‘Occupy Wall Street’ not as ‘fringe’ as some like to believe

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

Federal Hall National Memorial was built at the site where Congress held its first session, at the foot of Wall Street in New York City.

Federal Hall National Memorial was built at the site where Congress held its first session, at the foot of Wall Street in New York City.

The First Amendment, part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified by Congress meeting at Federal Hall in New York City on Sept. 25, 1789. Today, a motley, disorganized group of American citizens is exercising its First Amendment rights to peaceably assemble and to petition their government, literally within steps of where Congress met to acknowledge those rights.

The movement’s goals are at best uncertain, and to the extent they can be determined, in some ways extreme and unrealistic. And as has been demonstrated convincingly with other large political gatherings, it is certainly possible to wade into the crowd to find people whose antics and beliefs can be used to discredit the larger effort.

The protesters are at least pretty clear about what they don’t like: They don’t like the fact that Wall Street and the financial sector benefited enormously from taxpayer-funded bailouts, while insisting that ordinary Americans neither need nor deserve such assistance.

As the protesters like to chant, “The big banks got bailed, but the middle class got left behind.” Rasmussen reports, 79 percent of Americans say they agree with that sentiment. Only 10 percent disagree.

As Rasmussen assesses its poll findings, “The bailouts of the financial industry still leave a sour taste in the mouths of most Americans, who feel as strongly as ever that the government was looking out for bankers rather than taxpayers and that crimes on Wall Street remain unpunished.”

Earlier this year, Gallup conducted what has become an annual polling of Americans on their attitudes toward major corporations. Not surprisingly, given the role that Wall Street greed and arrogance played in creating this economic crisis, the public isn’t all that happy with them.

In fact, two-thirds of Americans say they are dissatisfied with the size and influence of corporations in national life.

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But take another look at the charts above and below. This sense of dissatisfaction and distrust began to grow long before the crisis of 2008. Those events merely helped to crystallize sentiments that in fact had been building for years.

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In other words, it’s easy to dismiss “Occupy Wall Street” as the work of the radical fringe, because in some ways it is. But what makes it bigger than that is the fact that the misgivings and distrust it is expressing are felt much more broadly, not just in campus coffee houses but in small-town diners, and not just in liberal chat rooms but in Tea Party meetings as well.

You don’t have to agree with the solutions they propose in order to recognize that the problems they dramatize and publicize have merit. Tens of millions of American citizens understand that .

– Jay Bookman

658 comments Add your comment

Peadawg

October 6th, 2011
1:34 pm

Armed Liberal

October 6th, 2011
1:35 pm

Charles Pierce has a nice write-up of this as well…

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/occupy-wall-street-demands-6506089

Comments devolve into name calling in 5, 4, 3, 2…

Joe the Plutocrat

October 6th, 2011
1:36 pm

as I said yesterday; will be interesting to see if this ends up like Woodstock or Altamont. the First Amendment and the entire Bill of Rights is a pacifier. it’s a chew toy the oligarchs and plutocrats toss the unwashed masses (or cite) when they want something in return (our money, our vote, our lives).

Daedalus

October 6th, 2011
1:36 pm

Those aren’t “real americans” occupying Wall Street.

I know because I heard it on Fox News.

Peadawg

October 6th, 2011
1:37 pm

“As the protesters like to chant, “The big banks got bailed, but the middle class got left behind.” Rasmussen reports, 79 percent of Americans say they agree with that sentiment. Only 10 percent disagree.”

You can count me in that 79%.

ty webb

October 6th, 2011
1:38 pm

These “occupiers” are the greatest americans ever.

I know because I heard it on MSNBC.

Kamchak

October 6th, 2011
1:39 pm

Cue the “shower” comments in 3…2…1….

Joe Mama

October 6th, 2011
1:40 pm

T. Webb — “I know because I heard it on MSNBC.”

Cite?

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
1:41 pm

A little justice would be nice as well. As far as I know (which might be wrong) only 1 person has been tried in connection with the Great Recession’s banking meltdown.

My question is…why did this take so long to come about?

