The flat-out paranoia of the NRA and Wayne LaPierre
Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, gave me a call at home the other day. In the taped message, my friend Wayne warned me that unless I and other patriotic Americans stepped forward to stop it, the dastardly United Nations, with Iran, China, North Korea and other evil countries behind it, would soon come into our country and into our very homes, strip the Second Amendment out of the Constitution and “take away every pistol, and rifle and shotgun” that we owned.
Riiiggghhht. I just have one question though:
How is the UN going to accomplish this? Are they going to import little bulbous-headed men from Mars toting rayguns to take away our weapons? If so, I’m clinging to my copy of Slim Whitman singing “Indian Love Call” and you can’t have it until you pry it from my cold, dead fingers. Nosireebob.
Look, I recognize that the boundary between serious and seriously crazy has shifted considerably in recent years. But doesn’t this kind of nonsense still qualify on the fully crazy side of the ledger?
The ostensible cause of LaPierre’s hysteria is something called the International Arms Trade Treaty. If ratified by the United Nations and then by the U.S. Senate, it would require countries exporting conventional arms to certify that the weapons aren’t being sent to a terrorist or organized crime group, such as Hezbollah, and that they aren’t being sent to a nation conducting genocide or to a nation under a U.N. arms embargo, such as Iran and North Korea.
It would have no effect whatsoever on domestic ownership, possession or purchase of firearms. Such a claim is politically, practically, legally and constitutionally absurd. So why is Wayne LaPierre calling me and others to pretend otherwise?
Money is part of the reason. The United States accounts for 40 percent of the world’s exports of conventional arms, and the U.S. arms industry is nervous about legislation that might curtail their right to sell arms to whomever they wish. Those manufacturers, not coincidentally, are also heavy donors to the NRA, which is trying to whip up hysteria on their behalf.
In addition, such hysteria is part of the NRA’s own strategy for raising money for its coffers. Once the LaPierre robo-rant about the UN finished, for example, an operator quickly came on line to ask me to donate money to the NRA. I politely declined.
Finally, it’s also a matter of increasingly delusional paranoia infecting the NRA. Prior to the ‘08 election, the gun group warned its members that Barack Obama had a secret 10-point plan to end gun ownership in this country.
Point One was a federal ban on the use of guns for home defense. Point Three was a ban on the sale, manufacture and possession of handguns. Point Four was the closure of 90 percent of American gunshops. Federal taxes on guns and ammunition were supposed to go up 500 percent, and the sale of ammunition for hunting rifles was supposed to be banned altogether.
As you may recall, that bit of hysteria touched off quite a spree of gun-buying after the election, boosting the profits of the NRA’s sponsors in the gun industry. In fact, as ammunition disappeared from store shelves, that itself was quickly cited as evidence that ammo confiscation was already underway. The NRA, in other words, played its own members for patsies.
Today, three years later, none of that has come to pass. Obama has made no effort whatsoever to alter the nation’s gun laws. So, given their hyperbolic claims, you might think that would make LaPierre and others a little embarrassed, right? It’s like when evangelist Harold Camping predicted that the world would end on May 21. When he woke up May 22, you just know he felt at least a wee bit sheepish about it, right?
Well, no. Camping did no such thing, because you see, Camping is crazy. Instead of apologizing, he announced that May 21 had merely been the day of spiritual judgment, and that God was really coming to destroy the universe on Oct. 21, 2011. And that’s exactly the course that LaPierre and the NRA are taking.
In a speech at a conservative conference in Florida this month, LaPierre explained that by taking no action to implement his alleged 10-point program, Obama had actually proved that the NRA had been right all along.
You see, “before the president was even sworn into office, they met and hatched a conspiracy of public deception to guarantee his re-election in 2012″ by just PRETENDING not to seize guns. The failure to act “is all part of a massive Obama conspiracy to deceive voters and hide his true intentions to destroy the Second Amendment.”
“We see the president’s strategy crystal clear. Get re-elected and, with no more elections to worry about, get busy dismantling and destroying our firearms freedom. Erase the Second Amendment from the Bill of Rights and exorcise it from the U.S. Constitution….
President Obama and his cohorts — yeah, they’re going to deny their conspiracy to fool gun owners. Some of the liberal media are probably already blogging about it. But we don’t care because as far as we’re concerned, that lying, conniving Obama crowd can kiss our Constitution!”
