Georgia’s elected leaders, looking out for your interests — or not

As predicted here earlier, from the AJC’s Kristi Swartz:

Georgia will consider cutting back weekly unemployment checks by $30 next year to help pay off a federal loan the state assumed to maintain benefits for hundreds of thousands of jobless workers.

But the move is being criticized by advocates of out-of-work Georgians, who say Labor Commissioner Mark Butler is favoring businesses over workers

In a meeting with some of the legislature’s House and Senate leadership Thursday, Butler proposed cutting weekly jobless benefits for top earners to $300 from $330. Any changes would have to be approved by state lawmakers and Gov. Nathan Deal. If a benefits cut is approved, it would not impact workers now drawing checks but those who make new claims.

Advocates for workers would rather the state ask businesses to pay more into the state’s unemployment insurance fund…

The news came on the same day the state labor department released September unemployment figures. The number of jobless rose to 10.3, the highest in Georgia since January….

Butler said he’s weighing other options, including reducing the number of weeks that Georgians can receive benefits from 26 to 25 or lower.

The federal loans were necessary because when times were good, Georgia politicians cut the amount that employers were required to contribute to the unemployment insurance fund, leaving it short of funds when it was needed. Now the problem is being solved on the backs of Georgia families wondering how to make the rent payment, buy groceries and keep the heat on.

Family values at work.

Meanwhile, up in Washington, our two senators, Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson, joined their 45 Republican colleagues in voting unanimously against a plan to spend $35 billion keeping teachers, firefighters and police officers at their posts. The vote — which needed 60 supporters to break yet another GOP quasi-filibuster — means that public safety will be compromised and classrooms left empty.

The measure would have been funded with a 0.5 percent surtax on incomes of more than million dollars.

As an alternative, Chambliss, Isakson and their colleagues have proposed what they call the “Jobs Through Growth Act,” which among other things would lower the top individual tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent, cut the top corporate tax rate to 25 percent and keep the system revenue neutral.

Lowering rates for corporations and top-end taxpayers — the current 35 percent marginal rate applies only to income above $379,150 for a couple filing jointly — would inevitably require higher taxes on the rest of us. But I suppose that’s a sacrifice that the rest of us should be happy to make, given how they’re struggling in this economy.

Right?

fredprof

Just to reiterate, the chart above, provided by the St. Louis Federal Reserve, tracks AFTER-TAX corporate profits.

– Jay Bookman

202 comments Add your comment

MEGO

October 21st, 2011
9:00 am

Jay, you knew it was coming!!

MEGO

October 21st, 2011
9:01 am

On the backs of the people who can least afford it………….how “Christian Like” nothing like living in the “Bible Belt”!! Oh and top of the morning to everyone. Hey I am first …what’s the prize?

Guy Incognito

October 21st, 2011
9:04 am

MEGO

You get a big ol bag of NOTHING!

F. Sinkwich

October 21st, 2011
9:04 am

“voting unanimously against a plan to spend $35 billion keeping teachers, firefighters and police officers at their posts”

I live in Georgia, Jay. Why should I pay for local services which are the responsibility of say, Detroit?

Guy Incognito

October 21st, 2011
9:05 am

Jay,

I think a RED line would have a bigger impact

Guy Incognito

October 21st, 2011
9:07 am

The tax $$$$ that is being spent to accommodate all of the OWSers will force lay-offs in public safety positions.
They must hate cops and firefighters.
Bullies

1811/0311

October 21st, 2011
9:07 am

I bet I can find enough cigarette, beer and twinkies money to make up for that and more ………. maybe some lottery tickets too.

FrankLeeDarling

October 21st, 2011
9:07 am

Unbelievable our republican leaders really don’t get it

Jay

October 21st, 2011
9:09 am

Sinkwich, two points:

1.) Do you make a million dollars a year? If not, you would NOT be paying for this.
2.) Georgia has teachers. Georgia has firefighters. Georgia has police officers. I have no idea why you brought, say, Detroit into the picture.

Thomas

October 21st, 2011
9:12 am

Unfortunately there are a number of folks unemployed that no one or company is missing. Bill Campbell said his #1 priority was employment. That is and should not be a corporation’s #1 goal. Jay- instead of stirring things up daily how about a road map for folks on how to start a company?

