Romney is what happens when a party outFoxes itself
This is a portion of George Will’s column to be published Sunday, and I confess I find it pretty damn funny, if unintentionally so:
“Romney, supposedly the Republican most electable next November, is a recidivist reviser of his principles who is not only becoming less electable, he might damage GOP chances of capturing the Senate: Republican successes down the ticket will depend on the energies of the tea party and other conservatives, who will be deflated by a nominee whose blurry profile in caution communicates only calculated trimming. Republicans may have found their Michael Dukakis, a technocratic Massachusetts governor who takes his bearings from ‘data’ … Has conservatism come so far, surmounting so many obstacles, to settle, at a moment of economic crisis, for THIS?”
Yes, George, it has. Because, well … who else ya got?
Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Michele Bachmann? Newt Gingrich? Really? Would you be comfortable sticking the title “President” in front of any of those names? Nah, didn’t think so.
I can’t disagree with anything that Will writes about Romney because, well, it’s all so true. (See example below, on climate change*). The man would straddle anything, up to and including a barbed wire fence, and he’d do it with that same forced grin on his face. As Will notes elsewhere in his column, “A straddle is not a political philosophy; it is what you do when you do not have one.”
The question is, how did the Republican Party get to a point in which it has no feasible alternative to this “recidivist reviser”?
I think Andrew Sullivan hit on part of the answer while musing about how a candidate with Cain’s obvious lack of qualifications remains such a force in the GOP primary.
“But Cain is a function, I think, of a deeper Republican reality. It has become a wing of the entertainment industry, and in that media-industrial complex, the money to be made is immense. You do not make that money or become a star in conservative circles by actually governing, by the process of compromise and negotiation with one’s opponents, or by detailed policy knowledge. In the universe where conservatism is defined by Levin and Malkin and Limbaugh and Hannity, you have to be a great polemicist, you have to be partisan above all, you need to be outrageous at times, and you have to appeal to the gut, rather than the brain.
This is an entertainment company based around a religious identity politics and masquerading as a political party. Once you grasp that, you can see why a Mitch Daniels or a Richard Lugar or a Jon Huntsman are asterisks. They know things; they want to govern, not perform; and they are not in a permanent mode of marginalized and angry opposition.
I’m beginning to wonder if the GOP is heading for a defeat they don’t see coming – even in an economic environment which should make the presidency theirs’ for the taking. I hope it is. Something needs to wake them up from their increasing detachment from the reality of governance.”
Put a little more succinctly, the party has outFoxed itself.
* A case in point:
Romney in June:
“I don’t speak for the scientific community, of course, but I believe the world’s getting warmer. I can’t prove that, but I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer. And number two, I believe that humans contribute to that. I don’t know how much our contribution is to that, because I know that there have been periods of greater heat and warmth in the past but I believe we contribute to that. And so I think it’s important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may well be significant contributors to the climate change and the global warming that you’re seeing.”
And Romney now:
“My view is that we don’t know what’s causing climate change on this planet. And the idea of spending trillions and trillions of dollars to try to reduce CO2 emissions is not the right course for us…. I think the EPA, acting in concert with the president, really doesn’t like oil, gas, coal, and nuclear. I really do believe that the EPA wants to get its hands on all of energy and be able to crush it to cause prices to go through the roof.”
– Jay Bookman
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Armed Liberal
October 28th, 2011
11:30 am
Frist!
F. Sinkwich
October 28th, 2011
11:30 am
I agree with Will.
Romney is just another Dole or McCain.
Richard
October 28th, 2011
11:31 am
Paul or Johnson. Problem solved.
Newtpewt
October 28th, 2011
11:32 am
Most all of the GOP candidates, except for Romney, Huntsmen and Paul will have signed contracts w/ Roger Ailes and Fox News soon after Nov. 2012. They seem to be auditioning for a job on that channel, much like Sarah Palin.
F. Sinkwich
October 28th, 2011
11:35 am
Sullivan:
“and you have to appeal to the gut, rather than the brain.”
Bet he never said that about O’bozo even though that statement applies so much more to him.
Lord Help Us
October 28th, 2011
11:35 am
I bet Hillary could win the GOP primary…They ARE that desperate.
Armed Liberal
October 28th, 2011
11:35 am
“Memo to the Republican field: You’re running for president. Of the United States. Of America. Start acting like it. Stop proposing nonsense tax plans that won’t work. Stop making ridiculous attention-getting ads that might be minimally acceptable if you were running for county supervisor in Oklahoma. Stop saying you’re going to build a US-Mexico border fence you know perfectly well you’re not going to build. Give the GOP electorate and the American people some credit. This country is in terrible shape. They know it. You know it. They want solutions. You’re providing comedy,” – John Podhoretz, in the New York Post.
“The identification of the GOP as mouthpiece for the selfish interests of the wealthy is a stubborn image, difficult to overcome at the best of times. For three years, however, Republican leaders have been doing their utmost to confirm the stereotype – and to quash and quell any attempt to counter that stereotype. Did we really spend months and months arguing that one of the things most wrong with the US tax code is that the poor and unemployed pay too little tax? Yes we did. Head shake. Face slap” – David Frum
borrowed from Andrew Sullivan’s place…
ty webb
October 28th, 2011
11:37 am
How did Sullivan have time to opine on the GOP, I thought he was to busy persuing the whole “who’s Trig’s real parents” story.
Curtis Rivers
October 28th, 2011
11:38 am
Well, Jay, we can only hope this is an accurate prediction of the GOP’s continuing fall from reality, and that we will see the re-election of Obama as “the only adult in the room.” While Obama has been thwarted by the GOP on so many issues, there is at least some hope for a non-Cromwellian future for the USA.
Stonethrower
October 28th, 2011
11:40 am
Just Great! 4 more years of gridlock.
Adam
October 28th, 2011
11:41 am
I’m beginning to wonder if the GOP is heading for a defeat they don’t see coming
YES. Yes they are. Look no further than the people ON THIS VERY BLOG who continually act so smug thinking Obama will lose simply because he is Obama nad the GOP candidate, no matter who it is, can do no wrong.
Mark my words, all you people who keep saying Obama is out in 2012 are in for a nasty shock. Better order your plush Reagan doll if you don’t already have one because for 4 more years you will need it for your crying in the corner.
Mick
October 28th, 2011
11:42 am
Jay – the art of the written word, man do all of you writers just nail it…
Paul
October 28th, 2011
11:44 am
““A straddle is not a political philosophy; it is what you do when you do not have one.””
Oh, I think Romney has a political philosophy. But I also think he knows the people who control the process view anyone other than a Pope Gregory IX (who instituted the Inquisition to combat a specific heresy) is a nogoodsocialistliberalRINO.
But what really galls Republicans is the knowledge if Romney can appear to compromise what he believes to win the prize, he’ll also compromise with Democrats for the good of the country.
And for that he should face the Inquisition.
BTW, I think I really like Andrew Sullivan.
Jm
October 28th, 2011
11:49 am
I like Romney. I know he dances. And that’s fine by me. It’s required in this day and age.
If you can’t dance, don’t go to the ball.
I sympathize with Will. But he’s overly flustered.
md
October 28th, 2011
11:49 am
Screw the right (and you already know how I feel about the left), they can go shove “their” ideals along with those on the left………..there are plenty of folks that don’t much care for the strict ideology of either “side”. If the right wants to understand how I voted for Clinton, all they have to do is put up a candidate that is rigidly right…….and they may find it happening again. (Although Obama is not an option in my book, so sitting out may be the better choice).
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 28th, 2011
11:52 am
I posted it last night but worth doing again.
The next great Republican hope to take the lead in the polls: Koran-buring pastor Terry Jones wants to be President. Now I understand he is running as an independent but surely the Scared Mittless crowd [from Jon Stewart] can seduce him
Phil Kloer
October 28th, 2011
11:53 am
Paul makes a valid point. Romney does have a political philosophy, of being a moderate, pragmatic Republican. But that doesnt work in today’s GOP so he has had to remake himself into more of a Tea Partier.
Mick
October 28th, 2011
11:57 am
jm
Romney may know how to dance the two step but he speaks with forked tongue…
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
11:57 am
Huntsman rightly indicts this hijacked GOP as the anti-science party.
I think that is only part of the bigger picture.
As advanced by their power brokers, and in honor of their “base”, they have become the anti-intellect party.
And this second consecutive slate of laughable, low-browed con artists feigning to be conservatives candidates is just more evidence.
They are the political version of the uber-rich televangelists and other such transparent frauds.
And poor Willard has painted himself into a neo-con corner where he does not want to be.
This promises to be another laughfest comparable to the one in 2008…
Paul
October 28th, 2011
11:58 am
“Pragmatism’ means RINO to Republicans.
Ideology above all.
Jm
October 28th, 2011
11:59 am
MD sitting out is a 1/2 vote for Obama
Romney will probably be the nominee
And the rest of them aren’t as crazy as the media makes them out to be. Except Ron Paul maybe.
southdem
October 28th, 2011
11:59 am
The GOP Establishment Will speaks for catered to the radical right wing for years, and now that its seized control of the party from them they can’t figure out what went wrong. Darn right they’re facing a massive defeat and don’t realize it, whether they go with Romney, Cain, or whoever.
My prediction: Obama wins 400+electoral votes next November, the Dems keep the Senate and make gains in the House. In 2014 the Dems retake the House. The GOP will then spin into an even crazier destruction mode and nominate some goober who makes Bachmann looks sane. Then Hillary or Biden or whoever’s the Dem nominee will win another 400+ victory. Then madybe by 2020 the GOP will be as dead as the Whigs and we’ll have a responsible center right party to balance the Dems again.
Mr_B
October 28th, 2011
12:00 pm
Much as I hate to admit it, there is something to be said for Sink’s 11:35. As I see it, Obama’s prime mistakewas believing that the Republicans were the “loyal opposition,” willing to exchange ideas and come up with a viable direction for the country.
