More evidence that Iraq, Afghan wars have stretched too long

From the LA Times:

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A U.S. Army Ranger from San Diego has been killed in combat in Afghanistan, the Pentagon announced Sunday.

Sgt. 1st Class Kristoffer Domeij, 29, was killed Saturday in Kandahar province when his unit was attacked by the enemy with an improvised explosive device.

Domeij enlisted in the Army in 2001 and joined the 2nd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in Washington in 2002. He was on his 14th combat deployment.

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Fourteen combat deployments in a 10-year military career. (According to the Pentagon, Domeij enlisted in July 2001, before the terror attacks of that September.) You have to wonder what that does to a person, and to his family. Even had he survived, that’s an awful lot to ask of a soldier, and the soldier’s family. (Sgt. Domeij leaves behind his wife, Sarah, and daughters Mikajsa and Aaliyah.)

Also killed in the attack were 1st Lt. Ashley White, 24, and Pfc. Christopher A. Horns, 20.

– Jay Bookman

485 comments Add your comment

Kamchak

October 24th, 2011
6:22 pm

More evidence that Iraq, Afghan wars have stretched too long

Effing. A. Skippy!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 24th, 2011
6:24 pm

And the supercommittee is talking about cutting benefits to our veterans….. shame. It’s time to end these wars, bring them home, and be sure they are taken care of to the best of our financial ability.

Paul

October 24th, 2011
6:24 pm

When I was real young I would think of WWII vets like my dad being gone for four years and think how hard that seemed for them and their families.

But this….

No more. And time to bring most of the rest home from all our other outposts.

Normal

October 24th, 2011
6:26 pm

I used to go to the VA hospital to visit friends and others back after “Nam. I stayed out until ‘75, so I could go weekly. It Was a way to salve my survivors guilt and hopefully do some good. I hope their are people (Iraqi vets) out there who are willing to do that for our current group of war casualties…

F. Sinkwich

October 24th, 2011
6:27 pm

Anybody see Bush throw out the first pitch at the WS last night?

Compare and contrast that with Hopey/Changey’s girly man throw in his mom jeans some time ago.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 24th, 2011
6:27 pm

Well, that guy must of been in combat for 10 straight years. I mean, heck, you figure in three years you might could get two or three different moves in the Army. But 14 in 10 years? Somebody up near the top must not of liked the guy.

I don’t know. Just bring them all home. Now we’re hearing from the Afghanistan president that if the U.S. and Pakistan ever went to war with each other, he would side with Pakistan. This after we spent billions of dollars and buckets of our boys’ blood to prop this guy in the cape and the weird cap up? Bring them home. Let those people cut each other into little pieces. They’re going to wind up with a bloody dictator anyhow. We don’t need to be spending our money and sacrificing our youth to decide which dictator winds up on top.

martin the calvinist

October 24th, 2011
6:28 pm

For once I totally agree with Keep! Well said Sir or Ma’am.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 24th, 2011
6:30 pm

Ma’am? Oh that is so wrong! :lol:

Jay

October 24th, 2011
6:33 pm

Really Sinkwich?

That’s what you choose to add?

martin the calvinist

October 24th, 2011
6:33 pm

sorry, I didn’t know your gender……

josef

October 24th, 2011
6:34 pm

And you know what the really sad part is? Their deaths are not even background noise…where are the media on this? And no offense meant, Jay, but why are y’all not all over this like during Vietnam…until we are slapped squarely in the face with it, the “big boys” will keep on sacrificing those lives and we’ll sit back in the comfort and security of our daily lives and respond to these periodic mentions of the human cost with, “oh, yeah…that’s right…”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 24th, 2011
6:34 pm

martin, no problem! Not offended and glad to have your support! :D

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
6:35 pm

It’s only been ten years!

Doggone/GA

October 24th, 2011
6:35 pm

“That’s what you choose to add?”

Jay – that’s the written equivielent of “some people are not listening to your conversation, they are merely waiting for their chance to speak”

Kamchak

October 24th, 2011
6:36 pm

Really Sinkwich?

That’s what you choose to add?

One can only give what one has.

josef

October 24th, 2011
6:38 pm

Sinkwich

Say what? Oh, please, Girlfriend, you strike me as a closet case, self-hating, mean spirited t*rd…

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
6:39 pm

Republicans cannot complain unless Obama comes out and proclaims that war is good and we must fight wars everywhere forever. Only then can Republicans flip-flop.

