Hugely profitable companies pay more to CEOs than to Uncle Sam

Now isn’t this special?

According to the Institute of Policy Studies, a liberal think tank, 25 of the country’s 100 highest-paid CEOs were paid more personally than their corporations paid in federal income taxes last year. (The corporations in question made, on average, a profit of $1.9 billion each.)

If you believe many conservatives, that’s pretty amazing. After all, corporate taxes in America are allegedly sky high, so the fact that so many profitable companies somehow managed to pay their CEOs even more than they paid Uncle Sam — well, that’s really saying something.

“In 2009, we calculate, major corporate CEOs took home 263 times the pay of America’s average workers. Last year, this gap leaped to 325-to-1. Among the nation’s top firms, the S&P 500, CEO pay last year averaged $10,762,304, up 27.8 percent over 2009.”

Average CEO pay among the S&P 500 up 28 percent in a year. Tough times. And again, that’s not the high-performers, the CEOs who did something special. The average CEO got a 28 percent pay hike last year.

And how did those companies end up paying so little in taxes? The IJS helps explain:

“No tax-dodging strategy over recent years has filled U.S. corporate coffers more rapidly than the offshoring of corporate activity to tax havens in low- or no-tax jurisdictions. Eighteen of the 25 firms highlighted in this study operate subsidiaries in offshore tax haven jurisdictions. The firms, all combined, had 556 tax haven subsidiaries last year….

How do tax havens work? One common corporate accounting technique, “transfer pricing,” helps corporations shift profits offshore. Technology and drug companies regularly open shell companies — in tax havens — that hold their intellectual property rights. They then charge their U.S.-based operations inflated amounts for the use of these rights. These inflated costs get deducted off U.S. taxes. The overseas tax haven profits go un- or lightly taxed. Adding insult to injury, a coalition of corporate tax dodgers is now asking Congress to reward their tax avoidance with a deeply discounted 5 percent tax rate if they bring these funds back home where many of them started.”

These are American companies — corporations that are based here in the United States because they know that locating here maximizes their profits. They want all of the advantages of being American, meanwhile pretending that a lot of their operations are located on some little Caribbean island.

Personally, I think I’m going to open an offshore branch of Jay Bookman and have my paycheck sent there. I mean, why not? I’m a person, corporations are persons. If they can do it, I can do it too, right?

Well, there is one difference. As the IJS notes,”the 25 firms highlighted in this study spent a combined total of more than $150 million on lobbying and campaign contributions last year.” In contrast, I didn’t spend a dime.

In fact, 20 of the companies in question spent more money “lobbying lawmakers than they paid in corporate taxes. Eighteen gave more to the political campaigns of their favorite candidates than they paid to the IRS in taxes.”

You get what you pay for.

– Jay Bookman

982 comments Add your comment

Adam

August 31st, 2011
12:03 pm

RB: Do you think they are there by their own choice and they just all live and LOVE to live on the government dole,” Yes, most of them are poor because of the choices they have made and their work ethic.

“and vote Democrat so they can keep this cushy poor lifestyle of theirs?” Yes. And it seems the vast majority of the Democrats platform is based around keeping their “benefit” coming, so why would anybody be surprised by that?

Statistics, real, actual data show you to be incorrect. But live in your fantasy world if you want. People don’t make a choice to be poor and to live off government assistance because they find that lifestyle cushy. They don’t like being there, and many of them do not have choices available to get out of it.

Joe Mama

August 31st, 2011
12:03 pm

Man. This is fanTAStic. (ir)Rational tries to caution Zap, and Zap makes him out to be some sort of lefty for it. (laughing) :D

It’s like Zap just gave up and let the tumor start doing all the talking for him.

Adam

August 31st, 2011
12:04 pm

kayaker: As an aside, for a personal service corporation, as I had for nearly 40yrs in a medical practice, I was taxed at a flat rate of 35%, regardless of the income I was generating. That’s why we didn’t carry over much income from year to year.

Congrats! You are more responsible than most in that bracket.

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:04 pm

Joe Mama

Forgive me, I don’t know who is left or right on this blog. It’s not like I spend 24/7 on it like most of the people here.

Mick

August 31st, 2011
12:04 pm

Speaking of taxes:

“Perry doesn’t like the Federal Reserve Board. He hates the Internal Revenue Service even more. Presumably if he had his way taxpayers would pay states rather than the federal government for all the services and transfer payments they get.

This might be a good deal for Texas. According to the most recent data from the Tax Foundation, the citizens of Texas receive only 94 cents from the federal government for every tax dollar they send to Washington.

