Tonight, travelin’ music that is very well-traveled indeed
I posted a more traditional, sedate version of this much-traveled song earlier, in the post about the coming end of U.S. military involvement in Iraq. It began its life as “Johnny I Hardly Knew Ye,” an early 19th-century Irish folksong that bewails the fate of Irishmen lured into fighting on Britain’s behalf overseas.
From there it became a favorite song of the U.S. Civil War, insinuating itself into the American military tradition as “When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again.” As kids, we used to sing our own playground parody of the song, in that case about ants that go “marching down, to the ground, to get out of the rain….”
And here, with their own much-different version, the great English band the Clash, from 1979:
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Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
12:55 pm
LSwho will be running the Barack Obama offense when they face the no. 1 rated defense in the nation at Alabama. Nothing will work.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
12:56 pm
doomy.
He did not say that but he is usually wrong and probably con
Your team looked terrible in the first half.
I bet saban lost it again in that locker room..
LSU put too much pressure on saban and he can’t handle it.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
12:58 pm
Our three fake weed smokers will be back for that game.
The Ware -Hilliard combo will crush the tide.
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
12:59 pm
getalife:
God will judge. I have place my trust in His Son as He requested.
I think he crossed it ………. by a few inches.
Jake
October 23rd, 2011
1:00 pm
Ooo. Voter guide is up.
For President
Obama: vote no
Romney: vote yes for prosperity
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
1:00 pm
Falcons & the Lions almost got into it already !
This will be a game !!!
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
1:01 pm
Obama : Vote No
Whoever is the alternate choice : Vote Yes
Jake
October 23rd, 2011
1:01 pm
Getalife needs Obama
The other 99% of us don’t
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
1:04 pm
scout,
A real Christian knows it is a sin to believe in false prophets like Joe Smith.
Magic underwear and marrying underage wives is not Christian.
Jake
October 23rd, 2011
1:08 pm
Arabs don’t have springs
Only oasis’
Getalife is playing games about religion. Sad
Jake
October 23rd, 2011
1:11 pm
Libya will devolve into anarchy
Good job Obama
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
1:12 pm
cons tossing their religion because of their ideology too vote for a Mormon is sad.
Of course, scout tossed the troops winning a war in Libya because of his ideology is even worse.
scout stands for nothing but failed ideology and a failed 1 % party.
Rebut that cons.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
1:17 pm
It is up to their people what kind of government they want.
Freedom is a American priciple.
You cons tossed that too.
What in the world do you stand for cons.?
Mick
October 23rd, 2011
1:22 pm
**Auburn is running the Barack Obama offense. Nothing is working”**
My first thought would be, what a jerk…
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
1:23 pm
Mick,
doomy lied as usual.
He did not say that.
Jake
October 23rd, 2011
1:28 pm
Getalife u dont believe in freedom
Or do you dislike the individual mandate?
Jake
October 23rd, 2011
1:30 pm
Getalife
Hillary and Obama fought for a loong time
Didn’t hurt Obama
Won’t hurt Romney
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
1:30 pm
Jake:
getalife is a little, shall we say ………… “different”.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
1:31 pm
jm,
Tell us what you stand for.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
1:32 pm
scout,
What do you stand for?
Jake
October 23rd, 2011
1:33 pm
Getalife
Freedom and economic opportunity
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
1:37 pm
jm,
Freedom?
Lie, you don’t support Freedom for Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, protesters, etc….
Economic opportunity for the 1 % and not the 99 % when you are the 99 %.
Your turn scout.
Kamchak
October 23rd, 2011
1:38 pm
Romney will do better
Romney won’t be in the general election
Jake
October 23rd, 2011
1:39 pm
Getalife
Yes I do (support their liberation)
I don’t support neoconism lite
Jm
October 23rd, 2011
1:43 pm
Getalife
Economic opportunity is for everyone
The 1% can deal with regs and an arcane tax code
The 99% need simple regs and simple taxes
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
1:43 pm
jm,
You have no idea what you stand for because you will toss it to “get our President” like scout.
bman
October 23rd, 2011
1:46 pm
Kamchak ….Romney is the front-runner. If he does win the nomination, and if the economy does not improve, I believe he will easily beat Obama.
Kamchak
October 23rd, 2011
1:50 pm
Romney is the front-runner.
Yes, for now.
Evangelicals will not choose him in the primary. I look for a surge in the polls for Perry. He is the only one that can pass the evangelical purity test.
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
1:59 pm
getalife:
What do I stand for?
Absolute Truth ……….. in this order.
