The ‘magic button’ of economics doesn’t work
Growing up in the ’60s, William Beach knew it was a good idea to show up to caddy at the local country club on Thursdays. The future economist knew that on Thursdays, most of the rich men in town skipped work and met at the course to play golf, and they would usually be good for healthy tips.
Today, Beach works as head of data analysis at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative Washington think tank. Looking back, he told a Georgia Public Policy Foundation conference last week, he believes that those high-earning men worked just four days a week because at the time, high marginal tax rates of 90 percent to 70 percent didn’t make it worth their time to work a full schedule.
In other words, marginal tax rates drive the availability of country club tee times.
Beach didn’t seem to be joking in those remarks, and his audience certainly didn’t take it that way. His story offers a wonderful example of what I call “magic-button economics,” the tendency to explain almost anything that happens in economics and human life through the factor of tax rates on the wealthy.
Christine Ries, an economics professor at Georgia Tech who served on a state tax-reform commission last year, also subscribes to magic-button economics. In her own presentation at the GPPF conference, Ries bemoaned the Legislature’s failure to adopt the commission’s recommendations earlier this year, but predicted the setback would be temporary.
The commission’s recommendations, she reminded her listeners, would have reduced the tax burden on the wealthiest of Georgians — the “job creators,” she called them — by cutting the state income tax rate in half. To her credit, Ries also acknowledged that cutting taxes on the wealthy would mean putting more of the tax burden on the lower and middle classes, mainly by broadening the sales tax to apply to items such as food. But that’s a burden they should be willing to bear, she said.
“If you’re going to put a good tax reform proposal together, it’s going to be regressive,” she said. “People are going to have to accept that.”
Georgia already has a very low tax burden on business, she acknowledged. But it’s essential to Georgia’s future that taxes on the wealthy be made lower still, especially since the state is trying to compete with states such as Florida, South Carolina and Tennessee, with even lower taxes on job creators.
If Georgia enacts such reform, she predicted “growth beyond what any of us imagine, in a shorter time than any of us imagine.”
In other words, magic-button economics.
Unfortunately, the magic button hasn’t seemed to work for Florida, with a 10.7 percent unemployment rate; or for Tennessee, with a 9.7 percent unemployment rate; or for South Carolina, which has an unemployment rate of 11.1 percent, all well above the national average of 9.1 percent.
It also hasn’t worked at the national level. President Bush hit the magic button hard, enacting major tax cuts in 2001 and 2003. Yet even before the recession hit, gross domestic product and the number of jobs had both grown more slowly in the 2000s than they had since World War II.
In their comments, Ries and Beach talked about computerized economic models that Heritage Foundation is creating to help legislators and citizens project the impact of tax reform in Georgia. Those models will assume that tax reform inspires considerable growth, Ries confirmed in emails after the conference.
In other words, those models will project “magic-button” economic growth that is likely to be much too optimistic, putting the state budget at great risk. In fact, such models are so notoriously inaccurate that the Congressional Budget Office refuses to use them to project revenue.
Earlier this year, for example, Heritage used such assumptions to model the impact of a GOP proposal to cut a variety of taxes at the national level, with most again accruing to the wealthy. According to the model, the proposal would lower unemployment to 6.4 percent by next year, and to an unheard-of 2.8 percent by 2021.
After howls of disbelief from other economists, Heritage was forced to withdraw those projections as unrealistic. But that same approach is now coming to Georgia.
– Jay Bookman
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Good little liberal
October 5th, 2011
3:39 pm
Joe Mama
OK, Now I’ll probably piss you off, but I don’t think that waterboarding is as bad as its made out to be. There’s lots of other stuff like sleep deprivation, I can’t even remember them all now, but nothing like the old fashion, torture. Yes, waterboarding probably shouldn’t be used, but to compare it to the real thing sort of degrades the suffering some of our soldiers have had to go through.
There’s that old Viet Nam film of the first two prisoners being thrown out of a helicopter and then the third prisoner being questioned. I’m not justifying any of it, but I think there are different degrees of it and that is something that is often overlooked.
