The only person who can stop Rick Perry is Rick Perry
John Ellis, who among many other things is a Republican political analyst, a blogger and a cousin to former President George W. Bush, nails the state of the GOP presidential race in a Business Insider column:
The Republican “establishment,” such as it is, is quickly coming to the realization that the 2012 GOP presidential nomination is Texas Governor Rick Perry’s to lose.
That establishment would prefer someone more electable, someone more like, say, Mitt Romney. But as Ellis points out, Romney is the guy that most Republican voters will choose only if they have no other viable choice:
“Romney’s problem is four-fold: he’s politically “fungible” (to put it politely), he’s from the wrong region of the country (New England), he’s of the wrong religion (Mormonism) and he’s too closely identified with Wall Street (Bain Capital). The Republican base would prefer to nominate a strong conservative, evangelical Christian from the Sunbelt who, at the least, shares their disdain for Wall Street’s reckless stewardship of the nation’s financial system.”
Know anybody like that?
Ellis predicts that after Labor Day, the GOP establishment will launch “a sustained negative campaign to destroy Perry with the party’s base.” We’ve already seen hints of that from Karl Rove, among others. Absent some major revelation, however, that effort isn’t likely to work. Perry’s persona and background align so closely with the desires of the GOP base that it will be very difficult to drive a wedge between them. If Perry can prove that he can perform on the national stage, the nomination is all but his and there’s nothing Romney can do about it.
And as Ellis points out, Perry will get that opportunity very quickly.
“Once Labor Day has passed, there will be five debates, in quick succession, on the GOP presidential candidates’ calendars. These will be important tests for Perry. If at the end of two or three, it’s clear that he’s every bit the equal of Mitt Romney on matters of policy and politics, then the Perry juggernaut becomes all but unstoppable. Romney’s “I’m the only electable one” argument will vanish and the party’s base will nominate one of their own. If Perry stumbles badly in the debates, Romney’s campaign gets a second wind.”
I agree wholeheartedly. The only person who can snatch the nomination out of Rick Perry’s hands is Rick Perry himself.
– Jay Bookman
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Bosch
August 30th, 2011
5:10 pm
Dusty,
“So you blog for flattery and only pass pleasantries? ”
NO, there you have another episode of simple answers to stupid questions.
“Too bad you forgot the day you messed up so badly you want to forget it entirely, even though it is still in the archives”
I do believe dear Dusty, your dementia has gotten worse, that was YOU lying about something I wrote, not me forgetting. I pointed that out, but you just ignored it. Do you always make a habit of lying about others? I don’t think Jesus would like that.
“I will continue to post my opinion, not yours”
Liar. You will continue to mislead what others write just as the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.
JohnnyReb
August 30th, 2011
5:10 pm
I posted yesterday that Julie Banderas is not an illegal immigrant, and that if those that were looked like her we would not have the problem. Kammie didn’t get it.
Bosch
August 30th, 2011
5:11 pm
And Dusty, what is in the archives for anyone to see, is you lying about what I wrote even after I pointed it out.
Bosch
August 30th, 2011
5:13 pm
“If you’re going to purport to be an expert on something, at least do your homework”
Now, THAT would be a first…and also newsworthy.
Joe Mama
August 30th, 2011
5:13 pm
In other news, Spaghetti Junction is hosed. Too bad we don’t have a more robust transit system.
Enjoy the traffic jam, folks!
Brosephus
August 30th, 2011
5:15 pm
Again, why worry about it if the feds don’t seem too concerned once they get in or decide to over-stay? I sense 2 totally differing concepts…………
It’s a big misconception to say the feds don’t seem too concerned once they get in. Try running that line by ICE Agents. I’m sure they’d be thrilled to hear the idea that they’re not concerned about their jobs. As for me and my colleagues, we take the overstaying thing very seriously. Even the apprehension that someone might have that idea in mind subjects them to additional scrutiny. In some countries, there’s even little cheat sheets that try to give people information to thwart us.
