Obama’s new-found populism finding voter favor

So how is President Obama’s new economic populism playing with the American people? A month ago, before Obama’s jobs speech to Congress and his change in strategy, Washington Post pollsters asked respondents who they trusted more to create jobs, the president or congressional Republicans. The result was a draw, with a plurality of independents siding with Republicans.

2011-10-03 BTN jobs trust1

Today, things look quite a bit different. By 15 percentage points, Americans trust Obama more than congressional Republicans to create jobs. Among independents, a five-point margin for Republicans has become a 13-point margin for Obama.

Democrats seem determined to press that advantage. In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid and others have decided to drop Obama’s initial tax-hike proposal on those households making more than $250,000, replacing it with a 5 percent surtax on millionaires. The measure would raise $450 billion, enough to finance the entire Obama jobs package.

According to the Post poll, 75 percent of Americans, including a majority of Republicans, support the surtax. Nonetheless, a spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner dismissed it as a “desperate tax hike gimmick” and congressional Republicans have pledged to defeat it on the grounds that it will destroy jobs.

Interestingly, an editorial in the business-friendly Bloomberg News dismisses that claim as flat-out wrong and cites Republican economists to back up that analysis.

“Look what happened under President Bill Clinton, when the top marginal tax rate was raised to 39.6 percent from 31 percent. Almost 23 million jobs were created, versus the 1.1 million new jobs under George W. Bush’s lower-tax years. Even more compelling: During the golden age of growth in the 1950s, the top tax rate was as high as 91 percent.

Then there is the argument that raising taxes on the rich will damage the small-business owners, many of whom pass their enterprise profits through to their personal income, where it’s taxed. By raising the top rate, the argument goes, entrepreneurs will have less profit with which to expand and hire.

Not really. The No. 1 reason that small-business owners say they’re not hiring is lack of consumer demand, not the burden of taxes. Moreover, a U.S. Treasury Department study of 2007 tax returns, released in August, concluded that only 8 percent of income covered by the top two tax brackets (33 and 35 percent) derived from small-business profits. More than half of small-business earnings were reported by taxpayers in lower brackets, the analysis found.”

(The Bloomberg editorial ends up opposing the millionaires’ surtax on grounds that such burdens ought to be shared more equally. I have some sympathy with that belief, and would be fine with a gradual elimination of the Bush tax cuts on all of us. However, that isn’t likely to happen, and since politics is the art of the possible, the millionaires’ surtax is an acceptable alternative under the circumstances.)

A few other pertinent questions from the Washington Post poll:

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– Jay Bookman

504 comments Add your comment

USinUK

October 11th, 2011
8:34 am

oh, Jay … there you go again, citing EVIDENCE …

don’t you know, it’s all about your PERCEPTION of reality that makes things real???

USinUK

October 11th, 2011
8:36 am

me, personally … I’m looking forward to watching the GOP go down with the ship defending millionaires.

I think it should have been kept at $250K, but could see that was an uphill battle for Dems … the GOP wants to defend the Kardashians and the Hiltons, now …

g’head, GOP … we’ll stand back and watch as you defend them to people who don’t have a job.

Common Sense

October 11th, 2011
8:40 am

New found populism….

There’s some wishful thinking.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 11th, 2011
8:41 am

It’s too late… we’ve been told over and over that the fat lady has sung and Obama is out….

Hmmmm…could it be that news of the fat lady singing has been premature? Perhaps it was never accurate to begin with

Jay – I think you left something out: I have some sympathy with share that belief, ?

Doggone/GA

October 11th, 2011
8:41 am

Jay – you might want to re-read what you’ve posted. It appears that some of it didn’t make it to the blog. It reads very oddly in some places.

