A nation turns its lonely eyes to … Newt?

Mitt Romney continues to pull the same 25 to 30 percent of the GOP base that he’s had all along. The remainder of his party, reluctant to settle for the man from Massachusetts, continues to look around for a champion who can rescue them from his clutches.

For the moment, that champion happens to be Herman Cain, but it’s impossible to believe that can last. Critical as I’ve been of them, I still have more faith in the GOP electorate than to believe they’re serious about making Cain their nominee. But having run through Bachmann and Perry, where else can they turn?

gingrich_campaign_finance_team_quits-457x307-1

'Say, um, are you free tonight?'

Well, there’s that portly gentleman with the gray hair over there, the one tugging on his ear and, frankly, trying to look disinterested. The name is Newt Gingrich, I believe.

Listening to Newt these days, it’s pretty clear that he thinks the race may finally be turning in his direction. He looks at Romney and sees a man with a “Nelson Rockefeller problem,” as Gingrich calls it, noting that “there is a natural ceiling” for such candidates in the Republican Party.

(Nelson Rockefeller, for those too young to know, was a moderate Republican and a successful governor of New York who in 1960, 1964 and 1968 lost the GOP nomination to more conservative opponents. Think of him as the original RINO.)

Gingrich also looks around at his fellow candidates and sees rank amateurs, all of whom have had their shot at being the anti-Mitt and have fallen short. Other than Romney, Gingrich is the only major player on the debate stage who actually knows public policy, and it shows.

“At some point I think it’s going to come down to Romney and me,” Gingrich said this week. “Once we get down to a two-person debate, then I’m reasonably confident I will win.”

The former speaker is also positioning himself as the sole grownup in the party, the only one with the self-control needed to be successful next summer and fall. Watching Romney and Rick Perry squabble at the last debate, Gingrich said, made him feel like “I was the recess monitor on the playground, watching these two kids.” He even talks in regretful tones about the decline of mutual respect in politics, noting that “policy dialogue, handled with civility, is exactly what politics should be.”

Of course, it’s impossible to hear pleas for civil dialogue from a man with Newt’s history without giggling a bit. And in his heart he really hasn’t changed much, as evidenced by his recent suggestion that U.S. Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd ought to be tossed into prison. Earlier this year, Gingrich also accused  House Republicans of trying to impose “radical … right-wing social engineering” and claimed that President Obama is governed by a “Kenyan, anti-colonialist” mindset. The hyena hasn’t changed his spots, and everyone knows it.

And that’s just the problem. Anybody else with Gingrich’s resume, knowledge and rhetorical skills would indeed be well positioned to become Romney’s main challenger at this point. But Gingrich isn’t just anybody else. He travels with more baggage than a 100-piece marching band.

'All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up."

"You see, this is my life! It always will be! Nothing else! Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark!... All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up."

To today’s voters, he also comes across as a politician from another century, when men named Clinton and Reagan and Dole walked the corridors of Washington. And he doesn’t seem to get that. In fact, if Romney gives off echoes of Nelson Rockefeller, Gingrich has at least a touch of Norma Desmond about him. Like that once-famous actress in the classic “Sunset Boulevard,” he’s ready for his closeup and certain that he’s going to be just as big as he ever was.

– Jay Bookman

539 comments Add your comment

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
6:02 pm

Newt is OK but I’m hoping Perry rebounds to battle Cain — either one of those candidates is fine with me.

Romney is the lib ilk’s choice. Therefore he is unacceptable.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 26th, 2011
6:03 pm

Well, that does it! I’m hidin’ the missus! I like old Newt, but if he wins the White House that bed’s going to be used more than one in a Holiday Inn. And it’ll cost us a fortune to keep replacing springs. I bet Newt comes pretty close to 300 about now.

Oh, and I won’t be tuning in to anymore debates. I don’t need the missus to be getting any ideas.

Have a good night everybody.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
6:03 pm

He travels with more baggage than a 100-piece marching band.

Heh, heh, heh…..clever.

jm

October 26th, 2011
6:04 pm

Well Jay primed the pump for jokes on this one.

Meh. The super committee is going down the drain, and if so, our debt will, and the country, and the people. So sad.

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
6:06 pm

A record! Ilk in one post! Pass the cookies!

getalife

October 26th, 2011
6:08 pm

As predicted.

They are running out of cons and don’t give Ron Paul a chance.

martin the calvinist

October 26th, 2011
6:08 pm

Newt is the most knowledgable candidate out there, but he is tragically flawed. I don’t want him to win the Republican nomination. I also don’t want Romney to win either, he’s a white Obama in my humble opinion.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
6:10 pm

I am sure there is a mailclerk at the RNC that has good hair and can be put up on stage for a chance.

Paul

October 26th, 2011
6:10 pm

Gingrich doesn’t see what everyone except those around him sees. The same happened with Perry and his advisors. People may be interested in his ideas, but that’s a far cry from being willing to put him in the White House.

So Romney has a “Nelson Rockefeller problem?”

If Rockefeller were alive today, this is what he’d say to Newt:

http://tinyurl.com/4ya9xx7

getalife

October 26th, 2011
6:10 pm

“lib ilk”.

Harry Con ilk.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:11 pm

Just what we need, a pompous, half-illiterate, self-serving, pompous, hypocritical, hysterical, Republican Carpetbagging, snake-oil salesman…L-rd, G-d, what have we done to deserve this?

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
6:11 pm

Sinkwich’s picture is on the ilk carton

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
6:12 pm

The self-destructive impulses of the true believers on the Republican right are truly unbelievable. Obama would be vulernable to almost any breathing Republican, except for the guys who are actually running; and Sarah Palin, who is most definitely damaged goods in the eyes of the independent electorate.

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
6:13 pm

Hey: jonix! Quick question: which one of the Repubs were you refering to? The description’s kinda general.

Aquagirl

October 26th, 2011
6:15 pm

Ilk in one post! Pass the cookies!

Will you settle for ilk chow?

getalife

October 26th, 2011
6:15 pm

The fact of the matter is we are out of leaders after Clinton and Obama are gone.

Joe Biden?

Newt Gingrich?

See?

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
6:16 pm

Every lib ilk on this blog, I’m willing to say, thinks Romney is the most “acceptable” republican candidate.

Why is that?

Because he’s McCain with better hair.

Romney is a RINO and the lib ilk knows it.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:17 pm

Mr B…
Shalom

Newt, of course, but that summation could fit just about any of them from Uncle Sam’s Oldest Colony (and before any of y’all want to snit there, that’s Alan Tate’s summation…a liberal’s liberal, he :-) )

Jay

October 26th, 2011
6:17 pm

And Sink, that RINO ilk is going to be the nominee.

Also, Keep? I think they already found him:

http://bit.ly/uK9tTS

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
6:18 pm

Someone throw witchy-poo an ilk bone.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:18 pm

Aquagirl…

What can you do with leftover ilk? :-)

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:21 pm

IMAM

If the GOP wants the chance of a prayer in h3ll of “taking back ‘their’ country” starting with 1600, he’ll be the nominee…and it galls the sh*t out of the lunatic fringe…

martin the calvinist

October 26th, 2011
6:22 pm

here’s why I won’t say “God bless the 99%.” These folks don’t have a clue! Watch the entire clip.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv6um6wF2O8

Aquagirl

October 26th, 2011
6:23 pm

Romney is a RINO and the lib ilk knows it.

Well, that, and the fact he’s not bat$#!^ crazy.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
6:23 pm

What can you do with leftover ilk?

Ilk jerky, ilk sausage, ilk chili, ilk en cocotte, ilk au vin….

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
6:23 pm

“Mitt Romney clarified on a visit to Fairfax County, Va., that he does indeed support a restrictive Ohio labor law that he avoided commenting on this week. “I’m sorry if I created any confusion in that regard,” Romney said”

RINO.

martin the calvinist

October 26th, 2011
6:23 pm

md

October 26th, 2011
6:24 pm

I think he is right in regard to Romney. 75% of R’s are polling away from romney……that can’t be good news for him.

It is the base that for the most part elects the candidate……..while the moderates (and I’s) wait in the wings for the general.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
6:25 pm

At least Newt won’t SOUND crazy in his voice, even if he says crazy stuff. And people will actually BELIEVE him if he wins the nomination and then moves to the center.

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2011
6:26 pm

You Republicans cannot really be serious. Obama scored some serious points with his comments about voting the GOP candidates off the island and that is not a good thing, in case you Republicans have not figured that out yet. He was talking about Gilligan’s Island, dontcha know. :lol:

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
6:27 pm

And Newt like that otherwise very respected movie, is insufferable. (I’ve tried to watch it twice in the past year. (BTW, Jay, the title is Sunset Boulevard.)

But the best part is his ludicrous lamenting of the loss of civility in Washington.

It strikes me as akin to Adolph Hitler lamenting the loss of Jews in 1940s Germany…

Jay

October 26th, 2011
6:27 pm

I agree, md, but who’s the candidate who can reap that crop? I see none.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
6:28 pm

md: From upstairs: For Ms warren seems to imply that he is not………

This is what I mean by semantics as argument. She isn’t the same nefarious politician type that chooses words carefully and tried to make people believe that she means YOU pay taxes and this rich guy DOESN’T. In fact, ask anyone who heard her speech and agreed with it if they think she implied that.

Aquagirl

October 26th, 2011
6:29 pm

What can you do with leftover ilk?

It depends…are we talking about African or European ilk?

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:29 pm

K’chak

Ilk au vin? Sounds good…red or white? :-)

Aquagirl and Adam…

And that’s sad…

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
6:29 pm

Take comfort, Sink. The GOP is far too self-destructive to actually nominate Mittens.

Welcome to the occupation (Trotsky)

October 26th, 2011
6:29 pm

This Gingrich charlatan is now participating in Bill Kristol’s pathetic attempt to smear Occupy Wall Street as antisemitic.

New will come to grief once again with these latest efforst. And when he does, all good people in the world will have a warm spot in their tummies.

Jay

October 26th, 2011
6:29 pm

Yikes! Thanks Amvet, fixed it!

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
6:29 pm

Is African ilk anything like African swallows?

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!

October 26th, 2011
6:30 pm

Why is it IMPOSSIBLE Cain can win?

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:30 pm

Aquagirl..

North American ilk?

Gordon

October 26th, 2011
6:30 pm

When you have a president that you think is as bad as most conservatives think Obama is, you can’t afford to take a chance on a risky candidate. The 1996 election was a good example. I didn’t particularly like Clinton, but I didn’t think it would be a disaster if he won (and it was far from it). So it would have been okay to get someone besides a “safe” candidate. But this year, Romney is the safe choice and has the best chance to beat Obama, so that’s who I hope wins. And I think there will be some on the left who hope the same thing whether they admit it or not. I can tell you there won’t be anyone on the right who secretly hopes Obama wins if Romney is the nominee. Well, except maybe Rush Limbaugh.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
6:31 pm

josef: Aquagirl and Adam…

And that’s sad…

Huh?

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
6:32 pm

“And Sink, that RINO ilk is going to be the nominee.”

If that happens, Jay, Hopey/Changey gets a second term and America is sooooooooooo screwed.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
6:33 pm

Jay, if Marco Polo’s cuban exile lies are any indication, he’ll flame out faster than Perry. But you’re right, someone will try to put him up on that stage.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:33 pm

Trotsky

There’s more than a little anti Semitism in OWS just as there’s more than a little racism in the Tea Party…not the mainstream by a long shot, but it’s there and, just like the Tea Partiers, it has gained a forum and the mainstream of the movements are making excuses rather than dealing with it head on…imo

Adam

October 26th, 2011
6:34 pm

Sinkwich: I know it’s hard to swallow, but the fact that you were itching for ANYONE but Romney, and couldn’t get Christie into the fold, means that you have already lost. There is no strong Republican candidate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to foreign policy. Anyone think that the Republicans can do a better job at protecting us from terrorists right now? Hmm?

md

October 26th, 2011
6:34 pm

“I agree, md, but who’s the candidate who can reap that crop? I see none.”

I “see” a bunch of them……don’t care for too many, but they all have a shot at this point. That 75% is flitting around trying to pin-point a favorite, but none of them is jumping to Romney. That may change after the first couple of primaries…….folks do have a tendency to “jump on the bandwagon”. That is where I see Romney winning or losing…………

I suspect it may come down to 2 wonderful choices once again. (sarc)

Normal

October 26th, 2011
6:34 pm

Sister Sarah and I hunted African Ilk in the tundra one time…and she shot Newt in the …ask me no questions…, I’ll tell you no lies…

Paul

October 26th, 2011
6:34 pm

F. Sinkwich

“RINO.’

You may want to think about how it’s all fun and exciting for the Republican base to get all charged up and have rallies and wave flags and shout slogans and dream of a country with ever-wealthier billionaires, but when it’s time to pick a nominee it’s time to get serious with what the majority of the country will support.

Just think about all those polls that show about three quarters of the voters saying they’re conservative, but most Republican candidates lose or barely come close to Pres Obama.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
6:34 pm

josef

Red, naturellement.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:34 pm

ADAM
Y’all’s summations of Newt…true what you say, and that’s sad…

Gordon

October 26th, 2011
6:35 pm

mmmm@6:30,

Because he just can’t stop saying stupid things. Also, his 999 plan doesn’t raise enough revenue and raises taxes on the majority of Americans. You shouldn’t like it if you are a liberal and you shouldn’t like it if you are a conservative.

JohnnyReb

October 26th, 2011
6:35 pm

josef – thanks for the overly kind comments downstairs.

It appears if Newt is the nominee you may have as hard a time with it as will Jay.

Have to run. The wife/boss is home. If I’m a good boy, she cooks dinner.

Normal

October 26th, 2011
6:35 pm

“There’s more than a little anti Semitism in OWS just as there’s more than a little racism in the Tea Party…”

…and Gowd help you if you are a Black Jewish CEO! OY!

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
6:36 pm

Boy, Jay! Three threadie thingies in one day! Your annual review must be coming up!

md

October 26th, 2011
6:36 pm

Adam…..we’ll just have to disagree on that one…..personally, I think a Professor of Law would be very aware of her choice of words………..

Adam

October 26th, 2011
6:38 pm

josef: I seriously doubt the amount of anti-semitism in the legitimate OWS movement actually exists. You’ve got one or two people claiming they are part of the OWS movement, just by showing up and spouting anti-semitism. The people who are there and have been there from the beginning do NOT approve of this.

detritusUSA

October 26th, 2011
6:38 pm

Jay, Jay, Jay. Rockefeller a RINO? Come on! He Was the richest of rich republicans. RINO’s are republican wanna be’s. You know, they don’t have enough money to be spit on by real republicans, but they think that they are republicans and support policies that are economic suicide for their income level. RINO’s are just dupes! Real republicans are laughing their butts off all the way to the bank.

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
6:38 pm

” I can tell you there won’t be anyone on the right who secretly hopes Obama wins if Romney is the nominee.”

True, Gordon. But O’bozo will win if that’s the case. That’s why the lib ilk wants Romney to win the primaries.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:39 pm

Normal and K’chak

:-)

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
6:40 pm

BTW, Jay, saw your hardcopy post in today’s paper. (I usually never read the hardcopy version, but I was in a restaurant where a stray copy was lying around.) Looks even better in print.

Course Kathleen (or is it Katherine) Parker’s got you beat in the looks department!

Gordon

October 26th, 2011
6:41 pm

I disagree, Sink. How many conservatives do you think will vote for Obama if Romney is the nominee? All the ones that vote. But how many Independents will vote for Obama if Cain or Gingrich are the nominee? Lots of them. But at least half will vote for Romney over Obama.

Aquagirl

October 26th, 2011
6:41 pm

Huh?

Adam, I took the “that’s sad” as shorthand for “It is sad that finding Republican candidates that do not sound bat$#!^ crazy when they open their pie-hole is more difficult than bringing down a North American ilk with a plastic spoon.”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
6:42 pm

I was recently in Washington and saw an Ilkasaurus (Liberalis Ilksusaurus at the Museum of Natural History. I believe they roamed the earth about the same time as Jesus. They were fierce fighters and often the entire pride hunted together, some distracting Conivinus Ignoramus and their masters, while others would take them down and rip out their necks.

