The flat-out paranoia of the NRA and Wayne LaPierre
Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, gave me a call at home the other day. In the taped message, my friend Wayne warned me that unless I and other patriotic Americans stepped forward to stop it, the dastardly United Nations, with Iran, China, North Korea and other evil countries behind it, would soon come into our country and into our very homes, strip the Second Amendment out of the Constitution and “take away every pistol, and rifle and shotgun” that we owned.
Riiiggghhht. I just have one question though:
How is the UN going to accomplish this? Are they going to import little bulbous-headed men from Mars toting rayguns to take away our weapons? If so, I’m clinging to my copy of Slim Whitman singing “Indian Love Call” and you can’t have it until you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Nosireebob.
Look, I recognize that the boundary between serious and seriously crazy has shifted considerably in recent years. But doesn’t this kind of nonsense still qualify on the fully crazy side of the ledger?
The ostensible cause of LaPierre’s hysteria is something called the International Arms Trade Treaty. If ratified by the United Nations and then by the U.S. Senate, it would require countries exporting conventional arms to certify that the weapons aren’t being sent to a terrorist or organized crime group, such as Hezbollah, and that they aren’t being sent to a nation conducting genocide or to a nation under a U.N. arms embargo, such as Iran and North Korea.
It would have no effect whatsoever on domestic ownership, possession or purchase of firearms. Such a claim is politically, practically, legally and constitutionally absurd. So why is Wayne LaPierre calling me and others to pretend otherwise?
Money is part of the reason. The United States accounts for 40 percent of the world’s exports of conventional arms, and the U.S. arms industry is nervous about legislation that might curtail their right to sell arms to whomever they wish. Those manufacturers, not coincidentally, are also heavy donors to the NRA, which is trying to whip up hysteria on their behalf.
In addition, such hysteria is part of the NRA’s own strategy for raising money for its coffers. Once the LaPierre robo-rant about the UN finished, for example, an operator quickly came on line to ask me to donate money to the NRA. I politely declined.
Finally, it’s also a matter of increasingly delusional paranoia infecting the NRA. Prior to the ‘08 election, the gun group warned its members that Barack Obama had a secret 10-point plan to end gun ownership in this country.
Point One was a federal ban on the use of guns for home defense. Point Three was a ban on the sale, manufacture and possession of handguns. Point Four was the closure of 90 percent of American gunshops. Federal taxes on guns and ammunition were supposed to go up 500 percent, and the sale of ammunition for hunting rifles was supposed to be banned altogether.
As you may recall, that bit of hysteria touched off quite a spree of gun-buying after the election, boosting the profits of the NRA’s sponsors in the gun industry. In fact, as ammunition disappeared from store shelves, that itself was quickly cited as evidence that ammo confiscation was already underway. The NRA, in other words, played its own members for patsies.
Today, three years later, none of that has come to pass. Obama has made no effort whatsoever to alter the nation’s gun laws. So, given their hyperbolic claims, you might think that would make LaPierre and others a little embarrassed, right? It’s like when evangelist Harold Camping predicted that the world would end on May 21. When he woke up May 22, you just know he felt at least a wee bit sheepish about it, right?
Well, no. Camping did no such thing, because you see, Camping is crazy. Instead of apologizing, he announced that May 21 had merely been the day of spiritual judgment, and that God was really coming to destroy the universe on Oct. 21, 2011. And that’s exactly the course that LaPierre and the NRA are taking.
In a speech at a conservative conference in Florida this month, LaPierre explained that by taking no action to implement his alleged 10-point program, Obama had actually proved that the NRA had been right all along.
You see, “before the president was even sworn into office, they met and hatched a conspiracy of public deception to guarantee his re-election in 2012″ by just PRETENDING not to seize guns. The failure to act “is all part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment.”
“We see the president’s strategy crystal clear. Get re-elected and, with no more elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearms freedom. Erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and exorcise it from the U.S. Constitution….
President Obama and his cohorts — yeah, they’re going to deny their conspiracy to fool gun owners. Some of the liberal media are probably already blogging about it. But we don’t care because as far as we’re concerned, that lying, conniving Obama crowd can kiss our Constitution!”
The fact that such people have considerable influence over our nation’s policies — for example, 45 senators have signed a letter condemning the arms trade treaty, including the two from Georgia — does not speak well of us.
