A nation turns its lonely eyes to … Newt?
Mitt Romney continues to pull the same 25 to 30 percent of the GOP base that he’s had all along. The remainder of his party, reluctant to settle for the man from Massachusetts, continues to look around for a champion who can rescue them from his clutches.
For the moment, that champion happens to be Herman Cain, but it’s impossible to believe that can last. Critical as I’ve been of them, I still have more faith in the GOP electorate than to believe they’re serious about making Cain their nominee. But having run through Bachmann and Perry, where else can they turn?
'Say, um, are you free tonight?'
Well, there’s that portly gentleman with the gray hair over there, the one tugging on his ear and, frankly, trying to look disinterested. The name is Newt Gingrich, I believe.
Listening to Newt these days, it’s pretty clear that he thinks the race may finally be turning in his direction. He looks at Romney and sees a man with a “Nelson Rockefeller problem,” as Gingrich calls it, noting that “there is a natural ceiling” for such candidates in the Republican Party.
(Nelson Rockefeller, for those too young to know, was a moderate Republican and a successful governor of New York who in 1960, 1964 and 1968 lost the GOP nomination to more conservative opponents. Think of him as the original RINO.)
Gingrich also looks around at his fellow candidates and sees rank amateurs, all of whom have had their shot at being the anti-Mitt and have fallen short. Other than Romney, Gingrich is the only major player on the debate stage who actually knows public policy, and it shows.
“At some point I think it’s going to come down to Romney and me,” Gingrich said this week. “Once we get down to a two-person debate, then I’m reasonably confident I will win.”
The former speaker is also positioning himself as the sole grownup in the party, the only one with the self-control needed to be successful next summer and fall. Watching Romney and Rick Perry squabble at the last debate, Gingrich said, made him feel like “I was the recess monitor on the playground, watching these two kids.” He even talks in regretful tones about the decline of mutual respect in politics, noting that “policy dialogue, handled with civility, is exactly what politics should be.”
Of course, it’s impossible to hear pleas for civil dialogue from a man with Newt’s history without giggling a bit. And in his heart he really hasn’t changed much, as evidenced by his recent suggestion that U.S. Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd ought to be tossed into prison. Earlier this year, Gingrich also accused House Republicans of trying to impose “radical … right-wing social engineering” and claimed that President Obama is governed by a “Kenyan, anti-colonialist” mindset. The hyena hasn’t changed his spots, and everyone knows it.
And that’s just the problem. Anybody else with Gingrich’s resume, knowledge and rhetorical skills would indeed be well positioned to become Romney’s main challenger at this point. But Gingrich isn’t just anybody else. He travels with more baggage than a 100-piece marching band.
"You see, this is my life! It always will be! Nothing else! Just us, the cameras, and those wonderful people out there in the dark!... All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my close-up."
To today’s voters, he also comes across as a politician from another century, when men named Clinton and Reagan and Dole walked the corridors of Washington. And he doesn’t seem to get that. In fact, if Romney gives off echoes of Nelson Rockefeller, Gingrich has at least a touch of Norma Desmond about him. Like that once-famous actress in the classic “Sunset Boulevard,” he’s ready for his closeup and certain that he’s going to be just as big as he ever was.
– Jay Bookman
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Mr_B
October 26th, 2011
8:00 pm
“The Democrat power brokers, the real democrats that run the party, as opposed to the ones on here who merely run their mouths, are seriously trying to ease Obama out.”
I guess that would be the international conspiracy of communists and Jewish bankers……
Mick
October 26th, 2011
8:00 pm
yaker
That rant was seriously delusional. I’m not buying what you’re selling, what gives you the cojones to determine one’s americanism? That’s downright un-american…
getalife
October 26th, 2011
8:01 pm
Perhaps we should add w was the worst in modern history or in our life times.
AmVet
October 26th, 2011
8:01 pm
No, Frank, just proving how nonsensical your claim is that Carter was a worse president than George.
It’s not even close. (Excluding in your bizarre, made up parallel reality.)
BTW, N-GA made an astute observation about your moniker the other morning. He noted that you are a disgrace to use the name you use.
But I do love it when you try to go all intellectual, though.