If you wanna accuse someone of being not too concerned, then put that weight on those who actually write the law. Those of us in the field are simply enforcing what they legislate and pass.
josef
August 30th, 2011
5:15 pm
Cat fight! Cat fight!
Bosch
August 30th, 2011
5:19 pm
josef,
Meow!!
SHUT UP!! Gotta go get me daughter folks….
jt
August 30th, 2011
5:20 pm
In a more perfect society, we would all be treated like illegal aliens or gays in the military.
.
Don’t ask, don’t tell.
.
AmVet - Read my lips. No new Texans!
August 30th, 2011
5:20 pm
What is criminal is that some of you people apparently graduated from high school.
Notwithstanding that the offense occurred in Georgia!
Good news and bad news. The good news is that because of pressure from more than 3000 veterans who signed our petition, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta has started to back off of a plan that would privatize the military pension system, turning it from a guaranteed benefit to a risky 401(k)-type system. After our petition went out, Secretary Panetta made clear that any changes to the pension system wouldn’t affect current troops. Now the bad news. The plan is still not off the table.
We have always made a deal, as a nation, with those who serve in uniform – you fight to protect us, and we’ll take care of you. The current pension system rewards those who serve over 20 years, with a pension that equals roughly half of their military pay. For years, this has been the Gold Standard, and has led many men and women to make a career of military service, rather than leaving when their original contract was up. In short, the pension plan helps us to field the greatest military the world has ever known.
If we privatize the pension system, and no longer guarantee a level of pension benefits to service members, we’re going see some of our best and brightest to leave the military when the pension system is no more. We’re going to make it harder to even recruit some of the best in America. Whether than happens now or in the future, the harm such a move would do to our professional military would be severe.
Further, at a time when we’re not asking corporations or billionaires to help reduce the debt, when we’re not ending no-bid contracts or asking contractors for better deals, when we’re spending billions of dollars a year in two wars with no end, it is not right to try to balance the budget on the backs of men and women in uniform, by asking them to toss their retirements onto the Wall Street roulette wheel.
Sincerely,
Richard Allen Smith
Afghanistan Veteran
Vice Chairman, VoteVets.org
md
August 30th, 2011
5:20 pm
Jo………I’ll give back my house and land as long as I get put on a reservation with my own casino
Logical Dude
August 30th, 2011
5:21 pm
Criminal. .. Civil. . . Misdemeanor. . . Felony. “What part of illegal don’t you understand?”
Thought I’d get that one out of the way.
If there are laws against it, then it’s evidently illegal.
So quit whining about calling them “criminals” because they’re not. They’re just not legal.
Can we all at LEAST agree on THAT?
Dusty
August 30th, 2011
5:22 pm
Bosch, you are trying to wiggle out of the archives which I quoted to you, title, time, date and lines…all your own ugly speech.
So forget it. Your credibility is gone. What you get is my opinion, not yours.
So forget it. You have no need to address me. I’m not interested.
Joe Mama
August 30th, 2011
5:23 pm
Logical Dude — “Can we all at LEAST agree on THAT?”
How about we go back to calling them what the fedgov has been calling them for freakin’ ever — undocumented aliens?
md
August 30th, 2011
5:23 pm
“If you wanna accuse someone of being not too concerned”
What would you call it when the decision is made to let those ICE has caught go?
That has nothing to do with you or them doing their jobs…….you don’t make the rules.
Aquagirl
August 30th, 2011
5:24 pm
In other news, Spaghetti Junction is hosed. Too bad we don’t have a more robust transit system
I wish I had captured a screen shot of the big yellow breaking news banner “I-285 shut down” posted over Jay’s morning entry.
Bosch
August 30th, 2011
5:25 pm
Dusty
No you didn’t . You wrote that I had written I hate taking care ofmy elderly relatives which I did not. If I did as you say, then go fetch it Fido, do it, I’ll check back.
josef
August 30th, 2011
5:25 pm
md
better make friends with getalife!
Course I understand the Chitmacha are offering him honorary citizenship in recognition for all he has done to improve living conditions on the Rez…
out of the blue
August 30th, 2011
5:26 pm
md….I’ll give back my house and land as long as I get put on a reservation with my own casino.