The fact that such people have considerable influence over our nation’s policies — for example, 45 senators have signed a letter condemning the arms trade treaty, including the two from Georgia — does not speak well of us.
– Jay Bookman
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Adam
September 27th, 2011
3:15 pm
GLL: Your sarcastic “no one needed to protect themselves from criminals during the Obama presidency” wasn’t enough?
Oh right, you only say it when you say it. Like when Rick Perry says SS is a Ponzi Scheme and we’re supposed to believe he isn’t saying anything fraudulent is going on and he wants to fix it instead of get rid of it.
Common Sense
September 27th, 2011
3:17 pm
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2011
3:17 pm
Ahh… let’s add in the “a little booty call in Africa that some people call rape” as some sort of flippant line and we see more of why the righties and the crazies are almost indistinguishable from each other.
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
3:17 pm
Im digging that recipe, Debbie. As we happen to have a jar of roasted peppers sitting unused in our pantry, I believe that recipe is going to happen real soon at our house.
Matti Git Yer Gun
September 27th, 2011
3:18 pm
Recon,
If your home phone number is listed, then you probably will get the call. Check your caller ID. The name is NRA and the calls all came from numbers beginning in 703-656, with the extension varying slightly on each call. I asked how he they got my number, and the solicitor said he didn’t know. He did not seem to think I was already a member, because he kept saying things to scare me into joining. Bless his heart.
getalife
September 27th, 2011
3:18 pm
LSU is #1.
With a second string quarterback.
Joe COOL
September 27th, 2011
3:19 pm
“Those chicken people, clinging to their guns and religion”
FACT!!
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
3:19 pm
Hey AmVet!!
would someone please educate the semi-literate, but well-armed oafs at the NRA, that the word is excise, not exorcise?
AmVet the NRA is correct because…..(drum roll please)………………
The Government, especially THE Obama, is an evil entity that has possessed the very fabric of America and must be EXCORCISED from existence.
(Cue Stars & Stripes and Uncle Sam carrying an M60)
out of the blue
September 27th, 2011
3:20 pm
jm
September 27th, 2011
3:05 pm
Those chicken people, clinging to their guns and religion.
Chicken people??? JM I think you added a word “chicken”
I can tell by your posts you’re not the brightest bulb on this blog, but at least be accurate!
video and transcript of what Obama actually said.
http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctliveblog/archives/2008/04/obama_they_clin.html
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
3:21 pm
Debbie – Okay, you win (gotta give a few to these Auburn fans
Joe COOL
September 27th, 2011
3:21 pm
How many times a week do you CONs clean your guns? lol
AmVet
September 27th, 2011
3:21 pm
Jay, reading that bizarre screed at 3:08, confirms what I have suspected for a long time.
To the violence-addicts, the Second Amendment, NOT the First Amendment is the cornerstone of our democracy.
I say we get rid of that silly nonsense about establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances, and move the Second to it’s rightful place…
Bosch
September 27th, 2011
3:24 pm
Debbie
I’m not sure “love” is the proper word to describe my feelings for Six.
Mrs. G! I so hope Joe is feeling better! With election time closing in, he will need all his wits and resources to once again eat those Obama sign thieves that plague your yard! Get ‘em Joe! Apollo and Starbuck send their supportive get well woofs – and…
…beware Obama yard sign thieves, this time the Bosches have two fierce thief eaters.
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
3:24 pm
LSU is #1 – for now. They have to get through Fla. (10/8) and “Bamad” (sometime in November) so, Wait until they go down to the Swamp and become Gator Bait, or up to Tuscaloosa and become “Bamad”.
Walter
September 27th, 2011
3:25 pm
Meanwhile, we have Obama out there trying to tell everyone that Warren Buffet’s secretary’s salary is taxed at a higher rate than Warren Buffets.
Jay – why are you worried about what the NRA is saying when we have an incompetent, nincompoop, boob of a potus out ther flat out lying to the American people on a daily basis?
Bosch
September 27th, 2011
3:27 pm
I’ve always thought that gun nuts are simply those that lack in certain areas and use that to compensate.
Hey, gun nuts how many times have you actually used your guns to ward off criminals and defend your family and homeland?
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
3:27 pm
JoeM: Im digging that recipe, Debbie. As we happen to have a jar of roasted peppers sitting unused in our pantry, I believe that recipe is going to happen real soon at our house
It’s really good! Try a sip of Spatlese with the meal, (if you drink wine & like a semi sweet one); or a good ole Sam Adams Wheat, (if you don’t).
