Obama: By end of year, ‘America’s war in Iraq will be over’
President Obama:
“As promised, the rest of our troops in Iraq will come home by the end of year. After nearly 9 years, America’s war in Iraq will be over. Over the next two months, our troops in Iraq– tens of thousands of them — will pack up their gear and board convoys for the journey home. The last Americans soldiers will cross the border out of Iraq with their heads held high. proud of their success and knowing that the American people stand united in our support for our troops. That is how America’s military efforts in Iraq will end. “
UPDATE AT 3:35:
Here’s the response of Mitt Romney, the GOP frontrunner:
“President Obama’s astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women. The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. The American people deserve to hear the recommendations that were made by our military commanders in Iraq.”
Romney aside, I think the news deserves an early kickoff of Friday Traveling Music (a separate version will be posted later:
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Granny Godzilla
October 21st, 2011
2:37 pm
We are 99%….of the problem.
October 21st, 2011
2:31 pm
Thank you President Bush for establishing this time line and thank you to the current administration for maintaining it. Well done.
and thank you President Obama for suggesting the plan in April 2007, whilst the GOP was still hollering “cut and run” and Thank you President Bush for finally putting it in writing after President Obama was elected
he had to have some positive legacy I guess….
better late than never
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
October 21st, 2011
2:37 pm
The “surge” that you Permanent War boys wanted, but are so damn cowardly won’t even admit to?
Spare me the deflections away from the criminal heroes that you voted for and supported every botched step of the way.
Had BHO gotten those guys out of Quagmire, Part Deux immediately upon his election – which is what I said he should do – YOU and your gang of never-served, never-will militarists would have raised holy hell.
So save your pious indignation for somebody dumb enough to fall for it…
ty webb
October 21st, 2011
2:38 pm
Joe Mama,
kinda, I don’t really care for back and fourths with you(and that’s says a lot, because I can usually, have a fairly civil and thoughful debate with numerous commenters here perceived to be on the opposite “side” as me politically) . I appreciate all Vet’s for their service. Regarding anonymous commenters on this blog, you have nothing to prove to me.
kayaker 71
October 21st, 2011
2:39 pm
Armed Liberal,
Neva’ happen. It was sarcasm. Wow….. the obvious often alludes the most well intentioned. Come down from that pedestal….. the rarefied air is getting to you.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
2:39 pm
Armed Liberal via Wired — “State will be commanding a much larger security presence, the equivalent of a heavy combat brigade.”
If the figure of 5,500 security contractors is accurate, then yeah, that’s actually a pretty *beefy* heavy combat brigade. It’s actually about twice the size of the light brigades that were part of the 25th Infantry Division when I was in it back in the late 80s.
ty webb
October 21st, 2011
2:40 pm
Joe mama,
and the “kinda” in my 2:38 was directed at your question of whether or not I’m ignoring you?…Not whether or not I doubted your service.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
2:42 pm
ty webb — “Joe Mama, kinda”
The rest of your piffle can go hang, sir. Are you calling me a liar or not?
Either stand by your earlier words, or retract them like a gentleman.
ty webb
October 21st, 2011
2:43 pm
Joe,
see my 2:40.
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
2:44 pm
kayaker 71
October 21st, 2011
2:39 pm
Get over yourself. You posit the takeover of the ME by the Shiites with no regard to the historical animus between the two sects.
Your post simplifies a very complex situation and you expect to be treated as if your assertions are anything more than right-wing blather?
Try again or go away.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
2:45 pm
ty webb — I asked you this:
You DO recognize that several lefty posters on here are military veterans, don’t you?
and you said this:
“no, but I’m aware of what some anonymous commenters have claimed though.”
Clarify yourself, sir. I found your reply offensive, and your failure to elaborate upon it only offends me further.
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
2:45 pm
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
2:39 pm
Yep, and with the lack of an immunity agreement, things will get ugly.
Peadawg
October 21st, 2011
2:48 pm
It’s telling to see the difference in opinions with regards to Obama (campaign) speech between Jay and Kyle.
“Btw, the Obama administration has been trying for months to get an extension to leave several thousand troops in Iraq after Dec. 31. Baghdad refused, and now the president comes out and says he’s removing all of ‘em. No mention of that, today, either…”
Any truth to this claim?
F. Sinkwich
October 21st, 2011
2:49 pm
Have the libs and their ilk spent the peace dividend yet?