I’m sorry md, but I don’t think Jo can help. But, I understand Ralph Reed and Jack Abramoff
may have some connections!
Redneck Convert (R--and proud of it)
August 30th, 2011
5:26 pm
Well, don’t make me drag out my argument about us rednecks hauling all the illegals and dumping them over the border. I thought this blog was about Rick Perry.
Perry-Bachmann 2012—We’ll find someplace to have the next war. And all the gays we convert will be drafted.
Paul
August 30th, 2011
5:27 pm
josef
“! Close the borders and deport anybody not three generations born here…here being defined as the Mason-Dixon-Ohio River-36 30 to the north, Rio Grande to the south”
I’m not sure there’d be enough left to do the deporting –
AmVet
It would be helpful if Mr. Smith would modify his letter to “with a pension that equals roughly half of their BASIC military pay.”
I ran the numbers once, and they do vary, but including basic pay, housing allowance, rations, etc etc it comes out to not half their military pay, but about a third.
josef
August 30th, 2011
5:28 pm
BOSCH
And on that one I don’t blame you one little bit for having your fur hiked…
Paul
August 30th, 2011
5:29 pm
AmVet
And if we’d get rid of corporate welfare in the Defense budget, welfare for civilians, welfare for our allies, we’d have no trouble in resizing the force and continuing the current retirement system.
josef
August 30th, 2011
5:32 pm
PAUL
Want the stats on that? There’d be roughly 60 million!
out of the blue…
Good one! But, hey, the Better Half is Chahta, too…and THEY took Abramoff and Reid for a ride! They forgot they were dealing with a “Civilized Tribe!”
Brosephus
August 30th, 2011
5:36 pm
What would you call it when the decision is made to let those ICE has caught go?
If I’m reading you right, you’re pointing at politicians who make those decisions. In that aspect, you’re right. However, to just use the blanket statement that the feds don’t care is wrong. The generic group “the feds” would include those front line people who are concerned and try to enforce the laws to the best they can be enforced. The group that does not seem to care is the group that is actually responsible for making those political decisions and writing the laws and rules.
I just kinda have a knee jerk reaction when people use the term “the feds” without referring to which part of the feds they’re talking about.
Dusty
August 30th, 2011
5:37 pm
Company, I’ve got to run.
Bosch, you were talking about the care of the elders in your home. Keep wiggling. It’s in the archives.
—–
Braves are playing tonight. Whoopee!! At 7:10..
Brosephus
August 30th, 2011
5:38 pm
“! Close the borders and deport anybody not three generations born here…here being defined as the Mason-Dixon-Ohio River-36 30 to the north, Rio Grande to the south”
I’m not sure there’d be enough left to do the deporting –
I’m good. Traced my roots here all the way back to the late 1700’s, and I have proof if it’s needed.
Logical Dude
August 30th, 2011
5:41 pm
undocumented aliens
But for my conspiracy minded friends, they would get confused with the UFO’s that don’t register with the government.
Sarah
August 30th, 2011
5:41 pm
I prefer making love to my undocumented boyfriend vs. my former citizen boyfriend. The injustice adds a thrill to the deed.
josef
August 30th, 2011
5:44 pm
BROSEPHUS
Yeah, mine back to the 1600s…so, bring it on, eh? And you’ve even got those pre-Columbian lines…you could deport me… ‘course you’d have to get it past Unmentionable, but somehow I don’t think you’d have a lot of trouble with that with him today, anyway.
jm
August 30th, 2011
5:44 pm
A review of the MLK memorial on the mall
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2011/08/martin-luther-king
josef
August 30th, 2011
5:46 pm
SARAH
Marry the boy…he could make a respectable woman out of you and you could make a legal resident out of him…a win win situation…do the right thing!