Remember the pictures from abu grabe where a guard was holding back an attack dog that was scaring the b-jesus out of a prisoner (actually scaring the b-mohammond) It just shocked America. Does no one watch COPS? (Bad boys, bad boys, what cha gonna do?)
Some 16 year old kid steals a car, ditches it and tried to run, nobody is holding back the attack dog. They get their arses ate off by those dogs.
The point that I am making is that all this stuff is blown out of proportion. I make my living with images and manipulating them to suite my needs. Yes, its mostly film or video, but I’m always amazed at how easy it is to make something look better than it is or much worse.
Before the Olympics, I worked a lot for NHK, the Japanese NBC all over Georgia. I started as a videographer, but quickly mover to Director of Photography for them. The most gracious people i have ever worked for. The director didn’t speak a word of English and his interpreter was this stunning woman that my wife (at the time ) hated. Just a great experience all around. And they paid great.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
October 5th, 2011
3:40 pm
Well, I say phooey on Paul for bringing up my name and Romney’s Mormon Underpants. The only reason I brought them up was because a guy that wears underpants that need to be unwrapped and untied to get them off is nuts. I mean, when you got to go you don’t have time for that stuff. I don’t want a President that walks around all wet in the middle all the time.
AmVet
October 5th, 2011
3:40 pm
“Someone told me that last year that North Dakota was the only nation that actually was running a surplus. And it’s because they’re utilizing their natural energy resources,” Bachmann added.
Alas, the Queen of Quazy was wrong.
Three other nations – Montana, Alaska and Arkansas – also had surpluses…
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
October 5th, 2011
3:40 pm
Armed Liberal
October 5th, 2011
3:38 pm
Hahahahahaha – I knew that last post would make some libs head explode. Been gone for a while and thought I’d stir the pot. Just having some fun. “lol”.
Paul
October 5th, 2011
3:40 pm
sfd
Any Republican?
Ask “Obama or Bachmann” and watch the numbers go crazy!
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:41 pm
Paul — “No LDS practice polygamy. It’s automatic excommunication. They may call themselves some variant of ‘LDS” but they are definitely NOT LDS.”
I don’t credit that line of argument any more than I credit the ‘Paul Hill shot an abortion doctor so he’s not REALLY a Christian” argument. And the whole who-is-and-who-isn’t LDS is kind of a sore spot with me and my wife; I’d really appreciate it if the missionaries they send to try to pull her back into the church would just eff right off like we’ve asked them to do the last 20 times they’ve visited.
If the LDS would drop people who say ‘leave me alone,’ then I might be more amenable to accepting your argument. But this whole authoritarian ‘we say who’s in AND who’s out AND we don’t care what YOU say’ position just makes me very uncharitably disposed towards the entire LDS establishment.
“Y’know, someone just may have asked Lieberman that. Nothing would surprise me when it comes to boorish behavior by the media.”
I’ll ask my wife to join me in having a look. It might take a day or two. And please remind me if a couple of days pass and I haven’t posted anything about it.
“I rather like the “by their fruits you shall know them” test. And by and large, I’ve found them to be a pretty charitable and good group of people. Heck, the fact we can have one LDS guy running for president and another LDS guy running the Senate, and have them on polar opposites of the political divide, is pretty indicative they have a pretty large tent when it comes to political views. Which is what I’m most interested in.”
I’m interested in his political views AND in his religious views. Particularly since the religious views of some of our elected leaders hold that I’m not a “real American.”
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 5th, 2011
3:42 pm
Here it is if you have the integrity to read it
After you have read it, please check Box 23 and then respond that Biden did X so from now on I wont answer questions but I will demand you respond to mine.
That’s integrity!
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:42 pm
1811 — “Time to change our “USMC” bumper stickers to say, “Heterosexual Marine” !”
Just in case anyone took a look at you and got the wrong idea, stud.
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
3:42 pm
The Leg Lamp is a “major award” @ 3:27 pm
“More news of the unsinkable U.S.S. Obamic”
Hey ……………. the libs. on here don’t like all of those articles that make them have to defend Obama. You had better be careful or they will start hating you as much as they hate me.
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
3:43 pm
Joe Mama:
Exactly !