Peadawg
October 21st, 2011
2:49 pm
http://blog.heritage.org/2011/10/17/iraqi-government-balks-in-negotiations-over-extending-u-s-troop-presence/
“The Associated Press reported on Saturday that all U.S. troops would leave Iraq by December 31, except for 160 active-duty troops attached to the U.S. embassy in Baghdad. The Obama Administration denied this report, maintaining that negotiations were continuing and no final decision had been made.
The Obama Administration had been negotiating to extend the U.S. military presence, now down to about 40,000 troops, past the December 31 deadline for withdrawal set by the 2008 Status of Forces Agreement. But Iraq’s government reportedly refused to continue giving immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts to any U.S. troops that remain beyond December 31.”
ty webb
October 21st, 2011
2:50 pm
Joe mama,
don’t care what offends you. If you served, you should take pride in that, and thanks for your service. I don’t know you. So I can’t say one way or the other. Am I also to believe your name is really “Joe Hussein Mama”?…All I know for sure is that I really can’t stand most of the things you post here…and your service, real or not, has nothing to do with it.
Jefferson
October 21st, 2011
2:50 pm
Time to cut defense spending and military retirements, cut,cut, cut….
Peadawg
October 21st, 2011
2:51 pm
I know my link from 2:49 is from heritage so I’m Jay for his take on it. Any truth to this?
wow
October 21st, 2011
2:51 pm
@ Joe Hussein Mama, sounds like you need to find something else to keep you busy. ty webb doesn’t owe you anything, including an explanation. Seems like your energy could be better used elsewhere.
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
2:52 pm
Jefferson
October 21st, 2011
2:50 pm
Yes to the first part and a big fat NO to the second.
Mudfoot
October 21st, 2011
2:53 pm
@Joe
I’m in the cell tower industry and presently about half of my 60 employees are vets, and they’re the most productive AND the most appreciative people I’ve got. I have not as yet spoken to any transition counselors but will certainly do so. Word of mouth also seems to work well within the military community as that is how most guys have found us. (Try putting an ad in the paper any more and you’ll find that alot of people show up without fully reading said ad and discovering what it is we actually do – when they find out 50% run for the hills and the other 50% swear that thasy aren’t and will never be afraid of heights. Out of that 50% we quickly help most of those people find out that they actually DO fear heights… badly. You’re left with a very few remaining, and you have to filter them for other deal-breakers such as rampant drug addiction, warrants etc.) Many of these vets have plenty communications experience too, and they aren’t afraid to go where the work is. (Think about it – the majority of towers are not in the nicer neighborhoods and crews are robbed at sites often… but not my crews
)
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
October 21st, 2011
2:53 pm
Another Viet Nam, and thousands of flag-draped coffins, soon behind us and the war-fans from afar STILL don’t get it.
And I can’t decide if I should be enraged or just heartbroken…
Oh let mine (oh let my small voice) be a voice for peace
Let it start here with me, oh let mine be a voice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGQNEz-WEQ
ITS ALL BUSHS FAULT
October 21st, 2011
3:00 pm
Wait, is that Dick Cheney or the sound or a toilet …
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
3:01 pm
Ty Webb — “Joe mama, don’t care what offends you.”
You sir, are both dishonest and a coward.
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:03 pm
Mudfoot
October 21st, 2011
2:53 pm
I will give you a million dollars to put an AT&T tower in East Lake.
Granny Godzilla
October 21st, 2011
3:03 pm
Actually al-Maliki wanted to keep some troops as trainers – but without
immunity.
President Obama said basically k thanks bye.
Mudfoot
October 21st, 2011
3:04 pm
Just found the military.com transition center. Thanks Joe!
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
3:04 pm
wow — “Joe Hussein Mama, sounds like you need to find something else to keep you busy.”
Have a nice day, drive-by.
“ty webb doesn’t owe you anything, including an explanation.”
Ty Webb insinuated that liberal posters here who claimed veteran status were being untruthful. As a disabled veteran, I’m mightily offended by that.
I can demand an explanation from him all I want, and he can refuse all he wants. I’m actually glad he finally refused, because it tells me what sort of dishonorable person he is.
“Seems like your energy could be better used elsewhere.”
As could yours, drive-by.
Finn McCool
October 21st, 2011
3:06 pm
And kyle is po’d Obama didn’t give credit to Bush – just like after Bin Laden was killed.
Here’s an idea: If St louis wins the World Series, they should give a lot of credit (maybe even part of the trophy) to the Atlanta Braves for not finishing strongly so the Cardinals could clinch the wildcard??
Pathetic.
