Just to update you!!!!!!
http://obamaachievements.org/
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
1:59 pm
LICENSE TO LIE !
Headline: “On FOIA, Obama wants a license to lie”
.
“It’s not often that the liberal American Civil Liberties Union and conservative Judicial Watch agree on anything, but the Obama administration’s lack of transparency has brought the two together. Obama’s Justice Department has proposed a regulatory change that would weaken the Freedom of Information Act. Under the new rules, the government could falsely respond to those who file FOIA requests that a document does not exist if it pertains to an ongoing criminal investigation, concerns a terrorist organization, or a counterintelligence operation involving a foreign nation.”
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
2:00 pm
Yout timeline is slightly off, all the real estate bubble occurred in 05, 06, and 07.
But…but…but….Fannie, Freddie, CRA, Barney Frank, Jimmy Carter….
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
2:01 pm
Mick
Jan. 2006 Unemployment: 4.6%
Jan. 2007 Unemployment 4.7%
Jan. 2008 Unemployment 5%
Jan. 2009 Unemployment 7.8%
Jan. 2010 Unemployment 9.7%
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
Nothing says bad leadership like a worsening unemployment rate,
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
2:02 pm
Sherluck GLL, well as a proposition that perhaps Jay’s IT people can’t catch all IP addresses or other information and that someone could be posting from 2-3 computers, I guess it is possible that you are doing that. Have no idea. So basically you are claiming you have no evidence but are creating lies to blame others based on whatever you want to make up?
Yeah that is consistent for your posts… you seem obsessed with lying when you have no facts or evidence.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
2:02 pm
GLL: Nothing says bad leadership like a worsening unemployment rate,
Thank you for providing Bush’s numbers.
Why
October 31st, 2011
2:04 pm
So many seem to feel that President Obama has not been vetted, or that he has gotten a free pass. Makes me wonder – why are you berating a liberal slanting columnist on a daily basis? Do it yourself people.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
2:04 pm
Adam
- -The basic idea that someone can lie and dupe a bunch of people until he or she has consolidated enough power to take over everything and everyone else should not ever become a lost lesson of history.- -
My point exactly. So again, why are liberals, who have no problem with Obama attacking neighborhoods in countries where we are not at war, who have no problem with his using executive privilege like a college kid with his Daddy’s credit card, would not want to talk about Germany and what happened to them in the 1930s?
Grasshopper
October 31st, 2011
2:05 pm
Wipe the drool off your mouth Jay.
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
2:06 pm
Adam
Bush’s numbers were 4.6%, 4.7% and 5%
Glenn
October 31st, 2011
2:06 pm
Really surprised to hear the rightwing sheep talking about a liberal conspiracy . The benefactors of this story are the Republican candidates still in the running .
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
2:06 pm
Nothing says bad leadership like a worsening unemployment rate
And just check out that worsening rate starting in mid 2008 and almost straight lining up.
Just who was leadering in 2008 again?
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
2:08 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
My computer is in another state I’m pretty sure that he could figure out if different posts were coming from the same server in a different state.
But while you are denying things, how about that lie that you told about me wanting to bring a lawsuit?
Adam
October 31st, 2011
2:09 pm
GLL: Bush’s numbers were 4.6%, 4.7% and 5%
And 7.8% in 2009 before Obama was in office. All in all, Nothing says bad leadership like a worsening unemployment rate
That Black guy
October 31st, 2011
2:09 pm
How much validity do you give this accuation?
“New Book Claims Obama White House Is a ‘Hostile Workplace’ for Women”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/new-book-claims-obama-white-house-is-a-hostile-workplace-for-women/
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
2:09 pm
Hummmmm …………………………
Headline: ” More signs Israel preparing to launch attack”
“Leaves canceled, helicopter traffic surging ………. “
HDB
October 31st, 2011
2:10 pm
GLL: If news came out about Obama from a Conservative source, saying the same things that are being said about Cain with the same amount of non-proof, would liberals believe the story?
Well…..here’s one reporting the leak…
Herman Cain Sexual Harassment Allegations: Mike Huckabee Accuses GOP Campaigns Of Leaking Story
WASHINGTON — Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee said he could “almost guarantee” that the recent Politico story about sexual harassment allegations against Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain came from information leaked by another GOP campaign.
The Politico report revealed that while Cain was head of the National Restaurant Association in the 1990s, “at least two female employees complained to colleagues and senior association officials about inappropriate behavior by Cain, ultimately leaving their jobs at the trade group.”
When asked on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Monday morning if it was likely the scoop was provided by another Republican campaign, Huckabee agreed with the suspicion and questioned the legitimacy of the Politico report, saying, “Quite frankly, knowing some of the reporters involved — they’re not that good.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/31/huckabee-could-almost-gua_n_1067168.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009#
1811/0311
October 31st, 2011
2:10 pm
That Black guy:
Now, now …………… that’s been out for weeks.
You didn’t excpect Jay do ever do a thread on that one did you ??
