Isakson, Chambliss silent on budget cuts as condition for disaster aid

Confronted with the aftermath of Hurricane Irene and with less than a billion dollars in its reserve for emergency response, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has been forced to shift resources away from long-term disaster recovery efforts in places such as Tuscaloosa, Ala., Joplin, Mo., and Ringgold, Ga. — all hit by tornadoes — to make funds available for more immediate needs in the Northeast. (Aid to individuals in those tornado-stricken areas will continue; the freeze affects projects to rebuild roads, schools and other infrastructure.

So one of the first orders of business for Congress when it returns next week will probably be the appropriation of more disaster-relief aid. House Republican leaders are still insisting — if a little less loudly than before — that such increases will have to offset by cuts elsewhere in the budget, to keep it deficit-neutral.

That hasn’t gone over well in some quarters.

“We don’t have time to wait for folks in Congress to figure out how they want to offset this stuff with the budget cuts,” New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Wednesday. “Nobody was talking about off-setting budget cuts in Joplin.”

“I would urge all my colleagues in the New Jersey delegation, doesn’t matter which party you are in, and all the rest of the folks in Congress,” Christie said. “I don’t want to hear about the fact that offsetting budget cuts have to come first, before New Jersey citizens are taken care of.”

Curious, I sent emails Tuesday to the offices of Sen. Johnny Isakson and Sen. Saxby Chambliss, asking about the status of FEMA aid to Georgia and their stance on requiring offsets as a condition for additional disaster relief.

Here’s the response from Isakson’s office:

“”We have about 30 days until the end of the federal government’s fiscal year, which is a time when budgets always run tight. Although our country has experienced Hurricane Irene on top of the tornadoes in Missouri, Georgia, Tennessee and Alabama, I am confident that the federal government will meet the needs of people, including Georgians, who were affected by tornadoes earlier this year. FEMA has always been able to manage its cash flow, and they’re managing their cash flow in this situation.”

Note the silence regarding budget offsets. I sent a followup note to Isakson’s office, again requesting the senator’s position regarding offsets. That was Tuesday afternoon. To date, no response has been received.

The exchange with Chambliss’ staff followed that same pattern. There was an initial response:

“My staff and I remain in communication with FEMA to ensure that the immediate needs of Georgians who were affected by the tornadoes this year are met. I will continue to work with the appropriate federal, state and local officials to ensure that long-term recovery and mitigation needs are addressed.”

I then followed up, asking whether the senator believed offsets should be required. No response has been received.

So your guess is as good as mine.

– Jay Bookman

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Thanks to the Lottery Players in Georgia

September 1st, 2011
1:07 pm

How’s those fires out in Texas being handled too.

Brosephus

September 1st, 2011
1:10 pm

Cantor’s got them by the balls… :)

larry

September 1st, 2011
1:13 pm

Well, i imagine that both of them are standing there with their finger in the air seeing which way the wind blows. Thats how both of them have decided how to vote on bills in the past.

As if the POG actually gave a rat’s a$$ about people………….

JohnnyReb

September 1st, 2011
1:14 pm

Maybe Obama will transfer some of that 500 billion taken from Medicare for Obamacare to FEMA.

getalife

September 1st, 2011
1:15 pm

The dems will force a vote to get them on record.

Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)

September 1st, 2011
1:17 pm

Well, maybe if they put a couple of the old geezers to work and took them off the dole there’d be money for disaster relief. Anyway, we never had a disaster up here in Forsyth County and I don’t see why my taxes need to go to pay for somebody else’s problems. People need to learn it’s a jungle out there and it’s every man for hisself. If your trailer gets blowed off the cinderblocks and tore up then you’ve got a problem. But it ain’t my problem. And you need to pay to rebuild your own schools and such. I ain’t your Daddy.

That’s God’s way and the American way and the Republican way. But I’ll pray for you down at church on Sunday morning if I can remember it.

Have a good p.m. everybody.

larry

September 1st, 2011
1:17 pm

Let the Tea Party gang continue to do what they are doing, holding money and bills hostage until they get their way. Their disapproval rating is at 48% and it is going higher by the week. People are getting sick and tired of their games.

Let them hold up money for disaster relief. Let them see how long the public will put up with their crap.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 1st, 2011
1:18 pm

Budget cuts did not matter to Cantor previously when it impacted his district…and it likely will not again now that it impacts his district. It only matters to the weasel when its not his district. And this man thinks he can be Speaker?

