A sane person’s guide to ‘Fast and Furious’

One Republican congressman has suggested that Attorney General Eric Holder ought to be arrested and face criminal charges of being an accessory to murder, and that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano and even President Obama might be implicated.

Wayne LaPierre of the National Rifle Association calls it “the biggest cover-up since Watergate” and describes Operation Fast and Furious as “just one part of Barack Obama’s agenda to attack gun owners and our Second Amendment rights.” Conservative bloggers are even arguing that the “Fast and Furious” case constitutes grounds for impeachment, with claims that it’s “the Reichstag fire of the Second Amendment.”

An excitable little bunch, aren’t they?

For those not deeply entrenched in far-right conspiracy theories, let’s begin with the basics. “Fast and Furious” was an undercover operation launched out of Phoenix in 2009 by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. The investigation attempted to trace 1,500 to 2,000 firearms as they were purchased here in the United States by agents of Mexican drug cartels and then smuggled across the border. The ATF’s aim was to use that information to prosecute, disarm and break the cartels.

But things went very, very wrong.

ATF agents lost track of the guns. Two AK-47s involved in the investigation were recovered later at the scene of a murder of a U.S. Border Patrol agent. Other weapons lost in the operation have clearly made their way into the hands of the cartels and have been used in violent crimes in Mexico.

In the aftermath of the botched operation, the U.S. attorney in Arizona and the acting ATF head have both been removed. The inspector general of the Justice Department has launched an internal investigation and U.S. Rep. Darrell Issa, chairman of the House Oversight Committee, has held hearings and subpoenaed thousands of emails and other documents from the ATF, the Justice Department and even the White House.

Through his probe, Issa is clearly hoping to establish that top Obama administration officials were deeply involved in the scandal, a suggestion that so far he has been unable to document. Instead of being an invention of the Obama administration, for example, it turns out Operation Fast and Furious was an offshot of similar operations carried out by the ATF as far back as 2006, under the Bush administration.

Inevitably, “what did he know and when did he know it” also becomes an issue in such investigations. In May, the attorney general testified to Issa’s committee that he first became aware of the program and its difficulties this spring. Issa has since released documents indicating that information about Fast and Furious had been sent to Holder back in 2010. That has led to claims that Holder committed perjury and is conducting a coverup.

It turns out, however, that Issa himself was also briefed on “Fast and Furious” back in 2010. His spokesman, Frederick Hill, admits the session occurred but says that “the briefing was broad… my understanding is that Fast and Furious never came up by name in this briefing, and certainly they had no discussion about the controversial tactics.”

And that’s pretty much the explanation that Holder’s spokesman gives as well, citing the volume of material that crosses an attorney general’s desk:

“None of the handful of entries in 2010 regarding the Fast and Furious suggested there was anything amiss with that investigation requiring leadership to take corrective action or commit to memory this particular operation prior to the disturbing claims raised by ATF agents in the early part of 2011.”

Again, there’s no question that Fast and Furious represents a serious failure of federal law enforcement, and it shouldn’t surprise anyone if those responsible for that failure were less than eager to inform superiors in Washington about their mistakes. However, the inspector general’s investigation and the investigation by Issa’s committee should help lay out exactly what happened.

However, there’s something deeper going on here as well, and it’s reflected in the comments from LaPierre and others.

The flow of firearms across the U.S. border is a serious challenge. So far, some 65,000 guns confiscated in Mexico by authorities have been traced back to gun purchases made here in the United States. One single individual tracked during the Fast and Furious investigation bought more than 700 weapons for transfer to the Mexican cartels, in some cases purchasing 20 or more AK-47-type assault weapons in a single purchase.

However, when the Obama administration proposed a new regulation that would require border-state gun shops to notify officials if a single individual attempted to buy large numbers of guns, the NRA protested bitterly.

“This is just a shallow excuse to engage in a sweeping firearms registration scheme,” LaPierre wrote on the NRA’s website. At the NRA’s insistence, the House passed a resolution opposing that regulation, and the NRA has since filed suit against the rule.

The truth is, the right has fixated on “Fast and Furious” not because it wants the federal government to become more effective in its efforts to stop gunrunning across the Mexican border. Quite the contrary. It wants to raise such a stink about “Fast and Furious” that the government is forced to stop undercover gun-trafficking investigations altogether. They see this as an opportunity to discredit and handcuff ATF, an agency that the NRA and others view as a hated enemy.