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
3:28 pm
Debbie – Can you get me an M60? Just to play with for a few days?
Jay
September 27th, 2011
3:28 pm
Walter, do you have evidence that Buffett’s secretary DOESN’T pay a higher rate than Buffett?
Put more directly, can you back up your claim that Obama and Buffett are lying?
No, didn’t think so. Somebody’s lying, and I think it’s you.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
3:28 pm
Matti,
Like I said I’ve been an NRA member for years. They have my telephone number, my home address and email address. Never received an emotional telephone call like the one described. I did receive an email alert about the U.N. and the “International Arms Trading Agreement” but it only indicated concerns about its potential objective. It’s the NRA’s job to be alert to any proposed legislation that could affect gun owner rights.
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
3:29 pm
Bosch – I haven’t had to yet, but the wife has twice. I’m more of a hunting and sport shooting type of guy.
Schrodinger's cat
September 27th, 2011
3:29 pm
Deb – I’ll give it a go…any reason to make the house smell of roasted red peppers id good enough for me…I may sub goat cheese for the feta though..
You did say Chicken Fettuccine after all is why I thought white sauce
jm
September 27th, 2011
3:30 pm
blue – whatever dude. Editorial license.
Joe COOL
September 27th, 2011
3:30 pm
“Meanwhile, we have Obama out there trying to tell everyone that Warren Buffet’s secretary’s salary is taxed at a higher rate than Warren Buffets.”
ACTUALLY, Warren Buffet wrote that in a column, and Obama has just been repeating it.
Jays got the loonies “feelin’ a certain way” cuz you’re talking about their guns…lol
Bosch
September 27th, 2011
3:30 pm
Out of the blue
I always thought Obama said “dumb asses” clinging to their guns and religion…
It seems more appropriate to me, but thanks for setting the record straight.
jm
September 27th, 2011
3:30 pm
Jay 3:28 – I can
Adam
September 27th, 2011
3:31 pm
Jay: He’s double lying because he said the President said that her tax RATE is higher (rather than saying she pays more percentage wise, also known as the effective tax rate).
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
3:31 pm
Jay – why are you worried about what the NRA is saying when we have an incompetent, nincompoop, boob of a potus out ther flat out lying to the American people on a daily basis?
Bush is no longer president, that’s why. Duh!
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
3:33 pm
Bosch – So am I half of a dumb ass for clinging only to my guns?
Joe COOL
September 27th, 2011
3:33 pm
“Like I said I’ve been an NRA member for years. They have my telephone number, my home address and email address.”
Well dayum, do they have your SSN too.
Bosch
September 27th, 2011
3:33 pm
irRational
She actually pulled a gun on a criminal who was there to do harm?
jm
September 27th, 2011
3:33 pm
my 3:30 (Jay, I’m your huckleberry)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108358/quotes
Adam
September 27th, 2011
3:33 pm
“It seems to me the people who made those decisions [in the past] are the ones saying that [we shouldn't look into the past beyond Obama taking office for our problems]” – Jon Stewart
Apples and Oranges
September 27th, 2011
3:34 pm
For Buffett to pay less income tax on his income than his secretary, he would have to have less earned income than his secretary.
Do you have any evidence that this is true, Jay?
And as a reminder, capital gains, dividends, and interest are NOT considered earned income by the IRS.
Bosch
September 27th, 2011
3:34 pm
irRational
Yes.
Jay
September 27th, 2011
3:34 pm
To the violence-addicts, the Second Amendment, NOT the First Amendment is the cornerstone of our democracy.
Oh, they’ll tell you that flat out, AmVet. That is a foundational belief.
And to Bosch: Marian Hammer, who served as NRA president for a while, once bragged to me that she had used her pistol three separate times to ward off would-be attackers. On the final occasion, she said, she was outraged when a cop showed up and threatened to arrest her for threatening another person with a firearm without cause.
I suspect that cop was exactly right. If you’re a little old lady who has had to pull a weapon three times, you’re a little trigger happy.
out of the blue
September 27th, 2011
3:35 pm
“Whatever dude” I kinda like that jm….So you (shrug) lied?
Didn’t your mama teach you it’s a sin to tell a lie?
Jay
September 27th, 2011
3:35 pm
Apples, you’re comparing apples and oranges.
