Is GOP field about to get a major new entrant?
Under the headline “Chris Christie seriously considering run for president in 2012,” the Star Ledger in New Jersey reports:
BATON ROUGE — Gov. Chris Christie is seriously rethinking his months of denials and may launch a campaign for the White House after all, a source close to the governor said tonight.
In the last week, Christie has been swayed away from his earlier refusals to run by an aggressive draft effort from a cadre of Republicans and donors unhappy with the GOP field, said the source, who was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity….
At a campaign rally here today for Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Christie continued to criticize Obama’s leadership, but ignored several questions from reporters about whether he would seek the White House.
“If you’re looking for leadership in America you’re not going to find it in the Oval Office,” Christie said today in Baton Rouge.
The rally and a fundraiser afterward capped off a cross-country tour by the governor, where his Reagan Library speech Tuesday served to only stoke speculation that he might reverse course and seek the Republican nomination for president…
In addition, the governor’s wife, Mary Pat, no longer objects to a presidential run, according to an adviser to the governor.
The governor has famously said “my wife would kill me” as a reason not to run. However, a few months ago former first lady Barbara Bush called Mary Pat to assuage her concerns about life in the White House, the adviser said.
If so, welcome to the Big Top, governor. Given factors such as geography (another Northeast governor) and where he falls on the political spectrum, the person with the most to lose from Christie’s entry would be Mitt Romney. And it would certainly add some intrigue to the next Republican debate.
– Jay Bookman
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ragnar danneskjold
September 30th, 2011
10:02 am
Dear USinUK @ 9:52, thanks, I respect you for recognizing the inconsistencies and acknowledging your ambivalence. Many of our leftist friends will ignore the lack of trial and appeals for Anwar al-Aulaqi.
AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!
September 30th, 2011
10:02 am
I generally avoid discussing issues related to personal appearance.
But if I were one of the delusional neo-cons here, I’d have to ask if Christie’s wife was as morbidly obese as Michelle Obama…
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:02 am
“How can you type that you are not in favor of the dealth penalty but only 3 typed lines above that you claim good riddance as punishment for what his crimes were?”
does one have a problem with the word “IF”? again, I would have preferred that he be arrested in Yemen and brought here by the gov’t, tried and convicted.
of course, if he did, there would be HOWLS from the right similar to those when we arrested the pirates and decided to bring them to trial
Mighty Righty
September 30th, 2011
10:02 am
Funny how liberals oppose poring water on someones face but tracking them down and blowing them up with rockets as they peacefully drive down the street is okay. Weird.
philosopher
September 30th, 2011
10:03 am
“Many of you here act like you have no vices at all and are in 100% perfectly good health.”
Once again, this is not about us-you are using a fallacious argument. This degree of obesity is what is being discussed- it’s not looks and it’s not a “somewhere in the future this will cause me problems” issue. This is immediate. The problems associated with it are already “cooking”…diabetes, heart disease, great vessel disease, stroke, DVT, etc, etc, etc….this guy already in trouble.
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:03 am
thewindwhistler — “He is along the lines of FDR, honest, forthright, plain spoken”
Apparently not.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/10/nyregion/10christie.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
larry
September 30th, 2011
10:04 am
The “thin” one who is occupying government housing at present has made lots of decisions that will affect you and most of them are not so good for you or your children
Actually , he has. Thanks to him, insurance companies can not deny or drop coverage to children who has pre-existing conditions. Which helps greatly in my home.
Good Little Liberal
September 30th, 2011
10:05 am
getalife
I knew that Keep Up was hiding until I left, then he came on and presented yet another sanctimonious lecture. It’s a trick I use to draw him out. Works every time.
Pretty cool, huh?
I’m leaving now . . . . I’m leaving . . . You can come out now, Keep Up. I really am this time. I really am . . . .
Hootinanny Yum Yum
September 30th, 2011
10:06 am
retired early @ 9:52 am
“Personally, I think someone who is dangerously obese, lack the discipline required to be an effective leader. Moderately overweight is OK…but this man is a walking blimp.”