Stonethrower

October 11th, 2011
8:42 am

Gale

October 11th, 2011
8:43 am

Populist positions seem to increase with the speaker’s concern about keeping his/her job. It seems a constant battle between the ones with money to fund campaigns and the ones who can vote them out.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
8:43 am

Oh look, a poll! Cue the righties to say polls don’t matter. I’m waiting with a bunch of links to posters on the conservative side who say that polls DO matter when it supports THEIR side. Bring it on guys :D

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
8:43 am

Why are people attacking Wall Street? The government decided to bail Wall Street out and not punish them, the government took our tax dollars and sent them to Wall Street to bail everyone out. The Tea Party protested against the people who did this, the occupy people are protesting against the wrong folk. Blame the people at fault, blame our government for the bailouts. Our government which is controlled by former Goldman Sachs employees. The answer is not more power for government, which just means more power for corporations. The solution is less government, and thus less power for corporations to manipulate.

Armed Liberal

October 11th, 2011
8:44 am

It’s too early to look at polls unless they come from Rasmussen and confirm my opinion.

There, thought I’d get this malarky out of the way today…

Gordon

October 11th, 2011
8:45 am

People are in favor of other people paying more taxes. Has there ever been a time when this wasn’t true? Wow, this is big news.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
8:45 am

House Speaker John Boehner dismissed the idea as “desperate tax hike gimmicks.” Republicans also claim the surtax would hurt job creation, an argument …..

OOOOOOOOOO I so HATE cliffhangers! :D

Mick

October 11th, 2011
8:45 am

The issue is a slam dunk! Of course the RB’s of the country are still foaming at the mouth, how dare we ask thurston howell III to pay more tax?

USinUK

October 11th, 2011
8:45 am

“Blame the people at fault, blame our government for the bailouts. ”

um. how about blaming the people who CAUSED it – that wasn’t gummint.

Granny Godzilla

October 11th, 2011
8:46 am

“The No. 1 reason that small-business owners say they’re not hiring is lack of consumer demand, not the burden of taxes.”

No sheet, Sherlock.

Joe The Plumber too.

October 11th, 2011
8:46 am

barry is a sinking ship, watch the dems trying to hold seats next year run from his help just as they did in 2010. The question asked was an easy answer, they should have asked ” Do you trust obama or any democrats in the House or Senate or any Republican running for President to care more about creating jobs” My money would be on a far different result than the slanted poll Jay chose to share.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

October 11th, 2011
8:46 am

Well, of course the librul Democrats want to tax the Job Creators. Oh, I know, the libruls are going to say they ain’t created any jobs. Well, you got to wait a few more years. It’s sort of like Trickle Down. It takes alot of time to get the benefits of low taxes for millionaires.

Anyhow, I’m flat-out against taxing the rich more. The reason is because I’m going to be rich one day. I figure that in 200 or 300 years I’ll have enough money from the savings from my salary to be way up there in money.

So Just Say No to Obama and hold on till he can be voted out of office. I want the rich people in charge of this country. That is, more than they already are, of course. Then they can really take care of the rest of us.

Have a good Tuesday everybody.

USinUK

October 11th, 2011
8:47 am

Mick – you say Thurston Howell III, I say Louis Winthorp III … ;-)

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
8:47 am

USinUK: And they would have been punished by losing all their money… If the government didn’t bail them out.

Joe the Plutocrat

October 11th, 2011
8:47 am

the Detroit Lions and the Buffalo Bills are both undefeated. the wealth envy and class warfare of the NFL elite (Falcons, Jets, Eagles, Cowboys) is palpable.

Granny Godzilla

October 11th, 2011
8:48 am

Jimmy62

Bless your heart.

getalife

October 11th, 2011
8:48 am

Good morning.

Now, watch the gop vote no on the jobs bill because “it will help our President”.

It does not get any more unpatriotic than that.

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
8:48 am

Of course that also totally ignores the government’s own culpability in causing this. Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, implicit bailout protection, urging home ownership on people who can’t afford it, the Fed artificially lowering rates too low for too long, etc.

Gordon

October 11th, 2011
8:48 am

I guess the problem for Obama is that he isn’t running against the Republican Congress, he is running against a single Republican presidential candidate. How do those polls look?

Adam

October 11th, 2011
8:48 am

Jimmy62: The Tea Party protested against the people who did this, the occupy people are protesting against the wrong folk.

