An American soldier booed at GOP debate

At last night’s GOP debate, a soldier serving in Iraq asked an important question of Republican candidates for president:

Let me list several quick points:

– It’s important to note that not all or even most of the audience booed the soldier. But some clearly did. More importantly, the number of those booing is less important than the fact that none of the candidates on the stage dared to rise in the soldier’s defense and ask that he at least be given a basic level of respect for serving this country. All they saw was gay. As far as I can tell, the only candidate to have personally condemned the booing since the debate occurred has been Jon Huntsman.

– The mere act of appearing on that video took a degree of courage that those booing anonymously could never muster. (I’d also suggest that those who question the ability of gay soldiers to fight and defend this country might not be so willing to say so in this man’s immediate presence.)

– Finally, can you imagine the uproar if members of a Democratic audience on national television had booed an American soldier on active duty in a war zone? The mind boggles at the outrage that would ensue. But again, simply because he’s gay, Stephen Hill is considered fair game. Normal rules of patriotism and simple decency do not apply.

– Jay Bookman

368 comments Add your comment

They BOTH suck

September 23rd, 2011
10:44 am

Did Bachman offer free counseling at her husband’s clinic?

Thomas

September 23rd, 2011
10:44 am

“if members of a Democratic audience”-

Is there a way to ascertain the correctness of the assertion that it was RNC members booing?

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
10:44 am

Jay

I’m always concern about the poor and minorities. I know that this bugs you, but its a fact. I don’t want them to be poor and uneducated. That’s why I’m a Republican.

(ir)Rational

September 23rd, 2011
10:45 am

They do apply, but the current crop of candidates, for the most part, suck. Or as somebody said earlier, maybe the Republicans only support the non-gay troops.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
10:46 am

Jay

“All they saw was gay.”

All he said was guy.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
10:46 am

Just heard about that on CNN. I’m not surprised at all that Huntsman is the only one who’s made any kind of statement condemning that act. The other GOP candidates are nothing more than opportunistic populists. They’ll make a statement condemning what happened once someone shows them how much it will help their poll numbers to make such a statement.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
10:46 am

Stonethrower

September 23rd, 2011
10:48 am

GLL, why should you be concerned about poor and minorities?

Stonethrower

September 23rd, 2011
10:49 am

Gay is one of the third rails of politics and should be avoided at all cost.

Newtpewt

September 23rd, 2011
10:49 am

Most of the “hawks” on that stage chose to not serve and have never fought for Uncle Sam. This present crop of hypocrites on stage is typical. Thank you for your service and courage, young man!

Joe Mama

September 23rd, 2011
10:49 am

Why do Republicans hate our soldiers?

Joe the Plutocrat

September 23rd, 2011
10:49 am

not that Santorum was ever part of the conversation; now he is not.

Hook, Line, and Sinker

September 23rd, 2011
10:49 am

What we know about the GOP:

They think if you are uninsured, you should be left to die.

When one of their candidates brags about the number of executions his state performs, they go into a frenzied applause.

If you are an active-duty American soldier serving in Iraq, you get booed.

JOE C00L

September 23rd, 2011
10:51 am

Who is surprised?

Cheers FOR execution!
Calls to let uninsured DIE and
BOOs for a gay man who would die for them to have that freedom to BOO

Hook, Line, and Sinker

September 23rd, 2011
10:51 am

The WORST part is that NONE of those candidates had the decency to back those bigots in the crowd down, nor even THANK the soldier for his service.

Lee

September 23rd, 2011
10:51 am

BS Bookman. What I heard was one or two hecklers who booed the soldier and the candidates merely did not acknowledge the heckler.

Bookman is merely trying to create controversy where there is none.

For the best perspective about gays in the military, listen to this bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLpslP2jt7w

Best line: “Great idea. Let’s put America’s defense in the hands of the guys who got beat up all through high school.” ROFLMAO

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
10:51 am

Stonethrower

“GLL, why should you be concerned about poor and minorities?”

Human compassion. It’s a weakness of mine. I also contribute work to the United Way.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
10:52 am

HLS

Those things don’t show much of anything about the GOP candidates though. The only way to gauge the candidates is by their actions/responses to those suggestions.

ty webb

September 23rd, 2011
10:53 am

Debbie Wasserman-Bookman,
maybe it was the question that was booed.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
10:54 am

So you guys expected political candidates with limited time to use that time to scold an audience.

