More evidence that Iraq, Afghan wars have stretched too long
A U.S. Army Ranger from San Diego has been killed in combat in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced Sunday.
Sgt. 1st Class Kristoffer Domeij, 29, was killed Saturday in Kandahar province when his unit was attacked by the enemy with an improvised explosive device.
Domeij enlisted in the Army in 2001 and joined the 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington in 2002. He was on his 14th combat deployment.
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Fourteen combat deployments in a 10-year military career. (According to the Pentagon, Domeij enlisted in July 2001, before the terror attacks of that September.) You have to wonder what that does to a person, and to his family. Even had he survived, that’s an awful lot to ask of a soldier, and the soldier’s family. (Sgt. Domeij leaves behind his wife, Sarah, and daughters Mikajsa and Aaliyah.)
Also killed in the attack were 1st Lt. Ashley White, 24, and Pfc. Christopher A. Horns, 20.
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Sandy
October 24th, 2011
9:37 pm
Recon,
NOPE! They’ll be coming after your fake macho b.s.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
9:37 pm
Sooth
Maybe you’re not aware
We destroyed their armies and we are helping rebuild their countries
josef
October 24th, 2011
9:37 pm
Sandy
I’m as I said a pacifist, but I’ll thank you not to insult my boy and his voice of career. He’s not ignorant, indeed he’s quite well read, a liberal politically, and in matters of social class views the bourgeoisie as his tool!
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
9:39 pm
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
9:37 pm
“Soldiers are the ignorant tools of the bourgeoisie….”
Ignorant is the operative word here.
Patriotism clouds the judgement.
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You think so? What is your excuse sir?
philosopher
October 24th, 2011
9:39 pm
@Steve – USA : Do you suppose, then, that we should just go blindly forth, sending our sons and daughters into harm/deaths path without ever considering our actions, our culpability, or the wisdom or ethics in continuing to send them? I don’t believe so..in fact, I think to NOT cover that ground is to disrepect the gentleman and the value of his life. It is shallow at best to say nothing more than that he went over there and died for our freedom.
Pizza (active duty veteran)
October 24th, 2011
9:39 pm
Mindful that it was the invasion that caused the DISASTER !
Sandy
October 24th, 2011
9:39 pm
Onward christian soldiers….barf!
JKL2
October 24th, 2011
9:40 pm
tapayer- Our President, Obama, is ending that Bush-led disaster in Iraq. It’s so nice to have an intelligent and caring president.
Bush set the end of our occupation of Iraq. obama tried to extend it, but being totally inept at foreign policy, Iraq told him to “pound sand” and stick to the original deadline.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
9:40 pm
Sooth,
We won in Iraq. Iraq is stabilized and where they go from here is up to them. Afgh is a different story and will probably just eventually revert back to the barbarism it has always known. But if Iraq continues to progress and 20 years from now becomes a beacon of stable democracy in an otherwise dictator ship led middle east then there will be hope for that region of the world. It will take another couple of decades before history can judge whether or not Iraq would have been all worth it. We cannot at this point in time make that judgment.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
9:40 pm
“We have now reached a stage where our extreme horrors of brutality and cruelty have exceeded our past records. We no longer have the rationale of moral righteousness of the earlier wars…. There were no excuses for Abu-Ghraib, but our interest in that inhuman travesty dried up and blew away. We have little concern about our violations of human rights in Guantanamo. ….the real horrors – of this war come with the primitive killer mentality developed in our youth. I’ve now seen a half dozen documentary films and read eyewitness accounts that reveal troops or pilots gloating over the massacres of civilians who just happened to be available targets.”
I’m getting angrier and angrier.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
9:40 pm
Well, then you bourgeois libs have a lot to answer for then. Sooth and friends can repent by doing some VA volunteer work.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 24th, 2011
9:41 pm
“I multitask del.”
“Duh, duh, duh” is the smartest post from you yet.