Unforntunately most of the GOP feild seems to be both intellectually and morally bankrupt, and they like it that way.
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
12:01 pm
md, I understand, but I would counsel against “sitting this one out”.
I’ve never really considered it a viable option, even when I fought back weeks of nausea and voted for Ronnie once!
larry
October 28th, 2011
12:01 pm
I know if Fox doesnt want the rest of the Republican field, they could go to Chicago and be a part of the Second City Comedy Troup. Saturday Night Live would not run out of people to put on the show.
Adam
October 28th, 2011
12:02 pm
holy crap: http://dsc.discovery.com/gear-gadgets/cant-decide-between-a-private-island-or-a-mega-yacht-get-both-in-one.html
Jay
October 28th, 2011
12:03 pm
Phil, I’d agree that Romney at least used to have that philosophy, because I’ve had the chance to discuss it with him. He came across just as you describe, moderate and pragmatic, the kind of Republican I was first attracted to right out of college.
But in the years since then, he has had to work so hard to repress that other Romney and to embrace this new persona that I’m not sure he really knows what he believes anymore. You can’t keep denying your authentic self for so long without it taking a toll.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
12:04 pm
what really galls Republicans is the knowledge if Romney can appear to compromise what he believes to win the prize, he’ll also compromise with Democrats for the good of the country.
Sounds about right, yep.
Back Seater
October 28th, 2011
12:04 pm
Adam,
Based on the current political envirnorment, I suggest it is you that needs to purchase a crying towel, cause your man is going down, down, down.
Jm
October 28th, 2011
12:04 pm
Mick 11:57
Well my parsel tongue translator works just fine
It may be more difficult for others to understand, I grant you
Tall
October 28th, 2011
12:05 pm
“…..while musing about how a candidate with Cain’s obvious lack of qualifications remains such a force in the GOP primary……”
We are now 3 years into the Obama presidency. President Obama is good at campaigning and getting himself elected, but not much else. Why wasn’t Obama’s lack of experience a problem four years ago? President Cain would be a notable improvement over who we have now.
Jm
October 28th, 2011
12:06 pm
Mick 11:57 here ya go
Parseltonguetranslator.warnerbros.com/parseltongue.php
larry
October 28th, 2011
12:07 pm
I can hear it now……….in the fall of 2013………………..
” ITS SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE………..WITH MICHELLE BACHMANN………. HERMAN CAIN…………………………………….WITH YOUR HOST, MILT ROMNEY!!!!
RB from Gwinnett
October 28th, 2011
12:07 pm
“Unforntunately most of the GOP feild seems to be both intellectually and morally bankrupt, and they like it that way.”
Said right after the comment chastising the R’s for not being the “loyal opposition”. Tell us Mr_B, why in the hell would anybody want to work with you or “come together” with you when you feel that way about them? I suspect you’re too stupid to see your attitude IS the problem.
Jm
October 28th, 2011
12:09 pm
Adam
That is awesome
Don’t be jealous. Love capitalism and it will love you back.
Aquagirl
October 28th, 2011
12:10 pm
Look no further than the people ON THIS VERY BLOG who continually act so smug thinking Obama will lose simply because he is Obama
Why wouldn’t they think that? This is the party of extreme denalism, with it’s birtherism and anti-science nuttery front and center. They lock themselves in that little echo chamber and for them, Obama’s loss is as plain as the nose on your face. They seriously believe that. Funny thing though, when something happens that is clearly counter to their version of reality, they have an amazing ability to sail right along like it never happened.
Wingnuts live in a self-imposed 1984. Nobody forces them to the theater where Big Broth…excuse me, Rush Limbaugh rants about Eurasia non-stop. They do it to themselves.
F. Sinkwich
October 28th, 2011
12:10 pm
Part of Romney’s problem is Romneycare:
“Support for Democrats’ healthcare reform has hit its lowest point since the law passed in March 2010, says a new monthly poll from the Kaiser Family Foundation. After months of split support for the law, 51 percent of respondents to the latest poll had an unfavorable view while only 34 percent had a favorable impression. “
Jm
October 28th, 2011
12:10 pm
Jay 12:03
The man hasn’t lost his bearings jay
Peadawg
October 28th, 2011
12:13 pm
GOP candidate vs. Obama in 2012
Yup…we’re screwed either way.
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
12:14 pm
Paul, LOL at you comment about pragmatism. It is hard not to agree.
Also, add these words to the list of GOP no-nos;
Moderation, accountability, progress, compromise, statesmanship and vision.
Why did the Republican Party kill conservatism???
Jimmy62
October 28th, 2011
12:14 pm
I agree. If there’s one thing Obama has shown us, it’s that electing an inexperienced guy is a bad idea. If you’ve never really worked in the real world, if your entire adult existence was lived inside of a left wing fantasy bubble, then you probably won’t do a good job running a country.
Paul
October 28th, 2011
12:16 pm
F. Sinkwich
Surely you’re not saying the Massachusetts plan now is identical to what it was when Romney left office?
Jm
October 28th, 2011
12:17 pm
If u want jobs, vote Romney
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
12:18 pm
George Will just now figuring this out?
The GOP not only has candidate problems they have
pundit issues as well.
What conderns me….
As the majority of the GOP finally realizes what a hole they have dug themselves into, the ugliest fringiest of them will just get uglier and fringier.
Some of those folks could well be dangerous.
Paul
October 28th, 2011
12:18 pm
AmVet
“Why did the Republican Party kill conservatism???”
I know I say it so often it sounds trite, but
Money and Power.
With a base who are willing to commit suicide to serve their betters.
md
October 28th, 2011
12:18 pm
jm and Am……..if the choice is bad or bad, I don’t see sitting out as a problem……if I like neither, it doesn’t much matter to me which one screws up the country……I won’t like it either way.
Paul
October 28th, 2011
12:20 pm
Jm
“The man hasn’t lost his bearings…”
The Party had a screw loose and lost it?
Mr_B
October 28th, 2011
12:21 pm
RB: Over the years I have known many Republicans who I admired and respected. I’ve seen many Republicans that I considered statesmen, even I didn’t agree with their ideas about many of the details of organizing our common society. I suspect that some of those people still exist. There are Republicans for whom I could vote. Unfortunately none of them, (except maybe Huntsman) are running for the nomination.
saywhat?
October 28th, 2011
12:21 pm
md- Clinton, but not Obama? They are both centrists, and if anything, Obama is at least just as if not a little more open to compromise with the right.
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
12:23 pm
62, though your explanation sure doesn’t account for the worst ever – George Walker Bush – does it?
Tall
October 28th, 2011
12:24 pm
“….Why wouldn’t they think that? This is the party of extreme denalism, with it’s birtherism and anti-science nuttery front and center. They lock themselves in that little echo chamber and for them, Obama’s loss is as plain as the nose on your face. They seriously believe that. Funny thing though, when something happens that is clearly counter to their version of reality, they have an amazing ability to sail right along like it never happened. …”
More comedy. Keep it up. I guess that’s me you’re referring to. Yes…I am completely incapable of thinking for myself.
Ross Perot
October 28th, 2011
12:25 pm
If you put Romney on dancing with the stars, he’d win in a landslide! He would pull the democrat base and their intellect completely!
Jay
October 28th, 2011
12:25 pm
A case in point:
Romney in June:
“I don’t speak for the scientific community, of course, but I believe the world’s getting warmer. I can’t prove that, but I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer. And number two, I believe that humans contribute to that. I don’t know how much our contribution is to that, because I know that there have been periods of greater heat and warmth in the past but I believe we contribute to that. And so I think it’s important for us to reduce our emissions of pollutants and greenhouse gases that may well be significant contributors to the climate change and the global warming that you’re seeing.”
And Romney now:
“My view is that we don’t know what’s causing climate change on this planet. And the idea of spending trillions and trillions of dollars to try to reduce CO2 emissions is not the right course for us….
I think the EPA, acting in concert with the president, really doesn’t like oil, gas, coal, and nuclear. I really do believe that the EPA wants to get its hands on all of energy and be able to crush it to cause prices to go through the roof.”
Anybody believe Mitt “really does believe that” nonsense?
Guy Incognito
October 28th, 2011
12:26 pm
“the man, identified as a member of the Wahhabi branch of Islam, was killed by a sniper after firing a Kalashnikov rifle at the US mission”
Another peaceful follower of Allah
Don't Tread
October 28th, 2011
12:27 pm
“Republican successes down the ticket will depend on the energies of the tea party and other conservatives, who will be deflated by a [presedential] nominee…”
On the contrary, if Romney does win the nomination, I think the tea party will increase the efforts to get their Congressmen of choice elected because that will be their only representation. Romney certainly won’t help them unless he’s forced to do it (seems unlikely).
saywhat?
October 28th, 2011
12:29 pm
Jimmy62
October 28th, 2011
12:14 pm
“I agree. If there’s one thing Obama has shown us, it’s that electing an inexperienced guy is a bad idea. If you’ve never really worked in the real world, if your entire adult existence was lived inside of a left wing fantasy bubble, then you probably won’t do a good job running a country”
Really? You expect people to take you seriously with crap like this. We are expected to believe that Harvard law school, the Illinois state legislature and the US Senate are all “left wing fantasy bubbles”? Maybe on planet62 in the universe of wingnuttia.
But, if you are so against electing an “inexperienced guy”, I guess you will be voting for Obama in 2012. He is after all, the only person running with experience in the position.
larry
October 28th, 2011
12:29 pm
I sure would love to do nothing for $174,000 a year…………… show up a couple of weeks and then go on vacation for a couple of weeks.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/campaigns/republicans-plan-to-convene-house-for-109-days-next-year-but-democrats-say-thats-too-few/2011/10/27/gIQAbyNxMM_story.html
md
October 28th, 2011
12:29 pm
“They are both centrists, and if anything, Obama is at least just as if not a little more open to compromise with the right.”