Really?

Joe the Plutocrat

September 23rd, 2011
10:54 am

the remarkable aspect of the whole “gay/third rail issue” issue is; the fear of homosexuality demonstrated by the anti-DADT crowd. contrary to Santorum’s infantile response; if “the only job of the military is to defend our country” then openly gay/lesbian soldiers should not be required as DoD policy to NOT discuss certain subjects. once a soldier is sworn in; he/seh should be judged by performance and not sexual behaviors. the bottom line is; it is not against the law to be gay, ergo defending America includes “upholding the Constitution”. the base-level, Christian, circular logic of these shameless politicos is pathetic. oh well; Who Is Gary Johnson?

Hook, Line, and Sinker

September 23rd, 2011
10:54 am

Lee
September 23rd, 2011
10:51 am

Did anyone on stage at that time scold those that were booing? Did any candidate thank the young soldier for serving?

Doggone/GA

September 23rd, 2011
10:54 am

“Is there a way to ascertain the correctness of the assertion that it was RNC members booing?”

The issue isn’t who booed…the issue is the non-reaction of the candidates

Hook, Line, and Sinker

September 23rd, 2011
10:56 am

Good little liberal
September 23rd, 2011
10:54 am

It takes 10 seconds to say “That is not appropriate folks, and thank you for serving young man.”

Bosch

September 23rd, 2011
10:56 am

So Rick, would you actually kick this guy out of the military?

Jay

September 23rd, 2011
10:57 am

Debbie Wasserman-Bookman,
maybe it was the question that was booed.

Really, Ty?

So your theory is that if Megan Kelly had asked the candidates about DADT, she would have been booed? If that’s the best rationale you can come up with, that says a lot.

Bosch

September 23rd, 2011
10:57 am

No GS, I will not enter my comments there. I will do it like everyone else and put them in the little box below. So there.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
10:58 am

Hook, Line, and Sinker

So you are dictating what the candidates should say?

Can I dictate what Obama should say?

JOE C00L

September 23rd, 2011
10:58 am

Funny how none of our resident CONs have yet to stand to defend this soldier.

Generation$crewed

September 23rd, 2011
10:58 am

I was taught not to feed ignorance. Arguing or trying to explain to those who would boo an active service member is pointless. The situation will certainly only escalate, thus giving these idiots even more attention than they deserve.

What would have been gained by starting a verbal interaction with those who booed?

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
10:58 am

So you guys expected political candidates with limited time to use that time to scold an audience.

I wouldn’t expect it. However, if it was something that I didn’t like or something that upset me, I would have made it known afterwards with at least a written statement released to the press. When you’re a candidate, the debate doesn’t end after the last question. You have to be on 24/7 and ready to go at all times. There’s been ample time to release a statement condemning the actions of those few people who decided it was ok to boo a soldier currently in a war zone.

Joe Mama

September 23rd, 2011
10:59 am

HL & S — “The WORST part is that NONE of those candidates had the decency to back those bigots in the crowd down, nor even THANK the soldier for his service.”

THIS.

I don’t care if a guy is a raging white supremacist; if he’s served our country in uniform, he deserves my thanks and appreciation for that.

What he deserves for his personal beliefs is another thing entirely, but he deserves thanks and appreciation for his military service, if nothing else.

Bosch

September 23rd, 2011
10:59 am

When the people expressed gleeful joy at the idea of someone dying of cancer who isn’t insured, did the candidates say anything?

I don’t watch these debates, I’d rather have bamboo shoved under my toe nails.

Peter

September 23rd, 2011
10:59 am

Start a made up War and allow Gays to die, and boo them for it…….sounds wonderful !

This will really tell all the basic attitude of the Right wing……. These folks are Religious I am sure, and tells us Religion is really meaningless..Just a way to attack folks.

jt

September 23rd, 2011
11:00 am

The size of the arms on that dude was troubling.
Call me a bigot or something but I am more comfortable with the George Michael type gay.
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Be that as it may, with Ron Paul as president….we wouldn’t have this issue.
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He has “out-peaced” you hypocritical war-lust progressives.

Joe Mama

September 23rd, 2011
11:00 am

GLL — “So you are dictating what the candidates should say? Can I dictate what Obama should say?”

They can say — or not say — whatever they want.

And I can *judge* them on what they say — and what they don’t say.

Next?