(LaPierre, you may recall, infamously referred to ATF agents as “jack-booted government thugs,” as in “lifting the assault weapons ban (is necessary) to even the odds in the struggle between ordinary citizens and jack-booted government thugs.”)

The undercover aspect of the operation is particularly galling to the NRA because it recalls sting operations conducted by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and others. In those operations, private detectives went to gun shops and gun shows and were sold guns even though they told the gun sellers that they weren’t legally eligible to buy weapons. The fact that federal officials are using similar tactics outrages the NRA.

The working theory on the right — the thought process by which this botched law-enforcement operation turns into “the Reichstag fire of the Second Amendment” — is that Fast and Furious was concocted in the upper reaches of the Obama administration as a means to justify harsh gun-confiscation laws and the reimposition of the assault-weapons ban.

That’s why it has become such a cause celebre; that’s why it is supposedly “bigger than Watergate” with the potential to end in Obama’s impeachment. There’s no evidence whatsoever to support that notion, just the overheated minds of people who let hate-driven imaginations overwhelm rational thought.

– Jay Bookman

678 comments Add your comment

Bill Hilly

October 13th, 2011
3:17 pm

Just another reason for the Republicans to not have that “laser focus” on jobs!

Cherokee

October 13th, 2011
3:17 pm

“people who let hate-driven imaginations overwhelm rational thought.”

AKA Republicans?

Doggone/GA

October 13th, 2011
3:22 pm

Jay – looks like an upload glitch got you again. Seems to be some stuff missing

getalife

October 13th, 2011
3:22 pm

Ak’s cheap!

Get em while they are hot.

Brosephus™

October 13th, 2011
3:23 pm

Jay

I think you just helped 99% of your conservative detractors ejaculate with this post. Maybe they will get all that buildup out of their systems. I seriously doubt it, but I hope they do.

Armed Liberal

October 13th, 2011
3:25 pm

Who the frick edited this?

My god it’s like reading dyslexic ramblings of a dope fiend.

Armed Liberal

October 13th, 2011
3:27 pm

I take it back. I’m a computer dork.

Joe Mama

October 13th, 2011
3:28 pm

Brownsephus — “I think you just helped 99% of your conservative detractors ejaculate with this post.”

They’re gonna show us their OH faces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Space

Normal

October 13th, 2011
3:29 pm

Getalife,
Can I get a taco with that?

Armed Liberal

October 13th, 2011
3:30 pm

How long till we hear “What did Holder know and when did he know it?”

getalife

October 13th, 2011
3:32 pm

“This is just a shallow excuse to engage in a sweeping firearms registration scheme,” Wayne LaPierre, the NRA’s chief executive and executive vice president, wrote on the organization’s website. (regulation for notice of multiple gun sales in border-area gun shops)”

I guess the NRA want this investigation to end. Issa is upsetting the NRA. Attacking another gop voting group. Way to go gop.

getalife

October 13th, 2011
3:34 pm

Normal,

Buy 100 AK 47’s and get all you can eat tacos.

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 13th, 2011
3:34 pm

Let the investigation go where it leads. It would appear that Holder did indeed possibly purger himself before congress when he testified, I believe last May that he only learned of Fast and Furious a few week prior to his appearance. Does this failed operation that cost lives reach up higher into the administration? No one knows, but this is certainly worthy of intense investigation as I think will occur.

Jay

October 13th, 2011
3:34 pm

Is there still a problem? I’ve had a couple of recent occasions in which early drafts of the column have somehow posted. I think this one is now fixed, but maybe not … I am, after all, my own editor in these things.

Armed Liberal

October 13th, 2011
3:36 pm

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves Orcs.”

-John Rogers

Berne Johnson

October 13th, 2011
3:37 pm

Wow, there is so much more to this than what Mr. Bookman wrote. First, there never was a tracking mechanism established for following the guns. The whisleblowing ATF agents were infuriated and fought that tooth and nail. They were then instructed to let the guns go – without following them.Without a tracking mechanism, the only logical statistic will be when the guns show up at crime scenes – which has no logical connection to doing anything to the Cartels. Third, after the first sale to a straw buyer – they had all the evidence they needed against them – no need to repeat the process thousands of times. Fourth, in congressional testimony – the political appointee at the ATF who got weekly reports was “gleeful” whenever one of the guns showed up at a crime scene. Since there was no mechanism for tracking the guns and the only statistic they tracked was when the guns showed up at crime scenes, it seems pretty obvious that Fast and Furious was about some political purpose. Please, Mr. Bookman, what political purpose could that be?