– Jay Bookman
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Joe COOL
September 27th, 2011
4:19 pm
“What’s funny is people living in trailers owning guns cause people might want to take their ….umm….trailer? Or some of their other extravagant stuff like jewels and furs and precious collectibles like the salt and pepper shaker collection (OH MY!)…”
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:20 pm
D. DoRight — “What does UDT mean?”
Underwater demolitions. I’m pretty sure women aren’t allowed.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2011
4:20 pm
I thought UDT was Underage Drunken Teen…but I am probably wrong
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:20 pm
UDT – Underwater Demolition Team – now known as SEALs. Re: Johnny and Saxby, I believe they intriduced legislation which allows Americans to posess firearms on Federal land (national forests & parks). Actually, not a bad law, but I carry all the time in the wilderness anyway
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
4:21 pm
Joe – They probably were planning to hold whoever adopted them hostage if they were adopted out together. I would have risked it.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
4:22 pm
DebbieDo,What does UDT mean?…Underwater Demolition Team. They’ve since evolved into SEALS and will also operate on land. It used to be a cadence chant on road runs. Semper Fi
1811/0311
September 27th, 2011
4:23 pm
Headline: “Iran says could deploy navy near U.S. coast: report”
Where’s McHale’s Navy when we need them ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8E8trKZGbE
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:24 pm
before that, they were referred to as “frogmen”. ribbet
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
4:24 pm
Debbiedoright,
UDT is underwater demolition team which is part of SEALS training. Don’t know bout your pit bulls but I’ve seen the mean type but a lot of friendly ones lately. Wussiest dog I know is a large pit bull- wouldn’t hurt a flea. I also was jogging a few weeks ago and I saw a pit bull that was running full gallup towards me as he had escaped his yard. You cannot imagine the relief I had when I saw his tail wagging as he was sprinting toward me. He was out to love me to death as opposed to a good mauling.
One other thing. You may have to forget about razzing brocephus on the crimson tide until the national championship game on Nov. 5th. That’s about the only serious test I see the Tide having between now and another bcs title.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2011
4:25 pm
Joe, please…. Frogperson.
1811/0311
September 27th, 2011
4:27 pm
Well, well …………… what have we here ?
“SENATE DEMS ON OBAMA JOB BILL: VACATION FIRST… ”
“President Obama still is pressing Congress to pass his jobs stimulus bill immediately, but his own party leaders in the Senate, where Democrats have a majority, have pushed that vote off yet again.”
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
4:27 pm
Joe Cool at 4:19. LOL? Only if you think bigotry towards a particular group is ok. Apparently with you it is.
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:28 pm
UDT
I thought it was United Daughters of the Taliban…
out of the blue
September 27th, 2011
4:28 pm
Finn McCool
September 27th, 2011
4:07 pm
…and that precious black light poster collection….
Finn, Do you know where I can git me one of those velvet paintings depicting Elvis? It would sure as hell spruce up my my fake wood paneled living room!
Jay
September 27th, 2011
4:29 pm
Thulsa, all I can say is, in my now 30 years in this business, I have never seen a lobby more powerful than the NRA. It’s not even close.
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
4:29 pm
Thulsa – I think LSU has to convince the talking heads that they’re not worthy before Bama has it locked up. At least going off the rankings for this week.
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:29 pm
that’s right, I forget anout Demi Moore
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:31 pm
Thulsa
Swipe somebody from the projects, you’re a Sh*t…
Swipe somebody from the trailer park,you’re a Wit…
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
4:32 pm
“Thulsa, all I can say is, in my now 30 years in this business, I have never seen a lobby more powerful than the NRA. It’s not even close.”
Oh please Jay have you somehow lost moveon.org? They hold the Dem party in the palm of their hand.
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:32 pm
Jay, really? if the NRA is so powerful, why are gun owners so affraid? as I said, I think the NRA is a “powerful” fundraiser, but like the government itself, it becomes a bureacracy (beast) that exists to exist. it is a theology of sorts or dogmatic enterprise that relies on fear. and as noted, when if the state wants to take our guns, it will take our guns (becuase the military has bigger guns).
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:32 pm
Blue
Et tu, Brute?
Steve - USA
September 27th, 2011
4:32 pm
Jay@4:29
That’s interesting, care to expand on that thought? What makes them so effective?
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
4:33 pm
JoeM: Gluhwein,* perhaps? Quite literally, ‘glow-wine,’ because it makes you glow?
Correct again! You’re good!
you’re an Auburn grad
Actually I’m not! My husband, Dudley, graduated from Auburn – I graduated from Spelman (an all girls’ school). I’m what you call a hanger on fan, and Auburn isn’t the only SEC team I cheer for. My sister-in-law is a GT grad, and my nephew is now enrolled in Georgia and my cousin graduated from Florida. I LOVED visiting Gainesville back in the day!! I like Miami because my favorite Aunt lives in Miami and I just LOVE LSU because of the fans!! They have some of the nicest fans in the WORLD!! If you ever get a chance, try hanging out with some during a tailigate party!