Theological
Historical
Political
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
2:01 pm
Kam,
perry’s liberal positions fail the con purity test so newt is the next con hope.
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
2:03 pm
“Louisiana Gov. (Republican) Bobby Jindal on Saturday easily coasted to a second term, winning in a landslide election after failing to attract any well-known or deep-pocketed opposition.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/22/louisiana-gov-bobby-jindal-expected-to-coast-to-re-election/?test=latestnews#ixzz1bd4tPGa7
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
2:04 pm
Theological- vote for a Mormon
Historical- failures
Political- anything to “get our President”.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
2:06 pm
jindal wins to prove high unemployment and bad economy does not matter to cons.
Great news for President Obama.
The turn out was horrible.
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
2:09 pm
getalife:
You asked an honest question.
I gave an honest answer.
Then you just become ………….. well …………….. getalife.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
2:11 pm
scout,
You mean honest.
Just call em like I see em.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
2:12 pm
getalife,
Before you go calling someone a liar you should do your research. Danielson did in fact refer to the “Barack Obama Auburn offense. Nothing was working” when Auburn was going backwards and had something like 3rd and 25. Google getalife. Its something you should learn how to use. The apology window is open for business getalife.
http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/play/collegefootball/guCbvNPZNuzXovpp1k4K1VRp5IAlk6Vg
Kamchak
October 23rd, 2011
2:16 pm
getalife
Newt is an ego-maniacal serial adulterer. He will be destroyed by his fellow candidates during the process. Evangelicals can be convinced Perry is sincere, so his positions can be overlooked. If there was credible evidence that a con SCOTUS justice was stepping down within five years, we would see a serious candidate rather than this bunch of posers.
Just like it took Clinton two terms to clean up the St. Ronnie-of-the-RayGun mess, it will take at least that long to address the death of trickle-on phlogiston economics. By then, a con SC justice will be stepping down, and the Republican nominee will be buying votes with the promise of tax cuts — starting with the rich.
Just like Bush.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
2:16 pm
Mick,
I don’t particularly like politics being injected into sports either. Of course no one in the media seems to have a problem with ultra liberal Keith Olberman and some of his comments in the past so one little remark by Danielson shouldn’t be that big a deal. For us cons it was nothing short of hilarious but I can certainly understand why some liberals wouldn’t be too happy about it.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
2:18 pm
doomy,
My bad.They did hold up a sign of the President and it was the Obama offense but you chose to make it political and he said it was not.
You are wrong but did not lie.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
2:19 pm
Kamchak
October 23rd, 2011
2:16 pm
getalife
“Slick Willie is an ego-maniacal serial adulterer”.
This almost seems like work having to constantly correct people’s typos.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
2:23 pm
Kam,
Great points but the failures of the last cowboy from Texas are so bad even the cons can’t deny.
I still think it is willard’s turn to lose to our President but with the cons changing their principles and values to “get our President”, you could be right.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
2:24 pm
doomy,
Still fascinated with clenis is weird.
Kamchak
October 23rd, 2011
2:27 pm
Of course no
one in the mediasilly cons seem to have a problem withultra liberal Keith OlbermanRush Limbaugh and some of his comments in the past…This almost seems like work having to constantly correct people’s typos.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
2:33 pm
BTW, the sign of the President was always a pass play and LSU knew it.
His comment was not political but doomy just could not help himself to make it political.
After newt and all the gop sex scandals, doomy has no argument on Clinton.
Mick
October 23rd, 2011
2:39 pm
doom
That’s just it, I don’t care about people’s political beliefs it’s their business, but injecting into sports, that’s just what we don’t need. Weird dolphin game where they are honoring the 09 gator championship team at halftime in miami. Tebow is qb for denver, very strange crowd with the 0-5 dolphins sinking low…
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
2:41 pm
Thulsa:
Let’s be honest ……….. not just “adulterer” as one woman accused him of sexual assault (in the White House) and another of “rape”.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 23rd, 2011
2:43 pm
Well, long as you don’t take your womenfolks to Newt’s rallys it’s OK to support him. If you take them with you he’ll make them support him, if you know what I mean. He e-mails me every week. Says this poll and that poll shows he’s in the lead. Them lying papers! They’re telling us he’s 6th or 7th or something like that. I reckon old Newt would know where he stands and he wouldn’t lie to us, would he?
Have a good Sabbath everybody.
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
2:46 pm
“not just “adulterer” as one woman accused him of sexual assault (in the White House) and another of “rape”.”
Accused, but not convicted. There’s no proof that those women were telling the truth.