But it would be a bad deal for most other red states. On average, citizens of states with strong Republican majorities get back more from the federal government than they pay in. Kentucky receives $1.51 from Washington for every dollar its citizens pay in federal taxes. Alabama gets back $1.66. Louisiana receives $1.78. Alaska, $1.84. Mississippi, $2.02. Arizona, $1.19. Idaho, $1.21. South Carolina, $1.35. Oklahoma, $1.36. Arkansas, $1.41. Montana, $1.47, Nebraska, $1.10. Wyoming, $1.11. Kansas, $1.12.

On the other hand, fiscal secession would be a boon to most blue states. The citizens of California — harder hit by the recession than most — receive from Washington only 78 cents for every tax dollar they send to Washington. New Yorkers get back only 79 cents on every tax dollar they send in. Massachusetts, 82 cents. Michigan, 92 cents. Oregon, 98 cents.

In other words, blue states are subsidizing red states. The federal government is like a giant sump pump — pulling dollars out of liberal enclaves like California, New York, Massachusetts, and Oregon — and sending them to conservative places like Montana, Idaho, Oklahoma, Arizona, Wyoming, Kansas, Nebraska, and the Old South.”

Paul

August 31st, 2011
12:05 pm

(ir)Rational

“I don’t think anyone here would refer to me as left wing,”

I have no doubt but that this is true. And you’re good for discussing ideas, considering other viewpoints and modifying your own.

” but I’m very much annoyed by your posts. ”

I have no doubt but that this is also true!

out of the blue

August 31st, 2011
12:06 pm

“(someone needs to explain the concept of GMT – or, at least BST – to Zap)

USinUK……Don’t ya think that’s asking a lot?

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:07 pm

Joe – I knew it was going to happen, he/she/it doesn’t read what others write. Well, maybe it reads, but it doesn’t comprehend. Oh-well. As Forest Gump said “Sh*t happens.”

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

Adam

August 31st, 2011
12:07 pm

Keep Up the Good Fight!

August 31st, 2011
12:07 pm

Zap: But for a homeless person to wear a GUCCI shirt and ask for money is ironic

I agree. The homeless should consider their wardrobe alternatives when selecting their bridge to sleep under, their grates to sleep on and the people they wish to ask for money. Why look at the fine clothing choices made by those on Wall Street when they come looking for a handout from Washington and the fine hotels they sleep in. Why the homeless would solve half their problems by wardrobe consideration and the use of private jets for transportation.

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:08 pm

Paul,

If Doom, Talking Head, and (ir)Rational could get past the “Well you libs think and do this” stuff…..they’d be alright! :)

ken

August 31st, 2011
12:08 pm

CEO’s are mandated to balance a budget and make a profit. They are ACCOUNTABLE !!!!!!!!!!

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:08 pm

“whinge-o-matic”

wonder where I get one of those

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2011
12:08 pm

“Okay, I think we’ve ruled out work level and college level. Where does that leave us?”

Grade school

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:09 pm

“Why look at the fine clothing choices made by those on Wall Street when they come looking for a handout from Washington and the fine hotels they sleep in.”

I have never been in favor for handouts to Wall Street.

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:09 pm

Well Doom does have that drunk bloggin habit, but hey, we all have our faults.

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:10 pm

Paul – thanks for the complements. I try.

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

kayaker 71

August 31st, 2011
12:10 pm

Mick, 12:04

Congress would never go for it. Can you imagine the loss of power that our Congress would have if they were paid taxes by the state? They want it from the average citizen to maintain some sort of government control over the system. Just like the unions. Voluntary contributions would only weaken them financially…. they need that steady income in deduction from a paycheck to maintain power and status.

Paul

August 31st, 2011
12:10 pm

Enter your comments here

too big to fail

August 31st, 2011
12:10 pm

Glad the FEDs decided to block AT&T’s take over of T-Mobile.

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:11 pm

“I think everyone oughta have to pay taxes”

If that were to happen, Democrats wouldn’t have a voting base.

USinUK

August 31st, 2011
12:11 pm

out – 12:06 – (ir) did a FANTASTIC job on the last page …

joe – “It’s like Zap just gave up and let the tumor start doing all the talking for him.”

now, that’s just funny. (although I was thinking it was the glass of JB)

Zap – “It’s like Zap just gave up and let the tumor start doing all the talking for him.” – why? because it doesn’t fit YOUR stereotype of what a homeless person is supposed to look like? donated clothing is donated clothing.