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:19 pm

ha. Why is it so hard to say “no, we don’t need to do an immediate offset to cover for emergency costs. We can do that LATER, if we so choose, etc etc.”

WHY IS IT SO HARD. Why be silent? It’s like the birther thing all over again! “I take him at his word.” *wink wink*

getalife

September 1st, 2011
1:21 pm

They have a vote on funding infrastructure for jobs and the President’s job plan.

All these votes position the gop voting no on jobs.

They failed to pass a job bill out of the house.

The gop are job killers.

Joe Mama

September 1st, 2011
1:21 pm

I think it stinks that they’re playing games with disaster relief, but I’m relieve that there were not more deaths. Some here expressed a hope that Cantor’s district might be hard-hit, but I can’t wish misfortune on others just because I think their congressman is an A-number-one jackass.

IMO, Governor Christie has the right idea. People need help now. Quit jabberjawing about it and get some relief to those people.

Logical Dude

September 1st, 2011
1:22 pm

My guess it that they are actually using common sense. I know! Rare in a politician these days!

But they know that people affected by disasters must be helped, and holding funds for political purposes is just stupid. The budget should be dealt with separately, and aggressively, but not held over those in dire need of help.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:23 pm

Joe Mama: I wish no ill on anyone. But I do think if Cantor feels so strongly, then he should pony up the SS and Medicare dollars in his district to pay for disaster relief, in his district. But he can’t speak for any other district.

getalife

September 1st, 2011
1:24 pm

Not funding disasters is another over reach.

godless heathen

September 1st, 2011
1:24 pm

Well if FEMA is operating as they usually do, they have had to shift their efforts of shoveling cash out of the back of trucks to a different area until the trucks can get reloaded. They will be back.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:25 pm

godless heathen: Well if FEMA is operating as they usually do

Ask Chris Christie how they are operating.

jm

September 1st, 2011
1:27 pm

“So your guess is as good as mine.”

Reduce Medicare payouts by 0.17% for just one year and return to normal and its covered……

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 1st, 2011
1:28 pm

Gov. Christie is wrong to say: “Nobody was talking about off-setting budget cuts in Joplin”

Appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Republican House Majority Leader Eric Cantor says congress will find money to help Joplin. However, the lawmaker from Virginia says each dollar Joplin gets will have to be matched with budget cuts.

Cantor still a weasel. Disaster aid should never been held hostage to a demand for budget cuts. Budget cuts can be discussed after the aid has been provided.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:28 pm

jm: Why don’t you just pay more to the Treasury if you feel that strongly about it. That’ll help offset the costs too :D

Granny Godzilla

September 1st, 2011
1:29 pm

Well I’m glad to see that Jay too gets “round about” replys from those two….

Kinda like the maze on a childrens menu….

Joe Mama

September 1st, 2011
1:29 pm

Adam — “Joe Mama: I wish no ill on anyone. But I do think if Cantor feels so strongly, then he should pony up the SS and Medicare dollars in his district to pay for disaster relief, in his district. But he can’t speak for any other district.”

I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t think anyone in Cantor’s district should have to suffer because of Cantor’s spittle-flecked gibberings. They should receive the same sort of help anyone in their position would receive.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 1st, 2011
1:30 pm

godless heathen: Well if FEMA is operating as they usually do

You mean “Well if FEMA was still operating as it did under Brownie”

Logical Dude

September 1st, 2011
1:30 pm

quote: the first orders of business for Congress when it returns next week will probably be the appropriation of more disaster-relief aid.

I must retract my previous statement. I would have thought that approvals for funding would happen already. You know. . . when the disaster happens. But I guess the government has to keep THEIR vacation schedule – as long as they don’t get any flooding.

So, if funding is approved without the “but but but we must cut something NOW’ then I’ll resubmit my previous statement regarding common sense and politicians.

Joe the Plutocrat

September 1st, 2011
1:30 pm

am I the only one who finds irony in an institution (federal government) that “budgets for disasters”? call me silly, but one cannot predict disasters. true, we have “hurricane season” and tornadoes seem to be more of a Springtime occurrance in the South, but the idea that the fiscal calendar will determine aid is, well, to coin a popular phrase these days; a Ponzi scheme. I sure am glad I moved from NJ to GA. it’s like the NFL contracts these days. players used to get deferred payments and annuities, but now they want the big bonus (”guaranteed money”) upfront. and again, I am not endorsing Ron Paul, but his assessment of FEMA (”it’s FUBAR”) is not completely off-base.