Hook, Line, and Sinker

September 23rd, 2011
11:01 am

Pretty weak GLL.

Granny Godzilla

September 23rd, 2011
11:02 am

Two weeks ago the GOP audience cheered executions

Last week they cheered letting the unisured die.

This week they boo an America hero.

Yes, it’s class warfare. They lack it.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:02 am

Hook, Line, and Sinker

Do you know anything about politics? And strangely enough, I don’t ever remember Obama scolding his audience about anything. Hell, he didn’t even scold the union thug for saying that they are going to “take out” the tea Party after calling them SOBs.

Thomas

September 23rd, 2011
11:02 am

I would not put it past a passionate lib to heckle for purposes of smearing the candidates and providing folks like Jay have something to write about. Likewise, I could see the reverse happening.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:03 am

Joe Mama

Do you have a problem with Obama saying nothing to the union thug for calling Americans SOBs?

Joe the Plutocrat

September 23rd, 2011
11:04 am

the whole episode is indefensible, and as I said, if Santorum hasn’t withrawn from the race this morning, he needs to tender his resignation immediately. he is a shallow, pathetic, cowardly, un-American fool.

Joe Mama

September 23rd, 2011
11:05 am

GLL — “Do you have a problem with Obama saying nothing to the union thug for calling Americans SOBs?”

Do you have a problem with a sitting member of Congress saying “You lie!” to the President during the SOTU?

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
11:05 am

The size of the arms on that dude was troubling.
Call me a bigot or something but I am more comfortable with the George Michael type gay.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

One of the people commenting on CNN mentioned his arm size too. Most servicepeople engage in daily PT to stay at their peak performance level. I don’t think it matters whether they’re male, female, straight, or gay. While they’re in the sandbox, I don’t think they have too many other outlets other than exercise.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:06 am

Bro

Same example as I’ve been using, but Obama never said a word about the union thug calling Americans SOBs. Set up whatever standards you feel comfortable with for our political candidates, but try to apply those standards to your own leaders. .

getalife

September 23rd, 2011
11:06 am

Unacceptable behavior and not one candidate stood up for that soldier.

More proof the right is unpatriotic.

(ir)Rational

September 23rd, 2011
11:06 am

I don’t personally put much stock in what the audiences do, for the reason that Thomas just stated. There is no way to figure out who it is that is entering these debates for the audience. The fact that none of the candidates said anything? (I have no speakers, so I can’t watch it with audio) That’s pretty lame, but at the same time, that is the state of American politics today.

Normal

September 23rd, 2011
11:07 am

This is just so much crap. let the Tea drinkers and right wing Republicans own it. That soldier has more guts than the they do, combined.

The people who are afraid of Gays aare afraid they might be one.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:08 am

Joe Mama

“Do you have a problem with a sitting member of Congress saying “You lie!” to the President during the SOTU?”

How many times did the Republican apologize? How many fellow Republicans called him on what he said? I thought it was disrespectful and so did most Republicans and they let it be known.

getalife

September 23rd, 2011
11:08 am

If the gop do not have the guts to stand up for this soldier, they are too weak to hold any office.

Weak and unpatriotic.

St Simons - we're on Island time

September 23rd, 2011
11:08 am

To the Good Host, I think you might be trying to do what my lovely wife tries to do in Hospital Administration – shame Them.

And as I often tell her, it doesn’t work. You can’t shame Them. Certainly this does not apply to all conservatives, but that group that acts this way – feels no shame or remorse. If I were Them, I wouldn’t want to believe in Evolution either.

In catch-up reading, a few conservatives on this blog – jm, ir(R), bada, have even made me reconsider some of my proletariat positions. But to that other group, the fringe, I say, “gooooo dawgs & DNA recombination! sic em woof woof”

Bosch

September 23rd, 2011
11:09 am

GLL,

The guy the audience booed was an American, the guy that the audience cheered would die of cancer was an American, the guy executed was an American.

Don’t use the label “American” to only include those you like while ignoring the others.

jewcowboy

September 23rd, 2011
11:09 am

No…but Marcus Bachmann offered “personal” one-on-one help. He offered to get to the bottom of the issue, even if it took many long sweaty sessions.

jt

September 23rd, 2011
11:09 am

Brosephus™ – Browning America Since 1973
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Scary.
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I honestly believe that it was an optical illusion.
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If not………….somebody needs to check those MREs.

ty webb

September 23rd, 2011
11:10 am

Jay wasserman-schultz,
“if”? You libs and your hypotheticals. I’ll play though. “If” kelly had asked a question about DADT(which I personally disagree with) and a small few audience members boo’ed(braking news! republicans for the most part agree with DADT, though a democrat signed it into law) would your headline be “Blonde news anchor booed at GOP debate”?