Common Sense

August 31st, 2011
12:11 pm

“Taxing them isn’t redistributing wealth”

Then please tell us what it is.

That’s the dumbest post of the day.

If it is not wealth you are taking and redistributing, what are you redistributing?

Joe Mama

August 31st, 2011
12:11 pm

jm — “wonder where I get one of those”

UK only. You can also get a colour TV and a new set of tyres for your pickup lorry while you’re over there.

AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!

August 31st, 2011
12:11 pm

We can have a democratic society or we can have the concentration of great wealth in the hands of the few. We cannot have both. ~Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, 1941

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:11 pm

No Paul, I won’t do it! I refuse!!

USinUK

August 31st, 2011
12:12 pm

jm – 12:08 – it does sound like something that should be sold at 3:00 in the morning on a “show” hosted by Suzanne Somers.

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:12 pm

So Zap, tell us, why DID you vote for Obama?

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:14 pm

“because it doesn’t fit YOUR stereotype of what a homeless person is supposed to look like? donated clothing is donated clothing.”

Poor little cupcake. She got upset because I pointed out what a homeless person was wearing.

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:14 pm

Bosch – I’m trying. Having said that, I do only try and present my viewpoint, and what I believe. If I’m presenting something like that, it is typically from my observations, and not necessarily directed at you. Does help when you respond and point out where I’m wrong. I don’t mind being wrong, as long as it doesn’t happen too much. Just like I don’t mind pointing out the stupidity and fallacies of the arguments of the right when I disagree with them (or as seems to be happening today, when school somewhere is out and the children get on here an annoy me).

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:14 pm

“So Zap, tell us, why DID you vote for Obama?”

I didn’t vote for Obama.

AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!

August 31st, 2011
12:15 pm

Today, the concentration of wealth and its political power has reached stunning intensities. In large companies, people who work in the same enterprise are now earning $1 for every $416 that the CEO takes away. In 1940, it was $1 for every $12. Today the financial wealth of the top 1% of households exceeds the combined wealth of the bottom 95% of American households. Earlier this year Bill Gates’ wealth was equal to the combined wealth of the poorest 120 million Americans. Whatever this enormous imbalance says about the great software imitator from Redmond, Washington, it means that tens of millions of Americans, who work year after year, decade after decade, are nearly broke. What democracy worth its salt would have led to this profound inequity? ~Ralph Nader

kayaker 71

August 31st, 2011
12:15 pm

AmVet12:11

And as long as you penalize excellence you will ultimately weaken the entire system. People attain wealth for different reasons. Many work very hard for what they have and should not have government standing behind them with a shaft at every turn. Just because I made it does not mean that you have a right to it.

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:16 pm

Joe Mama :)

Zap – if you want to really get them riled up, just bring up Dick Cheney…..

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:16 pm

IrRational,

We all do that. Sometimes even some of us can man up and admit we’re wrong! We all at some point use the blanket statments and sweeping broad brushes, it’s human nature.

Don’t worry about the name changer — he can’t control himself and he’ll be gone in a few days — just ignore — I agree with AmVet, three days tops.

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:17 pm

Ok, so the name changer has learned to by-pass that obvious give away. Too bad you can always tell who he is from they style of writing, you just can’t get away from that.

USinUK

August 31st, 2011
12:17 pm

“She got upset because I pointed out what a homeless person was wearing.”

nope. just pointed out that it’s a stupid thing to say … and YOU got upset.

(psst – it’s called “projection” – and seems to be a problem you suffer from)

Brosephus

August 31st, 2011
12:17 pm

It’s like Zap just gave up and let the tumor start doing all the talking for him.

Dammmit Joe Mama!!!!! I just soaked half my computer desk with water….

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:17 pm

Bosch – Eh, I was thinking of poking it, seeing if maybe it had any teeth. :)

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

USinUK

August 31st, 2011
12:18 pm

jm – don’t forget Alan Greenspan

(evil be his name)

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:18 pm

“on a “show” hosted by Suzanne Somers.”

Oh boy. USinUK is smack talking about Suzanne Somers. Gonna have to go get the big guns now….

MrLiberty

August 31st, 2011
12:19 pm

Uncle Sam destroys everything he touches. Why would you want to pay him more than the creative and productive CEO running your company. Government is a failure. No reason to reinforce that behavior with money or praise. Wake up Jay. The time for decentralization and self-governance is upon us.