Normal

October 6th, 2011
1:41 pm

Gotta love it…American men and women out there exercising their right of assembly and shooting a one finger salute to Wall Street. Gawd, I love my country! :)

Armed Liberal

October 6th, 2011
1:42 pm

This protest movement has been downplayed, derided, and dismissed by all of the MSM to date.

CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, FOX, newspapers, and the rest are all part of the 1%.

We are the 99%.

Normal

October 6th, 2011
1:43 pm

Being highly poetic, I would have said “Banks get bailed, Middle Class get nailed”.

TaxPayer

October 6th, 2011
1:43 pm

Given these poll results, I suspect we’ll now be hearing that the Republicans are all of a sudden in favor of the Wall Street bailouts. They wouldn’t want to be seen as in any way supportive of those protesters especially if there happens to be some liberals and union folks and democrats and students and jobless and medicare recipients, etc., associating with them. Probably not a single person recognized as a “job creator” by the Republicans in the whole crowd so what good could they possibly be! :lol:

Aquagirl

October 6th, 2011
1:44 pm

You can count me in that 79%.

Peadawg aligns with the hippie protesters. It’s like cats and dogs living together!

Granny Godzilla

October 6th, 2011
1:44 pm

All this…and no open check book from Dick Armey.

This IS what democracy looks like.

ty webb

October 6th, 2011
1:44 pm

Ah yes, Joe Mama, first selective sanctimony, now selective “cite ?”’s….

Granny Godzilla

October 6th, 2011
1:44 pm

Peadawg

I could just kiss you!

Union

October 6th, 2011
1:44 pm

dont forget the union bailouts.. the pension bailouts.. the list goes on and on.. i guess one thing that pres obama has done well is to create the bogey man.. when the bogey man is actually the one behind the curtain running the show..

Joe the Plutocrat

October 6th, 2011
1:45 pm

Joe Mama, I think Ty was being facetious. I think the more interesting story is the 6 in 10 post 9/11 vets (Afghanistan & Iraq) who give a thumbs down to both wars, and believe the government needs to address domestic issues in the USA before addressing the domestic issues of sovreign nations. anyone (beside the neo-con/talking points crowd) think there might actually be some common DNA in the “occupy Wall Street” crowd and the “end the occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq” crowd? what say ye? this is a no spin zone!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2011
1:45 pm

Stonethrower

October 6th, 2011
1:46 pm

I wonder if Dilbert is the same in every newspaper. Good take on the 1% of the innovators vs the 99% of the rest of us.

mm

October 6th, 2011
1:46 pm

Yeah, the Tea Party protestors are patriots, and the Wall St. protestors are unemployed thugs. So says Fox News.

The Tea Party wants their country back. They just don’t realize who they need to take it back from. News flash. It’s not the government.

Gordon

October 6th, 2011
1:46 pm

Read their manifesto and tell me they aren’t extreme.

One thing on it is to forgive all debt. All mortgages wiped out. All student loans wiped out. Nobody owes anybody anything. Not extreme?

No, it isn’t extreme to be upset about the way things are going, and we all have our ideas on how to fix it. But this group is extreme, and they are certainly not representative of the 99%.

Peadawg

October 6th, 2011
1:47 pm

“Peadawg

I could just kiss you!”

Alright cougar. Down girl.

Union

October 6th, 2011
1:48 pm

Granny Godzilla

October 6th, 2011
1:48 pm

Peadawg

RRRRR….RRRRR…

getalife

October 6th, 2011
1:49 pm

The rest of the American people will be heard.

These protests are not tiny tea parties.

They are the majority of the American people’s tea party.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2011
1:49 pm

http://www.occupytogether.org — Hmmm…. that’s strange. I don’t see a corporate sponsor providing busses, suggesting sending in tea bags, etc.

It is ironic however that Fox and the Tea Party see this as a “threat” when they actually share some commonality with the same portion of the Tea Party ideals and true populism.

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
1:49 pm

Maybe all these protests (Wall Street and the Orange Pekoe Brigade) are being secretly organized by Micheal’s hobby shop to sell more glitter and poster board.