Obama wants folks to “think” he is a centrist……his actions say otherwise. The mere use of class warfare turns me off on him…………..I don’t like too many that intentionally mislead. Comparing Buffet to his secretary was the final straw. They both have the exact same cap gains rate, and we already have a progressive tax structure…….twisting that the way he did is nauseating.
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
12:30 pm
OK, off to be a happy idiot and earn a few bucks.
Jay, your 12:25 reminded me of this one…
The use of solar energy has not been opened up because the oil industry does not own the sun. ~ Ralph Nader
Toodles, all…
Libertarian
October 28th, 2011
12:31 pm
I would personally love to watch Newt debate Obama. Newt would kick his butt.
Paul
October 28th, 2011
12:32 pm
Jay
“Anybody believe Mitt “really does believe that” nonsense?”
I sure hope not. There’s a good chance he could be our next president. It’d never happen, but I’d hope in his inaugural address he’d say “We’ve been through a challenging primary and election fight. Many things were said. But that’s all past. The time for nuttiness is over. It’s time for reality to reestablish itself.”
saywhat?
October 28th, 2011
12:34 pm
md- I disagree. Pointing out what inequities exist in an economic system is not class warfare, especially if the consequences of those inequities negatively affect society and the economy as a whole. Perpetuating and defending those inequities as if they are somehow sacrosanct IS class warfare.
md
October 28th, 2011
12:35 pm
“anybody believe Mitt “really does believe that” nonsense?”
I see no problem with it……there is a difference between doing something to reduce emissions and going to the extreme to do something to reduce emissions. And it is no secret that the extreme tree huggers would prefer the more extreme course.
pat
October 28th, 2011
12:35 pm
Anyone of those names would be better with president in front of it that what we have. Obama has been an unmittiaged failure from day one. I am less afraid of a Romney or Perry White House than a another four years of this horror of a president.
Everything he has done is a failure.
As you well know this won’t be decided by you or I, it’s the folks who are watching DWTS and Glee and have no idea who the candidates are until about August or September of next year.
There is no way in hell I am voting for four more years of recession and torturously bad leadership and there is no way yall are voting for a republican. So it’s not really up to us…
saywhat?
October 28th, 2011
12:35 pm
Why is everything in italics? I’m so confused……..
Mad Max
October 28th, 2011
12:37 pm
Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Michele Bachmann? Newt Gingrich? Really? Would you be comfortable sticking the title “President” in front of any of those names?
More comfortable than I am with the boy who currently holds the title.
Guy Incognito
October 28th, 2011
12:38 pm
“saywhat?
October 28th, 2011
12:35 pm
Why is everything in italics? I’m so confused……..”
I guess it’s not just me
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
12:38 pm
teh slanties! argh!
md
October 28th, 2011
12:39 pm
“Pointing out what inequities exist in an economic system is not class warfare,”
Which would be fine……but that is not what he did. He compared 2 totally different aspects of the tax structure to each other……….and that stinks.
Do they both not have the same cap gains rate??
Do we already not have a progressive income tax structure?
He compared apples to oranges……..intentionally.
RB from Gwinnett
October 28th, 2011
12:39 pm
Mitt is the sort of conservative a state like Mass could embrace. That’s NOT the kind of conservative we need.
md
October 28th, 2011
12:40 pm
“Why is everything in italics? I’m so confused……..”
Glad I’m not the only one too…..
Mad Max
October 28th, 2011
12:41 pm
I call him boy because he acts like a little boy. When he grows up and accepts responsibility, I’ll call him a man. Act like a boy, get called a boy.
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
12:42 pm
Been slightly delayed.
Class warfare is just the new buzz word in the Republispeak lexicon. And like the other entries therein, is meaningless.
There are two Americas.
Fact.
And it has rapidly gotten much, much worse. With devastating consequences.
Quit whining about fed up people who are no longer rolling over and playing dead and who are at long last, finally speaking out against systemic injustice and legalized thievery.
And join them.
Sean
October 28th, 2011
12:42 pm
What is up with the italic?
jt
October 28th, 2011
12:42 pm
Concerning Romney,………Bookman needs to get a room.
Mr. Snarky
October 28th, 2011
12:43 pm
Romney is a weasel. Everybody knows it.
He may be weaselly enough to get the Repub nomination, but that’s all.
Remember how Bush crucified Kerry? And he just flip flopped on one issue…Romney is a serial flopper and that’s going to make it easy for the dems.
Butch Cassidy
October 28th, 2011
12:44 pm
Listen to me my Republican friends, Huntsman is your only hope. Stop cheering for the loudest speaker in the room and start listening. Huntsman is everything you need in order to have a chance of unseating Obama. Like it or not, the current band of merry misfits, will do nothing but ensure an Obama victory in 2012. I don’t have any party loyalty, but it’s just to painful to watch you guys back the wrong horse day after day.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 28th, 2011
12:44 pm
Jay, omits a few important details. Obama’s unfavorable poll numbers and the fact that the majority of voters have increasingly become uncomfortable with the title “President” in front of Barack Obama’s name. It’s the economy stupid and Obama as proven himself to be a low achiever in coming up with solutions to our economic problems. I don’t believe that Jay and his left wing cohorts are as confident in Obama winning re-election as they’re making themselves out to be.
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
12:44 pm
“He compared 2 totally different aspects of the tax structure to each other…”
was that top secret or something?
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
12:47 pm
I’d be comfortable with those four as president, also.
Herman as the president of the Anti-Islamic League.
Rick as the president of the Global Cooling Alliance.
Michelle as the president of the Nurse Ratched Club.
And Newt as the president of the “Where’s my next wife?” Association.
md
October 28th, 2011
12:47 pm
“Class warfare is just the new buzz word in the Republispeak lexicon”
Not an R, and I’ll call them like I see them, of course it’s class warfare Am……but I really don’t expect anyone that drives a foreign car and doesn’t understand the effect it has on this country to “get it”.
But don’t feel too bad…..you are not alone. There are others here too that don’t understand the concept of foreign companies doing business here controlling the profits of the entire company….
Obama Supporter to the end
October 28th, 2011
12:49 pm
You can’t beat somebody (Obama) with nobody (Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Michele Bachmann? Newt Gingrich?) Nah!
saywhat?
October 28th, 2011
12:49 pm
“Which would be fine……but that is not what he did. He compared 2 totally different aspects of the tax structure to each other……….and that stinks.
Do they both not have the same cap gains rate??”
**But we don’t all have equal access to to those different tax structures. What percentage of their annual income can even a middle class indivual hope to make off of capital gains?**
“Do we already not have a progressive income tax structure?
He compared apples to oranges……..intentionally.”
***Thats because some people are getting all the oranges while others are stuck with the apples
By your reasoning, the wealthy would have no argument against a 99% marginal tax rate on earnings over $1,000,000 because poor people would have the same highest marginal tax rate as the wealthy.***
md
October 28th, 2011
12:49 pm
“was that top secret or something?”
Not to those that have a clue……for the others, not so much. It’s hiding in the open for them.
larry
October 28th, 2011
12:50 pm
This week, the Economic Policy Institute released a report that said protesters in the movement are “fundamentally right” in saying the economy has “generated increasingly unequal economic outcomes …” The report said the top 1 percent of households had 59.9 percent of all the gains in income from 1979 to 2007. The bottom 90 percent had 8.6 percent of the gains.
Peadawg
October 28th, 2011
12:50 pm
“but I really don’t expect anyone that drives a foreign car and doesn’t understand the effect it has on this country to “get it”.”
Maybe American car manufacturers need to build better vehicles. You ever think about that? There’s a reason why Toyota and Honda are at the top of list as far as best and safest cars out there.
USinUK
October 28th, 2011
12:50 pm
“It’s the economy stupid”
(pssst … don’t anyone show him yesterday’s blogs about GDP growth in Q3 … )
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
12:50 pm
Jeezoo, the Infiniti canard again?
Nice dodge (get it?!)
USinUK
October 28th, 2011
12:51 pm
Peadawg – I thought that US manufacturers led in pick-em-up and work-type trucks … ? (that was a serious question, by the way)
md
October 28th, 2011
12:54 pm
**But we don’t all have equal access to to those different tax structures. What percentage of their annual income can even a middle class indivual hope to make off of capital gains?**
Sure they do, the access is there to all………..did Buffet start out with his billions??
Of course not…….and he was taxed the appropriate amount on his way up the ladder………
“***Thats because some people are getting all the oranges while others are stuck with the apples”
And there are hundreds of variables that make up that equation……income only being one of them.
Paul
October 28th, 2011
12:55 pm
RB from Gwinnett
“That’s NOT the kind of conservative we need.”
So there’s more than one kind of conservative?
Conservative diversity. Who’da’ thunk.
Just what kind of a conservative do we need?
Peadawg
October 28th, 2011
12:55 pm
“I thought that US manufacturers led in pick-em-up and work-type trucks … ?”
I’m not sure. I’m just talking about the overall quality of the vehicle. I’d pick a Toyota Tacoma over a F-150 and day of the week and twice on Sunday.
Mr. Snarky
October 28th, 2011
12:56 pm
Someone needs to get Romney a wind surfboard.
Jefferson
October 28th, 2011
12:56 pm
If the GOP is so great, how the President Obama get elected, I mean did they not do a good job or something?
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
12:57 pm
OK, I’ve got to boogie.
I’ll step away from my PC, made from Taiwanese parts.
Got my jeans on, that were made in Mexico.
I’ll hop into my Japanese made auto and head down the road.