JohnnyReb

October 21st, 2011
9:13 am

The Left screams “shared sacrifice” as long as the money is taken from someoneelses pocket. That’s the theme of those who think employers alone should fund the shortfall. The right thing to do is raise the tax and reduce the benefits.

Road Scholar

October 21st, 2011
9:17 am

To answer your question, Jay, it is because he is apart of the ME FIRST wing of the conservatives. The He!! with America if I get mine now….and since They aren’t millionaires, mine in the future.

Jay I’m disappointed in the graph since you didn’t use more colors…Oh the colors!

Matti's Rapture Time?

October 21st, 2011
9:20 am

I don’t understand why the Dems don’t force a vote anyway. (Help me out here if I’m wrong, will you?) They don’t vote on this stuff unless they have prior 60-vote support, because “the Republicans will only filibuster or quasi-filibuster, so there’s no point.” Is this right?

I say LET THEM FILIBUSTER. Stick cameras in their faces, and record every single syllable while they explain to the American people that we don’t need teachers, cops, and firefighters, bridges, and roads, as much as their billionaire sponsors need another tax cut. Americans should SEE and HEAR this instead of reading a synopsis the next day.

Show Low Here We Come

October 21st, 2011
9:21 am

The Republicans are entrenched in their belief that by doing nothing, they ensure the President is defeated next year. The Democrats are entrenched in their belief that if they keep proposing legislation they know the Republicans will vote down, they can use that against the Republicans in next year’s election. Neither side gives a crap about you, me, teachers, firefighters, jobs, the economy, or the country – they are only doing what they believe will ensure your vote next November. It’s all just politics, and it stinks to high heaven.

JohnnyReb

October 21st, 2011
9:21 am

Those that think spending 35 billion to put teachers, firefighters, etc. back to work for ONE YEAR please tell us your plan for when the year has ended and there is no money to keep them on the job? Lay them off again and give 99 more weeks of unemployment?

Obama’s plan is not a plan. It’s a reelection gimmick. If you buy into it, you are buying into failure.

Peadawg

October 21st, 2011
9:22 am

“voting unanimously against a plan to spend $35 billion keeping teachers, firefighters and police officers at their posts”

Yeah, for just 1 year from what I’ve read. We need long term stability, not short term to get Obama through the next election.

1811/0311

October 21st, 2011
9:22 am

JohnnyReb:

Jay is getting like Biden hollering “rape” !

Unemployment can’t go on forever ……….. time for your place of worship, family, friends, etc. to help make up that $30 and there are a multitude of ways to do it.

If addition, if everyone of those people losing $30 would vote against Obama we can get our country moving out of this mess.

1811/0311

October 21st, 2011
9:23 am

P.S. Gotta run ……. hold the fort.

kayaker 71

October 21st, 2011
9:25 am

Apparently Bozo’s jobs bill pays for teachers and firefighters and policemen for only one year. The jobs bill doesn’t necessarily say which state’s teachers, firefighters and policemen it will pay for but leaves it up to the states to take up the slack in an unfunded mandate or terminate the employees if they cannot afford to continue it. Just in time for Nov 2012. Put ‘em back to work for a year at taxpayer expense then when the states, especially the Republican controlled states, cannot afford to continue to employ them, blame the states for terminating them as heartless, non-compassionate “cons” without a heart. Actually it’s not a bad campaign strategy….. wish the taxpayers didn’t have to pay for it.

carlosgvv

October 21st, 2011
9:27 am

I have said many time that the Republicans are bought and paid for by Big Business and “favoring businesses over workers” is precisely what you would expect from such lackeys. However, many of the Republican electorate either cannot or will not see this and will continue to support those who care absolutely nothing about them. I admit that this kind of masochistic behavior is beyond my understanding.

JohnnyReb

October 21st, 2011
9:27 am

As a Republican, I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired of hearing Progressives who can’t think outside the party rhetoric state that Republicans would sell the country down the tubes just to keep Obama from being reelected. Wake up! Republicans are against Barry’s plans because they are proven failures. Should we just go along with him so there will be more debt with no long term results? That’s like asking us to ignore the child as he stumbles into traffic.

