Government shutdown again looms as possibility

Another government shutdown crisis?

Really?

It’s hard to conceive of a better way to shatter what little faith remains in Washington. And of course, for some people that may be just the point.

By a margin of 195-230, the U.S. House yesterday rejected a continuing resolution needed to fund the government beyond Sept. 30, when the fiscal year ends. Most House Democrats voted against the resolution because they oppose deep cuts made in other programs to fund emergency-relief measures, arguing that such cuts in rough economic times will cost thousands of jobs.

Conversely, a group of almost 50 Republicans voted against the bill — against pleas from their own leadership — because in their eyes it didn’t cut deep enough. In fact, they insist that their party’s leadership break the spending deal that was agreed to just last month with the Senate and President Obama.

U.S. Rep. Tom Graves of Georgia was one of the leaders in that conservative effort, which was joined by Reps. Austin Scott and Paul Broun.

Somewhere, House Speaker John Boehner has to find 23 more votes for the measure. As the Washington Post notes:

To pass a bill, House leaders will have to rewrite the measure to appease either Democrats or the more conservative wing of their own party. They must send a bill to the Senate for approval before the fiscal year ends Sept. 30. Otherwise, the government will shut down.

The temporary measure is necessary because the House and Senate have failed to agree on appropriations bills to fund government for the whole fiscal year. The stopgap is designed to buy time for negotiations to continue when the fiscal year ends.

And if the House somehow manages to pass the measure, it must then be adopted by the Senate. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said his chamber won’t accept the changes being demanded by conservative House members, meaning a shutdown is at least plausible.

““The tea-party-driven House of Representatives has been so unreasonable in the past, I don’t know why they should suddenly be reasonable,” he told reporters.

– Jay Bookman

378 comments Add your comment

Steve - USA

September 22nd, 2011
8:06 am

TaxPayer

September 22nd, 2011
8:09 am

Tom Graves. Where have I heard that name before.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:11 am

Jay, This is why these scumbags are despised by the majority of Americans.

Granny Godzilla

September 22nd, 2011
8:15 am

Great job by Nancy Pelosi.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:15 am

After reading this blog for a couple of years it would be interesting to see if anyone on here would compromise for the good of the whole.

Granny Godzilla

September 22nd, 2011
8:17 am

poison pen

we did. that time is over.

Gale

September 22nd, 2011
8:20 am

Why is it when most people use the word compromise, they mean ‘do it my way’? I think the politicians can no longer be honest enough to just come out ande say things straight.

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
8:21 am

It’s hard to conceive of a better way to shatter what little faith remains in Washington. And of course, for some people that may be just the point.

may be?

TaxPayer

September 22nd, 2011
8:21 am

After reading this blog for a couple of years it would be interesting to see if anyone on here would compromise for the good of the whole.

You mean as in implementing a combination of spending cuts and tax hikes in order to get our nation’s fiscal house back in order? Sure. I’ll go for that.

Jm

September 22nd, 2011
8:21 am

No surprise

The government is inept. These budgets should’ve been passed long ago

Oh yes. And then there’s that obvious take away that current congresses cannot fiscally bind future congresses

Cutting spending now makes sense if Obama won’t do entitlement reform

Steve - USA

September 22nd, 2011
8:22 am

poison pen – the problem is people don’t agree to what the solution should be.

I personally don’t believe Democrats or Republicans are out to destroy America as some claim. I think both sides believe in their heart they are right.

King of All

September 22nd, 2011
8:22 am

Those scumbags were voted in by the majority (if you believe this is a democracy)

Atlas Shrugging

September 22nd, 2011
8:22 am

Pen

The hate that spewed by these DEM-wits and REP-ugnants in Jay’s blog make Washington look like a love fest in comparison…soooooo your answer is NO, they wouldn’t compromise for the good of the whole….

ty webb

September 22nd, 2011
8:22 am

I smell an “extra super duper committee” coming…that should fix it.

Jm

September 22nd, 2011
8:23 am

Yeah, Harry reid’s measure of “reasonable” is the true yardstick by which we should all measure such things

Eye roll

Peadawg - Troy Davis should NOT have been executed

September 22nd, 2011
8:23 am

So most Democrat and some GOP members in the House are against spending cuts. Interesting…

So which one is the party of NO this time. Both?

Aquagirl

September 22nd, 2011
8:23 am

The teanuts have grabbed another hostage. Who elected these maroons?