They BOTH suck

September 23rd, 2011
11:10 am

GLL

So Obama being wrong about an issue means that someone else doing wrong on a totally differnt issue justifies a pass?

Pointing out standards is great… so let’s read where you condemn what happend last night, so we can see you living the standard you wish for others to uphold

mm

September 23rd, 2011
11:10 am

” I don’t want them to be poor and uneducated. That’s why I’m a Republican.”

Did you actually type that without laughing? Is that why you support the party that has cut education all across the country to pay for tax cuts for corporations?

I don’t know why they keep subjecting the country to these rightwng morons. They never have anything truthful or of value to say. The questions are a joke, and the answers are a bigger joke. They should just ask a question and play back a recording.

Let’s have a debate where Bill Maher gets to ask them questions. Better yet, Thom Hartmann.

Hook, Line, and Sinker

September 23rd, 2011
11:10 am

Good little liberal
September 23rd, 2011
11:02 am
Hook, Line, and Sinker
Do you know anything about politics? And strangely enough, I don’t ever remember Obama scolding his audience about anything. Hell, he didn’t even scold the union thug for saying that they are going to “take out” the tea Party after calling them SOBs.

Was Obama being directly asked a question, on stage at a podium, when Hoffa said this? No. If by “polictics” you mean pandering to the bigots in your party, then no, I know nothing about politics.

Bosch

September 23rd, 2011
11:10 am

“The people who are afraid of Gays aare afraid they might be one”

That’s always been my opinion too Normal.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
11:11 am

Set up whatever standards you feel comfortable with for our political candidates, but try to apply those standards to your own leaders.

As an absolute non-believer in EITHER party, I take actions of all candidates into mind when I make my decisions. I don’t see a my candidate/your candidate distinction. Thanks for the suggestion though, but it’s something I’ve done since I started voting.

Trotsky Foxtrot

September 23rd, 2011
11:11 am

Like I said here last night, a pack of ghouls (Huntsman excepted) seeking to run a ghoulish party.

iRun

September 23rd, 2011
11:11 am

Wow, that gay military servicemember looked like he could kick some butt, eh? See those guns?

jewcowboy

September 23rd, 2011
11:12 am

Santorum 2012 – A frothy mix for America.

mm

September 23rd, 2011
11:13 am

Jay,

It’s pathetic how the righties try to defend the boos last night. With some of the lies being told by the repugs, you would think they are being waterboarded.

Brad Steel

September 23rd, 2011
11:13 am

Did the video cut-out before the audience started hurling feces?

Jay

September 23rd, 2011
11:14 am

Ty, I see you have no compunction about venturing into Absurdville if it helps you avoid a hard question.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:14 am

Bosch

I’m not ignoring anyone. I’m also not responsible for what people in an audience do. My point is that liberals here today seem to be shocked that the candidates did not scold some in the audience for booing the gay soldier.

I’m pointing out the double standard. It’s OK for Obama to let the “Take the SOBs out” comment go without any sort of admonishment, but the fact that the Republican candidates didn’t scold the audience in a political debate for a few people booing is living proof that Republicans are scum.

They BOTH suck

September 23rd, 2011
11:14 am

GLL

Hypocrisy in politics doesn’t know Ds or Rs……… It rains down daily from all sides…. On any given issue we could argue the degree of who is worse, but in the end it is pervasive…… period

Open your eyes… each side will call out the other for something they themselves do daily..

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
11:14 am

jt

It’s not an optical illusion. I see soldiers and contractors coming home on a daily basis. I wonder if GNC is supplying MRE’s now or something. Some of the contractors come back looking like that. They make me feel bad for not being a complete gym rat.

Joe the Plutocrat

September 23rd, 2011
11:14 am

and god bless wikipedia. i just learned that BOTH of Santorum’s parents worked for the Veteran’s Administration. in fact, as a child, his family lived in federally provided housing (on site at a VA facility in WV). the audacity of this “moocher” and voracious consumer of the re-distributed wealth of hardworking American taxpayerts is amazing.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
11:15 am

Santorum 2012 – A frothy mix for America.