Doggone/GA

October 24th, 2011
6:39 pm

“One can only give what one has”

Yeah, well…why am I reminded of “tis better to be silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”?

martin the calvinist

October 24th, 2011
6:40 pm

You’re welcome Keep, a common good idea deserves all the support it can get! :)

Jay

October 24th, 2011
6:40 pm

Josef, one of the things you learn in this business is that you can’t make people care. Sinkwich is pretty strong evidence of that, I’d say. We could put this on the front page every day but it doesn’t mean people would read it. If you take an all-volunteer — meaning all professional — force, it means nobody is in fear of getting drafted or seeing their sons and daughters drafted. If you cut taxes even as you go to war, it means nobody feels it in the wallet or pocketbook. It becomes just something else happening somewhere else to somebody else.

Blame the media for that if you wish. But the real explanation is human nature and the way we’ve structured our war-fighting apparatus.

Welcome to the occupation (Trotsky)

October 24th, 2011
6:44 pm

Josef, one of the things you learn in this business is that you can’t make people care. Sinkwich is pretty strong evidence of that, I’d say

Some pathologies can be cured. Deep-seated psychopathology is virtually incurable.

Shonika

October 24th, 2011
6:45 pm

I think there needs to be a national dialogue about what we gained from our investment of thousands of lives and billions of dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In both countries there’s the real possibility that when we pull out they’ll revert to what they were before, or even worse.

Kamchak

October 24th, 2011
6:46 pm

In both countries there’s the real possibility that when we pull out they’ll revert to what they were before, or even worse.

And in related news, the sun will rise tomorrow in the East.

Welcome to the occupation (Trotsky)

October 24th, 2011
6:47 pm

Speaking of psychopathology, yesterday a chemical bomb was tossed into a gathering of people participating in Occupy Maine.

So far the incident has received very little media coverage.

Steve - USA

October 24th, 2011
6:47 pm

Keep@6:24

Excellent point. The toys will remain and the Veterans will get screwed.

F. Sinkwich

October 24th, 2011
6:47 pm

“Really Sinkwich?

That’s what you choose to add?”

Yep, Jay.

Sgt. Domeij is a true American hero who felt so strongly about defending our great country against its enemies he deployed into combat 14 times. His death is a tragedy but a price I’m sure he felt was necessary to ensure our freedoms, like the hundreds of thousands of heroes who paid the ultimate price since America’s founding.

Yet you, Jay, have decided that “More evidence that Iraq, Afgan wars have stretched too long” is his epitaph.

Do you think Sgt. Domeij would approve?

martin the calvinist

October 24th, 2011
6:48 pm

I agree with Jay, (though I once supported going after Saddam, and initially going into Afganistan, I have since changed my position some), any war we go into should be properly funded, period, no questions asked. I’ve always stated that we should only spend what we take in. I know that sounds simplistic but it should be how we operate fiscally.

josef

October 24th, 2011
6:48 pm

JAY

Don’t get me wrong…I’m not “blaming” the media any more than I am “blaming” the rest of us, self included. Let me go one step further with that, if I may and take my own share of the “blame.” When our boy was deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, never a day went by that I didn’t consciously think about it and not a waking moment it wasn’t in my subconscious, but now he’s safely home…”oh, yeah, that’s right…” Slap me in the face and remind me that there are hundreds of thousands who are still consumed by the thoughts…

As for the all-volunteer military…yes, very much what you said “something else happening somewhere else to somebody else.” Put a yellow ribbon on the car next to the “support our troops” bumper sticker and sleep well…

AmVet

October 24th, 2011
6:53 pm

Fourteen combat tours in ten years???

To quote the repugnant Donald Rumsfeld’ “You go to war with the army you have—not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time.”

If I was religious man, I would ask god, how he gave us the the worst of the worst of the worst for those eight years…

Jay

October 24th, 2011
6:53 pm

I have no idea whether he would approve, Sinkwich. Neither do you, and neither of us should presume to speak on his behalf.

josef

October 24th, 2011
6:57 pm

JAY

And let me add, it’s not the Sinkwiches who matter, and I think you underrate the power of your profession…just like us teachers, you have impact even when you think you’re not getting through…just don’t let it go to your pointy l’il haid! :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 24th, 2011
7:00 pm

What a shame. This young man gave his life for his country without the opportunity to live a life outside the military.