Peadawg

September 1st, 2011
1:32 pm

“that such increases will have to offset by cuts elsewhere in the budget, to keep it deficit-neutral.”

Nothing wrong this. I really hope they follow through with this. At the rate we’re going we’ll hit the debt ceiling before November 2012…uh oh.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:32 pm

Joe Mama: I don’t think anyone in Cantor’s district should have to suffer because of Cantor’s spittle-flecked gibberings

Maybe not. But they elected Cantor, and they should be shown what he is doing, repeatedly and often. Then they can decide for themselves if, one day, they might not get their SS check because Cantor wants to pay for something else.

Schrodingers cat

September 1st, 2011
1:34 pm

But so far FEMA hasn’t asked for more money and none has been denied….er did I miss it?

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:34 pm

Peadawg: “that such increases will have to offset by cuts elsewhere in the budget, to keep it deficit-neutral.”

Nothing wrong this.

YES THERE IS

Granny Godzilla

September 1st, 2011
1:34 pm

Joe

Our family has a little something in the way of cash and supplies set aside in case of a disaster.

It’s the right and sensible thing to do.

“Be Prepared” wise words.

jm

September 1st, 2011
1:36 pm

Adam 1:28 – supposedly Warren Buffett’s paying up to cover it :)

Kamchak

September 1st, 2011
1:36 pm

am I the only one who finds irony in an institution (federal government) that “budgets for disasters”? call me silly, but one cannot predict disasters.

I think it’s akin to N.C. budgeting snow removal.

Last year, up here in this small hamlet in the N.C. Mtns., they went through their snow removal budget two thirds of the way through winter.

They had to find the money from somewhere, otherwise those dutiful taxpayers couldn’t get to work.

Jay

September 1st, 2011
1:36 pm

Cat, at this point there’s no one to ask. Congress doesn’t come back until next week.

larry

September 1st, 2011
1:37 pm

I know FEMA came through with flying colors when we had our floods up here in ‘09. And they stayed until the job was finished . People here can not say enough good things about them.

jm

September 1st, 2011
1:37 pm

“Kinda like the maze on a childrens menu….”

Kinda like the Federal Response to absolutely anything from the Federal Government, whether a politician or a bureaucrat. Read up Granny.

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0811/call_uncle_sam_5c130fdd-0e34-4b04-99e1-3d923ea3919e.html

Peadawg

September 1st, 2011
1:39 pm

“YES THERE IS”

When we have $14 trillion + in debt already and in danger of hitting the just-increased debt ceiling by next November, no there absolutely is nothing wrong with finding other things to cut so the disaster relief doesn’t add anymore to our debt. But we’ll agree to disagree, Adam.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:39 pm

jm: Adam 1:28 – supposedly Warren Buffett’s paying up to cover it :)

Excuses, excuses….

larry

September 1st, 2011
1:40 pm

I love how some people expect the elderly and disabled to pay for everything. Geeezzz.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:40 pm

Peadawg: You’re right that we’ll agree to disagree. Wrong about the rest. Especially the “we;re already in danger of hitting the next limit” part.

the wind whistler

September 1st, 2011
1:40 pm

There is less than 800 million in the treasury for emergency aid. 130 billion in disaster aid In FEMA budget hAS BEEN SPENT IN THE LAST two decades plus 100 billion more in emergency funding. Not to mention 14 trillion deficit in the U.S. national debt.

I would like to make a bold suggestion that victims and friends of victims help them. What better time to show the indomnitable spirit of the populace.

That being said, it is only a matter of hours before more money is borrowed to aid the victims and added to the 14 trillion dollar deficit. Move to NY, a disaster proof state.

Joe Mama

September 1st, 2011
1:42 pm

Adam — “Maybe not. But they elected Cantor, and they should be shown what he is doing, repeatedly and often. Then they can decide for themselves if, one day, they might not get their SS check because Cantor wants to pay for something else.”

Respectfully, that’s what elections are for. I’m sure Cantor’s next opponent will waste no time in pointing out Cantor’s public statements on this topic.

jm

September 1st, 2011
1:43 pm

I say let Obama blow through several hundred more billion for a new stimulus and emergency relief (without offsets) if that’s what he wants.

We’ll hit the ceiling again several months before the election and then he can eat crow again.