I highly recommend pork loin chops Marsala in the fall.
Thanks! gotta try that!
(ir)Rational: Her name was Meredith Emerson. The victims should always be remembered instead of the asses. I agree with whoever it was that said you should get something more reliable in that regard. Don’t set yourself up to be a victim.
You’re right. Thank you for reminding me of her. She was a martial arts instructor but in the end if she would’ve had a more “vicious” dog she probably would’ve been alive today. Sometimes your skills alone can’t save you. Having grown up the “baby” of the family I always had someone to look out for me. When I moved here, I moved here with no family or friends and had to learn the hard way to always take care of myself or as that fighter said the other night, “Never let down your guard”.
josef: Debbie–I’m glad you’re my friend…but any woman living alone who doesn’t know those things and have a gun might want to rethink…
Hey josef!!
You’d be surprised how many women think that a gun alone is all they need for protection! I try to tell them that unless you’re going to walk around with your gun on your person at all times,even in the shower, you’d better have a Plan B.
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:35 pm
Steve
Don’t know what Jay’s answer may be, but..(1) they got shekels and (2) they vote
Jack
September 27th, 2011
4:35 pm
I think I need to keep my gun permit secret so as not to upset Bookman.
out of the blue
September 27th, 2011
4:36 pm
And here comes scout with more of his nonsense…..
““SENATE DEMS ON OBAMA JOB BILL: VACATION FIRST… ”
I do believe the democratic led senate was in session Monday and Tuesday, but the republican controlled congress has taken the entire week off!
Scout … I don’t think anyone on this blog is as decietful and dishonest with their headlines then you!
Jay
September 27th, 2011
4:37 pm
Recon, that’s the funniest thing I’ve seen posted here in days. Truly.
Steve - USA
September 27th, 2011
4:38 pm
josef – I have to admit I had to look shekels up.
Thanks
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:38 pm
DDR
That’s what we taught our kids…and, like you, I’m 95% pacifist and raised the kids to be that. It’s that 5% that’s the difference between which of the two of us walks out of there if you want to go there…
GT VET
September 27th, 2011
4:38 pm
Jay,of course the calls were about getting money.How long did it take you to figure that one out???And again your right on the call of,Ammo prices didnt rise 500% when H. took office,but they did go up 35%.I personally havent recieved a call from NRA about this matter(guess their mad at me for resigning my membership)but I have recieved many calls from Democrates wanting money.You would think the Dems would have enough money from all the union dues they get.Your also right that NO WAY the Liberals want everyones guns.Thats why there is over one thousand laws on the books( restricting law abiding citizens) and we have those fine Georgia Dems who introduce bills like putting serial numbers on every round of ammo..LOL..Good Lord…Do I think my guns will be taken from me? No,not in my lifetime.But I do think we should ban bicycles for they are 100 times more likely to kill a child than a gun is.Dont ya hate those darn statistics??In closing,Jay,I think now of all troubling things in this world you could Rant about you choose the NRA.Dude, people will think your a liberal,and hate guns,and hate conservatives,and hate Christians,and hate anything or anyone that has a diffrent opinion than you have…………
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:39 pm
Recon — “Oh please Jay have you somehow lost moveon.org? They hold the Dem party in the palm of their hand.”
Ridiculous.
Why do you think the liberal base is upset about Obama giving in so readily to Republican demands? Because moveon.org TOLD him to give in?
GMAMFB.
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:40 pm
JACK
I’m not sure, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprized that the Imam is a gun owner…he’s an outdoorsman and from a career military family…
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:40 pm
Debbie, with all due respect, there were a number of factors that contributed to Merrideth Emerson’s death. crime is about motive, oportunity, and capacity. dogs are “designed” to hunt in packs. there are very few breeds that can take down an adult male human. would a German Shepherd or Rottweiler, bought her some time, or created a distraction; perhaps? but this is all speculation. and as a martial arts instructor once told me; you can be Bruce Lee, but if somebody hits you in the head with a beer bottle or cue stick, you’re probably going down.
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
4:41 pm
creeped my wife out. She said they looked like they were mobbed up (Yakuza gang?) and would hold us hostage until we came across with treats and squeaky toys.
Ha!
AmVet
September 27th, 2011
4:42 pm
“What makes them so effective?”