Mick
October 31st, 2011
2:11 pm
gll
No credibility when you play that game. If I have a new car and drive it for 7 years then drive off the road and flip over three times, then hand it over to you, what have you got left?
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 31st, 2011
2:12 pm
Well, when I heard about this down at the warehouse this a.m. the boys said it was some kind of sex complaint. I feel so releived now that I know Cain ain’t gay. Us Republicans can put up with some guy feeling up women or having two or three women on the side, but the gay got to go. It’s against the Bible, and besides, you could catch it.
Have a good p.m. everybody.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
2:13 pm
Anybody on the planet who is STILL trying to defend the utterly disgraced Bush administration as something other than a complete disaster, and arguably the very worst administration in modern history – if not ever – is so far off the charts, they probably contend that the first 73 seconds of the STS-51-L flight was a huge success…
Lily White Conservative
October 31st, 2011
2:13 pm
The Perry campaign is at work. They are good at the smear.
Jm
October 31st, 2011
2:13 pm
Mick 2:11 recycling material and a death certificate.
That Black guy
October 31st, 2011
2:15 pm
“Isn’t Herman in the talk-radio biz?”
No
Mick
October 31st, 2011
2:17 pm
jm
Yes, correct…what the previous guy left was a totalled economy on life support. Obama has done a hell of a job to at least get the economy out of its coma and stabilized, much more rehab is needed…
HDB
October 31st, 2011
2:17 pm
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
12:57 pm
Let me fix this for you:
No Black Republican will ever be allowed to achieve without a lynching from the Party of Jesse Helms and Trent Lott! Look at what they did to Richard Steele!! Even Colin Powell got BOOED by Republicans at the Convention!!
Jm
October 31st, 2011
2:17 pm
Obama made the right decision on Iraq
He did a poor job of positioning us so that our troops could stay longer
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
2:18 pm
GLL, I’m still waiting on your 41+16 math explanation that is not 57….other than its your foray into math….
BILL
October 31st, 2011
2:18 pm
TommyMaddox: Don’t think the Paula Jones and Jennifer Flowers allegations were events that occurred while Clinton was running for President or while he was President. And, that wild commie organization, the New York Times, was a leader in investigating the matter.
Jay’s column was very fair to Cain. It was largely about how the Cain campaign deals with the allegations. He didn’t convict Cain of anything. The Politico story is obviously true that 2 employees were settled with over sexual allegations. If Obama had ever settled with anyone over such allegations, even if 30 years ago, the right-wing media would have a field day, and all of you right wing hypocrites would be foaming at the mouth over the allegations.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
2:18 pm
pile on bookman and all you libs……these leftist media tricks are exposed to larger and larger swaths of the electorate by people like me and will continue to backfire unlike 15, 10, even 5 years ago…….false charge, was exonerated from any wrongdoing, now all you libs on to the next opportunity to portray a republican candidate as a some type of ‘ism’ or ‘ist’……good luck, nothing with re-direct the publics’ eyes off of the complete policy failures of harry reid, nancy pelosi and ultimately barrack hussein obama….mmm, mmmm, mmmmmmm!
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
2:21 pm
So now, Herman’s getting the “McCain’s black baby” treatment?
Or maybe it was just a disgruntled SwiftBoater.
What a stitch…
Adam
October 31st, 2011
2:21 pm
See, Libertarians? The free market DOES fix everything. Hands off the free market!
Jm
October 31st, 2011
2:21 pm
Mick 2:17
Oooo. You were speaking metaphorically. Well. I wouldn’t blame it all on Bush. This has been building for a loooooong time.
Sallie
October 31st, 2011
2:21 pm
Bookman and his buddies in the press did their best to hide Clintons serial affairs but cant’ wait to talk about something that in the words of the reporter who filed the story “may or may not have happened”.
Interesting that there is zero interest in the liberal press about where the story came from. That might be the real story.
Not that you will EVER learn anything from Jay Bookman that you haven’t already read on HUFFPO.
HDB
October 31st, 2011
2:21 pm
Good little liberal
October 31st, 2011
1:03 pm
“You need to take about a year and start reading. the Voting Rights Act of 1964 was drafted by Republicans. JFK wanted to water it down, but the Republicans refused. LBJ was a Southern Racist who was certain that the bill would be defeated so he put it out there where it was Filibustered by the democrats.”
Lest YOU forget…..when LBJ SIGNED the Civil Rights Act of 1964, he said: “Democrats have lost the South for a generation!” What’s happened…the Southern Democrats with the racist paradigm went to the GOP!! Better re-examine what really happened!!
Mick
October 31st, 2011
2:22 pm
Kim kardasian packing it in after 72 days, that’s not a marriage, that’s more like the republican candidate flavor of the month…
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
2:22 pm
was exonerated from any wrongdoing
A settlement with a payment to the accuser is an exoneration?
I don’t think that exoneration means what you think it means, Billybob.
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
October 31st, 2011
2:22 pm
@Mid Ga Retiree October 31st, 2011 8:12 am YOU SAY – My biggest concern about this story is the timing.