The height of irresponsibility……

Doggone/GA

September 1st, 2011
1:44 pm

“am I the only one who finds irony in an institution (federal government) that “budgets for disasters”? call me silly, but one cannot predict disasters”

Are you saving for possible medical emergencies? Do you have insurance on yourself, your family, your house, your car? If you answer yes to even one of those you are “budgeting” for a disaster.

Budgeting is not predicting, it is PREPARING.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:44 pm

the wind whistler: What better time to show the indomnitable spirit of the populace.

Because, as we all know, it is “spirit” that rebuilds roads, houses, and communities.

Granny Godzilla

September 1st, 2011
1:44 pm

jm

I read up and down and sideways….
I can read in a box, with a fox eating lox
I can read on a boat or on a float or with a goat

Have you ever gotten a response to a letter you sent to either of the two gentlemen from GA?

jm

September 1st, 2011
1:45 pm

Democratic strategist James Carville on Thursday called the White House “out of bounds” for requesting that the president address Congress during the same night as next week’s Republican presidential debate.

“I do think this is a really big debate and I think the White House was out of bounds…in trying to schedule a speech during a debate,” Carville said on “Good Morning America”.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/62473.html#ixzz1Wix222HK

jt

September 1st, 2011
1:45 pm

Chrisitie, Isackson, Chambliss…………………typical wimpy republicans.
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Prostrating their respective overweight selves to Washington.
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Christie only has to withhold Federal Gas taxes for one day and he would probably be able to help all of the moochers he’s begging for…………….but that would require backbone.

Doggone/GA

September 1st, 2011
1:46 pm

“I would like to make a bold suggestion that victims and friends of victims help them”

Which is more or less the same thing as saying “tax THEM, but don’t tax ME”

jm

September 1st, 2011
1:47 pm

Granny, I don’t need them for anything.

I do call or email their staff on occasion to let them know my position on issues. I thanked Chambliss for working as part of the Gang of 6.

Of course, I’m no longer a constituent of theirs. Rubio and Bill Nelson now…..

Schrodingers cat

September 1st, 2011
1:49 pm

Jay – Kinda my point

Joe the Plutocrat

September 1st, 2011
1:49 pm

any ask Michelle Bachman her views on disaster relief/aid; ’specially the flooding type of disasters? see if you can follow me this way? it’s like the silliness that is “hate crime” legislation. either a crime is a crime and there is a law identifying it as a crime. there is no need to write new laws to make otherwise crimal acts “more criminal”. if the federal goverment has embraced disaster relief as one of its many roles/services; and the fact that we have a Federal Agency dedicated to Emergency Management; suggests we do, then hey; bail ‘em out in NJ, VT, CT, NC, etc. the idea that certain disasters are less disasterous or less deserving of aid is a real head-scratcher. you know, when we got attacked on 9/11 we certainly didn’t worry about “off-sets” or “budgets” in terms of our $4-$5 trillion response. did Bush worry about “offsets” when he signed the Medicaid B plan (unfunded)?

Peadawg

September 1st, 2011
1:51 pm

“Wrong about the rest. Especially the “we;re already in danger of hitting the next limit” part.”

Can I borrow your crystal ball? If we fund a lot of disaster relief along with Obama’s jobs bill without spending cuts elsewhere and tax increases on the wealthy, we most certainly will hit the debt ceiling before November. But I don’t see either of those happening…

Jefferson

September 1st, 2011
1:52 pm

Americans deserve the services they pay for.

Jimmy62

September 1st, 2011
1:52 pm

I’m all for cutting the Department of Education completely and giving that money to disaster recovery, which I consider one of the few things our federal government does that they should be doing.

Aquagirl

September 1st, 2011
1:53 pm

wind whistler, how about you be the first one to drive over the community volunteer constructed highway bridge in an 18 wheeler? That would show true support for their indomitable spirit.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:54 pm

jt: Christie only has to withhold Federal Gas taxes for one day and he would probably be able to help all of the moochers he’s begging for…………….but that would require backbone.

Wow. Suddenly Christie is an evil left-wing nutbag, looks like. All because he isn’t towing the line….

I guess standing up to Cantor isn’t backbone at all huh?

Peadawg

September 1st, 2011
1:54 pm

Or hell, Adam, how about Obama FINALLY gets us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and use THOSE savings to fund disaster relief?