$7,200,000.00 for the 2010 election alone?
Just a piece of it’s $35,000,000.00 lobbying machine…
Steve Hodges
September 27th, 2011
4:43 pm
U.N. = Trojan Horse
Libs = Jockey
___ = Stable Boy
***********************
U.N. Agreement Should Have All Gun Owners Up In Arms
“It may not come as surprising news to many of you that the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment. Not one bit. And they very much hope to do something about it with help from some powerful American friends. Under the guise of a proposed global “Small Arms Treaty” premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates” you can be quite certain that an even more insidious threat is being targeted – our Constitutional right for law-abiding citizens to own and bear arms.
What, exactly, does the intended agreement entail?”…Do we have to pass it to find out what’s in it?
…”Although professing to support the Second Amendment during her presidential election bid, Hillary Clinton is not generally known as a gun rights enthusiast. She has been a long-time activist for federal firearms licensing and registration, and a vigorous opponent of state Right-to-Carry laws. As a New York senator she ranked among the National Rifle Association’s worst “F”-rated gun banners who voted to support the sort of gunpoint disarmament that marked New Orleans’ rogue police actions against law-abiding gun owners in the anarchistic aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
President Obama’s record on citizen gun rights doesn’t reflect much advocacy either. Consider for example his appointment of anti-gun rights former Seattle Mayor Greg Nickels as an alternate U.S. representative to the U.N., and his choice of Andrew Traver who has worked to terminate civilian ownership of so-called “assault rifles” (another prejudicially meaningless gun term) to head the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
Then, in a move unprecedented in American history, the Obama administration quietly banned the re-importation and sale of 850,000 collectable antique U.S.-manufactured M1 Garand and Carbine rifles that were left in South Korea following the Korean War. Developed in the 1930s, the venerable M1 Garand carried the U.S. through World War II, seeing action in every major battle.
As an Illinois state senator, Barack Obama was an aggressive advocate for expanding gun control laws, and even voted against legislation giving gun owners an affirmative defense when they use firearms to defend themselves and their families against home invaders and burglars. He also served on a 10-member board of directors of the radically activist anti-gun Joyce Foundation in Chicago during a period between 1998-2001when it contributed $18,326,183 in grants to anti-Second Amendment organizations“…
http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2011/06/07/u-n-agreement-should-have-all-gun-owners-up-in-arms/
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
4:43 pm
Joe – A Shepherd or Rottweiler might not have been able to take someone down by themselves, but there is a strong possibility (going off the opportunity bit) that she wouldn’t have been attacked if she were hiking with a Shepherd, Rotti or Pit. The odds are stacked too high against the attacker walking away unharmed. Even so, if the dog distracts the attacker, if you know what you’re doing, you’re either gone or joining the dog in the attack.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
4:44 pm
“Recon, that’s the funniest thing I’ve seen posted here in days. Truly.”
Jay, it’s funny that I didn’t include the unions.
Matti Git Yer Gun
September 27th, 2011
4:44 pm
Recon,
MoveOn in the same league as the NRA? Nobody believes that! Not even you.
But it does speak well of you as a loyal member, that you are now trying to diffuse and deflect the FACT that they’re calling people in their homes at dinner time, selling big fat stupid LIES and begging for money. I hope they send you a free sticker for your valiant effort today.
Trotsky Foxtrot
September 27th, 2011
4:45 pm
Recon: “Oh please Jay have you somehow lost moveon.org? They hold the Dem party in the palm of their hand.”
Bwahahahahahahahaha.
Bwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaahahahahah.
You get the idea.
Paul
September 27th, 2011
4:47 pm
Can’t blame LaPierre one bit.
It takes a whole lot of donations to equal his million-dollar compensation package.
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:47 pm
D. DoRight — “You’d be surprised how many women think that a gun alone is all they need for protection!”
Protection? Stick around, I’ve got something for you. (laughing)
Jay — “Recon, that’s the funniest thing I’ve seen posted here in days. Truly.”
I got your funny right here, Jay. And it’s not even dirty, although the V-word appears on the page. Check this out:
http://www.ubykotex.com.au/our-advertising/
There are five ads in there, and my wife thought they were AWESOME.
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:48 pm
Dogs?
I’ll tangle with an al Qaaeda terrorist before I’ll cross a Chihuahua…meanest and nasiest tempered l’il buggers I’ve ever run across…
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
4:49 pm
“Why do you think the liberal base is upset about Obama giving in so readily to Republican demands? Because moveon.org TOLD him to give in?”