Gordon

October 26th, 2011
6:42 pm

I should have said “none of the ones that vote” above. Sorry.

philosopher

October 26th, 2011
6:42 pm

Years and years of slimey Newt cannot be forgotten, no matter what he has to offer. And after the John Edwards debaucle and the Clinton “shocking” behavior in the White House, the Repubs better think really long and hard before they put Newtsky on the table…the entire party would be served up for cow fodder. While I am not a Republican and never will be, I simply cannot believe that in this entire country there is not a viable Republican candidate for presidency…what gives???

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:42 pm

ADAM

You will note I said they were far from the mainstream…but don’t delude yourself that it’s that “one or two.” The same as the overt and blatant racists with the Tea Party…but they ARE there…

Paul

October 26th, 2011
6:44 pm

Adam

“There is no strong Republican candidate. ESPECIALLY when it comes to foreign policy. Anyone think that the Republicans can do a better job at protecting us from terrorists right now? Hmm?”

Huntsman was on the All-Star Panel on Fox Evening News last night. Got more airtime than in all the debates put together. Anyhow, in the second clip down, about the 6-minute mark they get into foreign policy.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/special-report/2011/10/26/jon-huntsman-race-long-haul

md

October 26th, 2011
6:44 pm

If the gop wants to win, their best hope is more than likely Romney…….the idea is to appeal to the swing voters, not necessarily the base. And maybe even pick up a few Blue Dogs.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
6:45 pm

Is ilk the new pinko?

And RINO?

Jesus H. Krystallnacht.

That one went the way of the dodo when the dodo’s started using it to describe Chuck Hagel…

Swede Atlanta

October 26th, 2011
6:46 pm

Newt may appear to be the candidate of the week. It is clear that Republicans, at least those likely primary voters that have been polled, are not thrilled about any of the candidates.

If you recall Bachmann was up at one time, then came Perry, then Cain and now Gingrich.

The problem is, and this is true among both parties, primaries tend to bring out the most ideologically driven among the electorate. Many even long-time Republicans or Democrats don’t bother to attend a caucus or vote in a primary. They just go and pull the lever or mash the appropriate square on the computer screen.

Most of the current slate of Republican candidates hold, or at least publicly express, views that are largely outside the American mainstream. Their views may express the same frustration as many Americans but they fall outside.

So while it may take fairly “out there” ideas to win the nomination, winning the general election takes someone who is perceived as being fairly mainstream, especially among independent voters. They are usually the ones that determine an election.

So if the Republicans nominate someone with extreme views, especially on the economy, they will have a challenge in winning the general election. Many independents will ask themselves, I may not agree with Obama on a number of policy issues but do I really want to vote with someone that holds such extreme views? I suspect many of them, despite their doubts about Obama, will opt for him rather than the extremist.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:46 pm

Aquagirl…
Yeah! That’s a good translation! :-)

Gordon…
Yep.

good fight
@ 6:42….
Good one!

Paul

October 26th, 2011
6:47 pm

detritusUSA

Look at Reagan’s record. By the standards of today’s Republican base, he’s way past RINO.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
6:47 pm

I feel ilky after busting in the Halloween ilky way bars.

Moderate Line

October 26th, 2011
6:48 pm

Cain is to the Republicans what Obama was to the Democrats. Both appeal to the emotions of the extremes of both parties although Obama has lost much of that now that he has had to closer to the center. Cain has no experience political which has been devestating to Obama as president. Democrat president seem to have less control over their party than Republicans. Clinton did better with a Republican congress. Obama has had a tough time getting his own party to vote for his proposals.

I believe the longer the race remains more than two people the better for Romney. Romney is well position in terms of marketing for a multi-canidate race but if the election were norrowed to two canidates it would be tough unless the other canidate would be an obvious loser to Obama.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
6:49 pm

Ilk, it does a body good!

Mighty Righty

October 26th, 2011
6:50 pm

Compared to the community organizer kenyan socialist anyone else will do. The bar can’t be any lower.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
6:51 pm

Willard will be the new Michael Dukakis.

All he needs to do is pose for a photo, atop a tank with a helmet three sizes too big…

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
6:51 pm

getalife

October 26th, 2011
6:51 pm

“Perry opposes Confederate Texas license plate proposal”

Lib ilk.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:52 pm

Well, if we can get him on the ballot, I’ve found my candidate…the Honey Badger Party!

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
6:53 pm

“How many conservatives do you think will vote for Obama if Romney is the nominee? All the ones that vote. ”

None, Gordon. My fear is that enough conservatives won’t be energized enough to get to the polls.

If it’s a closer election, say 3-4% in favor of Romney, Romney will get ACORNed leading to an O’bozo victory.

josef

October 26th, 2011
6:56 pm

PAUL

“Look at Reagan’s record. By the standards of today’s Republican base, he’s way past RINO.”

And that’s sad…

getalife

October 26th, 2011
6:58 pm

When you ask willard a question, start with what is your position today………..

Talk about a flip flop.

Paul

October 26th, 2011
6:58 pm

josef

Yeah.

And I could have added “Yet the Republican base idolizes Reagan. Which says what about the intellectual disconnects in the Party base?”

md

October 26th, 2011
6:58 pm

“None, Gordon. My fear is that enough conservatives won’t be energized enough to get to the polls.”

I don’t see that……not going to the polls is essentially casting a vote for Obama……and I don’t see the right being deferential to the cause at this point……

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2011
6:59 pm

I think you cons should nominate Pat Robertson since he seems to be the least extreme candidate you have at the moment.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:01 pm

Republicans are so desperate to get back the white house, I wonder why, they are the party that screwed us up royally the first decade of this century. Too many people have not forgotten their incompetence and lies. They have nothing to offer but protection for the wealthy class, who are vastly outnumbered…

Gordon

October 26th, 2011
7:01 pm

md @6:58,

Exactly. You can be energized to vote for someone or against someone. Unfortunately it will be the latter, but that will still get out the vote.

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
7:01 pm

Jay, please enable the getalife Bozo Filter for my handle.

Reading his posts has a negative affect on my cerebellum.

Thanks!

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:03 pm

“Just what we need, a pompous, half-illiterate, self-serving, pompous, hypocritical, hysterical, Republican Carpetbagging, snake-oil salesman…L-rd, G-d, what have we done to deserve this?”
You elected that racist bigoted communist liar affirmative action idiot Obama, that’s how.

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:03 pm

“…nominate Pat Robertson since he seems to be the least extreme candidate you have at the moment.”

And that’s sad, too…

PAUL
It’s in the memo…never mind it makes no sense whatsoever, it’s the party line and is to be repeated at every turn…

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:05 pm

TruthBe
I trust that “you” there is the impersonal second person and not to be directly…I DIDN’T vote for Obama…

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:05 pm

“Jay, please enable the getalife Bozo Filter for my handle.

Reading his posts has a negative affect on my cerebellum.”

I guess I will never be in your ilk but I am in your head.

Swede Atlanta

October 26th, 2011
7:06 pm

Soothsayer…Please advise Lizard Man that I have personally spoken with God (just like W and Perry’s wife) and she is not in a forgiving mood. He may want to be planning for a roast, toasty eternity.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
7:06 pm

Did someone forget Kenyan? Hmmmm…… no soup for you!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
7:07 pm

getalife…. there’s a lot of room for a ilk to roam those wide open spaces in that head!

Aquagirl

October 26th, 2011
7:09 pm

An ilk once bit my sister…..

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:09 pm

C’mon wingers, secretly you love to hate obama. It gives you energy, passion and most importantly, a person where you can take all your ideological brainwashing and project those odd principles, then blame all the mistakes of the previous guy on obama as if he is only one at fault in your universe. It is your medicine…

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:10 pm

Keep,

A head of ilk .

Here comes sarah in a teleprompter er helicopter.

Mighty Righty

October 26th, 2011
7:10 pm

My biggest concern is not who our canidate will be but who the Democrats are going to run. The Democrat power brokers, the real democrats that run the party, as opposed to the ones on here who merely run their mouths, are seriously trying to ease Obama out. They know he will not only lose but will destroy the party for years to come. The democrats have a history of changing canidates at the last minute when their canidate trails in the polls. Look for Obama to make an announcement that he wants to spend more time with his family early next year.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
7:11 pm

I DIDN’T vote for Obama…

Niiice.

Open mouth and insert both feet. As well as a hand up to the elbow, some garden tools and ilk gun.

No World Series action tonight. Raining in Mizzou…

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
7:12 pm

An ilk once bit my sister…..

No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møøse ilk
with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
her by Svenge – her brother-in-law – an Oslo dentist and
star of many Norwegian møvies: “The Høt Hands of an Oslo
Dentist”, “Fillings of Passion”, “The Huge Mølars of Horst
Nordfink”.

Mynd you, møøse ilk bites Kan be pretty nasti…

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:12 pm

josef, No harm intended. “You” referrs to the comment You made in Your comment.
You = people who voted for Obama in general.

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
7:13 pm

“I guess I will never be in your ilk but I am in your head.”

Not at all, getalife. I am just concerned about the IQ of the lurkers of this blog. If they happen to read your “contributions” without understanding what a moron lib ilk you are, their IQ will recede a point or two.

It’s kind of like a PSA.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:14 pm

mighty

That’s some pure fantasy wishing goin on there…

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:14 pm

TruthBe

Say what? How does what you said relate to me not voting for President Obama…? Please, clarify…

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:15 pm

I bet sink wears ilk pajamas…

Jay

October 26th, 2011
7:15 pm

The Democrat power brokers, the real democrats that run the party, as opposed to the ones on here who merely run their mouths, are seriously trying to ease Obama out. They know he will not only lose but will destroy the party for years to come.

It appears that Mighty has a mole in the upper reaches of the DNC. Or maybe it’s a molar in the upper half of his jaw. Anyway, it’s one of the two.

Jack

October 26th, 2011
7:15 pm

Lotsa smoke being blown here, but I don’t believe anyone in here will admit they’re gonna vote for Obama. Many of those who voted for him the last time will just stay home this time around.

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:15 pm

Mick, Wake up it’s not a dream. Obama and his administration is destroying America
and the democrat party.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
7:15 pm

Oh no Aquagirl…… be careful. I heard the only way to bring her down now that she’s been bitten is a silver stake dipped in holy water blessed by a former muslim turned christian turned patriot. You might try a couple cloves of Republican cow pie around her neck to weight her down.

kayaker 71

October 26th, 2011
7:16 pm

Hillary/Newt….. now there’s a match in heaven. Both experienced, both determined and both electable. But the price of admission would be to see a Bozo/Newt debate. I cannot believe how Newt would hand the community organizer his hat and make him look like the amateur that he is. Newt would be a good president…… and Bookman knows it.

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:16 pm

Ah, the MORON Lib Ilk…not an endangered species, for sure, but a little on the fatty side…

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:17 pm

truth

I’m awake but its your nightmare. Think mccain/palin where would we be now? Case closed…

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:17 pm

You = You that people in general that voted for Obama. Next question please.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:19 pm

f.,

moron ilk?

I think the lurkers can speak for themselves and you and your ilk should stop projecting with that moron crap.

Yellow ilk card.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:19 pm

yaker
**Newt would be a good president**

There’s a reason your views are a bit off center and definately the minority. Newt? Good grief, obama would hand his head to him, it wouldn’t even be a fair contest…

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:20 pm

Mick, Better than Obama’s economy. Didn’t like mccain either. Did you?

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:20 pm

good fight…
You left out the garlic!

kayaker…

Newt wouldn’t make a good anything…he’s not even a good good-for-nothing, imo…

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2011
7:20 pm

I think Obama is just grateful that the Republicans have no racists amongst them. Otherwise, they might Huff and puff and try to blow his house down, likely with some sort of birther nonsense.

St Simons - we're on Island time

October 26th, 2011
7:21 pm

Well, whoever above said that Romney won’t get the wingnut base out to the polls, I think they’re right. A cursory listen to the local radio stations out here in the hinterlands will tell you that. They’re calling him everything from a cult member to the antichrist. I personally heard “worse than the muslin” on Jacksonville radio just today. I don’t exactly know why I listen sometimes, maybe the Sun Tzu, Know Your Enemy thing.

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
7:21 pm

“The democrats have a history of changing canidates at the last minute when their canidate trails in the polls.”

I’m tellin’ Redneck that you done stole his spelling of canidate! He’s gonna be madder than a wet hen!

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:21 pm

TruthBe

Nope. That clears it up.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:22 pm

truth

I used to respect mccain but he wussed out when bush punked him and didn’t fight back. When he picked palin, that was the last straw, he’s as kooky as dingy harry.

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:22 pm

Mick, I would love to see a debate between Obama and Newt. Newt would destroy the president. Because the president has a free pass from the mainstreet media. And most of you all know it.

Mighty Righty

October 26th, 2011
7:23 pm

Mick-You are close except its no secret. You looney lefties on the other hand, blame Bush who had to deal with a democrat house and senate for most of his eight years while excusing Obama’s failure of thirty three months on 8 months of a republican house. You just can’t get it. Leaders lead, whiners whine. Obama was never qualified to be president and his record is proof.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
7:24 pm

…Bush who had to deal with a democrat house and senate for most of his eight years …

Not intended to be a factual statement.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:25 pm

Gordon: You can be energized to vote for someone or against someone. Unfortunately it will be the latter, but that will still get out the vote.

Anyone want to remind me how well being “not Bush” worked out for Kerry?

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:25 pm

truthbe

By the way, the residuals of the previous administrations epic economic collapse have crippled this country for maybe another 6 to 7 years. Obama is getting blamed for not solving the mess quick enough. Your side wants nothing more than to tag him with the whole deal – we are not buying that garbage….

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
7:26 pm

“Bush who had to deal with a democrat house and senate for most of his eight years”

You mean like this Democrat House and Senate?

Joe The Plumber too.

October 26th, 2011
7:27 pm

nah mick, mostly it’s just because urkle is a piece of crap. The ones who need pity are you libs who think that that egomaniac gives one hoot about your lives.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
7:27 pm

The only debate i have ever seen Newt “win” was when it was with Hannity or O’Reilly…

If he was as smart as the faithful pretend, he wouldn’t say the staggeringly stupid things he does with such regularity.

Hell, he even broke Ronnie’s moronic 11th Commandment…

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:27 pm

A debate between Obama and Newt? Perish the thought…I took that class in undergraduate and it was a waste of time then, too…

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:28 pm

Jack: Lotsa smoke being blown here, but I don’t believe anyone in here will admit they’re gonna vote for Obama.

*raises hand* Uh, I will!

Your candidates suck. There’s really no choice BUT Obama.

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:28 pm

josef, You’re wrong about Newt, his college history class was wonderful. He would be a
great President with a Republican Senate and Congress.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:30 pm

**and his record is proof.**

-Saved the auto industry
-got bin laden
-got awaliki
-orchestrated moammar’s demis
-ending iraq war

Republicans have done what to help? Sad NO to everything, record number of filibusters

Republicans are the losers, How have they helped america in any way?
OH I know, protected the wealthy from a 3% tax increase. Pathetic…

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:30 pm

TruthBe: He would be a great President with a Republican Senate and Congress.

So would any Republican figurehead.

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
7:30 pm

“epic economic collapse have crippled this country for maybe another 6 to 7 years”

How about putting that on a bumper sticker, Mick?

Vote for 6 more years of misery!! O’bozo 2012!!!

:lol:

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:31 pm

joe

If anyone knows about crap, its you. What you said applies to all your guys too, he’s by far the best of the worst. Keep shoveling…

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:32 pm

Yeah, we need another gop rubber stamp congress.