Peadawg
October 21st, 2011
3:06 pm
“Actually al-Maliki wanted to keep some troops as trainers – but without
immunity.
President Obama said basically k thanks bye.”
You have a link to a story, Granny? I’m skeptical when it comes to how heritage words things
. I tried googling but my google-powers are off today (it’s Friday) seeing as this is all I could find.
Mudfoot
October 21st, 2011
3:06 pm
@Armed
Yeah I hear that often. New site aquisition is big business and lucrative for the property owners, but the NIMBY syndrome greatly complicates the process. Everyone wants excellent cell service but noone wants a tower in their neighborhood.
Peadawg
October 21st, 2011
3:08 pm
“Pathetic.”
Obama gets credit for going through with an agreement signed by his predecessor. Now if Obama had re-negotiated something and brought all troops home sooner, then it’d be something to boast about.
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:08 pm
On a side note: http://politicalscoop.wmur.com/exclusive-all-bachmann-nh-staffers-quit
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA….
Now I’m going to have to find someone else to vote for in the primary…
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
3:08 pm
Mudfoot — “I’m in the cell tower industry and presently about half of my 60 employees are vets, and they’re the most productive AND the most appreciative people I’ve got. I have not as yet spoken to any transition counselors but will certainly do so.”
Excellent! I suggest you contact the transition counselors at Fort Gordon, outside Augusta, as the US Army Signal School is there. You might find a passel of qualified troopers at that post.
Also consider Fort Benning, outside Columbus (Infantry school) and Fort Stewart, near Hinesville. Stewart used to host the 24th Infantry Division when I was in, but the 24th has been inactivated and the 3d Div is there now.
Good luck in your candidate search, and thank you for hiring veterans!
Jay
October 21st, 2011
3:08 pm
Yes, PDawg, that’s accurate. Obama and the Iraqis were trying to find a way to keep a few thousand troops in Iraq as trainers, but the issue of immunity could not be resolved. We wouldn’t keep them there without it, and the Iraqi Parliament couldn’t bring itself to grant that immunity. After the invasion and occupation, they’re not too cool with ceding any sovereign rights to the Americans.
Obama alluded to all this in his statement, saying that Americans keep their commitments but that the Iraqis said they wanted to assume all responsibility.
Mudfoot
October 21st, 2011
3:09 pm
Gotta go downtown
. Thanks again Joe, that’s a good lead for new hires
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
October 21st, 2011
3:10 pm
The tough on crime dupes ups and “Don’t blame Wall Street’ asskissers should have listened to George Carlin instead of Dick Cheney:
“The death penalty doesn’t mean anything unless you use it against people who are afraid to die. Like… bankers who launder the drug money… you want to slow down the drug traffic, you got to start executing a few of those f*cking bankers. White, middle class Republican bankers. Let’s bring back crucifixions… on TV… Halftime! Monday Night! The Monday Night Crucifixions! You start nailing one white banker per week to a big wooden cross, you’re going to see that drug traffic begin to slow down…”
Granny Godzilla
October 21st, 2011
3:10 pm
Peadwag you are always so nice to me..how could I possibly refuse you?
BAGHDAD, Oct. 16, 2011 (Reuters) — Just weeks before U.S. troops plan to leave Iraq, the country’s political elite and Washington are at odds over whether American soldiers stay as trainers: Baghdad rejects any legal immunity for U.S. soldiers and Washington says that means no deal.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
3:10 pm
Mudfoot — “Just found the military.com transition center. Thanks Joe!”
Thank YOU, Mudfoot! I know some transitioning veterans are going to be REAL happy to talk to you!
Kamchak
October 21st, 2011
3:10 pm
Joe Mama
An insult is like poison or strong drink, it can only affect you if you accept it.
#occupy my desk...
October 21st, 2011
3:12 pm
Oh my God – from the AJC – “The American withdrawal by the end of 2011 was sealed in a deal between the two countries when George W. Bush was president. Obama declared the end of the combat mission earlier this year.”
So this isn’t so much steadfast, decisive leadership as it is reiteration of something that had been planned for 4-5 years? And he already took credit for it a few months ago – anything to deflect his many follies with a popular stunt.
At least they will be home just in time to help him move out of the White House…
Mudfoot
October 21st, 2011
3:12 pm
“Good luck in your candidate search, and thank you for hiring veterans!”