“Reading his posts has a negative affect on my cerebellum.”
The cerebellum (Latin for little brain) is a region of the brain that plays an important role in motor control. It is also involved in some cognitive functions such as attention and language.
So getalife’s posts causes you to go into spasms, forget what you’re doing and talk in tongues?
(I suspect he is not the reason. LOL!)
Stick to the one or two syllable words that you can handle…
TaxPayer
October 26th, 2011
8:03 pm
All the con bluster but no committment from them for their favorite candidate amongst the ones ready to represent them!!!
F. Sinkwich
October 26th, 2011
8:03 pm
This just in:
“Asked to rank the most ignorant, mentally deficient posters on Jay’s blog in comparison to conservatives, more than 61 percent of the Mensa members concluded that AmVet was the worst in the nation’s history, followed closely by getalife, Adam, and Mick”
“The competition is fierce for that crown,” said the Mensa president. “Many others, including the blog’s author, vie for it every day.”
Fast and Furious Spending
October 26th, 2011
8:03 pm
for an unjust, illegal war based on lies
Sooth,
You are uniquely unqualified to assert anything regarding the lies of your political opponents. To comprehend lies, you need first to be well grounded in the truth.
Since you are not, you are dealing in degrees of untruth only, and any categorization you make is suspect.
getalife
October 26th, 2011
8:05 pm
Talk about partisan.
Read kay’s rant.
Mick
October 26th, 2011
8:05 pm
sink
Lame…
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:06 pm
ADAM
Well, for some reason the blog won’t let me post my own 10 worst (tried twice) and since it’s not “in moderation” I have no idea why….maybe the Bruin could tell us…
But, Mick, it’s not being uppity…Obama and Bush both are not even “in history…” They’re still current events…
Fast and Furious Spending
October 26th, 2011
8:07 pm
mick @ 8,
Sticking up for kayaker’s definitions of Americanism, I would only say that words have meaning. The word American either means something or it doesn’t. If it does mean something, then we ought to be intelligent enough to determine whether or not A is A, as Plato said.
If being American means nothing at all, then you’re entirely right. Who is he to say that Obama’s American or not?
Who are you, in fact, to say that he’s wrong?
saywhat?
October 26th, 2011
8:07 pm
Josef,
Its hardly partisan to claim w bush as one of the worst- his record is in the books and it ain’t pretty. The colossal foreign policy blunder of invading Iraq all by itself qualifies him, especially given all the long term social and economic consequences here at home, which have not yet even fully played out. Not to mention, I can’t think of a single positive thing he accomplished for the country as president. His signature tax cuts helped leave the country in record debt, along with the “off the books” accounting for the wars. Medicare part d, while a decent idea in theory, was completely screwed up in actual , being nothing more than a giveaway to the drug companies, and of course, also unfunded. He left the country in an economic shambles from which it will take many more years to recover.Over the course of the bush presidency there was a net job growth of ZERO. What other presidents have “accomplished” so much?
As for Obama, wait 7 years, (2 years after his presidency ends), and then begin to make a decision. To do so sooner truly is partisan.
getalife
October 26th, 2011
8:07 pm
Ah come on f.
Plagiarizing now?
Use that brilliant mind of yours and come up with something original.
Lame.
kayaker 71
October 26th, 2011
8:09 pm
Mick,
One of the things that impressed me about Palin was her basic love for this country. I don’t think that she would have made a very good Veep but she has a certain spark that turns on patriots and I really don’t think that it is coming from some dumb ass*ed Wasilla AK governor. People recognize almost immediately how a person feels about the country that they live in and the electorate expects the person that they elect to have a love of country, a certain affinity for what made this country great. That’s why Newt would make a good president. Maybe not our best but a basically good president. Certainly head and shoulders over what we have now. We have to get some people back to work and Bozo is is just not doing it.
AmVet
October 26th, 2011
8:09 pm
In the wake of the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001, the United States enjoyed enormous support around the world. President Bush squandered that goodwill by taking the country into an unnecessary war of choice and misleading the American people to gain support for that war. And he failed utterly to have a plan to deal with Iraq after the invasion. He further undermined the international reputation of the United States by justifying torture.