However, a married man who can’t keep his “cigar” in his pants has the discipline to be an effective leader. I get it now.
AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!
September 30th, 2011
10:06 am
In general, Republicans from the Northeast are THE troubling outliers for the “base”.
They are well educated, informed, reasoned and reasonable moderates.
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:06 am
ragnar – hey, I’m human. I acknowledge that there is a part of me that calls for blood. I try to rise above it and often wish I was a better person / more ghandi-like.
getalife
September 30th, 2011
10:06 am
He admitted he is not ready.
Just run willard and lose again.
sam
September 30th, 2011
10:07 am
by the way, mr christie has got skeletons in the closet….also, he has twinkies in the pocket…nailed it, yes!!
stands for decibels
September 30th, 2011
10:07 am
no yellow teeth or black lung jokes yet though
How about half-black lung jokes?
Generation$crewed
September 30th, 2011
10:07 am
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:02 am
Either way,
you claimed that if he did what they said then good riddance.
How can you be against the death penalty and say if he did it then good riddance? Thats with a trial. It seems as if by saying good riddance you would be for him dying?
If you are against the death penalty how can you not be against death by predator drone attack?
I’m for predator drone attacks!
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 30th, 2011
10:08 am
Okay GLL, here it is for the last time:
Good Little Liberal
September 30th, 2011
8:40 am
…I’ve been an involved Republican since I was 16 …
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 30th, 2011
8:45 am
Wow an “involved Republican” today and not “this blog is my forray into politics”? Always entertaining to see the latest claims
Good Little Liberal
September 30th, 2011
8:56 am
Keep Up the Good Fight!
Expect to be confronted for your lies from now on, at least when I have the time.
Please produce where I ever said that “this blog is my forray into politics”. Put up or admit that you are lying again.
This blog is my foray (note the correct spelling of the word and try to learn) into blogging. I have donated money, worked for gubernatorial races, and been very active my entire life. You are going to stop this incessant lying.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 30th, 2011
9:01 am
easy enough, GLL, guess when you want to call someone a liar, you better be sure that they dont have the evidence. And if you want to confront someone about a spelling error, make sure it is not yours.
Good Little Liberal
September 20th, 2011
8:00 am
….I do my little films. I play my music. I make this pathetic amount of money. I try to be smart with what I buy and I pay my taxes. This blog is my forray [sic] into politics.
____________________
Do you also want me to put up your claims of being involved in a lot of political claims.? Or was that fiction too?
_______________________________
See, you demanded I prove you said it, I proved it and then you want to move the goal posts, squirt. I also proved that you try to proclaim this is your “foray” into politics at times and other times tell us about your extensive “political genius”. Now again, try to take the false bravado and confrontational style down a few notches, I won’t even demand an apology for the name calling, and lets see if you can keep it honest.
Btw, I do believe you are involved in Republican campaigns, the denial of facts when proven is a common Republican tactic.
getalife
September 30th, 2011
10:08 am
lil lib,
Lying is not cool.
But it is all you got.
Generation$crewed
September 30th, 2011
10:08 am
stands for decibels
September 30th, 2011
10:07 am
made me giggle! that was funny.
widh I had thought of it first!
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:08 am
GLL — “Cain is the nightmare for Democrats. He may not bring out that large of a Black vote, but all the nonsense about Republicans being racists is out the window and without that, the Dems lose a very large hammer.”
I don’t find him nightmarish at all. In fact, to Mr. Cain, I say bring it on.
Would you like to take me up on the wager I’ve offered several conservative posters here, GLL? I’ll help him get nominated — I’ll donate to Cain and vote for him in the primary. But if he *doesn’t* get the nomination, then you agree to vote for Obama in the general election.
If Cain gets the nomination — and I’ll even help towards that — then you’re out nothing. I even helped you get him onto the ticket. Win for you.
If he *doesn’t* get the nomination, then you vote for President Obama in the general election. Win for me.
How about it. Want in?
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:08 am
christie wont win the nomination, hes to liberal for the southern racist christian faction of the republican party
AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!
September 30th, 2011
10:08 am
Righty and rags,
Are you war weary cut and runners growing soft on our Holy Crusades?