Your Plutocrat Panic is showing….

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 11th, 2011
8:49 am

Yeah sure the WaPo. All the major polls have Obama’s disapproval in double digits and with 72.2% of the public saying the country’s on the wrong track, is his message resonating? I don’t think so.

Joel Edge

October 11th, 2011
8:49 am

Love it. Stimulus II- The sequel (mini version). I would also suggest the Democratic Party fully embrace the OWS movement.
See ya in 2012.

USMC

October 11th, 2011
8:50 am

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
8:50 am

Adam: So Wall Street pardoned itself and gave itself bailouts by taking tax dollars from the rest of us?

Nope, the US government did that. TARP, bailouts, QE1 and QE2, the Fed manipulating interest rates…

USinUK

October 11th, 2011
8:51 am

“And they would have been punished by losing all their money… If the government didn’t bail them out.”

No, WE would have been punished by the bottom falling out of the economy

St Simons - we're on Island time

October 11th, 2011
8:54 am

what i hope emerges from all this is a Party that represents working people, common people, unemployed people, people that need affordable insurance & health care, people that have no problem bailing out (helping), but expect something in return (loan the d*m money, hoarders). Maybe the ‘Trickled-On” Party; kind of like Labour in Australia.

not 2 factions of the “Business Party” that own all the media and play both sides against each other.

Class warfare? Absolutely. And if the attacking 1% doesn’t back off the gas pedal, there’s gonna be more “unrest,” no matter how much drama-queen fake-outrage & how many fainting couches the cons lay out there. This is just a polite knock at the door. Cons, your imaginary never-was “Leave it to Beaver” world is gone with the wind.

JohnnyReb

October 11th, 2011
8:54 am

“…a 5 percent surtax on millionaires……would raise $450 billion, enough to finance the entire Obama jobs package.”

Jay, what you don’t state is, the money would be spent now but it would take 10 years for the millionaire tax to pay it back.

Surely, you see the folly in that?

Adam

October 11th, 2011
8:55 am

Gordon: Well Generic Republican seems to have gotten a surge early on, and has stayed ahead in the poll. But for some reason Generic Republican isn’t at any of the debates and is an an undisclosed location.

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
8:56 am

USinUK: Apparently you haven’t noticed, but the bottom did fall out. We had a choice between some pain then, or lots more pain later. We chose more pain later, and now later is here, and it’s only going to get worse. We didn’t fix the problem, we bailed it out.

What would have happened without the bailouts? The proper people would have been punished. A lot of companies would have failed. There would have been chaos for a short time. Entrepreneurial companies would have scrambled to fill the gaps because of the immense amounts of money to be gained. The failures would have been driven out of the economy, and the more capable would have triumphed. Instead we promoted the failures to controlling everything while blocking out anyone else.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
8:56 am

Joel Edge: See ya in 2012.

“See ya” is right. Buh-bye Republicans!

Shawny

October 11th, 2011
8:56 am

This poll is irrelevant. We are more than 1 year away from the next election. It will change and change again before then.

Jay

October 11th, 2011
8:56 am

There’s nothing at all wrong with that, JohnnyReb. In fact, that’s the whole idea. You spend the money now, when the economy needs money spent to increase demand. And you pay for it through taxes once the crisis has passed.

getalife

October 11th, 2011
8:57 am

I guess the cons are not informed on the rest of the world still bailing out their banks because of the w collapse. Even China stepped in.

Get informed before you make fools out of yourselves cons.

Read something cons.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
8:57 am

Jimmy62: So Wall Street pardoned itself and gave itself bailouts by taking tax dollars from the rest of us?

Poor, poor Wall Street. They are so put upon. Let’s not forget who the real victim is: Wall Street. The attacker is big bad gummint and gummint can’t do ANYTHING right, and private sector does everything PERFECTLY.

Is that your argument?

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 11th, 2011
8:58 am

“Surely, you see the folly in that?”

Nope, all they see is an ideology that believes in punishing success, while rewarding failure.