Mr. Bush inherited a sizable budget surplus and a thriving economy. By pushing through huge tax cuts for the rich while increasing federal spending at a rapid rate, Bush transformed the surplus into a massive deficit. The tax cuts and other policies accelerated the concentration of wealth and income among the very richest Americans. These policies combined with unwavering opposition to necessary government regulations have produced the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Then there is the incredible shrinking dollar, the appointment of incompetent cronies, the totally inexcusable failure to react properly to the disaster of Hurricane Katrina, the blatant disregard for the Constitution—and on and on.
Like a majority of other historians who participated in this poll, my conclusion is that the preponderance of the evidence now indicates that, while this nation has had at least its share of failed presidencies, no previous presidency was as large a failure in so many areas as was that of George Walker Bush.
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:11 pm
saywhat…
I’m no fan of Bush by a long shot…and not much of one of Obama…but they come in well behind my list of top ten worst IMO
1.Andrew Jackson
2.Abraham Lincoln
3.Jefferson Davis
4. James Buchanan
5. U. S. Grant
6. Warren G. Harding
7.Richard Nixon
8.William McKinley
9.Herbert Hoover
10.Franklin Pierce
AmVet
October 26th, 2011
8:11 pm
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again.
Cons cannot do humor.
And they should never, ever try it without adult supervision.
When the lion of your genre is Dennis Miller, you know you’re screwed…
Kamchak
October 26th, 2011
8:12 pm
I would only say that words have meaning. The word American either means something or it doesn’t.
Yep.
“America” is a continental distinction.
Fidel Castro is an “American.”
So is the Brazilian futbol player Ronaldo de Assis Moreira AKA Ronaldinho.
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
8:13 pm
kayaker 71 @ 8:09
“a certain spark that turns on patriots”
And if a left winger had said that, how quick would you be calling them a sexist?
Just curious. =)
getalife
October 26th, 2011
8:13 pm
The cons will never get over losing and smear our President with thoughts from rush and hannity.
He won fair and square cons and did not need the sc to decide.
He is a patriotic American and you cons have shown your true colors of unpatriotic and unAmerican behavior.
That is the truth.
Newt's 15 Minutes of Fame is Up
October 26th, 2011
8:13 pm
The only person that believes that Newt can be the Republican nominee is his wife!
Obama 2012
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:14 pm
saywhat…
No fan of either Bush or Obama…but they’re small potatoes compared to what has been there before…
saywhat?
October 26th, 2011
8:15 pm
Kayaker confused Palin’s love of MONEY for love of COUNTRY, which believe it or not, are not the same thing. Its a common Republican mistake.
kayaker 71
October 26th, 2011
8:17 pm
Deep South Outlaw,
I would think that any liberal poster would appreciate the rather hidden desire of most any poster, liberal or conservative, to appreciate Ms. Palin’s wiles. As an old man, I could only dream.
Soothsayer
October 26th, 2011
8:18 pm
AmVet: can you post a link for that? I would appreciate it.
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:18 pm
Let’s see if it gets through this time…my own top ten worst…
1.Andrew Jackson
2.Abraham Lincoln
3.Jefferson Davis
4.James Buchanan
5.U. S. Grant
6.Warren G. Harding
7.Richard Nixon
8.William McKinley
9.Herbert Hoover
10.Franklin Pierce
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:19 pm
YAY! Learn something new every day!
Kamchak
October 26th, 2011
8:19 pm
…the rather hidden desire of most any poster, liberal or conservative, to appreciate Ms. Palin’s wiles.
This liberal has higher standards than Snowbilly Snooki.
Soothsayer
October 26th, 2011
8:20 pm
“Sooth,
You are uniquely unqualified to assert anything regarding the lies of your political opponents. To comprehend lies, you need first to be well grounded in the truth.
Since you are not, you are dealing in degrees of untruth only, and any categorization you make is suspect.”
I just posted the link. However, I do believe and most will concur that the Iraq war was based on a number of lies. Pick one.
kayaker 71
October 26th, 2011
8:20 pm
Saywhat,
She is only living out the American Dream…… would you trade places with her? How many others, both liberal and conservative, have done the same thing? The Clinton’s are worth millions and no one has ever questioned their loyalty to country.
saywhat?