Gordon

October 6th, 2011
1:49 pm

ty webb

October 6th, 2011
1:50 pm

and what’s wrong with calling them “fringe”? I’d take being called “fringe” over being called “racist” anytime.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

October 6th, 2011
1:50 pm

““As the protesters like to chant, “The big banks got bailed, but the middle class got left behind.” Rasmussen reports, 79 percent of Americans say they agree with that sentiment. Only 10 percent disagree.”

You can count me in that 79%.”

So this guy thinks that either banks should have been allowed to fail (the dumbest idea in history) or that the middle class should be handed money. Yeah that makes real sense…

Mick

October 6th, 2011
1:50 pm

Yes, if I was up there I would check it out and lend my voice. I’m not really an activist but even if a jehovah witness comes knocking, I will offer them a cool drink and some thoughtful conversation…

Guy Incognito

October 6th, 2011
1:52 pm

Everybody knows that if you want socail justice………you need a great Drum Circle

Yea, that’ll do it

WOODSTOCK MIKE

October 6th, 2011
1:52 pm

Joe Mama -

Here’s something for you on the super majority, if you actually deny that I understand you better now…

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/05/democrats-lose-supermajority-brown-sworn/

Joe Mama

October 6th, 2011
1:52 pm

T. Webb — “Ah yes, Joe Mama, first selective sanctimony, now selective “cite ?”’s….”

Ah, yes, Mr. Webb, first selective whining, now cowardly complaints.

Nothing stopping YOU from asking Daedalus for a cite. Grow up and act like a man.

Mick

October 6th, 2011
1:53 pm

woodstock

Brown will be toast this next election..

getalife

October 6th, 2011
1:54 pm

I thought we missed the opportunity for real change after the collapse but he we are.

I thought the American people should stop whining about corruption if they would not do anything about it but here we are.

I love it when the American people prove me wrong.

Union

October 6th, 2011
1:54 pm

“CONGRESS PASS THE BUFFETT RULE ON FAIR TAXATION SO THE RICH AND CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE & CLOSE CORPORATE TAX LOOP HOLES AND ENACT A PROHIBITION ON HIDING FUNDS OFF SHORE. No more GE paying zero or negative taxes. Pass the Buffet Rule on fair taxation so the rich pay their fair share. (If we have a really had a good negotiating position and have the place surrounded, we could actually dial up taxes on millionaires, billionaires and corporations even higher…back to what they once were in the 50’s and 60’s.”

good old class warfare.. i like it.. while we are at it.. i say anyone 10% over weight are on their on with health insurance.. anyone that has ever taken any illegal substance be taken off as well as their children.. that would save a bunch right there!

Guy Incognito

October 6th, 2011
1:54 pm

“and no open check book from Dick Armey.”

Nope, just The Tides Foundation, Soros etc……..

Armed Liberal

October 6th, 2011
1:54 pm

Local flavor should you be so inclined:

http://occupyatlanta.org/

Brad Steel

October 6th, 2011
1:54 pm

*Nobody owes anybody anything. Not extreme?

ha ha. of course not. that’s not extreme. nobody owes anything is only for Goldman and AIG types’ it’s not for the little people. don’t be silly.

* http://www.thenation.com/article/153929/aig-bailout-scandal

Peadawg

October 6th, 2011
1:55 pm

“So this guy thinks that either banks should have been allowed to fail (the dumbest idea in history) or that the middle class should be handed money. Yeah that makes real sense…”

I never agreed w/ the bailouts to begin with, correct.

But hand outs to the middle class? You must not know me very well.

Joe Mama

October 6th, 2011
1:57 pm

Mike — “Here’s something for you on the super majority, if you actually deny that I understand you better now…”

Jay’s clarified this spcific point many times on this blog, Mike. Trying to raise it again isn’t going to change things.

Granny Godzilla

October 6th, 2011
1:57 pm

Guy Ingognito

Lies?

No RRRRR RRRR for you.

Mr. Silly Pants.

ty webb

October 6th, 2011
1:57 pm

Joe Mama,
Please, call me Ty, my dad is Mr. Webb.