JohnnyReb

October 11th, 2011
8:58 am

Progressives who bathe in the glory of Liberals winning Nobel, Pulitzer, etc prizes, take a look at Kyle’s column today concerning Obama’s economic policies.

Mick

October 11th, 2011
8:58 am

joe the plumber

It’s a farce I tell you, in reality the people don’t trust either party anymore, but the after the previous administration cratered the US, why would anyone even consider the cons? It’s the lesser of two evils and oh yeah, turnout, turnout, turnout…

Gordon

October 11th, 2011
8:59 am

Adam,

Obama trailed Romney and is tied with Cain (CAIN!!) the last time I looked. But it is a long way until November 2012.

Jay

October 11th, 2011
9:00 am

Gordon writes:

“I guess the problem for Obama is that he isn’t running against the Republican Congress, he is running against a single Republican presidential candidate. How do those polls look?

According to the Post poll, Romney pulls 47 percent to Obama’s 46 percent. Against, Perry, Obama leads 49-44.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:00 am

Recon: Nope, all they see is an ideology that believes in punishing success, while rewarding failure.

So they are Republicans who reward the failures of banks and punish the success of the working class at how good they have become at being productive?

JohnnyReb

October 11th, 2011
9:00 am

Jay, you and I know that deferring payments over ten years, is a big reason we are in the current condition. There is no law requiring the accounting stay on track to recover the money, and the plan changes from one Congress/POTUS to the next.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:01 am

Gordon: I admit, I would LOVE to see a race of Cain versus Obama. Because the racists would have a conniption.

getalife

October 11th, 2011
9:02 am

And while you are reading about the world bailing out the banks, look at the rw governments losing the voters.

You had your chance and you did nothing about jobs. Your speaker is crying about leadership and still asking where are the jobs. He is leading the house on doing nothing.

You are going to lose here too because you deserve to lose.

Jm

October 11th, 2011
9:02 am

Jay good thing you added that “footnote” about bloomberg

Their point was the new tax generally does nothing to fix the deficit

The rich are willing to pay more taxe for the common good of closing the deficit IF that same principle is applied to EVERYONE

They have no interest in being hung out to dry solely for political purposes

Everyone picks and chooses data from things they read

To cite a column an analysis that entirely disagrees with you in it’s conclusions is, I must say, a bit novel

carlosgvv

October 11th, 2011
9:02 am

It may be that the Republican electorate is finally beginning to recognize that the only thing you can truly trust the Tea Party lug nuts to do is protect their corporate sponsors any way they possibly can.
Additionaly, the electorate is becomming aware, however dimly, that these same politicians could not possibly care less about them and their needs.

Donovan

October 11th, 2011
9:02 am

Oh, man. You attach validity to a left wing newspaper,the WP, and you site the Bloomberg editorial piece as noteworthy? Pleaseeeeeeeee!

What’s next Mr. Bookman? Poll interviewing at the Occupy Wall Street demonstration?

Nice try, but snap out of it. You are now grabbing at straws.

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
9:02 am

Adam: Not at all. I blame Wall Street among others. But again, Wall Street would have been punished, but the GOVERNMENT bailed them out. Wall Street could not have bailed themselves out, they needed the government to do that. I never said Wall Street were victims. They are just as much to blame as the Fed, as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and several other groups. But only one group had the power to allow Wall Street to get away with it, and that’s the government. So why are you blaming Wall Street for accepting a pardon and free money? Blame the fools who offered the pardon and bailouts.

Granny Godzilla

October 11th, 2011
9:03 am

Working to make 100% of Americans successful instead of just 1% is punishing success?

Tripe.

Peadawg

October 11th, 2011
9:03 am

If dissatisfied, who do you blame for that?

Count me in the 27% who say both.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:03 am

JohnnyReb: You’re right. Congress could maybe someday in the future if we don’t pray hard enough change the tax laws so that millionaires don’t pay that surtax. And ponies and unicorns.

You’re right, best to just do nothing. It’s all hopeless.