That ilk never learns from their mistakes.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:32 pm

You guys acting like the Democrats want Obama out and that no one will admit they want to vote for Obama, well all I have to say to that is you should try to scare Democrats into not voting somewhere else. It won’t work here.

kayaker 71

October 26th, 2011
7:33 pm

Newt, not like our present debacle, really loves this country. His books reflect his deep devotion to our country, our Constitution and what made America the country that it is. This says a lot about a person. Pick up a copy of “Valley Forge” and give it a good read. Not only is he a good author…. he expresses a sentiment for America that Bozo just does not have. Fewer and fewer people want to live in an Obama America. That is obvious to anyone but some dufus who has his head in the sand. We are tired of this clown, his failed policies and his naive approach to what a great country we live in. Bozo has failed again and again. The numbers, like James Carville said, just don’t lie. Newt would be a refreshing change, with ideas that this country needs to survive. We are broke and in survival mode. Nothing much is working and our great country is sliding toward second tier. We need someone with a vision and Bozo’s vision is killing us.

Mark in mid-town

October 26th, 2011
7:34 pm

Jay writes about Gingrich “And in his heart he really hasn’t changed much, as evidenced by his recent suggestion that U.S. Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd ought to be tossed into prison.”

Jay, you left out the context of that suggestion. When the full context is provided, what Gingrich said was quite understandable and reasonable. In a nutshell, Gingrich was criticizing the liberal msm for aiming almost all its fire at the private sector and Wall Street for the housing debacle, while letting people in government such as Barney Frank and Chris Dodd off the hook for their complicity. Their complicity involved not just imposing incredibly bad policy, but also engaging in some very sleazy behavior as well.

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:34 pm

Mick, My dear friend please open your eyes. Obama is a complete failure as the president and the Senate and Congress are to blame aswell. Bush failed with the economy too but not as bad as our liberal president Obama. Just look at the unemployement numbers. Bush’s highest 6%, Obama at least 17%. Some say Obama’s numbers as high as low 20%.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:34 pm

sink

Sure, brought to you courtesy of the previous lemonhead…

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
7:34 pm

“-Saved the auto industry
-got bin laden
-got awaliki
-orchestrated moammar’s demis
-ending iraq war”

Go sell that bilge to your neighbor who’s been unemployed because of O’bozo’s anti-business policies.

Be careful though. He might shoot you.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
7:35 pm

I am with Adam. I voted Obama before and will vote for him again. No way would I have Palin as #2 and no way would any of the current idiots on stage for the Republican that have a shot get my vote. And just to be clear to the clowns who claim “messiah” or some nonsense. Am I completely happy with Obama? NOPE! But he is a better option that any other candidate that will be on the ballot! So shut your piehole :D

Joe The Plumber too.

October 26th, 2011
7:35 pm

uh-oh mick made a funny. Doesn’t matter who runs against him, urkle is toast and then peanuthead carter will be able to claim he’s the second worst president ever.

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:37 pm

TruthBe
His college class was what? So THAT explains your, uh, often faulty time lines and frequent lack of attention to details and inabilities to accurately reproduce a quote…he’s a quack as an academician, a quack as a poltician, and a quack as a quasi human being…again, imo

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
7:38 pm

Just look at the unemployement numbers. Bush’s highest 6%…

Not intended to be a factual statement.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:38 pm

Sinkwich: Go sell that bilge to your neighbor who’s been unemployed because of O’bozo’s anti-business policies.

No such person exists. People are unemployed because of Wall Street and the deregulation efforts of Republicans over a decades.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:39 pm

tb,

w collapsed our economy.

You can’t get any worse than that.

You are blind to facts like that.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:39 pm

Keep: Am I completely happy with Obama? NOPE! But he is a better option that any other candidate that will be on the ballot! So shut your piehole :D

Exactly

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:40 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight, You Uncle Obama would be very proud of you. Keep drinking
the obamajuice. Adam that goes for you to precious.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:41 pm

truthbe

One question: In sept 08, when the world economy was about to collapse, whose fault was that? Can you knuckleheads put 2 and 2 together? When the real estate bubble burst, all that hot money came to an end. People don’t have the money to spend anymore, this will take six or seven more years for inventory to clear. OK, so hate obama for whatever your personal reasons are but don’t insult your intelligence by tagging him with all the blame then go one step further and say, how come you ain’t fixed our boy the bushwackers mess?

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:41 pm

“But he is a better option that any other candidate that will be on the ballot!”

And that’s sad…

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:42 pm

TruthBe: I’d like to see you get behind a single candidate and stick with it even if they don’t win the primary. Your party is divided and it’s all because ALL of your candidates suck. Look at Bush vs Kerry for evidence that you guys are now on the side of trying to win simply out of hate for the guy in office. That doesn’t work.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
7:43 pm

Hmmm… obamajuice vs santorum. i’ll take more juice TB…you stick with the santorum! precious.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
7:43 pm

One more time for the willfully ignorant:

Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents, more than 61 percent of the historians concluded that his presidency was the worst in the nation’s history. Another 35 percent of the historians surveyed rated the Bush presidency in the 31st to 41st category, while only four of the 109 respondents ranked the current presidency as even among the top two-thirds of American administrations.

And though it sucks bad for you Bushbots, there are plenty of other polls, so far, that put your hero so far behind Jimmy it looks like Usane Bolt running a 100 meter race against….Frank Sinkwich.

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:43 pm

josef, Take a breath please.
getalife, No 911 did.
kamchak, Numbers are true but Obama’s friend at Acorn tell another story. Fauld.

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:43 pm

“Adam that goes for you to precious”

To precious, or not to precious. That is the question, t’wether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows or outrageous unfortunates, or to take arms against a sea of troubles…

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:44 pm

Keep’s uncle is the President.

I had no idea I was among the President’s family.

When did ya’ll come out wit “Obamajuice”

Does it taste like ilk?

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:44 pm

joe

The previous president has that worst category all wrapped up to himself, in a class by himself…

sink

The unemployed guy needs to get to the root of the problem, and thats not obama..

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
7:44 pm

“People are unemployed because of Wall Street and the deregulation efforts of Republicans over a decades.”

OMG.

I hope you got maced down at Woodruff.

Take a bath yet?

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:45 pm

Mick: Obama is the anti-christ who went back in time to destroy the economy in order to get elected and he also gave powers to Barney Frank to have hypnotic control over the Republicans for years so he could push his liberal/socialist/marxist/compromise/progressive/homosexual agenda without the Republicans even knowing he was doing it!

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
7:45 pm

I voted for Obama last go round and I believe the present GOP field will force me to do so again. The right wing extremists can call me a socialist all day long, but if a “socialist” is someone that would rather have Obama than someone who says the crazy crap these failed biological experiments put out in the national media…then I need to schedule my appointment to get a Che tattoo and I’ll read some Karl Marx while I’m waiting.

If Pat Robertson is telling you that you’re getting to extreme, you might be just a tad too far out there.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:45 pm

“No 911 did.”

Oh my.

We got us a winner here.

Good grief.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
7:46 pm

josef, I agree it is sad. But I also acknowledge that any candidate has to appeal to a mass of voters and that much of Obama’s administration has been frustrated by a Republican party that has created a dsyfunctional congress the likes we have not seen in decades, if at all.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:46 pm

Sinkwich: OMG.

I hope you got maced down at Woodruff.

Take a bath yet?

I accept your surrender.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
7:47 pm

kamchak, Numbers are true but…

There is no, “but”.

You bore false witness.

That’s one of those big ten thingies.

You are a lying ilk.

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:47 pm

Keep, That’s not my candidate. Try again. Obama is a LOSER in 2012. Why? Because his ideology and policies have failed America and most of the people know this.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:47 pm

deep south

We hear you, finally a lick of common sense…

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
7:47 pm

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
7:48 pm

“Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents, more than 61 percent of the historians concluded that his presidency was the worst in the nation’s history.”

So AV drags this out to make his messiah, O’bozo, not seem as bad as everyone knows he is.

Won’t work, Dufuss. Learn a new tune.

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:49 pm

Kamchak, The numbers don’t lie. Since when do you believe in those “ten thingies”?
GOD bless you anyway my dear friend.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:49 pm

TruthBe: Because his ideology and policies have failed America and most of the people know this.

Funny. Polls say otherwise. Ask about any of his specific policies and most of them are supported by a majority of the public. Ask specifically about “unions” and suddenly you get a different result than if you ask about members of unions, such as teachers and firefighters. So you guys are good at making dirty words out of thin air, but you lose on substance EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:50 pm

good fight

“…if at all…” The Congress of the 1850s, tops it, but not by a comfortable enough margin…

Adam
@ 7:45

:-)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
7:50 pm

Truthlacking……. so you say….Dewey wins!

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2011
7:50 pm

You cons ought to be posting higher wading shoes with each post.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:50 pm

tb,

9/11 did not collapse our economy con.

Where in the world did you get that thought?

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:51 pm

sink

Obama is nowhere as bad as you scream about nor is he as good as you say we say he is but right now, he is by FAR the most competent politician on the roster. He will prevail against your looney tunes much to your dismay….

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:51 pm

“Adam that goes for you to precious”

To precious, or not to precious. That is the question, t’wether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows or outrageous unfortunates, or to take arms against a sea of troubles…
josef, That was funny and very witty. Much enjoyed that.

saywhat?

October 26th, 2011
7:52 pm

Every time you think that the republicans can’t get any more shallow, somebody lets a little more water out of the pool.

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:53 pm

Keep, Now Now there no name calling. Jay’s watching.

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
7:53 pm

9/11 collapsed our economy because it happened in 2001 and the delayed effects of it caused the economy to really collapse in 2008. Get it? It’s really simple.

josef

October 26th, 2011
7:53 pm

Oh, partisans, get real…neither Bush nor Obama are even in the top ten of worst presidents…Good L-rd do any of y’all blathering that have even a cursory acquaintance with American History?

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:54 pm

Adam, Keep dreaming, your wrong. And Obama is a one termer.

Fast and Furious Spending

October 26th, 2011
7:54 pm

To today’s voters, he also comes across as a politician from another century, when men named Clinton and Reagan and Dole walked the corridors of Washington.

What utter nonsense!!!

getalife

October 26th, 2011
7:54 pm

“9/11 collapsed our economy because it happened in 2001 and the delayed effects of it caused the economy to really collapse in 2008. Get it? It’s really simple.”

Ah con ilk logic.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:55 pm

josef: Who are the top ten worst?

Mick

October 26th, 2011
7:55 pm

josef

Don’t be getting too uppity, we are all entitled to our opinions about the best and worst, why would you think that you have the upper hand?

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
7:56 pm

Kamchak, The numbers don’t lie.

Exactly.

Let’s get in the wayback machine and review your original assertion, shall we?

TruthBe

October 26th, 2011
7:34 pm

Mick, My dear friend please open your eyes. Obama is a complete failure as the president and the Senate and Congress are to blame aswell. Bush failed with the economy too but not as bad as our liberal president Obama. Just look at the unemployement numbers. Bush’s highest 6%, Obama at least 17%. Some say Obama’s numbers as high as low 20%.

As BLS statistics show, unemployment rates starting in Aug 2008 are above 6% and climbed over 7.5% in Jan 2009.

You

.

bore

.

false

.

witness.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:56 pm

TruthBe: Adam, Keep dreaming, your wrong. And Obama is a one termer.

Nope, I am correct. And you know it. And Obama is a two termer and you know that too. You’re flailing, and mad. Can’t say I blame you. Your entire ideology is crumbling around your feet after being given a glimmer of hope that you would be able to take over the country and turn it into a Plutocracy and Theocracy all at the same time. I would say nice try, but you guys really blew it!

kayaker 71

October 26th, 2011
7:57 pm

I really think that this love of country thing is something to hang your hat on. Look at Bozo during his formative years….. lived abroad in Indonesia, went to a Muslim school, was registered as a Muslim because of this father, traveled in Pakistan and other Muslim countries during in his teens. Some might say that that would be broadening his education but with him, it stuck. He emerged as a tainted liberal with world visions in mind. His mind wasn’t focused on America and loyalty to this country. In his book, he freely admits what his formative years meant to him and how it made a difference as to his philosophy today. He had no real grounding in America. His college years and years in law school simply were fertile ground for what he learned earlier and he made full use of it. He might go on and on in his campaign speeches about his love for this country but I don’t believe it and the majority of Americans don’t believe it either. A person with a real basic love for America, although not having experience, will make decisions based on America’s best interest. He has not….. far from it. Most Americans do not want to live in an Obama America.

Fast and Furious Spending

October 26th, 2011
7:57 pm

9/11 collapsed our economy because it happened in 2001 and the delayed effects of it caused the economy to really collapse in 2008.

What utter nonsense!!!

Looks like I have good reason to keep repeating myself.

Adam

October 26th, 2011
7:57 pm

I’m out for the night. I’ll get to my attackers later ;)

Fast and Furious Spending

October 26th, 2011
7:58 pm

kayaker 757,

Good, good analysis.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
7:58 pm

Mick @ 7:51
I have to agree. Obama has been a huge letdown (especially to the younger, more idealistic voters), and his charisma definitely did not translate well from campaign to administration, but again…the current crop of GOP is so incredibly bad that the GOP will *finally* have to stop making chides about Dukakis and Gore.

Also have to take into account the obstructionist House and Senate GOP. And with the filibuster rules that Harry Reid left in place…the minority in the Senate can obstruct like mad men.

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
8:00 pm

“The Democrat power brokers, the real democrats that run the party, as opposed to the ones on here who merely run their mouths, are seriously trying to ease Obama out.”

I guess that would be the international conspiracy of communists and Jewish bankers……

Mick

October 26th, 2011
8:00 pm

yaker

That rant was seriously delusional. I’m not buying what you’re selling, what gives you the cojones to determine one’s americanism? That’s downright un-american…

getalife

October 26th, 2011
8:01 pm

Perhaps we should add w was the worst in modern history or in our life times.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
8:01 pm

No, Frank, just proving how nonsensical your claim is that Carter was a worse president than George.

It’s not even close. (Excluding in your bizarre, made up parallel reality.)

BTW, N-GA made an astute observation about your moniker the other morning. He noted that you are a disgrace to use the name you use.

But I do love it when you try to go all intellectual, though.

“Reading his posts has a negative affect on my cerebellum.”

The cerebellum (Latin for little brain) is a region of the brain that plays an important role in motor control. It is also involved in some cognitive functions such as attention and language.

So getalife’s posts causes you to go into spasms, forget what you’re doing and talk in tongues?

(I suspect he is not the reason. LOL!)

Stick to the one or two syllable words that you can handle…

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2011
8:03 pm

All the con bluster but no committment from them for their favorite candidate amongst the ones ready to represent them!!! :lol:

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
8:03 pm

This just in:

“Asked to rank the most ignorant, mentally deficient posters on Jay’s blog in comparison to conservatives, more than 61 percent of the Mensa members concluded that AmVet was the worst in the nation’s history, followed closely by getalife, Adam, and Mick”

“The competition is fierce for that crown,” said the Mensa president. “Many others, including the blog’s author, vie for it every day.”

Fast and Furious Spending

October 26th, 2011
8:03 pm

for an unjust, illegal war based on lies

Sooth,

You are uniquely unqualified to assert anything regarding the lies of your political opponents. To comprehend lies, you need first to be well grounded in the truth.

Since you are not, you are dealing in degrees of untruth only, and any categorization you make is suspect.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
8:05 pm

Talk about partisan.

Read kay’s rant.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
8:05 pm

sink

Lame…

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:06 pm

ADAM

Well, for some reason the blog won’t let me post my own 10 worst (tried twice) and since it’s not “in moderation” I have no idea why….maybe the Bruin could tell us…

But, Mick, it’s not being uppity…Obama and Bush both are not even “in history…” They’re still current events…

Fast and Furious Spending

October 26th, 2011
8:07 pm

mick @ 8,

Sticking up for kayaker’s definitions of Americanism, I would only say that words have meaning. The word American either means something or it doesn’t. If it does mean something, then we ought to be intelligent enough to determine whether or not A is A, as Plato said.

If being American means nothing at all, then you’re entirely right. Who is he to say that Obama’s American or not?

Who are you, in fact, to say that he’s wrong?

saywhat?