With the economy having started tanking after 9/11 he possibly saw the military as the only way to support his family and may have paid the ultimate price for the folly of the BS artists in DC.

Steve - USA

October 24th, 2011
7:03 pm

I never meet Sgt. 1st Class Kristoffer Domeij but I don’t think it is a fitting tribute to use him as a pawn in some of these petty arguments.

Doggone/GA

October 24th, 2011
7:05 pm

“but I don’t think it is a fitting tribute to use him as a pawn in some of these petty arguments”

And I don’t think it’s pettty at all to ask if we should have sent him to die where and why he did.

1811/0311

October 24th, 2011
7:07 pm

Jay:

On that one we can agree. We asked WAY too much !

Which means ………………… we need to spread it around and that:

1) I believe takes a draft
2) Which would never be fair (men & women)
3) Which the country would never support
4) Which means we should no longer be the world’s policeman
5) Unless you have some other options

P.S. While you’re at it, please note that many urban police officers spend 20-30 years in very dangerous high crime areas and it can be argued the carnage and PTSD type situations they are confronted with (child abuse, suicides, murders, shooting situations, physical attacks, terrible car accidents involving loss of life ofchildren) takes the same toll.

josef

October 24th, 2011
7:07 pm

common sense

“With the economy having started tanking after 9/11 he possibly saw the military as the only way to support his family and may have paid the ultimate price for the folly of the BS artists in DC.”

Don’t take this the wrong way, please, but that connection of “only way to support his family” with the choice of the military as a career is not properly respectful of those who choose the armed forces their lives… I am a pacifist and when our boy made that choice, I had to come to terms with the fact that he was continuing a pre-Columbian family tradition, he being descended from the warrior caste of the Choctaw and his and Unmentionable’s family a military family…there was much more at work in his choice, and I am assuming this man’s as well…

Thomas

October 24th, 2011
7:11 pm

Fairly significant stastic for our good friends in DC to ponder

A recent National Bureau of Economic Research working paper looked at the mortality rates of men who had lost their jobs in earlier recessions and found a 15 to 20 percent increase in death rates during the next 20 years.

Steve - USA

October 24th, 2011
7:12 pm

Doggone,

Ask the President, he has had 3 years to end it.

You get the last word word, I don’t have time to spend 24/7 in Jays blog like you kids do.

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 24th, 2011
7:13 pm

Josef – I do agree that many join the military as a career, my father did and supported his family on that pay scale until retirement.

But many also join for what the think are a few years and then would like to return to civilian life. Those are the choices that became limited after the economy tanked.

But even if he was a careerist 14 deployments in 10 years seem rather excessive.

josef

October 24th, 2011
7:14 pm

Steve

Then what are you doing here at all? A bit on the uppity side there, aren’t you? :-)

Doggone/GA

October 24th, 2011
7:14 pm

“Ask the President, he has had 3 years to end it”

And President Bush had 7 years to end it

Doggone/GA

October 24th, 2011
7:18 pm

“A bit on the uppity side there, aren’t you? ”

I read it that I hit a nerve

AmVet

October 24th, 2011
7:18 pm

Scout, for one of a very few times, I completely concur.

No more needless loss of American lives.

And had a mere 538 Floridians voted differently in 2000, it is entirely plausible that thousands of American men in uniform, like that Army Ranger would still be alive…

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
7:18 pm

Ask the President, he has had 3 years to end it.

Perhaps Steve did not get the word about Iraq and December.

josef

October 24th, 2011
7:18 pm

common sense

I have some strong opinions about the “recruitment” policies, too, and the military option as a way to move into a better life…the point is well made and bears its own discussion, imho. You being from a career military family gives you a certain perspective valuable to such a discussion…

“But even if he was a careerist 14 deployments in 10 years seem rather excessive”

And I couldn’t agree any more strongly…

F. Sinkwich

October 24th, 2011
7:19 pm

Weak, Jay, weak.

You really think he would be proud of the epitaph you ascribed to him?