Gordon

October 11th, 2011
9:04 am

“You spend the money now, when the economy needs money spent to increase demand. And you pay for it through taxes once the crisis has passed.”

1. The demand goes away afstr the spending stops. We’ve already seen that.

2. The taxes never get paid. We’ve seen that, too. Every other thing written on this blog is about that.

Other than that, great plan.

Jm

October 11th, 2011
9:04 am

Bloomberg has also posted preliminarily some of their debate questions in their website

Might be helpful for those interested to do some pre-reading

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:05 am

Jm: Their point was the new tax generally does nothing to fix the deficit

So basically:

Democrats: “This surtax will pay for the jobs bill”
Republicans: “But it doesn’t fix the WHOLE DEFICITTTTTTT” (whine)

AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!

October 11th, 2011
9:05 am

Wait until next month’s figures come out.

When the nation has fully seen the bizarre, self-destructive reaction of the hardcore elements of the Party of No, vis a vis these growing protests.

62, you’re barking up the wrong tree.

The banksters and white collar criminals have the power over our government that they do, because our elected rep, have worked relentlessly to cede that power to them. As led by the fiscally irresponsible GOP.

Which explains those damning figures Jay listed.

Working class Americans are way beyond fed up with these jellyfish in Washington.

So they are going to try and do the job those men will not – stand up to the crooks, swindlers and legalized thieves.

Dark days ahead for the monied criminals, as their free ride and mooching off of the populace comes to an end. And for the bribed, spineless fools who gave them pretty much everything they asked for.

And their misguided, reactionary far right-wing enablers and coddlers are going to go into paroxysms over it…

USMC

October 11th, 2011
9:06 am

Here come the Bolsheviks… :-)

PROTESTERS MARCH ON BILLIONAIRES’ HOUSES
http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/10/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_protest/index.htm

(Jay is surprisingly quiet about the Occupy Wall Street hooligans)

JohnnyReb

October 11th, 2011
9:06 am

For all who want to spend more money now – what will you propose in one year when the money for paying teachers is again gone? Another stimulus paid for over ten more years? Seems to me that scenario is too familiar and why we are where we are today.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:07 am

Jimmy62: So why are you blaming Wall Street for accepting a pardon and free money?

I am blaming Wall Street for creating the problem, begging for a bail out, then taking the money and giving huge bonuses to their people and doing all of the same stuff. Out of curiosity, though, what do you think would have happened had they NOT been bailed out? The real back-in-time solution would have been to put regulations on them so they couldn’t do what they did.

Talking Head

October 11th, 2011
9:08 am

i can’t believe that the college football season is half way over already

Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)

October 11th, 2011
9:08 am

“According to the Post poll, Romney pulls 47 percent to Obama’s 46 percent. Against, Perry, Obama leads 49-44.”

What should worry the Democrats and it has by their recent desperation in embracing the OWS crowd is losing to a candidate yet to be nominated and having another opposing candidate within the margin of error at this early stage. That does not bode well for an incumbent president.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:09 am

USMC: (Jay is surprisingly quiet about the Occupy Wall Street hooligans)

Someone hasn’t been reading….

Oh wait, he said “hooligans.” You mean like James O’Keefe?

RAMBLE ON!!!

October 11th, 2011
9:09 am

haha…the Washington Post?!?

Hmm, lets see. They polled something like 50% democratic and 30% Republicans and 20% Independents, or somewhere close. Your liberal media tricks have been exposed.

Your minions like USinUSSR and Granny will buy into this crap, but the rest of us Americans who can think for ourselves know better.

Our Liar in Chief will get defeated in a landslide 2012.

How ’s that Soylandra and Fast & Furious working out for ya?

Put a real Black Man in the White House. HERMAN CAIN!!!!!

Paddy O

October 11th, 2011
9:10 am

This poll was conducted on “all adults” not registered voters likely to cast a ballot -as such, it is just propoganda being passed off as research. However, precisely what is Obama proposing to do with that 450 billion (which is classic liberal tax & spend policy)?