Joe, sorry but not even a good try.
Steve Hodges
September 27th, 2011
4:49 pm
“I remember my father saying “some guns are made for hunting, other are made for killing.” No one is looking to limit the number of hunting guns anyone owns.”
*****
But sometimes you might need a killing gun to hunt down a killer.
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
4:49 pm
josef – Yeah, that’s why they’re so small. Otherwise, people wouldn’t be safe anywhere.
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:52 pm
(ir)Rational, as I said, it’s all speculation. here’s what I do know. I have raised two pit bulls, neither could kill an adult male homo sapien (alone). the breed has a PR problem, as most of the “pitbull” attacks involve Heinz 57 mutts, with “bully breed” ancestors (among others), and most involve children, or two or three dogs attacking. . number dos; my pet (fox terrier) was attacked by a huge German shepherd when I was 12 or 13 and I beat the p*ss out of the shepherd with a stick (it did bite my hand), but I had it yelping like a b*tch. three I have a good friend who was a dog handler in the Army; a trained Rotweiler, shepherd or Akita is a completed different story, but John Q. Public doesn’t have access to such animals. I do agree that criminals stalk their prey, and perhaps the predator who attacked her might have considered the breed, but labs can be as viscious as any dog (I have a nice scar on my hand from breaking up a fight between my friend’s Lab and a feral dog). I’m just saying that all this talk about protection and insurance is ‘what if” stuff. some people get attacked and survive, others do not. it’s as random as life itself.
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:53 pm
Recon — “Joe, sorry but not even a good try.”
Sorry, Recon, but *your* try wasn’t even good. Not much need to debunk something that was so obviously full of bullspit from the get-go.
Steve Hodges
September 27th, 2011
4:53 pm
“What’s funny is people living in trailers owning guns cause people might want to take their ….umm….trailer? Or some of their other extravagant stuff like jewels and furs and precious collectibles like the salt and pepper shaker collection (OH MY!)…”
*****
There is always that outside chance that your maligned trailer dweller values their life to the exclusion of your measure of their wealth and achievment. Not all invasion murders involve thefts.
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:53 pm
What if you give money to move on and the NRA?
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:55 pm
josef, you have WAY too much money….
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:56 pm
josef — “What if you give money to move on and the NRA?”
Then Recon’s head asplodes.
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
4:56 pm
Doom: One other thing. You may have to forget about razzing brocephus on the crimson tide until the national championship game on Nov. 5th. That’s about the only serious test I see the Tide having between now and another bcs title.
I will never, or as Scarlett would say, “As God Is My Witness I Will NEVAH…” stop harassing SoCoBro!! For some reason, I identify him with my brothers, (the spawns of satan). Besides if I did stop bothering him, he’d feel hurt and lonely and thin I didn’t like him anymore…… That’s my story and I’m sticking to it!!
As for Bama – they still have to get through Florida in the Swamp and LSU; and if there’s one thing I’ve learned about the SEC not ONE of them is going to bow down and bend over for the greater good for another. Now don’t get me wrong, they’ll stick together, AFTER they whip up on you. They’re like family, they can talk about you but no one else can.
josef: It’s that 5% that’s the difference between which of the two of us walks out of there if you want to go there…
Amen brother, Amen.
Joe T.P.: there are very few breeds that can take down an adult male human. would a German Shepherd or Rottweiler, bought her some time, or created a distraction; perhaps?
Big dogs like Shepherds are a BIG deterrent and they can and hvae taken down adult males. Shepherds work with law enforcement and are valuable members of the team. Could a more vicious dog have bought her some time or have even protected her when she was knocked unconcious? I think so. I also think he (the killer) probably would not have approached her if she would’ve had a more vicious dog by her side. He approached her because she looked susceptible and “weak”. He had made sure that her dog was friendly and approachable FIRST before he attacked her. I think, IMO, a dog trained to defend it’s owner (or have a more aggressive personality), could’ve probably saved her life.
But, I am also of opinion of “Sometimes It’s just your time”; and if that was the case with Ms. Emerson than nothing, short of God, could’ve saved her.
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:57 pm
hey JB, is nosireebob an American word? it sounds Islamic to me
Steve Hodges
September 27th, 2011
4:57 pm
“What if you give money to move on and the NRA?”
*****
You have less money?
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
4:57 pm
josef @ 4:31,
Indeed. I just find it ironical that some in the politically correct crowd think its funny to single out and make bigoted comments towards one group of folks. Never did understand that logic or rather lack thereof. I reckon some peoples aren’t as equal as other peoples in their eyes.