Too funny.
Hootinanny Yum Yum
September 30th, 2011
10:08 am
Well, given his size, he will probably appeal to a majority of obese people in America today. And, I would be thrilled with a Christie/Cain ticket.
Increases the possibility that Cain will ultimately occupy the Oval Office.
ragnar danneskjold
September 30th, 2011
10:09 am
Dear USinUK @ 10:02, you cite an event outside my acquaintance: “HOWLS from the right similar to those when we arrested the pirates and decided to bring them to trial.” All I remember from “the right wing” is cheering for the Easter morning sharpshooter?
Strawman
September 30th, 2011
10:09 am
“Through that GOP permafog, it’s hard to see things, but that has already happened.”
Really? Then why did Obama propose an IMAC? The only place this matter isn’t unsettled in perhaps in your mind. BTW, do you read the Inquirer? Aliens have taken over the VA.
sam
September 30th, 2011
10:10 am
i am however a fan of mr christie. he’s a fiscal conservative that doesnt worry too much about the social agenda of fr right. he’s a straight shooter and a realist.
ragnar danneskjold
September 30th, 2011
10:10 am
Dear Joe @ 10:08, I’ll help Obama get the dem nomination if you will vote for Cain in the general election!
ty webb
September 30th, 2011
10:10 am
fat is the new “black”…you guys are all fatists…oh, and thank god we didn’t waterboard al-awlaki…all together now “Not in our name”!
larry
September 30th, 2011
10:10 am
And speaking of the death of Anwar al-Aulaqi, any dead AQ is a good AQ and the President has done more to AQ than the previous adminstration ever thought about doing.
I feel safer under Obama than i ever did under Bush. And none of the Repubs canidates could match the Presidents record on terrorism.
Mighty Righty
September 30th, 2011
10:11 am
Isn’t this just great. What a government.
This week Oregon officials bragged that the USDA has given the state $5 million in “performance bonuses” for ensuring that people eligible for food benefits receive them and for its “swift processing of applications.” The money comes on the heels of a separate $1.5 million award from the feds for making “accurate payments of food stamp benefits to clients.” So welfare recipients are clients? .
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:12 am
.@joe mama
CAIN wont be nominated by the racist christian republican party because hes black. all these whites saying they gonna vote for him are lying and they know it. Cain is just another blk conservative that makes white racists feel comfortable with their racism
Practical Matti
September 30th, 2011
10:12 am
I hate to encourage bad behavior (running for the R nomination), but I kinda like Chris Christie. He’s by far the most appealing Republican I’ve seen this year. Also, he’s kinda HOT, and I just don’t get the alleged appeal Rick Perry holds for the ladies. It’s true, CC totally needs to lose 100 pounds right this minute, and he would still be on the biggish side after that, but his brains and confidence are sexy.
Chris Rock breaks it down (language alert): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F43JU0N5DM
“I am sex-y. I am the sexiest emmer effer here. Yeah, I got a gut! There’s some good *bleep* under this gut!”
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:13 am
Generation – hey, did I say anything about HOW he was gone? no. just said good riddance THAT he was gone. keep clutching at them thar straws.
ragnar – go back and look at the right wing reaction to bringing them here for trial. it wasn’t pretty.
Generation$crewed
September 30th, 2011
10:13 am
larry
September 30th, 2011
10:10 am
I don’t know if Killing folks without trials or killing people at all is going to get to many votes from the presidents hard core elements of his base.
But he may choose to run his campaign as a war and execute presidnet but I doubt it.
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:13 am
K71 — “Cheeseburgers, weight jokes, endless ridiculous comments about Christie’s demeanor and his name….. he scares you, doesn’t he libs? Scares you to death. He scares you more than Romney, Perry or anyone else.”
A man who can’t control his own weight will have a tough time making the case that he should be entrusted with control of the country.
AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!
September 30th, 2011
10:13 am
Doesn’t Cain’s hyper-Islamophobia and telling blacks that they are brainwashed, play right into the GOP’s well-deserved bigoted reputation???
Newsflash.