Buffett said he paid a lower tax RATE, not lower taxes.
Adam
September 27th, 2011
3:36 pm
If you’re a little old lady who has had to pull a weapon three times, you’re a little trigger happy.
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
3:37 pm
Bosch – Yeah, twice she convinced someone that kicking down the front door wasn’t the best idea using my .357 Mag revolver when she was at home by herself. As for your 3:34, guess I walked into that one.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
3:37 pm
“Hey, gun nuts how many times have you actually used your guns to ward off criminals and defend your family and homeland?”
Bosch, reports in the AJC about someone defending themselves with a gun here in Metro Atlanta appear on not an infrequent basis.
Granny Godzilla
September 27th, 2011
3:38 pm
Bosch
My brother rigged up a little something using a big old battery
to send a little shock to the sign stealers…..
Bosch
September 27th, 2011
3:39 pm
Yeah Jay that’s the thing, these gun nuts think life is like in the movies. I know that it does rarely happen that someone actually does save themselves or a family member because they had a gun, but that is certainly not the norm or even statistically significant I’m willing to wager.
Strawman
September 27th, 2011
3:40 pm
“Evidently Operation “Fast and Furious” doesn’t warrant any blog topic consideration.”
Not here. You shouldn’t throw garbage in your backyard.
Granny Godzilla
September 27th, 2011
3:40 pm
Apples and Oranges
You’re kidding us right?
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
3:40 pm
Debbie – Can you get me an M60? Just to play with for a few days?
Got mine off of Amazon! I use it to go hunting. Honest.
CatDaddy: You did say Chicken Fettuccine after all is why I thought white sauce
Fettucine is the noodle not the sauce.
PS: I’ve been taking up cooking classes. Everyone in my family, even my “special” aunt can cook. Everyone but ME. I blame my brothers, (I blame everything on them, saves time) — anywhooo I’ve been taking up cooking classes so that when Dudley comes home in November I’ll be able to cook him something other than Campbell’s Soup.
PSS: Even DUDLEY can cook!! If it wasn’t for the fact that he married me for my mind, I’d feel really, really, bad.
Bosch
September 27th, 2011
3:41 pm
Del
No they don’t. It is an anomaly at best and certainly not “frequent” as I’m sure all you who fantacize about wiping out the bad guys in a blaze of glory would like to think.
Strawman
September 27th, 2011
3:41 pm
“Put more directly, can you back up your claim that Obama and Buffett are lying?”
Do you honestly think they don’t ever?
blue_unicorn
September 27th, 2011
3:42 pm
I don’t take NRA robo calls. I am surprised that Jay does.
mike thompson
September 27th, 2011
3:43 pm
I have a federal class 3 fire arms license. I will not join the NRA I may be crazy but I am not that crazy. They are certifiable looney tunes.
Schrodinger's cat
September 27th, 2011
3:44 pm
Deb, I know what fettuccine is…I make my own pasta
Just pointing out the dish you fist spoke of is traditionally a cream sauce
oldguy
September 27th, 2011
3:44 pm
Oh where to start:
OK Jay ….. “In fact, as ammunition disappeared from store shelves, that itself was quickly cited as evidence that ammo confiscation was already underway.” please attribute that quote to an NRA official.
I have been a Life member of the NRA for many years and I have never seen that quote from the NRA.
You want evidence , California libs are trying to pass a prohibitive tax (10cents per cartridge) on ammunition.
Maryland libs trying to get additives added to ammunition to cause ammunition to break down after a period of time, making it useless.
Mass libs trying to get trace chemicals added to powder to allow tracing of ammunition (and fouling of firearms making them unusuable over time).
Chicago, DC and New York City outlawing firearm possession (directly opposed to the US Constitution).
Step back to 1994 when the Clinton admin married itself to Handgun Control Inc. They attributed a major part of their defeat that year to the NRA……and they advised all Democrat politicians to back off gun control if they wanted to be elected to office.
Are you a member of the NRA? is that why you got the call? I have been a member for many years and I have never gotten a fundraising call (although every time I log onto my webmail I get a pop-up from the Obama campaign asking for money!! I have asked the provider to remove this from my mail but they refuse saying that the Obama campaign has paid them for the rights to spam me with money requests!).
Matti Git Yer Gun
September 27th, 2011
3:45 pm
Recon: Never received an emotional telephone call like the one described.