Paul
August 30th, 2011
5:50 pm
Brosephus – josef
I’ll be with you here for the exodus party. My mother’s side to the 1600s. Father’s side, 1800s, but that fellow got his citizenship taking the place of a draft dodger, fought on the freedom side, was wounded, spent time in a Confederate POW camp, returned home with terrible pain from his wounds, got no help with medical care and ended up committing suicide. And his widow received no help, either.
Just one reason of many I have definite views on what we owe people who were injured or killed in service to the country.
Bosch
August 30th, 2011
5:51 pm
Dusty
Yes I was and no where did I write I hated taking care if them as you accused. So you made the claim back I up. To be honest I cant believe you have sunk to such levels of pure trash. I’m very disappointed in you. I thought you were better than that.
Doggone/GA
August 30th, 2011
5:52 pm
“Bosch, you were talking about the care of the elders in your home. Keep wiggling. It’s in the archives”
Yes, it is…and he never said he resented it. Outlining the difficulties of doing something does not, in ANY WAY, indicate that the task is resented. Reality, and all that. He is correct, you took your own interpretation of those difficulties and projected on HIM a dislike of the tasks that he NEVER expressed. And he rightly took you to task for doing that.
Brosephus
August 30th, 2011
5:54 pm
Paul
Welcome to the club!!!!
jm
August 30th, 2011
5:54 pm
Atlanta keeps getting the national news treatment on the school test cheating scandal
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-30/no-erasure-left-behind-is-key-to-stopping-standardized-test-mischief-view.html
josef
August 30th, 2011
5:54 pm
PAUL
Yeah, but are those lines resident in the defined territory? If not, then we’ll just have to confiscate your properties and send you packing!
But, jokes aside, for those of us whose lines go back that far, it is kind of interesting to watch where the “cut off” point is…
josef
August 30th, 2011
5:55 pm
PAUL
That’s the Ancestrally Uppity Club…
Kamchak
August 30th, 2011
5:56 pm
I posted yesterday that Julie Banderas is not an illegal immigrant, and that if those that were looked like her we would not have the problem. Kammie didn’t get it.
Julie Banderas was born in Hartford Connecticut. The fact that she has an Hispanic surname just gives you leave to compare her to IAs.
md
August 30th, 2011
5:56 pm
Soco……….i’m referring to the feds in the sense of the higher ups at DHS that made the decision to let them go…….on direction of the administration.
Bosch
August 30th, 2011
5:56 pm
Thanks Doggone.
jm
August 30th, 2011
5:56 pm
relevant to Jay’s transportation blog post
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-29/put-a-percentage-in-your-tank-to-fix-the-federal-motor-fuels-tax-view.html
Uncle Jed
August 30th, 2011
5:58 pm
The Republican “establishment” is clearly not the “base”. The former is not where non-liberal voters are right now. The former has disappointed time and again. Many have said, “There’s not a dime’s worth of difference between the two major political parties”. That is probably very true when considering the “establishment” of both entities. I think this is where the across the board dissatisfaction for congress is rooted.
A whole bunch of people are looking for decisive reform and a call to action that will truly move the country in a different direction, maybe even radical in terms of comparison, but not exclusively in the liberal vision. For all the attempts at aligning all conservatives with the Republican “base”, it is deeper than a simple pigeon-holing effort. There are plenty of conservatives in the middle and that segment is looking for something new and a better way of governance, in my opinion.
Following are two more paragraphs from the article Jay referenced:
The sewage flood-gates have already opened, to some degree. For the past few months, Washington bureau chiefs of major news organizations have been inundated with rumors of Perry’s alleged personal indiscretions and peccadilloes. And virtually every major news organization has some kind of “investigative team” looking into allegations of “pay to play” and other forms of corruption. If all that that amounts to are some negative articles in The Washington Post and The New York Times, Perry won’t be harmed. It will take something serious, something big and proven to bring him down. sewage, really
In the meantime, Perry has the luxury of thinking nationally. As President Obama’s political standing continues to erode, the “electability” hurdle gets lower. The base is beginning to think that anyone can beat Obama. And there is already talk that former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and New Jersey Governor Chris Christie are Perry’s top two choices for vice president. This has GOP activists nearly giddy with glee. A Perry-Christie ticket would be more than electable; it would be formidable. It would also bring the GOP “establishment” back inside his tent, which is where Perry wants them and needs them to be. Perry-Christie, formidable? Hmmm…
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It is somewhat saddening to hear anyone refer to sewage when characterizing how politics is played these days. I suppose it has long been a tactic to attack an opponent by personal destruction, but that doesn’t excuse it or make it any more palatable. Differences in opinion could be intellectually examined and debated, thus informing the voters about policy and philosophy positions taken by a particular candidate. I guess that is just not sexy enough or satisfying enough in the bloodsport of politics. The media feeds us what we eat. We must be mushrooms.