October 26th, 2011
8:07 pm

Josef,

Its hardly partisan to claim w bush as one of the worst- his record is in the books and it ain’t pretty. The colossal foreign policy blunder of invading Iraq all by itself qualifies him, especially given all the long term social and economic consequences here at home, which have not yet even fully played out. Not to mention, I can’t think of a single positive thing he accomplished for the country as president. His signature tax cuts helped leave the country in record debt, along with the “off the books” accounting for the wars. Medicare part d, while a decent idea in theory, was completely screwed up in actual , being nothing more than a giveaway to the drug companies, and of course, also unfunded. He left the country in an economic shambles from which it will take many more years to recover.Over the course of the bush presidency there was a net job growth of ZERO. What other presidents have “accomplished” so much?

As for Obama, wait 7 years, (2 years after his presidency ends), and then begin to make a decision. To do so sooner truly is partisan.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
8:07 pm

Ah come on f.

Plagiarizing now?

Use that brilliant mind of yours and come up with something original.

Lame.

kayaker 71

October 26th, 2011
8:09 pm

Mick,

One of the things that impressed me about Palin was her basic love for this country. I don’t think that she would have made a very good Veep but she has a certain spark that turns on patriots and I really don’t think that it is coming from some dumb ass*ed Wasilla AK governor. People recognize almost immediately how a person feels about the country that they live in and the electorate expects the person that they elect to have a love of country, a certain affinity for what made this country great. That’s why Newt would make a good president. Maybe not our best but a basically good president. Certainly head and shoulders over what we have now. We have to get some people back to work and Bozo is is just not doing it.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
8:09 pm

In the wake of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the United States enjoyed enormous support around the world. President Bush squandered that goodwill by taking the country into an unnecessary war of choice and misleading the American people to gain support for that war. And he failed utterly to have a plan to deal with Iraq after the invasion. He further undermined the international reputation of the United States by justifying torture.

Mr. Bush inherited a sizable budget surplus and a thriving economy. By pushing through huge tax cuts for the rich while increasing federal spending at a rapid rate, Bush transformed the surplus into a massive deficit. The tax cuts and other policies accelerated the concentration of wealth and income among the very richest Americans. These policies combined with unwavering opposition to necessary government regulations have produced the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Then there is the incredible shrinking dollar, the appointment of incompetent cronies, the totally inexcusable failure to react properly to the disaster of Hurricane Katrina, the blatant disregard for the Constitution—and on and on.

Like a majority of other historians who participated in this poll, my conclusion is that the preponderance of the evidence now indicates that, while this nation has had at least its share of failed presidencies, no previous presidency was as large a failure in so many areas as was that of George Walker Bush.

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:11 pm

saywhat…

I’m no fan of Bush by a long shot…and not much of one of Obama…but they come in well behind my list of top ten worst IMO

1.Andrew Jackson
2.Abraham Lincoln
3.Jefferson Davis
4. James Buchanan
5. U. S. Grant
6. Warren G. Harding
7.Richard Nixon
8.William McKinley
9.Herbert Hoover
10.Franklin Pierce

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
8:11 pm

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.

Cons cannot do humor.

And they should never, ever try it without adult supervision.

When the lion of your genre is Dennis Miller, you know you’re screwed…

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
8:12 pm

I would only say that words have meaning. The word American either means something or it doesn’t.

Yep.

“America” is a continental distinction.

Fidel Castro is an “American.”

So is the Brazilian futbol player Ronaldo de Assis Moreira AKA Ronaldinho.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
8:13 pm

kayaker 71 @ 8:09
“a certain spark that turns on patriots”

And if a left winger had said that, how quick would you be calling them a sexist?

Just curious. =)

getalife

October 26th, 2011
8:13 pm

The cons will never get over losing and smear our President with thoughts from rush and hannity.

He won fair and square cons and did not need the sc to decide.

He is a patriotic American and you cons have shown your true colors of unpatriotic and unAmerican behavior.

That is the truth.

Newt's 15 Minutes of Fame is Up

October 26th, 2011
8:13 pm

The only person that believes that Newt can be the Republican nominee is his wife!

Obama 2012

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:14 pm

saywhat…
No fan of either Bush or Obama…but they’re small potatoes compared to what has been there before…

saywhat?

October 26th, 2011
8:15 pm

Kayaker confused Palin’s love of MONEY for love of COUNTRY, which believe it or not, are not the same thing. Its a common Republican mistake.

kayaker 71

October 26th, 2011
8:17 pm

Deep South Outlaw,

I would think that any liberal poster would appreciate the rather hidden desire of most any poster, liberal or conservative, to appreciate Ms. Palin’s wiles. As an old man, I could only dream.

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
8:18 pm

AmVet: can you post a link for that? I would appreciate it.

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:18 pm

Let’s see if it gets through this time…my own top ten worst…

1.Andrew Jackson
2.Abraham Lincoln
3.Jefferson Davis
4.James Buchanan
5.U. S. Grant
6.Warren G. Harding
7.Richard Nixon
8.William McKinley
9.Herbert Hoover
10.Franklin Pierce

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:19 pm

YAY! Learn something new every day!

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
8:19 pm

…the rather hidden desire of most any poster, liberal or conservative, to appreciate Ms. Palin’s wiles.

This liberal has higher standards than Snowbilly Snooki.

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
8:20 pm

“Sooth,

You are uniquely unqualified to assert anything regarding the lies of your political opponents. To comprehend lies, you need first to be well grounded in the truth.

Since you are not, you are dealing in degrees of untruth only, and any categorization you make is suspect.”

I just posted the link. However, I do believe and most will concur that the Iraq war was based on a number of lies. Pick one.

kayaker 71

October 26th, 2011
8:20 pm

Saywhat,

She is only living out the American Dream…… would you trade places with her? How many others, both liberal and conservative, have done the same thing? The Clinton’s are worth millions and no one has ever questioned their loyalty to country.

saywhat?

October 26th, 2011
8:20 pm

Josef- I am also not a huge fan of the president. His methods of getting things done are too indirect, too slow, and too subject to derailment by a consolidated opposition. BUT, he has gotten some positive results so far, and I will withhold a full assessment until he is past done. I certainly don’t foresee ranking him in the top ten either, even if fruits of his labor are late blooming.

saywhat?

October 26th, 2011
8:21 pm

“The Clinton’s are worth millions and no one has ever questioned their loyalty to country.”

Except for people like you.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
8:21 pm

kayaker 71 @ 8:17

This is the internet. If that’s your itch, you’re trying to scratch it with butter.

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
8:22 pm

Kayaker: I’ve never heard anyone seriously claim that Palin doesn’t love America, only that she wasn’t competent to be vice president of anything other than a hunting club.

Love of country is admirable, but it’s about as much a qualification for a very complicated job as having blue eyes. And as far as words having meaning, it seems that few on the right have a basic understanding of the words “communist”, “socialist” and “Messiah.”

Mick

October 26th, 2011
8:24 pm

yaker

Sorry but palin came across as a bit of a phony politician to me. I like her looks and think she would be great fun to go camping with but as far as having an intellect worthy of solving our problems, its just not there…

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:24 pm

Sorry about that double posting of my list…for some reason it wasn’t going through, then it did…JAY? Did you release it? Just trying to figure out what the problem was…

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
8:25 pm

Mr_B @ 8:22

I think most of them understand “Messiah” quite well. It does irk me that they call someone they hold as a “Left wing extremist” to be a “Socialist” as that is a right wing idealogy.

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
8:25 pm

“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”

– Howard Zinn

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
8:27 pm

I suspect that many of the right choose their candidate based on the brain in their little head…that would explain so many pr*cks and idiots…..

As for Palin’s love of country, really? Her husband was part of a succession group for Alaska. That you forgive her for and she’s an patriot…… :lol:

kayaker 71

October 26th, 2011
8:27 pm

OK, I’m outta here. Look deeply into who you vote for, whether liberal or conservative. Pick the one who has a love of country above all else. Most of the rest of it falls into line, despite their experience. After all, we’re picking a person who will preserve what we have, give us a solid economic future and allow us to develop into the nation that we should. Right now, we are falling woefully short.

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
8:27 pm

“He is a patriotic American”

There is absolutely no evidence to support that assertion, get.

Please enlighten us to how his early years established and fostered his love for America and its ideals. You may also wish to include his associations with patriots Ayers and Wright, how he actively sought out Marxists while in college, and his love of teaching the principles of Alinsky as a visiting Professor.

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:28 pm

saywhat

That’s why I say it’s way too early to be putting either of the two on such a list…distance lends perspective…

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
8:34 pm

kayaker 71 @ 8:27
“Look deeply into who you vote for, whether liberal or conservative. Pick the one who has a love of country above all else.”

Which would be much easier to do if one side would stop taking “pledges” to fringe, single topic interest groups.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
8:34 pm

josef

Your list is pretty accurate. Jackson was a nasty SOB, how he rates being on our currency is a mystery to me. Jefferson davis doesn’t count to me but I know why you have him there…

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
8:37 pm

josef

Just out of curiosity, why do you consider Lincoln to be the second worst? Most historians hold him to be the best or second best.

Aquagirl

October 26th, 2011
8:37 pm

There is absolutely no evidence to support that assertion, get.

Except for that whole swearing to defend the Constitution thingy. Or I dunno, returning to live here, unless you think he was hauled back by wild ilk.

Look, if you want to make up fruitcake assertions and then play “it’s true unless you prove it’s not” I’m sure Sooth will oblige you. Have fun.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
8:38 pm

josef

Of course I do disagree with lincoln on your list but it’s because I’m a yank and he’s always been revered, hard to shake. He was an intellect and wrote some eloquent speeches to his credit…

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
8:39 pm

Jm

October 26th, 2011
8:39 pm

Can the US government ever cut spending, even in the face of huge deficits?

I’m beginning to think the answer is no. The road to ruin……

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
8:42 pm

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:43 pm

Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
- Adlai Stevenson

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
8:44 pm

Jm

Realize you might not be a fan of his, but I read this today…author is listed as Gene Vallee

Warren Buffett, “I could end the deficit in 5 minutes,” he told CNBC. “You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all
sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election. The 26th
amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months
& 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in
1971…before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the 27 amendments to
the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the
land…all because of public pressure.

Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of
twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do
likewise.
In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the
message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.

*Congressional Reform Act of 2011*

1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office
and receives no pay when they are out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All
funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security
system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system,
and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for
any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans
do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay
will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the
same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American
people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen
made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor,
not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours
should serve their term’s), then go home and back to work.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
8:44 pm

Can the US government ever cut spending, even in the face of huge deficits?

But…but…but…Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.

Which brings us to the economic level. The deficits that Bush ran up in the years in which the country was teetering on the verge of a serious recession had the beneficial effect of righting the economy. In that sense, deficits not only didn’t matter, but were a force for economic good.

Translation: IOKIYAR

wet wiccan

October 26th, 2011
8:44 pm

Any Bloom County fans here? This was done for the 2008 election cycle, but it still fits.

http://images.salon.com/comics/opus/2007/07/08/opus/story.jpg

getalife

October 26th, 2011
8:45 pm

I guess winning a war is now “unpatriotic”.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 26th, 2011
8:45 pm

but…but….but….josef, I have a flag pin and I say the Pledge of Allegiance (well at least the words I knows)…… :lol:

Martin Williams

October 26th, 2011
8:46 pm

Come on Jay, are you kidding me? Newt, I can see another four years of Obama. I do not from the bottom of my heart feel sorry for the GOP idiots. The GOP do not have the true candidate to challenge Obama come 2012. Cain is just a decoy for another Obama victory. Listen to Romney on Iraq, that our troops should stay for next 1000 years. Perry, I am truly surprise he is a two term governor of Texas……it tells you a lot about Texas people. I love Ron Paul the only truth sayer in the whole group. No GOP politician have ever stated that Ronald Reagan traded weapons for hostages to Iran, only Ron Paul and he is 100% correct.

Not Newt

October 26th, 2011
8:46 pm

“Eye of Newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork, and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg, and howlet’s wing,–
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.”

getalife

October 26th, 2011
8:48 pm

I guess getting obl is unpatriotic.

I guess saving our economy and auto industry is unpatriotic.

I guess crushing aq is unpatriotic.

I guess making his oppponent Sec. of State is unpatriotic.

I guess his long list of accomplishments is unpatriotic.

You cons are out of your minds and lost it after he won.

Look in the mirror to see a unpatriotic unAmerican sore loser.

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:49 pm

Why Lincoln and Davis…those two egomaniacs plunged this country into the most destructive, brutal, and bloody war yet to beset anyone other than the that against the Indians…it was unnecessary and neither one wanted anything but blood, blood and more blood and were driven by the most evil of forces, the sacrifice of lives to advance a political agenda…and that both Northerns and Southerners would laud them in hagiology speaks to how little we ever learn from the mistakes of the past and, thus, allows us to keep repeating the mistake…

philosopher

October 26th, 2011
8:50 pm

“Newt, not like our present debacle, really loves this country. His books reflect his deep devotion to our country, our Constitution and what made America the country that it is.” Gag a maggot- for real! This guy loves only one thing, and that Newt! So he can write stuff that you like to hear- great! But with the morals of an alley cat, it means absolutely nothing!

Jm

October 26th, 2011
8:50 pm

Deep south

Yeah he’s said that before

If you passed an amendment to do that it would work
A regular law and they’d just change it right before election

The Kid

October 26th, 2011
8:51 pm

Deep South Outlaw; …Amen. Republicans ,reap what you sow.

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
8:51 pm

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
8:52 pm

F. Sinkwich

October 26th, 2011
8:27 pm
“He is a patriotic American”

There is absolutely no evidence to support that assertion, get.

As there is absolutely none to support an assertion to the contrary; except in the conned mind.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
8:52 pm

Here ya go, Soothsayer.

Trust me, it is great fun to shove that one in the face of the Carter bashers…

http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html

And josef, you know I think you’re great.

But anybody who thinks Lincoln was one of the worst ever and Bush wasn’t is a tad bit outside of the mainstream!

getalife

October 26th, 2011
8:53 pm

Mr. Buffett is a great American patriot.

Look cons, a real American.

It is time to cut their benefits.

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:54 pm

Mick

I will say this for Lincoln (sorry, Granny! :-) ) , he was a wit of the first order…

“There are those who say I am two-faced. If I were two-faced, would I be wearing this one?”
“He could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:56 pm

ZamVet

Why the h3ll would I even want to be “mainstream?” Perish the thought! :-)

getalife

October 26th, 2011
8:56 pm

AmVet,

He is a tad bias against the Civil War loss.

I mean get over it already.

josef

October 26th, 2011
8:58 pm

Not Newt

Oh, good…you left out the liver of blaspheming Jew…ZamVet and I are safe for a while longer… :-)

Mr_B

October 26th, 2011
9:01 pm

josef: I curious as to your opinion of the following: Given the political climate in the preceding 25-30 years prior to 1861, and the fact that human slaves constituted a huge percentage of capitol investment in the pre-unpleasantness era, under what scenario could war have been avoided and the slaves freed? Note that I left out “perserving the union” as I think it was as much a smokescreen as “states rights.”

josef

October 26th, 2011
9:02 pm

getalife

Really? Just because I don’t buy the orthodox conservative interpretation (be it Southern or Northern) means I have a tad bias against the loss of the Civil War….I thought I made it clear that imo we ALL lost that war…

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:03 pm

“George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Franklin D. Roosevelt are consistently ranked at the top of the lists.”

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
9:07 pm

josef

October 26th, 2011
9:08 pm

Mr B…

I have often wondered that myself…the problem was that no one was willing to even try…overall, the United States would most likely have followed the patterns set in Cuba and Brazil…a gradual emancipation beginning around 1880 with compensation to the owners, land allotments to the freedmen, continued support for the aged and infirm, etc. Slavery as an insitution was considerably worse in those two societies and yet, today, their race relations are much better than ours…

josef

October 26th, 2011
9:09 pm

getalife

And? Hagiology is not a good idea…

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
9:10 pm

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:11 pm

This country is ripe for a revolution.