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:15 am

Hook, Line, and Sinker

A Democrat trying to preach to a Republican about bigots?

Really?

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:17 am

They BOTH suck

I don’t think that I am the one that needs to open their eyes, considering that what you said is the exact point that I am making.

Trotsky Foxtrot

September 23rd, 2011
11:17 am

Rick Sanatorium, like the rest of them, ought to be ashamed of himself.

Do these people even know what shame is?

Edward

September 23rd, 2011
11:17 am

Why do conservatives always ALWAYS act like schoolyard bullies? When they are confronted on their despicable behavior, they ALWAYS resort to the “but but but HE did it, too!” defense. I don’t give a crap who did what when, when you do something despicable, YOU should apologize for it, not defend it.
And for the record, is Santorum really asking that ALL servicemembers keep their sexual orientation a secret? So no wives or girlfriends can be mentioned else you’re kicked to the curb? No fraternizing with ANYONE EVER? Yeah, I didn’t think so. Just another bigot wrapping himself in the flag and carrying a cross.

They BOTH suck

September 23rd, 2011
11:17 am

Joe

No need to worry about Santorum….. He is not even on the other challengers radar, so you know he is not on Obama’s

Granny Godzilla

September 23rd, 2011
11:17 am

From a Steve Benen piece:

Paul Begala added, “As happened in previous debates, the audience in the Fox News/Google debate stole the show — and shocked the conscience. When a gay soldier asked a question, the audience booed. They booed a man who is risking his life for their freedom. Rarely have I seen a more unpatriotic public display…. I may start a betting pool on what the Republicans will boo in the next debate: puppies? Ronald Reagan? Ronald Reagan’s puppies?”

Aquagirl

September 23rd, 2011
11:17 am

Marcus Bachmann offered “personal” one-on-one help. He offered to get to the bottom of the issue, even if it took many long sweaty sessions.

jewcowboy, LOL of the day!

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:18 am

Trotsky Foxtrot

Shame is supporting a political party that makes its living by promoting programs that produce generational poverty for millions of Americans. That’s what shame is.

Joe the Plutocrat

September 23rd, 2011
11:18 am

Gll, please spit the Kool-Aid out, or swallow it. there are legions of conservatives who found Santorum’s comments to be insulting to ALL men and women serving in the armed forces. the fact that you feel obligated to defend him, or ignore the audience is evidence of absolute lack of critical thinking/free thinking that enables the status quo. at the very least say; “he’s not a viable candidate; I’m sure glad they didn’t ask Perry or Romney…”

Jay

September 23rd, 2011
11:19 am

As you probably know, GLL, you are badly mischaracterizing Hoffa’s statement. He made it quite clear that he was advocating taking them out THROUGH THE BALLOT BOX. No other interpretation is possible.

“Everybody here has a vote. If we go back and we keep the eye on the prize, let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to America where we belong.”

Everybody here has a vote. Not a gun, not a knife, not a baseball bat. A vote. Either you are unaware of the full quote in question, or you have consciously chosen to lie and deceive in hopes of scoring political points.

Which is it?

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:19 am

Edward

“And for the record, is Santorum really asking that ALL servicemembers keep their sexual orientation a secret?”

Do you discuss your sexual habits with your co-workers?

They BOTH suck

September 23rd, 2011
11:20 am

GLL

Exactly what I thought…. You want the left to condenm Obama or other Democrats actions that arae out of line, but you are not so quick to do the same when BS comes from the right…..

You must live on a one way street… No problem if you do. That is your right, but it speaks volumes.

People on all sides will see and hear what they want to hear and justify what they want to justify to convince themselves they have the “facts” on their side…

Its OK, GLL…….. bothsides are guilty

(ir)Rational

September 23rd, 2011
11:20 am

I don’t want to know what kind of frothy mix Santorum is supposed to be. Make me lose my appetite.

St. Simons – Not sure what I’ve done to change your opinion, but you still seem to be a U(sic)GA fan, so I’ve failed on that front. I’ll have to try harder.

getalife

September 23rd, 2011
11:21 am

The only accountability for the gop unpatriotic behavior since they lost to our President is this election to make them lose bigger this time.

Your call America.