Mudfoot

September 22nd, 2011
8:24 am

“After reading this blog for a couple of years it would be interesting to see if anyone on here would compromise for the good of the whole.”

You mean like offering 10 to 1 spending cuts to revenue?

Trotsky Radio

September 22nd, 2011
8:25 am

Yet another step in the country’s descent into full-blown ungovernability. Perhaps some really serious social disturbances would focus these people’s minds.

King of All

September 22nd, 2011
8:25 am

The #1 priority is not to fix the economy or lower unemployment, but to make him a 1 term President.

Doggone/GA

September 22nd, 2011
8:25 am

“So most Democrat and some GOP members in the House are against spending cuts. Interesting”

And wrong. That is not even close to what Jay wrote

Joe The Plumber too.

September 22nd, 2011
8:28 am

Don’t worry aqua, in sixteen months barry can pack his bags and get on with his next career and the country can start healing, this pretender in chief has done enough damage.

Brosephus™ - Disliking Politicians Since 1973

September 22nd, 2011
8:28 am

I guess the downgrade to AA wasn’t enough to let the jackasses know that their theatrics are not what we want or need. Sad part is that most of them there will get re-elected by the same dumbasses who claim to dislike Congress so much right now.

Jm

September 22nd, 2011
8:28 am

Politico: “the consensus is that the odds of democrats winning the house have never been longer”

Buck up dems. Your tax and spend party will be so far in the minority there won’t be the need for compromise

You can compromise and learn some fiscal responsibility. Or get stuck in the small irrelevant minority category for a while

JohnnyReb

September 22nd, 2011
8:29 am

Old Harry never misses an opportunity to slam the Tea Party although his chamber is only mildly infected up-to-now.

Jm

September 22nd, 2011
8:31 am

Americans like the tea party

Reid would be smart to shut up and stop slamming them

Granny Godzilla

September 22nd, 2011
8:32 am

“mildly infected”

apropos

TaxPayer

September 22nd, 2011
8:32 am

The Republicans are responsible for getting something passed in the House and they apparently are not up to the task of getting so much as a simple majority. Boehner just lacks leadership skills.

Peadawg - Troy Davis should NOT have been executed

September 22nd, 2011
8:32 am

“And wrong. That is not even close to what Jay wrote” – My bad…the 50 Republicans voted against it b/c it didn’t cut deep enough.

“Most House Democrats voted against the resolution because they oppose deep cuts made in other programs to fund emergency-relief measures” – How would you take that, Doggone? I take it as they’re opposed to spending cuts.

Are we ever going to come to a conclusion of higher taxes plus deep cuts? Anyone? Bueller?

Good Little Liberal

September 22nd, 2011
8:32 am

Jay

I’ve got nothing but love for you, buddy. If you want me to change my name, I will.

Just give me the word. And don’t worry, it will be completely boring and non-confrontational.

Since I play piano, how about “keys” or “Magic Fingers”.

But between you and me, I don’t think it’s the name that bothers “stands”.

Trotsky Radio

September 22nd, 2011
8:33 am

Jm: “Americans like the tea party”

Oh really? :)

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
8:34 am

Perhaps some really serious social disturbances would focus these people’s minds.

ooh ooooh ooooooh you liberals advocate VIOLENCE and I am telling!

Americans like the tea party

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html

In April 2010, a New York Times/CBS News survey found that 18 percent of Americans had an unfavorable opinion of it, 21 percent had a favorable opinion and 46 percent had not heard enough. Now, 14 months later, Tea Party supporters have slipped to 20 percent, while their opponents have more than doubled, to 40 percent.

Oh yeah, America thinks the Teanuts are fab!

curious

September 22nd, 2011
8:34 am

Withdraw ALL US forces from overseas. Use them here. I’d rather have a large well trained Military here rather than Germany, Japan, Korea, etc.. This isn’t the Old west where we needed a Fort everywhere. With our technology, where’s the threat? Surely not a bunch of guys in 17th Century Afghanistan.

Impose significant import taxes on any goods shipped to this Country.
Let’s encourage folks to make stuff in this country. We didn’t import everything in the 50’s and 60’s.
Those actions alone would begin the economic recovery.

Brosephus™ - Disliking Politicians Since 1973

September 22nd, 2011
8:35 am

You can compromise and learn some fiscal responsibility. Or get stuck in the small irrelevant minority category for a while

Learn fiscal responsibility from who? The GOP? C’mon man!!