No thanks necessary. Believe me, vets are the most qualified people I get and they don’t suffer prim-donna syndrome. Thanks again, I’ll def follow up on all these leads
Michelle Bachmann
October 21st, 2011
3:12 pm
We should build a double fence around Iraq and fill the middle with bible verses.
ragnar danneskjold
October 21st, 2011
3:12 pm
Good afternoon all. Must be the loss of the teleprompter, but Chauncey’s language hit me funny: “The last Americans soldiers will cross the border out of Iraq with their heads held high. ” By cross the border, does he mean they will be marching to the northeast?
Peadawg
October 21st, 2011
3:12 pm
Jay @ 3:08
Why was Obama doing this? Who wanted us there past December 31st, Obama or the Iraqis?
jm
October 21st, 2011
3:13 pm
yeah. come what may, I’m glad we’re done.
no immunity, no troops.
jm
October 21st, 2011
3:14 pm
It’d be nice to focus on rebuilding America. But we’re now tapped out. Blame Bush. Blame Obama.
No more money available now to “rebuild” America (infrastructure, education) unless you cut entitlements.
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:15 pm
I’ll give Bush credit if he’ll land on an aircraft carrier solo this time.
I’ll give Bush credit if he get’s Cheney to admit he was behind the Valarie Plame fiasco.
I’ll give Bush credit if he’ll take a lie detector about his military service.
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
October 21st, 2011
3:17 pm
I’m sure the entire deadly debacle was just one big laughfest for you, huh rag?
ty webb
October 21st, 2011
3:17 pm
“’ll give Bush credit if he’ll take a lie detector about his military service.”
uh oh…doubting one’s military service…you, SIR, offend me.
Adam
October 21st, 2011
3:18 pm
Joe Mama: Ha ha! Dave R. was WRONG!
Surprised?
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:19 pm
ty webb – You sir, are a tool.
Adam
October 21st, 2011
3:20 pm
md: Now, do the same with Afghanistan and leave the drones……………
That’s not a bad idea….
md
October 21st, 2011
3:20 pm
“The death penalty doesn’t mean anything unless you use it against people who are afraid to die”
Which is why MAD won’t work with Iran……….
ty webb
October 21st, 2011
3:21 pm
armed liberal,
touche, you, sir.
md
October 21st, 2011
3:21 pm
Adam…….if we leave Afghanistan, the Taliban will come out in the open……prime targets at that point.
#occupy my desk...
October 21st, 2011
3:22 pm
Armed Liberal – I’ll give Obama credit if he will let us have a peek at his education records.
I’ll give Obama credit if he will come clean on Blagojevich
I’ll give Obama credit if he will come clean on Solyndra
I’ll give Obama credit if he will come clean on Rezko
I’ll give Obama credit if he will take responsibilities for his failures
I’ll give Obama credit if he will tell us where those shovel ready jobs went
I’ll give Obama credit if he will hold holder accountable for fast and furious
I’ll give Obama credit if he will promote all jobs, not just union ones
We could do this all day – and as a former carrier pilot, that wouldn’t be a pretty sight.
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:24 pm
ty webb: based on the following, I accept your admission of defeat.
1. touche
an expression borrowed from French used
1)to admit that an opponent in an argument has made a good point
2)when someone has said a good comeback line
3)to concede a point to an opponent when fencing
wow
October 21st, 2011
3:24 pm
@ Joe, you are obviously very bitter and angry and uneducated. It’s a real shame. And your comments about me (drive by) I actually take as a compliment because it just proves that I have much better things to do with my time than wasting it taking shots at people who only have the guts to say the things they say because they can hide behind a computer.
I’ve wasted enough of my time on you, I hope one day you find something important to do with your time.
jm
October 21st, 2011
3:25 pm
Wow. rubio slams post
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66567.html
Mr. Snarky
October 21st, 2011
3:25 pm
Alleluiah!
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:26 pm
#occupy my desk…
October 21st, 2011
3:22 pm
You’d better stop posting from work seeing as how your boss is a liberal.
Nice try though.
Kamchak
October 21st, 2011
3:27 pm
“teleprompter”
Another BINGO for me!
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
October 21st, 2011
3:27 pm
The worst government that mountains of dirty money can buy…
Lobbying Industry Struggles in Today’s Economy
The fact that the House under Republican control is more receptive to the concerns of business also has helped depress lobbying work, as businesses don’t feel a need for lobbyists to defend their interests in the House, says Rob Smith, co-chairman of Venable’s legislative practice group. His firm suffered a 13 percent drop in revenue in the first three quarters of the year.
“House Republicans are listening to industry and are helping to push their priorities,” Smith told The Hill. “Part of the Republican jobs plan is to roll back or block some environmental measures that hurt the private sector, so industry may not feel they need much outside help right now.”