Aquagirl

October 21st, 2011
9:27 am

I have no idea why you brought, say, Detroit into the picture.

The native population has what some deem excessive melanin content. It’s funny how “those people” always spring into some minds when the b!tching starts.

Steve - USA

October 21st, 2011
9:27 am

Somebody check on the Fleab@ggers, they might need some hot chocolate.

Matti's Rapture Time?

October 21st, 2011
9:28 am

Show Low @ 9:21,

Good point! They’re all on the same side: their OWN. Certainly not ours. So often it seems to me like the Democrats don’t want to win. Even if it is all just politics, forcing them to filibuster would provide plenty of soundbites for political ammunition, but they won’t do it. So either, (a) they really don’t want to win, or (b) they’re too eskeered of their own darn shadows to try. (Either way, it makes the Repub’s constant shrieking about having stuff rammed down their throats all the more hilarious.)

AmVet

October 21st, 2011
9:28 am

It is beyond bizarre how the hardcore Republicans – in virtual unanimity – have swallowed, hook, line and sinker, these policies of senseless and needless failure.

But not failure for the super-rich in the top 1%. No sir. Or for the corporate parasites who take and take and take but give very little back in relative terms.

It seems like a great deal of self-loathing is in play as irrefutably the very worst of these guppies are themselves the victims of our new and ever-contracting plutocracy.

Truly mind-boggling….

JohnnyReb

October 21st, 2011
9:30 am

Yea, Biden. Now there’s a VP of which to be really proud.

Bill Orvis White

October 21st, 2011
9:30 am

It goes to show that the state should just say no to federal handouts, pure and simple.
Amen,
Bill

USinUK

October 21st, 2011
9:34 am

“Republicans are against Barry’s plans because they are proven failures”

BOLLOCKS

his policies turned GDP around

http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdp_glance.htm

Jay

October 21st, 2011
9:34 am

You guys repeating that “it’s only for one year” line crack me up.

As if, you’d support it if it were for five years, 10 years? What exactly are you trying to say here?

USinUK

October 21st, 2011
9:35 am

“Yea, Biden. Now there’s a VP of which to be really proud.”

well, he’s no Dan Quayle, but maybe if someone drops something heavy on Joe’s head, he can lower himself to Quayle’s mental capacity

MiltonMan

October 21st, 2011
9:35 am

Wow! Absolutely no mention of the former GDOL Commish – the unhonorable Demorat Mike Thurmond who had an almost $2 billion unemployment trust fund in 1999 only to fold to businesses & exempt them from paying the unemployemnt tax???

He tried to cover his back side by passing a 35% surcharge on state unemployment taxes as his last act in office.

But let the AJC continue with this “It’s Bush fault” or “The reps in this state have ruined GA” garbage.

AmVet

October 21st, 2011
9:35 am

Granted, Biden is no Cheney.

I’m not sure that even Agnew could fill those sewer-filled galoshes…

ty webb

October 21st, 2011
9:36 am

I bet it’s real fun playing monopoly with Jay, and his ilk…some contestants pay for the properties, yet everyone gets to “own” it…plus the game never ends.

Don't Tread

October 21st, 2011
9:36 am

Well, the answer is simple. Raise taxes. It’s the solution to everything. :roll:

Peadawg

October 21st, 2011
9:37 am

“You guys repeating that “it’s only for one year” line crack me up.”

So what happens after 1 year year, Jay, when they money runs out?

BTW, tt’s pretty convenient that 1 year from now is the 2012 election, don’t ya think?

Joe Hussein Mama

October 21st, 2011
9:38 am

JohnnyReb — “As a Republican, I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired of hearing Progressives who can’t think outside the party rhetoric state that Republicans would sell the country down the tubes just to keep Obama from being reelected. Wake up! Republicans are against Barry’s plans because they are proven failures.”

So, since it’s been proven that tax cuts don’t create jobs, can we reasonably assume that you’re against further tax cuts?

F. Sinkwich

October 21st, 2011
9:38 am

“1.) Do you make a million dollars a year? If not, you would NOT be paying for this.”