Not all bigots and racists are white.
Granny Godzilla
September 30th, 2011
10:14 am
Charles and David Koch are fans of Christie, who secretly attended a gathering they hosted in June to deliver a speech on how Republicans need to take on the teachers union “once and for all.” According to Mother Jones, which posted audio of his remarks, David Koch introduced Christie as “my kind of guy” and a “true political hero.”
The article goes on about “in private with top donors at least, bluntly demands cuts to Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid to fix the deficit” and “He has little patience for the Tea Party’s wackier culture war fights, notably dismissing panic over sharia law as “crap.”
oh please oh please oh please
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:14 am
ty – 10:10 – I believe that would be “fattists” (or sizeists) – “fatists” would be the folks who believe that our future is predetermined.
I’m here to help.
stands for decibels
September 30th, 2011
10:14 am
A bit of advice I expect to be ignored, but here goes:
If you want to see as much merriment made at the expense of Chris Christie’s girth, by all means go out of your way to let people know you find such humor offensive.
in the meantime…
Increases the possibility that Cain will ultimately occupy the Oval Office.
particularly if Cain gets Christie on a two meat-lover’s-special-per-day diet.
Butch Cassidy
September 30th, 2011
10:14 am
Anyone catch Fox this morning? Brian Kilmeade seemed a little put out by the CIA operative they were interviewing when he actually spoke the truth about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. I guess someone forgot to give the interviewee the rules of interviewing beforehand.
Generation$crewed
September 30th, 2011
10:15 am
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:13 am
Dear I ain’t clutching at any straws. Just asking you about your own words in the context you typed them.
Sorry if it made you think too much about yourself.
But since he was killed, it would seem that we were talking about him being gone as in he was killed. How else would he be gone?
Spacemen?
Mighty Righty
September 30th, 2011
10:15 am
More Democrat corruption:
http://www.chron.com/news/article/AP-Investigation-Plant-deal-may-enrich-donors-2196106.php
getalife
September 30th, 2011
10:15 am
He will have to lose weight like gomer pyle and get a show on fox.
Generation$crewed
September 30th, 2011
10:16 am
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:13 am
Should a man who can’t control what he smokes into his lunges be entrusted with control of the country?
ty webb
September 30th, 2011
10:17 am
UsinUk,
thanks. I probably should’ve gone with “lard a**ists”.
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:17 am
@amvets
CAIN has to be more bigoted than the whites because he knows hes nothing but a STEPPIN FETCHIT for the repubs
larry
September 30th, 2011
10:18 am
@Generation- If he doesnt run at least 50% of his campaign on his killing and containment of AQ, then he needs some new advisors.
philosopher
September 30th, 2011
10:18 am
@ty webb: NO- we’re not buying that crap! Black and fat are not even comparable- Black is a color- fat is a condition and a sign of poor self-choices and lack of discipline… his is so bad it makes him a liability as a presidential candidate- address THOSE issues, or none- NOT TALKING ABOUT LOOKS!!
Ryder
September 30th, 2011
10:19 am
Marie
September 30th, 2011
8:47 am
@Ryder — is it just possible that the state of NJ was spending too much on schools? I am sick of this nonesense that we can never cut the amount we are spending on public education as if there is NEVER any waste, fraud and abuse in that area. Public school systems like any organization that relies on public funding needs to operate on a strict budget and not just spend money on a bunch of goodies because their is a belieft that taxpayers have an unending supply of money.
Are you suggesting teachers are paid too much?
Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil
September 30th, 2011
10:19 am
Christe could not run himself out of a paper bag. Lets tell the truth and shame the devil…. he has a health issue (obesity). Can we put our trust and faith in a man who is not healthy or has health issues.
stands for decibels
September 30th, 2011
10:19 am
According to Mother Jones, which posted audio of his remarks, David Koch introduced Christie as “my kind of guy” and a “true political hero.”
Again—like Scott Walker, Chris Christie actually likens the firing of PATCO workers with fighting Stalinism.
Hardly surprising that Christie would get a thumbs-up from America’s plutocracy.