Granny Godzilla

September 1st, 2011
1:58 pm

Peadawg

It makes me smile warmly when you talk all far left wing like that.

Are you secretly a firebagger?

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:58 pm

Peadawg: Can I borrow your crystal ball?

No, but it should be easy enough to project. Can you find any charts or other evidence to back up that we will hit that debt ceiling BEFORE November 2012 if all we do is add FEMA help?

Adam

September 1st, 2011
1:59 pm

Peadawg: Or hell, Adam, how about Obama FINALLY gets us out of Iraq and Afghanistan and use THOSE savings to fund disaster relief?

Well I’d go for the principle of getting out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and the principle of funding the disaster relief. But not in making one dependent on the other.

jm

September 1st, 2011
2:00 pm

Peadawg – extract us from either a day or 3 days earlier than planned. $ in the baaaaaank. Irene, paid for.

Or make student loans include a 3% downpayment (hardly a travesty). Irene, paid for.

Or raise the retirement age by a week for just 1 year. More than paid for. Or raise the retirement age by 1 day forever, more than paid for. Irene, in the bank and done.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
2:01 pm

With adjustments that small, how exactly are we headed towards OMG DEBT CEILING BEFORE NOV 2012

jm

September 1st, 2011
2:02 pm

“how exactly are we headed towards OMG DEBT CEILING BEFORE NOV 2012″

Obama stimulus plan (depending on its size). Irene generally (though not entirely) immaterial.

MightyRighty

September 1st, 2011
2:04 pm

I don’t know why people just accept government stupidity and make excuses for it. It hasn’t been a week since the media was slobbering all over itself to point out how much more efficient FEMA is since Katrina and yet the relief efforts are as bad or worse. Floods everywhere just like Katrina, property damage in the billions, neighborhoods and towns destroyed. At some point, our government has to understand that the weather is unpredictable and dangerous. It has always been and it always will be and to not set aside funds to deal with natural disasters is just plain stupid.

Left wing management

September 1st, 2011
2:04 pm

Offsets?

We don’ need no’stinkin offsets!

jt

September 1st, 2011
2:04 pm

Adam
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With his belief of Cap and Trade……………….Chrisitie has ALWAYS been a nutbag.
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Being from New Jersey…………….he is also an obnoxious nutbag.

godless heathen

September 1st, 2011
2:05 pm

My personal experience with FEMA was long before Brownie. Their mode of operation is to pass out money with little or no accountability. They would call our firm and ask how much it would cost to fix something. I’d give them a rough estimate on the phone and the next day a check in that amount would show up.

Best thing that can happen to one of these podunk towns on the river is to get declared a disaster area. Go down to Montezuma, GA. Lovely sidewalks, street lamps, street-scapes. Really nice. All courtesy of FEMA.

Butch Cassidy

September 1st, 2011
2:09 pm

I think someone needs to tell Congress that homeless storm survivors with no access to clean water or food make for very disgruntled voters if they are denied disaster funding. You can only take the 1 term Obama thing so far. Crash the credit rating, okay. I die in what’s left of my street trying to find what’s left of my home. Hmmmm… not so much.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
2:11 pm

jm: Obama stimulus plan (depending on its size)

So you’re assuming more about the jobs plan than you actually know, and because of that assumption, making a projection. Glad we cleared that up.

Thanks to the Lottery Players in Georgia

September 1st, 2011
2:12 pm

Increase jm’s taxes. He’s definitely got too much time on his hands.

jm

September 1st, 2011
2:12 pm

Christie’s playing politics. The water he’s in is already warm enough. If he was at the Federal level, he’d be saying and doing the same thing as Cantor.

Thulsa Doom

September 1st, 2011
2:13 pm

Fema? Are these the folks that were still paying for housing for Katrina victims 4 or 5 years after Katrina?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2178919/posts?page=16

jm

September 1st, 2011
2:15 pm

Adam 2:11 yep. I’m assuming big gov’t Obama is going to want to “stimulate” the economy by spending more money in a material sort of way.

If Obama comes out with a $30B plan, what’s the point? So yes, I’m making an assumption. We’ll see if I’m right or not in a week.

Thanks – don’t worry, they already have. Or did you forget the Health Care Reform act thingy that raised taxes?