I was not aware that this proposed wealth-envy tax is to be earmarked for this specific purpose. Regardless…

“2.) Georgia has teachers. Georgia has firefighters. Georgia has police officers. I have no idea why
you brought, say, Detroit into the picture.”

It is not the responsibility of the Federal Government to provide these services. Period.

MiltonMan

October 21st, 2011
9:39 am

Yet another Demoratic congressman decides to “retire” and blasts Obama in is farewell speech.

Not worth reporting on Jay??? If this were a rep under the Bush admin, you would be all over it like flys on….

kayaker 71

October 21st, 2011
9:41 am

Bookman,

That is it only temporary….. this is nothing more than unemployment compensation. I have not heard Bozo once explain to his listeners that this thing is only good for one year then the states have to pick up the slack after that. This is an unfunded mandate that the states do not want to bear, especially in these times when money is tight. He’s going to use this as campaign fodder for 2012 when the states refuse to continue it. Hell, no one can afford it for more than one year, much less five or ten.

Ondray

October 21st, 2011
9:42 am

a plan to spend $35 billion keeping teachers, firefighters and police officers at their posts

Since when did payment for teachers, firefighters, and police officers become a responsibility of the federal government? Also, we know much of this money will come right back to the Democrat party from the forced union dues. Why should the Republicans vote for a bill to fund non federal employees that will also be pouring money into the campaigns to reelect Democrats?

MiltonMan

October 21st, 2011
9:43 am

Here is a shout-out to the rep leaders in this state:

Thank You for allowing the people to vote on being able to purchase alcohol on Sundays. The exact same thing that the dem loons in this state prevented for 130+ years while the grub worms were in charge.

Jm

October 21st, 2011
9:44 am

Mick

Re below. I’ve laid brick and I’ve tarred a roof :)

On topic

Classrooms won’t be empty. Prodigious reproduction will see to that.

Generation$crewed

October 21st, 2011
9:44 am

Jay

October 21st, 2011
9:34 am

I think they are saying…. who will be paying for all of those employees of the state after the year of federal money?

Is the state suddenly going to correct their budget crisis?

Or will we just spend another 35 billion again from the feds every year until the states can pay for their own stuff?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 21st, 2011
9:47 am

Pea, if it were 2 years, you’d bitch that it was affter the election, if it were 6 years, you’d bitch that it was after 2016 elections, etc., etc.

I bet that any teachers and 1st responders looking to be laid off or rehired are going to object to a time period of only 1 year with the hope that thing might improve and that the economy will generate enough revenue for cities and states to keep these people on. We’re not talking an expansion from their highest “employment levels” from years past, we are talking about stopping the bleeding of critical services while improving the economy. What is next, a whine about how there should be a “comprehensive bill”…. oh wait, there was. It was filibusted by ALL republicans.

mm

October 21st, 2011
9:47 am

Dems and Indies, we need to start rallying the troups so we can vote the GOP into the stoneage and shutup the wingnut morons on this blog once and for all.

Gary

October 21st, 2011
9:48 am

Yeah Bookman, we all know how good the goverment is at handling our cash. Can you explain to me why as a Cobb county resident I should vote for your 1 cent Beltline sales tax. Sure it is just a penny, but how does building a skate park in the forth ward help with traffic woes as part of a transportation project? Typical example of government waste. I know it is corporations who pay my bills and keep food on my table and a house over my head and a car in my driveway. It is not the federal government doing these things. Pretty sure good corporate profits will translate to increased returns in my 401k and other retirement packages. Mean while social security and medicare are fleeced by the government and crooks. I’ll keep my money in the private sector and set some asside to handle shocks in the economy. It is called responsibility. You should try asking people to take some. Listened to an NPR story on kids at UGA in athern going to a achool sponsered foodbank to get help. My thought, why are you going to a school that cost that much if you can’t put food on your table. I am sure there is a good college where you are from where you could live with your folks, work part time, and pay far less tuition and fees. Try GSU or Kennesaw State. Sorry Bookman, too many people make dumb choices and we shouldn’t bail them out. By the way those corporate profits payed back TARP with interest. How is the stimulis package doing in generating income?