“With defense (cuts), for example, you’ve got high unemployment of returning veterans to begin with,” Kyl said at last week’s hearing. “You have reduction in end strength. You’ve got more people potentially unemployed. You got people making radios and building ships and so on. And if those cuts, therefore, end up reducing the employment in those industries and the amount of money spent in those areas, obviously it could delay economic recovery.” — Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/defense-cuts-could-lead-to-military-draft-house-armed-services-chairman-says/2011/09/20/gIQAQAjyhK_blog.html

Republicans talk a good game about fiscal responsibility and all, but when the rubber hits the road, they are no different from the “tax and spend” Democrats. If you think otherwise, you’re only fooling yourself. Budget cuts everywhere else will somehow aid the economy and speed up recovery, but if you cut the defense budget it will slow down recovery??? That’s Pure BS!!!

carlosgvv

September 22nd, 2011
8:36 am

If the Govt. does shut down, it will probably last for a couple of weeks. Then a grudging compromise will be made, and the political anger, bitterness and name calling will be louder and harsher than ever. The only solution I see is to vote ALL of them out of office and hope the next cast of characters will be better. And yes, I know that is an extremely small hope.

Granny Godzilla

September 22nd, 2011
8:37 am

Jm

Must disagree.

The Tea Party has about 2 minutes left of their 15, and the “slamming”
as you call it must continue and in fact grow stronger.

Doggone/GA

September 22nd, 2011
8:37 am

You wrote: “So most Democrat and some GOP members in the House are against spending cuts. Interesting

Jay wrote: “Conversely, a group of almost 50 Republicans voted against the bill — against pleas from their own leadership — because in their eyes it didn’t cut deep enough. In fact, they insist that their party’s leadership break the spending deal that was agreed to just last month with the Senate and President Obama”

So it is WRONG to say some GOP members are AGAINST spending cuts.

TaxPayer

September 22nd, 2011
8:38 am

I heard that the tea party tools don’t think Boehner is capable of leading the House either. They’re ready to replace him. They should promote someone like Graves or Price or Broun for the job. HeHeHe

Graves would take care of our debt with a simple, “they were stupid enough to loan us the money,” while Price would go into an endless diatribe consisting of “I Object,” until he bored everyone into just giving up and walking away and Broun would sprinkle holy water on everyone until they recanted or drowned. It’s torture, I tells ya.

Joe the Plutocrat

September 22nd, 2011
8:41 am

you know, the more we keep hearing about a “government shutdown” the more appealing the idea. as we all know from history, a government shutdown will be felt most by the oligarchs and plutocrats.

Aquagirl

September 22nd, 2011
8:41 am

in sixteen months barry can pack his bags and get on with his next career and the country can start healing

In case you hadn’t noticed, Joe, this is a problem with CONGRESS. I know that whole different branches of gub’mint idea is tough to grasp if you slept through every single Civics class, so you may as well blame that on Obama too.

Joe the Plutocrat

September 22nd, 2011
8:41 am

you know, the more we keep hearing about a “government shutdown” the more appealing the idea. as we all know from history, a government shutdown will be felt most by the oligarchs and plutocrats.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:41 am

Brosephus™ – Disliking Politicians Since 1973

” I guess the downgrade to AA wasn’t enough to let the jackasses know that their theatrics are not what we want or need. Sad part is that most of them there will get re-elected by the same dumbasses who claim to dislike Congress so much right now.”

SoCoBroBrownDislike, Hey Bro, aren’t you the one who said ” let’s get all the Fuc**ng old people out and let the young ones run the country”

When you only have a choice of two ( 2 ) to pick from the pickins are slim my friend.

Joe the Plutocrat

September 22nd, 2011
8:41 am

my post was so profound and brilliant, it appears twice!

mystified

September 22nd, 2011
8:42 am

” The reports” of the imminent” death “of the Tea Party” are greatly exaggerated. …It’s nice to talk about dreams but until you can back it up showing democrat or liberal republican gains…your dreaming.

Mick

September 22nd, 2011
8:42 am

joe the plumber

As if everything can be tagged to obama, only in your simple world. Remember, congress makes laws the executive enforces the laws. By the way your role model was a fraud, his name wasn’t joe and he wasn’t a licensed plumber…

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
8:43 am

how about “keys” or “Magic Fingers”.