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
1:58 pm

WOODSTOCK MIKE,

“Yeah that makes real sense”

How about making them take responsibility for the fiasco they created? Like maybe tossing the people who caused this mess out on their butts…instead of giving them million dollar bonuses?

Talking Head

October 6th, 2011
1:59 pm

I have nothing against peaceful protests, even if I don’t agree with protestor’s positions. I do feel however that they are protesting the wrong group.

“As the protesters like to chant, “The big banks got bailed, but the middle class got left behind.” Rasmussen reports, 79 percent of Americans say they agree with that sentiment. Only 10 percent disagree.”

I agree with this, but who bailed out the big banks and financial institutions? THE GOVERNMENT. Why are they not protesting our government? Why are they not protesting Frank Dodd, Barney Frank, or Dick Durbin?

From what I’ve seen, the majority of those protesting are younger people who have probably never had a ‘real job’ and have been misguided and manipulated by those with more sinister ideas. IMO

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
1:59 pm

Mick,

“I will offer them a cool drink and some thoughtful conversation…”

I offer them a close view of my door knocker…If I didn’t invite you to knock on my door, it means I don’t want you there.

JKL2

October 6th, 2011
1:59 pm

Joe- as I said yesterday; will be interesting to see if this ends up like Woodstock or Altamont

Since this is made up of left-wing hate mongers and now has union thugs added to the mix, I voting for the later.

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:00 pm

Union: “good old class warfare”

You mean there is a type of warfare that a Republican is against?

Peadawg

October 6th, 2011
2:00 pm

“I agree with this, but who bailed out the big banks and financial institutions? THE GOVERNMENT. Why are they not protesting our government?” – Very very good point.

Peter

October 6th, 2011
2:00 pm

Poor Woodstock “Angry ” MIKE…… Like all Republican’s he was OK when the Bush Wars Bilked America, and OK when the Banks were helped, but screw the everyday American.

Yup hard to find the Patriotism in that !

Trotsky Foxtrot

October 6th, 2011
2:02 pm

The fundamental test of the Occupy Wall St. movement is whether the Left can finally succeed in reclaiming the terrain of the POLITICAL.

This is what we’re watching to see. Thus far, the protests have continued to be anti-political, and this is what must change if the left is going to be re-energized and form a powerful challenge to the right.

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/matt-stoller-the-anti-politics-of-occupywallstreet.html

jt

October 6th, 2011
2:02 pm

C’mom Obama.
.
Take your own advice that you gave to Mubarack,.
.
Step down…………….for the betterment of America.

Joe Mama

October 6th, 2011
2:03 pm

T. Head — “Why are they not protesting Frank Dodd, Barney Frank, or Dick Durbin?”

Why *would* those individuals need to be the object of protests, please?

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:03 pm

Talking Head: “Why are they not protesting our government? ”

Maybe because while our Congress Critters were complicit in the dismantling of the regulatory system that kept the financial system stable for nearly 80 years, it was Wall Street’s lobbyists that bribed and cajoled them to dismantle it.

Granny Godzilla

October 6th, 2011
2:04 pm

Oh gosh, Oh golly.

The big scarey union thug card.

Y’all are starting to sweat.

Doggone/GA

October 6th, 2011
2:04 pm

“Read their manifesto and tell me they aren’t extreme”

Of course they are. It’s a basic in negotiation. You ALWAYS ask for a lot more than you really want, so you have some things you can negotiate out.

It’s like punitive damages in court. You think you deserve a million dollars. So you ask the court for 100 million, and you stand a really good chance of having it knocked down to a million. You ask for a million, you might only get a thousand.

moonbat betty

October 6th, 2011
2:04 pm

Well…It could end up like Woodstock ‘99

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAcU_j7Hruw

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:04 pm

Talking Head,

“younger people who have probably never had a ‘real job’ ”

Gee…I wonder why that is: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/19/business/economy/19grads.html