And enjoy my status as a class warfare warrior!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 28th, 2011
12:57 pm
“pssst … don’t anyone show him yesterday’s blogs about GDP growth in Q3 … )”
Evidently somebody doesn’t understand budget deficits, high unemployment and insufficient GDP growth that at the recently reported level won’t get the country back on track.
md
October 28th, 2011
12:57 pm
“Maybe American car manufacturers need to build better vehicles. You ever think about that? There’s a reason why Toyota and Honda are at the top of list as far as best and safest cars out there.”
And I agree……..but that doesn’t change the fact that our own buying habits have shipped the profits off-shore…………and now folks want to bitch about stagnant salaries………..
It’s basic accounting……force prices down, expenses have to be cut or kept in check. It isn’t a magic formula.
HDB
October 28th, 2011
12:58 pm
Peadawg
October 28th, 2011
12:50 pm
You know that Toyota and Honda are the only two independently-owned Japanese auto manufacturers, right!! The remainder are part of global conglomerates:
Mazda/Kia/Hyundai/Volvo/Jaguar/Aston Martin —> FORD
Mitsubishi —> Chrysler
Isuzu/Opel/Vauxhall/Saab —> GM
Nissan —> Renault
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
12:58 pm
It is only class warfare when we fight back.
Wonder why that is?
and
“Not to those that have a clue……for the others, not so much. It’s hiding in the open for them.”
Then comparing them was a problem why?
USinUK
October 28th, 2011
12:58 pm
Peadawg – hey, I’m not a pickemuptruck kinda girl – I’m a compact car, Fiat 500 type, myself … no exactly US car companies’ strong suit
USinUK
October 28th, 2011
12:59 pm
GG – “It is only class warfare when we fight back.
Wonder why that is”
you answered your own question … peacefully accepting the bootheel on the back of your neck isn’t warfare … fighting back is.
BlahBlahBlah
October 28th, 2011
1:00 pm
All the serious candidates are waiting for 2016. Rightfully so.
USinUK
October 28th, 2011
1:00 pm
Blah-cubed … interesting take on things – they’re just blithely accepting an Obama re-election???
Peadawg
October 28th, 2011
1:03 pm
“All the serious candidates are waiting for 2016. Rightfully so.”
I don’t understand why. We need a serious candidate on BOTH sides to step up to the plate.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
1:04 pm
the majority of voters have increasingly become uncomfortable with the title “President” in front of Barack Obama’s name
cite please.
Show Low Here We Come
October 28th, 2011
1:05 pm
jm here in georgia, as a nominal democrat, sitting out maters not a whit. the R nominee will win georgia whether i vote or not. david scott will win reelection, whether i vote or not. earl ehrhart will win reelection, whether i vote or not. i’m open to a lecture as to why voting issss “important”.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
1:05 pm
oh, and Jay, I’m terribly sorry.
I guess a guy who would refer to the first African-American President as “boy” is more of a straight-up racist d-bag. Got my terms wrong. my bad.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 28th, 2011
1:05 pm
I don’t know who will occupy the W.H. in 013 but my prediction is that their first and last initial won’t be B.O.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
1:06 pm
they’re just blithely accepting an Obama re-election???
They’re waiting until they can blithely accept a President Elizabeth Warren, perchance.
md
October 28th, 2011
1:07 pm
Have fun in Am………then you can go out and protest against yourself……….buying all those foreign goods.
Keep it up folks……….they more you buy, the less we make………those other economies are roaring because of you………I’m sure they will send a thank you note.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
1:07 pm
my prediction is that their first and last initial won’t be B.O.
the folks with skin in the game continue to disagree.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743474
philosopher
October 28th, 2011
1:07 pm
Jay-you and Will both are really funny (who’dathunkit??). And my hero Mike said it another way.
http://blogs.ajc.com/mike-luckovich/2011/10/24/1025-mike-luckovich-cartoon-flip-flop/.
USinUK
October 28th, 2011
1:07 pm
Recon – your 1:05 and a quarter won’t even get us a phone call.
no, no … don’t thank me … just puttin’ things in perspective …
Joe COOL
October 28th, 2011
1:10 pm
-Ad for gun training bars Muslims and Obama voters-
A radio ad for a handgun training class that bars Muslims and Obama voters has sparked an investigation in Texas.
“We will attempt to teach you all the necessary information you need to obtain your [Concealed Handgun License],” the ad says. Then towards the end, it adds: “If you are a socialist liberal and/or voted for the current campaigner in chief, please do not take this class. You have already proven that you cannot make a knowledgeable and prudent decision under the law.”
And then: “If you are a non-Christian Arab or Muslim, I will not teach you the class with no shame; I am Crockett Keller, thank you, and God bless America.”
Keller, 65, has said in media interviews that he just regards the message is just common sense. “The fact is, if you are a devout Muslim, then you cannot be a true American,” he told local news station KVUE, while fielding calls congratulating him for his stance. “Why should I arm these people to kill me? That’s suicide.”
It seems unlikely that Keller will back down, though. “I’m not going to do it,” he told the local news. “I will give up my license to teach before I will teach them,” he said, referring to Obama voters and Muslims.
GOTTA LOVE THEM TEXAS…LOL.
Joe COOL
October 28th, 2011
1:10 pm
forgot the link:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/ad-gun-training-bars-muslims-obama-voters-153954962.html
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
1:11 pm
forgot the link:
the “news.yahoo” url never seemed quite so apt before, Mr. Cool.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 28th, 2011
1:12 pm
“Recon – your 1:05 and a quarter won’t even get us a phone call.”
USinUK and I’ll bet it won’t buy you or your fellow Democrats piece of mind either.
Adam
October 28th, 2011
1:15 pm
md: The mere use of class warfare turns me off on him……
md didn’t get the Crossroads GPS memo. You know, the one that says what I have always said: When you use “class warfare” to describe an attack on the rich, NO ONE BUYS IT except the gullible lockstep anti-Obama people.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 28th, 2011
1:18 pm
I am sure if a poster keeps reading from the “buy American” bumper sticker but never identifies how in a global economy where Toyotas and Hondas are partially manufactured here and many goods are assembled from parts from around the world….. how exactly this is put into practice. But it does look nice on the bumper.
Aquagirl
October 28th, 2011
1:18 pm
I guess a guy who would refer to the first African-American President as “boy” is more of a straight-up racist d-bag.
Mad max is klassy with 3 capital K’s.
Gotta love it when they slip like that, and then try to cover their tracks when they realize they’ve announced their racist d-baggery to the world.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 28th, 2011
1:21 pm
About as KKKlassy as those who claim Cain would be the “first Black President”.
Lucifer
October 28th, 2011
1:22 pm
No. 1 truth. The GOP lacks brains. Obama is guaranteed a second term. What a cast of pychotic chuckleheads.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 28th, 2011
1:25 pm
Obama is our first mulatto president. Cain if elected president in 012 would be our first Black president.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
1:30 pm
Obama is our first mulatto president. Cain if elected president in 012 would be our first Black president.
Reminds me about another helpful guide I happened upon awhile back.
mm
October 28th, 2011
1:33 pm
“Yes, George, it has. Because, well … who else ya got?
Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Michele Bachmann? Newt Gingrich? Really? Would you be comfortable sticking the title “President” in front of any of those names? Nah, didn’t think so.”
The fact that any of these clowns get any support in the polls tells you how far off the rails the GOP has gone.
You could add the name “Demented Circus Monkey” to the poll and that would probably draw a percent.
The smug righty voters thinking Obama will lose don’t understand that their elected politicians have p*ssed off:
the poor
firefighters
teachers
policemen
construction workers
the middle class
college students
all minorities
unions
the unemployed
the underemployed
homeowners
scientists
economists
mayors
governors
etc.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 28th, 2011
1:34 pm
On cue, here comes the “classy” race nonsense. Going by the US Census rules, a state definition used prior years, or perhaps the Thomas Jefferson rules of “person who were legally white were less than 25% black”.? Stands has referenced a great guide……
Joe The Plumber too.
October 28th, 2011
1:34 pm
aqua & stands, please tell me how calling obama boy is racist? That one has always confused me.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 28th, 2011
1:35 pm
“Reminds me about another helpful guide I happened upon awhile back.”
Another reminder of how the left prefers fantacy to fact.
mm
October 28th, 2011
1:36 pm
Seems like unemployment would be about zero percent seeing how the tax rates are the lowest they’ve been in 50 years. Isn’t that correct righties?
Welcome to the Occupation (Trotsky)
October 28th, 2011
1:39 pm
mm: “Seems like unemployment would be about zero percent seeing how the tax rates are the lowest they’ve been in 50 years. Isn’t that correct righties?”
If you press the point, they just shift to another one. Which means, it’s all just a front, a sham. The economic policies of the right are meant purely to lend a scientific aura to what is just a fascination with brute power for its own sake. Their Laffable economic theories are just window dressing.
philosopher
October 28th, 2011
1:41 pm
mm- and don’t forget the family members of all of the above….
Gman
October 28th, 2011
1:41 pm
Newt, Mittens, Biachmann, Unable Cain… line them up for a debate against President Obama and they all would cry “No Mas”! These guys (and gals) are nothing more than conservative radio sound bites where no one gets an opportunity to question them. When they are questioned, they fold like a lawn chair beneath a sumo wrestler! Face it, you southern gentlemen will never let Herman “Silas” Cain run the Barkley Ranch!
Talking Head
October 28th, 2011
1:41 pm
Romney is a better talking Charlie Crist, both RINO’s, both windsocks.
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
1:42 pm
Understanding why you don’t call a black man a boy
mm
October 28th, 2011
1:42 pm
Welcome,
“Their Laffable economic theories are just window dressing.”
Yes, for making the rich reicher and the poor poorer. And their simpleton voters can’t see through it.
saywhat?
October 28th, 2011
1:45 pm
Joe The Plumber too.
October 28th, 2011
1:34 pm
“aqua & stands, please tell me how calling obama boy is racist? That one has always confused me.”