Paul
September 27th, 2011
4:58 pm
josef
You’re and equal opportunity paranoid?
Boris Badnoff
September 27th, 2011
4:59 pm
Most of the newer state of the art recorders have exotic features such as delete aka erase aka trash can. Certainly when Ralph Nader left a message on my recorder requesting that I vote for Cynthia McKinney I nearly dislocated my wrist deleting it. Am not a gun nut. Guns make loud noises and I’d rather save my ears for Wagner and listening to Phil Kent. But considering how corrupt the current gang of crooks in the White House are it my be reality rather than paranoia. My greatest fear is that Jay Bookman will break into my house and blog about school vouchers and mass transit.
AmVet
September 27th, 2011
4:59 pm
I have no way of knowing, but I suspect that the Uppity Muslim is gonna crank up the con punking machine big time before long.
Along the lines of playing them like cheap fiddles over the birth certificate “rhubarb” and the awesome punking of the soft-on-terror cons by killing OBL,
I’m guessing his handlers will be shrewd enough to let him finally start giving some of the faux conservatives the political bloody noses they have been begging for since day one of his presidency.
And in the runup to the 2012 election, once that scrawny mulatto starts body slamming them and giving them some flying body souffles, the right wing crybaby factor is really gonna go off the charts.
I can just see Pretty Boy Sean now. His mascara is gonna be running…
out of the blue
September 27th, 2011
5:01 pm
I would rather (which I do) donate to The World Wildlife Federation and Defenders of Wildlife then the NRA or Moveon……But, I have to confess I do throw a wee amount of money to moveon!
josef
September 27th, 2011
5:02 pm
THULSA
And they sure don’t like it when you call them out on it, either…
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
5:02 pm
JoeM at 4:47 – You. Are. So. Bad. Funny. But. BAAADDDD.
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
5:03 pm
DDR, see above. The dogs that work for the DoD or or the PD are trained and rarely “operate” without their specific handler. In fact, the practice used to be to put the dog down if the handler got KIA. again, would the guy have looked elsewhere had she a Rottweiler? maybe, but that is more speculation than anything. and just because he “confesed” to ‘checking out the dog’ first doesn’t mean it happened, or that had she not felt threatened, a Rotweiler or shepherd would have reacted differently. I will not speak ill of the dead, but another homo sapien companion is actually the best deterent. and this is my point; all this talk of “protection” is something of a myth, and what groups like the NRA rely upon to scare (drive) voters to the left or the right.
josef
September 27th, 2011
5:04 pm
PAUL
“You’re and equal opportunity paranoid?”
Yeah! That’s the ticket…EOI-EOP
Anton
September 27th, 2011
5:04 pm
How is it paranoia when firearms rights have been under attack for the past 200 years? Every firearms law made is an infringement of the 2nd amendment and they only hurt the good guys, the bad guys don’t obey laws.
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
5:06 pm
D. DoRight — “JoeM at 4:47 – You. Are. So. Bad. Funny. But. BAAADDDD.”
Only the Australians would put a beaver puppet in feminine hygiene ads.
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
5:06 pm
Jay
September 27th, 2011
4:29 pm
Thulsa, all I can say is, in my now 30 years in this business, I have never seen a lobby more powerful than the NRA. It’s not even close.
Jay,
And you would be wrong. Very wrong according to the Forbes list of most powerful lobbys. It was bad enough to say that the NRA is the most powerful lobby but its doubly bad that you stated that no one else is even close. Huh? Not only is the NRA not only not the most powerful but its not even in the top 5.
Did you really think they would be more powerful than the Israeli lobby, the seniors-AARP, the Trial lawyers and their mega billions in lawsuits, etc.?
Fortune polled members of Congress, top congressional staffers, senior White House aides, top officers of lobbying organizations and professional lobbyists, asking them to rank the clout of 120 leading interest groups. The American Association of Retired Persons got top ranking in the Fortune survey, which was conducted this fall by Democratic pollster Mark Mellman and Republican pollster Bill McInturff.
After AIPAC, the AFL-CIO, the National Federation of Independent Business and the Association of Trial Lawyers of America rounded out the top five.
The National Rifle Association, the Christian Coalition, the American Medical Association, the National Education Association and the National Right to Life Committee completed the top 10 list.
http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/971128/aipac.shtml
josef
September 27th, 2011
5:06 pm
BORIS
” My greatest fear is that Jay Bookman will break into my house and blog about school vouchers and mass transit.”
I don’t care who you are, thass funny!