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:20 am
ty – 10:17 –
generation – “How else would he be gone? ” – people can die from a RANGE of causes (see: Darwin Awards). Case in point: Jeffrey Dahmer being killed in prison. again. good riddance. does that mean that I’m advocating the gov’t killing him? no. just glad he’s gone.
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:20 am
woohoo! fresh sheets!
Short Term
September 30th, 2011
10:20 am
kayaker 71
September 30th, 2011
9:06 am
Mick,
You have such a short memory. Remember Nov, 2011? It’s not so long ago. Bozo called it a “shellacing”.
Ah, I remember Nov 2011 like it was yesterday. Those sure were the good ‘ol days.
ragnar danneskjold
September 30th, 2011
10:21 am
Dear USinUK @ 10:13, “go back and look at the right wing reaction to bringing them here for trial. it wasn’t pretty.” I cannot find anything remotely approaching criticism of the sharpshooting. In fact, the only critique I find is that the military-on-the-ground noted administration whining about the administration’s lack of credit for the work on the ground. freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2241284/posts
ty webb
September 30th, 2011
10:21 am
Philosopher,
what are these “choices” you speak of?…careful, that word doesn’t play well among Jay’s peanut gallery.
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:21 am
retired early — “If Christie manages to become Potus, the biggest concern should be who is going to be the VP. Since Christie does not appease the evangelicals, watch out for a religious nut to be his running mate… like Bachman.”
I’ve been saying this here most all summer long. If we get a moderate GOP nominee, look for them to select a wingnut running mate to appease the tea partiers.
Generation$crewed
September 30th, 2011
10:22 am
larry
September 30th, 2011
10:18 am
Agree it needs to be mentioned. Don’t know about 50%. Mentioning too much about ” terrorist” also opens the door for criticism about a campaign promise that through no fault of his own ahs not been held up and thats closing GITMO. He made the order but it still remains open and don’t know if he wants to open himself to that issue too much. again turning off the base, and he will need a large turnout again as he recived in 08. He is in trouble if he does not get that kind of turnout again.
Its not about democrats or thse who lean left voting republican. Obama’s big worry is they will not vote at all.
again just my opinion.
Practical Matti
September 30th, 2011
10:22 am
Granny G,
Christie is a Koch-sugger? Oh, noes! That diminishes a man’s attractiveness considerably!
Generation$crewed
September 30th, 2011
10:23 am
USinUK
September 30th, 2011
10:20 am
So you just want someone to kill him!
Quite vindictive of you.
larry
September 30th, 2011
10:24 am
Here’s all you need to know about Cain. When he announced he was running for President , he had a big pizza party afterwards. You know which pizza he served?
Godfathers ? Nope.
Little Cesars ? Nope.
He served Dominoes . Now it would look like to me that with him being President of Godfather’s pizza that he would serve what he sold for so many years. Instead , he went with Dominoes. For shame.
AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!
September 30th, 2011
10:24 am
Really? Then why did Obama propose an IMAC?
And how, pray tell, is that even remotely connected to your point – “it would be really refreshing to see a large group of health care workers, thinkers, engineers, analysts, researchers and the like getting together to hash out a truly reasonable, fair and practical solution to this problem”?
(Hint. It is not.)
Silly dodgeballers.
Increases the possibility that Cain will ultimately occupy the Oval Office.
Up to what?
1%?
UGA has a better chance of winning the NCAA football championship this year.
Hysterical.
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:25 am
H. Yum Yum — “Wouldn’t it be wrong to discriminate against obese and morbidly obese people? Is their obesity a choice, a disease or a genetic predisposition? If we’re going to be inclusive and non-discriminatory; shouldn’t we be, well, inclusive and non-discriminatory?”
If I don’t vote for Christie, then how, exactly, am I discriminating against him for being obese?