If you are so ignorant as to really not know, why should anybody waste any time conversing with you about politics, or anything, besides what you want for lunch?
Soothsayer
October 28th, 2011
1:46 pm
“fold like a lawn chair beneath a sumo wrestler”
What a great word picture!
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
1:47 pm
the repubs want any {white} person besides BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA,LOL!
Funny, part II
October 28th, 2011
1:47 pm
Speaking of pretty d**n funny (scary funny), who can forget —
The Cambridge, Mass., police: “Acted stupidly” and, like law-enforcement officers in general, racially profile
philosopher
October 28th, 2011
1:47 pm
Granny- and many of these folks do not use “boy” as innocently as they like to profess, either.
mm
October 28th, 2011
1:48 pm
And the list of the people Obama has p*ssed off?
REPUBLICANS
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 28th, 2011
1:48 pm
Recon can’t handle the facts…… you do comprehend the “one drop” rule codified by the states right and used in the past?
But yes, we all understand your desire to alienate from all groups and to make the President something “else”….. its all part of the sickening garbage of segments of the Republican Party.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 28th, 2011
1:48 pm
Well enough reading posted ramblings from the bolsheviks. Kind of like reading the comic section but it soon gets boring. Enjoy your afternoon commiserating comrades. out
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
1:49 pm
Plumber Too, all I can say is, whenever I watch the otherwise nearly-perfect movie Casablanca, I still cringe at the point when I know Ilsa is going to say “The boy who is playing the piano, somewhere I have seen him…”
Put another way: Some people’s language skills haven’t evolved since 1942, I guess.
Fast and Furious Spending
October 28th, 2011
1:50 pm
Jay,
Utter nonsense! Any of those you mention above, “Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Michele Bachmann? Newt Gingrich?”, yes, all of them have more government, leadership and/or political experience than Barack Obama–all of them. “Really?” Yes, really.
If you said, “who else ya got”? back in 2007, the answer would have been “Barack Obama? Really?”
The only reason Obama cleared his ridiculously absurd lack of experience with anything was leg tingles and the fact that the bar was set so deliberately low for a “good, articulate and clean” black man that media representation of the Democrat campaign seemed more like a musical comedy. What was it you said, yesterday, you geek? a Parawhat?
The only venue wherein Romney has thrived is the debate, period. He polls well, supposedly, but so did Hillary once upon a time. His negatives are high among conservatives, and still the primaries are two months away. No one, as far as the real deciding, voting public, statistically, pays attention to the talking heads wringing their hands about the GOP. Implicitly calling Cain “outrageous” is itself outrageous, and if National Review wants to be such a force for conservative opinion, it shouldn’t do so much navel gazing and hand wringing. The field is still pretty much open for the taking.
You’ll have to explain yourself with “OutFoxed”. That neologism may beget giggles and stinks to your own like-minded band of merry skunks, but you’re losing readers with this Bookman-club-”progressive-speak”.
Besides, the field of GOP candidates is so large because they sense the blood in the water, as Sullivan and Will (and you) know. Obama is a very very weak candidate and is very likely to lose this next year.
Joe The Plumber too.
October 28th, 2011
1:54 pm
saywhat are you a racist? You can’t call a black man ignorant. Come out from behind your sheet and realize this is the twenty first century and we have evolved. See how foolish that kind of logic is. I love hearing a bunch of white folks explaining what a black man believes. I guess I have been racist a few hundred times on this and tuckers old blog by saying barry was just a boy sitting at a mans desk. Hmmm.. wonder why cindy never called me out on that, must have been because I wasn’t white. Hell, I thought my name was boy until I was a teenager, thats all my dad addressed me as, and he may not have liked me much but I don’t think he was racist against me.
Butch Cassidy
October 28th, 2011
1:54 pm
FFS – ” Obama is a very very weak candidate and is very likely to lose this next year.”
Only if he walks out in the first debate and says: “What’s shakin Crackers?”
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
1:54 pm
@fast and furious
yeah black men have an easier time being elected than white men,lol! NOT
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
1:57 pm
@JOE
YOU arent being racist, just envious of this intelligent black president because u know u could never achieve what hes achieved eventhough u think youre better than him because youre white. must be hard being you!
Joe The Plumber too.
October 28th, 2011
1:58 pm
stands, yeah I guess it’s still 1939, remember in What A Wonderful Life, when the old druggist said to the teenage George Bailey ” boy, take this medicine right away over to….” Oh never mind, they were both white. How foolish this racist garbage has become.
Ross Perot
October 28th, 2011
2:02 pm
I was wondering how long before a fascist lib dropped the race card. Nice work SFD, Stupid F”ing D-bag
Joe The Plumber too.
October 28th, 2011
2:02 pm
libleft, “YOU arent being racist, just envious of this intelligent black president because u know u could never achieve what hes achieved eventhough u think youre better than him because youre white.”
man, wait until my mom finds out, I bet I don’t get invited to anymore family reunions. Bless your heart, you didn’t make very far in school did you? I think they start teaching reading comprehension about third grade. You could use a brush up.
philosopher
October 28th, 2011
2:03 pm
Well, if the best you have to offer is disgusting name-calling, I doubt Jay will miss you…and I know I certainly won’t!
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
2:03 pm
@joethe plumber
playing ignorant is what repubs do best!
Ross Perot
October 28th, 2011
2:04 pm
Somebody whizzed in Decibels cornflakes.. I thought SFD stood for stupid f”ing d-bag
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
2:04 pm
Um, Joe @ 1.58? George Bailey he WAS a boy. Barely teenaged. And the drunken old druggist isn’t exactly behaving well as he’s calling him that, is he.
whereas, Sam was OLDER than Ilsa. And it’s not just that she referred to him as “boy,” it’s the context.
Have you forgotten? This “boy” had accompanied Ilsa and Rick — the love of her life — throughout Paris for days. You know, played piano, sang, poured champagne to “take the sting out of bein’ occupied”?
She THINKS “somewhere” she has seen him?
Yeah, it still makes me cringe.
mm
October 28th, 2011
2:05 pm
Ross,
A wingnut calling a lefty a fascist? Comedy gold.
By the way Jay, my post the other day was cotton candy and kittens compared to this one at 2:02.
OSAMA BIN LADEN
October 28th, 2011
2:05 pm
Enter your comments here
OSAMA BIN LADEN
October 28th, 2011
2:05 pm
I LOVE THE REPUBLICANS
Zedd
October 28th, 2011
2:06 pm
Blog mod gods strike again, a little help Jay?
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
2:07 pm
Boy, that Ross Perot sure got shrill in his dotage. I remember when he was kind of a loveable scamp.
OSAMA BIN LADEN
October 28th, 2011
2:08 pm
ANYONE who says they dont know the connotations of the word “boy” as it relates to black men are lying.
Libertarian
October 28th, 2011
2:09 pm
So is the term “good ole boy” racist when used to describe southern white males? Just trying to learn all of the rules of what is racist and what is not.
Joe The Plumber too.
October 28th, 2011
2:09 pm
Well, I better get back to the grindstone, gotta work my boys…..oops I’m sorry, my employees hard as it’s payday. I hope everyone finds some real problems to solve this fine afternoon besides who gives the best insults. Look forward to the music selections this evening.
Libertarian
October 28th, 2011
2:11 pm
Gee, what a surprise…page 4 of Bookman’s blog comments turns into a race war. Atlanta: the city too busy to hate.
Joe The Plumber too.
October 28th, 2011
2:11 pm
stands, you just said Boy… you weren’t talking to me were you? Just kidding but this foolishness does make me laugh.
OSAMA BIN LADEN
October 28th, 2011
2:12 pm
libertarian
the difference is that it was used as a demeaning term toward black men, but u know this dont you? instead of calling black men “MR.” the white christian racists tried to emaculate black men by calling them “boys” .
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
2:13 pm
Libertarian
October 28th, 2011
2:09 pm
So is the term “good ole boy” racist when used to describe southern white males? Just trying to learn all of the rules of what is racist and what is not.
makes one wonder what he’s been doing for the last 30 years don’t it?
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 28th, 2011
2:16 pm
To borrow a quote: If right wingnut ignorance and stupidity goes up to $5 a barrel, there is gold in these blogs!
Libertarian
October 28th, 2011
2:16 pm
“instead of calling black men “MR.” the white christian racists tried to emaculate black men by calling them “boys” .”
The hypocrisy is laughable.
Turd Burglestein
October 28th, 2011
2:17 pm
Romney is a corporate shill…bought and paid for by wall street.
http://www.newsmax.com/StreetTalk/Romney-Wall-Street-Cash/2011/10/17/id/414666
In other news, Jay Bookman looks like a younger “gayer” Ron White.
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
2:19 pm
libertarian2:16
dont be so hard on yourself
Guy Incognito
October 28th, 2011
2:21 pm
“Jay Bookman looks like a younger “gayer” Ron White”
So you’re saying Jay does stand-up with a Cosmo and a Virgina Slim?
Odis
October 28th, 2011
2:24 pm
Romney = RINO.
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
2:26 pm
The co-chair of Mitt Romney’s Middle East advisory group is tied to a brutal Lebanese militia…
…and Romney has called for people to be fired for far less serious offenses.
Michael
October 28th, 2011
2:26 pm
And really, Romney is not the problem, it is people like George Will. Having to appeal to a fringe element makes for some ugly changing truths.
Fast and Furious Spending
October 28th, 2011
2:27 pm
Libertarian @ 209,
You and I aren’t allowed to comment on, read, understand or even acknowledge that there are rules of political correctness–especially concerning the singular political cudgel Democrats wield exclusively.
The hypocrisy is laughable, but so is the absurd patronage. Obama’s own selected (idiot) Veep thinks Obama is supremely qualified because he is “good, articulate and clean”. The media thought so because it was getting “thrills” up its legs.