Does it matter when the story broke? Or does it matter if the story is TRUE?
You people are a bunch of hypocrites. One minute you are spewing christanity and the next minute you are spewing hypocricy.
YOU CAN’T SERVE TWO MASTERS. YOU EITHER LOVE THE ONE OR HATE THE OTHER.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
2:23 pm
bill,
you mean like reverend wright and obama on video admitting he wants universal healthcare and that it would take 10-15 years, and that he gravitated to the communists and marxist in college while sealing off his college records and an insight into his thoughts and beliefs or maybe starting his political career in bill ayers (you know, the unapologetic domestic terrorist’s) living room that the liberal media completely ignored and gave him a pass……you mean like those things
Impressive
October 31st, 2011
2:23 pm
Jay, you were in on hiding Clinton’s affairs? I never knew you had such juice.
Paul
October 31st, 2011
2:23 pm
Scout
“LICENSE TO LIE !
Headline: “On FOIA, Obama wants a license to lie””
You gotta expand your reading list.
Even Fox reported the Obama Administration was one in a succession of administrations relying on a policy first promulgated by Reagan’s Attorney General, Edwin Meese.
Yet now, under Obama, it’s news -
Scooter
October 31st, 2011
2:24 pm
The Obama reportedly sat in the pews of Reverend Wright’s church for 20 years and never heard anti-Americanism, or anti-semetism. I will pay as much attention to the Cain story as “the media” paid to The Obama’s choice of Pastors.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
2:25 pm
kutgf,
was he found guilty of anything? easy question…..
Paul
October 31st, 2011
2:26 pm
Sallie
“Bookman and his buddies in the press did their best to hide Clintons serial affairs but cant’ wait to talk about something …”
Sallie, if you’re new here, you assume quite a bit. If you’re not new here, well….
Jay’s on record as saying Pres Clinton should have resigned over the Lewinsky affair.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
2:26 pm
Billybob: I assume that if Obama admitted such a thing on video, you actually HAVE said video to show us, right?
Oh, and btw, there is nothing wrong with wanting some social programs. I grow tired of people thinking that means some nefarious intent. Yes, the nefarious intent is to stop the corporate masters from controlling everything.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
2:27 pm
The MSM wouldn’t touch the Edwards story for weeks after the Enquirer outed Edwards and his gaff was a little more significant that sexual harassment. Hell, Kennedy was screwing Marilyn Monroe in the WH swimming pool and the press was mum. Probably how he got a bad back. Cain’s aide was SMOKING!!!!!…….. and the media can’t wait for their politically correct rant. One day before long, this country is going to implode on itself and the result will not be pretty. People are pissed…. really pissed about the direction this country is headed.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
2:27 pm
Don’t go so apoplectic, Cainiacs.
Watching a slime merchant get slimed, is just good clean American fun.
Especially when the Republican circular firing squad starts up in earnest…
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
2:28 pm
paul,
was bookman saying it then or after the fact……there’s a big difference….please enlighten us…..
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
2:29 pm
“Bookman and his buddies in the press did their best to hide Clintons serial affairs but cant’ wait to talk about something …”
Wow, I missed this nugget —
Yeah, the media did EVERYTHING like talk about it non-stop for like years and years!!
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
2:29 pm
Scooter: “The Obama reportedly sat in the pews of Reverend Wright’s church for 20 years and never heard anti-Americanism, or anti-semetism”
What did Rev. Wright say that was even the slightest bit exaggerated or untrue? I’d like to know.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
2:31 pm
At the time, Billybob.
In a personal column and also in an AJC editorial.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
2:31 pm
Conservatives:
I HATE THE MEDIA (unless it serves my purpose)
I HATE GOVERNMENT (unless it stops those liberals and homosexuals)
I HATE STIMULUS (except for money for my district)
I HATE EDUCATION (except when they teach my children that science is god magic)
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
2:32 pm
adam you have heard of youtube right, find it yourself…..and a socialist healthcare system has been in the sights of the leftists for decades…….and when obama loses in a landslide next year and the new pres repeals obamacare, maybe you’lll understand the difference between helping people with a safety net and socialist healthcare, which is obama’s true agenda……wake up
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
2:32 pm
Billybob…. “was he found guilty of anything?”
I hope that ignorance is feigned. OJ was found not guilty criminally but guilty in civil court….was OJ “exonerated”? You better call Nancy Grace and explain that and any number of her other shows. Was there a trial that you can point too? You do realize that in criminal court its a finding of “not guilty” and not “innocent”. One does not mean the same as the other. You are claiming a settlement in favor of the accuser is an exoneration to the accused?
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
2:33 pm
the rain in spain now falls mostly on the cain. swift boat, shmift boat, cain is now a goat.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
2:34 pm
Adam – you forgot:
I LOVE PROTECTING LIFE BEFORE BIRTH AND AFTER DEATH; DURING, MEH.