We should be arguing about the future not the past.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:13 pm

getalife

I rank Teddy right below those 3.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
9:15 pm

Hagiology is not a good idea…

Is that the study of haggis?

The Scots seem fond of ‘em.

josef

October 26th, 2011
9:17 pm

Deep South

Teddy? You’re not an Indian, are you?

wiccan

LOVE Bloom county,,,,

getalife

Yes, it is…and if we are wise we will look to the last time we had one and ask ourselves why…

Jm

October 26th, 2011
9:17 pm

Getalife 9:11
That might be the most intelligent thing I’ve heard u say…..

Hugh G. rection

October 26th, 2011
9:18 pm

Newt has more wisdom in his pinky finger than you magic messiah Odumbass has in his whole body. Obama is a dedicated socialist and an ENEMY of the US! Why do you think his college records are sealed? Is that because he is so transparent?
It is because if the truth was revealed about this Marxist “community organizer” it would be over in a flash! 20 years in his racist church and he never heard a thing. Idiot!

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:18 pm

Only in the South do they keep bringing up the Civil War.

If you want to leave the United States vote gop because they will default and the South finally leave.

josef

October 26th, 2011
9:19 pm

K’chak

The Scots should stick to banking, Calvinism, bagpipes and whiskey and stay out of the kitchen! :-)

RB from Gwinnett

October 26th, 2011
9:20 pm

Jay, how about you let us pick our candidate and you spend your time trying to figure out how to lie to enough morons to get them to believe Obama isn’t a complete failure.

We’ll take care of picking our candidate.

Jm

October 26th, 2011
9:22 pm

Deep south

I might put TR above Franklin though he was great too

Lincoln saved the union but Adams and Jefferson are awesome too

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:22 pm

josef

Nope, but I could understand them having a lowly opinion of him. But at the same turn, you ranked Lincoln as a “worst” when he freed an entire race. At worst, Teddy just didnt stop the extremely indefensible treatment of a race.

josef

October 26th, 2011
9:24 pm

getalife

And because the North seems to have forgotten it, we keep on repeating the same mistakes…

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
9:24 pm

We’ll take care of picking our candidate.

Many states, such as Ga., have open primaries. That means anyone can vote in either primary and vote for another party in the general election.

Jm

October 26th, 2011
9:24 pm

Getalife 9:18
Well, at least it’ll happen without slavery

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:26 pm

Jm

Washington’s greatest truly was prior to his presidency in many ways. But his service, I’ll gladly keep him up top. Lincoln’s obvious. FDR’s place will continue to go up or down depending upon the status of the country. Right now, I’d think some of his ideas would hold water…instead, we’re following Hoover down the rabbit hole again. All things in moderation though. Which is why I tend to agree with Getalife that we’re heading towards a lot of civil unrest ( I refuse to believe my countrymen will let it get to revolution though).

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:27 pm

“That might be the most intelligent thing I’ve heard u say…”

And I am still waiting for you to do the same

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:28 pm

Yeah josef,

The radical con behavior has been outstanding.

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
9:28 pm

getalife- Mr. Buffett is an evil rich man.

fixed your typo.

I know you hate him with every breathe in your body. He’s made fortunes off the backs of the poor without ever lifting a finger to help. I’m sure you’ve reserved a special table for him in he!!.

Jm

October 26th, 2011
9:30 pm

Deep south
Too much debt is an equal danger
Balanced budget amendment
Or buffetts solution

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
9:30 pm

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
9:31 pm

getalife- He is a tad bias against the Civil War loss. I mean get over it already.

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, getalife, and all the other Demwits on here say,”What?”.

josef

October 26th, 2011
9:33 pm

Deep South

Lincoln freed what? Have you read the Emancipation Proclamation? It didn’t free anybody…and the 13th Amendment was passed post Lincoln’s demise…he was lukewarm on emancipation at best and was not for equal rights of citizenship

Teddy was a great proponent of extermination (Dawes Commission…)

“.I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn’t inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.”

But, well, Geronimo DID get a Cadillac… :-)

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
9:33 pm

Somebody knows nothing whatsoever about Warren Buffett.

So they write nonsensical garbage to try and amuse…

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 26th, 2011
9:34 pm

So is Jay also worried about Gingrich? Yep, he’s worried about every Republican because he knows that Obama is in a heap of trouble against just about any challenger.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:34 pm

Jm

I agree that the debt outliers are extremely dangerous…especially since it’s closer to $70 Trillion than $14 Trillion by some estimates, but the economy will need a jump start to avoid that debt to be manageable. Call it stimulus, call it restructuring, call it a bacon, egg and cheese biscuit. Demand has to increase or we’re looking at financial hell..

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
9:35 pm

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
9:36 pm

funny listening to liberals lambaste newt and use the false liberal demagogue template that has been going after him for 15 years now…..while giving hussein a pass on far more vitriolic rhetoric as well as disatrous policies for 3 years now……this let’s me know that jay is a little scared of newt b/c he knows in a debate he would wipe the floor with hussein……interesting blog day today bookman………quite eye-opening…..hussein disses the actual democracy movement in iran while fomenting movements in two other countries that have delivered the power to radical islamists…..he’s 0 for 3……or is he….?
FYI……the radical leftists/marxists/socialist/revolutionaries that are protesting seem to be heading in the direction that I told you, Jay, would lead you to have to publically make a choice b/t free market capitalism and big-gov’t socialism………will you choose your radical ilk or your constitutional republic…..hmmmmm

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:37 pm

“We’ll take care of picking our candidate.”

You seem to be having a problem with that simple task.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
9:39 pm

amvet,
newt and hitler?………..brilliant and quite Lib 101 methodology….or rules for radicals…..whatever you like

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 26th, 2011
9:39 pm

The commander and chief campaigner is out on the road desperately trying to play his pathetic class warfare strategy to get re-elected against an electorate who has his number.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:39 pm

“will you choose your radical ilk”

Yeehaw, we got two ilks.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
9:39 pm

…this let’s me know that jay is a little scared of newt b/c he knows in a debate he would wipe the floor with hussein…

No matter how many different names you post that under, it won’t make it true. Just sayin’.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:40 pm

Is it still technically hyperbole when the issuer does not seem to realize it?

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
9:41 pm

getalife,
you seemed to have a problem picking your candidate as well….seeing as how he is incompetent up to this point in his presidency…….

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
9:42 pm

i post under one name…..two if you like

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2011
9:42 pm

The Republicans are going to have to quit their whining and pick their candidate eventually and they have so many left to vote off the island before their weiner is crowned.

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
9:44 pm

AmVet- Somebody knows nothing whatsoever about Warren Buffett

I know he hires fleets of lawyers and accountants to find every possible loophole so he doesn’t have to pay any income tax then goes on TV and complains “it’s not fair the little people have to pay more than I do.”

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
9:46 pm

it’s the same process the dems went through to pick the most incompetent pres since carter…..better our weiner than yours(anthony)…..

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
9:46 pm

Bobbybilly.

Have you always struggled with understanding standard written English? (LOL)

Yep, the neo-cons worst nightmare has come to pass.

This absurd slate is the best they can muster.

And actually rivals the laughfest from 2008…

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:47 pm

Billybob

As of yet, I have not heard that another Democrat was “throwing his hat in the ring”. So they seem pretty pat on their candidate thus far..or did I miss some breaking news?

Soothsayer

October 26th, 2011
9:47 pm

Newt will be latest Republican souffle that falls in the oven. Just like Trump, Bachmann, Palin, Perry — not to mention those that never got put in the oven like Christie.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 26th, 2011
9:48 pm

Warren Bluffet is a phony champion of the poor and middle class in this country.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:49 pm

Recon

I don’t think he’s trying to be a champion. I think he’s just pointing out something that he sees as absurd.

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
9:50 pm

Deep South-I agree that the debt outliers are extremely dangerous…especially since it’s closer to $70 Trillion than $14 Trillion by some estimates

http://www.usdebtclock.org/ It’s $14.88T(already) with a total of $116T already promised. Why don’t we just send everyone a check fo a $1 million and call it a day?

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
9:51 pm

Bobbybilly,

Just for you delusional Carter-bashers…(Rubbing this in your faces will never get old!)

Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents, more than 61 percent of the historians concluded that his presidency was the worst in the nation’s history. Another 35 percent of the historians surveyed rated the Bush presidency in the 31st to 41st category, while only four of the 109 respondents ranked the current presidency as even among the top two-thirds of American administrations.

“George Bush has combined mediocrity with malevolent policies and has thus seriously damaged the welfare and standing of the United States,” wrote one of the historians, echoing the assessments of many of his professional colleagues. “Bush does only two things well,” said one of the most distinguished historians. “He knows how to make the very rich very much richer, and he has an amazing talent for f**king up everything else he even approaches. His administration has been the most reckless, dangerous, irresponsible, mendacious, arrogant, self-righteous, incompetent, and deeply corrupt one in all of American history.”

Own him, Bushbots. He’s yours…

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 26th, 2011
9:52 pm

Deep South,

He is absurd.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:52 pm

Billy Bob,

Did he collapse the global economy, start two occupations, said he never saw anything coming like 9/11, outed a CIA agent, etc…?

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:52 pm

JKL2

I’ll take cash, if that’s ok with you.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
9:52 pm

deep south outlaw,
in 2008 sir……..

amvet,
hitler reference and then the ‘intellectually superior’ lib template……nice job……put those two together and it may get you a nickel…….or possibly a job in hussein’s re-election campaign……

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:53 pm

Recon

I dream of being absurd then. In fact, make it a double. Stark raving mad with a tendency to wear bad wigs and pointy shoes.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
9:55 pm

cons got trump .

Mr. bankruptcy birther..

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:55 pm

Billybob

I was an avid fan of Hilary. She was the second smartest person in the Clinton WH, a few terms as US Senator and it would cause “El Rush Bo” to have a stroke. That’s winning in ways that Charlie Sheen could not even imagine.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
9:57 pm

This, however, is the money shot about your favorite worst ever, billy:

In the wake of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the United States enjoyed enormous support around the world. President Bush squandered that goodwill by taking the country into an unnecessary war of choice and misleading the American people to gain support for that war. And he failed utterly to have a plan to deal with Iraq after the invasion. He further undermined the international reputation of the United States by justifying torture.

Mr. Bush inherited a sizable budget surplus and a thriving economy. By pushing through huge tax cuts for the rich while increasing federal spending at a rapid rate, Bush transformed the surplus into a massive deficit. The tax cuts and other policies accelerated the concentration of wealth and income among the very richest Americans. These policies combined with unwavering opposition to necessary government regulations have produced the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Then there is the incredible shrinking dollar, the appointment of incompetent cronies, the totally inexcusable failure to react properly to the disaster of Hurricane Katrina, the blatant disregard for the Constitution—and on and on.

Like a majority of other historians who participated in this poll, my conclusion is that the preponderance of the evidence now indicates that, while this nation has had at least its share of failed presidencies, no previous presidency was as large a failure in so many areas as the current one.

Got any similar nuggets about Carter?

LOL over and over again…

Peter

October 26th, 2011
9:58 pm

OK to the election…….

The thoughts…..

So far the bad guys are dead…… Bin Laden and Omar, and no new Wars have started.

We Know the deficit was huge when we began, but folks are going back to work in America.

Yes add some taxes, cut some loop holes. towards the balance of the budget, then continue the rebuilding of US infrastructure.

Focus on Solar / Wind for alternative energy so then Nuclear will not be a poison in the future.

The overall costs have been declining rapidly, and will continue to do so as the technology advances.

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
9:59 pm

taxpayer- The Republicans are going to have to quit their whining and pick their candidate eventually and they have so many left to vote off the island before their weiner is crowned.

Check out this group of “winners” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIYfu6RIZoE&feature=related

Note the first one dropped out in January. I don’t understand why you Demwits are in such a hurry to get an a$$ kicking.

PS: it’s a shame Hillary didn’t win. At least she had something more going for her than being “articulate’ and the color of her skin.

josef

October 26th, 2011
9:59 pm

I’m out…g’night

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
9:59 pm

Peter

I agreed with everything but “but folks are going back to work in America”

Employment is still stagnant

getalife

October 26th, 2011
10:01 pm

Deep South Outlaw ,

I am a big Hillary fan too.

Just the karma of the Clintons back in the White House would have been great.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
10:02 pm

PS: it’s a shame Hillary didn’t win.

What possible difference would that make?

The global economy would still have collapsed and you silly cons would be blaming her instead of Obama.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
10:03 pm

I think you LP has a scratch in it, billy.

Either that or you really do live in that echo chamber I’ve read about.

getalife, to your point, we have one of the world’s great philanthropists and a paragon of modesty and quiet family man.

The cons adore that birther nutjob, tawdry TV clown, con artist and serial philanderer.

It epitomizes the difference…

getalife

October 26th, 2011
10:03 pm

“the color of her skin.”

Take your race card to kyles.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 26th, 2011
10:05 pm

Deep South,

If that brings you wealth and happiness, God bless! Bluffet has been a highly successful investor or a gambler in our market system. He’s never started up a company that’s produced a product or has really contributed anything toward technical innovation in America. He is what he is and by no means an American hero. He’s a Democrat and thus a hero for the left but isn’t anyone special for main stream America.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
10:06 pm

“It epitomizes the difference…”

Their character has really gone downhill.

trump let daffy stay on his property.

Just a horrible unpatriotic publicity stunt.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
10:06 pm

getalife,
try again you are 0 for 4 unless you read the old huffington post or hack-sites like that…..

amvet,
historians ,acting as journalists, ranking anything says nothing except that they are breaking the number one journalism ethics rule by inserting themselves into the story……….throwing random polls out there without describing the history of views of those ranking something is useless…..this does highlight how the liberal media tries to shape public opinion instead of reporting ON public opinion…..see how easy it is to dissect liberalism……the days of free reign for liberals in media and information is over thanks to people like me who will now speak up and enlighten people to your ilk’s deceits and manipulations that for years went unchecked…..

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
10:07 pm

getalife- Did he collapse the global economy, start two occupations, said he never saw anything coming like 9/11, outed a CIA agent, etc…?

1: I know obama likes to think of himself as “world president” but President Bush never had that aspiration.

2: occupations? Like Germany?

3: He was working on the problem at the time. Clinton had decimated the Army and our intelligence agencies because he was afraid they would be used against him. (ever hear of MoveOn.org?)

4: Hard to out someone who had already done it herself. I believe the blame fell on Scooter Libby.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:07 pm

Well, it’s been another groundhog day at bookman’s. That’s OK because you never know when some of these cons are going to wake up and see the light. Unfortunately, most are just zombies for the rich, what a crew permanently trapped in their own dark age….

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
10:10 pm

amvet,
unchecked unchecked……unchecked……unnnnnnncheeeeeeeeeeeeecked…..i’ll play along

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:10 pm

Recon

I have no idea if he’s indeed a “hero of the Left”. From my point of view, he’s the boy that played the game better. But if he’s a bad actor for his success…as I am guessing is your point, isn’t that sort of dirty pool to attack him for it since those on the Right are always going on about how the Left hates those with wealth?

Not trying to second guess your logic, rather I am attempting to understand it.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
10:10 pm

jk,

You are a joke.

So blinded and brainwashed by ideology you can’t even admit the economy collapsed on w’s watch.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
10:12 pm

Mick,

It does get old and they will never wake up but other Americans might be reading so it is worth a try to wake them up.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
10:12 pm

Billy, tsk, tsk, tsk.

How many polls and surveys do you need??

I have never seen one, and I’ve seen more than a few, where Bush is even remotely close to Carter in the rankings.

Have you?

Nope.

Because it does not exist. (Excluding the one in your mind.)

So I presume your “position” is that all of those otherwise reputable lists, comprised by reputable institutions are ALL wrong and YOU alone are correct?

No sale.

You’ve been punked bu the neo-cons once again.

Own it, Jimmy mops the floor with your boy, George…

MiltonMan

October 26th, 2011
10:15 pm

Jay, don’t bank on it.

We cons never thought you libs would nominate a community organizer for pres.

getalife

October 26th, 2011
10:15 pm

Never give up like the gop wants to do with their default.