MiltonMan

October 21st, 2011
9:48 am

Another shout out to the reps:

Thank you for coming ever so close for allowing us – the residents of North Fulton – to break away from Fulton County despite what the idiots like Mayor Reed, Commish “If you do not elect me, the residents of NF will turn the water hoses on you” Eaves, the “Rev” “I am going to sue the cities of NF because they are too white” Lowrey, Vincent Fort, etc., etc.

Jay

October 21st, 2011
9:49 am

Generation, the economy is slowly recovering, and state revenues are recovering as well. In September, they were up 5.6 percent from a year ago.

rwcole

October 21st, 2011
9:49 am

I just love the ‘wealth envy’ attack line when it seems to me that Republicans in this state are so jealous of poor people who have no money to pay taxes. Why can’t they recognize that if rich people and even middle class people pay the same taxes that the poor can afford to pay, then we’ll be living in a pretty crappy place. I’m willing to bet that over half of GA’s Republican base votes against their own best interest on a regular basis. They just can’t imagine having the same political interest as THOSE people.

Peadawg

October 21st, 2011
9:49 am

“Pea, if it were 2 years, you’d bitch that it was affter the election, if it were 6 years, you’d bitch that it was after 2016 elections, etc., etc.”

And if my aunt had a d* she’d be my uncle. More criticizing and not answering the simple question. What happens when money runs out after year?

MEGO

October 21st, 2011
9:49 am

Thanks Guy!! The story of my life!!

Thomas

October 21st, 2011
9:49 am

You guys repeating that “it’s only for one year” line crack me up.

uh- we are referring to the life span of the AJC- what are you referring to?

F. Sinkwich

October 21st, 2011
9:50 am

“Vice President Joseph Biden heralded the Energy Department’s $529 million loan to the start-up electric car company called Fisker as a bright new path to thousands of American manufacturing jobs. But two years after the loan was announced, the job of assembling the flashy electric Fisker Karma sports car has been outsourced to Finland.”

And Jay and his lib ilk around here want to raise more taxes so BarryO can invest those dollars so wisely!

:lol:

MiltonMan

October 21st, 2011
9:50 am

mm: “Dems and Indies, we need to start rallying the troups…”

Feel free. You guys might be able to generate a crowd of about 50 people in downtown ATL with 25 of them being bused in courtesy of Obozo’s (the taxpayers) buses.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 21st, 2011
9:51 am

Gary — “By the way those corporate profits payed back TARP with interest.”

Nope.

The federal government *gave up* more in tax income than it earned in TARP-related interest.

TARP monies *are* being paid back with interest, true. But that’s only part of the story, and the other part is that there were tax receipts left on the table as part of that deal.

Jm

October 21st, 2011
9:51 am

Off topic

Let’s talk ATL property tax bills for a second. Atlanta residents are getting cremated on taxes if you have a reasonably valuable home at the expense of those who have the cheapest homes. And I’ll say it, the poor are ripping of the rich, and I’ll prove it. I’m all for some progressivity, but this is insane.

I have two homes in Atlanta. One in a poorer neighborhood, one in a more prosperous neighborhood.

The “nice” home is worth five times as much as the “not nice home”. But the property tax bill is, get this, 100 times as much. You can thank the rapidly increasing homestead exemption for that.

The propert tax bill for the “cheap ” home: $75. For the “nice” home: $7,000.

A home worth 5 times more should not have a property tax bill 100 times more. Insanity in the ATL.

President Obama

October 21st, 2011
9:53 am

Look people, you just have to get me through next year, then I can worry about solving any real problem long term. Seriously, what are you going to do? Vote republican. I am your only Hope. Banks are stealing from you. Corporate planes. Cats keep getting fat. We got to take their cat food. Help the poor. Kill the rich. No one earns money they just take it. Blah blah blah.

Joe Hussein Mama

October 21st, 2011
9:54 am

Jm — “The “nice” home is worth five times as much as the “not nice home”. But the property tax bill is, get this, 100 times as much. You can thank the rapidly increasing homestead exemption for that.”

“The propert tax bill for the “cheap ” home: $75. For the “nice” home: $7,000.”

“A home worth 5 times more should not have a property tax bill 100 times more. Insanity in the ATL.”

Maybe you can move to another municipality where the taxes are more to your liking. Isn’t that what our conservative friends are always warning us about if business taxes go too high?