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
2:47 pm
Thulsa:
From 2005:
“Kathleen Willey and Juanita Broaddrick, two women who both claim they were sexually assaulted by ex-President Bill Clinton, plan to tour the William J. Clinton Presidential Library and Museum in Little Rock, Ark. ….
“Juanita, Kathleen, and I will be touring the Clinton Library to see firsthand how it portrays Bill and Hillary Clinton’s treatment of women,” says Candice Jackson, author of “Their Lives: The Women Targeted by the Clinton Machine.”
Broaddrick alleges then-Gov. Clinton raped her during a conference in Little Rock in 1978, and Willey says Clinton sexually assaulted her when she worked in the White House in 1993. Both also charge that Clinton’s inner circle – including wife Hillary Rodham Clinton – subsequently attempted to pressure and intimidate them into silence.
Willey claims she was subjected to a series of physical and verbal threats intended to pressure her to keep the assault in the Oval Office secret, and Broaddrick says three weeks after being raped she was approached at an event by a forceful Hillary who thanked her for “everything that you do” for Bill. Jackson notes many other women have also reported similar treatment at the hands of Bill and Hillary Clinton.”
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
2:48 pm
Doggone/GA:
You are correct. They never had their day in court …………… and the one time Bill Clinton did have to testify under oath he perjured himself.
Enough said.
1811/0311
October 23rd, 2011
2:48 pm
Be nice to each other …………….. out for the day !
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
2:49 pm
THANK GOD THE TROOPS are coming home. too bad they died for BUSH’S lie
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
2:50 pm
Getalife,
When Danielson said that AU was running the Barack Obama offense and that nothing was working I think his statement speaks for itself. He maybe didn’t mean for it to be political but it came off that way nonetheless. I will accept your sort of half apology that I did not lie but was just wrong. I will accept it only because you clearly are not man enough to man up and apologize for calling me a liar when in your half apology you readily admitted that I did not lie. Pathetic.
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
2:51 pm
“Enough said”
How about this “enough”? I say you raped me last year. You now stand as an accused rapist.
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
2:52 pm
if DUMB DUBYA IS a christian like he claims, why didnt he pray and ask for guidiance before he started butchering inocent IRAQIS? COULDNT god have told him if WMD’S was there or not? lol anyway we now have a competent president and not some phony tough milquetoast cowboy
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
2:54 pm
maybe OBAMA should put on his G.I. JOE jumpsuit like DUBYA did and declare ,” mission accomplished”
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
2:57 pm
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
2:46 pm
“not just “adulterer” as one woman accused him of sexual assault (in the White House) and another of “rape”.”
Accused, but not convicted. There’s no proof that those women were telling the truth.- Doggone
Doggone,
There were about 7 women who claimed to have affairs with Clinton including Broderick who didn’t have an affair but claimed to have been raped. Yes. I’m sure 7 women are all lying of course and slick Willie is the only truth teller in this. They are all just lying of course. You must be one of those strange thinkin folks who think that all 7 of these women are liars while Anita Hill, the only woman who charged Judge Clarence Thomas with sexual harassment, was telling the truth. Such is the bizarro world of the far left. Oh, and even if what Anita Hill were true then it meant that at worst Judge Thomas was guilty of a little bit of dirty talk. This is a woman who after all followed the man from job to job to job. And last of course I thought I might let you know that the NOW women including its president came out publicly and stated that they found Juanita Broderick’s accusations to be “crediblt”. Just a little factoid you may have left out.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
2:58 pm
Make that credible. Typos. Kammy poo where are you to correct my typo?
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
2:59 pm
“There were about 7 women who claimed to have affairs with Clinton including Broderick who didn’t have an affair but claimed to have been raped”
Accused, but not convicted. Shall I accuse you of rape too, and see how YOU like it?
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
3:00 pm
scout is locked on clenis too.
Let go of the clenis weirdo.
President Clinton gave us peace and prosperity.
w gave us two lost occupations, a collapsed economy and a destroyed country.
Look at actions and outcome of those actions scouty.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:00 pm
liberallefty,
Or maybe Obama should thank Bush for the surge which pretty much wiped out the last of the major resistance in Iraq. Just thought I would help you out with the facts ma’am.
Kamchak
October 23rd, 2011
3:02 pm
if DUMB DUBYA IS a christian like he claims, why didnt he pray and ask for guidiance before he started butchering inocent IRAQIS? COULDNT god have told him if WMD’S was there or not?
It turns out that Bush wasn’t necessarily looking for WMDs.