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:21 am

Jay

Sons of bitches. That’s nice. Maybe a little more confrontational and demeaning that a few people in an audience booing a gay soldier.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
11:21 am

GLL

The one weak spot in your point is the fact that previous rhetorical bombs have been directed at opposition party members in general, whether it was the quote you’re calling Obama out about or if it was Palin’s “Don’t retreat, reload” comment. This incident was a few jackasses booing a service member who’s sitting in the middle of a war zone. That’s something that ALL Americans should condemn, as rightfully members of the audience did on the spot. It has nothing to do with Left/Right in this incident, as we should all support our military personnel in war zones regardless of what they do in their personal lives.

jt

September 23rd, 2011
11:21 am

Brosephus™
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Don’t feel bad dude…….don’t be a gym rat. The only people that gain from that are the ones that are trolling for mates.)
A healthy body consists of eating right.Big is not necessarilly healthy…….In fact.. probably isn’t.
Wiry guys like Ron Paul could take any puffed-up guy.(a matter of speed and endurance).
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It was wrong to boo a soldier……but no one will ever know who did.
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Eat your greens…chop wood occassionally…..and be happy with the guns that God gave ye.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

September 23rd, 2011
11:22 am

Now the GOP hates the military, you guys are reaching farther and farther, it’s getting funny now, almost as desperate as the Braves are right now…

When liberals start making these kind of ludicrous accusations they lose more ane more votes, keep it up guys!!!

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:22 am

They Both Suck

I agreed with you, but apparently, you had to do a little preaching.

Bosch

September 23rd, 2011
11:23 am

“I see you have no compunction about venturing into Absurdville if it helps you avoid a hard question”

Apparently Jay, so does GLL

WOODSTOCK MIKE

September 23rd, 2011
11:23 am

Guess what, there are many Democrats that serve in the military that didn’t want to serve with gays… How do you guys answer that one?

jewcowboy

September 23rd, 2011
11:23 am

Good little liberal,

“Do you discuss your sexual habits with your co-workers?”

Straight people show their sexual orientation everyday day without thinking about because they don’t have to think about it. When you carry a picture of your partner in your wallet or put one on your desk you are announcing your orientation. When you put your emergency contact as your partner when HR asks, you are announcing your orientation.

There are a million ways straight people announce their sexual orientation to the world that are hammered onto gay people daily. What’s wrong with a little equality?

Aquagirl

September 23rd, 2011
11:23 am

Do you discuss your sexual habits with your co-workers?

I certainly discussed my choice of sexual partners with the military when I applied for off-post housing and a thousand other benefits. I also didn’t studiously avoid any mention of my husband, ever, in any conversation.

getalife

September 23rd, 2011
11:23 am

Instead of reaching for excuses for your failed party, how about standing up for this soldier cons.

Trotsky Foxtrot

September 23rd, 2011
11:24 am

Woodstock Mike: “Guess what, there are many Democrats that serve in the military that didn’t want to serve with gays… How do you guys answer that one?”

Yeah and they would have been marginalized by their party, rather than having their views embraced by the party. What of it?

Good little liberal

September 23rd, 2011
11:24 am

Bro

I’m pointing out the double standard. I know that no one wants such things pointed out. Both parties want to think that they own the high ground, but we both know that in politics, the high ground is still a swamp.

Brosephus™ - Browning America Since 1973

September 23rd, 2011
11:25 am

(ir)

Don’t google his name then. I made that bad mistake last night after reading a story on the WaPo.

jt

I gave up my gym membership a while back. That money is better used to provide food and/or toys for some needy family at Christmas or other charitable deeds.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

September 23rd, 2011
11:25 am

Love how Democrats say they love the Americans that serve in the US military but they sure as hell don’t stand behind the soldiers fighting for our country, which one is it you fake military lovers??

Joe the Plutocrat

September 23rd, 2011
11:25 am

They BOTH suck, agreed, and what I find amusing is how the GOP base ignores Ron Paul and Gary Johnson (both true fiscal conservatives), or dismisses them as “loons” and “crazy uncles” and yet they fail to see how allowing Santorum to answer the “do you still beat your children” question damages their hopes of unseating Obama in 2012. the whole process is amazing; the party trots out these demagogues and theocrats to court an intellectually challenged minority (Christian right, Tea Party, etc.) and in doing so, they drive middle of the road and independent/undecided voters to the left. it’s like they unconciously WANT Obama to win, because they will have for more years of complaining