Fast and Furious Spending
October 28th, 2011
2:29 pm
Guy,
Jay Bookman may look like that, but his politics isn’t so fashionably metrosexual. He’s like the hippie that won’t put away the bong.
Turd Burglestein
October 28th, 2011
2:29 pm
“instead of calling black men “MR.” the white christian racists tried to emaculate black men by calling them “boys” .”
The hypocrisy is laughable.
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The spelling error is laughable. The correct word would have been “emasculate”. In the future…until your “hooked on phonics” cd’s arrive you should just stick to spewing forth content that would be more understandable to your fellow racists by just saying that “when YT calls a black man boy, he really wants to cut the nuts off of young black men”
And next time you fumble when playing the race card, I’ll be right here to rub your nose in my first name.
F. Sinkwich
October 28th, 2011
2:30 pm
Another city fumigates a park:
“Police in riot gear cleared Occupy San Diego protesters out of Civic Center Plaza early Friday, making some arrests in the process, a police officer said. The operation began about 2 a.m. after officials declared the three-week- old event an unlawful assembly…”
Police in riot gear? Hopefully they wore haz-mat gear as well.
Fast and Furious Spending
October 28th, 2011
2:30 pm
Michael,
I just love liberals telling conservatives what the problem is.
Analysis from the clueless.
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
2:31 pm
@fast
so OBAMA got elected because he was black,huh? i guess all the other presidents didnt get elected gecause they were white, did they? black men got it so easy dont they?
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
2:31 pm
I see the refugees from Cynthia’s joint sho’ nuff miss their hootin’ and hollarin’.
Turd Burglestein
October 28th, 2011
2:34 pm
“Jay Bookman looks like a younger “gayer” Ron White”
So you’re saying Jay does stand-up with a Cosmo and a Virgina Slim?
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I had him pegged more for the appletini kind of guy, but the virginia slim??? DEFINITELY!!!
Pink collar comedy tour rides again…this time it’s bareback!!!
Libertarian
October 28th, 2011
2:36 pm
stands
By not putting “g’s” on the end of “hootin” and “hollarin”, I believe you are being racist
I could be wrong though.
Turd Burglestein
October 28th, 2011
2:37 pm
@turd
oh oh the spelling police has arrived. lol
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No…I’m the phonetics police. I would have given you credit if you had spelled it emaskewlate or emascuelate, but you missed an entire letter and the word doesn’t even sound correct. Sounds like you were ejaculating and humming to yourself at the same time.
Now here’s a tissue…go clean up after yourself.
stands for decibels
October 28th, 2011
2:37 pm
Oh, one other thing. I guess we *weren’t* supposed to be touched when Clarence Thomas, during his confirmation hearings, got a little choked up when recalling an earlier time, and hearing his father referred to as “boy.”
I guess we were supposed to tell that particular whiner to man up and get over it and to stop wasting our time playin’ that race card.
Logical Dude
October 28th, 2011
2:37 pm
It looks like we can’t get to Friday Night Music fast enough!
Or is it now called Friday Travelling Music?
I sometimes can’t keep up!
Fast and Furious Spending
October 28th, 2011
2:38 pm
Jay,
Let’s not forget the other bar that was artificially lowered for the one, the only, Barack Obama. Colin Powell himself said that if Obama could successfully run a presidential campaign he could be considered qualified for President.
A tautology that hasn’t necessarily proved correct with Obama, but it works for me.
1811/0311
October 28th, 2011
2:40 pm
“Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Michele Bachmann? Newt Gingrich? Really? Would you be comfortable sticking the title “President” in front of any of those names? Nah, didn’t think so.”
“Obama” Really? Would you be comfortable sticking the title “President” in front of that name? Nah, didn’t think so.”
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
2:42 pm
the repubs only winnable candidate is ROMNEY, but the PEE PARTY racists hate him!
Logical Dude
October 28th, 2011
2:43 pm
Say it with me 1811:
President Obama
repeat:
President Obama
Yes, he is your president too.
osama
October 28th, 2011
2:43 pm
1811@ 2:40
i hate him too man
Generic Republican
October 28th, 2011
2:44 pm
I’m tanned and rested.
philosopher
October 28th, 2011
2:44 pm
When there’s nothing being said of any substance at all and the only statements made are name-calling, childish,potty talk, time to close this one.
Turd Burglestein
October 28th, 2011
2:45 pm
liberalefty
@turd
obviously it made your day that i misspelled a word!
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Since my comment was directed at someone called libertarian and now somebody named liberalefty is responding back, it’s obvious that someone here is so lame that they feel the need to have multiple aliases on here…probably because they’re lacking in another area.
NOW THAT’S WHAT MAKES MY DAY!!!!
Dagmar Bigtats
October 28th, 2011
2:46 pm
Today’s cons are yesteryear’s witch burner’s and black church bomber’s….
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
2:46 pm
@turd
told u i made your day! lol
Midori
October 28th, 2011
2:47 pm
this ought to make the wingnuts howl!
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/28/us/black-farmers/
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
2:52 pm
Gotta love it.
The xenophobes in the All White Party pretending to take the high road in race relations…
(OK, so I exaggerate! They have a 2% black representation…)
godless heathen
October 28th, 2011
2:55 pm
Midori, Guess you’ll have to revoke my wingnut card, but I am glad that justice was served. I have no doubt that black farmers were given the shaft by Fed bureaucrats.
1811/0311
October 28th, 2011
2:57 pm
HEADLINE: “Beware Arab Spring”
“Analysts say the recent events in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya validate the fear that radical Islamists might rise up and try to hijack the so-called Arab Spring revolutions that began nine months ago.”
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
2:59 pm
Speaking of the howl….
The feds say there’s “ample circumstantial evidence” that the redistricting maps signed by Texas Gov. Rick Perry had the effect and intent of limiting the voting power of Hispanic voters. But what’s the evidence exactly? Let’s take a look.
Intentially and deliberately attacking folks right to vote.
Stevie Ray
October 28th, 2011
2:59 pm
Will and that big brained dude Krauthammer are my favorite rightie columnists. I agree with his assessment regarding Romney but you got to admit, Obama was probably the least qualified candidate in the last 80 years and those of us who were scared by that fact, feel like those who loved him
Will has a terrific take on global warming that is worth checking out…
liberalefty
October 28th, 2011
2:59 pm
1811@ 2:57
yawn,,,,zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
godless heathen
October 28th, 2011
2:59 pm
Sexist joke of the day.
What do you get when you cross PMS with a GPS?
A moody bitch that will find you.
Uniboob
October 28th, 2011
3:02 pm
Scout is afraid of his shadow.
godless heathen
October 28th, 2011
3:02 pm
“Intentially and deliberately attacking folks right to vote.”
So that’s how you describe gerrymandering to gain political advantage? I remember that to be used in future discussions.
That Black guy
October 28th, 2011
3:02 pm
liberalefty, YOU didn’t misspell the word, OBL did.
OSAMA BIN LADEN
October 28th, 2011
2:12 pm
libertarian
the difference is that it was used as a demeaning term toward black men, but u know this dont you? instead of calling black men “MR.” the white christian racists tried to emaculate black men by calling them “boys” .
1811/0311
October 28th, 2011
3:02 pm
“As the Occupy (aka “Occut*rd) Wall Street protests have spread and grown, many critics have pointed to the visible scarcity of blacks and other minorities in the protesters’ ranks.”
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
3:04 pm
Analysts say! OMG!
Granny Godzilla
October 28th, 2011
3:05 pm
Critics! OMG!!
Midori
October 28th, 2011
3:07 pm
Good to hear that Godless.
Very good.
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
3:08 pm
Poor Gomer, obsessed to the point where all he can do is parrot lies about the make up of the protesters.
Must make him feel like a real man…
Some men’s world is only hate and money
Afraid of everything and they laugh at nothing
And they only live to criticize
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbsW-vooxdU
Libertarian
October 28th, 2011
3:13 pm
Turd Burglestein
October 28th, 2011
2:45 pm
Actually Turd…your comment was wrongly directed at me. I simply quoted another person and then I called him a hypocrite. I believe it was OSAMA BIN LADEN at 2:12 pm. Hence my use of quotes.
Rich
October 28th, 2011
3:20 pm
Joe the Plumber. I don’t believe you are African-American. You are a fake. You claim to not know how offensive it is to call a black man “boy.” If you are black, that is painfully and indelibly embedded in your pain cells. You wouldn’t even broach the subject. Hey, Joe Plumber, are you sensitive to being call a N——-? Don’t know why this is offensive to black folks, either? Ah nuts, why waste any more time on you… And Granny, nice clip.
Midori
October 28th, 2011
3:28 pm
REPORT: House GOP’s ‘Job Creating’ Spending Cuts Destroyed 370,000 Jobs
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/10/27/355181/report-house-gops-budget-cuts-370k-jobs/
Ayn Rand's Medicare
October 28th, 2011
3:32 pm
“This is an entertainment company based around a religious identity politics and masquerading as a political party”
Be proud cons. This is what you’ve become.
The World laughs at you
Yall could f* up an anvil.
Your Daily Ayn Rand Horoscope
October 28th, 2011
3:33 pm
Today’s Horoscope:
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, whiner.
Adam
October 28th, 2011
3:34 pm
Midori: Did you see the Politifact “ruling” on Republicans sponsoring zero jobs bills?
kayaker 71
October 28th, 2011
3:35 pm
Wonder how many of the stalwart, law abiding, clean cut Wall Street protestors were complaining about those evil Wall Street bankers when their stocks were making them thousands of dollars per year and their 401K plans were doubling in value. Didn’t see too much liberal protesting then. Rush had an interesting observation today. Every wondered what the salary of the lowest grossing person in the top 10% of the population totals? Seems that it is just over 50K/yr. At that rate, most every poster on this blog probably makes enough to qualify for being one of the “evil” rich. I’m sure Bookman would qualify.