Here’s a story we should all be ashamed of missing: George W Bush attempted to sell the invasion of Iraq to Jacques Chirac using biblical prophecy.
In the winter of 2003, when George Bush and Tony Blair were frantically gathering support for their planned invasion, Professor Thomas Römer, an Old Testament expert at the university of Lausanne, was rung up by the Protestant Federation of France. They asked him to supply them with a summary of the legends surrounding Gog and Magog and as the conversation progressed, he realised that this had originally come, from the highest reaches of the French government.
President Jacques Chirac wanted to know what the hell President Bush had been on about in their last conversation. Bush had then said that when he looked at the Middle East, he saw “Gog and Magog at work” and the biblical prophecies unfolding. But who the hell were Gog and Magog? Neither Chirac nor his office had any idea. But they knew Bush was an evangelical Christian, so they asked the French Federation of Protestants, who in turn asked Professor Römer.
He explained that Gog and Magog were, to use theological jargon, crazy talk.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
3:02 pm
Ryan is out by his own lineman.
Falcons defense is whooping the Lions offensive line.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:03 pm
Accused, but not convicted. Shall I accuse you of rape too, and see how YOU like it?- Doggone
Doggone,
You simply lack scale, perspective, and reasoning ability. There is a difference between when one accuser makes an accusation and 7 different accusers are making an accusation towards you. If your mind can’t understand that then I just can’t help you. I can’t make it any simpler for you.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:06 pm
Oh lawdy,Kammy the poo is trying to play the Bush is a religious nutcase card. And his proof? An opinion piece from a far left kook on a ultra far left publication like the guardian. Credibility? Sorely lacking. Please delete your previous post and try again using a source of credibility.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
3:08 pm
doomy,
They wanted their fifteen minutes.
No convictions is the truth.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:09 pm
getalife,
Why do they call LSU’s stadium “death valley”?
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
3:10 pm
doomy,
You can’t debate and lose every argument because you deny the truth.
w did use that argument because Chirac confirmed it.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
3:11 pm
doomy,
Ask Auburn.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:12 pm
Getalife,
Yes. Of course. All those women accusing Clinton are of course all liars and the one woman accusing Judge Clarence Thomas of nothing more than dirty talk is telling the truth of course. Such is life in lefty liberal bizarro kook world.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
3:16 pm
doomy,
We like playas in this country.
Just because you cons are sexually frustrated and our President won a war, you are lashing out.
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
3:18 pm
Ryan is back.
My bad.
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
3:20 pm
“You simply lack scale, perspective, and reasoning ability. There is a difference between when one accuser makes an accusation and 7 different accusers are making an accusation towards you”
No, there isn’t. There could be 1000 accusers, but if there is no evidence that what they are saying is true…then they have no accusation.
It’s despicable to bring up accustaions that have no foundation of evidence, just because you don’t like the accused. No matter how much you, or anyone else, wishes it were true, ACCUSED IS NOT CONVICTED.
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:22 pm
@thulsa3:00
sorry but we never would have been there anyway if not for BUSH’S LIES. HE DESERVES NO CREDIT
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
3:22 pm
“Of course. All those women accusing Clinton are of course all liars”
Yes, they could very well be.
” and the one woman accusing Judge Clarence Thomas of nothing more than dirty talk is telling the truth of course”
Not a given.
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:24 pm
BUSH is the worst president ever. couldnt defend america on 9/11 and squandered billions on 2 wars. and what have we won? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:26 pm
clarence thomas is a sexual deviant and if THURGOOD MARSHALL hadnt been black, UNCLE CLARENCE wouldnt have been nominated. i think he knows that, its obvious too everyone else
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
3:28 pm
“clarence thomas is a sexual deviant”
got any proof of that?
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:31 pm
@doggone
nope, but i believe anita hill. theres a reason THOMAS refuse to take lie detector test even though its not admissable for evidence.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:31 pm
Liberal lefty with the uncle tom card,
Doggone with the all those women are just making accusations and they are all liars card,
and getalife with the blame w card.
The kook left has never been more bizarre.
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
3:34 pm
“Doggone with the all those women are just making accusations and they are all liars card,”
but I never said they were lying, I said there was no proof they were telling the truth. That is not accusing them of lying, it is only accusing them of LACK OF PROOF.
Paulo977
October 23rd, 2011
3:34 pm
Even the Pope?
http://www.google.com/search?q=Vatican’s+economic+statement+will+be+to+the+left+of+wall+street+financiers&hl=en&sa=G&prmd=ivnsu&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&ei=q2ukTvbSJOXg0QGq4cT8Bg&ved=0CBgQqAI
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:34 pm
liberal lefty,
And how many supreme court justices have been asked to do the indignity of taking a lie detector test? Lemme know when you can figure that one out genius.