Jay

October 13th, 2011
3:39 pm

You tell me, Berne. It’s your conspiracy theory, not mine.

ty webb

October 13th, 2011
3:41 pm

Good grief…water carrying this hard and it’s only Oct. 13, 2011…You better hit the gym, Jay, November 2012 will be hear before you know it.

Steve - USA

October 13th, 2011
3:42 pm

Really……we are going to go down the ejaculate road, The glee at writing pu**y yesterday wasn’t enough?

Brosephus™

October 13th, 2011
3:43 pm

Joe Mama

:lol: :lol:

Jay

Seems like the dysfunction went away..

Jay

October 13th, 2011
3:43 pm

Tell me where I’m wrong, Ty.

Gordon

October 13th, 2011
3:45 pm

I thought the issue was that Holder said under oath he didn’t know anything about F&F, but then several memos from well before that date were found that showed he clearly did. As is often the case, it wasn’t what was done but lying about what was done.

We already know that a president lied under oath and it was no big deal, so why should an attorney general lying under oath be a problem, right?

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 13th, 2011
3:46 pm

“it seems pretty obvious that Fast and Furious was about some political purpose. Please, Mr. Bookman, what political purpose could that be?”

I won’t go that far but best possible case it is certainly about incompetence and attempted cover up.

getalife

October 13th, 2011
3:47 pm

It is missing the mug shot of that guy and the other links of gun shops selling multiple guns to one guy.

“The ATF’s aim was to use that information to prosecute, disarm and break the cartels.”

Didn’t they find a bunch of those guns at a cartel hit man’s house?

Armed Liberal

October 13th, 2011
3:47 pm

LaPIERRE: [I]n public, [President Obama will] remind us that he’s put off calls from his party to renew the old Clinton [assault weapons] gun ban, he hasn’t pushed for new gun control laws, and he’ll even say he looked the other way when Congress passed a couple of minor pro-gun bills by huge majorities. The president will offer the Second Amendment lip service and hit the campaign trail saying he’s actually been good for the Second Amendment.

But it’s a big fat stinking lie, just like all the other lies that have come out of this corrupt administration. It’s all part — it’s all part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment in our country. [...]

Before the President was even sworn into office, they met and they hatched a conspiracy of public deception to try to guarantee his re-election in 2012. [...]

And Obama himself is no fool. So when he got elected, they concocted a scheme to stay away from the gun issue, lull gun owners to sleep, and play us for fools in 2012. Well, gun owners are not fools, and we are not fooled. We see the president’s strategy crystal clear: get re-elected, and with no other re-elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearms freedom. Erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and exorcise it from the U.S. Constitution. That’s their agenda.

AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!

October 13th, 2011
3:48 pm

Normal, was terribly sorry to hear of your loss.

My thoughts have been with you today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YMLmlHfehQ

Jay

October 13th, 2011
3:49 pm

Gordon, Holder’s version is that yes, he was apparently sent documents with the name Fast and Furious included back in 2010, but that ATF, FBI and Justice run a bunch of operations all over the country and if he saw the name back then it meant nothing to him, just another in a long string of ongoing investigations.

His version is that it was only this spring that he heard a program called Fast and Furious had gone awry. If there’s evidence to contradict that version, I expect we’ll see it.

josef

October 13th, 2011
3:49 pm

This whole mess lays squarely in the laps of the manufacturers. Subpoena their records of the annual conferences of production. Follow the money.

Cecil

October 13th, 2011
3:51 pm

Berne did not have a theory, Jay, he just stated facts. You had a few facts, skipped a whole lot of details, and made your own assessment – aka theory.

1811/0311

October 13th, 2011
3:51 pm

Jay:

I will say there are a lot of complicated issues here that cross party lines and involve previous administrations.

Sometimes you let drugs “walk”, sometimes you let “counterfeit money” walk, sometimes you let “stolen credit cards” walk and sometimes you let a lot of “buy money” walk in order to get a bigger fish or totally take down the operation.

However, when you let “guns” walk …………… it’s a whole different ballgame.

That leaves two important points:

1) This whole fiasco is a result of the United States not having the willpower to control its borders.

2) If Holder lied before Congress under oath about what he knew and when he knew it, he is guilty of perjury.

Let the chips fall where they may.