Mighty Righty
October 28th, 2011
3:36 pm
There is no conflict between the two statements made by Romney. In the June statement he says he’s not an expert but believe the earth is getting warmer. He says he thinks people contribute to the warmer but doesn’t know how much. He says he thinks we should reduce emissions of green house gasses. In the second statement he says we don’t know what is causing climaate change. Then he says we souldn’t spend trillions of dollars controlling C02. Then he says EPA and Obama are anti fossil fuels and wants to increases the price to run them out of business. I would like to know what in those two paragraphs disaree with each other or for that matter conflict with the general view of most people.
Adam
October 28th, 2011
3:37 pm
kayaker: Rush had an interesting observation today.
Suuuuuuuure he did.
10% is not 1%, dude. And if that’s true then 90% of people are making less than 50K, and you’re STILL acting like poor people should pay MORE in taxes?
Adam
October 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
Mighty Righty: So because Romney is pretending not to understand that we classify CO2 as a greenhouse gas, he didn’t make a conflicting statement?
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
Leave it to the freeloading HeadRush to come up with an “explanation” like that…
RON PAUL 2012
October 28th, 2011
3:39 pm
Enter your comments here
Midori
October 28th, 2011
3:40 pm
no Adam — do you have a link please?
kayaker 71
October 28th, 2011
3:42 pm
Just looked it up and found out that Rush is wrong. The top 10% averaged $113,000/yr, not a little over 50K. And the top 10% paid about 70% of all federal income taxes in 2010. Sorry ’bout that.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
3:48 pm
1811 — “As the Occupy (aka “Occut*rd) Wall Street protests have spread and grown, many critics have pointed to the visible scarcity of blacks and other minorities in the protesters’ ranks.”
I guess you must have missed the interview with the African-American USMC veteran and Occupier last night on Keith Olbermann’s show.
You might have also missed the news that the Marine vet who received a skull fracture there was an IT networking professional, well-liked by his co-workers and considered a polite and quiet man. Guess that torpedoes the notion of the protestors as being jobless, unwashed hippies, huh?
BTW, I have not forgotten you and our discussion last week. I am locating additional reading material and giving the items you posted a complete and fair reading and *re* reading.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
3:51 pm
K71 — “Wonder how many of the stalwart, law abiding, clean cut Wall Street protestors were complaining about those evil Wall Street bankers when their stocks were making them thousands of dollars per year and their 401K plans were doubling in value. Didn’t see too much liberal protesting then.”
You also didn’t see many people griping about Bernie Madoff’s business practices until AFTER his act blew up. did you?
Doesn’t mean he was operating ethically, legally or properly when everyone was cheering him on, though.
Joe The Plumber too.
October 28th, 2011
4:04 pm
hey rich, I don’t much care what you think little fellow, Yes, I take offense to the N word, stupid question but considering the source. As far as african american, sorry little guy, I’m American. If you have to put a hyphen in there, then I am East Point-American. I don’t spend my days trying to keep up the black/white BS that has gone on too long. I’ll tell you what is embedded in my pain cells, it is kooks like you running around trying to keep racism fired up over stupid words and phrases. I’m sure you are all for reperations also, seeing how you’ve been held down so bad because of your color. Quit crying and make something of yourself, it ain’t up to anybody but you and it’s nobodys fault but your own if you let generations old garbage dictate your life.
TGT
October 28th, 2011
4:07 pm
Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Michele Bachmann? Newt Gingrich? Really? Would you be comfortable sticking the title “President” in front of any of those names? Nah, didn’t think so.
This from the party that elected the man with the thinnest resume in presidential history, and has completely lived up to his “community organizer” status, becoming one of the most inept men to ever occupy 1600 Penn. Av.
I can just about guarantee that more Americans will be more “comfortable” with President Cain, Perry, etc. than with four more years of the Occupier/Organizer-in-Chief.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
4:19 pm
TGT — “I can just about guarantee that more Americans will be more “comfortable” with President Cain, Perry, etc. than with four more years of the Occupier/Organizer-in-Chief.”
It makes me smile when I see that Republicans can’t get it together behind any of their candidates.
TGT
October 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Joe: Yeah, we did so poorly the last time out.
TGT
October 28th, 2011
4:22 pm
Were you smiling then?
Adam
October 28th, 2011
4:23 pm
Midori: I’d rather not. People here might think they can actually use it to make a legitimate argument.
Basically the ruling was “Pants on Fire” because somehow what constitutes a “jobs creation bill” is up for “significant debate.” After reading it I came away realizing what had happened was basically:
A) Democrats think government can create jobs by spending money and creating jobs directly
B) Republicans think government cannot create jobs by spending money directly and the only way to create jobs is through reducing taxes and regulations
C) We have decided arbitrarily and with no factual basis that B is correct, THEREFORE
D) Anyone who thinks A gets “Pants on Fire.”
Adam
October 28th, 2011
4:24 pm
Ok kayaker, if you have the data for 2010 taxes, tell me how many paid zero or less net liability in 2010. In 2009 it was 47%, what about in 2010?
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
4:26 pm
Joe: Yeah, we did so poorly the last time out.
But pay no attention to the dual horrific slaughters, including a still jawdropping 36 – 0 whitewashing, immediately preceding that, right?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
4:31 pm
TGT — “Joe: Yeah, we did so poorly the last time out. Were you smiling then?”
I sure was. Sarah Palin looked like someone forced her to suck on a lemon that night in 2008.
Tom Middleton
October 28th, 2011
4:31 pm
Well, when a party purges itself of all its moderates and libs, it loses its balance; and when that happens, of course, it becomes very easy for the back-ward inmates to take over and fail.
All that the Dems have to do now is stay centered and keep going to win the future, for theirs is the only party left that can govern in the real world and for us all.
Republicans lost that ability well back in the Bush years when they ceased to even try, and now they have none to blame for it but themselves.
Poor Romney. How must it feel to be smarter than your rhetoric, yet can’t tell the truth or be purged yourself. Maybe like Governor Christie, he should have decided to wait, for at what point are we to trust him to mean what he says!
Kamchak
October 28th, 2011
4:32 pm
…but you got to admit…
No, I really don’t “got to”.
TGT
October 28th, 2011
4:36 pm
Actually “immediately preceding that” were gubernatorial victories in Virginia and that bastion of conservatism New Jersey; along with the GOP win in the race for the seat of the “Lion of the Senate.” So, what was that about “whitewashing?”
AmVet
October 28th, 2011
4:46 pm
Hello?
Is anyone home?
Your selective memory aside, Google the 2006 AND 2008 elections.
In both cases the GOP got decimated, destroyed, humiliated and annihilated, pretty much from coast to coast.
(But I can understand why you don’t want to remember!)
bman
October 28th, 2011
4:54 pm
George Will …smart guy. He’s also a bit more in-tune with the candidates, politicans, policies etc….the average voter doesn’t dig quite as deep into the details. of candidates, or their views. If they did, Obama would be sitting in Chicago.
Obama is polling really low. Depending on the economy, that MIGHT change.
Of course, we did have that explosive (and “fair” comparison to Bush) 2.5% growth report.
Obama Supporter to the end
October 28th, 2011
5:06 pm
Mitt flips again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again on everything!
Today he said global warming was man made. Yesterday he said we don’t know.
Makes my head daeh spin!
Kamchak
October 28th, 2011
5:21 pm
George Will …smart guy.
This is the same George Will that prepped Reagan with a stolen copy of President Carter’s debate briefing book.
This is the same George Will that came home one day to find all his belongings thrown outside of his Chevy Chase Md. home along with a sign that said. “Take it somewhere else, buster.” Seems his wife would rather raise their down syndrome child on her own, rather than dealing with a cheater.
A real
peachdouchebag of a guy.Tom Middleton
October 28th, 2011
5:27 pm
Didn’t hear bout that one, Kam. He was a cheater?
bman
October 28th, 2011
5:27 pm
Kamchak …. without knowing it, you just proved my point.
Kamchak
October 28th, 2011
5:34 pm
Kamchak …. without knowing it, you just proved my point.
Not real surprised that in your world smart=douchebag.
But I can act shocked and awed if it will make you feel any better.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
5:36 pm
Kamchak, can you post a cite on the G. Will = cheater thing? I had never heard that.
Rich
October 28th, 2011
5:40 pm
Joe the Plumber: What color is the sky in your world?
bman
October 28th, 2011
5:40 pm
Kamchak … No need to get nasty. George Will is smart. Newt Gingrich is smart. Bill Clinton is smart.
Success in popularity and $$ seems to do something to people…not sure how/why. Intelligent people CAN make bad decisions.
For example …you’re probably an intelligent guy, but you’ll still vote for Obama.
Kamchak
October 28th, 2011
5:49 pm
For example …you’re probably an intelligent guy, but you’ll still vote for Obama.
I didn’t support him last time.
What makes you think I will do so now?
bman
October 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
Kamchak …ok, I’ll play. Will you support Obama? If so, why?
Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
5:52 pm
bman — “Newt Gingrich is smart.”
Smart perhaps, but venal and dishonest IMO.
I’ve voted for Newt in the past (when I was living in his district), but I regret having done so. OTOH, I didn’t vote for President Clinton either time, but in retrospect, I wish I had.
Nicole Stone
October 28th, 2011
6:00 pm
Cain is the one topping most of the polls, not Romney..
Cain’s already proven the old rules don’t apply, and he’s won the people of South Carolina as well. Everyone who won the people of South Carolina, won the GOP candidacy.