We are Americans and we don’t quit like the gop.

We are better than that failed corrupt party and have a opportunity for change right now.

Keep fighting.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:16 pm

getalife

Yes, you are correct, keep hammering away until the job is finished….

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 26th, 2011
10:16 pm

Oh well the bolsheviks are fluttering around this evening albeit in disarray, however, in their usual form of denial. The left is in serious decline and that’s a good thing in America.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:17 pm

milton

Errr….I do believe he was a US senator…

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:17 pm

MiltonMan

I’ll see you one community organizer and I’ll raise you one tired old Senator with no charisma, no plan, but it was his “turn” (Dole)

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
10:18 pm

AmVet- Got any similar nuggets about Carter?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misery_index_(economics)

This is an area I truly believe obama could become the greatest at.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
10:20 pm

Of course, the fake conservatives won’t admit they brought this country to the brink of complete collapse under George Bush.

Haven’t you heard? He’s one of the greatest presidents ever and was just trying to undo the massive destruction left behind by Jimmy Carter!

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:20 pm

recon

The wind is at our back, your side just might get walloped next november. Congress is at 9% approval, the party of no will not be trusted with governing, because they are incapable…

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:21 pm

Recon

No response? Or am I one of the alleged Bolsheviks? Bonus points for knowing your left wing from your right, but my grandfather was a child in those years. Little chance I could have danced at that shindig, either way.

Jm

October 26th, 2011
10:22 pm

Another tale of: government work is yum yum good

Bloomberg

Oct. 26 (Bloomberg) — Jean Keller earned $269,810 last year working as a nurse at a men’s prison on California’s central coast by tripling her regular pay with overtime hours.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
10:23 pm

mick,
you ever get hired for a job by a poor person…………class warfare template warning……when that’s all you have at the moment i understand, but in the end that’s a loser for you and the radical left…….and will cement a long vacation from leading this country for the dems….it’s funny how moderates have jumped ship and how the radical left is going down swinging….i don’t blame them and i encourage them to keep talking, please!!!

Butch Cassidy

October 26th, 2011
10:23 pm

Question: How can you tell which Republican candidate will not get the nomination from their party?

Answer: It’s the one polling highest at any given time.

:)

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
10:23 pm

That’s it?

I list several, but certainly not all, of the gargantuan Bush F&ck Ups and you post a wiki link about the misery index?

Find a white flag, before you get hurt.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 26th, 2011
10:24 pm

The comrades find hope and change on Jay’s blog but reality escapes them. Pleasant dreams comrades. Taps

MiltonMan

October 26th, 2011
10:25 pm

Here is one of many, many articles (from the SF Gate of all places) discussing what a moron Carter was and still is today:

Author Steven F. Hayward, who has labeled Carter the “worst ex-president” certainly thinks so. In his book, “The Real Jimmy Carter: How Our Worst Ex-President Undermines American Foreign Policy, Coddles Dictators and Created the Party of Clinton and Kerry,” Hayward runs down the ways in which America continues to reap the legacy of Carter’s missteps, both during his presidential term and after.

When it comes to the belligerence of North Korea, Carter’s past involvement has done considerable damage. In the early 1990s, Carter traveled to North Korea on another of his “peacekeeping missions” and brokered a deal with dictator Kim Il Sung. He did so without the blessing of the Clinton administration, although, at the behest of then-Vice President Al Gore, President Clinton later agreed to adopt Carter’s deal. The United States ended up providing aid, oil and, incredibly, material for building light-water nuclear reactors to the North Koreans in exchange for their abandoning their nuclear weapons program. The problem is they didn’t abandon their nuclear weapons program; they just said they did. And in 2002, they admitted as much. Still, to this day, Carter claims that his approach was a success and that it was President Bush’s inclusion of North Korea in the famous “axis of evil” speech that led to current leader Kim Jong Il’s hostility toward America.

Jm

October 26th, 2011
10:25 pm

Deep south 9:34

We’re already looking at financial he’ll

Growth will not bail us out this time

It will have to be done with old fashioned spending cuts and tax increases

Butch Cassidy

October 26th, 2011
10:26 pm

Why don’t the Republicans just pull out the old Ronald Reagan puppet from the 80’s and run that up against Obama? Seriously, it couldn’t do a worse job than the current batch, and it might actually give Obama a run for his money.

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
10:28 pm

Boys, George had more f&ck ups in his first 100 days than Jimmy did in four years.

Then he really got rolling…

I know you rubes voted for him twice, but still.

Admit you screwed up really bad and just move on…

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
10:28 pm

getalife- Their character has really gone downhill. trump let daffy stay on his property

http://www.punditpress.com/2011/02/maummar-gaddafi-tied-to-rev-jeremiah.html

Looks like “daffy” and obama’s paster were buds. I guess it wouldn’t matter since obama didn’t listen to anything the man said for 20 years. Moral of the story: obama doesn’t listen…

For such an “educated” man it’s amaizing how he doesn’t learn.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
10:28 pm

mick,
once again a branding issue and if hussein shapes the conversation correctly people will side with him and his horrible policies……just like healthcare, huh…….been there done, that….try again lib…….too easy

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:28 pm

Jm

I agree with you on parts, but growth has to be a factor or we’re looking at a Greece type situation. If you hold that it’s at that point now, then the ship is sunk either way.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:29 pm

billybob

That’s a silly question and has nothing to do with our economics although if it makes you feel good – use it. The problem is that the wealthy class has convinced a bunch of rubes to protect their interests and they are the ones who don’t give a hoot about you. In reality they are job destroyers because all they are interested in is more money. So, they ship it all to communist china ore wherever they can make an extra buck and while your wage either is stagnant or diminishes, you say, “thank you sir may I have another?” Sad but true…..

MiltonMan

October 26th, 2011
10:30 pm

Why compare Carter to Bush Jr? They are both losers and history currently shows them as such. This is a same argument as saying that Wassermann is better looking than Pelosi. Both are butt ugly.

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
10:32 pm

getalife- So blinded and brainwashed by ideology you can’t even admit the economy collapsed on w’s watch

No. I think you’ll find it all started going to he!! about the time the Demwits took control of congress. The worst of Bush (tarp, med D) is what you call the best of obama (obamacare, stimulous 1,2,3, working on 4)

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:33 pm

I think Recon tapped. Kinda disappointed. Was looking forward to hearing his logic on Buffett. Good night all. Back to lurking tomorrow.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
10:34 pm

mick,
i guess that’s the mindset of someone who’s top advisor is a marketer……..it’s not the policies, stupid, it’s the branding of those socialist policies that are causing them to fail and not the actual failure of those said policies……my guess is the libs are learning a little something this evening fellow conservatives…..

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:35 pm

deep south

Logic and recon really is not all that compatible….

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
10:36 pm

Milton and fellow Carter bashers,

Good that you gave up when you were behind.

http://tinyurl.com/3l92uty

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:36 pm

billybob

Why don’t you cut to the chase and name some of these “socialist policies?”

Jm

October 26th, 2011
10:36 pm

Deep 10:28
Doesn’t have to be (sunk)

If politicians won’t cut spending (dems) they must be forced to raise taxes

Go back to pre bush rates, close loopholes, reform entitlements, and cut current spending from 24% to 21% (pre Obama spending level) and we’re done

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
10:36 pm

getalife- We are Americans and we don’t quit

I thought you wanted to turn us into a good country like France? The world leader in surrendering.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:38 pm

Mick

Maybe, undoubtedly you’ve exchanged more with him than I have. I try hard to keep an open mind and exam issues from both sides as no one is every 100% and I haven’t seen too many instances of anyone being 100% wrong.

Jm

October 26th, 2011
10:38 pm

Deep south
And I have to reemphasize
Growth isn’t going to happen. Period

So no more stimulus. No more crazy ideas. No BS “hope”.

We need just old fashioned budget balancing and we need it now.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:39 pm

I omitted “right” after the first 100%..sorry, tired.

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
10:39 pm

Mick- I do believe he was a US senator

Who did nothing for a couple years before he started campaigning (kind of like he’s doing now).

Carol Mosely Braun had more experience and I’m completely embarrassed to even bring up her name.

Jm

October 26th, 2011
10:40 pm

“….now”

But punt and change keeps putting off doing anything about the deficit

Vote Romney 2012

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:40 pm

deep south

I don’t really have a problem with recon aside from the fact that I disagree with his ideology. Just having a little fun by getting in a few digs…

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
10:41 pm

mick,
it’s a simple question….one word…….if you can’t answer, shouldn’t you be in centennial park right about now complaining about people who have things that you wish to take from them b/c you deserve the same things…….is that equalization of outcome……redistribution……socialism…….the new democratic way led by the socialist in the white house……this mindset will lose in a landslide in 2012…..keep talking please…..

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:41 pm

jkl

So, that’s why your a herman cain fan, all that gov’t experience, right?

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
10:42 pm

AmVet- Of course, the fake conservatives won’t admit they brought this country to the brink of complete collapse under George Bush

He wasn’t conservative. That was the problem. (Ever heard of the Tea Party?)

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2011
10:42 pm

You conned picked McCain who then picked SayRah as his running mate. That pretty much sums up the GOP’s incapabilities. Now you’re set to give us something worse than a re-run. You’d be better off just picking McCain again and praying that he picked a better candidate for VP the second time around.

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:43 pm

Jm

To take the position of no future growth is akin to saying that our country is “done”. Which makes us a very large and troublesome Greece scenerio. If that is the case, no future course of action will make any difference other than a massive reset. Which means we could elect a blind cat with one leg and still get the same results.

TaxPayer

October 26th, 2011
10:44 pm

Ever heard of the Tea Party?

What ever happened to those folks. Did the Koch crooks quit funding them after they started telling their candidates to keep their paws off their Medicare.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
10:45 pm

define ’spread the wealth’ for me mick….straight from the horses mouth……another easy question

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:46 pm

billbob

You know not of what you talk. I had the great fortune to live in the US circa 1950″s, you know what the tax rate for the wealthy was? 90% over a certain income, was that wealth redistribution too? You guys are so flaky when it comes to the rich, another 3 or 5% tax to them is zero, nothing, nada. Yeah they’ll complain but in the end they can afford it. Am I requesting all of their wealth – NO. You and your crony’s can’t get that wrapped around your thick skulls….

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
10:46 pm

Author Steven F. Hayward, who has labeled Carter the “worst ex-president” certainly thinks so.

A fellow at the conservative AEI doesn’t like Carter?

I’ll act shocked and awed if it will make you feel any better.

:shock:

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
10:49 pm

Deep South- I agree with you on parts, but growth has to be a factor or we’re looking at a Greece type situation

California dreams of becoming as financially solvent as Greece some day. Demwit utopia: share the pain.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
10:49 pm

you’ll hear from them again in nov 2012 taxpayer….just like nov 2010……nice Lib 101 name-calling….feel like i’m back in 2nd grade with all the lib name-calling….it’s fun to see and hear….

Deep South Outlaw

October 26th, 2011
10:51 pm

JKL2

Share the pain or every man for himself? Those sum up the options, dont they?

Mick

October 26th, 2011
10:54 pm

The iced tea party? You mean all those grumpy leftovers from the mccain/palin rally’s? Inconsequential at this point, maybe they’ll regroup to simmer another day in an off year non- presidential election. Truthfully, that movement is all but dead, especially after the debt limit debacle, they cannot govern…

Jm

October 26th, 2011
11:02 pm

Deep 10:43

Not true
You’re grasping at the straw of hope for growth

It will not bail us out this time, let go of it

We have to do it the old fashioned way this time

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
11:03 pm

Mick- So, that’s why your a herman cain fan, all that gov’t experience, right?

Not sure he’s the man. The computer quiz Kyle had last week said he was my guy. Still too early for make to make a decision. I can tell you I have voted against obama three time and predict that trend will continue.

At least he’s ran something before. obama had never had to make a decision on anything before he became president. I like my leaders to have leadership experience. obama is still a scared little boy hiding in the corner and he’s been in charge for three years.

My 10 year old daughter has more leadershop skills than obama.

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
11:04 pm

mick,
take all the rich people’s wealth and it doesn’t even come close to beginning to solve our problems….just a drop in the bucket and all libs here know that it’s a straw-man argument, but it has worked great for chavez and many banana-republic dictators…..the only way to fix this problem is serious cuts and to unleash the private sector to generate more revenue…..your ilk want to create exponentially more debt while taking more money from the private sector which will cripple the only engine of growth this country posses……hussein policies of central gov’t planning are destroying this country and since you have been here since the 50’s you have seen this song and dance before, whether you will acknowledge it or not……three years of hussein attacking and lambasting the private sector and the wealthly have led to what…….the brink of riots in the streets…..that will help solve things……three percent more in taxes on the wealthy does nothing sir, except give hussein’s central gov’t planning policies more money to distribute that will create nothing except more debt……….

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
11:05 pm

We have to do it the old fashioned way this time

You’re a still wet behind the ears weaned on trickle-down naif.

Old fashioned?

Too funny

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
11:06 pm

taxpayer- What ever happened to those folks?

Did you miss the 2010 elections? They kicked a$$ and took names. Expect more of that in 2012.

1811/0311

October 26th, 2011
11:07 pm

bman

October 26th, 2011
11:07 pm

7AM – 10PM …long day at work. Under this administration, I am working double & making 1/2 of what I used to make. I hate to blame the Obama administration because, that means I would then have to give the Bush and Clinton administration credit for (I did well under both). .

If the slowdown hasn’t hit you yet, just wait….it will. Hey brother, can you spare a dime?

AmVet

October 26th, 2011
11:08 pm

He wasn’t conservative.

OF COURSE, he wasn’t!

It was patently obvious back in 2000! But you boys sure were singing a different tune then, remember?

And guess what? Virtually all of these frauds in the hijacked, hemorrhaging GOP are not either.

And there’s the rub; and the primary reason this republic is reeling backwards.

The neo-cons, and frankly the nation, desperately needs a conservative intervention.

OK, I’ve got a very early meeting in the AM.

We shall take up this “debate’ later, gentlemen.

Until then…

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
11:09 pm

kamchak,
your naivety is priceless……keep fighting for the radical democratic way…..you help conservatism in a big way…..must get some sleep so i can get up tomorrow and earn some money that the radical democrats will cry about and want to take from me b/c it’s not fair……..re-visiting elementary school when debating liberals is always a hoot…..good night all

Billybob

October 26th, 2011
11:11 pm

amvet,
the conservative intervention started with brown and continued through nov 2010 and will continue through nov 2012 and you will have your wish…..

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
11:11 pm

deep south- Share the pain or every man for himself? Those sum up the options, dont they?

No. The goal is to be prosperous and then help those less fortunate. OWS is about steal from the rich to give to the poor (IE. nobody wins)

Give a man a fish, he eats for today. Teach him to fish, he eats for a lifetime. Quit trying to steal my fish so you can hand them out.

Kamchak

October 26th, 2011
11:12 pm

good night all

Toodles, Billy-poo.

Mick

October 26th, 2011
11:15 pm

billybob seems like you’ve never made it out of elementary school because you’ve certainly been schooled tonight. All that wealth envy smokescreen is a waste of time – no one is buying that canard…

JKL2

October 26th, 2011
11:30 pm

mick- All that wealth envy smokescreen is a waste of time – no one is buying that canard…

OWS says,”What?” It’s the basis of their movement….

Mick

October 26th, 2011
11:36 pm

No – you say it is their basis. I think they are making noise about the gamblers on wall street who committed the crime of the century and got away with it. Let’s face it, many people walked away with fortunes while the little guy lost their jobs. Damn straight there is anger about that and rightfully so….