Paul
August 30th, 2011
5:58 pm
josef
Had three relatives who fought in the revolution – colonel on down.
Once asked my mom why she never joined the Daughters of the American Revolution. Was a big thing back east.
Her reply? “Why should I have special status just because of who my ancestors were?”
I think that answer reflects the best of American ideals.
Bosch
August 30th, 2011
5:59 pm
Paul josef
One one side I come from ten generations of the finest Georgia Mountain rednecks around!
jm
August 30th, 2011
5:59 pm
Ahhh… gotta love the police state
“Many employers use a criminal record, even if an arrest did not result in a conviction, as a blunt way to avoid hiring troublemakers. But since about 30 percent of American adults have a record, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, the measure is too crude. Employers are denying themselves the possibility of finding candidates who just might be right for the job at hand. ”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-25/a-simple-cost-free-remedy-for-the-hard-core-unemployed-view.html
Not sure I agree with this…. but worthy of thought and review.
Uncle Jed
August 30th, 2011
6:00 pm
compare her to IAs.
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Is that a new birth control device or what?
Kamchak
August 30th, 2011
6:02 pm
Is that a new birth control device or what?
Or what.
Brosephus
August 30th, 2011
6:03 pm
md
Gotcha!! No argument from me on that one.
Paul
August 30th, 2011
6:04 pm
Bosch
“ten generations of the finest Georgia Mountain rednecks”
Ten generations? And not one of them could find their way out?!!?
jm
August 30th, 2011
6:06 pm
No matter how many times it is suggested to libs, they still won’t get it…..
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-30/on-company-taxes-u-s-should-follow-world-down-ramesh-ponnuru.html
josef
August 30th, 2011
6:06 pm
PAUL
My cousins J, J and I are the “keepers of the family trees” for those looking to enter the UDC, SCV, DAR and SAR…we have a blast trying to not tell them the WHOLE story! We’re working on the “alternate version” which we call, “It’s a Long Way from Castels Caumont and Cadillac to Selling Nookie by the Railroad Tracks in Burnsville, Mississippi!”
So tell your Mom, oh, no…the BEST of the American traditions is to shake that tree and take pride in the scoundrels who come falling out by the bushel basket… that’s who we REALLY are!
Uncle Jed
August 30th, 2011
6:08 pm
Canada warns not to buy ‘fresh’ semen online
Donor semen obtained through “questionable means,” it explained, may not have been screened or tested, and therefore may not be safe.
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I just have to ask, what the heck constitutes “questionable means”?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.8c1679d03ff42431ed3c880cf121d5ae.f1&show_article=1
Uncle Jed
August 30th, 2011
6:10 pm
Kamchak
August 30th, 2011
6:02 pm
++++++++++
Thanks for the clarification.
Bosch
August 30th, 2011
6:11 pm
Paul
From what I understand they couldn’t find their way out because of the copious amounts of moonshine they produced and sold.
pogo
August 30th, 2011
6:14 pm
As evidenced here everyday, “sewage” is about the only word one can apply to American politics anymore. Remember, divided we fall. Maybe we should to get some peoples mind right.
Kamchak
August 30th, 2011
6:15 pm
I just have to ask, what the heck constitutes “questionable means”?
Just ask Breitbart.
Or better yet, ask “independent” film-maker, pimp wanna be, and impotent seducer James “Pleasure Palace” O’Keefe.