Kamchak
October 28th, 2011
6:01 pm
Joe Mama
From the scorn with which he attacks the “vulgarian” Clintons and their “pantomime of domesticity,” one might assume that Will’s personal life has been entirely dignified and free from scandal. One might be surprised to read, in other words, that in the 1980s, while still married to his first wife, Will was romantically linked to Lally Weymouth, daughter of Washington Post owner Katharine Graham, according to Washingtonian magazine (1/87). When Will moved out on his wife and children, he found his office furniture dumped on his front lawn with a note reading, “Take it somewhere else, buster” (Salon, 2/12/98). Though the lamentable lack of shame in U.S. society is a common theme in Will’s writing, shame, like other principles he touts, seems to be for other people.
Kamchak
October 28th, 2011
6:05 pm
Will you support Obama?
I honestly do not know.
bman
October 28th, 2011
6:06 pm
Joe .. I voted for Clinton in ‘96. My choice was Hillary in 2008.
Nicole … Cain is doing well right now. He’s a radio talk show host, and he’s pretty good at mixing it up. Bachman has been the flavor of the month, Rick Perry, Donald Trump etc….Romney is the one who has stayed steady.
If Jim Carville were to announce a challenge to Obama as a democrat, I would wager he would be popular, too. At least for a little while…
Kamchak
October 28th, 2011
6:12 pm
Romney is the one who has stayed steady.
A steady 23%.
But that will not win the nomination.
Evangelicals will not support Romney.
I look for a surge in the polls by Perry.
He is the only one that will pass their purity test.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 28th, 2011
6:17 pm
Especially if Perry does not debate and only speaks his stump speeches, glad hands and does ad in which he gets to look perty…
bman
October 28th, 2011
6:21 pm
Kamchak …i hope not lol….I don’t know one person who likes Perry. Oh, lots of people liked him when he announced his run. But now? I think he is done.
The religious right and the looney left. But, I really believe the moderates will decide the outcome of this election.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
6:25 pm
Thanks very much for that, Kamchak. I hope that reading it during supper doesn’t make me woof up my meatloaf and taters.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
6:32 pm
bman — “Joe .. I voted for Clinton in ‘96. My choice was Hillary in 2008. ”
I’m a source of frustration for the conservatives on this blog, as I’m a white, Southern-raised gun-owning disabled veteran who votes Democratic. But more to their dismay, I’ve been voting Republican since *Reagan* but switched in 2004 and haven’t looked back.
bman
October 28th, 2011
6:39 pm
Joe lol
if Obama does win another term, I’m okay with that as long as republicans and moderate democrats control the senate and house. I prefer that balance of power…
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Joe Hussein Mama
October 28th, 2011
6:43 pm
bman — I don’t know if I could handle that kind of Congressional setup. We need some bold action, and I’m not sure if the jokers we have in Congress are up to it (without putting a lot of political frosting on whatever legislation they propose).
Kamchak — Ew. This Lally Weymouth woman must have had a cardboard fetish if she was trying to pry George Effing Will away from his wife. I’m not a chick, but I can’t imagine what sleeping with that man must have been like. Maybe like trying to get it on with one of those mannequins from the Old Navy commercials.
Kamchak
October 28th, 2011
6:55 pm
But, I really believe the moderates will decide the outcome of this election.
Possibly so, but the moderates will not decide who wins the Republican primary.
Adam
October 28th, 2011
8:57 pm
I’ll bite:
If you nominate Huntsman, I will consider voting for the GOP candidate. Otherwise you can forget it. The rest of them are either insane or opportunist. Voting for GOP right now is voting for the crazies, and I, like Chris Christie, am tired of dealing with the crazies.
TGT
October 28th, 2011
11:50 pm
This is the same George Will that prepped Reagan with a stolen copy of President Carter’s debate briefing book.
Another favorite liberal myth. Carter accused Will of stealing the book. Will denied it in an op-ed. Carter then retracted his accusations and apologized to Will.
Is anyone home?
You’re the one who used the “immediately preceding” language. Just helping you get your sequence of events straight.
Google the 2006 AND 2008 elections…
Yeah, and it took the Occupier in Chief less than two years to, not only lose those gains, but to do so and then some–in historic fashion. And the Dems are still reeling. Flock on lemmings!
Paddy O
October 29th, 2011
12:06 am
Jay – the two quotes you reference are mutually exclusive. Romney is starting to sound a lot like John Kerry. However, regarding the word President in front of his name – Cain, Gingrich & Romney, plus Perry, already have MORE executive experience than the guy currently sitting in the Oval Office. Obama knew very little about foreign policy, yet I don’t remember the liberal leaning press being too worried about it. I’d be more comfortable with any of those 4 than another 4 years of Obama.
Paddy O
October 29th, 2011
12:08 am
How does the Secretary of Homeland Security, upon learning that a gun released by fast & furious NEVER contact the attorney general? Apathy about one of her minions getting slain? Or just typical Obama administration ineptitude?
Paddy O
October 29th, 2011
12:08 am
I am starting to suspect the Gingrich will mount a come back.
Adam
October 29th, 2011
9:36 am
Looks like I need to be kind and charitable and order some plush Reagan dolls for a few people. And tissues. Lots of tissues.
captguitarman
October 29th, 2011
12:50 pm
To get this out of the way first, had there not been a lead in that Sullivan’s thoughts were about Cain (and had Cain’s name not appeared in Sullivan’s piece), I would have immediately concluded that it was about Obama. Replace “conservative” with “liberal” and “Limbaugh, Hannity et al.” with “Maher Krugman, et al.” and there you have it. It is interesting (and sad) that if you really clear your mind and think about it, Sullivan’s observations could accurately apply to both of them — which leads to the unfortunate and sad conclusion that what Obama did in his political sphere, and now what Cain is doing in his, is what it really takes to be elected Presdient in America these days.
And yes, here we are with Romney — not even close to the ideal of the traditional conservative base, which has been both energized and poisoned both at once by the tea party-libertarian elelements. And, clearly intellectually “flexible.” That, however, is not unique, but getting caught in flip after flip and flop after flop is. Clinton was smart enough to run as a liberal and then govern from the center right (with the nudging of a Republican Congress. Obama ran as the next coming of a New Deal liberal, but he has been in over his head since the day he was elected, and without a core intellectual conviction and governing strategy, just basically decided to emulate Bush in more ways than the Dem/Libs like to think about. But, Romney just keeps on stepping on his own tail — leaving us traditional Pub/Cons with with this traveling circus of unelectable clowns.
But bacause Romney is actually an electable Pub, if not traditional Con, and is not a polarizing tea party loving libertarian with a good chance of beating Obama, it is no accident that you, and every other Dem/Lib pundit and commentator, and media type are working over time to denigrate Romney as much as possible. If Perry or Cain or Newt or someone like that is nominated, Obama and the Dem/Libs can breathe a big sigh of relief and move on into the second term, having missed a bullet that I once personally thought was impossible to avoid (until this ridiculous – let’s eat as many of our own as possible before the primairies – Republican debate circus began).
liberalefty
October 29th, 2011
2:40 pm
PADDY 12:08
dont worry OBAMA’s administration will never be as inept as BUSH’S was. his ineptness led us to 9/11!
Barbara
October 29th, 2011
10:55 pm
Just read about your blog in a column by Cynthia Tucker. She’s right. You are good!!!
Paddy O
October 29th, 2011
11:19 pm
liberallefty – you need to be taken to the wood shed, particularly with your man Obama, 3 years in, still harping about the impact Bush made (even Bush had a democratic Congress his last 2 years). 9/11 can be squarely laid ON BILL CLINTONS lap. Bush had been in office 9 months. Clinton’s pathetic response to the 93 bombing of the WTC, the bombing of 2 embassies (remember Tomahawk into the terrorist training ground Clinton?), emboldened the terrorists to try the jet liner thing. Sadly, what was inept then is STILL inept – our immigration/visa tracking system. Homeland Security has gotten lucky twice already – with guys who got bombs ONTO the plane, but the bomb failed to blow. We need to severely curtail VISA to those nations who support terrorism, or who we are at war with. We also need to establish an Ellis Island for Latinos in El Paso. Try looking up job generation. Obama, who may be suffering from two other actions by Clinton – signing NAFTA & giving China permanent MFN status – has steered the economy out of the ditch & into the grand canyon. Bush did a lot of un-American stuff – Patriot Act, pushing pre-emptive war; but, compared to Obama he comes across as Eisenhower. Obama likes the perks of being President. He does NOT like the work it requires.
Mr. Right
October 30th, 2011
5:06 pm
Herman Cain? Rick Perry? Michele Bachmann? Newt Gingrich? Really? Would you be comfortable sticking the title “President” in front of any of those names? Nah, didn’t think so.
I was never comfortable sticking the title ‘President” in front of Obama and boy, was I ever so right!
Joe
October 30th, 2011
5:44 pm
Mr. Right
You are wrong. President Obama has been spot on as Commander in Chief, nothing short of extremely effective on the “War on Terrorism”, started by Republicans. We also have a strong auto industry because of him. He saved our banks, and he is not yet done with his work. If you didn’t care for the passage of the health care bill, well, 99% of the plan doesn’t kick in until 2014. But really understand his, that health care bill fixed a lot of ills, none of which the Republicans give a damn about. Your party is filled with a bunch of hypocrites. There is nothing they wouldn’t do to interfere with Terry Schivo’s final days of health care, for political purposes, but they will let roughly 50,000 people die each year because they were denied access to health care insurance (AT ANY PRICE). Your party either believes in right to life, or it doesn’t.
Laffer
October 30th, 2011
7:36 pm
attracted to moderates? What a joke. You are a far left loon. Write about the OWS crowd lately?
independent thinker
October 31st, 2011
7:17 am
Herman Cain as the spokesperson for the Clarence Thomas wing of the GOP will be the front runner and he will end all rights of employees to claim sexual harrassment- It is a new day in America!
Corey
October 31st, 2011
8:44 am
F. Sinkwich’s retort is a glaring example of what Mr. Sullivan meant.
“If becoming a black woman would mean getting elected Romney would get a sex cahnge and name himself Latisha”, Bill Mauer