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 24th, 2011
7:21 pm

I don’t disagree that these wars have gone on too long but the war with Islamic jihadists still continues. The SFC and many like him have endured deployments and re-deployments. They have enlisted and re-enlisted to do exactly that and should the time come when we have all of our young people unwilling to do so, will be the day no one on this blog or in America would truly want to face. R.I.P. Ranger Domeij.

1811/0311

October 24th, 2011
7:21 pm

josef:

Subject: HOW THE INTERNET GOT STARTED

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>Abraham Com did take unto himself a young wife by the name of Dot.
>And Dot Com was a comely woman, broad of shoulder and long of leg.
>Indeed, she was often called Amazon Dot Com.
>And she said unto Abraham, her husband, “Why dost thou travel so far
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>short of a camel load, but simply said, “How, dear?”
>And Dot replied, “I will place drums in all the towns and drums in
>between to send messages saying what you have for sale, and they will
>reply telling you who hath the best price. And the sale can be made
>on the drums and delivery made by Uriah’s Pony Stable (UPS).”
>Abraham thought long and decided he would let Dot have her way with
>the drums. And the drums rang out and were an immediate success.
>Abraham sold all the goods he had at the top price, without ever
>having to move from his tent. To prevent neighboring countries from
>overhearing what the drums were saying, Dot devised a system that only
>she and the drummers knew. It was known as Must Send Drum Over Sound
>(MSDOS), and she also developed a language to transmit ideas and
>pictures – Hebrew To The People (HTTP).
>And the young men did take to Dot Com’s trading as doth the greedy
>horsefly take to camel dung. They were called Nomadic Ecclesiastical
>Rich Dominican Sybarites, or NERDS.
>And lo, the land was so feverish with joy at the new riches and the
>deafening sound of drums that no one noticed that the real riches were
>going to that enterprising drum dealer, Brother William of Gates, who
>bought off every drum maker in the land. And indeed did insist on
>drums to be made that would work only with Brother Gates’ drumheads
>and drumsticks.
>And Dot did say, “Oh, Abraham, what we have started is being taken
>over by others.” And Abraham looked out over the Bay of Ezekiel, or
>eBay as it came to be known. He said, “We need a name that reflects
>what we are.”
>And Dot replied, “Young Ambitious Hebrew Owner Operators.” “YAHOO,”
>said Abraham. And because it was Dot’s idea, they named it YAHOO Dot
>Com.
>Abraham’s cousin, Joshua, being the young Gregarious Energetic
>Educated Kid (GEEK) that he was, soon started using Dot’s drums to
>locate things around the countryside. It soon became known as God’s
>Own Official Guide to Locating Everything (GOOGLE).
>That is how it all began. And that’s the truth.”

getalife

October 24th, 2011
7:22 pm

Fourteen combat deployments is troop abuse.

They need to rest.

1811/0311

October 24th, 2011
7:23 pm

Recon:

The war with Islamic Jihadists (like cancer) will never end. What may end is our will to fight it.

In my opinion, the fight must be shared by America at large. That has never happened.

josef

October 24th, 2011
7:24 pm

SCOUT

Thanks! That was rich! :-)

Creed

October 24th, 2011
7:25 pm

Three more?

June, 2010–US Soldier Deaths in Afghanistan Rise 273% & Wounded Rise 430% in Two Years

The White House, the Pentagon, and the mainstream media have minimized attention to alarming increases in deaths and casualties suffered by US soldiers in Afghanistan since 2008, the Peace and Justice Resource Center has reported. President Obama’s current escalation is expected to sharply increase the already disturbing numbers.

Death tolls have increased by 273% so far this year compared to the same period in 2008.

There has been a 430% increase in US troops wounded in Afghanistan this spring in comparison to the same period in 2009.
According to the Department of Defense’s data, as of yesterday, June 8, the six-month 2010 US military death toll in Afghanistan has increased to 156, exceeding the 155 total for the entire year of 2008.

These numbers more than doubled from 61 dead from January to May of 2009, to 142 through May of this year.
From January to May of 2008, 38 US soldiers were killed; 61 died from January to May of 2009, an increase of 60%.

From January to May of 2009 to January to May of this year, the toll increased from 61 to 142, or a one-year 132 percentage leap.

From January to May of 2008 to January to May of this year, US deaths jumped from 38 to 142 in the first five months of this year, a 273% two-year increase.
From January to the end of April of this year, 960 US troops suffered wounds in Afghanistan, up from 181 during the same time frame in 2009, a 430% increase.