Paul
August 30th, 2011
6:17 pm
josef
I’m with you on an honest reading. Helps me understand their situations and life better.
Her only point was, she had nothing to do with her circumstances of birth, so why should she get recognition for it?
Me, I can see the celebration of what they did thing. I’d thought about joining the SAR to get access to the genealogy stuff (years ago) but then found out the latter day saint church gives anyone free access to their records. Between that and the War Department records I was doing pretty well.
Paul
August 30th, 2011
6:18 pm
Bosch
Now that’s a reason I can fully understand!
josef
August 30th, 2011
6:19 pm
Got tickled one time when Unmentionable was present for a snob fest with some Mayflower Compact descendents. “My family met the boat….” Another time he was being a bit of the snob himself on the Cherokee thingie…somebody in the group sez, “illegal alien imperialist invader!” Turns out he was Creek!
Doggone/GA
August 30th, 2011
6:19 pm
“because of the copious amounts of moonshine they produced and sold”
If that’s the reason they couldn’t find their way out, are you SURE they SOLD it?
Uncle Jed
August 30th, 2011
6:21 pm
Lift your feet up kids, here come the rolling heads…
ATF Director Reassigned; U.S. Attorney Out Amid ‘Fast and Furious’ Uproar
“While the reckless disregard for safety that took place in Operation Fast and Furious certainly merits changes within the Department of Justice, the Oversight and Government Reform Committee will continue its investigation to ensure that blame isn’t off-loaded on just a few individuals for a matter that involved much higher levels of the Justice Department,” Issa, chairman of the House panel.
“There are still many questions to be answered about what happened in Operation Fast and Furious and who else bears responsibility, but these changes are warranted. … I also remain very concerned by Acting Director Melson’s statement that the Department of Justice is managing its response in a manner intended to protect its political appointees,” Issa continued.
Operation Fast and Furious, a program designed to track illegal gun sales, turned into an embarrassing scandal after weapons linked to it were found at the scene of a U.S. Border Patrol agent’s murder last year. Thousands of guns ended up in the hands of Mexican cartel members.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/30/sources-atf-director-to-be-reassigned-amid-fast-and-furious-uproar/#ixzz1WYMw4jpu
Uncle Jed
August 30th, 2011
6:24 pm
If that’s the reason they couldn’t find their way out, are you SURE they SOLD it?
++++++++++++++++
They must have…see below
Kamchak
August 30th, 2011
6:15 pm
Uncle Jed
August 30th, 2011
6:25 pm
Expecting the painter for an estimate…headed up for a while.
josef
August 30th, 2011
6:28 pm
PAUL
The LDS does do a good job of that and have made them available on-line…
And, I’m with you…knowing “all that” does a great deal to put self in time and place. I always get a bit amused when someone goes to pontificating about how they would have behaved “back then…” and you ask, “well who WERE you back then?” Knowing that genealogy tells you pretty much what you would have done…and it more than likely ain’t as “pure” as you would like…
I’d like to say I wouldn’t have taken part in the despoilation of the Removals…ha! One of them picked up lot 13 in the drawing…now given the shennanigans that went on, a number THAT low…a scoundrel’s scoundrel…
josef
August 30th, 2011
6:29 pm
Uncle Jed
“Expecting the painter for an estimate…headed up for a while”
Hablas espanol?
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
6:36 pm
Uncle Jed, Where on Earth can you give away hundreds of weapons, get our agents killed and then not lose your job?
ATF
ATF
ATF
ATF
What a bunch of Fu**ing bunglers.
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
6:37 pm
It’s damn near impossible to fire a Fed worker.
1811/0311
August 30th, 2011
6:41 pm
Irene was a Republican Hurricane.
Katia is Democrat.
http://hurricane.terrapin.com/ATL-12A/ctrack.html
1811/0311
August 30th, 2011
6:42 pm
poison pen:
……………… and impossible to fire a union one.
Brosephus
August 30th, 2011
6:43 pm
poison pen
Pardon the frankness, but when in the hell is anyone gonna raise hell about the people selling the damned guns?? It takes two to tango. How many of those people were selling cartel weapons before the ATF arrived on scene?