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:44 pm
HDB — “Lest you also forget that Colin Powell was BOOED off the stage at the GOP Convention for saying this:
“”We must be firm, but we must also be fair. We must make sure that reduced government spending does not single out the poor and the middle class. Corporate welfare, welfare for the wealthy must be first in line for elimination. All of us, all of us, my friends, all of us must be willing to do with less from government if we are to avoid condemning our children and grandchildren with a crushing burden of debt which will deny them the American dream.”
“You all know that I believe in a woman’s right to choose and I strongly support affirmative action. I was invited here to share my views with you because we are big enough party and big enough people to disagree on individual issues and still work together for our primary goal.”
If you don’t march in LOCKSTEP, you won’t even be thought of! That’s the ONLY reason people like Cain, Clarence Thomas, Larry Elder, Star Parker, Walter Williams…ans Thomas Sowell are viewed in the light that they are….but I BET that more prejoratives are said about them BEHIND THEIR BACKS rather than to their faces!!”
QUOTED FOR TRUTH
And Ragnar needs to read abou Powell being booed.
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
3:44 pm
Good Fight:
“but I will demand you respond to mine.”
Sorry pal ………… I don’t work for you.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
October 5th, 2011
3:44 pm
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
3:42 pm
but…..but…..liberals don’t hate…. BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
3:45 pm
Joe Mama:
I got booed a lot while in uniform in the “Nam” days.
Suck it up !
Paul
October 5th, 2011
3:46 pm
Redneck Convert
You must be havin’ those spiritual revelations to get a message that quick that I mentioned your name.
Okay, I see your point. But as you put a personal spin on it, might I assume you’d benefit from Detrol? I understand it does wonders for incontinence.
Nothing to be ashamed of. Happens to lots of people when they get older. And in just a couple years, you’ll get it for next to nothing on your Medicare prescription drug plan!
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
3:46 pm
One more time:
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm
Keep Up the Good Fight!
October 5th, 2011
3:46 pm
Scout, yep, you don’t work for me. I would have fired you long ago.
Peadawg
October 5th, 2011
3:46 pm
This whole Fast and Furious thing…did Holder lie when he testified before Congress back in May? If so…shouldn’t he be indicted for perjury?
I don’t know much about it…just from what I’ve read on CNN and whatnot. But I haven’t heard a peep out of Obama on this. Shouldn’t we be calling for Holder’s resignation?
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:46 pm
Leg Lamp — “ANY REPUBLICAN 47% OBAMA 41% ”
Already dealt with this morning. Next.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
October 5th, 2011
3:47 pm
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:44 pm
How did the democrats feel about Zell Miller speaking at the GOP convention?
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
October 5th, 2011
3:47 pm
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:46 pm
Niiiiiiice. And what about the other items in the laundry of my post?
Peadawg
October 5th, 2011
3:47 pm
“but I will demand you respond to mine.” – Good luck with that, punkin.
stands for decibels
October 5th, 2011
3:48 pm
Mittens – I’ve no idea what that means, but thought it sounded rather cute.
Sort of the point, really–Romney doesn’t come off as being terribly warm and fuzzy, so you have a classic comic juxtaposition.
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:51 pm
GLL — “OK, Now I’ll probably piss you off, but I don’t think that waterboarding is as bad as its made out to be.”
It doesn’t matter to me whether it’s bad or not. We PROSECUTED people for doing it in WWII. Now WE do it. It’s really as simple as that, as far as I’m concerned.
“The point that I am making is that all this stuff is blown out of proportion. I make my living with images and manipulating them to suite my needs. Yes, its mostly film or video, but I’m always amazed at how easy it is to make something look better than it is or much worse.”
I don’t see how the act of waterboarding could have been made any more or less illegal via photography or videography. :/
“Before the Olympics, I worked a lot for NHK, the Japanese NBC all over Georgia.”
Nihon Hoso Kyokai.
“I started as a videographer, but quickly mover to Director of Photography for them. The most gracious people i have ever worked for. The director didn’t speak a word of English and his interpreter was this stunning woman that my wife (at the time ) hated. Just a great experience all around. And they paid great.”
THAT’S why you want to visit Japan! You’re looking for that hawt translator woman!