Scooter
October 31st, 2011
2:34 pm
Welcome to the Occupation, apparently nothing in your view; but not everyone operates from your world view.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
2:36 pm
Billybob: adam you have heard of youtube right, find it yourself
Oh come on, Billybob, you know I’m just a lazy libt*rd and I need everything force fed to me. Why not just give us a link. It would prove you right and I would suddenly become a conservative and think just like you!
Or, you could just back up statements you make instead of hiding behind the “I don’t do research for you” line that is too often used by conservatives as yet another way to avoid responsibility.
scott
October 31st, 2011
2:37 pm
It’s just so coincidental that this story is breaking while Cain is starting to move up on the polls. Why exactly isn’t the media dedicating the same amount of attention towards important things such Solyndra, Beacon Power, Fast and Furious, etc? It seems to me as if they are trying to release these stories in order to lower the attention on these other things that should gain much more attention than they have. hmmmm……. Wouldn’t want to actually perform journalism and cover things that would make Obama’s presidency look worse than it already does. No. We definitely do not want that.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
2:38 pm
Billybob: Do you have an Amazon wishlist? I’d like to gift you a plush Reagan doll to cry in the corner with when Obama wins in 2012.
Your comment saved for when this happens. Oh yes, I am DAMN WELL going to do a BIG I told you so once it happens.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
2:39 pm
one more thing: the forcefulness of cain’s response to the allegations suggests – to the rational, reasonable, non-regressive mind, at least – only one thing: he be a guilty brother.
mm
October 31st, 2011
2:40 pm
“and when obama loses in a landslide next year and the new pres repeals obamacare”
Wow, I didn’t know presidents could repeal laws. I guess we don’t need congress anymore.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
2:41 pm
adam,
you just graduated form LIB 101 didn’t you? keep trying though…..
Jay, that is good to know and I applaud that you spoke up and followed your gut. We both know that this was a political attack on cain about a non-story from almost 20 years ago. The pertinent question is who leaked this story, dems or repubs, wouldn’t you agree? That is the real story here. That should have been in the politico story instead of just throwing out some pieces of this and letting people’s imaginations run…..that is why this is a political hit instead of and open and shut investigative journalist news story…..
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
2:41 pm
billyboob – we didn’t get socialist healthcare (ie, single payer); we got instead a republican plan.
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
2:41 pm
More evidence that Herman Cain has problems with logical assertions and consistency.
Cain: “Number one, in all of my over 40 years of business experience … I have never sexually harassed anyone. Number two, while at the restaurant association, I was accused of sexual harassment. Falsely accused, I might add”
It’s not necessary to add “falsely accused, I might add” since the previous assertion already states that.
One of my biggest problems with Cain is that he just isn’t that bright.
mm
October 31st, 2011
2:42 pm
“Why exactly isn’t the media dedicating the same amount of attention towards important things such Solyndra, Beacon Power, Fast and Furious, etc?”
Yeah, they’ve totally ignored those stories. What they HAVE ignored is outing the GOP for tanking the economy to oust Obama.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
2:43 pm
Billybob: you just graduated form LIB 101 didn’t you? keep trying though….
Keep up the personal attacks. It makes no difference to me, but I think you might have trouble appeasing the blog gods.
mm
October 31st, 2011
2:43 pm
“we didn’t get socialist healthcare (ie, single payer); we got instead a republican plan.”
Commie, don’t let the cat out of the bag, just let the wingnuts stew in their own ignorance.
Talking Head
October 31st, 2011
2:45 pm
“One of my biggest problems with Cain is that he just isn’t that bright.”
Yeah, I guess becoming a self made millionaire by taking on difficult challenges turning bankrupt organizations into profitable entities qualifies someone as not being bright.
scott
October 31st, 2011
2:46 pm
Adam “Or, you could just back up statements you make instead of hiding behind the “I don’t do research for you” line that is too often used by conservatives as yet another way to avoid responsibility.”
Yeah and that line is NEVER used by all of the libs on this blog.
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
October 31st, 2011
2:46 pm
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. said that a man should be judged by the content of their character.
All we are saying is – Cain should be judged by the content of his character. If he is guilty of sexual harassment, then let him be JUDGED BY THE CONTENT OF HIS CHARACTER.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
2:47 pm
communist unite,
first step on the road to a socialist single payer healthcare system which hussein is on video saying he wants and will go for and which the leftist have been trying to install for decades…..the way it is written and the mandates slowly push private sector out and only leaves the gov’t beauracrats to be judge, jury, and executioner…..will not let you misdirect the purpose of this system that was forced upon us and that the overwhelming majority of the public doesn’t want and sees it for what it is and where it leads to…..