Total US wounded in Afghanistan for the entire year of 2008: 793 [Between January and April of 2008: 107].

Total US wounded in Afghanistan for the entire year of 2009: 2,131 [Between January to April: 181].

Why has Bookman waited until now to mention deaths? Obama’s just war, his right war, his good war, has been an even more deadly war.

1811/0311

October 24th, 2011
7:25 pm

josef:

What do you think about this article?

“Is the US Declaration of Independence illegal?”

I agree with the British. Technically legal ……….. it was not ………. but it WAS settled by force of arms ……….. just like with the “South” and “Native Americans”.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511

getalife

October 24th, 2011
7:25 pm

How many deployments did you serve scout and del?

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
7:28 pm

If only Republicans would at least pay for their wars, it would be a positive start. By the way, tax cuts do not pay for wars.

1811/0311

October 24th, 2011
7:30 pm

58,272 ……………… Names on “The Wall”

josef

October 24th, 2011
7:31 pm

Scout
@ 7:25

Being an unrepentant rebel, I, of course, take the American view! :-)

And now we know, the Imam, is a stanking Brit loyalist…send him to Canada! :-)

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 24th, 2011
7:31 pm

I thought the war in Iraq was supposed to be paid for with all their oil?

That they would be so grateful to their liberators that the would turn the spigots on full and we (the US only) would be awash in the stuff.

josef

October 24th, 2011
7:35 pm

common

We’ll get our oil when Kurdistan breaks the yoke of Baghdad! :-)

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
7:36 pm

99……………………. bottles of beer on the wall.

thewindwhistler

October 24th, 2011
7:36 pm

Actually, staying there until the war was over would have been the way to go. It would have given him the chance he needed to blend into the country like the natives do. Certainly, tht would have been asking alot
however they could have visited him aT a rest and relaxztion area What will happen now is the army will withdraw all the troops and continue “virtual warfare’ from a command center inthe U.S. You probably think I am a little loose in the noodle but that is ok. I have it figured and feel a sense of epowerment passing this information along..

AmVet

October 24th, 2011
7:37 pm

Creed, I presume you supported Cindy Sheehan’s efforts to end the Dual Quagmires?

I gather you denounced Bill O’Reilly for saying that Americans who continued to protest after the bombs started falling in Iraq were un-American?

I suppose you decried CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox for having on the air exactly two anti-war voices out of the 80pro-war talking heads in the days immediately following shock and awe?

I’m certain you raised your voice loudly and steadily throughout the years of 2003 – 2008 beseeching that administration to stop the endless screw ups and massive loss of American lives?

Or did you do as virtually every other rabid Republican?

Say and do nothing?

Except to vote right back into office that deadly, inept, recidivist criminal administration?

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 24th, 2011
7:37 pm

1811,

The day is coming when the slime in America’s parks pretending to be real Americans urinating and defecating on door steps will be doing so in one, two, three trenches or in their underwear. We’re convincing those who would otherwise volunteer and fight for this country that it’s not worth it in spite of the liberal platitudes. Look out left, you say you want a draft, well soon you may have your wish but under circumstances that you really don’t want.

getalife

October 24th, 2011
7:41 pm

I guess my question was too hard for del and scout to answer.

I thought it was a simple question.

Paulo977

October 24th, 2011
7:41 pm

josef

think you underrate the power of your profession…just like us teachers, you have impact even when you think you’re not getting through…..

and that is why it is vital that what we present is productive and just!!!!!

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
7:42 pm

Did Del have to clean off his doorstep. I can only hope so, given the hyperbole.

Sara

October 24th, 2011
7:43 pm

Sad they died for draft dodging chicken hawk liars like dick and George!

bman

October 24th, 2011
7:44 pm

The story itself is bad enough without having it be politicized.

1811/0311

October 24th, 2011
7:44 pm

Recon:

This is for the current “Occupy” trash and the “ilk” of my day:

“Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say ‘what should be the reward of such sacrifices?’ … If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands, which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”

Samuel Adams

getalife

October 24th, 2011
7:44 pm

And they wonder why corrupt congress polls at a all time low and can’t be trusted.

josef

October 24th, 2011
7:45 pm

PAULO

I agree entirely…and we shouldn’t let it go to our pointy l’il haids! :-)

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
7:46 pm

The story itself is bad enough without having it be politicized.