“Genius I tell ya.”
I rest my case.
AmVet
October 24th, 2011
9:41 pm
Very animated discussion tonight.
Two last thoughts on George W. Bush.
He always struck me as a guy who was in pretty decent shape. An animal? Hardly, but no slouch either.
As for him keeping it zipped since he left office, I salute him.
By far, his best move…
Octavio Mata
October 24th, 2011
9:42 pm
I used to work for SFC Domeij he was one of the most influential role models in my life. This guy woke up every morning ready for work never complaining about his job and always contributing to his unit and young soldiers like me. This guy loved what he did with all his heart. Thank you for making the ultimate sacrifice and being the person that you were May you rest in peace and join all the other Airborne Rangers in the sky.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
9:43 pm
Soothsayer
Sounds like you need counseling. Go take your anger out on something. But not our troops.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
9:43 pm
“We won in Iraq.”
Well, Thulsa, I guess I’m a little slow on the uptake. Please explain how we “won” in Iraq. What measures do you have for that “benchmark?” I really want to hear this.
Sandy
October 24th, 2011
9:43 pm
If a tie is like kissing your sister, then the Iraq war is like getting corn holed by Abdullah the butcher…
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 24th, 2011
9:44 pm
“NOPE! They’ll be coming after your fake macho b.s.”
Well we can now add Sandy to the ignorant list. Thank you Sandy for exposing yourself.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
9:45 pm
Sooth. You have a lot to answer for.
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
9:45 pm
I’m really disappointed in you Sooth. I have never called you ignorant, (although in my opinion you quite often post some delusional stuff here). Why do you call me ignorant just because I don’t see things as you do? Because I served my Country I am somehow intellectually deficient? I don’t insult YOU because you DIDN’T serve your Country. Why do you have to be like that? Where would you be if no one took up arms?
Well that’s an easy question to answer. A British citizen……. and then who would have stopped the Germans or Russians from world domination? Or maybe you just hate the notion of free thought and self determination.
I dunno, but I, at least am offended by your myopic and quite arrogant point of view. I guess though that you are God and anyone who doesn’t walk lock step with you is a complete and utter moron. Isn’t that the current definition of the right wingers? Fell proud, you and Rush shame the same characteristics…….
N-GA
October 24th, 2011
9:46 pm
F Sinkwich – You tarnish the good name of a respected football legend. Shame on you.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
9:46 pm
“Sooth and friends can repent by doing some VA volunteer work.”
I take my Dad to the VA on a regular basis. I have seen first-hand the damage these men suffer from needless, politically-expedient wars of aggression. It’s really pathetic.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
9:46 pm
Sooth
Son. You’re a disgraceful American.
AmVet
October 24th, 2011
9:46 pm
Some VA volunteer work?
Great. But why there? So you can feel patriotic? And I make no judgement about that, I’m just asking.
I volunteered at Northside Hospital for several years.
No big whup. Just some Saturday mornings out of my life.
Most of us want to help. We just find ways not to.
A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity. ~Ralph Nader
getalife
October 24th, 2011
9:48 pm
I accept your surrender del.
pf,
Add the bwa so they know you are joking.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
9:48 pm
Sooth
Sorry to hear your dad is so “ignorant”, as you say
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
9:48 pm
AmVet
October 24th, 2011
9:41 pm
Very animated discussion tonight.
Two last thoughts on George W. Bush.
He always struck me as a guy who was in pretty decent shape. An animal? Hardly, but no slouch either.
As for him keeping it zipped since he left office, I salute him.
By far, his best move…
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LOL Nice post Amvet.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 24th, 2011
9:50 pm
Okay Taps y’all. My sweet little daughter needs tucking in and bedtime stories. Can’t believe at my age that I’m this lucky.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
9:50 pm
Sooth,
How do I measure winning? Well we took out Saddamm and his murderous henchman. Then we subdued the resistance. We then set up a young democracy that is functioning. How is that not winning? We are going to leave them with a trained military and a functioning govt that is in no imminent danger of collapse because the organized resistance has been largely defeated. Am I mistaken or is there not a legitimate, functioning govt operating in Iraq that will continue to function for the foreseeable future after we leave?