Seems to me that it is a lot simpler to move your domicile than it is to move an entire business.

Generation$crewed

October 21st, 2011
9:54 am

Jay

October 21st, 2011
9:49 am

It is your opinion then that the state will be able to afford to keep all of the teachers and firefighters and policemen that the government is going to pay for?

You are making the prediction the economy will be turned around that much 1 year from now?

Guy Incognito

October 21st, 2011
9:54 am

“Occupy Atlanta’s march to Buckhead fizzled Thursday after some participants apparently lost their way on MARTA. ”

Hilarious!!!!!!!!! Nice Move

Granny Godzilla

October 21st, 2011
9:54 am

Go ahead. Keep it up righties.

This is the kind of stuff that will make a second term for President Obama a reality.

Jm

October 21st, 2011
9:55 am

$75. Yep, not a typo. $75.

What has gone wrong with this world?

stands for decibels

October 21st, 2011
9:56 am

But I suppose that’s a sacrifice that the rest of us should be happy to make, given how they’re struggling in this economy.

Yep.

I see the bitter right wing shut-ins are especially hideous this morning. I guess they get extra-cranky when the weather turns a bit chilly.

Obozonomics

October 21st, 2011
9:56 am

carlosgv;
Once again you are being ignorant; Obozo received more money from big business\corporations than any president ever. But don’t let the facts get in the way of you wrong conclusions.

Jay

October 21st, 2011
9:57 am

Poor jm. He owns two homes, and is upset that property taxes aren’t higher on cheaper homes. Of course, that would force some low-income or fixed-incom residents of those homes to default on their loans or taxes, which would mean more vacant houses and more homeless ….

Bottom line: Those lucky poor people.

Jm

October 21st, 2011
9:57 am

Joe mama

Did that. I’m in FL 90% of the time now. But I won’t be selling the homes in Atlanta anytime soon.

Why don’t you address the substance of the point: that Atlanta’s property tax system is insanely progressive.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 21st, 2011
9:58 am

Pea, your personal family issues are yours to deal with but since you whined without reading, I already told you. In one year, the improved economy provides enough to pay (versus hiring a year from now), if needed an extension is given or worse, you lay them off in a year. You still had a year of critical services met and kept those individuals who you spent thousands training around in anticipation of the recovery. Or does the sense and sensibility of that fail to overcome your need to focus on body parts?

Generation$crewed

October 21st, 2011
9:58 am

Granny Godzilla

October 21st, 2011
9:54 am

So do you think the democrats who voted against the bill will lose their bid for re-election next time they are up?

Don't Tread

October 21st, 2011
9:58 am

“What has gone wrong with this world?”

One word: liberalism.

Gordon

October 21st, 2011
9:59 am

“Go ahead. Keep it up righties.

This is the kind of stuff that will make a second term for President Obama a reality.”

You’re right, Granny. And one of us want that. Everyone pipe down.

Gordon

October 21st, 2011
9:59 am

I meant “none of us want that”. Come to think of it, maybe I was right the first time.

Peadawg

October 21st, 2011
10:00 am

” In one year, the improved economy provides enough to pay” – That’s a very very bold prediction.

Jm

October 21st, 2011
10:00 am

Jay 9:57

Well, frankly that’s what I’m saying. If I were back in Atlanta and sold one, I’d sell the “nice” house and live in the “poor house” instantly, even though I’d be making plenty.

Don’t you see that the way they’ve set it up, that the taxes are no longer correlated with the services provided, and that was the original intent. Guess not.

When people don’t pay property taxes, the city goes down the toilet. Wait, it already is……

Obozonomics

October 21st, 2011
10:01 am

Jay, the one year thing is very simple, Obozo it trying to buy votes till after the election, if he is so concerned why not make permanent changes…

Tech '10

October 21st, 2011
10:02 am

Jay, I was wondering if you could bring some insight to this. What exactly in the bill did the reublicans reject? I am fairly ignorant to the bill in question, so first off apologies, but it seems to me that there may be a part of the bill they did not like, as opposed to the whole thing. (this is assuming they are acting like adults.) If the previous statement is true, would it not be beneficial to implement a line item legislation, where the presenters of the bill can focus on the items rejected instead of going over the whole bill again?