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
2:50 pm
Billybob – i certainly hope you’re right. seems as if you have sought to educate yourself more than the typical regressive and for that i commend you.
kayaker 71
October 31st, 2011
2:51 pm
Guess I might as well not run for the presidency of the US. About 55 yrs ago, while a bit wasted, I jumped off the roof of a sorority house into their swimming pool in a state of total undress, with a group of some rather wasted girls and boys, after an all night party. But if I was a Republican and running for our highest office, this would be front page news, even though it happened more than a half century ago. Can’t wait for the left to drag out hours of talk radio comments that Cain made on his radio show. This should make for good reading and should prove that once and for all, you can’t run for President in this country unless you have been wrapped in bubble and isolated from all of humanity until the campaign started. All of you on this blog step forward if you have ever made a mistake, done something that you would like to take back or wished that that one something that you did umpteen years ago really did not happen. We are all in the same boat, my friends, and even a president is not perfect.
scott
October 31st, 2011
2:55 pm
mm “Yeah, they’ve totally ignored those stories. What they HAVE ignored is outing the GOP for tanking the economy to oust Obama.”
Really? They have? The Rep-controlled House has passed bills to help grow jobs. They are waiting on the Dem-controlled Senate to take them up. The Obama “jobs bill” could not pass through the Dem-controlled senate and this was after Reid changed all of the Senate rules to ensure the original version of it never went to a vote. It’s not the Reps fault that the Dems cannot build a consensus. As far as it going through the House, has the bill even gotten a Co-sponsor yet? I stopped checking because the charade had gone on for so long.
Speaking of killing the economy though….don’t you find it interesting that the economy started tubing right about when the Dems took control back after the ‘06 midterms? Hmmmm……….
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
2:55 pm
I see Herman has already unleashed the private sector.
HDB
October 31st, 2011
2:55 pm
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
2:47 pm
“…first step on the road to a socialist single payer healthcare system which hussein is on video saying he wants and will go for and which the leftist have been trying to install for decades…”
Not quite true; the first advocate for universal health care was Theodore Roosevelt…a REPUBLICAN!
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
2:58 pm
Jm
October 31st, 2011
2:21 pm
Mick 2:17
Oooo. You were speaking metaphorically. Well. I wouldn’t blame it all on Bush. This has been building for a loooooong time.
Been building since before you were born, young padawan.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
3:02 pm
Can’t wait for the left to drag out hours of talk radio comments that Cain made on his radio show.
Did he choose to make those comments, or did someone hold a gun to his head and make him run off at the mouth?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
3:03 pm
hdb,
TR was an extreme progressive for the record but i will accept your statement absolutely, and my thinking would be the same then as it is now…..also, i do realize who the rino’s in the repub party are(maybe TR could be defined as this today)……a lot of these guys will be shaking in their boots come next election cycle….i think there will be as much turnover in the republican seats with more conservatives as there will be with the dems losing many seats to republicans…..
adam,
not interested….
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
3:06 pm
must go to create more tax money for the occupy people to want to come and take from me……while not sharing with the homeless people in their midst…..haaaahaaaa…….classic liberalism…..do as i say, not as i do….enjoy the day
mm
October 31st, 2011
3:07 pm
“mandates slowly push private sector out and only leaves the gov’t beauracrats to be judge, jury, and executioner
Like the insurance companies are doing?
“They have? The Rep-controlled House has passed bills to help grow jobs. They are waiting on the Dem-controlled Senate to take them up. The Obama “jobs bill” could not pass through the Dem-controlled senate and this was after Reid changed all of the Senate rules to ensure the original version of it never went to a vote.
Have you seen the garbage in those bills? Repeal Obamacare. Elimnate SS, Medicare. Cut taxes for the rich, increase taxes on the poor. Why don’t you READ the bills?
Dem controlled Senate? It takes 60 votes to break the GOP filibusters. The Dems do not have 60 members in the Senate, so they do not have 60 votes. If they could break the filibuster, yes they could pass the bill. But you know it would die in the house.
You can lie to yourself, but stop lying to everyone else.
Normal
October 31st, 2011
3:08 pm
Interesting read…
http://www.thenation.com/blog/164271/war-halloween-trick-or-treat-conservatives
Back Seater
October 31st, 2011
3:08 pm
Anybody on the planet who is STILL trying to defend the utterly disgraced O’Bama administration as something other than a complete disaster, and arguably the very worst administration in modern history – if not ever – is so far off the charts, they probably contend that Bill did not have sex with that woman…or that Ried and Pelosi are smart honest people……
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:08 pm
Kayaker “This should make for good reading and should prove that once and for all, you can’t run for President in this country unless you have been wrapped in bubble and isolated from all of humanity until the campaign started.”
One other way that you are able to run for President regardless of your past….Run as a Democrat.
Adam
October 31st, 2011
3:08 pm
scott: The “I’m rubber and you’re glue” tu quoque defense won’t work with me. Try again.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
3:09 pm
Interesting reading from Andrew Sullivan:
“Jennifer Rubin fisks Cain’s claim that he was unaware of any settlement agreement reached to resolve the sexual harassment charges:
For that to be true, many things would also have to be true: Herman Cain never asked the NRA how the claim got resolved; Cain never had to sign a settlement agreement or any other document; He trusted the NRA to obtain a complete release on his behalf, and the women never demanded that Cain release potential counterclaims (e.g., for defamation); He never agreed to keep the matter confidential — for example, after he left the NRA. (Arguably the association could bind him while he was still employed, but wouldn’t it have had to tell him to ensure compliance?); and in his role as CEO, Cain never had to approve a settlement, was never told the cost of the settlement and never saw a budget entry confirming a settlement. ”
Makes a person go….MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Welcome to the Occupation
October 31st, 2011
3:11 pm
Talking Head:
“Yeah, I guess becoming a self made millionaire by taking on difficult challenges turning bankrupt organizations into profitable entities qualifies someone as not being bright.”