Generation$crewed

October 11th, 2011
9:10 am

Jay

October 11th, 2011
8:56 am

But what about when the money spent now does not fix the problem? Or say make it worse or last longer?

How many attempts at “fixing” the economy do we take before we allow it to correct itself?

getalife

October 11th, 2011
9:11 am

After the gop kill the jobs bill, more people will join the new movement.

The gop just can’t help themselves in destroying any chance in 12.

TaxPayer

October 11th, 2011
9:12 am

The people are speaking and the Republicans mock them. Bunch of nuttie right wingers.

Gordon

October 11th, 2011
9:12 am

getalife,

The Senate Democrats don’t support the jobs bill.

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
9:12 am

Adam: Actually most of what they did was against regulations. Didn’t really help, did it? More regulations wouldn’t have done a thing. And again, without the government, they could not have gotten bailed out. They would have been punished. And our economy would probably be in much better shape, because all the toxic assets would have been gradually worked out of the system. Instead they are still there like a time bomb. I said 4 years ago, “We have a choice between some pain now or a whole lot more pain later.” As is typical with short-sighted Americans, we went with a whole lot more pain later, and later is coming. It’s only going to get worse.

Jm

October 11th, 2011
9:12 am

Adam

You can only go to the (rich) well so many times

Their revenue will be needed to fix the deficit, not pay for stimulus. And to fix the deficit we will need more revenue from EVERYONE, and that means you too

Despite jay’s entreaties to the contrary, it will take tax increases on everyone to fix this

If you don’t like higher taxes on yourself, it would be wise to start pleading for less spending, not more

Paddy O

October 11th, 2011
9:13 am

AmVet – fiscally irresponsible Republicans? YOu must be joking. Comparatively, Repubs are skinflints compared to Obama’s Tax & Spend Throne worship.

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
9:14 am

BTW, jsut because something is called a Jobs bill doesn’t mean it’s actually going to create jobs. The policy behind the words is less than useless, and like the previous stimulus will create a few jobs at several millions of dollars per job, then fail, wasting another half trillion dollars. But hey, let’s just keep doing the same stupid thing over and over again!

Paddy O

October 11th, 2011
9:14 am

taxpayer – the people? This small rabble of old hippies & indebted losers? I don’t think so. Keep swilling the kool aid like its water.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:14 am

Solyndra, Soros, Socialist…. Yawwwwwwn

1811/0311

October 11th, 2011
9:15 am

TaxPayer

October 11th, 2011
9:15 am

Eric Cant Or won’t bring Obama’s jobs bill to the house floor for a vote. Eric is an incompetent coward. Down with Eric the Lame. Power to the People.

getalife

October 11th, 2011
9:15 am

Gordon,

They will vote on it.

Jm

October 11th, 2011
9:16 am

No stimulus is needed

Only time will heal what ails America

That, and better leadership of course

jconservative

October 11th, 2011
9:16 am

“According to the Post poll, Romney pulls 47 percent to Obama’s 46 percent. Against, Perry, Obama leads 49-44.”

But that was before the Rev Jefferies said Romney was a “cultist” and not a “christian”. Once that word is spread from the pulpits, Romney may be toast.

Then again, will there be a “backlash”? See Obama and the Rev Wright.

Generation$crewed

October 11th, 2011
9:17 am

How long would it take to pay off the debt and continue to pay for all current programs if we taxed the richest 2% at say 95%?

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
9:17 am

TaxPayer: You don’t read the news, do you? The GOP was trying to get it to a vote in the Senate, but the Democrats are literally changing rules to keep it from coming to a vote.

But why acknowledge the truth when lies make you feel so much better?

Gordon

October 11th, 2011
9:17 am

getalife,

Get back to me when they do and it passes. Then you can accuse cons of killing the jobs bill if they don’t vote on it.

Paddy O

October 11th, 2011
9:17 am

Jay: Can you provide a specific breakdown on what the 447 billion will pay for?

Jimmy62

October 11th, 2011
9:18 am

jconservative: Religions are just cults with a history of success. Anyone who doesn’t realize that is delusional.

carlosgvv

October 11th, 2011
9:18 am

Talking Head

And they are STILL playing baseball. Can you say “greed”?