And you buttsmackers actually think the banksters on Wall Street and their 10,000 stooges on K Street actually give a ____ about trickling down on you, don’t you?
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/LobbyingIndustry-financial-economy/2011/10/21/id/415345
Otherwise, how can one explain a lying jerk like Herman getting ANY traction?
ty webb
October 21st, 2011
3:30 pm
Armed liberal,
sorry, typo…meant douche, sir, you.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
3:30 pm
Ty Webb — “uh oh…doubting one’s military service…you, SIR, offend me.”
Hypocrite. You should be ashamed of yourself.
stands for decibels
October 21st, 2011
3:31 pm
do the same with Afghanistan and leave the drones…
take the cannoli.
Adam
October 21st, 2011
3:32 pm
jm: No more money available now to “rebuild” America (infrastructure, education) unless you
cut entitlementsraise taxes.FYT.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
3:33 pm
Adam — “Surprised?”
Not at all. Dave’s worst qualities always seemed to be the ones he told you were his *best;* his maturity, his intelligence, his sense of political currents, etc.
I’m pretty sure that a sitting President is better able to play the political game than some d00d who used to be a county commissioner somewhere.
ty webb
October 21st, 2011
3:33 pm
“You should be ashamed of yourself.”
what…no “sir”?
Adam
October 21st, 2011
3:33 pm
#occupy my desk: So if I could prove Obama has done just ONE of those you’d give him credit?
Adam
October 21st, 2011
3:34 pm
Kamchak: “teleprompter”
Another BINGO for me!
Am I the only one that notice he HASN’T used his teleprompter lately?
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:35 pm
ty webb: No take backs. You lose, I win.
Granny Godzilla
October 21st, 2011
3:35 pm
#occupy my desk…
October 21st, 2011
3:22 pm
Bless Your Heart
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
October 21st, 2011
3:36 pm
#, what a joke.
You birther tools got punked in the most humiliating manner possible and now you freaks want his college transcripts?
Doubling down on the dumbass…
Granny Godzilla
October 21st, 2011
3:36 pm
Mitt Romney
Bless Your heart
Adam
October 21st, 2011
3:36 pm
Joe Mama: In a way I’m sad he’s gone. Because I wanted to be able to respond to him praising the Republicans for having “good negotiating tactics” on the debt ceiling but bashing Obama for doing EXACTLY the same thing regarding the jobs bill and tax hikes on millionaires.
jm
October 21st, 2011
3:37 pm
Adam. I don’t have typos. I’m perfect.
jm
October 21st, 2011
3:38 pm
Jay. Well, he has a point. I’m glad we’re done.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
3:39 pm
wow — “Joe, you are obviously very bitter and angry and uneducated. It’s a real shame”
The shame here is that your guesses are so terribly inaccurate. (laughing)
I don’t appreciate fair-weather patriots who slag on veterans just because those veterans happen to have different political views and opinions. I’ve been berated to my *face* and told that I was “not a veteran any more” because I had a Kerry bumper sticker on my car.
Bitter and angry? No. That’d be the lackwit who told me that my veteran status was (apparently) determined by my political status. And when I see that sort of foolishness online, I call it out. Too bad you don’t come down on the side of American veterans; there are a lot of us out there and we’re mostly good people, regardless of whom we vote for.
On the topic of being “uneducated,” chuckle.
Whatever you say. (laughing)
“And your comments about me (drive by) I actually take as a compliment because it just proves that I have much better things to do with my time than wasting it taking shots at people who only have the guts to say the things they say because they can hide behind a computer.”
Said the drive-by as he hid behind his computer. (laughing, pointing)
“I’ve wasted enough of my time on you, I hope one day you find something important to do with your time.”
Don’t let the door hit you in the butt on your way out, drive-by. (giggling)
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:39 pm
Jay
October 21st, 2011
3:35 pm
The more Mitt says stuff like this, the more I look forward to the real debates…
No diving allowed in the Romney-any-policy-pool, it’s way too shallow.
Kamchak
October 21st, 2011
3:40 pm
I’ll give Obama credit if he will let us have a peek at his education records.
Not intended to be a factual statement.
stands for decibels
October 21st, 2011
3:41 pm
“President Obama’s astonishing failure
Speaking of failure–anyone know what this jagoff has done since losing the nomination last time around?
I mean besides pissing and moaning about Obama?
what a friggin’ jerk.
Joe Hussein Mama
October 21st, 2011
3:41 pm
Ty Webb — “what…no “sir”?