I don’t know, but come to think of it why hasn’t Donald Trump been running around making slimy insinuations about Herman Cain now showing us his school transcripts?
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
3:11 pm
Billybob, I’m particularly proud of you for seeking that clarification so as to decry Sallie’s scurrilous assertion.
Well done…
Adam
October 31st, 2011
3:11 pm
kayaker: You can run for President without having a ton of moral quandries in your past. I mean, have you caught Obama in any sort of sex scandal? Nope. The worst they have is a bunch of vague marxism kenyan anti-colonialist crap, more than half of which is made up and the rest doesn’t matter except to people who think capitalism is the greatest thing ever and government shouldn’t exist.
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:13 pm
Adam…Try again? What am I trying? Just stating the facts pal. Don’t really care about whether I prove you wrong or not. You guys do a good enough job of proving yourselves wrong as it is. No need for me to help.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
3:15 pm
Herman Cain: give that woodchuck a tuna melt….. Women have a special feeling though, they got extra fatal lady shimmer of no maximum strength.. Happy Hooch Day”
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
3:19 pm
…the economy started tubing right about when the Dems took control back after the ‘06 midterms…
Not intended to be a factual statement.
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:19 pm
Kayaker, Adam is right. You can have your political career kicked off in the living room of Domestic terrorist too and never have to answer to anything from your past. All you have to do is write a book about all of the lines you snorted, then sit in a church for 20 years, listening to a pastor talk badly about America and agree with him until you actually decide to run. Then, when you win the nomination because the journalists bow down before you rather than actually hold you accountable for your past, your wife can finally say that she is proud to be an American for the first time in her life. All you gotta do is follow my first advice though. Run as a Democrat!!! If you are running as a Republican, no need to waste your time. You will just get skewered.
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
3:20 pm
JamVet,
some may never believe it here, but the truth is what i try to find…..and believe me when i say it hurts sometimes when i force myself to read and watch the liberal blogs, the NY Times, the msnbcs, the cnn’s(who a day or so ago had a puff piece on-line about karl marx, which was disgraceful!!!!) Then I make up my mind as to what the truth of the matter is……i may be wrong sometimes, but it is a hell of a lot more of an educated guess than what most people make now-a-days…..must go
Talking Head
October 31st, 2011
3:21 pm
scott,
now you are just ‘acting stupidly’
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
3:21 pm
Poor back seat dude, no options other than the Joe Biden technique?
L-a-m-e…
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:21 pm
Kamchak. You WOULD know a statement not based on facts. You put them out there all of the time. The facts are out there. Just look at pretty much every key economic stat around. We started tubing when the Dems came into play.
A dad
October 31st, 2011
3:22 pm
Even if one of the allegations is true, did it involve a cigar? Or is inappropriate behavior of a sexual nature permissible if you’re a democrat? Remind me Jay. Did you write a column about Clinton and Lewinsky when that scandal broke?
Billybob
October 31st, 2011
3:22 pm
nice scott…
Adam
October 31st, 2011
3:23 pm
scott: There’s plenty of scandal to go around. It’s not tied to any particular political party, as much as either side might wish that to be so.
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
3:25 pm
The facts are out there. Just look at pretty much every key economic stat around.
The moment we adopted laissez-faire, trickle-on, supply-side, phlogiston alchemy Econ 101 was the moment we sealed our fate.
It always was just a matter of time.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
3:26 pm
Back Seater @ 3:08pm – YES, ME ME ME. I THINK PRESIDENT O IS GRRRRRRRRRRRRRREAT AND AM HOPING FOR 4 MORE YEARS. SURE, NOT EVERYTHING’S GONE AS PLANNED BUT WHEN THE HISTORY IS WRITTEN HE’LL BE CONSIDERED ONE OF THE GREATEST EVER. OBAMA 2012!!!!!
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
3:26 pm
“We started tubing (?)
when the Dems came into playin the early 1980s.”moonbat betty
October 31st, 2011
3:27 pm
Republicans are held to a higher standard since they speak of things such as ethics, integrity and honesty.
Since the Democrats do not speak of such moral standards, they are free to look past their own short comings.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
3:29 pm
betty, even you don’t believe that.
I’m not sure even a recently awakened Rip Van Winkle would!
It is sixth grade ludicrous…
Adam
October 31st, 2011
3:29 pm
moonbat betty: You’re close to being right. If you replace “ethics, integrity and honesty” with “family values,” you’d be right.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 31st, 2011
3:29 pm
Speaking of things such as ethics, integrity and honesty does not mean that the Republicans have any of the things they speak of.