October 26th, 2011
8:20 pm
Josef- I am also not a huge fan of the president. His methods of getting things done are too indirect, too slow, and too subject to derailment by a consolidated opposition. BUT, he has gotten some positive results so far, and I will withhold a full assessment until he is past done. I certainly don’t foresee ranking him in the top ten either, even if fruits of his labor are late blooming.
saywhat?
October 26th, 2011
8:21 pm
“The Clinton’s are worth millions and no one has ever questioned their loyalty to country.”
Except for people like you.
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
8:21 pm
kayaker 71 @ 8:17
This is the internet. If that’s your itch, you’re trying to scratch it with butter.
Mr_B
October 26th, 2011
8:22 pm
Kayaker: I’ve never heard anyone seriously claim that Palin doesn’t love America, only that she wasn’t competent to be vice president of anything other than a hunting club.
Love of country is admirable, but it’s about as much a qualification for a very complicated job as having blue eyes. And as far as words having meaning, it seems that few on the right have a basic understanding of the words “communist”, “socialist” and “Messiah.”
Mick
October 26th, 2011
8:24 pm
yaker
Sorry but palin came across as a bit of a phony politician to me. I like her looks and think she would be great fun to go camping with but as far as having an intellect worthy of solving our problems, its just not there…
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:24 pm
Sorry about that double posting of my list…for some reason it wasn’t going through, then it did…JAY? Did you release it? Just trying to figure out what the problem was…
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
8:25 pm
Mr_B @ 8:22
I think most of them understand “Messiah” quite well. It does irk me that they call someone they hold as a “Left wing extremist” to be a “Socialist” as that is a right wing idealogy.
Soothsayer
October 26th, 2011
8:25 pm
“Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.”
– Howard Zinn
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 26th, 2011
8:27 pm
I suspect that many of the right choose their candidate based on the brain in their little head…that would explain so many pr*cks and idiots…..
As for Palin’s love of country, really? Her husband was part of a succession group for Alaska. That you forgive her for and she’s an patriot……
kayaker 71
October 26th, 2011
8:27 pm
OK, I’m outta here. Look deeply into who you vote for, whether liberal or conservative. Pick the one who has a love of country above all else. Most of the rest of it falls into line, despite their experience. After all, we’re picking a person who will preserve what we have, give us a solid economic future and allow us to develop into the nation that we should. Right now, we are falling woefully short.
F. Sinkwich
October 26th, 2011
8:27 pm
“He is a patriotic American”
There is absolutely no evidence to support that assertion, get.
Please enlighten us to how his early years established and fostered his love for America and its ideals. You may also wish to include his associations with patriots Ayers and Wright, how he actively sought out Marxists while in college, and his love of teaching the principles of Alinsky as a visiting Professor.
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:28 pm
saywhat
That’s why I say it’s way too early to be putting either of the two on such a list…distance lends perspective…
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
8:34 pm
kayaker 71 @ 8:27
“Look deeply into who you vote for, whether liberal or conservative. Pick the one who has a love of country above all else.”
Which would be much easier to do if one side would stop taking “pledges” to fringe, single topic interest groups.
Mick
October 26th, 2011
8:34 pm
josef
Your list is pretty accurate. Jackson was a nasty SOB, how he rates being on our currency is a mystery to me. Jefferson davis doesn’t count to me but I know why you have him there…
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
josef
Just out of curiosity, why do you consider Lincoln to be the second worst? Most historians hold him to be the best or second best.
Aquagirl
October 26th, 2011
8:37 pm
There is absolutely no evidence to support that assertion, get.
Except for that whole swearing to defend the Constitution thingy. Or I dunno, returning to live here, unless you think he was hauled back by wild ilk.
Look, if you want to make up fruitcake assertions and then play “it’s true unless you prove it’s not” I’m sure Sooth will oblige you. Have fun.
Mick
October 26th, 2011
8:38 pm
josef
Of course I do disagree with lincoln on your list but it’s because I’m a yank and he’s always been revered, hard to shake. He was an intellect and wrote some eloquent speeches to his credit…
Soothsayer
October 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
I think you’ll like this one from 1998.