Zap Rowsdower
August 30th, 2011
6:45 pm
Texas is the fastest growing state in the union.
Bye bye, Obama.
kayaker 71
August 30th, 2011
6:46 pm
Nearly 25% of Democrats want a new candidate for president in 2012. Man, is this clown doing down.
Brosephus
August 30th, 2011
6:46 pm
It’s damn near impossible to fire a Fed worker.
Bullsh*t!!!
……………… and impossible to fire a union one.
Double Bullsh*t!!!
If there’s cause for firing, government workers are given the Bobby Cox. Even the union ones get the same treatment. Scout, you of all people should know that. Most anyone accused of wrongdoing gets their chance to face the charges in administrative proceedings. If those proceedings don’t end with the firing of the person, then there probably wasn’t enough damning evidence to fire the person.
Zap Rowsdower
August 30th, 2011
6:46 pm
Anybody seen ole AmVet? I can’t wait for him to call me a flat earther again.
AmVet may not be a scientist but he did stay at a Holiday Inn.
Zap Rowsdower
August 30th, 2011
6:48 pm
“What is criminal is that some of you people apparently graduated from high school.”
And others, such as yourself, did not.
Zap Rowsdower
August 30th, 2011
6:48 pm
“government workers are given the Bobby Cox”
Huh, I had no idea government workers won the world series. Who knew?
josef
August 30th, 2011
6:48 pm
BROSEPHUS
Do Iran-Contra ring a bell?
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
6:50 pm
Brosephus
poison pen
” Pardon the frankness, but when in the hell is anyone gonna raise hell about the people selling the damned guns?? It takes two to tango. How many of those people were selling cartel weapons before the ATF arrived on scene?”
Bro, It was the ATF that sold them. Are you telling me that you forgive them because someone else was doing it?
The grunts that were involved all said it was a terrible decision and the idiot still approved it.
I always thought the ATF was there to protect us, guess I was wrong, I’ll go oil up my gun tonight.
Kamchak
August 30th, 2011
6:52 pm
I’ll go oil up my gun tonight.
Is that what the kids are calling it nowadays?
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
6:54 pm
Brosephus
” It’s damn near impossible to fire a Fed worker.”
Bullsh*t!!!
Bro, Most of the time I agree with you, but my Wife spent 30 years with the DOD, and she can tell you stories that you would find hard to believe, and these employees were never fired.
It’s ok to stick up for your fellow men, but don’t try to sell it to me, because I know better and so do most of the readers on this site.
Brosephus
August 30th, 2011
6:56 pm
Bro, It was the ATF that sold them.
I thought it was the ATF that told the store owners to allow the purchases to proceed, even though the owners felt something was wrong. This story changes by the minute. I guess it will keep changing until everyone in the ATF ends up with cloven hooves and smell of brimstone.
mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the Liar Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!
August 30th, 2011
6:58 pm
The REAL truth is, can NObama stop NObama?
Doggone/GA
August 30th, 2011
6:58 pm
“and she can tell you stories that you would find hard to believe, and these employees were never fired”
so can I. And I’ve never worked for the government.
Tommy Maddox
August 30th, 2011
6:58 pm
“I’ll go oil up my gun tonight.”
Break Free makes some good stuff.
They BOTH suck
August 30th, 2011
6:59 pm
Poison Pen
Guess Fox, you fav blog and pundit by mere oversight forget to mention this……………
“In the 2009 fiscal year, 11,275 federal employees were fired for poor performance or misconduct. In addition, a survey of federal managers by the U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board suggests that besides those who are formally terminated, there are a sizable number of employees who voluntarily leave after they are counseled that their performance is unacceptable. ”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/03/AR2010120306348.html
Retired Fed
August 30th, 2011
7:00 pm
It’s damn near impossible to fire a Fed worker.