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
9:51 pm
“I’m really disappointed in you Sooth. I have never called you ignorant”
If they weren’t ignorant, they would not volunteer to fight in contrived wars of aggression, engineered by neo-cons and based on lies and deceptions.
In fact, the whole Afghanistan and Iraq wars are built on deceptions and lies.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
9:51 pm
Am vet 9:46
We owe our veterans. We owe all our common men help, and I have done so. But I think we also owe our military an equal, if not deeper, debt of gratitude and assistance if it is needed
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
9:52 pm
“Most of us want to help. We just find ways not to.”
Ain’t that the damn truth. Count me in that group. Always MEANING to go “do that”……………
I’ve been thinking about volunteering to do stuff with cancer kids at the hospital. Just don’t know if I’ve got the stones to face that though. Charge a machine gun? Yeah I can do that, did that. Deal with dying kids? I dunno. Don’t know that I’m strong enough. But if not me then who?
Thanks for the prod. You phallic cranium lol.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
October 24th, 2011
9:52 pm
“I accept your surrender del.”
Only in your dreams.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
9:57 pm
Thulsa: “To Dream The Impossible Dream.”
How long do you think that’s gonna last?
It must really be hard to be a neo-con. First, you have to believe the improbable story that a bumbling bunch of “Arabs” (Saudi Arabians) piloted jumbo jets into the World Trade Center and that those buildings miraculously “collapsed” as a result of being struck by an airplane, which they were designed for.
Then, you have to believe that a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan were somehow behind the whole thing. Then, you have to believe that Saddam Hussein was further behind the whole thing.
Then, you have to believe that Saddam was preparing weapons of mass destruction when the Iraqis had no real Air Force. Oh, they had those aluminum tubes and that yellow cake. Heck, that sounds as good as any a reason to invade.
Give me a break, really!
getalife
October 24th, 2011
9:58 pm
When will you learn del,
You can’t see me.
JKL2
October 24th, 2011
9:59 pm
AmVet- An animal? Hardly, but no slouch either
Would have to disagree on that one.
http://www.examiner.com/running-fitness-in-detroit/celebrity-marathon-runner-george-w-bush
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
10:00 pm
Jm
October 24th, 2011
9:51 pm
Am vet 9:46
We owe our veterans. We owe all our common men help, and I have done so. But I think we also owe our military an equal, if not deeper, debt of gratitude and assistance if it is needed
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I disagree about the “deeper” debt. We owe ALL fellow citizens help if needed, but none more than others. We are all equal. Is a soldier killed in crappy unnecessary war more deserving of help than a fireman killed in an arson fire? Than a cop shot by a wigged out crackhead? Or a father killed by a drunk driver while he has stop by the highway to help a stranded motorist?
Think about your “compassion” for soldiers JM and apply it to the men and women out of work while the ‘job creators” are sending all the work over seas. There isn’t much difference. When these soldiers get out, where are they going to work? nowhere, unless they move to fricking China and work as slaves. Oh wait, in most cases they can’t because the Chinese are using not only slave labor but use children as the slaves and these soldiers are just too old.
Think about it next time you mouth the phrase “job creators” for those rat bastiches that hold all the money and yet do nothing for this Country.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:00 pm
Dr. Mahboob A. Khawaja, an academic with special interests in global peace and security and conflict resolution, and comparative cultures and civilizations, and author of numerous publications in global affairs. His latest book includes: Arabia at Crossroads: Arab People Strive for Freedom, Peace and New Leadership. VDM Publishers, Germany, September 2011. Comments are welcome: kmahboob@yahoo.com
Sooth,
Lemme get this straight. You’re going to post this Arab academic’s lambasting of the U.S. military at Abu Graib as if this man has some kind of credibility? This man whines about abu graib where a handful of American soldiesr basically just humiliated and embarrassed Iraqi prisoners by takin gembarrassing pics of them. Boo hoo and shame on them for basically just embarrassing these guys. Lemme know when we actually stoop do doing what the Arabs do in torturing soldiers. That would include gouging out eyes, cutting out tongues, ripping teeth and fingernails out, cutting off noses and ears not to mention limbs, and on and on. Good grief.