Butch Cassidy

September 1st, 2011
2:15 pm

Hey, if Congress really wants to save some bucks, why don’t we just send in the National Gaurd to shoot the survivors. Afterall, they’re just going to be a drain on the budget anyway. And as everyone knows, there’s no cheaper solution than Scorched Earth policy.

jm

September 1st, 2011
2:15 pm

“So you’re assuming more about the jobs plan than you actually know”

weak

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 1st, 2011
2:15 pm

MR: It hasn’t been a week since the media was slobbering all over itself to point out how much more efficient FEMA is since Katrina and yet the relief efforts are as bad or worse. Floods everywhere just like Katrina, property damage in the billions, neighborhoods and towns destroyed.

Its FEMA’s job to prevent floods, property damage? Or do you have actual references to “relief efforts…as bad or worse [than those to Katrina]? Some proof?

Thanks to the Lottery Players in Georgia

September 1st, 2011
2:16 pm

jm,

How much extra did you pay this past month.

Butch Cassidy

September 1st, 2011
2:17 pm

Keep – “Its FEMA’s job to prevent floods, property damage?”

Yes, apparently someone at FEMA forgot to turn on the electro magnetic shield generator that surrounds the Eastern Seaboard. None of this money talk would be necessary if they would just do their jobs!

Retired Federal Worker

September 1st, 2011
2:18 pm

Fema? Are these the folks that were still paying for housing for Katrina victims 4 or 5 years after Katrina?

And likely to pay much more. Just go to CDC or the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry or the EPA and ask about the formaldehyde problem in the trailers furnished to the Katrina victims in Louisiana and Mississippi. Formaldehyde is extremely toxic at levels found in the trailers that families were moved into. The medical problems of those families are mounting. Katrina isn’t the only problem that’s likely to cost the federal government plenty.

Joe Mama

September 1st, 2011
2:19 pm

Doom, you do realize that thread’s 2-1/2 years old, don’t you?

NIght Train

September 1st, 2011
2:20 pm

Everyone talks about cutting SS and MC, how about first we cut the pensions of all politicians who no longer holds an elected position? After their pensions are cut to ZERO, then let’s discuss SS and MC.

Thulsa Doom

September 1st, 2011
2:22 pm

Butch Cassidy,

So most people don’t even have a 1 day or 1 week food supply in their home? Count me as one of them unusual folks who has a full pantry of goods which would last probably a month or 2. And I guess its asking too much for me to have a weber or small grill to cook a lot of my meats in the freezer if the power goes out for a day or a few days. And likewise I guess it was just too much to ask me to purchase several gallons of bottled water seeing as how I only had a measley one week of advance warning.

Perhaps what we really need is a whole new govt program of folks who tell people a week before a hurricane hits how to call up friends or relatives in bordering or more inland cities or states to ask them to put them up for a couple of days, or show them how to make a hotel reservation 100 miles inland, or if they don’t leave maybe this new agency could perhaps teach people how to buy bottled water, canned goods, a small grill, batteries, etc. to get by for a few days till power is restored. We will call this new agency the national hurricane preparedness for the stupid agency.

Butch Cassidy

September 1st, 2011
2:23 pm

Retired – ” Katrina isn’t the only problem that’s likely to cost the federal government plenty”

Again, to my previous post. Maybe Boehner and his minions can hold a special news conference to inform the the public they have come up with a plan to address our spending problem. ” Folks, we have a spending problem in this country. We were given a mandate by the American people to reign in spending and that is exactly what we are going to do. Effective immediately, the survivors of Irene will be systematically rounded up and killed. After that, any survivors will be shot on site. We promised to balance the budget, America has spoken, and we heard them loud and clear. God Bless America, goodnight”.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
2:24 pm

jm: You’re right, to make such an assumption IS weak.

BUT I forgot you’re making two assumptions:

1) Obama’s plan will be a large spending plan of some type
2) Congress will pass it

Lest you forget Congress has to pass it in order to make anything add to the deficit. Hint: No matter what he says (even if it spends nothing and does tax cuts AND spending cuts) it will be rejected by House Republicans in a bloc.

Yes, that is an assumption too. But mine is more of an educated guess based on repeated behavior of House Republicans. Yours is based on a SINGLE stimulus plan that was vilified so much that nothing else the President wanted that involved spending significant money has passed since.

Butch Cassidy

September 1st, 2011
2:25 pm

Thulsa – ” We will call this new agency the national hurricane preparedness for the stupid agency.”

Okay, but I don’t think that’s going to help get the Whitehouse back in 2012.