Kramer
October 5th, 2011
3:51 pm
Jay
October 5th, 2011
6:56 am
It’s amazing how quickly every topic devolves into “Oh yeah, well Obama sucks!”
It always works for you liberals when you do the same about Bush. Learn to man up Book Man or preach the same restraint to your liberal friends. Karma sucks.
Claire
October 5th, 2011
3:51 pm
I wear a religious g-string on the weekends.
Mighty Righty
October 5th, 2011
3:51 pm
Debbie Wasserman Shults said “Anyone can see the economy is getting better”. The woman is certifiably insane. Even Obama doesn’t think things are getting better!
Paul
October 5th, 2011
3:52 pm
Joe Mama
We’d get those guys knocking on our door quite regularly. I asked “don’t you keep a notebook of who you talk to who says ‘thanks but no thanks?” They said “nope. We rotate in and out of areas every few months and this is just a nice neighborhood.”
So it may not be anything personal.
You might want to ask the local head of their congregation to put you on a ‘do not call list.” Couldn’t hurt.
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:53 pm
1811 — “I got booed a lot while in uniform in the “Nam” days. Suck it up !”
Ever get spit on?
Good little liberal
October 5th, 2011
3:54 pm
HDB
I understand what you are saying, but I disagree that this administration has actually worked to correct problems.
Take the current Jobs bill. The Republicans wanted to vote on it this week but the Democrats blocked the vote, but Obama is saying “pass the bill” wherever he goes. How are they going to pass it if they won’t allow a vote?
Democrats are incredibly good politicians. They also use the fact that they know that they can say they want to do something and many times, that’s enough. They don’t have to actually do it. They just say that they want to do it.
I would say that the reason why they don’t campaign in areas that are primarily black is the same reason why they don’t campaign in areas that are mostly white but incredibly liberal. Limited funds means that you spend the least amount of money for the most votes.
Honestly, do you really think that they would have a lot of Blacks that would change their mind and vote for them if they held a rally in the areas that you mentioned?
I know to you that it is racist (or not), but I believe it is simply a matter of pandering in places where they think that they have a shot in changing some people’s minds. I mean come on . . . over 95% for Obama, a culture than calls Republicans uncle toms? Where would you spend your money?
Paul
October 5th, 2011
3:54 pm
“I was invited here to share my views with you because we are big enough party and big enough people to disagree on individual issues and still work together for our primary goal.””
Then again, maybe not!
out for a bit -
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:55 pm
Leg Lamp — “How did the democrats feel about Zell Miller speaking at the GOP convention?”
I can’t speak for anyone other than myself, but I thought the Saturday Night Live caricature of him arguing with Chris Matthews was spot-on. Did you see it?
“Ah want a President who’ll pertect us with BOMBS an’ AIRPLANES an’ SPACESHIPS!!!”
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
3:55 pm
Good Fight:
What? No Union Contract ???
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
3:56 pm
Leg Lamp — “Niiiiiiice. And what about the other items in the laundry of my post?”
That was all kicked around earlier today. You could try starting an argument about it, tho. Would that help?
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
3:56 pm
Joe Mama:
“1811 — “I got booed a lot while in uniform in the “Nam” days. Suck it up !”
Ever get spit on?”
Fortunately for the other person no because under the law that is “assault & battery” and worthy of a counter assault & battery.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
October 5th, 2011
3:59 pm
“Michael Moore: The Rich Are Out Of Control, Kleptomaniacs And Sociopaths…”
So will Obama stop calling it the “Buffet plan” and refer to is as the “Kleptomaniac plan” or the “Sociopath plan”?
HDB
October 5th, 2011
4:02 pm
Good little liberal
October 5th, 2011
3:54 pm
“Honestly, do you really think that they would have a lot of Blacks that would change their mind and vote for them if they held a rally in the areas that you mentioned?
I know to you that it is racist (or not), but I believe it is simply a matter of pandering in places where they think that they have a shot in changing some people’s minds. I mean come on . . . over 95% for Obama, a culture than calls Republicans uncle toms?”