Jm
October 26th, 2011
8:39 pm
Can the US government ever cut spending, even in the face of huge deficits?
I’m beginning to think the answer is no. The road to ruin……
Soothsayer
October 26th, 2011
8:42 pm
For those who haven’t heard, poverty has been eliminated.
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:43 pm
Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.
- Adlai Stevenson
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
8:44 pm
Jm
Realize you might not be a fan of his, but I read this today…author is listed as Gene Vallee
Warren Buffett, “I could end the deficit in 5 minutes,” he told CNBC. “You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all
sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election. The 26th
amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months
& 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in
1971…before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc. Of the 27 amendments to
the Constitution, seven (7) took 1 year or less to become the law of the
land…all because of public pressure.
Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of
twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do
likewise.
In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the
message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.
*Congressional Reform Act of 2011*
1. No Tenure / No Pension. A Congressman collects a salary while in office
and receives no pay when they are out of office.
2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security. All
funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security
system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system,
and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for
any other purpose.
3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans
do.
4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise. Congressional pay
will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the
same health care system as the American people.
6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American
people.
7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen are void effective 1/1/12.
The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen. Congressmen
made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in Congress is an honor,
not a career. The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours
should serve their term’s), then go home and back to work.
Kamchak
October 26th, 2011
8:44 pm
Can the US government ever cut spending, even in the face of huge deficits?
But…but…but…Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.
Which brings us to the economic level. The deficits that Bush ran up in the years in which the country was teetering on the verge of a serious recession had the beneficial effect of righting the economy. In that sense, deficits not only didn’t matter, but were a force for economic good.
Translation: IOKIYAR
wet wiccan
October 26th, 2011
8:44 pm
Any Bloom County fans here? This was done for the 2008 election cycle, but it still fits.
http://images.salon.com/comics/opus/2007/07/08/opus/story.jpg
getalife
October 26th, 2011
8:45 pm
I guess winning a war is now “unpatriotic”.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 26th, 2011
8:45 pm
but…but….but….josef, I have a flag pin and I say the Pledge of Allegiance (well at least the words I knows)……
Martin Williams
October 26th, 2011
8:46 pm
Come on Jay, are you kidding me? Newt, I can see another four years of Obama. I do not from the bottom of my heart feel sorry for the GOP idiots. The GOP do not have the true candidate to challenge Obama come 2012. Cain is just a decoy for another Obama victory. Listen to Romney on Iraq, that our troops should stay for next 1000 years. Perry, I am truly surprise he is a two term governor of Texas……it tells you a lot about Texas people. I love Ron Paul the only truth sayer in the whole group. No GOP politician have ever stated that Ronald Reagan traded weapons for hostages to Iran, only Ron Paul and he is 100% correct.
Not Newt
October 26th, 2011
8:46 pm
“Eye of Newt, and toe of frog,
Wool of bat, and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork, and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg, and howlet’s wing,–
For a charm of powerful trouble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.”
getalife
October 26th, 2011
8:48 pm
I guess getting obl is unpatriotic.
I guess saving our economy and auto industry is unpatriotic.
I guess crushing aq is unpatriotic.
I guess making his oppponent Sec. of State is unpatriotic.
I guess his long list of accomplishments is unpatriotic.
You cons are out of your minds and lost it after he won.
Look in the mirror to see a unpatriotic unAmerican sore loser.
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:49 pm
Why Lincoln and Davis…those two egomaniacs plunged this country into the most destructive, brutal, and bloody war yet to beset anyone other than the that against the Indians…it was unnecessary and neither one wanted anything but blood, blood and more blood and were driven by the most evil of forces, the sacrifice of lives to advance a political agenda…and that both Northerns and Southerners would laud them in hagiology speaks to how little we ever learn from the mistakes of the past and, thus, allows us to keep repeating the mistake…
philosopher
October 26th, 2011
8:50 pm
“Newt, not like our present debacle, really loves this country. His books reflect his deep devotion to our country, our Constitution and what made America the country that it is.” Gag a maggot- for real! This guy loves only one thing, and that Newt! So he can write stuff that you like to hear- great! But with the morals of an alley cat, it means absolutely nothing!