1811/0311

October 27th, 2011
12:29 am

“OCCUT*RD” ALERT:

Headline (New York Times): “Cities Crack Down on ‘Occupy’ Protests”

“After weeks of cautiously accepting the teeming demonstrations spawned by Occupy Wall Street, several cities have come to the end of their patience.”

granny godzilla

October 27th, 2011
5:33 am

Newt?

oh please oh please oh please

in fact

double dog oh please

bman

October 27th, 2011
5:48 am

AJC Headline “Metro jobless rate stuck at 10.3%”

The article should be about the “hope and change cheerleader” the nation turned to…

BADA BING

October 27th, 2011
6:28 am

Help Wanted
People needed to staff ‘Occupy Wall Street’
$100 per day /$10 per hour
Apply at ACORN

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
6:29 am

NATIONAL NEWS HEADLINE:Gap between U.S. rich, poor is widest in Atlanta

The article IS about why we still need hope and change.

Obama/Biden 2012

Hell yes we can.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
6:32 am

Help Wanted

People needed to undermine ‘Occupy Wall Street’

Unpaid intern position

Apply with Andy Brietbart, James O’Keefe or Evan Coyne Maloney

Jimmy62

October 27th, 2011
6:33 am

Not a big Newt fan, but I will say he’s the only one with a really good grasp of space policy, and the vision to take us in to a future where humans live there.

Jm

October 27th, 2011
6:38 am

Space policy?

There won’t be a space policy unless we get our fiscal house in order. As a matter of fact, there won’t be any policies….

USinUK

October 27th, 2011
6:38 am

ahem … OH, SNAP!!

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/paul-ryan-heritage-foundation-speech-6530510

Sentence No. 1: pure Ayn Rand. “Makers vs. takers.” Moochers and leeches. You and Them. But especially Them. But not in a divisive way. Oh, no. The Congressman doesn’t believe in divisive class rhetoric. He said so — “To my great disappointment, it appears that the politics of division are making a big comeback. Many Americans share my disappointment…” — earlier in his remarks. And he is not engaging in the politics of division himself. Oh, no. He’s just sad — mournful, even — that the “conceits of liberalism” are on their way to dividing the country into “makers versus takers.” And you know who you are, don’t you? And who They are. And what They are taking… from You.

worth the read …

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
6:39 am

“Gingrich, a longtime supporter of space research, said the private sector and not government should lead the nation into the future of space innovation.”

(http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/06/republican-presidential-candidates-agree-no-more-federal-money-for-human-space-flight/)

and

On the seventh anniversary of the Columbia disaster, President Obama unveiled a sweeping change of course for the nation’s space program Monday, putting an end to NASA’s post-Columbia moon program and shifting development and operation of new rockets and capsules from the government to private industry.

(http://news.cnet.com/8301-19514_3-10445227-239.html)

Jimmy 62

Newt’s the only one?

AmVet

October 27th, 2011
6:42 am

All the king’s horses and all the king’s men could not put this wrecked economy back together again.

Not in three scant years.

Dig in peeps, the middle class LOST ground in the “lost decade” o f2000 – 2010.

For those keeping count, that is four decades in a row of flat-lined income for most of us.

And you really expect this one to be a bed of roses?

And you really think that had the president had an R after his name, things would be all on their way to Groovyville now?

But here’s the kicker.

The most myopic and willfully stupid of you cannot figure out what all the fuss on Wall Street and elsewhere is all about.

No worries. Sit at home, suck your thumbs and suck up to the plutocrats. Others will take the lead…

Normal

October 27th, 2011
6:53 am

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:01 am

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:07 am

China looks at OWS and sees why America is failing. People asking for handouts instead of finding and making work.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
7:08 am

First we hear Steve Jobs warned President Obama he’d be a one termer if he wasn’t more business friendly.

The right cheered.

Then we heard Steve Jobs was excitedly looking forward to supporting President Obama in 2012 and wanted to do some ads for him.

The right ignored it.

Now we hear what Steve Jobs said about Fox news….

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
7:11 am

Would that be the same China that is currently censoring the term “occupy” from the intertubes?

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:11 am

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:07 am

Well then. Instead of pointing fingers, offer solutions. Yes, solutions would be nice.

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:12 am

Granny. You don’t get it.

Here’s a guy (jobs) who supported Obama. And HE told him he’s about to be a 1 termer. Point is a supporter told him he is about to lose.

If you didn’t have all the facts at hand earlier, that’s your problem. Conservatives knew this but apparently you didn’t. Get over it.

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:13 am

Normal
I do that every day on this blog

It’s pretty simple math. Cut spending, raise taxes by reducing deductions.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
7:17 am

JM

I get it, got it, had it, embraced it, understood it, been there done that.

Steve Jobs supported Barack Hussien Obama for President in 2012.

Get it?

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:18 am

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:13 am

Explain to me how that would create jobs…I just must be dense, because I don’t see it.

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:18 am

OFA sends me email about student loan mod

I say they should go to jail for breaking the law and doing this prior to 2014

They say: thanks for your input.

:) . Autoreply should probably be smarter

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:21 am

Normal
It won’t create jobs in the short term

It will balance the budget and prevent calamity and massive unemployment in the future

(granny, if you want to point out the fact that the earth rotates eastward, then have at it. Thanks for pointing out the obvious)

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:23 am

Ok outta here for a while cheerio

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
7:24 am

Jm

Any comments on Jobs’ comment on Fox?

I mean a superstar business stud says what he said about Fox,,,,,

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:27 am

jm,
“It will balance the budget and prevent calamity and massive unemployment in the future”.

Again, you are going to have to show me how. It sounds like a “talking point” to me.

Mad Max

October 27th, 2011
7:29 am

“He travels with more baggage than a 100-piece marching band.

Who cares? We survived Bill Clintons and JFK’s antics and the left has notoriosly told us that what people do in their private lives doesn’t matter . We need someone who knows the difference between campaigning and leading. All we’ve got now is Mr. Lollypop promising everyone something whith no clue how to get it implemented or how to pay for it. Newt’s feasible and he will be able to expose the great pretender in the white house for who he is in a debate.

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
7:32 am

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:34 am

Mad Max

October 27th, 2011
7:29 am

Bless your pea pickin’ little heart.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
7:34 am

Imagine that campaign bumber sticker

“Newt’s Feasible”

Inspires something don’t it.

Mad Max

October 27th, 2011
7:35 am

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
7:32 am
It’s early- where did Obama stand at this same relative time against a hugely unpopular president?

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:36 am

Stands,

Wow! Fox News would have whipped out a pencil eraser….

Jay

October 27th, 2011
7:36 am

USinUK, that is VERY well done. Everyone should go read it.

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:37 am

Granny G,

I like “Noot’s a Poot”…

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
7:40 am

The right ignored it.

Now we hear what Steve Jobs said about Fox news….

GG, jm’s iPostgarbage app needs an update, apparently.

Mad Max

October 27th, 2011
7:40 am

Normal & Granny – Are you doing this from OWS ? So intelligent……

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
7:43 am

Mad Max

Candidate Obama was 20 points behind Candidate Clinton.

I hope you do all you can do for Newt’s campaign!

Mad Max

October 27th, 2011
7:45 am

Granny, just goes to show you that anyone can win against a hugely unpopular opresident so don’t be so dismissive.

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
7:45 am

Jay, UnU, yeah it’s a good read.

But I’ll just say this–I already caught a bite of that speech on last night’s news. I heard something that sounded like “it appears that the politics of division are making a big comeback.” Mostly I heard “division.”

and all I could think was “you Koch sucking SOB, you’re standing there telling me about ‘divisiveness’ standing in front of a m-fing Heritage Foundation logo!”

I didn’t actually *say* it because the kid was within earshot, of course.

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:45 am

MAD MAX,
WOW!!! What a come back! I stand truly humbled…NOT!

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
7:45 am

Mad Max

Are you doing this from the 700 club? Club for Growth?
Freedom works? Heritage ? Club Voyeur in West Hollywood?

Adam

October 27th, 2011
7:46 am

USinUK: I love it!

And he is not engaging in the politics of division himself. Oh, no. He’s just sad — mournful, even — that the “conceits of liberalism” are on their way to dividing the country into “makers versus takers.” And you know who you are, don’t you? And who They are. And what They are taking… from You.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
7:47 am

Mad Max

Dismissive?

Try realistic.

Newt will never be President.

Bank on it.

Normal

October 27th, 2011
7:48 am

Clinton was a very popular President to all except Republicans…same for Obama. The Republicans don’t like American Workers much either. That is why they are going to get shellacked in 2012.

Adam

October 27th, 2011
7:48 am

USinUK: (Let us pause briefly here to point out that anyone who takes Ayn Rand seriously at Paul Ryan’s age desperately needs to get out in the fresh air and sunshine more.)

AHAHAHA!

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
7:48 am

Mad Max @ 7.35, if you want an orange:orange comparo, it’d make more sense to look at how first-term presidents polled against oppo-party challengers at this point in their term.

I certainly recall that Walter Mondale was looking pretty good against Reagan for awhile. Remind me, how’d the Gipper do after his Gallup approvals had bottomed out at 37% during his first term, again?

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
7:51 am

as to the headline–and even though Jay already Tweeted this–

woot woot woot.

Mad Max

October 27th, 2011
7:54 am

Stands – Obama is not Reagan. Reagan had a vision he could articulate that reached accross all spectrums of society and he pulled us out of the Carter years. Obama is a broken record and he is pulling us down into the depths of despair. Big difference.

Jm

October 27th, 2011
7:59 am

I think the esquire piece is comical in it’s lack of analytical heft

Just more leftist hyperbole

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
8:00 am

Reagan had a vision he could articulate

Yeah, that’s Obama’s big problem. Terrible orator. Yeah, you can probably run Newt and win in 2012.

Jm

October 27th, 2011
8:01 am

Granny
I’m sure jobs had plenty of bad things to say about Fox. Fine by me but I haven’t read them

Feel free to provide a link, I may catch it later…. Out

TaxPayer

October 27th, 2011
8:02 am

Obama is pulling the Republican down into the depths of despair. Sounds like a familiar tune from the conned. Take another swig, Mad Max. You’ll be okay.

Mad Max

October 27th, 2011
8:05 am

Stands – Believe it or not, it is. The only one’s who still believe he is a good orator are his believers. At one time I believed he was, but he’s grown smaller in office. I now see a whiny guy who tries to blame his lack of effectiveness on everyone else. We had a guy like that here in my office as Sr. of OPs. Big, articulate, everyone believed him. Two years later, he’s no longer here, cleared out his desk one Friday night..

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
8:06 am

Mad Max

Bless your heart!

You love you some tax raising, deficit raising, terrorist negotiating,
unemployment creating, government growing, illegal amnesty giving,
arms selling Reagan.

Isn’t that special.

Mad Max

October 27th, 2011
8:08 am

Granny, Bless you too.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
8:09 am

Jm

Fell free to do your own homework.

It’s about personal responsibility.

philosopher

October 27th, 2011
8:10 am

“He travels with more baggage than a 100-piece marching band.

Who cares?

I think it quite funny that the uptight right who in the name of God, want to control the morals of all, including all women’s uteruses, sexual choice, and marriage as defined by a man and a woman, conveniently “forgive” the sexual promiscuity of thieir Republican slimeballs when they need them… soon after impeaching a Democrat for sexual promiscuity…situational ethics at it’s best.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
8:10 am

Mad Max

I am blessed and very very grateful.

Talking Head

October 27th, 2011
8:12 am

I would love to see Newt in a debate with Obama, it would be classic.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 27th, 2011
8:13 am

Stands – Believe it or not, I am going to make a claim for which I have absolutely no proof but if I say it as if it is fact, some will believe it. Of course it’s just my opinion which many would consider just another whine. it is . The only one’s who still believe he is a good orator are his believers. At one time I believed he was, but he’s grown smaller in office

Fixed that claim to be accurate! No thanks needed.

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
8:13 am

Believe it or not, it is. The only one’s who still believe he is a good orator are his believers.
Well, now you’re getting into incredibly subjective territory. For what it’s worth, Reagan always made me wince. I thought he sounded, at best, mean and nasty, and at worst, just mentally feeble. I never bought the “kindly old man” BS foisted by his apologists (although I’ve later come around to accept that he was probably not a terrible guy on a one-to-one level—and that’s only because I’ve heard his son talk about him often enough to convince me).

Point is, most Americans didn’t seem to share my personal dislike of that President. And I think you’ll find that most Americans don’t share your personal dislike of this one.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
8:15 am

Talking Head

Me too.

Is there a cream rule in debates?

They’d call it in the 5th inning for Obama….

USinUK

October 27th, 2011
8:16 am

“I would love to see Newt in a debate with Obama,”

the guy who threw a strop because of where he was sitting in AF1???

oh, yeah, he’d be a MASTER debater

:lol:

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:17 am

Mad Max: If you really think Obama ISN’T a skilled orator, you are delusional. And likely keep falling for the whole “teleprompter” meme as though other Presidents and high level people who make speeches never ever use them, or cards. Yes, cards are clearly much better, or something.

Really, if you actually listen to him he really does inspire with his speeches. That is true no matter what his approval numbers are, unless you have an irrational hatred and/or fear of the man.

Pat

October 27th, 2011
8:18 am

I remain bemused, and frankly, utterly flummoxed by your wild-eyed, child-like faith in the GOP electorate Jay. From whence doth it come?
You actually believe there is someone – anyone – too ridiculous for this group to nominate for the Presidency? And that would be based upon … what?
You do realize, do you not, that most of the overwheening criticism of the current crop of
candidates is that they’re not quite stupid enough, right? That it’s their occasional stumble into
sane sensibility that tarnishes them with the GOP electorate?
Jay, Jay, Jay. (Sigh.)

Donovan

October 27th, 2011
8:18 am

Gee, Mr. Bookman…who did you vote for in the past presidential elections? And you think that you are qualified to make an astute observation of character and judgement? Pleassssssse!

Newt is the most qualified of the GOP bunch. And his baggage is more offensive than the Democrat trash that has been offered by your side in the past decade?

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:19 am

stands: And I think you’ll find that most Americans don’t share your personal dislike of this one.

I disagree. He’ll find whatever he wants to find, and ignore the rest.

Personal approval at 72%? I thought you said he was personally moveable with 72% power….

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
8:19 am

“I would love to see Newt in a debate with Obama,”

[…] oh, yeah

I knew that one would make an appearance sooner or later. I love the collective amnesia; that so many have forgotten how Obama’s mettle has already been tested in such forums repeatedly seen by scores of millions of people.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
8:20 am

Donavan

Have you committed some of your hard earned wages to Newts campaign?

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
8:21 am

He’ll find whatever he wants to find, and ignore the rest.

all lies and jests
still a man sees what he want to see and disregards the rest

(there goes rhymin’ Simon again.)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 27th, 2011
8:21 am

Newt must have got someone on his staff to dredge up a few supporters this morning to attack Bookman, lol. Hopefully they’ll post fast before the field trip to Tiffany’s.

Tommy Maddox

October 27th, 2011
8:21 am

Isn’t it interesting that we delve only into the personal past[s] of the Republican candidates – past[s] I might add that have little to do with their ability to govern.