How can you affect change if you REFUSE to initiate the process? If you change ONE person’s mind…..it’s one more vote FOR you!! If you persist in IGNORING and DENIGRATING a constituency…..what would you expect??
When black Republicans DON’T kowtow to what the GOP spouts….that they have the capacity to think for themselves, that person is PILLORIED by those in the GOP! Look at Colin Powell…..he should be the poster child for the GOP…but he got treated like a stepchild at the GOP Convention! If you persist in denigrating a community….what do you think you’d be called???
Can you change someone’s mind…..never know unless you TRY!!
FrankLeeDarling
October 5th, 2011
4:06 pm
Fresh sheets
1811/0311
October 5th, 2011
4:08 pm
I kid you not:
Headline: “Wife Who Killed, Cooked Man in Court”
Why didn’t the bailiffs stop her?
Stevie Ray
October 5th, 2011
4:10 pm
AmVet, I can tell you missed me desperately since I had the whole work thingy to deal with this afternoon. You been a busy bee alleging gloom, doom, and despair all at the hands of the evil capitalists. Please consider that there is a difference in saying the 80% flatliners is a good thing versus what my actual position remains (my bad if misunderstood). I agree with you data 100% but there are too many variables involved in your limited assessment. Not a one of us or any capitalist can do anything about this fact so yes, I have no problem and it would serve not good..I also agree that government is corrupted by the AARP and AFL-CIO in relatively equal amounts as by big business. Your “sky is falling” posture is emotional hubris. No way any of us will allow grandma not to get her SS check, or the kid with advance diabetes lose Medicare coverage, or unfortunately, the Medicaid recipient getting $100 bucks a night reimbursement for skilled nursing (institutionalized death needs to be eliminated). How were you feeling about it when your home tripled in value between 1988 and 2004? Where you this vociferous when your tech stocks were doubling with every hot rumor? Taking my and those evildoing right wingers comments out of context is a strategy straight out of the Rush Limbaugh or BIG ED textbook.
Good little liberal
October 5th, 2011
4:12 pm
Joe Mama
Not specifically waterboarding, but even prisoners with hoods over their heads. That looks very un-American to a lot of people, but every police department use spit guards that look just like a hood.
As far as the woman at NHK:
She was also married and I’m sure she still is. (Unlike me)
Just that gentle, feminine way about her. We did a piece in the South Georgia Swamp and she wore shorts that were way too short. It was a rough day for all of us. But she never lost her cool, even when the guide was pulling in a 12 foot male gator and we were all diving for the back of the boat.
We spent the night in Jacksonville and my wife surprised me by showing up at the hotel. It was perfectly OK with me, and probably made the Japanese woman more at ease around me. Funny how things work out. I would have never had a prayer with that woman, which of course made her much more attractive.
Stevie Ray
October 5th, 2011
4:13 pm
Claire, I’m presently between wives and it sounds like we may have some common interests? Religious g-string…I can dig it. Sorry, couldn’t resist and hope I no offend:-)
The Leg Lamp is a "major award".....
October 5th, 2011
4:17 pm
“SENATE DEMS REWRITE OBAMA JOBS BILL ”
Now it’s sure to fail in Congress.
Brosephus™ - A rising tide lifts all boats, and a Rolling Tide lifts the Coaches Trophy on 1/9/12
October 5th, 2011
4:18 pm
I mean come on . . . over 95% for Obama, a culture than calls Republicans uncle toms?
Is that any different than the 94% for LBJ?
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/blacks-and-the-democratic-party/
Even after that, Republican nominees continued to get a large slice of the black vote for several elections. Dwight D. Eisenhower got 39 percent in 1956, and Richard Nixon got 32 percent in his narrow loss to John F. Kennedy in 1960.
But then President Lyndon B. Johnson pushed through the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 (outlawing segregation in public places) and his eventual Republican opponent, Sen. Barry Goldwater, opposed it. Johnson got 94 percent of the black vote that year, still a record for any presidential election.
The following year Johnson signed the 1965 Voting Rights Act. No Republican presidential candidate has gotten more than 15 percent of the black vote since.
It’s not like the Obama election was some type of abberation, regardless to how people try to portray it as one.