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
5:07 pm
Hey Paul I’m wondering what do you think about Texas A&M joining the SEC? I was over on ESPN’s blog, (also AJC has a similiar blog about it today), yesterday and the Texas fans were sooo RUDE!! You’d think that A&M owed them money or something how they were carrying on! Is this a pervasive sentiment in Texas, (Good Riddance to A&M); or was it just blog macho talk?
Matti Git Yer Gun
September 27th, 2011
5:07 pm
I love my vicious killer pit mix! Much more trustworthy than any human I ever met, but sometimes a little stinky after dinner.
Steve Hodges
September 27th, 2011
5:08 pm
Potential Head Exploding:
“As a way to solve the national debt crisis, North Carolina Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue recommends suspending Congressional elections for the next couple of years.
“I think we ought to suspend, perhaps, elections for Congress for two years and just tell them we won’t hold it against them, whatever decisions they make, to just let them help this country recover,” Perdue said at a rotary club event in Cary, North Carolina, according to the Raleigh News and Observer. “I really hope that someone can agree with me on that.””
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/27/nc-governor-recommends-suspending-democracy-to-focus-on-jobs/#ixzz1ZBnVky2v
mike "hussein" smith
September 27th, 2011
5:09 pm
LaPierre has been a Looney Tune for a couple of decades at least. This is no different from his usual asinine positions that have no basis in reality.
1811/0311
September 27th, 2011
5:09 pm
From Jay:
“Thulsa, all I can say is, in my now 30 years in this business, I have never seen a lobby more powerful than the NRA. It’s not even close.”
………………. and thank God it is.
How do you think this country was founded or has been kept free all of these years?
By debate? Persuasion? Ideas? Beliefs? The “Vote”?
Yes …………… and all made possible only by “the gun” !
“THE GUN IS CIVILIZATION” by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)
“Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force.
If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force.
Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion.
Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force.
The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations.
These are the people who think that we’d be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger’s potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat–it has no validity when most of a mugger’s potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there’s the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser.
People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level.
The gun is the only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I’m looking to be left alone.
The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force.
It removes force from the equation… and that’s why carrying a gun is a civilized act.”
The above is true among MEN and NATIONS.
Paul
September 27th, 2011
5:10 pm
josef
EIEIO?
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
5:11 pm
josef @ 5:02,
No. They sure don’t like being called out on it. Which is why the 2 posters that I called out on it scurried away with their tails between their legs. What can one really say when their own hypocrisy and bigotry is on display and shown for everyone to see?
Paul
September 27th, 2011
5:11 pm
“Every firearms law made is an infringement of the 2nd amendment”
Ahh, a nice cup of afternoon hyperbole.
Strawman
September 27th, 2011
5:12 pm
““As a way to solve the national debt crisis, North Carolina Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue recommends suspending Congressional elections for the next couple of years.”
Yeah, because Congress is doing such a good job and is held in such high esteem. Or is it to forestall a feared turnover?
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
5:13 pm
Joe T.P.: I will not speak ill of the dead, but another homo sapien companion is actually the best deterent. and this is my point; all this talk of “protection” is something of a myth, and what groups like the NRA rely upon to scare (drive) voters to the left or the right.
A man and woman? Perhaps. This same guy is suspected of taking out a couple in the N.C. Mountain area too. I jog and/or bike a lot in the Georgia mountains (Kennesaw) and I’m glad i have Heckle and Jeckle with me. They’re hearing is better than mine and they are trained, by Dudley’s Dad who is a dog trainer, to put my life first.
But like I said, perhaps it was just her time to go. That sounds callous but sometimes no matter what you do you can’t fight fate.
Strawman
September 27th, 2011
5:13 pm
“As a way to solve the national debt crisis, North Carolina Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue recommends suspending Congressional elections for the next couple of years.”
Jay, is there a column in this story for you?
Paul
September 27th, 2011
5:14 pm
DDR
I’m guessing blog macho talk.
Newspapers have been more along the lines of the demise of a good state rivalry.
You must remember (and no offense to Alabama) but this is Texas. Football is a religion.
1811/0311
September 27th, 2011
5:14 pm
mike “hussein” smith:
Many like you (and Jay) used to say that about LaPierre’s view that the 2nd Amendment was an individual vs. a collective right.
Then the Supreme Court agreed with him.