Are you saying we’re lying about the phone calls? Or are you saying that you don’t believe you are targeted with absurd scare tactics because you are already a member?
(By scare tactics, I mean, “They are going to take away our guns if Obama serves a second term, which is why we have to stop that from happening!”)
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
3:46 pm
D. DoRight — “It’s really good! Try a sip of Spatlese with the meal, (if you drink wine & like a semi sweet one); or a good ole Sam Adams Wheat, (if you don’t).”
A dry or semi-sweet German white is right in my zone, but I’m afraid I don’t drink any more for medical reasons. About the closest I get to alcohol any more is when my wife makes marsala.
Joe COOL
September 27th, 2011
3:47 pm
oldguy
September 27th, 2011
3:44 pm
^^^^ And we have a winner for gun nut of the day!
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
3:47 pm
Bosch, I said “not Infrequent” You tend to assume too much about that which you know little.
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
3:49 pm
Bosch: I know that it does rarely happen that someone actually does save themselves or a family member because they had a gun
I’ve always stated that you have to get to your gun FIRST in order to use it. It’s effective if you have the time to unlock your safe, or wherever you put it, but if you don’t and the criminal is upon you, know how to defend yourself with some simple close combat skills even if you’re 160 and lying flat on your back. I can shoot a gun AND I have a 3rd degree black belt in Martial Arts AND I have 2 pit bulls. I live alone, I own a gun, but I’m prepared just in case I can’t get to that gun in time.
If you’re gonna run up on Debbie thinking I’m a cream puff — you’re going to get hurt.
Jay
September 27th, 2011
3:50 pm
Old guy, I did not state and did not mean to imply that such statements came from NRA officials.
Road Scholar
September 27th, 2011
3:50 pm
Who the hell sold Libya 20,000 hand held anti aircraft missles? Wasn’t a little bit of oversale, esp to a dictator like Kadafy, who pleaded guilty to shooting down an airliner over 10 years ago? But we do not need any regulations! God, please save us from the idiots! Oh you say it was just capatalism at its best?
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
3:53 pm
Bosch,
I left you and aquagirl a post downstairs worth looking at. Be sure to click on the link.
Keep Up the Good Fight!
September 27th, 2011
3:54 pm
I can shoot a gun AND I have a 3rd degree black belt in Martial Arts AND I have 2 pit bulls.
And she looks good while doing it too! DebbieDoRight = DebbieDangerous.
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
3:55 pm
D. DoRight — “AND I have 2 pit bulls”
My wife and I heartily endorse Chow Chows. Quiet, clean, well-behaved. And SPOOKY smart, and creepily observant. They watch what you do and seem to pick up on hoomin things almost immediately. My wife swears ours understand what we say; whether or not they obey us is something else entirely.
Armed Liberal
September 27th, 2011
3:55 pm
I blame Lieberman and his gal pal from SC for all of this.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
3:55 pm
oldguy,
What you’re seeing here this afternoon is the anti-gun nuts accusing everyone who belongs to the NRA as a gun nut. Interesting example of sanctimony and hypocrisy.
Jerome Horwitz
September 27th, 2011
3:56 pm
When caller ID’d the NRA I didn’t bother to pick up the phone. Now I almost wish I had. Could have used a good laugh.
While the good and bad points of the NRA have been debtated we haven’t addressed the matter of the Treaty. From what Jay described this should be a “slam dunk”. The fact that 45 Senators have come out against it is amazing. Do we have something to hide? It’s scary how we rant/rave against these nations and orgamiztions and yet are against a treaty that makes it harder to arm them.
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
3:58 pm
Well Jay,
I won’t argue with you on the nuttiness of LaPierre and the gun obsession crowd. Never owned a gun and probably never will although I have no problem whatsoever with people who do.
Regarding the arms trade treaty common sense tells you that there is something wrong with that treaty if 45 U.S. senators, including numerous Democrats, opposed the bill. Rather than concentrating on the fringe element like LaPierre I think your blog audience would have been better served had you concentrated on the specific reasons why the overwhelming majority of the senators opposed it. I seriously doubt you can chalk up 45 out of 50 being against it solely to the influence of the NRA when many conservatives such as myself don’t even care about the NRA.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 27th, 2011
3:58 pm
Well, I ain’t paranoid, but when them little men with the bulb-like heads show up to take my anti-tank weapon and the two machine guns I use for hunting and self-defense, they’re going to get a nasty suprize.