Jm
October 26th, 2011
8:50 pm
Deep south
Yeah he’s said that before
If you passed an amendment to do that it would work
A regular law and they’d just change it right before election
The Kid
October 26th, 2011
8:51 pm
Deep South Outlaw; …Amen. Republicans ,reap what you sow.
Soothsayer
October 26th, 2011
8:51 pm
Hey! If you want to cut spending here’s a great place to start.
Mr_B
October 26th, 2011
8:52 pm
F. Sinkwich
October 26th, 2011
8:27 pm
“He is a patriotic American”
There is absolutely no evidence to support that assertion, get.
As there is absolutely none to support an assertion to the contrary; except in the conned mind.
AmVet
October 26th, 2011
8:52 pm
Here ya go, Soothsayer.
Trust me, it is great fun to shove that one in the face of the Carter bashers…
http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
And josef, you know I think you’re great.
But anybody who thinks Lincoln was one of the worst ever and Bush wasn’t is a tad bit outside of the mainstream!
getalife
October 26th, 2011
8:53 pm
Mr. Buffett is a great American patriot.
Look cons, a real American.
It is time to cut their benefits.
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:54 pm
Mick
I will say this for Lincoln (sorry, Granny!
) , he was a wit of the first order…
“There are those who say I am two-faced. If I were two-faced, would I be wearing this one?”
“He could snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.”
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:56 pm
ZamVet
Why the h3ll would I even want to be “mainstream?” Perish the thought!
getalife
October 26th, 2011
8:56 pm
AmVet,
He is a tad bias against the Civil War loss.
I mean get over it already.
josef
October 26th, 2011
8:58 pm
Not Newt
Oh, good…you left out the liver of blaspheming Jew…ZamVet and I are safe for a while longer…
Mr_B
October 26th, 2011
9:01 pm
josef: I curious as to your opinion of the following: Given the political climate in the preceding 25-30 years prior to 1861, and the fact that human slaves constituted a huge percentage of capitol investment in the pre-unpleasantness era, under what scenario could war have been avoided and the slaves freed? Note that I left out “perserving the union” as I think it was as much a smokescreen as “states rights.”
josef
October 26th, 2011
9:02 pm
getalife
Really? Just because I don’t buy the orthodox conservative interpretation (be it Southern or Northern) means I have a tad bias against the loss of the Civil War….I thought I made it clear that imo we ALL lost that war…
getalife
October 26th, 2011
9:03 pm
“George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Franklin D. Roosevelt are consistently ranked at the top of the lists.”
Soothsayer
October 26th, 2011
9:07 pm
For those who don’t know, this is what Mount Rushmore looks like from the Canadian side! You know I wouldn’t kid you, now don’t you?
josef
October 26th, 2011
9:08 pm
Mr B…
I have often wondered that myself…the problem was that no one was willing to even try…overall, the United States would most likely have followed the patterns set in Cuba and Brazil…a gradual emancipation beginning around 1880 with compensation to the owners, land allotments to the freedmen, continued support for the aged and infirm, etc. Slavery as an insitution was considerably worse in those two societies and yet, today, their race relations are much better than ours…
josef
October 26th, 2011
9:09 pm
getalife
And? Hagiology is not a good idea…
Soothsayer
October 26th, 2011
9:10 pm
You know, the Flat Tax ain’t such a bad idea after all.
getalife
October 26th, 2011
9:11 pm
This country is ripe for a revolution.
We should be arguing about the future not the past.
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
9:13 pm
getalife
I rank Teddy right below those 3.
Kamchak
October 26th, 2011
9:15 pm
Hagiology is not a good idea…
Is that the study of haggis?
The Scots seem fond of ‘em.
josef
October 26th, 2011
9:17 pm
Deep South
Teddy? You’re not an Indian, are you?
wiccan
LOVE Bloom county,,,,
getalife
Yes, it is…and if we are wise we will look to the last time we had one and ask ourselves why…
Jm
October 26th, 2011
9:17 pm
Getalife 9:11
That might be the most intelligent thing I’ve heard u say…..