Joe the Plutocrat

October 6th, 2011
2:06 pm

you know, had I the time (and motivation) I might pen an ironic missive on ‘class warfare’. in my brilliant treatise I might opine about the very nature of Fox News; the singluar purveyor, if not originator of the phrase (in the post-Obama era), as it would appear the blathering talking heads of Fox News are pre-school/kindergartend teachers, who summon their “class” to sit on the floor (criscross applesauce) so that they might be captivated and educated by fairy tales about big bad wolves, damsels in distress and the like. memo to all the neo-con rubes, you are being played. your overlords talk down to you. they present stilted, innacurate, myths and fabels; because they KNOW (or suspect) you do not have the intellectual curiosity or capacity to think freely. FOR THE LAST TIME; if you consider yourself to be “conservative” and an American, READ THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE (amconmag.com)!!! you’ll get your fix of right-wing pabulum, but you will find cogent, logical, CONSTITUTIONAL rebuts and retorts; and as the saying goes; if you’re not careful, you just might learn something.

getalife

October 6th, 2011
2:06 pm

The tea party was heard no the rest of the American people will be heard.

Get used to it cons because they are here to stay.

God bless the American people.

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:07 pm

And if we’ve learned nothing else from the Middle East, when your country’s youth are disenfranchised and unemployed with no future prospects the establishment is looking at a heap of trouble.

Scout

October 6th, 2011
2:07 pm

One important word you forgot to focus on ………………… “PEACEABLY” !

Unlike the “Tea Party” or other mainline groups, these people (like PETA, etc.) intentionally disrupt the public and confront the police until arrests are made in order to get better news coverage.

Therefore, they have VIOLATED the First Amendment and should not be able to hide behind it.

Matti's Fringed Vest

October 6th, 2011
2:07 pm

Okay, so why does OUR “occupy” thing happen in a park at 6 pm on a Friday? Who’s going to notice? (Besides, I have a date. Um…Hello? This last-minute invitiation stuff isn’t cool.)

Why don’t we occupy the Buckhead financial district during peak business hours instead? Waiting until 6 pm on a Friday to start a protest is kind of like calling somebody’s office at 4:50 on a Friday for something you need THIS WEEK.

mm

October 6th, 2011
2:07 pm

“C’mom Obama.
.
Take your own advice that you gave to Mubarack,.
.
Step down…………….for the betterment of America.”

Actually, no. Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell should step down for blocking all attempts at creating jobs.

Aquagirl

October 6th, 2011
2:08 pm

Why are they not protesting our government?

Some of us prefer to address the root of a problem.

Your Rush/Hannity solution of screaming at Democratic boogeymen hasn’t provided results, unless your desired result is making Rush and Hannity part of the rich overlords—-then it’s been mighty successful. The rest of us aren’t quite satisfied with that.

Talking Head

October 6th, 2011
2:08 pm

Joe Mama,

I guess I could have thrown in Republican names just as easy, but specifically threw in those names because of the Dodd-Frank bill which is making the situation even worse. Dick Durbin because of his amendment that capped what banks can charge vendors for using debit cards. A government created crisis that no doubt government will attempt to fix.

Jewcowboy,

“Maybe because while our Congress Critters were complicit in the dismantling of the regulatory system that kept the financial system stable for nearly 80 years, it was Wall Street’s lobbyists that bribed and cajoled them to dismantle it.”

2 things:

1. The system became unstable in 1913 with the creation of the FED

2. Regardless of who was lobbying, those who accepted the bribes are essentially guilty of not upholding our laws and should be thrown out of office

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:09 pm

“pabulum ”

Ohhh….I got a little twinge of delectation.

Peter

October 6th, 2011
2:09 pm

Go read the thoughts of the Right wing Blog Kyle Wingfield……..He say the minimum wage should be dropped lower.

I guess Republican’s desire for more American’s who reply on those jobs, to be even lower on the poverty scale……. Funny how can a Republican say he cares about children with that attitude ?

Yup hard to find the Patriotism in that !

WOODSTOCK MIKE

October 6th, 2011
2:10 pm

“Poor Woodstock “Angry ” MIKE…… Like all Republican’s he was OK when the Bush Wars Bilked America, and OK when the Banks were helped, but screw the everyday American.