I think the latter name is awesome. um, a quarter for your thoughts?

ty webb

September 22nd, 2011
8:43 am

“Perhaps some really serious social disturbances would focus these people’s minds.”

Oh pretty please…I could really use some quality entertainment, and there’s nothing more enjoyable than watching a few underachievers getting cracked in the head with police batons…I’ll bring the popcorn.

Jm

September 22nd, 2011
8:43 am

Granny 8:37 that’s fine. Continue.

And see the results in 2012

Brosephus™ - Disliking Politicians Since 1973

September 22nd, 2011
8:44 am

pp

Yep, that was me. I’ve also been talking to young people to get them more involved in politics too. The more young people get engaged, the more opportunities we’ll begin to see with young people running for office. I’m gonna be a one man revolution.

No offense to common sense thinking older people though. :)

Peadawg - Troy Davis should NOT have been executed

September 22nd, 2011
8:44 am

“So it is WRONG to say some GOP members are AGAINST spending cuts.” – I fixed that @ 8:32. My bad.

What about the Democrats though, Doggone? Would you come to the conclusion that the majority of them (the ones who voted against this bill) are against spending cuts?

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:44 am

Aquagirl, Clinton was able to motivate & work with Congress, so why can’t Obama? It’s not all Congress fault, although a large portion is.

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
8:46 am

” The reports” of the imminent” death “of the Tea Party” are greatly exaggerated. …

True. As the socialist hippie rabbi said: “The stupid you will have with you always.”

Mick

September 22nd, 2011
8:47 am

poison

Yeah right, they loved him so much – they impeached him!

TaxPayer

September 22nd, 2011
8:48 am

Republicans have the majority in the House. They do not need Democrats, they just need to agree amongst themselves. Boehner is an ineffective leader of the House majority and the tea party tools know it and are looking for a replacement because that will fix everything. HeHeHe

Yeah, its ALL, the repubs fault...

September 22nd, 2011
8:48 am

“The temporary measure is necessary because the House and Senate have failed to agree on appropriations bills to fund government for the whole fiscal year. The stopgap is designed to buy time for negotiations to continue when the fiscal year ends”

.So Democratic like: “And if the House somehow manages to pass the measure, it must then be adopted by the Senate. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said his chamber won’t accept the changes being demanded by conservative House members, meaning a shutdown is at least plausible.

““The tea-party-driven House of Representatives has been so unreasonable in the past, I don’t know why they should suddenly be reasonable,” he told reporters.

Really, Harry, what is wrong with you

USMC

September 22nd, 2011
8:48 am

The JAY BOOKMAN School of Socialism/Bolshevism:

Let’s keep SPENDING other people’s money like drunken sailors.
We can just soak the “Rich” for more money when we need it.
It’s our “right” in the Bolshevik SOCIAL contract that we keep pushing.
SOCIAL JUSTICE! YAY!

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
8:48 am

Clinton was able to motivate & work with Congress, so why can’t Obama?

A lot of things have deteriorated since Clinton. Starting with the retirement of most of the remaining rational Republicans, who don’t actually profess a hatred of government.

Throw in a radical right-wing Supreme court and you’ve got all the fixin’s.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 22nd, 2011
8:50 am

If the mantra is that the ONLY option of this country is that NON-MILITARY SPENDING CUTS must be made in part to pay for emergency repairs to infrastructure, roads to the factories and markets and to help people in disaster and that this country cannot RAISE TAXES or eliminate tax credits or deductions or business programs to pay for this, then CALL THE REPUBLICAN STUPIDITY out. Hit them hard, hit them often in speeches and the bully pulpit and lets shut down the government and the entire country until we have a vote to see if we are going to follow the STUPID and the TEA NUTs or are we going to stand for the compassionate and fair country that leads the world.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:50 am

Mick

poison

” Yeah right, they loved him so much – they impeached him”

Mick, Why did he get impeached??? it wasn’t because he worked with Congress. duh!

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
8:51 am

It’s our “right” in the Bolshevik SOCIAL contract

Did someone just slip a coloring-book edition of The Communist Manifesto to our “USMC” last week? Is that why allah sudden everything/everyone is all Commiefied, in his eyes?

Adam

September 22nd, 2011
8:51 am

On topic: This is completely ridiculous to even talk about. There is no hostage to take, so no way the Republicans can simply force something they want (if they think they can win with this whole “cuts for aid” business they really are far gone). They probably won’t shut down the government, but if they do it will work in Obama’s favor because he’s out promoting his jobs plan and the kids burnt the house down while he was gone.