Sandy
October 24th, 2011
10:01 pm
Just remember Jesus luvs u, everyone else thinks your a ahole…..good night!
AmVet
October 24th, 2011
10:02 pm
The Scarlet A ,
It was actually a fun job. I sat at the information counter in the main lobby. Helped tons of people find their way to wherever and generally just tried to be helpful and comforting, if need be.
And, of course, tried to talk to the nurses and other pretty girls when I could.
Thank gawd, I was nowhere near the emergency room.
(I’m ex-USAF. don’t need the blood and guts stuff! LOL)
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:02 pm
The fact is that the entire last decade had been built on a pack of lies. We have spent untold fortunes and countless lives on a pack of lies. We have bankrupted out Nation on a pack of lies. We have enriched untold military materiel suppliers on a pack of lies. We have plunged our nations into a depression based on a pack of lies. We have made ourselves a pariah in the World community based on a pack of lies.
I’m sorry, neo-cons, but this is truly the saddest day in America’s history.
getalife
October 24th, 2011
10:03 pm
The gop want to cut their benefits yet they still vote gop.
perhaps you vets can help me out with that logic.
I don’t get it.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:04 pm
Thulsa: post a link that substantiates that claim.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:06 pm
Sooth,
Yes. And who would believe those backwards a$$ 3rd world goat herders would have developed the nuclear bomb in Pakistan. That accomplishment alone should teach you not to underestimate the lengths to which these crazies will go to wage war. If one of the most backward a$$ countries in the world has the bomb then I find it quite feasible that 19 of them could hijack a few planes. And please don’t get started on the 9/11 conspiracy nonsense again. I’ve already blown that conspiracy out of the water and quite frankly its a waste of time on your part. Nobody believes that 9/11 nonsense about it being an inside job by W except you, Rosie O’Donnell, Sean Penn, and Willie Nelson after he’s just burned a blunt.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:08 pm
Friends, I want to warn you that what you are about to see is very disturbing. You are advised to consider the impact of this video before watching it!
AmVet
October 24th, 2011
10:08 pm
I knew he ran a lot, JKL2. As did Clinton before him.
But he wasn’t a linebacker at Yale, he was a cheerleader. (OK, cheap shot, LOL!)
So let’s call him a mini-beast.
JFK, was a real beast.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:09 pm
Sooth,
Post a link to substantiate what claim? That in Arab prisons and in the middle east that eyes get gouged out, limbs hacked off, etc? Its pretty well documented that in Iraq alone tortures like these happened on a regular basis under Saddamm. And in neighboring Iran they regularly hang gays for the crime of….. well being gay of course. Are you of the opinion that viscious torture techniques do not take place in middle eastern countries?
JKL2
October 24th, 2011
10:11 pm
soothsayer- those buildings miraculously “collapsed” as a result of being struck by an airplane, which they were designed for
Designed to be hit by a little plane, not a jumbo jet. If you design your building for a 5.0 earthquake and you get 7.2, all bets are off. Same with this scenerio. The engineers never invisioned jumbo jets in lower Manhatten.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:11 pm
Scarlet A
I disagree. Do I owe a veteran more than someone who elects to waste their life on meth, drugs, ad alcohol? I think so.