Yup hard to find the Patriotism in that !”

Peter please explain to me how the GOP has made your life so horrible. Give me exact reasons as to how the GOP changed your life. And than please tell me what policies from the Obama administration has made your life so fantastic. This should be good.

And Peter if you think anyone is happy about the Iraq war your’e sick.

getalife

October 6th, 2011
2:10 pm

The gop said the small minority of the tea party was the American people.

No gop, these are the rest of the American people and you cons are scared to death of them because you attacked them.

Joe Mama

October 6th, 2011
2:10 pm

Scout — “Therefore, they have VIOLATED the First Amendment and should not be able to hide behind it.”

Well, then, when any of these protestors break the law, let’s see them arrested and prosecuted for their misdeeds.

Unless and until that happens, however, I’m afraid you’ll have to tolerate their lawful and peaceful protest.

Granny Godzilla

October 6th, 2011
2:10 pm

This might be the right time to post some wise words from a Republican….

Manchester, NH — Republican presidential candidate Buddy Roemer released the following statement regarding the Occupy Wall Street Movement.
As I continue touring college campuses throughout New Hampshire, I am reminded of all the young Americans currently taking part in the Occupy Wall Street movement. Please know that I stand by you.

It is Main Street that creates the majority of jobs in America; it is Main Street that sends our brave young men and women to war; it is Main Street that hurts when another manufacturing plant closes only to be re-opened in China; it is Main Street that is being foreclosed on; and it is Main Street that is suffering while the greed of Wall Street continues to hurt our middle-class.

Too-big-to-fail banks have only gotten bigger thanks to government bailouts, and as president, I will end the corporate tax loopholes that un-American corporations take advantage of only to ship our jobs overseas. Fair trade not Free trade.

Money in politics has created institutional corruption. Both parties are guilty of taking the big check and are bought by Wall Street. My campaign is the only one that speaks out against this and I look forward to the day lobbyists are not allowed to donate to campaigns.

Wall Street grew to be a source of capital for growing companies. It has become something else: A facilitator for greed and for the selling of American jobs. Enough already.

Buddy Roemer (R)

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:10 pm

Matti,

“Why don’t we occupy the Buckhead financial district during peak business hours instead?”

Because then I’m going have to call Zone 2 on you…and I really don’t want to have to do that. ;)

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2011
2:11 pm

Read their manifesto and tell me they aren’t extreme

The Tea Party manifesto?

So far these Americans have been peaceful protestors who have attempted to create a true populist movement to address issues which Congress is not. If you pay attention they are going after the corporate money powers and the lobbyist who so often pull “puppet strings” in Washington. Amazing that the right’s objection is that the problem is government and that Wall Street is exempt. There are problems at the fed. government level, there are problems at the state level, there are problems with Wall Street and there are problems with “special interests with money” throughout the system. In a rational world, a rational independent Tea Party would embrace many of the same populist complaints raised by these groups.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

October 6th, 2011
2:11 pm

Peter, are you aware that there is a Democrat in office?

Irony

October 6th, 2011
2:12 pm

All this…and an open check book from George Soros.

This IS what marixism looks like.

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:13 pm

Talking Head,

“The system became unstable in 1913 with the creation of the FED”

Then please explain nearly 80 years of a stable financial system after the Great Depression.

“Regardless of who was lobbying, those who accepted the bribes are essentially guilty of not upholding our laws and should be thrown out of office”

And those proffering the bribes in out of their corporate suite.

David B.

October 6th, 2011
2:13 pm

This is the protest of ordinary Americans. If you checked out We Are The 99 Percent tumblr link, you’d see their (our) stories: nurses who don’t have health care, adults living with their senior parents because of illness and unemployment. People who still can’t get by on the jobs they have.

Joe Mama

October 6th, 2011
2:13 pm

T. Head — “I guess I could have thrown in Republican names just as easy, but specifically threw in those names because of the Dodd-Frank bill which is making the situation even worse. Dick Durbin because of his amendment that capped what banks can charge vendors for using debit cards. A government created crisis that no doubt government will attempt to fix.”