Not to you. Not any more.
1811/0311
October 21st, 2011
3:41 pm
“Private” Obama’s opinion trumps the views of our highest military commanders. It’s just the way it works ……… like it or not.
That said, his real test of leadership will be what he does if Iraq starts going down the tubes again.
Jay
October 21st, 2011
3:41 pm
I think that response from Romney deserves a post of its own….
josef
October 21st, 2011
3:42 pm
The thread…we’ll see what happens…the Romany Lady and I are laying 3-1 odds that the Iraqi state breaks up…might not be such a bad idea if it did…
1811/0311
October 21st, 2011
3:43 pm
JAY:
If you open this up you will find a REAL NICE chart.
Headline: “GALLUP: OBAMA APPROVAL SKIDS TO NEW LOW…”
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150230/Obama-Job-Approval-Average-Slides-New-Low-11th-Quarter.aspx
thewindwhistler
October 21st, 2011
3:47 pm
How much would you like to bet? The U.S. will be there for all eternity. The Iraqis could not stand the loss of income if the troops left. It is just like occuping Germany, the whole infrastructure depends on the U.S. being there
wow
October 21st, 2011
3:48 pm
@ Joe, I find it very interesting how you come down on others for assuming things about you, but you are doing the exact same thing. All I originally said was that ty did not owe you anything, which he doesn’t.
I called you out for being uneducated because that is exactly how you were acting. You know nothing about me, nor my views on veterans. It is a shame that anyone would tell you that you no longer qualified as a veteran for any reason, I do not agree with that on any level. But you my friend have been and are being just as petty as many of the other people here.
I enjoy reading what is written on many articles published, but I do not always comment. That is my choice and as you said, not something I should come under fire for just because someone (you) doesn’t agree.
I appreciate what you did for our country, just as I appreciate what my grandfather, grandmother, father, father-in-law and MYSELF did for this county.
1811/0311
October 21st, 2011
3:48 pm
JAY:
Does Congress have the power (over a presidential veto I would assume) to refuse funding to bring the troops home?
Kamchak
October 21st, 2011
3:49 pm
If you open this up you will find a REAL NICE
chartrabbit hole.AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
October 21st, 2011
3:50 pm
Poor Mitt.
Still hoping that pretending to be a simpleton neo-con is gonna endear him to that crowd.
Shawny
October 21st, 2011
3:51 pm
“by end of year”…. by end of WHAT year?
This is going to be interesting.
Then we need to get out of all the other countries too. To expensive to support.
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:51 pm
1811/0311
October 21st, 2011
3:48 pm
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LOBBY YOUR CONGRESSMEN AND SENATORS TO PUSH THIS!!!
PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE???
Jm
October 21st, 2011
3:52 pm
Occupy is the dumbest thing ever
Via bloomberg
They are now doing occupy moma because they think the art museums are elitist and a way the 1% abuse power
No joke. These people are the biggest morons on the planet bar none
resno2
October 21st, 2011
3:53 pm
Granny? You want the Republicans to find the returning vets (btw… all obama did was say they are coming home in the next couple of months, no one is actually home yet) jobs?
Isn’t job creation the job of the federal government?
Granny Godzilla
October 21st, 2011
3:54 pm
I think that response from Romney deserves a post of its own….
here’s my response to Mitt Romney
I apologize if this offends anyone……but it must be articulated.
AmVet - A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. ~Franklin D. Roosevelt
October 21st, 2011
3:55 pm
I have a friend who has been in Iraq, with one of the big contractors, for several years.
She is very Republican.
When I’ve asked her about the situation there, regarding the infrastructure, social stability, etc, she pretty much rolls her eyes and tells me that it is still a joke.
The chickenhawks have wasted hundreds of billions of dollars accomplishing damn near nothing there except padding the P & L statements of those contractors.
And they don’t even regret doing so…
1811/0311
October 21st, 2011
3:55 pm
“The dark scourge of anti-Semitism has reared up at many “Occupy” protests across the country, and the subject could well become a campaign 2012 issue as Republicans have been quick to point out to voters that many Democrats, including the president, are aligning themselves with the protests.”
Armed Liberal
October 21st, 2011
3:56 pm
Today, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) abruptly canceled his speech on income inequality scheduled for this afternoon at the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania.
SHOCKING!! Cantor’s afraid of his fellow Americans!
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/10/21/350550/breaking-upenn-disputes-cantors-explaination-for-cancelation-says-speech-was-always-open-to-the-public/