I suppose we could always pretend that it’s not.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 24th, 2011
7:47 pm

Ohhh the poutrage of Scout and Del at the Occupy crowd and yet the support for the Tea Party……. oh the namecalling thrown and yet in some cases, the groups are one in the same……

Things that make you go…hmmmmmmm

Sara

October 24th, 2011
7:47 pm

Occupy is a true soldiers best defense. Stop sending runts to fight for silver spoons!

Doggone/GA

October 24th, 2011
7:48 pm

“The story itself is bad enough without having it be politicized”

Wars are always political. You can’t leave politics out of it.

getalife

October 24th, 2011
7:48 pm

Some of our troops are protesting.

Some of them support Ron Paul because he is anti war.

del and scout tow their failed party line.

Sad.

Creed

October 24th, 2011
7:50 pm

AmVet, I did not vote for Obama. As far as I am concerned, the war in Afghanistan should have ended with OBL’s fast exit into Pakistan.

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
7:50 pm

I heard the Occupy Wall Street US citizens could use some help with the trash. They are quite the efficient bunch and most excellent recyclers (I think the plants have never been greener) but there is a limit to what they can accomplish in such tight quarters without the benefit of one of those many barges that the place normally uses to haul off all the trash generated by the residents. Out of sight, out of mind, I suppose.

Jackie

October 24th, 2011
7:53 pm

@Creed

Here is some evidence indicating the numbers you cite about the number of deaths in Afghanistan is not as dire as you indicate.

Further, Afghanistan was a war that was/is needed to stop the Taliban in Pakistan, a country with the nuclear bomb.

http://www.unknownnews.org/casualties.html

1811/0311

October 24th, 2011
7:53 pm

“Warriors deal with death. They take life away from others. This is normally the role of God. Asking young warriors to take on that role without adequate psychological and spiritual preparation can lead to damaging consequences …………. For the most part they have been left to do this on their own.”

“What It’s Like To Go To War” by Karl Marlantes

Fletch

October 24th, 2011
7:54 pm

Jee bus has forsaken the American soldier.

Working class hero

October 24th, 2011
7:57 pm

War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing….

USMC

October 24th, 2011
7:57 pm

Here it is folks, your typical Liberal DemocRat at Occupy Atlanta.

Haftin’ To Be Uproared – Occupy Atlanta
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW56Z-0xwIQ

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
7:58 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 24th, 2011
8:00 pm

USMC…. you really say more about yourself and your ignorance than anyone else when you post stupid claims.

Special forces

October 24th, 2011
8:00 pm

Cons are chicken shart

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
8:01 pm

War. Never been so much fun.

Special forces

October 24th, 2011
8:02 pm

bman

October 24th, 2011
8:03 pm

Taxpayer…you’re all over the map, aren’t you? The war-the politics of the war-occupy this & that-climate change

Have a drink or 2….or 20

Special forces

October 24th, 2011
8:04 pm

Damn right I ordered the code red! Con chicken hawks be damned!

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 24th, 2011
8:08 pm

I think there is an Islamist jihadist behind every Bush

TaxPayer

October 24th, 2011
8:08 pm

bman,

If you can’t keep up try laying off the drink or two or twenty.

josef

October 24th, 2011
8:09 pm

Bman

“you’re all over the board…”

And there’s something wrong with that?

Jack

October 24th, 2011
8:09 pm

You’re giving Bookman a heartburn, Sinkwich.

Special forces

October 24th, 2011
8:11 pm

You ever killed a man with your bare hands?

josef

October 24th, 2011
8:12 pm

Oops.

All over the MAP…

lynnie gal

October 24th, 2011
8:13 pm

Thanks for this, Jay. It puts a face on sorrow for these horrible wars.

Special forces

October 24th, 2011
8:13 pm

You ever been in a Turkish prison?

Common Sense isn't very Common

October 24th, 2011
8:14 pm

Yep there are Taxpayer all over the map, especially since everyone knows men are directionally challenged.

I’ll drink to that

josef

October 24th, 2011
8:14 pm

Jack

Wear gloves…no fingerprints or DNA… :-)