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
8:51 am

Why did he get impeached?

Because radical right wingers decided to seriously dumb down the meaning of “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Mick

September 22nd, 2011
8:52 am

usmc

Why are you so late to the party? We were spending like drunken corpsman during the previous president – nary a peep? Why now? Could it be….obama??

Kamchak

September 22nd, 2011
8:52 am

Sad part is that most of them there will get re-elected by the same dumbasses who claim to dislike Congress so much right now.

I loves me some irony in the morning.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:52 am

Stands, With attitudes like yours nothing will ever get done, always blame the other guy, my guy is always 100% right, Really!

Thomas

September 22nd, 2011
8:52 am

It is amazing to see such a small, meaningless group (the Tea Party) become the fear of seemingly everyone. Are they that strong or are they simply being enabled?

Aquagirl

September 22nd, 2011
8:52 am

Clinton was able to motivate & work with Congress, so why can’t Obama?

Clinton didn’t have to deal with teanuts like Tom Graves, who believes in fiscal responsibility for everyone but himself.

Steve - USA

September 22nd, 2011
8:53 am

I am feeling the love today for mankind, even the crazy extremists. :)

Is there anything we can agree on? How about cutting the Post Office back to 5 day delivery? Can we start there? C’mon there must be some change we can agree on.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:53 am

Aqua, Clinton had the same kind of people to deal with, your memory is failing.

Mick

September 22nd, 2011
8:54 am

pen

They hated his guts, duh!! Almost two years of media garbage, nice work for a consential affair, what a waste….

Thomas

September 22nd, 2011
8:54 am

Clinton didn’t have to deal with teanuts like Tom Graves

too funny- yes, Clinton, as everyone remembers, was loved by everyone. hmmmm- I seem to recall one Newt Gingrich who didn’t drink scotch and play poker with Clinton. He did like his women though.

1811/0311

September 22nd, 2011
8:55 am

““The tea-party-driven House of Representatives has been so unreasonable in the past, I don’t know why they should suddenly be reasonable,” he told reporters.”

King George thought they were unreasonable too ………………………

By the way:

“GALLUP: More Voters Considering Romney Than Obama, Perry”

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:55 am

Steve, Don’t expect any change on this site, your either for one extreme or the other, but never in the middle.

Paul

September 22nd, 2011
8:55 am

Democrats will vote for cuts in programs important to them. Not, as noted, deep cuts. And not cuts only in programs they hold dear without considering cuts important to Republicans.

Republicans, on the other hand, will not even discuss giving up even a teeny, tiny little bit of what they hold dear.

So…. who’s holding things up?

Bosch

September 22nd, 2011
8:56 am

Yawn. This show is boring.

Mick

September 22nd, 2011
8:57 am

Steve – no problem, I can do without saturday mail. Sometimes, no news is good news…

Jm

September 22nd, 2011
8:57 am

Aquagirl

Yeah right Clinton just had cocktails with the republicans every night and it was a jovial ole time back in the 90’s

More revisionist liberal history

Jm

September 22nd, 2011
8:58 am

Jobless claims down

Housing sales up

And the fed prints more and Obama wants to spend more

Say what?

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
8:59 am

Stands, I’m glad that you showed us that you don’t have a problem with purgery, it goes to your upbringing.

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
8:59 am

With attitudes like yours nothing will ever get done, always blame the other guy, my guy is always 100% right, Really!

hell’s bells, I’ve been all over pragmatic compromise. I’d have been happy with a strong public option that was only available to a small percentage of Americans, rather than single payer–but we had to compromise a LOT more to get the ACA passed. I’d have been happy with the modest Recovery Act funds going entirely to spending, rather than some of it to tax cuts/credits, but we had to compromise to get the Recovery Act passed.

I just don’t see the mainstream of current Republican elected officials to have rational counter-proposals. They refuse to raise taxes, which is irresponsible. They appear to play brinksmanship with every single opportunity to threaten collapse, whether it’s the debt ceiling, or filibustering vast numbers of judicial appointments, or this latest nonsense.

How can you compromise with that?