Bull hockey. I knew at least five who were fired. It takes an administrative hearing, but if there’s proof of wrong-doing or incompetence, the worker goes bye-bye. And I won’t even mention the shenigans involved in declaring a worker’s job surplus or in writing a federal worker’s job out of a reorganization.
And unionized federal workers? A federal workers’ union has no power—can’t strike, can’t take any action against a federal institution unless there’s a violation of a contract or a federal rule.
Some of you need to do a little reading before you make these idiotic statements. Your prejudice toward government workers is blinding you.
Soothsayer
August 30th, 2011
7:01 pm
8o|
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
7:03 pm
Federal employees’ job security is so great that workers in many agencies are more likely to die of natural causes than get laid off or fired, a USA TODAY analysis finds.
By Alex Brandon, AP
Job security for U.S. government workers tops those in the private sector.
BP’s Work in the Gulf
Death — rather than poor performance, misconduct or layoffs — is the primary threat to job security at the Environmental Protection Agency, the Small Business Administration, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Office of Management and Budget and a dozen other federal operations.
The federal government fired 0.55% of its workers in the budget year that ended Sept. 30 — 11,668 employees in its 2.1 million workforce. Research shows that the private sector fires about 3% of workers annually for poor performance, says John Palguta, former research chief at the federal Merit Systems Protection Board, which handles federal firing disputes.
Turnover minimal at
federal agencies
Federal departments or agencies employing 1,000 or more that had the lowest rates of firing or laying off employees in the year ending Sept. 30, 2010:
Employees
Laid off or fired
Federal Communications Commission
1,832
0
Federal Trade Commission
1,189
0
Nuclear Regulatory Commission
4,211
2
National Labor Relations Board
1,714
1
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
18,671
13
Environmental Protection Agency
18,742
19
U.S. Agency for International Development
3,376
4
Securities and Exchange Commission
3,917
5
Small Business Administration
4,019
6
Department of Housing and Urban Development
10,041
15
Source: Office of Personnel Management
The 1,800-employee Federal Communications Commission and the 1,200-employee Federal Trade Commission didn’t lay off or fire a single employee last year. The SBA had no layoffs, six firings and 17 deaths in its 4,000-employee workforce
Bro, I know a lot of people don’t like facts here, so please disregard the facts.
Kamchak
August 30th, 2011
7:03 pm
Break Free makes some good stuff.
Probably good for sticky brass valves as well.
Maybe if you just wouldn’t swing trumpets in lieu of clubs…..
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
7:04 pm
Retired Fed, Please read the article and then tell me it’s BULL.
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
7:06 pm
Doggone, Now your starting to sound just like, GETALIFE, with your dumb quips.
They BOTH suck
August 30th, 2011
7:06 pm
Poison Pen
Speaking of disregarding facts,…………… Pleas see my last post
Thanks
Zap Rowsdower
August 30th, 2011
7:07 pm
“Do Iran-Contra ring a bell?”
The only people who bring up that non-scandal are people who still believe that Halliburton was the cause of the Iraq War.
Doggone/GA
August 30th, 2011
7:07 pm
“Some of you need to do a little reading before you make these idiotic statements”
I think the problem is that they DO a LITTLE reading.
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
7:07 pm
They both suck, Read the full article and try not to take it out of context.
They BOTH suck
August 30th, 2011
7:09 pm
The federal work force is bigger than ever.
Not including the U.S. Postal Service, the federal government employs 2.1 million people. The work force is now slightly smaller than it was in 1967, at the height of Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society, and today there are 100 million more Americans to serve.
Even during the Reagan administration, when small government was a political mantra, there were still between 2.1 and 2.2 million federal workers. In fact, there was an increase of about 95,000 federal employees between 1981 and 1989.
Read more: In defense of the federal worker – Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/guests/s_713206.html#ixzz1WYZcDivi
poison pen
August 30th, 2011
7:09 pm
Have a good evening everyone.
out of the blue
August 30th, 2011
7:09 pm
“” It’s damn near impossible to fire a Fed worker.”
As it is with most companies…But, as one who worked for the DOI for years I can attest it’s not impossible.
How do I know that because I fired two!