Brosephus™

October 13th, 2011
3:52 pm

Steve

You must not have witnessed the zeal at the thought of discussing Fast and Furious that some conservatives have shown here. When Jay’s colleague, Kyle, posted on F&F, it wasn’t enough for them. They kept asking Jay to post. Since Jay’s honored that request, I imagine they’re experiencing some kind of happy endingesque release.

:)

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 13th, 2011
3:52 pm

Making Wayne LaPierre the focus is a little silly.

josef

October 13th, 2011
3:52 pm

Armed Liberal

Second Amendment, suspension of habeas corpus…step by step…

Gordon

October 13th, 2011
3:52 pm

Jay,

OK. That is believable.

But this sort of reminds me of the witch hunts about outing a CIA agent when Bush was president.

Jay

October 13th, 2011
3:52 pm

If, for example, there’s a document ORIGINATING with Holder regarding F&F, that would constitute proof he was lying.

Personally, I certainly can’t claim that I read all of every email sent to me. Can you?

Normal

October 13th, 2011
3:53 pm

Thanks AmVet…

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 13th, 2011
3:53 pm

Normal, I too am sorry for your loss. I lost mine suddenly almost 16 years ago. I know the feeling.

Normal

October 13th, 2011
3:54 pm

Recon,
My thanks to you also…

Jay

October 13th, 2011
3:57 pm

Certainly Berne has a theory, Cecil:

“It seems pretty obvious that Fast and Furious was about some political purpose.”

That’s the theory.

Berne Johnson

October 13th, 2011
3:58 pm

Some idiot dreamed up this program. Since Fast and Furious is not logically about tracking guns and catching bad guys (since there was NO tracking mechanisim. I can only conclude that the idiot that dreamed it up was a political idiot – not a law enforcement idiot. Since I can only assume the nature of the political connection (which I am assuming is about “Under the Radar” efforts for gun control), I really want to see where the investigation takes this. I welcome someone pointing out where my logic is off. What other political purpose can be served – other than gun control efforts?

HDB

October 13th, 2011
3:59 pm

Normal…I just lost my mom the day before Valentine’s Day….so I know your feelings!! Remember the times you had with your mom…..and keep the joy she gave you always! There’ll be a hole in your life…..but not in your heart!! Good thoughts always for you……

Misty Fyed

October 13th, 2011
3:59 pm

Come on guys….our Federal Government provided weapons to mexican cartels that were used to commit murder. Holder says he didn’t pay attention to the memo. There’s oversight for you. I don’t care what party you belong to; that’s inept.

What next? Can the DEA actually sell cocaine now?

Jay

October 13th, 2011
3:59 pm

And Berne has now confirmed the theory theory. It is just as I described it above.

josef

October 13th, 2011
4:02 pm

Fast and Furious was hatched in DC under the auspices of the elected administration. That makes it political. Not out to interpret the politics of it myself, but, yes, it’s political.

Brosephus™

October 13th, 2011
4:02 pm

But this sort of reminds me of the witch hunts about outing a CIA agent when Bush was president.

Not to mention the Iran-Contra affair. I don’t think any major political heads have been found guilty of anything since Watergate. I don’t expect this investigation to change the status quo.

Jay

October 13th, 2011
4:02 pm

I have no doubt the DEA does sell cocaine, Mysty.

And again, if the charge is that the ATF blew this big time, I would wholeheartedly agree. If the charge is that this was some tri-dimensional-chess political conspiracy … I’m gonna want to see some evidence

Peadawg

October 13th, 2011
4:03 pm

To me, the problem is that Holder may have lied to Congress about when he knew about it or whatnot. Lying to Congress = perjury no matter who are. There should absolutely be an investigation into that and if it’s found that he did indeed lied, he needs to resign.

They have no problem investigating Bonds or Clemens for perjury…what makes Holder any different?

Normal

October 13th, 2011
4:04 pm

What next? Can the DEA actually sell cocaine now?

Why not? The CIA did…

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Phil Lunney

October 13th, 2011
4:04 pm

I don’t doubt that Mr. Holder knew something earlier, but probably not the details. If we want to investigate, let’s go back to the start in 2006, these local folks had the approval of George W.’s folks as well. Can we also investigate the earmarked road funds that happen to go in front of Mr. Issa’s real estate? He seems to be getting very rich and his district gets some “good infrastructure”, very targeted.
P.S. It is kind of funny to see Wayne LaPierre in a tizzy about guns run amuck.

Peadawg

October 13th, 2011
4:04 pm

And put into jail for lying of course along w/ resigning.