I’m not saying I shouldn’t help that person. But if I had to prioritize, I would put the veteran first. Criticize me all you want. I don’t care.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:11 pm
Thulsa: post a link. Heck, it shouldn’t have taken this long to find a link.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:13 pm
JKL2: the two World Trade Center towers were designed to withstand multiple impacts of 707s the largest jet at the time they were built.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:13 pm
AmVet,
Gerald Ford was the real beast if ya’ll are talking about tough guy ex potuses. Ford was a fullback at michigan and supposedly a pretty good one. Bush 1 was a baseball player and of all the other potuses I can’t remember any of their athletic feats. I think Abe Lincoln was a wrestler.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:14 pm
Hillary Clinton’s answer when asked on MTP if we should be concerned if the withdrawal might destabilize Iraq: “let’s find out.”
Seriously??????
I think it’s lame to criticize the president as making this withdrawal decision as a political one. But you can question the logic and judgement all day long.
1811/0311
October 24th, 2011
10:14 pm
Sandy:
Does that include JAY’s mom and dad ? They were soldiers.
About soldiers:
“I have the sense from time to time that I am not alone, and I suspect that despite the limited understanding we have of events in distant places, there will always be those among us who have the gleam of the quest in their eyes. They are people of every sex and station and they yearn to be challenged to a cause. They will always be looking for that wrong to right, that ill to cure, that song to sing; and there will always be those who will go to arms in aid of the helpless and the downtrodden. Ignoring the political issues of the moment, these people will champion the weak and the poor in the face of evil and tyranny. And no matter what the outcome, in their romantic hearts they will always keep the secret, if secret it must be, that they are better men for having held the lamp beside the golden door”.
David Donovan
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:15 pm
Sooth,
We’ve been over this. Everyone knows the world trade center was built to withstand these blasts. But what they didn’t figure and which science proved is that the ensuing jet fuel fire weakened the steel substantially to the point of collapse. The science proves it and no. The steel didn’t have to melt. It only needed to be weakened by high temps in order to lose its tensile strength.
1811/0311
October 24th, 2011
10:16 pm
Thulsa:
Clinton was a drum major.
Obama played reefers.
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
10:17 pm
Sooth@ 10:08: What was so disturbing? Kids threw rocks and bottles at soldiers and then got spanked. I fail to see the “disturbing elements. But then again I only watched 50 seconds of a 1:27 video. Did they behead anyone after the 50 second mark? I mean little boys thinking they were men faced a little boy punishment not a man’s punishment. What is your point?
JKL2
October 24th, 2011
10:17 pm
Thulsa Doom- Lemme know when we actually stoop do doing what the Arabs do in torturing soldiers.
Hear, Hear! I liked the chair with the two hooks attached to a pivot on the end of a bolt. The hooks would go up the nose and they would rip it off the guys (or girls) skull. Much better than getting your picture taking wearing a dog collar. Better to be dead than on youtube…
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:17 pm
Thulsa
Sooth is angry and crazy
Needs counseling
1811/0311
October 24th, 2011
10:17 pm
Does anyone remember the Iran/Iraq War ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War
Kamchak
October 24th, 2011
10:18 pm
Everyone knows…
Not this crap again.
JKL2
October 24th, 2011
10:18 pm
sooth- JKL2: the two World Trade Center towers were designed to withstand multiple impacts of 707s the largest jet at the time they were built
Thanks for proving my point. Rant on…
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:18 pm
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:11 pm
Thulsa: post a link. Heck, it shouldn’t have taken this long to find a link.
Link
Report this comment
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Sooth,
Hard to do when you won’t specify exactly what specific point of mine that you dispute and that you want a link on. Please clarify.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:19 pm
Thulsa: can you post a link of any building before or after the World Trade Center towers that have collapsed because of fire?
bman
October 24th, 2011
10:20 pm
“Think about it next time you mouth the phrase “job creators” for those rat bastiches that hold all the money and yet do nothing for this Country.”
Who are you talking about here?