Also, like Paul said, @ 8.55. more succinctly. the bastage…

Mick

September 22nd, 2011
8:59 am

jm

Why does it always have to be a liberal? Can’t you brain deads get past your sterotypes? #$%@&*

Brosephus™ - Disliking Politicians Since 1973

September 22nd, 2011
9:00 am

pp @ 8:41

I might also add that I don’t want any dumbass youngin’s in office either. They’d probably do more damage than anybody we have in office now.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
9:00 am

Jay, Hurry up and do new sheets, try Global Warming.

Granny Godzilla

September 22nd, 2011
9:00 am

Steve

Cut Saturday Mail delivery – Fine.

Increase bulkmail rates to 1st class letter rates…..

stands for decibels

September 22nd, 2011
9:01 am

I’m glad that you showed us that you don’t have a problem with purgery

Clinton didn’t commit “purgery,” or that other thing that sounds like it.

Jm

September 22nd, 2011
9:01 am

Wish I’d been short netflix….

Joe the Plutocrat

September 22nd, 2011
9:02 am

Steve USA, and let’s require retailers, fast food purveyors, catalog merchandisers to to send their “junk mail” via UPS or FedEx, right? I sometimes go three or four days without receiving ANY mail. all my bills come online (I pay likewise). probably 85% of my mail is “private sector marketing”. when did the Federal Government become shills for private enterprise?

Brosephus™ - Disliking Politicians Since 1973

September 22nd, 2011
9:03 am

Kam @ 8:52

Most of them are oblivious to their own irony.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
9:03 am

Brosephus™ – Disliking Politicians Since 1973

pp @ 8:41

” I might also add that I don’t want any dumbass youngin’s in office either. They’d probably do more damage than anybody we have in office now.”

Bro, The only problem is that we can’t give them any tests to see if they’re crazy. It’s hard enough to find 10 reasonable people on this blog, yet alone over 600 to run our govt.

Kamchak

September 22nd, 2011
9:04 am

…and it was a jovial ole time back in the 90’s

For those of us that were adults at the time, yeah.

Maybe it sucked for you because you were a child then.

Brosephus™ - Disliking Politicians Since 1973

September 22nd, 2011
9:04 am

let’s require retailers, fast food purveyors, catalog merchandisers to to send their “junk mail” via UPS or FedEx, right?

Oh noes!!! That would be job-killin’ regulation of the private sector. :)

Gator Joe

September 22nd, 2011
9:04 am

Jay,
The “Angry White Bigots’ Party” (AWBP) also known as the “Tea Party”, is at it again. The only comfort to be taken from all this, the ordinary people who are part of this movement or who unwittingly support it (some of which were affected by recent storms) will suffer along with the rest of us. I wonder if they realize, the AWBP members in Congress will never have to worry where their next 500K is coming from, and the toughest decision they make is which of their vacation homes to visit.

Dave R.

September 22nd, 2011
9:05 am

“And if the House somehow manages to pass the measure, it must then be adopted by the Senate. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said his chamber won’t accept the changes being demanded by conservative House members, meaning a shutdown is at least plausible.”

But any shutdown is going to be blamed on the GOP, when it will be the Democrat-controlled Senate that won’t pass a House bill.

Naturally.

Steve - USA

September 22nd, 2011
9:05 am

Joe – Can we compromise and use Granny’s idea about charging bulk mail at first class rates? That’s a good idea.

1811/0311

September 22nd, 2011
9:05 am

How about that Supreme Court !

Brosephus™ - Disliking Politicians Since 1973

September 22nd, 2011
9:06 am

pp

Touché!!! I can’t think of any counter for that argument.

Jekyll Hiding

September 22nd, 2011
9:06 am

Boehner can’t get his own party together, so I don’t think he will be successful in making Obama a one term president either. The Republican Presidential candidates all look like idiots by themselves, let alone together on the stage beating themselves up. Get over it people, Obama will serve another four years.

Brosephus™ - Disliking Politicians Since 1973

September 22nd, 2011
9:07 am

The “Angry White Bigots’ Party” (AWBP) also known as the “Tea Party”

C’mon man… :roll:

Adam

September 22nd, 2011
9:08 am

Jm: Americans like the tea party

False. Polls show they hate the tea party more than Muslims and Atheists.

poison pen

September 22nd, 2011
9:08 am

stands for decibels

I’m glad that you showed us that you don’t have a problem with purgery

” Clinton didn’t commit “purgery,” or that other thing that sounds like it.”

Stands, My spelling may be off, but you just showed everyone that you don’t know anything about history.

Please try Googling sometimes before you make a fool out of yourself.