And kindly don’t bring up the ‘I can be against Obama and not be a racist’ counter-charge. I’ve never once played the anti-Obama = racist card here, and I never shall.
philosopher
September 30th, 2011
10:27 am
@ty webb: obesity is caused by choosing to consume more calories than you expend…by choosing to eat foods that are unhealthy, without regard to the consequences, over and over and over again…and choosing not to take the actions required to rectify the situation when it begins to take its toll.
ty webb
September 30th, 2011
10:27 am
Amvet,
you can call me a “bigot”,” hypocrite”, “racist”, “dumb” or even a “neocon”, but don’t you dare speak ill of my dawgs…That’s too much…have you no shame!
ty webb
September 30th, 2011
10:28 am
Philosopher,
agreed.
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:30 am
CHRISTIE does like his cheeseburgers!
tired of baloney
September 30th, 2011
10:32 am
Losing weight didn’t help Mike Huckaby get the nomination and get to DC. Just another excuse to judge ….
AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!
September 30th, 2011
10:33 am
Sorry, ty.
i just find them, well, rather over-hyped and under-whelming…
And then there is the fact, that even though I grew up in the Midwest, I was always a bit of a Georgia Tech fan.
But I did love watching Herschel play.
The only game in Athens I ever went to, I sat on the tracks all night to watch him and George Rogers battle it out.
Talk about some drunk football fans and good times!
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:34 am
G$ — “How can you type that you are not in favor of the dealth penalty but only 3 typed lines above that you claim good riddance as punishment for what his crimes were? Just seems to contradict one another? Also what if does not deter, then why were you for (good riddance)the death penalty being used in this case?”
I also oppose the death penalty, so I’d like to sound off on this.
I don’t think this was a question of a criminal charge (or charges), a prosecution culminating in a courtroom proceeding, then to be followed by imposition of a legal penalty. IMO, this was a matter of national defense, not a death penalty criminal case.
I don’t like the death penalty, but I was also completely comfortable with knowing that OBL had been killed. Why? Because he planned and directed 9/11. I also wouldn’t have been upset — had I been alive then — if we had snuck a SEAL/commando special ops team into Japan to off their military and political leaders during WWII. They planned and executed Pearl Harbor, and deaths happen in warfare.
If we had *caught* the guy, then I could see myself calling for prosecution and incarceration. But unless he wanted to turn himself in or we got very lucky, I didn’t see that happening. That leaves a drone attack, a SEAL/spec ops grab operation or a lucky hit in a bombing raid as the only way we were going to get him — and death’s pretty likely in most of those circumstances.
If terrorists don’t want to turn themselves in and take their chances with our legal system, then I also say good riddance if they get themselves blown up. OTOH, if they *do* turn themselves in, I’m opposed to the death penalty. I realize that may sound foolish to you, but it’s honestly where I stand.
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:34 am
Enter your comments here
SPANKED and not liking it
September 30th, 2011
10:34 am
It’s rare when you can look at a blog argument and say, “WOW, this one won, that one lost.” but today we’ve witnessed a major spanking.
Good Little Liberal…..you got spanked, owned, used, rode hard and put up wet.
Normally such gloating is not my thing but I come here day after day and by and large enjoy reading the comments. But there are a few nasty individuals out there who seem to have a common theme….bash, bash, name call, bash, flame, lie, name call then cry like victims when they get called out.
GLL is one of the worst of these characters. So today to watch him/her get PROVEN a liar, to be systematically taken apart was especially enjoyable. Made my day, maybe even my weekend.
No wonder you “ran off to work”. I’d hide too if I’d gotten owned that bad.
Practical Matti
September 30th, 2011
10:35 am
philosopher and ty webb,
It’s not always that simple. Brain chemistry is a powerful thing. Think about it: You are absolutely ravenous after a long, busy day without eating. You’re shaking and getting weak. You sit down to a meal and gobble it up, perhaps even too quickly. Twenty minutes later, your blood sugar is back to normal, your mood has improved, and your stomach feels full, maybe even too full.
Now imagine the same scenario, except no matter how much you eat, you don’t FEEL any better. Your blood sugar and mood do not rise. You’re still shaky and weak. The sense of being sated, NEVER comes. You keep trying. It doesn’t happen. The brain does not respond with “Okay, we’re good now!”
That’s what they deal with every day. They suffer more than we can comprehend. Should they give up trying to remedy the problem? Of course not! But it’s not simply a “character” issue. It’s a chemistry issue.