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:19 pm

“Zap – if you want to really get them riled up, just bring up Dick Cheney…”

Riled up? He’s hardly worth the energy — nope, most of us realize he is evil personified and leave it at that and move on.

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:20 pm

Alan Greenspan is the biggest financial genius of all time and misunderestimated by liberals.

:)

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:21 pm

Wait, Suzanne Somers is still around? I thought she had crawled in a hole somewhere and disappeared?

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:21 pm

“Alan Greenspan is the biggest financial genius of all time and misunderestimated by liberals.”

I just threw up — and not in my mouth, and not just a little.

(Hehehehehehe USinUK, I so stole that from you — and please don’t kill poor jm, he doesn’t know what he says).

Tommy Maddox

August 31st, 2011
12:21 pm

Maybe CEOs get huge checks because their corporations are HUGELY successful.

Brosephus

August 31st, 2011
12:21 pm

Bosch: If Doom, Talking Head, and (ir)Rational could get past the “Well you libs think and do this” stuff…..they’d be alright!

I tend to just gloss over those statements as I see some on the left commit the same infraction. Doom and (ir)Rational are ok in my book. Talking Head has too much of that attack first, attack often mentality for me. That’s just my opinion though.

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:21 pm

jm – Please provide a definition for misunderestimated. Thank you.

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:22 pm

Wow, it’s been like 8 whole minutes since the name changer posted….is there hope?

USinUK

August 31st, 2011
12:24 pm

Bosch – I think the smiley says that he does!

:-) (evil, jm!!!!)

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:24 pm

Brosephus – I learned from playing Risk that attacking first and often usually results in an early exit from the game, and typically gets everyone upset with you and after you. Doesn’t always apply, but you know, good rule of thumb.

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!

August 31st, 2011
12:25 pm

71, I believe your premise is fatally flawed by using the word penalize.

penalize – verb
to put under a disadvantage or handicap.

Obviously the exact opposite has happened and the American worker – NOT the man making 400 times as much – has been penalized, wouldn’t you say?

I can even understand 40 times as much, but this current untenable debacle is absurd, contrived, gargantuanly counter-productive and spells HUGE trouble for the future of we the people’s republic. Look around at your neighbors, etc. Do you not agree that Middle class Americans are getting absolutely clobbered left and right?

This is not an accident. It is by plan.

I think even the most ardent “free market” (HA!) thinkers understand that a plutocracy now exists in the United States of America.

plutocracy – noun
the rule or power of wealth or of the wealthy.

USinUK

August 31st, 2011
12:25 pm

SoCoBro – (ir) is better than alright – he cracks me the heck up – and he always makes me keep my eye out to spot Mr. Galt.

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:25 pm

Okay, I’ve resorted to eating the half open bag of chocolate chips that I found in my desk, so I must go get nourishment.

Later folks!

And agreed Bro. :) After Doom’s drunk bloggin incident and consequent banning, I feel as though we are brothers in arms! :) But I wasn’t drunk when I got banned….

Joe

August 31st, 2011
12:25 pm

And your point is Jay? I assume it would be that these rich people don’t pay their fair share. LOL… This is the same tired old liberal argument but facts that these people pay 50% of tax revenues alone is almost always conveniently left out. Another fact is that half the country’s workforce pays no income taxes. Is it fair that many if not all of these people still get a tax refund through democrat lead credits? That’s what I call not fair!!!!

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:26 pm

Oh, and just so y’all don’t think I’m a girly man, if you come in my house uninvited, I’ll attack first and often. Don’t want ya’ll getting the wrong impression. ;)

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

DebbieDoRight

August 31st, 2011
12:26 pm

RB: And it seems the vast majority of the Democrats platform is based around keeping their “benefit” coming, so why would anybody be surprised by that?

Don’t you ever get tired of repeating that same old tired crap? You can’t substantiate it, but I guess you figure if you keep saying it over and over and over and over that someone will finally believe it.

:roll:

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:26 pm

“Please provide a definition for misunderestimated. ”

A word invented by Bush that I think is hilarious. If Webster ever puts it in……

Joe

August 31st, 2011
12:26 pm

Jay you are really working overtime since the other far left fruit Tucker is gone…. LOL….

USinUK

August 31st, 2011
12:26 pm

Bosch

August 31st, 2011
12:27 pm

“Maybe CEOs get huge checks because their corporations are HUGELY successful.”

Or Tommy, maybe it’s because they get tax breaks and their profits are higher and they pocket it.