Good little liberal
October 5th, 2011
4:21 pm
HDB
I completely agree, but its simply a matter of numbers. You spend a day and a few thousand bucks to change one mind when you could have spent the same resources and changed 500 minds. That’s 500 votes.
I’ve worked on a few campaigns, certainly not as a decision maker and I have worked for both parties (show me the money). They both gauge appearances as to the amount of votes that they can get.
Like I said, I don’t know it that’s the reason but I would be willing to bet that it is.
I’ll definitely admit that it would interesting to find a Black community where in that specific area, Democrats didn’t have such extreme domination and see if Republican candidates would canvas there. I would bet that they would. No matter what color your skin is, a vote is a vote.
Corey
October 5th, 2011
4:27 pm
For the one millionth time: When the economy loses 20% of GDP and businesses are not spending, and consumers are holding tight to their cash government has to step in and create demand by lowering the tax rate on the consumer class which Mr. Obama did via 25% of the stimulus and by lowering the payroll tax on the consumer class and throwing a lifeline to state and local governments. Hey but it is so easy to regurgitate right wing drool “a failure” “the stimulus didn’t work” “socialist” “deficit spending” laced with Georgian “Obozo”" Nobama”. Do any of you stop and ponder what the economy would have looked like if government just sat on its hands and waited for the markets to right the ship. I know its hard to critique what ifs. There is not a single economist, who is not blinded by politics, that did not agree that a stimulus was needed. They did differ with each other on the size and scope, however.
Stevie Ray
October 5th, 2011
4:27 pm
Hey Good Liberal, I agree with your post, if I understood it correctly, about where the campaign money goes except I think it’s business as usual and certainly not racist. I’m very hopeful that the former Pizza Man Cain, at least makes a good showing….maybe VP to show the universe and ourselves that color is no longer the barrier it has been….long ways to go but as much as I think Obama’s a repeat of Jimmy Carter, I love that the mix is opening up to more than just us dull and endangered anglo middle aged nutjobs….
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
4:38 pm
Paul — “So it may not be anything personal.”
It is. They ask for my wife by name. Sometimes, if she answers the door, they address her by name on sight. They know exactly what they’re doing and exactly who they are there to speak to.
There’s a great deal of material online about just how buttheaded the LDS is in letting go of former members who don’t want anything to do with them any more. They’re as bad as I hear the Scientologists are in that respect.
“You might want to ask the local head of their congregation to put you on a ‘do not call list.” Couldn’t hurt.”
Doesn’t help. They demand that you jump through all kinds of paperwork and interview hoops that are, IMO, all designed to keep you IN the LDS church. And they tend to “lose” paperwork or “require” additional interviews.
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
4:39 pm
GLL — “Honestly, do you really think that they would have a lot of Blacks that would change their mind and vote for them if they held a rally in the areas that you mentioned?”
Mighty oaks from little acorns grow.
Stevie Ray
October 5th, 2011
4:40 pm
Corey, please name me an economist who is not blinded by politics. For every one you site supporting stimulous spending, I can offer up the same number of those suggesting it was a complete waste of borrowed money and a lot of it. You can get tired of saying it but you can’t back it up with 3,000,000 W-2’s of jobs either created or saved by this spending….Also, GDP has not dropped 20% as long as I’ve been breathing. It did drop by 6% in 2009 but that year aside, its grown albeit anemically. In the absence of solid undisputable evidence of actual jobs created or how stimulous otherwise kept us from going deeper I submit to you it’s hubris to think otherwise.
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
4:42 pm
1811 — “Fortunately for the other person no because under the law that is “assault & battery” and worthy of a counter assault & battery.”
I’m neither an attorney nor a law enforcement officer, but I’m pretty sure that the whole eye-for-an-eye notion only applies to the Hammurabic Code. If someone assaults you and you can reasonably remove yourself from the situation but choose to stay and fight, then I think you stand a good chance of being arrested and charged right along with the perp.
Joe Mama
October 5th, 2011
4:44 pm
GLL — “We did a piece in the South Georgia Swamp and she wore shorts that were way too short.”
Oh, yummy. Hawt Japanese woman in short shorts. Now I need to go home.