Billybob
October 24th, 2011
10:20 pm
soothsayer, 10:02
somebody needs a hug…..and possibly a new hobby b/c that post and mentality can only bring frustration and misery into your life……positive wishes to you my friend
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:21 pm
JKL2: please explain to me then what caused the World Trade Center towers to collapse.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:21 pm
Poo,
Well then again maybe not everyone does know. As you amply prove in a self evident manner there are the ignorant among us.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:21 pm
Sooth
Take your conspiracy theories to a psychiatrist
This is not a therapy room for you
You’re nuts
JKL2
October 24th, 2011
10:22 pm
sooth- I’m sorry, neo-cons, but this is truly the saddest day in America’s history
Raise the debt ceiling to $30T and it’s free money for everyone. obama rules!
Kamchak
October 24th, 2011
10:22 pm
thelma
You don’t have the authority to speak for “everyone.”
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:23 pm
Sooth 10:21 gravity
But you probably don’t believe in that
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:23 pm
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:19 pm
Thulsa: can you post a link of any building before or after the World Trade Center towers that have collapsed because of fire?
Sooth, can you post a link of any building before or after the World Trade Center towers that have had jumbo jets loaded with thousands of gallons of jet fuel slammed into them? Please provide a link when you find one.
1811/0311
October 24th, 2011
10:24 pm
Headline: “The total of U.S. state debt, including pension liabilities, could surpass $4 trillion, with California owing the most and Vermont owing the least, a new analysis says.”
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
10:24 pm
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:14 pm
Hillary Clinton’s answer when asked on MTP if we should be concerned if the withdrawal might destabilize Iraq: “let’s find out.”
Seriously??????
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Seriously. WHo cares? I care as much about Iraqi’s as they care about me. There isn’t a single one of those asshats who is worth (in my opinion) a single hair on an American soldiers nut sack.
What about you chief? Are Iraqi’s more important to you than Americans? As a republican, you want to cut off unemployed Americans form food, but you seem to be all over billions to make sure the Iraqi’s are all right. Do they feel the same about you? I doubt it. Let me clue you into something that Rush has failed to mention (because his big buddies that pay his salary make BILLIONS on this “war”).
You can’t “give” someone freedom or democracy. They want to want it so bad that they will sacrifice their lives for it. The Iraqi’s haven’t and didn’t. We are trying to “give’ them something they don’t want. When they want it, they will TAKE it. Until then, fork them. They aren’t worth it. We should have never been over there and we shouldn’t be there now.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:24 pm
poo,
And you don’t have the credibility to speak to anyone.
JKL2
October 24th, 2011
10:25 pm
getalife- perhaps you vets can help me out with that logic
Demwits want to gut our intelligence and destroy us (ala Clinton). Your call.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:25 pm
Kam is denying sad dam tortured his own people
LOL
1811/0311
October 24th, 2011
10:25 pm
Thulsa:
Engineering 101 …………. don’t bother with them.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:26 pm
Kam I know you need attention
But grow up boy
1811/0311
October 24th, 2011
10:26 pm
Thulsa:
I still have my K&E slide rule. Paid $50 for it new in 1965 (pre-computers ……………
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:27 pm
“Thulsa: can you post a link of any building before or after the World Trade Center towers that have collapsed because of fire?”
Why would I do that. You made the assertion that the fires from the jet fuel caused the buildings to collapse. Let’s substantiate that first before we move on to something else.
I challenge everyone on this blog to post a link of a single building in the history of modern skyscrapers that have collapsed on account of fire.
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
10:28 pm
bman
October 24th, 2011
10:20 pm
“Think about it next time you mouth the phrase “job creators” for those rat bastiches that hold all the money and yet do nothing for this Country.”
Who are you talking about here?
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The asshat 1 percent you republican sheep name as “job creators.” That’s your new insipid catch phrase for those selling our Country down the river for their own profit. The modern day equivalent of “Let them eat cake.”
But then you knew that. Tell me what part you PRETEND to not understand……..