:roll:

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:27 pm

USinUK – That is my main goal in life. To crack people up. Well sorta, my main goal is obviously to meet John Galt, but that is a different story. :)

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

kayaker 71

August 31st, 2011
12:27 pm

Ah, this great country of ours, where you can attain most anything you want with hard work and dedication. Eight hours days have rarely produced wealth. Failing to graduate from high school will shrink your wallet considerably. If you feel that someone owes you just because you made some bad decisions, you are living in the wrong country…. at least for now. What I have worked hard for does not belong to you, no matter who you are. You are not entitled to profit from my good fortune. Maybe in China or North Korea but not in the US. Go to work, get a job. Quit whining. This country will allow you to be anything you want. You just have to want it bad enough.

larry

August 31st, 2011
12:28 pm

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

Ive already answered this once, He owns John Galt INC. in Douglasville on Sullivan street .

That is who John Galt is.

Paul

August 31st, 2011
12:28 pm

Bosch

Just because you can’t figure out how to enter comments in a block that’s already been posted….

Doggone/GA

August 31st, 2011
12:28 pm

“Maybe CEOs get huge checks because their corporations are HUGELY successful”

I wouldn’t argue that, but I would argue that IF a corporation is so hugely successful and profitable that their CEO’s salary can be increased by 28%, then that same percentage increase should ALSO go to the employees. After all, it is THEY who do the grunt work that made the corporation able to BE that profitable.

getalife

August 31st, 2011
12:28 pm

The attention troll character is annoying.

Use it in rw blogs.

Then they will ban you.

Brosephus

August 31st, 2011
12:28 pm

(ir)Rational

I never played Risk, but I understand the logic. Whenever I see people here attacking the messenger as opposed to dissecting the message, that’s a clear cut sign that they’ve lost the debate. Hubris keeps us from openly admitting when we’ve been beaten by someone else. It’s more of an embarrassment when someone, who we feel are not our political equal, has gotten the best of us.

Many of the pseudo-conservatives and pseudo-liberals alike think their political opposites are beneath them when it comes to intellectual political discourse. That’s why you’ll see me often refer to the pseudos as opposed to the groups themselves.

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:29 pm

“But I wasn’t drunk when I got banned….”

There seems to be a high recidivism rate around here….. good things Jay’s not handing out misdemeanors. Which isn’t a crime anyway.

Brosephus

August 31st, 2011
12:30 pm

As far as looking for John Galt, if he ever comes through my line at work, I’ll most definitely let him know there are people looking for him. :)

BeeJay

August 31st, 2011
12:30 pm

My first reaction when I read your title was, “So?” I think I’ll leave it at it.

Paul

August 31st, 2011
12:31 pm

jm

“Suzanne Somers. Gonna have to go get the big guns now….”

She’s gonna slap you…..

DebbieDoRight

August 31st, 2011
12:31 pm

Joe: This is the same tired old liberal argument but facts that these people pay 50% of tax revenues alone is almost always conveniently left out.

Oh no!! Not the “they pay all the taxes!!” fallacy AGAIN?! (sigh)

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:33 pm

“The attention troll character is annoying.”

Indeed you are.

(ir)Rational

August 31st, 2011
12:34 pm

Bro – Thanks. Larry, he isn’t the REAL John Galt. I checked. ;) Gonna go eat some food now.

Oh-well. Who is John Galt?

Paul

August 31st, 2011
12:34 pm

Tommy Maddox

“Maybe CEOs get huge checks because their corporations are HUGELY successful.”

So if CEOs get the big bucks

and if Corporations now have the highest profits in decades under the overnment (Obama Administration) policies..

if they pay CEO’s millions,

why shouldn’t they also pay the government millions?

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:35 pm

Obama’s poll number is now 38%. That’s getting to W 2008 levels.

Aquagirl

August 31st, 2011
12:35 pm

Oh no!! Not the “they pay all the taxes!!” fallacy AGAIN?!

What, you didn’t enjoy it the first 283,397 times?

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:36 pm

“why shouldn’t they also pay the government millions?”

Why should they pay the government anything?

RB from Gwinnett

August 31st, 2011
12:36 pm

“And all of them pay exactly that percentage every time, right? THE HUMANITY!”

Ummm, yes, they do. The options are to take deductions they are entitled to take and would be STUPID not to take or to cheat on their taxes and hope they don’t get caught. Since ALL of the publicly held companies are audited by 3rd party accounting firms to verify they are following the rules, I’d say you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about (as usual).