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:30 pm
Adam, I agree with you. There is plenty of scandal. Politicians are scumbags…..Pretty much ALL of them. The problem is that the media seems to make big deals out of thing only when it is a Rep candidate. If this story was about Obama, do you think we would have even heard a peep from the media? Like I pointed out previously, Obama had his career launched in the living room of a Domestic TERRORIST and there was ZERO scrutiny. I mean really what is the difference between what Ayers did and what McVeigh did?
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
3:30 pm
moonbat BATTY; fixed your name for ‘ya; no need to thank me.
Back Seater
October 31st, 2011
3:31 pm
Is it true that O’Bama has a retainer of $105,000 for a dog trainer at taxpayer expense?
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
3:32 pm
“Did you write a column about Clinton and Lewinsky when that scandal broke?”
Yes, and asked President Clinton to resign.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
3:33 pm
Back Seater – yes, it’s true; Ryan and Cantor don’t respond to normal human interaction; hence the need to treat them like the dogs they are; money well spent if you ask me.
Bosch
October 31st, 2011
3:34 pm
“The problem is that the media seems to make big deals out of thing only when it is a Rep candidate”
OMG, were you visiting another PLANET when the Weiner story broke? That’s the only way I can imagine you didn’t see or hear the 24/7 constant news about that.
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 31st, 2011
3:36 pm
The intertubes are stone cold binging today on Cain’s awfulness
from All Over the googleland –
“Herman Cain’s goon squad captain Mark Block started a short-lived shell corporation ‘Prosperity USA’ to funnel $40,000 to Cain’s campaign early this year for fancy pants iPads and private jet trips, which the campaign then promptly “forgot” to report to the FEC, because it’s crazy illegal.”
Do you know how hard it is to do something illegal in the Days of Citizens’ United?
And the saddest thing is, this should have been the most important story, but the other story had teh sexytime, yknow
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:37 pm
Weiner was a candidate for President when his thing happened??? Must have missed that. I had NO IDEA that the Dems were having a primary. Somebody tell Obama. I know he has already been campaigning on the taxpayers dime but I think he needs to start directing his attention against Weiner instead of riding around blaming Reps for his Dem-controlled Senate’s inability to pass a jobs bill.
"Bishop Long"
October 31st, 2011
3:37 pm
Hang in there Brother Cain. I didn’t do what they accused me of either. My sheep are still defending my good name just as your supporters are doingon this blog.
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
3:39 pm
Scott
“ZERO scrutiny”
What planet are you really from.
If there truly was “ZERO scrutiny” who’s fault would that be????
you had the entire republican election apparatus looking at Barack Obama
Don’t gripe about the media, son…..
Blame the GOP
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
3:41 pm
GOP = great old poopyheads. there, i said it.
schnirtTM
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:43 pm
In other news that will gather more attention than what the media applied to Obama’s past during his 2008 campaign, did you see where Kim Kardashian is divorcing her husband after only 72 days!!!
josef
October 31st, 2011
3:44 pm
As that great commentator Roseanne Rosannadanna said, “it just goes to show ya, if it’s not one thing it’s another…”
Funny, though, the Imam left this one up all day and it IS Hallowe’en…
Democrat-Republican? Oh, please, these shennanigans no no such narrow bounds,,,which has the most, the biggest, etc? This is, indeed, Paracelsus’ “two wh-res discussing chastity…”
Adam
October 31st, 2011
3:44 pm
Oof. Lots of work to do. Seems that lately people are feeling like getting their computers fixed! I’m gonna have to get out of here so I’ll see you guys later.
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
In more news that will gather more attention than Obama’s effort to cover up more important things like Fast and Furious, Solyndra, and Beacon Energy, did you see where a new Amy Winehouse album will be coming out in two months? They say she is high in one of them. I wonder if Obama joined her for a few lines…….of her song.
MightyRighty
October 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
It’s just about sex. If he would have exposed himself to a stranger like Paula Jones and then paid her $700,000 to shut up, or allegations of rape like Jennifer Flowers and others Jay and the rest of the leftwing conspirators would cheer. Perversion and lies is the lefts M.O.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
Herman Cain should resign his office effective midnight tonight.
josef, we’re just having fun watching the Cainiac heads explode…
godless heathen
October 31st, 2011
3:49 pm
sheets, all my kingdom for fresh sheets
Granny Godzilla
October 31st, 2011
3:49 pm
scott
bless your heart
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:51 pm
Alright….time to actually get something done today before the little kids come to my house looking for some of those “Obama-money” like handouts.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 31st, 2011
3:52 pm
Well, somebody let me know when they dig up the legal papers. I mean, I’m not intrusted in scandal, but I do like to keep in the know. I’d appreciate any details, the dirtier the better. One of them long Ken Whathisname reports—you know with the details about the cigar and stuff like that—would be just perfect to bring me up to date. I’ll just be doing my Christian duty to learn about Sin and shame the people that do it.