Point well taken, but I respectfully submit that the problems you illustrate are most likely not what those protestors are angry about. I suspect they’re more upset about corporate involvement in elections, shady funding of political whispering campaigns, and a whole host of market-meltdown-related hijinks.

Waheema

October 6th, 2011
2:14 pm

Not fringe???
Let’s see, the Occupiers want to wipe out debt and give the state the power to sieze private property at will.
The fact that Bookman does not see this collection of poorly educated, pampered children as “fringe” tells me a lot more about what a whack job Jay is than it does about the children on Wall Street.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

October 6th, 2011
2:14 pm

Joe Mama -

If you really somehow don’t recognize the super majority that’s very scary, spin it and twist it any weird way you want, even Obama himself recognized the super majority?? More links, I guess they are all lies…

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6187663.ece

Keep Up the Good Fight!

October 6th, 2011
2:14 pm

Ahhh… Scout, he runs from the name Tony Bolgna but he’ll defend the police even when they are wrong.

Does anyone know how many members of the actual Wall Street club have been arrested for the laws they broke? How many from Goldman Sachs? How many bankers arrested for robosigning and filing false pleadings with the courts?

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:14 pm

Some of us would really like not to become serfs of the corporate overlords.

And with that I’m off for a briefing on SRTA’s HOT Lanes. This should actually be a meeting I do not sleep through.

Granny Godzilla

October 6th, 2011
2:15 pm

Irony

Liar Liar silly pants on fire.

Matti's Fringed Vest

October 6th, 2011
2:15 pm

Manifestos are SO last century! In this century, we have “agile” rebellions. With no clear goal, we make it up as we go along.

(Snicker if you get that.)

Trotsky Foxtrot

October 6th, 2011
2:16 pm

Talking head: “Why are they not protesting our government?”

Because the people inside those Wall St. buildings largely own that government.

Mick

October 6th, 2011
2:16 pm

jewcowboy

Where have you been?

RB from Gwinnett

October 6th, 2011
2:17 pm

Are they protesting over at GM headquarters too?? They got bailed out too and I still have to pay the same for a new car. Didn’t help the middle class any did it??

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:18 pm

Mick,

“Where have you been?”

work work work…I have to pay to keep our corporate masters in foie gras… ;)

mm

October 6th, 2011
2:18 pm

I’ll give it another week before the Koch brothers have their rightwing goons infiltrate the protest in order to start riots and such.

Adam

October 6th, 2011
2:19 pm

Before I read the article:

THANK YOU SO MUCH Jay for posting about this subject. It is about time it got filtered into mainstream and finally, to us regulars on your blog.

Number 2) It’s Obama’s Fault! Solyndra! Soros! Socialist!

Granny Godzilla

October 6th, 2011
2:19 pm

Pics from yesterday

All those beautiful Americans!

jewcowboy

October 6th, 2011
2:19 pm

RB from Gwinnett,

“Didn’t help the middle class any did it??”

Nah…just about middle class jobs saved. But who needs a job, right?

St Simons - we're on Island time

October 6th, 2011
2:19 pm

In Russia,1917, it took less than 40 minutes to nationalize the royal companies, when everybody got mad enough – jus sayin

Peadawg

October 6th, 2011
2:19 pm

“Are they protesting over at GM headquarters too?? They got bailed out too and I still have to pay the same for a new car. Didn’t help the middle class any did it??”

Bailing out the auto industry which helped keep jobs intact vs. bailing out big banks which helped fatten CEO and Wall Street’s wallets….see the difference?

Talking Head

October 6th, 2011
2:20 pm

jewcowboy,

what’s your definition of stable? a false sense of an economy? artificially creating supply by flooding the market with paper money?

joe,

“I suspect they’re more upset about corporate involvement in elections, shady funding of political whispering campaigns, and a whole host of market-meltdown-related hijinks.”

Well I can agree with that kind of position, I hope it stays on that point. Additionally, I hope those involved protesting know that it’s a 2 ways street between big banks/financial institutions and our Government causing this mess.