Paddy O

October 11th, 2011
9:18 am

This is a recession of the blue collar worker. How many factories will the 447 billion open?

JohnnyReb

October 11th, 2011
9:18 am

Magic Economic Bullet – there is not one. However, the single item that would have the most positive influence on helping the economy is energy prices.

If you know a tree hugger, put a sock in his/her mouth and use what political influence you have to urge Obama to roll back regulations, award the lease, etc. so that more domestic energy will be avaiable as quickly as possible. Everything you eat, wear, and touch is affected by the high energy prices. We may need to move to Greeen Energy, but now is not the time to do it.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:18 am

Jimmy62: Actually most of what they did was against regulations.

Really? Evidence? If so, why haven’t they been arrested?

Jm: You can only go to the (rich) well so many times

How about we TRY IT ONCE before saying that, hmm? Hasn’t been tried yet. Just has been talked about.

Their revenue will be needed to fix the deficit, not pay for stimulus. And to fix the deficit we will need more revenue from EVERYONE, and that means you too

1) The deficit is not the issue, payign for the jobs bill is
2) I have no problem with more revenue comign from me if I can afford it, which I can. I DO have a problem milking poor people for their last drop.

Despite jay’s entreaties to the contrary, it will take tax increases on everyone to fix this

And we can do that once people start being allowed to work again.

If you don’t like higher taxes on yourself, it would be wise to start pleading for less spending, not more

I don’t have a problem with higher taxes on me, I have a problem with higher taxes on the poor. Got it?

Peadawg

October 11th, 2011
9:19 am

“They will vote on it.” – If Reid can scramble up enough votes for it to pass. Democrats are split on this bill. It’s not all the GOP’s fault on this one.

Jm

October 11th, 2011
9:19 am

America has a strong backbone, though we may have gotten a bit fat on stimulus candy and bad government policy

We don’t need the stimulus. Americ will thrive once again without government.

Paddy O

October 11th, 2011
9:19 am

taxpayer – talk about Harry Reid. Is he too a coward?

Talking Head

October 11th, 2011
9:19 am

get,

the ‘jobs bill’ is nothing more than a propaganda piece for the upcoming election, obama and his staff know it has no chance of passing and they hope they will be able to point a finger at the repubs…and the sheeple being spoonfed by the media will follow lock step

getalife

October 11th, 2011
9:19 am

I will Gordon.

The gop house will kill it and the dems will run on that fact.

The gop will lose the house.

Armed Liberal

October 11th, 2011
9:19 am

“We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that have allowed some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying 10 percent of his salary, and that’s crazy. It’s time we stopped it….

What we’re trying to move against is institutionalized unfairness. We want to see that everyone pays their fair share, and no one gets a free ride. Our reasons? It’s good for society when we all know that no one is manipulating the system to their advantage because they’re rich and powerful. But it’s also good for society when everyone pays something, that everyone makes a contribution.”

GD Liberal said this, right?

USMC

October 11th, 2011
9:20 am

Look and listen to these Left-wing Liberal Lunatics chanting like mindless drones in a Soviet political re-education camp in Siberia.

These are the people who JAY BOOKMAN and the Wing-nuts on this blog support and identify with.
And you wingnuts criticize the Taxed Enough Already Party?????
Isn’t freedom of speech wonderful! :-)

Occupy Atlanta Silences Civil Rights Hero John Lewis!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QZlp3eGMNI

Paddy O

October 11th, 2011
9:21 am

To Rev Jefferies: The Catholic Church has branded all protestants, without apostolic connection, as a cult. So all you baptists, lutherans, presbyterian, etc – stop pretending to be Christian immediately.

Adam

October 11th, 2011
9:21 am

JohnnyReb: f you know a tree hugger, put a sock in his/her mouth and use what political influence you have to urge Obama to roll back regulations,

I thought only the LEFT advocated violence.

Your Plutocrat Panic is showing…..