I bet the Rick Perry people are whooping and hollering right now.
josef
October 31st, 2011
3:52 pm
AmVet
Breederss is messy!
scott
October 31st, 2011
3:52 pm
Granny….well, thank you. Have a nice Happy Halloween.
josef
October 31st, 2011
3:53 pm
heathen
My kingdom added to yours! Looks like this would be pretty much exhausted to me and I just got here…
That Black guy
October 31st, 2011
3:58 pm
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
3:45 pm
Herman Cain should resign his office effective midnight tonight.
Jam, what office does Cain hold?
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
Dang, scott.
Dissin’ on all the little Republican kids in your neighborhood?
That’s cold…
Stan Smith
October 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
You know that Cain is for real when the libs pull out the age old tactic of the politics of personal destruction. I guess that Cain is for real if he’s the one getting attacked as opposed to Romney. With Obama’s approval ratings in the toilet and nothing positive to run on, destroying his opponent will be the only strategy that has a remote possibility of getting him re-elected. Ask yourselves, “Am I better off now than when Obama took office ?” For the greater population, regardless of whether you’re a 1%, 99%, or whatever %, the answer is definitively NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
4:00 pm
That Black Guy – Cain is at present Idiot in Chief of the Regressive Party Beauty Kontest
TaxPayer
October 31st, 2011
4:01 pm
I think it was Michele Bachmann in the den on the phone to Politico while holding a candle stick.
JamVet
October 31st, 2011
4:04 pm
Exactly, Black Guy.
That’s the point.
(It’s called sarcasm…)
To date, the man has never even won an election for dogcatcher.
And these rubes think he’s qualified to have access to the nuclear football?
Given his embarrassing track record in this campaign, I personally doubt that he could run a town hall meeting…
Kamchak
October 31st, 2011
4:05 pm
For all of you playing blog BINGO — just got an order in to the printers for the new card with the “Kim Kardashian/72 days/media won’t talk about Obama” square. My order should be filled in the next few days.
Please be patient.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
4:10 pm
JamVet – I think you’re being a little harsh; at a minimum, the Cainster could run a meeting for (i) smokers anonymous and (ii) a gather of pro-choicers.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
4:10 pm
oops, meant “gathering of pro-choicers”; had a little too much vodka today to combat the cold.
Tom Middleton
October 31st, 2011
4:15 pm
Besides the hush-money payouts as proof of guilt, does anyone remember if Herman smoked afterwards? I mean, don’t some men smoke after sex or at least thinking about it?
Maybe that’s why Mark Block, Herman’s campaign manager, blew cigarette smoke into the camera last week: He’d just heard the story and wanted to smoke for Mr. Cain, since his cancer-prone boss wouldn’t have done it at the time.
I knew it, I knew it, Herman is guilty, guilty, guilty; and thank you, Mark, for your honest bad habit…LOL!
WOODSTOCK MIKE
October 31st, 2011
4:35 pm
“She was in my office one day, and I made a gesture saying — and I was standing close to her — and I made a gesture saying you are the same height as my wife. And I brought my hand up to my chin saying, ‘My wife comes up to my chin.’” At that point, Cain gestured with his flattened palm near his chin. “And that was put in there [the complaint] as something that made her uncomfortable,” Cain said, “something that was in the sexual harassment charge.”
Wow, that horrible man!! He said she was as tall as his wife!! You libs are so weak…
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
4:46 pm
Oh, Woodstock Mike, but you left out what he said next: “It will probably take about the same amount of effort to bend you over, then.” Facts, facts, inconvenient facts. Mike and I wrote it so it must be true, right?
Steve
October 31st, 2011
4:47 pm
Normal – saw your comment “Off topic, but an old canard from Sean Hannity…”Halloween…is teaching our kids to be liberals…because we’re teaching kids to knock on other people’s doors and ask for a handout”. I guess it would be better to be a republican and turn them away empty handed.
Communists Unite
October 31st, 2011
5:16 pm
steve: i’ll add – republican males will have to molest male kids for it to be a really authentic experience; and then for them to swindle the kids’ life savings. yup, your regressive party at work right thar.
Cain You Believe It! Heaven Help Us!
October 31st, 2011
5:18 pm
Stan Smith October 31st, 2011 4:00 pm
I am willing to bet that one of the GOP candidates leaked this information.
GT
October 31st, 2011
5:34 pm
I think it would be interesting to see who leaked this out to the public. I think you will find it was a Republican candidate. It does the Democrats no good to use this card now and since someone has held it for many years why now do you pull it out. I also think Cain is a little like the Democrats on this one. He has never been a person who takes himself too seriously which seems to bother the public more that the act itself. Hart had a lot of that self righteous act on the Democratic side people and got busted because of it.
Jay
October 31st, 2011
6:01 pm
Cain reportedly acknowledges in a Fox interview taped today for broadcast tonight that he DID know of a settlement in at least one case.
Adam
November 1st, 2011
8:05 am
He may have nullified the confidentiality agreement by talking about it.