Hugh G. rection
October 26th, 2011
9:18 pm
Newt has more wisdom in his pinky finger than you magic messiah Odumbass has in his whole body. Obama is a dedicated socialist and an ENEMY of the US! Why do you think his college records are sealed? Is that because he is so transparent?
It is because if the truth was revealed about this Marxist “community organizer” it would be over in a flash! 20 years in his racist church and he never heard a thing. Idiot!
getalife
October 26th, 2011
9:18 pm
Only in the South do they keep bringing up the Civil War.
If you want to leave the United States vote gop because they will default and the South finally leave.
josef
October 26th, 2011
9:19 pm
K’chak
The Scots should stick to banking, Calvinism, bagpipes and whiskey and stay out of the kitchen!
RB from Gwinnett
October 26th, 2011
9:20 pm
Jay, how about you let us pick our candidate and you spend your time trying to figure out how to lie to enough morons to get them to believe Obama isn’t a complete failure.
We’ll take care of picking our candidate.
Jm
October 26th, 2011
9:22 pm
Deep south
I might put TR above Franklin though he was great too
Lincoln saved the union but Adams and Jefferson are awesome too
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
9:22 pm
josef
Nope, but I could understand them having a lowly opinion of him. But at the same turn, you ranked Lincoln as a “worst” when he freed an entire race. At worst, Teddy just didnt stop the extremely indefensible treatment of a race.
josef
October 26th, 2011
9:24 pm
getalife
And because the North seems to have forgotten it, we keep on repeating the same mistakes…
Kamchak
October 26th, 2011
9:24 pm
We’ll take care of picking our candidate.
Many states, such as Ga., have open primaries. That means anyone can vote in either primary and vote for another party in the general election.
Jm
October 26th, 2011
9:24 pm
Getalife 9:18
Well, at least it’ll happen without slavery
Deep South Outlaw
October 26th, 2011
9:26 pm
Jm
Washington’s greatest truly was prior to his presidency in many ways. But his service, I’ll gladly keep him up top. Lincoln’s obvious. FDR’s place will continue to go up or down depending upon the status of the country. Right now, I’d think some of his ideas would hold water…instead, we’re following Hoover down the rabbit hole again. All things in moderation though. Which is why I tend to agree with Getalife that we’re heading towards a lot of civil unrest ( I refuse to believe my countrymen will let it get to revolution though).
getalife
October 26th, 2011
9:27 pm
“That might be the most intelligent thing I’ve heard u say…”
And I am still waiting for you to do the same
getalife
October 26th, 2011
9:28 pm
Yeah josef,
The radical con behavior has been outstanding.
JKL2
October 26th, 2011
9:28 pm
getalife- Mr. Buffett is an evil rich man.
fixed your typo.
I know you hate him with every breathe in your body. He’s made fortunes off the backs of the poor without ever lifting a finger to help. I’m sure you’ve reserved a special table for him in he!!.
Jm
October 26th, 2011
9:30 pm
Deep south
Too much debt is an equal danger
Balanced budget amendment
Or buffetts solution
AmVet
October 26th, 2011
9:30 pm
Our loss is San Diego’s gain…
http://blogs.ajc.com/radio-tv-talk/2011/10/25/former-cbs-atlanta-weather-person-dagmar-midcap-lands-a-new-job-in-san-diego/?cxntlid=thbz_hm
(Loved the reference to the sweaters…)
JKL2
October 26th, 2011
9:31 pm
getalife- He is a tad bias against the Civil War loss. I mean get over it already.
Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, getalife, and all the other Demwits on here say,”What?”.
josef
October 26th, 2011
9:33 pm
Deep South
Lincoln freed what? Have you read the Emancipation Proclamation? It didn’t free anybody…and the 13th Amendment was passed post Lincoln’s demise…he was lukewarm on emancipation at best and was not for equal rights of citizenship
Teddy was a great proponent of extermination (Dawes Commission…)
“.I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are dead Indians, but I believe nine out of ten are, and I shouldn’t inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian.”
But, well, Geronimo DID get a Cadillac…