Trouble is, now I’m going to have to take my guns with me everywhere I go. I mean, if I’m out hauling beer when they come to the trailer, all the missus has is a frying pan. She can be mighty mean with that when she loses her temper, but I doubt she’ll able to fight off a whole bunch of little men that are bent on taking my guns.
Anyhow, all I can say now is, I told you so. This Obama intends to take our guns and only the Patriots in this country can stop him.
And it tells you something about his jobs plan that he went and hired a bunch of people from Mars instead of getting plain old out-of-work Americans.
So relax, fellow Patriots. You ain’t paranoid. They really are out to get you. Or at least your guns.
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
3:59 pm
CatDaddy you make your own noodles?!?!! I should be paying YOU for cooking lessons! The lady who comes to my place always uses those hard noodles from Pastas R Us or something!
JoeM – Sorry to hear that! My first wine that I’ve ever had was when I lived in Germany with my dad and me and my brothers, (the spawns of satan) snuck out one time and went to the Oktoberfest in Frankfurt. They had beer, but they had this stuff called gruhwine which is a warm red wine — best time I ever had, (after I got through throwing up that is).
Chicken Marsala is what I’ll be learning to make next week. I’m hoping mine will turn out as good as the one at Carrabba’s.
Recon (2nd.and 3rd.)
September 27th, 2011
4:00 pm
DebbieDo@3:49pm…you sexy thing. The girl I marry will have to be Recon, Ranger, UDT. It didn’t work out that way though.
jewcowboy
September 27th, 2011
4:00 pm
Does the NRA have anything like this?
From the 17:20 mark: http://smotri.com/video/view/?id=v1188793dd22
Petey: Hi, I’m Petey the Pistol! Say, do you ever get lonely?
Boy: Yes…
Petey: Me too… Hold me.
If you squeeze me, I make bad people go away!
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:01 pm
Recon — “What you’re seeing here this afternoon is the anti-gun nuts accusing everyone who belongs to the NRA as a gun nut.”
Nobody’s called *me* a gun nut.
Jay
September 27th, 2011
4:01 pm
I seriously doubt you can chalk up 45 out of 50 being against it solely to the influence of the NRA when many conservatives such as myself don’t even care about the NRA.
Well, Thulsa, you’d be very very wrong about that.
Finn McCool
September 27th, 2011
4:01 pm
Don’t hold this analysis just to the NRA; Fox News, conservative talk shows, etc have ALL learned how to prey on the fears of the less intelligent/inately paranoid/extremely angry among us.
It’s amazing what they can get away with – and no one holds them accountable from their own side of the aisle. When Media Matters or Jon Stewart, etc try to call them on their crap their followers wail “Oh, the liberal media bias…oh, I’m so victimized….oh whoa is me….”
Pretty pathetic – not only the initiators of this crap but their listeners/followers as well.
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
4:02 pm
I can shoot a gun AND I have a 3rd degree black belt in Martial Arts AND I have 2 pit bulls.- Debbiedoright
Duly noted. I’ll be sure not to pi$$ you off again. Wouldn’t want an eye gouging, a bellyfull of lead, and hands and throat being chewed on like toys all at the same time.
Finn McCool
September 27th, 2011
4:05 pm
What’s funny is people living in trailers owning guns cause people might want to take their ….umm….trailer? Or some of their other extravagant stuff like jewels and furs and precious collectibles like the salt and pepper shaker collection (OH MY!)…
Gotta own a double wide to keep all that sweet stuff!
jewcowboy
September 27th, 2011
4:07 pm
“I’d kill you if I had my gun!”
http://youtu.be/xIpLd0WQKCY
Finn McCool
September 27th, 2011
4:07 pm
…and that precious black light poster collection….
…and those special edition 9/11 coins from the Franklin mint..
OH MY!
Steve - USA
September 27th, 2011
4:07 pm
Media Matters…..there is an unbiased news source. LOL
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
4:08 pm
Keep – Too funny!
JoeM: My wife and I heartily endorse Chow Chows. Quiet, clean, well-behaved. And SPOOKY smart, and creepily observant. They watch what you do and seem to pick up on hoomin things almost immediately. My wife swears ours understand what we say; whether or not they obey us is something else entirely.