President Obama

October 21st, 2011
10:03 am

70% percent of you support a tax on the rich. So I am going to do it. 70% of Non puertoricans support a tax on puertoricans. So I am going to do it. 70% of of non cat owners support a tax on cat owners. SO I am going to do it. 70% of non ice cream shop owners think ice cream should be free. So I am going to do it. 90% percent of you think goverment is a disaster that can’t fix anything, but you are wrong because that impacts me so I am going to waste your money and make it grow.

real john

October 21st, 2011
10:03 am

Jay,

Considering a study just came out yesterday stating that Washington D.C. is now the wealthest major metropolitan area in the U.S., I think the federal workers are doing just fine. Now, I know that teachers and officers are more municipality workers, but the point is the same.

The study indicated the average federal worker in the D.C. area makes $127,000 a year (with benefits included). Is it a wonder that the D.C. housing market has been the strongest anywhere?

Listen, I appreciate the job teachers and responders do, but I get sick and tired of hearing the sob stories how they need more money from their unions. Teachers works about 60% as much as a private sector employee works and gets very generous benefits. Don’t tell me their yearly salary is way below average…its not. Statistics will prove that point.

All Obama’s plan is another stimulus plan. Just like the first stimulus plan, we are basically borrowing money to keep jobs for a short amount of time. What happens in a year from now, Obama will ask to borrow more money. The bottom line is the teachers and fed employee union leaders are going to have to concede that we as taxpayers cannot continue these lifetime pension benefits. We simply do not have the money.

You know Obama promised all of these “shovel ready jobs” in the first stimulus. Where are all of these bridges, highways, infracture???? Oh yeah, I forgot, billions were paid to unions and who knows where most of the money is…

Bookman, you are a smart guy, how can you still defend this President. He has absolutely no idea how to run an economy. While I’m pretty sure you will never admit it on this blog, you have to be secretly thinking this guy has no clue as to what he is doing

Generation$crewed

October 21st, 2011
10:04 am

Jay,

Still waiting, you predicting the economy will be recovered enough to pay for all of these state employees, or will we be getting the federal government to pay for state workers again in one year?

stands for decibels

October 21st, 2011
10:04 am

What the heck, I’m gonna paste this again, because it’s more on-topic than ever…

“[I]f the deficit fetishists actually cared about the deficit they’d understand that the best way to get rid of it is economic growth. There is no evidence at the moment that the deficit is having any negative impact on economic growth through higher interest rates, so the lack of growth is due to something else. Fix the economy, fix the deficit.

“But they don’t care about the deficit, the care about cutting spending. They don’t care about cutting spending on freedom bombs and perpetual war everywhere, they care about cutting spending for old people and poor people. They aren’t noble fiscal hawks, they’re just bad people who enjoy the suffering of others.

I can’t put it any more simply or clearly than that.

Jm

October 21st, 2011
10:05 am

Jay. I hardly think a $300 property tax bill on someone who owns a home would put them over the edge. If so, they shouldn’t own a home.

And they’d be paying a small portion of the police road fire and other infrastructure services they receive.

As it is, they’re just free riding.

If one home had a bill 10x higher, I might not be thrilled, but I’d say ok. 100x higher?????????????

That is insane.

President Obama

October 21st, 2011
10:07 am

Lets make life fair like the constitution says. You have the right to hate successfull people and take their stuff and blame them for everything worng in your life. It’s in there. I swear. You don’t need to read it. Jefferson was all about hating rich people and being fair.

Jm

October 21st, 2011
10:07 am

Jay don’t you keep saying people need to pay for the services they want? I agree.

I just don’t think a few homeowners should pay the bill for everyone.

Granny Godzilla

October 21st, 2011
10:07 am

Generation Screwed

Niether Nelson and Lieberman are running for re-election. I suspect they are plannning for a corporate career….

Don’t know enough about Pryor from Ark to say….

Jm

October 21st, 2011
10:08 am

Is it any wonder when people retire they immediately move out of the city of Atlanta?

Nope…….