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:29 pm
Any building in the entire World that has collapsed on account of fire. Please let me hear it! I’m waiting.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:29 pm
Scarlet
You don’t know me. I’m not a republican.
Go elsewhere with your ignorant assumptions
Aurelius
October 24th, 2011
10:29 pm
Everyone in favor of spending 6500 American lives and $1.5 trillion American tacpayer dollars trying to build Muslims a New nation, raise your right hand?
Kamchak
October 24th, 2011
10:30 pm
Kam is denying sad dam tortured his own people
Please show me where I posted exactly that, sport.
Thanks in advance.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:30 pm
Scout: about the closest you’ll ever be to being an engineer is if you are standing next to one.
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
10:31 pm
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:27 pm
I challenge everyone on this blog to post a link of a single building in the history of modern skyscrapers that have collapsed on account of fire.
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Well crap fire and save the matches, this is easy. The Twin towers.
Next?
bman
October 24th, 2011
10:32 pm
TSA….Name the companies. Name the people. Be specific.
I did not say I disagree with you. I simply asked “who” you were talking about. And really? it’s 10:30 and the old cranky men that act like teenagers are usually tired and in bed right now.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:32 pm
Sooth,
As I said post a link of any building in the world that had a jumbo jet loaded with thousands of gallons of fuel crash into it other than the WTC.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:32 pm
Sooth
Buildings not put out with water collapse all the time from fire
And even some put out with fire do so
You’re clueless
You ever turn on the news or do you live under a rock?
Liberals really are insane and sick in the head.
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:33 pm
The twin towers and building 7 did notcollapse on account of fire. Surely there must be some precedent since the WTC towers “collapsed” on account of fire. There must have been at least onebuilding before or after to have collapse on account of fire.
The Scarlet A
October 24th, 2011
10:33 pm
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:29 pm
Scarlet
You don’t know me. I’m not a republican.
Go elsewhere with your ignorant assumptions
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Oh, but I do. It it walks like a republican, uses the catch phrases of a republican, it MUST be a Republican. You’ve been quoting the talk show line forever and denying it. Why are you so ashamed of what you are and whom you are representing?
If you are so proud of your talk show ideals, then man up and admit to them.
JKL2
October 24th, 2011
10:33 pm
sooth- JKL2: please explain to me then what caused the World Trade Center towers to collapse
gravity. Next!
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:34 pm
“Buildings not put out with water collapse all the time from fire
And even some put out with fire do so.”
Post one.
Jm
October 24th, 2011
10:35 pm
Scarlet
Fly a kite
Show me where I ever used the phrase “job creators”
You’re an ignorant troll
Soothsayer
October 24th, 2011
10:36 pm
“sooth- JKL2: please explain to me then what caused the World Trade Center towers to collapse
gravity. Next”
Post one.
Thulsa Doom
October 24th, 2011
10:36 pm
Sooth,
Actually it was easy. Title of the article is a 4th building with steel girders that completely collapsed from fire alone.
Won’t get as much attention from the 9-11 Deniers as the other three:
About 50 firefighters tackled the blaze at the ESP plant in the Enigma Business Park, near Malvern, which started on Wednesday morning.
The roof collapsed inside the building and flames leapt 45ft (14m) into the sky in a strong wind, Hereford and Worcester Fire and Rescue Service said.
A spokesman for the fire service said the blaze had resulted in a black smoke cloud which could be seen for miles.
He added: “Intense heat buckled the steel girders holding the roof.”
As our buddy Rob, who pointed this story out to us in an email, notes, it looks more like nanothermite; notice the distinctive orange glow.
(Yes, I know other steel-framed buildings have collapsed due to fire, but the post name was too good).
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2006/11/fourth-steel-framed-building-to.html
Frank
October 24th, 2011
10:36 pm
A writing from someone who is a) not proud to be an American and b) scared as hell of one day dying.