I like Chows but I thought you can only have one at a time, (like Akita’s) because they can’t get along with others. I like my pit bulls because they’re affectionate and LOVE to play!! Dudley was the one who made me, (even though I thank him now — don’t tell him though it’ll give him a big water head), get a more aggressive dog after that girl got murdered in the Georgia mountains on New Year’s Day a few years back, (Meredith somebody). Her dog was so gentle, it just sat there and let her be violated and brutally killed while it just barked and rolled over.
I like a playful dog, but I need something that’s going to rip the throat out of anyone who approaches me in a threatening way too.
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
4:08 pm
Jay,
Do you have anything showing that the majority of these senators voted this way primarily due to NRA lobbying and pressure? As I said I think you could have better served your audience by specifying why senators, particularly the liberal ones, voted against the treaty as opposed to simply attributing the vote to NRA influence.
Perhaps I need to get out more in the con community but I personally don’t know one con who is a con primarily due to the gun debate. And I do know quite a few liberals who sure as hell aint gonna give up their guns to anyone. Debbiedo would probably be a good example.
midtownguy
September 27th, 2011
4:08 pm
I was raised in the rural south and hunting was a way of life for us. Between my father, brother and myself I would guess we owned 18 to 20 rifles and shotguns all locked in a gun cabinet that only my father had access to. But we did not own a single handgun, assault rifle or automatic weapon.
I remember my father saying “some guns are made for hunting, other are made for killing.” No one is looking to limit the number of hunting guns anyone owns.
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
September 27th, 2011
4:09 pm
Georgia City Bans Bras on Local Streets—Fox News
It’s Savannah—I might of knowed. I’ll be sure and not go there. Who wants to see a bunch of fat women flopping all over the place? First the guns, now the bras. Ain’t nothing sacred anymore?
Gordon
September 27th, 2011
4:09 pm
Is this the Left’s equivalent of “The Republicans are going to throw Granny off a cliff” or “Republicans hate poor people”?
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:10 pm
D. DoRight — “this stuff called gruhwine which is a warm red wine”
*Gluhwein,* perhaps? Quite literally, ‘glow-wine,’ because it makes you glow?
“Chicken Marsala is what I’ll be learning to make next week. I’m hoping mine will turn out as good as the one at Carrabba’s.”
IIRC, you’re an Auburn grad, so this might be of interest to you if you venture back to AL anytime soon. My wife was visiting her parents in Huntsville a few years ago (her brother lives in Huntsville and her parents were visiting him, his wife and their new baby, but my wife and her brother do not get along), and on her way back, she felt like it’d be a good idea to have a bottle of good gin for when she got home (decompression purposes, you understand). So she stopped at an AL state ABC store.
Whereupon she discovered that they stock the hell out of an inexpensive Marsala. And it turned out to be *remarkably good* for the cost. So if you have cause to visit AL anytime soon (maybe going to a home Auburn game), you might want to make a side trip to an AL state store and pick up a bottle or two for cooking. I highly recommend pork loin chops Marsala in the fall.
TaxPayer
September 27th, 2011
4:10 pm
Guns! What a waste of good money now that we have miniature missiles to mount on our little remote controlled helicopters.
oldguy
September 27th, 2011
4:12 pm
Let me ask you a question Joe,
Do you have auto insurance? Why, do you expect to cause an accident? If not you don’t need auto insurance.
I have life insurance, i.e. a concealed carry permit. It gives me an option if I happen to be in a life threatening situation. If you are not armed it is the criminal’s option as to whether you live or die….if you are armed you have a choice.
I was an MP in Vietnam and have used a firearm to protect myself and others.
Ask any law officer if they are there to prevent crime, that is not their job, if they do it is ancillary to their job, they are there to investigate and solve crimes. i.e. you don’t call a police officer until a crime is committed, they have no jurisdiction until then, they are not bodyguards.
Its your responsibility to protect yourself and your family. I plan on being proactive and giving myself a choice!
Thulsa Doom
September 27th, 2011
4:12 pm
Finn McCool
September 27th, 2011
4:05 pm
“What’s funny is people living in trailers owning guns cause people might want to take their ….umm….trailer? Or some of their other extravagant stuff like jewels and furs and precious collectibles like the salt and pepper shaker collection (OH MY!)…”
“Gotta own a double wide to keep all that sweet stuff!”
Well you knew it wouldn’t be long before some supposedly enlightened progressive would show his ignorance by positing that bigotry towards one particular group is A-okay. Finn McCool is the same sort of racist that decrys racism but yet exhibits the same brand of bigotry as those he claims to detest.