Thulsa Doom

September 1st, 2011
2:26 pm

Joe Mama,

Yes. I realized the threat was 2 1/2 years old. Doesn’t matter. The central point was that FEMA was still paying for the living expenses for people 4-5 years after Katrina. I’m sorry but that is just absurd. What able bodied man or woman can’t get their sheet together after 4 or 5 years? Pack your crap up and move to a new city or state and get a new start on life. People been relocating for thousands of years- long before the advent of the automobile which makes it that much easier. Just sick and damn tired of the crap and excuses losers make. Programs like FEMA are there to help in the very short run. They are not there to provide a way of life or a living for someone.

Thanks to the Lottery Players in Georgia

September 1st, 2011
2:27 pm

Some of those people caught in the flash floods watched their one week food supply float down the street along with their refrigerators, etc.

getalife

September 1st, 2011
2:27 pm

“Everyone talks about cutting SS and MC, how about first we cut the pensions of all politicians who no longer holds an elected position? After their pensions are cut to ZERO, then let’s discuss SS and MC”

They say they are listening to the people……

Thulsa Doom

September 1st, 2011
2:27 pm

Okay, but I don’t think that’s going to help get the Whitehouse back in 2012.

Butch,

We’re counting on Obama to win the white house back for us. He’s our ace in the hole.

Butch Cassidy

September 1st, 2011
2:28 pm

Thulsa – “Just sick and damn tired of the crap and excuses losers make. Programs like FEMA are there to help in the very short run. They are not there to provide a way of life or a living for someone.”

Yes mein Fuhrer, please inform us of your solution to the FEMA question.

Adam

September 1st, 2011
2:29 pm

Thulsa: We’re counting on Obama to win the white house back for us. He’s our ace in the hole.

I am literally going to laugh when you guys lose by relying on this mentality. But go ahead. Think what you want. It’s just a prediction anyway.

jm

September 1st, 2011
2:29 pm

Thanks 2:16 / Bosch – about $100 +/-. Won’t know exactly for sure until tax time…..

Keep Up the Good Fight!

September 1st, 2011
2:31 pm

Doom’s definitely prepared….he is going to have frozen meat in his freezer to cook on his grill in can the power goes out for a few days…..

That meat stays frozen in a freezer without power for how long?

How far inland from the ocean shore in Vermont are they suppose to go?

Thulsa Doom

September 1st, 2011
2:31 pm

Thanks for playing,

Yes. And how many people did that happen to where every single thing was washed away in a flash flood? millions? Thousands? Hundreds? And I suppose none of them had any cash or credit cards to drive a few miles to places that weren’t flooded out and buy more groceries did they? I’ve no doubt that there were some people who literally had everything washed away and whose towns were completely cut off with washed out roads. And those people do need help in a hurry. But the numbers of people who had that happen to them where they lost literally everything are small.

Thanks to the Lottery Players in Georgia

September 1st, 2011
2:31 pm

When will the Republicans make offsetting cuts in other payments to all these other states that received FEMA aid. What are they waiting for. We cannot afford all these disasters without offsetting cuts.

getalife

September 1st, 2011
2:32 pm

You cons are scaring the Seniors with your cutting their programs talk.

They should keep screaming at the gop.

Way to toss the Seniors over the cliff.

What is wrong with you cons?

Get a grip.

Gordon

September 1st, 2011
2:33 pm

Why can’t their be cuts to fund the disaster aid? Out of over 3 trillion in spending nothing can be cut?

We are still acting like we aren’t broke. There are implications when you overspend for years.

Thulsa Doom

September 1st, 2011
2:33 pm

keep up,

Several days is your answer. And of course being intelligent people we would naturally do the smart thing before the cane hit and buy bags of ice right? Well I think we all know you lack the ability to figure out that but clearly I do not.

Butch Cassidy

September 1st, 2011
2:34 pm

getalife – “You cons are scaring the Seniors with your cutting their programs talk.”

You know, the elimination solution can be applied to the elderly as well. Perhaps we should just shoot everyone receiving Social Security and transfer the fund to Irene relief.

jm

September 1st, 2011
2:34 pm

getalife 2:32 – how much does OFA pay?

Thanks to the Lottery Players in Georgia

September 1st, 2011
2:34 pm

Thulsa,

I was talking about the ones involved in the floods. Now, do you have proof to offer up that all the people who did not lose things from their homes due to flood waters did not have a day or week’s supply of food or are you just tossing about the hyperbole.