Talking Head

October 21st, 2011
10:10 am

As long as we have opposing forces at place, this economy will never get any better. You can’t contiually spend federal dollars hoping that it will not only stimulate the economy (which is easy) but also sustain and grow (which hasn’t happend, nor will it ever) the economy. Then at the same time point the finger at businesses for not hiring! What kind of business climate have you created Washington!

Matti's Rapture Time?

October 21st, 2011
10:10 am

Tech ‘10: “What exactly in the bill did the republicans reject?’

The possibility that anything might bet better for even one struggling American citizen with a Democrat in the White House.

SouthernGal

October 21st, 2011
10:10 am

Momma taught me to always have a “rainy day fund”…our illustrious leaders rolled back the Unemployment tax on employers…look at the mess they created!

If our leaders were truly wanting the rich to pay their “fair share” not only would the increase their INCOME tax liability…they would also increase the capital gains (in excess of 1million dollars) tax as well as tax their WEALTH!

Generation$crewed

October 21st, 2011
10:11 am

Granny Godzilla

October 21st, 2011
10:07 am

K was just curious how you claimed it would cause people who didn’t even vote on it an election against the guy who came up with the plan, but you failed to mention anything about some who actually voted on the bill?

Weird, I am sure it had nothing to do with republican and democrat. It was just you speaking from the heart!

Mike

October 21st, 2011
10:11 am

So, since things are looking a little better at the State level, we should be eager to spend, spend, spend? No wonder we are always broke.

MEGO

October 21st, 2011
10:11 am

Hey Firts on Both pages….that surely has to be a sign

MEGO

October 21st, 2011
10:12 am

First…..geez

Alex

October 21st, 2011
10:14 am

Nationalize all public sector workers, hire all unemployed to work for the federal govt., raise taxes to 99% on all income, food stamps to all, free health care to all, free housing vouchers, free education, free childcare. after all money is just paper. not like money represents someone’s effort.
have a nice day….

Steve - USA

October 21st, 2011
10:15 am

SouthernGal@10:10

That post explains why Republicans won’t give an inch because they know if they do the Democrats still wont be happy and go for the mile. A wealth tax?!

You could repeal the Bush tax cuts today and tomorrow the Dem’s would say “we want more”.

Granny Godzilla

October 21st, 2011
10:16 am

AmVet

October 21st, 2011
10:16 am

This topic is just the latest example of how it is that whenever the discourse turns to analysis, that is based on pertinent facts and corroborated evidence, the neo-cons lose. Virtually every time.

It could be argued that our neo-cons are just particularly dense and/or ignorant and are not representative of right wing intellect as a whole.

But I don’t think so.

I have listened to and read the writings of BushCorp and Boehner and Herman and Michelle and Newt and Rush and lots of others in their mini-army of simplistic, sophist propagandists.

Whether it is in regards to climatology, foreign policy or economics.

Regarding fact-free rhetoric, trite platitudes and logical fallacies by the score?

They hold their own and oftentimes dominate…

janie hopwood

October 21st, 2011
10:16 am

not! I have no representatives.

Mike

October 21st, 2011
10:17 am

Some in his own party realize what a “scam” this whole deal is. Snake oil , anyone?

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/senate-rejects-big-piece-1206875.html

Jay

October 21st, 2011
10:17 am

Tech, this IS the “line-item” version of the bill. The GOP blocked a vote on the larger jobs bill, so the Dems are now proposing pieces of it. In this case, the GOP blocked it because they didn’t like spending money on public-sector jobs, and because they didn’t like how the spending would be funded (through the surtax on million-dollar incomes).

Granny Godzilla

October 21st, 2011
10:18 am

GS

What?

Is there a question or statement in that word salad you would like
an answer or response on?

justwondering

October 21st, 2011
10:18 am

Wow! Absolutely no mention of the former GDOL Commish – the unhonorable Demorat Mike Thurmond who had an almost $2 billion unemployment trust fund in 1999 only to fold to businesses & exempt them from paying the unemployemnt tax???

Regarding Milton Man’s above comment….is it true that the labor commissioner has that kind of sole responsibility in the state of Georgia? Does the legislature have any say or responsibility in determining and/or legislating unemployment tax rates for businesses? And does the governor have any power related to the unemployment tax rate?