Eli Jones

October 27th, 2011
8:22 am

“BO MUST GO”

===================================

“The Obama / Soros’ Occupy Wallstreet Mob” / “Uganda ” / “Obama Giving Solyndra 535 Million Of Our Money”/ “Obama’s Fast And Furious Criminal Operation”/ “Obama Buying His Union Votes With Our Tax Money” / “Obama Empowering The Muslim Brotherhood” / ” Obama’s Hate Speech Provocations” / “Obama putting Muslim’s Rights Over All Other American’s Rights” / “Obama Ignoring North Korean Aggression” / “Obama’s Democrats Voting Against Auditing The Corrupt Federal Reserve Bank” / “Lopsided Nuke Deals” / “Obama’s Expensive & Unnecessary Trip To India” / “Obama’s Illegal Aunt Living Off Our Taxes” / “Obama Taking 500 Billion From Medicare And From Our Senior Citizens To Fund His Illegal’s On welfare”/ “Obama Having The Christian Crosses Covered Up At Notre Dame University For His Speech” / “Mosque At 9-11 Ground Zero”/ “Obama and Hillary calling in the UN to slam Arizona, 22 States & our nation’s laws”/ “Our Tax Money Being Used To Fund The Democrat Propagandist National Public Radio” / “Obamacare” / “Abortions paid for under Obamacare” / “Suing Arizona” / “Obama’s Wealth Redistribution” / “No Social Security Cost Of Living Increase For Retired Americans For Two Years”/ “Bailouts”/ “Bribes”/ “Obama’s & BP’s Mishandled Gulf Of Mexico Oil Aneurysm” / ” Cap & Trade Tax”/ “535 Billion Of Your Money Spent On Illegal’s Every Year” / “Obama’s 2.6 Trillion Amnesty” / “Economy Trashed By The Democrats” / “Democrat Voter Fraud” /” No Real Border Security Enforcement” / “Siding with the Marxist Zelaya in Honduras against the will of the people there” / “No Jobs” / “Beer Summit” / “Calling Our Returning Veterans Potential Terrorists” / “AG Holder setting the 9-11 terrorist trial just blocks from the 9-11 attack site” / “Calling Christians Potential Terrorists” / “Hands Holding Crotch During Pledge Of Allegiance” / “Rev Wright” / “Michelle” / “Massive & Reckless Spending” / “Harry Reid” / “Nancy Pelosi” / “Sestak”/”Obamacare Death Panels” / “Nationalizing Banks” / “Nationalizing US Industry” / “Obama’s Massive Stimulus Failure” /”Calling Tea Party Activist’s Racist’s” / “New Black Panther Party Thugs empowered by Obama’s AG Holder” / “Using the NAACP to spread Racist Propaganda” / “Obama’s Dept Of Justice Refusing To Prosecute Black Racist Discrimination Against White People”/ “ACORN” / “Dead People Voting As Democrats” / “Calling Terrorism A Man Made Disaster” / “Calling America a Muslim Nation” / “Obama Giving One Billion Of Your Money To The Hamas Terrorists Of Gaza”/ “Bowing to the Saudi king of Terror” / “The Obama Apology Tour” / “Obama’s Marxist Czars” / “Obama’s Muslim Czars advocating for Islamic Sharia Law in America” / “Obama mistreating our friends” / “Cap & Trade Tax” / “Obama’s Terrorist Appeasement” / “The Islamization Of NASA” / “Muslims exempted from Obamacare” / “Obama’s Mistreatment Of Israel”

Butch Cassidy

October 27th, 2011
8:23 am

Good morning from NYC Georgia, I see that it’s a bright and sunny 10.3% unemployment day down there. How’s Governor Deal and that status quo treating you this morning.

Oh, and before you start, Georgias UE rate is NOT Obamas fault.

Normal

October 27th, 2011
8:24 am

OH GAWD! Another right wing propagandist…how funny!

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
8:25 am

Eli Jones is taking Scout lessons!

Tommy Maddox….Yep those republicans Anthony Weiner, Elliott Spitzer and Bill Clinton were mega-delved…

OOPS!

Normal

October 27th, 2011
8:25 am

Mornin’ Butch,
How come y’all’s in Yankee land? :)

Tommy Maddox

October 27th, 2011
8:25 am

Gee – another blind sheep. How sad.

Donovan

October 27th, 2011
8:26 am

Paul @ 6:34 pm…

What’s with the jealousy thing against “ever-wealthier billionaires”? You seem to have that Democrap communist class envy thing down pretty well.

I do believe that living in this capitalist country with the dream of doing well and enjoying the fruits of our labor is what it is all about.

Get off your “ole poor me” butt and quit hating what the other side is enjoying.

Jealousy is a child’s game.

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:26 am

BTW anyone citing anything in Newt’s personal life: irrelevant. Newt and Huntsman are the only ones who can sound reasonable, and Huntsman actually IS reasonable. Mitt sounds angry sometimes and full of hot air the rest of the time. Perry can’t stay awake at a debate without enough Red Bulls to almost deck his opponent(s). Bachmann is a woman and won’t make it past a Republican primary simply because of that. Etc etc

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 27th, 2011
8:26 am

Yeah Tommy…that’s right. No one has ever discussed anything in Obama’s prior life. :roll: :roll: You must be making a early run for the silliest post of the day, right?

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
8:26 am

Newt must have got someone on his staff to dredge up a few supporters this morning to attack Bookman, lol.

Keep in mind that some who are in the AJC’s delivery area have the unique distinction among all 300+ million Americans of actually having voted for the guy at some point. (those outside his Congrefsional district, of course, mostly go “who was he, again?”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 27th, 2011
8:27 am

Morning Butch…. can you send me some good bagels this morning? :D

Peter

October 27th, 2011
8:28 am

Forget Newt.. the stock market always does best when a Democrat is in the White House, and beginning today we are going to take off.

I hope you folks have made prudent investments in strong US companies.

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:28 am

Eli Jones: HEADLINE: Obama turns 50 despite Republican opposition.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jimmy62

October 27th, 2011
8:28 am

Granny: There’s plenty of issues to be had with space policy as is right now, even if Obama did move some towards the right direction. The big problem now is that what funds we are giving to NASA have been diverted from exploration of the solar system to creating a new 30 year dead end called the SLS. Just like the Space Shuttle, it will take most of our space money to run a glorified taxi to low Earth orbit. It won’t get us any closer to colonizing space or exploring the solar system. Every major move towards actually getting humans living in space came from stuff not involving the Space Shuttle, which was 30 years of stagnation, and even retreat. And the SLS is more of the same. It makes for quicker PR for politicians, though.

Butch Cassidy

October 27th, 2011
8:28 am

Normal – “How come y’all’s in Yankee land?”

Moved up here about 15 years ago from the ATL. Still like to keep tabs on you though. It’s actually more interesting now, seems to be a LOT more people with their heads in the sand than there was back in th 90’s. Besides, the AJC posters seem to have cornered the “obozo” comments market.

Tommy Maddox

October 27th, 2011
8:28 am

Keep – other than Fox News, no.

USinUK

October 27th, 2011
8:28 am

“Obama’s Terrorist Appeasement”

if killing OBL and helping oust Gaddhafi is appeasement … please, sir, may I have some more???

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
8:29 am

Tommy

BAAAAAA-BAAAAA-humbug.

TaxPayer

October 27th, 2011
8:31 am

I think Eli dumped his load and ran away in hopes of escaping the fumes.

Granny Godzilla

October 27th, 2011
8:31 am

Jimmy62

Thank you for acknowledging Obama is moving in the right direction
on space policy.

GT

October 27th, 2011
8:31 am

Newt Gingrich is the triple option of politics. He has gotten farther with less appeal than maybe anyone in the history of politics. He moved around like a gypsy, gerrymandering Congressional seats in Georgia to find the soft spot in the electric that would send him to Washington. He then played to the rich man’s greed and became his man in Washington, protecting his interest. He used this money to make himself the speaker. He is totally disingenuous to the point that I wonder if he even believes what he says himself. He is exactly what is wrong with American in 2011. He takes up a lot of room, produces very little and gets paid a huge amount of money. By the way this is the man who fathered shutting down Washington with non-compromising positions when he was the speaker. Now he wants to restructure the judicial system in the same manner. What he can carry in a majority movement, which he has never had except in the Republican congress, he hijacks like a domestic terrorist. I wonder if he didn’t influence that last debate floor mate, where he could sit back say nothing and look like the winner. He is a genius at evil, exactly what some of this country seems to want.

Butch Cassidy

October 27th, 2011
8:35 am

Normal – “Morning Butch…. can you send me some good bagels this morning?”

Bagels Schmagels! Theres a fantastic French place on 12th called Resto Leon, BEST FRENCH TOAST IN THE WORLD!! I’ll ship some down. :)

Tom(Independent)

October 27th, 2011
8:35 am

Obama has bigger things to be concerned about than a debate with Newt. On the news I just heard the leader(Tim Franzen) of the Occupy ATL protest say he was a” Community Organizer”. He also is a convicted felon and paid by a liberal activist group. Apparently, most of the protesters are paid and not local citizens. I can see it now, two Community Organizers(Obama and Franzen) going head to head in the Democratic primary?

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
8:39 am

Apparently, most of the protesters are paid and not local citizens.

this is your brain on Fox News. Any questions?

Mick

October 27th, 2011
8:39 am

tom

Some would consider jesus a godlike community organizer…not a bad role model..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 27th, 2011
8:41 am

Tommy….now you do realize that claiming X is true and then when challenged saying….welll other than Y, X is true means than your first claim was false. Of course now you claim only Fox (which we have been told only has a very small viewership amongst certain people, right?) but you left out oh Brietbart, World Net Daily, and a host of others that I am not even going to list. Again, even with your qualifier, you are again wrong.

USinUK

October 27th, 2011
8:42 am

dB – it’s the “apparently” that I love … it adds that soupcon of naivite

stands for decibels

October 27th, 2011
8:45 am

that soupcon of naivete

or in keeping with the musical theme of this thread–a grace note, if you will.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 27th, 2011
8:47 am

Butch….don’t you mean “Freedom Toast”? :lol:

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:50 am

Tom: Apparently, most of the protesters are paid and not local citizens

Really? How do I get in on that? I wants me some handout!

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:50 am

Economy sheets!

DBCOOPER

October 27th, 2011
8:53 am

No Newt! No Newt! I want Obama!

Lets see how low we can go?

It’s like the Seinfeld eposode , when Cramer drove a car around on empty. Just to see how far he could go without running out of gas completely.

Isn’t this fun? How far down can Obama take us?

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:53 am

stands: I have heard the whole “The protesters are paid!” thing and when I ask for details so my friends who are unemployed can protest AND get paid, what do I get? Crickets.

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:55 am

DBCOOPER: How far down can Obama take us?

Apparently he can take us to a 2.5% growth in GDP over 2nd quarter 2001.

OH SNAP

Adam

October 27th, 2011
8:56 am

sorry, 2011, not 2001.

GT

October 27th, 2011
8:59 am

Tom Delay comes to mind when we speak of community organizers. He kept a poker game running all the time. I just couldn’t imagine Delay sleeping in a tent in a park, in cold weather, a little too raw for his style. He came to Washington for the power, and there ain’t no power in a tent anybody knows that.

DBCOOPER

October 27th, 2011
9:00 am

If Obama continues to give everybody a hand-out he will have completely covered the whole country.
Let’s see.
Big Banks / Wall Street
Automobile Industry
Unemployed
Homeowners (bought more house than they could afford) Banks were forced by government to lend.
Food Stamp increase by the millions
NOW student loans!

I agree. “THE CANDY MAN”

DBCOOPER

October 27th, 2011
9:01 am

Adam

2.5%

WOW!!! The country is doing so well. Just look around Pal! That’s a stretch.

Adam

October 27th, 2011
9:05 am

DBCOOPER: I see I provided a LINK to the next thread and you STILL want to post here in order to avoid criticism. Man up and join the CURRENT conversation.

Newtpewt

October 27th, 2011
9:24 am

Neo-con Newtron is likely to self-implode w/ the Electorate the more he opens his mouth.

GT

October 27th, 2011
9:27 am

It all starts with Wall Street which organizes the money. The same people that want local government send their hard earn money to a street in NY with very little knowledge of what happens to it and very little control of it. The assumption is there will be winners and losers in the general public. I know where the losers are, some live on my street, but none on Wall Street. It is a seesaw. When someone is losing money someone is making money. How many local people do you know making this money and how many local people do you know that have loss money. The only local people I know making money are helping the boys on Wall Street bring it in. This bail out started with Bush’s administration, just like the war in Iraq. And just like the war O needs to end this welfare to the rich and let nature take it course. If you control local money you will find local government will be empowered too. Follow the money.

barney strickland

October 27th, 2011
9:58 am

Jay, I think the problem with your opinion is that you assume people still regard Newt’s past personal issues as their paramount concern. I don’t agree. If that is true… Obama’s issues with…. Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko and the crooked land deal, his birth certificate/citizenship status, marxist ideology, drug abuse as a college student etc. …. and the American people were willing to elect him. Newt was at his height of power in US government when times were good AND he got 9 of 10 parts of the contract with america passed (except mandated congressional term limits -big suprise here). So, he has a proven track record of success and he’s wise enough now not to trust the print media to objectively report news such as the government shutdown in his show down with Clinton. I sure like his idea of a series of debates based on the model of the Lincoln-Douglas debates in 1859-1860…. 2 men debating issues for 3 hours…. no teleprompters or ear piece receivers. I think Newt would crush Obama !! Regardless of what you think about Newt, he deserves the chance!! Go Newt … GO!!

Donovan

October 27th, 2011
9:59 am

Eli Jones…very nice composite on the community organizer. Doesn’t it amaze you that all these very elite “progressives” with all their intellectual answers voted for and support this radical loser clown in the White House?

Oh, by the way Granny, while you are throwing away money on your poor choice for president, I am investing my large sums of money on Newt for the pleasure of letting him expose the deficiencies of your merry band of numb-skulls temporarily running this country.

barney strickland

October 27th, 2011
10:03 am

Enter your comments here

barney strickland

October 27th, 2011
10:05 am

oops I forgot…. Newt forced Clintons hand in passing welfare reform…. that alone should get him my vote!

GT

October 27th, 2011
10:06 am

O will eat Newt’s lunch. Newt frames the discussion to a populist theme and in the past has great emotional response from his party of minority thinkers. He and Rust L. come from the same school. The contrast of Obama who takes NG’s false assumptions and makes him eat them will be a great moment in the country. These great times for this country were drunken sailors on credit cards, the bill came due after the drunks left town, now the country has to pay the tap. That is the same kind of funny accounting that Enron and a lot of the Texas friends of Newt used. Look successful and fake it as long as you can and then leave without paying the bill.

Adam

October 27th, 2011
10:37 am

Fascinating how often the cons show up on only the OLD blog posts.

Chickens. Afraid to be challenged.

DBCOOPER

October 27th, 2011
1:12 pm

Adam

I don’t have time to get on some chat room with somebody that OBVIOUSLY doesn’t acknowledge the current predicament of the USA. I refuse to waste my time. I have something to say and I say it. The last thing I want to do is debate the dependant class. Besides I have work to do. Obviously you have plenty of time. Where are you ? Work? Probably at some Occupy Rally.

Save it for somebody that cares about your opinion. You’re probably beyond any debate. Sitting around waiting on your government check.

Up and away

October 27th, 2011
1:54 pm

No need to worry, Obama will get a second term. The Black Panthers, democrat Acorn rebirths, communist party of America and all his corrupt people are already working on stuffing the ballets. There is no way he wont win. This country is cursed.

And why is it that nobody that I know voted for Obama and why is it that 75% of Americans think he is doing a terrible job but the polls show him still winning? Where are these baseless polls coming from?

BTW, Newts my guy.
Romney cant debate against Obama because he cant nail the Healthcare plan as Obama care copies Romney care,
Perry is in love with illegals and giving them American money while Americans still have to pay.
Paul is just a nutcase
Cain wont have enough money and the GOP wont give him the nomination because the GOP is also afraid of Cain. Very very afraid.

So its Newt against Obama. Now Newt will tear up Obama in debates but will the GOP give him the NOD. I doubt it. The GOP is also very very afraid of Newt.

Adam

October 27th, 2011
2:02 pm

DBCOOPER: You made a ton of wrong assumptions about me, all based on the false idea that Obama is to blame for everything, and that because I don’t agree with you on that point I must be your fantasy stereotype demon of a person who thinks differently than you do. It’s like you’ve fallen for every possible logical fallacy in the book and called it reality.

The fact is, Obama is NOT to blame for everything that has gone wrong in the economy, or in every other sector of life. The fact is, I am not part of your imaginary “dependent class,” even if such a class existed (which it doesn’t).

I have something to say too, and I say it. But you post here hoping never to be challenged and afraid of anyone who doesn’t think like you do. Well I’m here, buddy, and I’m not going anywhere. BOOGAH BOOGAH! LIBRUL! SOSHULIZM! OOOO SCARY!

You fear what you make every consistent and active effort to NOT UNDERSTAND.

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Anne Cook

October 29th, 2011
1:25 am

Just wonder what we’d call the missus. Either First Lady or Third Mistress.