DawgDad

August 31st, 2011
12:36 pm

Well, we could solve the offshore problem and a lot of others by eliminating corporate income taxes entirely. Is that a complete solution? No, but it’s a good start and hits at the core issue.

Thogwummpy

August 31st, 2011
12:36 pm

Hmmm….I wonder why Bookman won’t out these officers by name? Maybe, because there are glaring examples like Jeff Immelt; the GE CEO who is a slobbering, worshiping sycophant of Barack Obama! Speaking of corporations….I wonder why Bookman never did a piece exposing the safety and environmental quid pro quo regulatory concessions that BP got in return for their massive campaign contributions to Obama, before the Deep Water Horizon disaster. We all know if Obama had been a Republican, Bookman would have based multiple columns upon this with all the expected charges of corruption! Wanna know why Fox News and talk radio are so popular? Because the rest of the media are Bookman-ish zombies that won’t report anything that’s unfavorable to their partisanship (which they promote behind the fraudulent mask of “journalistic objectivity”…that ain’t).

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:37 pm

Obama wants joint session of congress for jobs speech.

I’d say no way unless I knew what was in it. You know, like corporate tax reform.

Granny Godzilla

August 31st, 2011
12:37 pm

Here’s an interesting tidbit….

The President has requested a joint session of Congress September 7th for his jobs speech.

getalife

August 31st, 2011
12:39 pm

The President will speak to congress on his jobs plan.

I doubt the wealth care party can behave themselves.

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:39 pm

“The President has requested a joint session of Congress September 7th for his jobs speech.”

After 3 years he’s finally focusing on jobs. Priceless.

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:40 pm

Thogwummpy

Bookman is in the tank for Obama.

DebbieDoRight

August 31st, 2011
12:40 pm

What, you didn’t enjoy it the first 283,397 times?

I’m thinking about doing a macro with the rebuttal info — so that everytime I see that lie all I have to do is type in “Alt1234″ and it’ll automatically populate the correct info, with a link.

Not that the poster who posted said garbage would ever click on the link and actually READ it; but at least I’d feel like I’ve done my part to combat ridiculousness.

Paul

August 31st, 2011
12:40 pm

Joe

“And your point is Jay? I assume it would be that these rich people don’t pay their fair share”

Ummm…. no…. I don’t think in 16 pages of posts anyone else took that as Jay’s point….

WAW

August 31st, 2011
12:40 pm

Vote republican = vote against yourself, your family, your mama and daddy and for the corporate bottom line (that’s all that matters)

Granny Godzilla

August 31st, 2011
12:40 pm

jm

President Obama has been talking about corporate tax reform for nearly two years.

I suspect we will hear more on the 7th.

AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!

August 31st, 2011
12:41 pm

May 01, 2008

A new poll suggests that President Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey released Thursday indicates that 71 percent of the American public disapprove of how Bush is handling his job as president.

“No president has ever had a higher disapproval rating in any CNN or Gallup Poll; in fact, this is the first time that any president’s disapproval rating has cracked the 70 percent mark,” said Keating Holland, CNN’s polling director.

By November 2008, his approval rating would stand at 20%.

The worst ever…

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:41 pm

Granny Godzilla

Just remember, no president has ever been re-elected with over 7% unemployment. It ain’t gonna drop that low by next November.

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:41 pm

oh this is funny. and obama wants to do the speech at the same time as a Republican debate.

What a joke. Obama is just all politics all the time. So much for trying to run the country, which I guess is better than him actually trying to do things.

jm

August 31st, 2011
12:42 pm

Granny G 12:40 you would be wrong. No tax reform in the proposal.

Joe

August 31st, 2011
12:42 pm

DebbieDoRight:

I understand sometimes facts get in the way of reality to liberals but this fight has already been fought by Obama. He lost. Get over it….

Zap Rowsdower

August 31st, 2011
12:42 pm

“A new poll suggests that President Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history.”

Who did they poll? How many were polled? Yep, looks like another rat voter leaves out the details.

Unemployment was 7.6% when W left office. It’s been over 9% ever since.

Keep defending the bozo in the White House, rat voters. It’s all coming to an abrupt end next year.

DebbieDoRight

August 31st, 2011
12:43 pm

jm: Why should they pay the government anything?

So that the Government can afford all those soldiers, weapons, and tanks that they’ll need to protect their “overseas” investments. Why else?

Paul

August 31st, 2011
12:45 pm

jm

““why shouldn’t they also pay the government millions?”

Why should they pay the government anything?”

Read… assess… think…. consider answers…. rethink…. then post…..

why should anyone pay the government anything?