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:34 pm
@thulsa
heres a fac t: dubya got made a fool of on 9/11 in front of the whole world.
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:36 pm
@thulsa
how many were accused of sexual misconduct like CLARENCE WAS? CLARENCE WAS the rights “darling negro” to replace the “radical negro”, lol. affirmative action racist GOP style
Kamchak
October 23rd, 2011
3:37 pm
Oh lawdy,Kammy the poo is trying to play the Bush is a religious nutcase card.
Away from his handlers Bush offered this spontaneous quote, “this crusade, this war on terrorism, is going to take awhile.”
The White House then had to walk back the word “crusade” because using it was just stupid.
The POTUS should have known that “crusade” was an inflammatory word.
A religious nut-case, however, wouldn’t have known that.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:37 pm
doggone,
Going by your logic then perhaps those crazy Muslims are right after all when they say a rape isn’t really a rape unless there are 4 male witnesses there to verify that it was actually indeed a rape. And I guess all the women in the country who say they are sexually harassed or raped are without credibility if they have no “proof” other than their own word going by your logic. Sorry but for once I will defer to the girls over at NOW who publicly stated that Juanita Broderick’s accusations were “credible”. Take it up with them ma’am.
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:38 pm
i’m glad OBAMA has kept america safe unlike DUMB DUBYA on 9/11
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
3:38 pm
“how many were accused of sexual misconduct like CLARENCE WAS?”
Looks like you are in the same boat as TD – accused is not convicted
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:41 pm
Oh my,
Bush says the word “crusade” and they lefties go apeshyte. Good grief. Someone call the liberal speech police. Can we please call some of those speech police off of college campuses and have them arrest W for saying a word that they don’t like. And of course Obama has never misspoken has he?I would hate for the speech police to come for him too.
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:42 pm
@doggone
i believe anita hill and i believe the women who accused CLINTON, at least some of them
liberalefty
October 23rd, 2011
3:44 pm
@thulsa
its not BUSH’S speech we object to, it was his incredibly stupid policies,choices that he made
getalife
October 23rd, 2011
3:46 pm
It’s a war but the Falcons should win this one.
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
3:47 pm
“Going by your logic then perhaps those crazy Muslims are right after all when they say a rape isn’t really a rape unless there are 4 male witnesses there to verify that it was actually indeed a rape”
You need to update what you think you know about accusations of rape in Islam.
http://www.bismikaallahuma.org/archives/2006/does-islam-require-four-witnesses-for-rape/
“Sorry but for once I will defer to the girls over at NOW who publicly stated that Juanita Broderick’s accusations were “credible”. ”
“credible” is not the same as proven. Accused is not convicted.
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
3:47 pm
“i believe anita hill and i believe the women who accused CLINTON, at least some of them”
And belief is not proof
Midori
October 23rd, 2011
3:50 pm
I can’t believe in this day and age the Juanita Brodderick card is still being “played”.
Does that give me a free pass to play the Margie Schoedinger card?
http://www.opednews.com/thoreau1103bush_rape_suicide.htm
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:50 pm
liberallefty,
Yes. And of course Obama’s policies are soooooo much better than Ws. We loves that 1% economic growth in the first 6 months of the year and of course over 9 % unemployment. And we loves the 4.25 trillion in debt Obama has added in less than 3 years. Things are sooooo good under Obama. WIth any luck he will have a second term and then we can happily have a recession, 15% unemploymnet, and add 10 trillion in new debt. Such is the Orwellian world of the bizarro left where I guy who is ruining the country right before your very eyes is lauded as having good policies. The bizarro world of the kook left where up is down, black is white, and unicorns frolick.
Thulsa Doom
October 23rd, 2011
3:53 pm
Doggone,
And of course Kaddafyhi was only accused”BUT NOT CONVICTED” of killing thousands of his own countrymen. He wa’s probably innocent too.
Doggone/GA
October 23rd, 2011
3:53 pm
TD – trust me on this, we are REALLY, REALLY sorry you didn’t get the miracles you didn’t vote for
Jackie
October 23rd, 2011
3:53 pm
I believe if one would read about Judge Lillian McEwen and her book about her relationship with Clarence Thomas prior to his marriage, one could not help but conclude there is lots of corroboration about Judge Thomas’ conduct relative to Anita Hill.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/reliable-source/2011/02/rs-_mcewen.html