Joe the Plutocrat
September 27th, 2011
4:13 pm
This is fundraising and shameless, carnybarker fundraising at that. The proof is in the pudding, folks. The second amendment is like ALL amdendments; it’s a pacifier. There is not “right to bear arms” because the state can sellectively honor or disregard this for any reason. LaPierre is like a “pump and dump” stockbroker or short seller. Anyone who shoots saw firearm and ammo prices spike when Obama was elected; simply because of the “he’s gonna take your guns” chicken little crowd. In this economy, do you think arms merchants would fall behind in production? It’s the oldest play in the book, folks. It’s like the DADT will destroy the military, same-sex marriage will destroy society, and No Child Left Behind is “for the children”. Hey DDR, if you can shoot, the black belt isn’t worth anyting beyond keeping your trousers up, and pit bulls, while dangerous to other dogs, are pretty human compatible.
1811/0311
September 27th, 2011
4:13 pm
The NRA ………….. hummmmmmmm ………… like most organizations they have an agenda, are far from perfect, need lots of money, lobby hard, use hyperbole and …………. and ……………….. if it didn’t exist our guns and our right to carry them would have pretty much been gone years ago.
Thank God for the imperfect NRA !!
(ir)Rational
September 27th, 2011
4:14 pm
Debbie – Her name was Meredith Emerson. The victims should always be remembered instead of the asses. I agree with whoever it was that said you should get something more reliable in that regard. Don’t set yourself up to be a victim.
Peter
September 27th, 2011
4:14 pm
Well if Republican’s can believe ………
Bin Laden and Saddam were working together………then they will believe this, and many other tall tales !
Thus the crazy attitude put forth to create chaos……. Cause when all else fails ….like sound policy, then the Right will have to cause chaos…..heck did they ever balance the budget as planned or end the made up war ?
The Republican’s certainly have done zero in the last 5 years.
Maybe the NRA ought to have a prayer meeting about this ?
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:14 pm
The NRA does have a tendency to go off the deep end with some of its horse-sh*t and that’s coming from a die-hard Second Amendment purist…
Debbie–I’m glad you’re my friend…but any woman living alone who doesn’t know those things and have a gun might want to rethink…
jewcowboy
Long time, no hear from…howzit goin’?
DebbieDoRight
September 27th, 2011
4:15 pm
Recon: The girl I marry will have to be Recon, Ranger, UDT.
What does UDT mean?
Doom – Don’t worry you’re safe. I’m 95% pacifist. It’s just that 5% witch you have to look out for.
David Shivers
September 27th, 2011
4:16 pm
So Johnny and Saxby drank the “Kool-NRAid,” huh?
1811/0311
September 27th, 2011
4:16 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z05UF_pTYAE&feature=related
Are some of the above folks into it maybe just a little too much? Sure.
Bet I double dog dare you to try to break into one of their homes.
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:17 pm
D. Doright — “I like Chows but I thought you can only have one at a time, (like Akita’s) because they can’t get along with others.”
Unless and until you are familiar with the breed, I strongly recommend not having more than one *female* Chow at a time. Female Chows can be *very* aggressive, dominant and bossy, and they will test the hell out of you. Ours was like a little Chinese empress in her puppyhood. Our older male Chow put the smackdown on her, tho, and things went better after that. A couple of years later, we introduced our Chows to a female Chow we were considering adopting, and I thought our little lady was going to try to rip the other girl’s throat out (the potential adoptee enthusiastically returned the sentiment).
I once saw three beautiful young Akitas in a county animal shelter, and they seemed to be getting along fine. So well, in fact, that they creeped my wife out. She said they looked like they were mobbed up (Yakuza gang?) and would hold us hostage until we came across with treats and squeaky toys.
Steve - USA
September 27th, 2011
4:18 pm
The only thing people agree with is good food. Maybe Washington just needs to go to lunch together. The rest of can go to Jay’s house for BBQ.
Joe Mama
September 27th, 2011
4:18 pm
oldguy — “Let me ask you a question Joe”
You talking to me?
josef
September 27th, 2011
4:18 pm
Thulsa
@ 4:12
Yep. But…but… But, hell, as soon as somebody starts on that one, the first thing I look for is their sheet…
And just cause I don’t care for oxtail doesn’t mean you have to like it!
Schrodinger's cat
September 27th, 2011
4:19 pm
Deb,
UDT – Underwater Demolition Team