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-2901.pdf
Paul
September 27th, 2011
5:15 pm
““THE GUN IS CIVILIZATION” by Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)”
There’s a reason that guy did not make general…
Matti Git Yer Gun
September 27th, 2011
5:15 pm
What if drive-by “reasoning” fragments accidentally penetrate the walls of Scout’s home and strike him in the head while he’s sleeping?
josef
September 27th, 2011
5:17 pm
PAUL
@ 5:11
“Every firearms law made is an infringement of the 2nd amendment”
EIEI-OY….?
Paul
September 27th, 2011
5:18 pm
josef
Jay
September 27th, 2011
5:18 pm
Sure, Strawman. Ready?
“That was a damn foolish and strange thing for Perdue to say.”
OK, done. :>)
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
5:19 pm
Paul – I don’t think that is just Texas. I think that is the South in general. Well, except in North Carolina where basketball is their religion. But still. I don’t think that A&M is better than your average SEC team. Maybe Vandy, but they’re just there to raise the GPA of the SEC above failing.
Alright, folks, that’s it for today. I’m going to go to my concrete bunker and clean my guns.
Jefferson
September 27th, 2011
5:20 pm
If it is a rifle association, why do they avocate handguns?
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
5:20 pm
Paul: Newspapers have been more along the lines of the demise of a good state rivalry.
Maybe not. They can always keep the rivalry with Texas. If anything, it’ll make the SEC a little stronger because we’ll get to watch the Longhorns a little more and watch how they play. We armchair Commanders just LOVE to call games from the safety of our sofas.
You must remember (and no offense to Alabama) but this is Texas. Football is a religion
Dude the south PERIOD. I’ve never been so obsessed with Football until I moved to the south. In Washington people like football, but it’s not the number one sport, basketball and soccer are. Here, in the south, I’ve seen grown men get angry over a football game!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
5:21 pm
Mama Joe, you like insulting people personally from the comfort and safety of your PC don’t you? You must have been picked on most of your narrow life.
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
5:23 pm
You must remember (and no offense to Alabama) but this is Texas. Football is a religion.- Paul
Paul,
And football aint religion in Alabama? Judging by the success of the 2 Alabama programs compared to the Texas programs I would say the football religion folks in Alabama are religious zealots while the ones in Texas are once in a blue moon worshipers. We disrespect Texas football. And what was that saying they like to say in Texas “Don’t mess with Texas”? Well. Alabama sure messes with Texas. To the tune of 37-21 in the 2009 bcs title game we sure messed with Tejas.
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
5:23 pm
What if drive-by “reasoning” fragments accidentally penetrate the walls of Scout’s home and strike him in the head while he’s sleeping?
Matt. You. Are. So. BAAADDDD.
josef
September 27th, 2011
5:23 pm
JAY
You’re here, I’ll understand if you don’t answer, but DO you own a gun? I’m you’re Daddy taught you to use one..
And that
@ 5:18
Funny!
(Even if I AM still pissed at you…
)
jm
September 27th, 2011
5:23 pm
Jay 3:35 Buffett pays a higher rate. When logically including the double taxation of corporate income.
Paul
September 27th, 2011
5:23 pm
DDR
Where you are, does it also extend to high school? Also middle and elementary? One of our teams – was nationally ranked many years in a row – all schools – primary to high – have the same mascot, learn the same plays. It’s a football machine.
I called a guy last night to tell him the season premiere of Terra Nova was on. His response? “But it’s Monday Night Football!”
AmVet
September 27th, 2011
5:24 pm
My two cents about A&M joining the SEC?
A great match. Kind of of a UGA West.
Another school that has never really accomplished anything very notable in football, but thinks they’re some sort of perennial powerhouse.
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
5:25 pm
Sorry that should be Matti. It’s getting late and I have a cooking class tonight. Later Gators!!
Question
September 27th, 2011
5:25 pm
In its most political ad in the so-called “Drive One” ads where real drivers are thrust before cameras to explain why they picked Ford, a real Ford F-150 pick-up driver is featured.
His name is Chris. After he sits down the “reporters” bark “Chris, Chris.” One asks him to explain why “was buying American important to you.”
flat-out paranoia??? Seems the following Ford ad was pulled at the request of ???
Sitting and looking sincere and serious, Chris says: “I wasn’t going to buy another car that was bailed out by our government. I was going to buy from a manufacturer that’s standing on their own: win, lose, or draw. That’s what America is about is taking the chance to succeed and understanding when you fail that you gotta’ pick yourself up and go back to work. Ford is that company for me.”
N-GA
September 27th, 2011
5:25 pm
So the NRA is exempt from the “Do not call” program?
jm
September 27th, 2011
5:26 pm
blue 5:01 “Defenders of Wildlife” me too!