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:35 am
@amvets
if HERSCHEL played today he wouldnt be as great. back then he as bigger than linebackers. in todays game the players are bigger and quicker
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:38 am
Righty — “Funny how liberals oppose poring water on someones face but tracking them down and blowing them up with rockets as they peacefully drive down the street is okay. Weird.”
We *prosecuted* people for war crimes for engaging in waterboarding. We signed international agreements forbidding it. And then we went ahead and did it anyway.
I’m not aware of us having signed any agreements not to engage in warfare or to attack valid military targets when we figure out where they are.
Spot the difference.
Hootinanny Yum Yum
September 30th, 2011
10:40 am
Joe Mama writes, “A man who can’t control his own weight will have a tough time making the case that he should be entrusted with control of the country.”
A man who couldn’t control his sexual appetite had no problem making the case that he should be entrusted with control of the country.
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:40 am
R. Danneskjold — “Dear Joe @ 10:08, I’ll help Obama get the dem nomination if you will vote for Cain in the general election!”
Considering that Obama will already receive it, your help is not needed.
BTW, there’s a poser of a question for you on a recent thread:
http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/09/29/romney-individual-mandate-seen-as-conservative-idea/?cp=6#comment-739241
Talking Head
September 30th, 2011
10:41 am
whether or not Christie decides to run, one thing is clear…Obama is one and done!
AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!
September 30th, 2011
10:41 am
Perhaps, librallefty.
But I’m not dissuaded from commenting on jaw-dropping talent when I see it. Regardless of the uniform.
It’s like saying Ndamakung Suh would struggle thirty years from now, when O linemen all weighed 400 pounds and ran 4.5s…
philosopher
September 30th, 2011
10:41 am
@Practical Matti : eating habits yopu describe are unhealthy …and again, chosen. A physical exam and a discussion with your doctor will provide the cause of those symptoms and instructions on how to make the food choices that will not leave you feeling that way. We are not helpless or slaves to our cravings.
ty webb
September 30th, 2011
10:42 am
Amvet,
yeah, I remember that george rogers/herschel walker showdown…herschel completely dominated.
Liberallefty,
sorry, but herschel would dominate just as much today… his combination of size and speed have been unequaled since….the same could also be said of Bo Jackson…they broke the mold after those two.
iTiSi
September 30th, 2011
10:42 am
Rick Perry is “kaput” as most Independent Conservatives will NOT vote for him because of his record and position on illegal immigrants. Most are now considering him George W Bush, Jr. He will soon be out of the race for good. Also, Mr. Christie may as well not even enter. Based on previous statements he is “soft” on illegal immigration too. He said not long ago that “he did not consider illegal immigrants criminals”. That tells me a lot right there. Herman Cain is what this country needs right now. As an Independent Conservative in the “reddest city in the reddest state” (Aiken, SC) I would vote for him in a GA second!
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:42 am
G$ — “Should a man who can’t control what he smokes into his lunges be entrusted with control of the country?”
Are you saying that President Obama is smoking again?
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:44 am
@amvets
yes HERSCHEL was a once in a generation talent.
Thogwummpy
September 30th, 2011
10:44 am
If Christie ran…with Herman Cain as his running mate—-the election would a mere formality; and Obama would be playing golf full time in 2013.
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:46 am
H. Yum Yum — “A man who couldn’t control his sexual appetite had no problem making the case that he should be entrusted with control of the country.”
And so did a smoker. Shrug.
Your reply in no way diminishes the accuracy and pertinence of my statement; a man who cannot control his weight will have a hard time convicing the electorate to give him control over the country.
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:46 am
@ty
u must remember that players are bigger today. Herschel was big and fast for his time but in todays game with the same talent he will only be good not great. back then he was bigger than linebackers, if he went up against ALA or LSU caliber defenses of today he wouldnt dominate.
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:47 am
@thogwompy
sorry but the racist repubs wont have CAIN on the ticket
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:49 am
joemama
what will CHRISTIE be doing when he gets that phone call at 3 in the morning? he’ll be raiding the fridge for leftovers!
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:50 am
@iTiSi
CAIN wont be nominated because no real conservative will vote for a black man.
Joe Mama
September 30th, 2011
10:51 am
liberallefty — “what will CHRISTIE be doing when he gets that phone call at 3 in the morning? he’ll be raiding the fridge for leftovers!”
That’s funny (and pretty harsh), but I’m not going to go there with you.
Talking Head
September 30th, 2011
10:53 am
liberalefty,
OMG..you mean Cain is black?! Dang, and I was going to vote for him!
Practical Matti
September 30th, 2011
10:56 am
@ philospher,
I’m not saying we’re helpless slaves to our cravings, nor am I saying personal responsibility is not a issue. Did you even READ what I wrote? I merely noted that there are factors in play that make sitting down to a reasonably-portioned meal a very different experience for an obese person than for you or me. If brain chemistry is not a powerful factor in pretty much everything, then why is half the country taking (addicted to) SSRI’s every day?
The food industry hires chemists to design processed American crap food to be addictive. It is LITERALLY designed to trigger the brain to want more. Furthermore (as I researched in my own efforts to take personal responsibility for my health), fat cells emit chemicals that trigger the craving for more fat and sugar. Hence, the more fat cells a person has, the more food their brain tells them they need. It’s a vicious cycle that makes the obese person’s struggle DIFFERENT from yours. Yippee for you if you’ve never fallen captive to any kind of addiction, but if that’s the case, then you are really not in a position to judge how addiction affects another person’s brain.
BOB
September 30th, 2011
10:59 am
bank of america – you’re fired!!
Lib in Cobb
September 30th, 2011
11:00 am
Christie has stated multiple times he is not ready. He may be ready, but, he has not lost the desired weight he said he would shed. The weight problem is an issue. It is an issue because anyone who weighs 300 pounds, perhaps more, does not have the stamina needed for the campaign trail, nor does that person have the stamina for the Office of President. Christie does not have the support of his family, another issue, in addition to the weight. If Christie does join the race and if he is nominated, the choice of a running mate is more crucial for the GOP than ever before. The GOP shot themselves in the foot with the choice of Palin for the 2008 campaign. Christie’s obesity could cause his death or significant incapacitation due to stroke or heart attack, requiring the VP to step in. The Republican party has to look at the VP choice very carefully and not think about winning the female vote by appointing another knucklehead. If they want a female, that would be fine, but, it must be someone with the proper qualifications. As we all know now, Palin was a very bad choice and she did not help the GOP effort at all.
St Simons - we're on Island time
September 30th, 2011
11:07 am
Keep & Granny, let a CPA recommend some title insurance.
I hear your balance sheets increased. Ownership will do that.
Even
September 30th, 2011
11:09 am
My guess you won’t hear much from the WH about this Securities Industry Association representation by Christies former firm as the former firm of both Obamas (Sidley Austin) represents the SIFMA.
Short Term
September 30th, 2011
11:11 am
Hootinanny Yum Yum
September 30th, 2011
9:58 am
If it’s wrong to discriminate against gay, lesbian and transgender individuals. Wouldn’t it be wrong to discriminate against obese and morbidly obese people? Is their obesity a choice, a disease or a genetic predisposition?
Will jogging or exercise make a gay person straight? Perhaps only at the Bachmann Family Treatment Center…..
clouds
September 30th, 2011
11:15 am
just what we need another idiot sympathizer
philosopher
September 30th, 2011
11:15 am
@Practical Matti : As a healthcare professional and someone who has “fallen captive” to food addiction, I have first hand knowledge AND experience. It takes self-discipline and a sense of responsibility to one’s self and one’s loved ones ( so that they don’t ALSO pay for my lack of self-control, poor choices, and poor decisions) to stop repeating self-destructive actions…and I expect a candidate for president to be able to do no less.
Paulo977
September 30th, 2011
11:18 am
liberalefty
September 30th, 2011
10:08 am
“christie wont win the nomination, hes to liberal for the southern racist christian faction of the republican party”
From what I have been able to gather about him, I agree!!!